I am torn between the Bronson (teal color) and the Remedy. Anyways, all of them look awesome. Thanks for the videos Pinkbike. Been loving this field tests.
I think I'm probably getting an SB150 next year, even though I think it looks ugly as hell. Honestly if the Transition Sentinel had 150mm rear instead of 140 I'd be getting that 100% but I already have a "trail" bike and I need something I can lap Creek with every once in a while
Pinkbike I have a stumpy and I have mine super dialed. I’ve rode all of the other bikes tested except for the yeti and I can’t say I liked any of them more than my stumpjumper.
I want to see a huge direct sales showdown. Commencal, YT Canyon and Vitus. Would be nice to see a big group test with bikes that the average Joe is more likely to buy.
My buddy has the 650 version, his second after the first was stolen (RIP, Meaty). It's a fucking weapon. I imagine the 29 being in the same vein of absolute savagery. I live in Santa Cruz, so it's definitely been pushed to the extremes. Totally capable up and down. Good luck snagging one.
I got myself a Bronson but put a 170 fox factory 36 up front. Love that bike! Riding a lot of steep downhill and techy roots and rocks with it - handles it like a boss. Couldn't be happier with it
Just picked up a Process 153 DL 29 (partially based on this vid) and it is SICK. Playful as hell as Mike noted. Thanks for the great content guys, super helpful!
I bought a remedy and I can't be happier. I was affraid if the bike can handle climbing, turn out It's climb really well and the position is really confortable. I can really anjoy going down and can go on more difficult trail, the bike can take everything it's suprising.
Wild Outdoor Living Quick question about ur suspension. I have the 2018 remedy 9.8 have u been able to set up ur fork to use the full travel? my lyrik seems like i cant get the full travel w/out going over 38-40% sag... or does it just ride high? thnx man.
@@kinnectedmtb3209 did you figure it out? I have a 2019. Just go lower PSI, my LBS mechanic told me so, that the design will allow you to go lower psi without feeling too planted to the ground, we took out 10 psi from recommended when trail riding, and when doing big jumps or a lot of "park" stuff, went 10 up to avoid a lot of harsh bottom out.
Check the volume reducers you have. If you can't use full travel even with lower PSI you need to reduce the volume. It'll allow you to not ramp up the last part of the travel and run a more normal pressure and sag.
Living in Boone, do y’all do rides around here? I know about Rocky Knob, but I’m more of a “off the beaten path” guy. There’s gotta be some awesome rides around here
Just as each bike has different geometry, components and setup that effect performance, each rider has different geometry, skills, preferences, strength, riding styles and rides different terrain. Each rider should therefore choose which bike is right for him or her. I rode some of these bikes and prefer my SC Tallboy which is totally different.
I like that fact you actually say what you don't like. I hate when reviewers never say anything bad about a bike. Its not realistic. Thanks for the "honest" review. Keep up the good work.
I have remedy the 8 and it has truly exceeded my expectations it is just so capable because I was a bit worried about the geometry however this is not an issue and it’s just perfect
My buddy just rented a 2019 Stumpjumper @ Mammoth the first day we rode and a 2019 Trek Slash 8 the second day. He was totally gungho on SJ's up to that trip and the minute we started riding day two, he wouldn't shut up about how much more he loved the Trek. He loved the build, the head angle, the 29in wheels, and the general overall feel. He loved how much further back he felt on the bike. Climbing he loved both because they both came with 10-50 Cassettes if I am not mistaken. I loved this video though. Thank you for the comparison. That Yeti Turq is gorgeous.
I think the sb150 is almost out of place in this list and maybe should have been the the next category up but I understand that you have to draw the line somewhere. Also it's a shame you didn't have the Stumpy Evo for this test, it's much more in line with the bikes you liked than the standard version, which is really a bit disappointing and not much of a step forward over the previous version IMO.
i have been riding a specialized stumpjumper since 2010 and i just days ago bought myself a new one, a remedy. i love the feeling of it and how playful it is. and i also love the styling of it. it looks agressive af by having such girth in the tubing and it fits where i ride like a glove (northern sweden) alot of places where i really want to have that deep travel bike and the stiffness of the frame makes the bike so much more confidence inspiring. and it being good at climbing is a big plus to where i live. i don't have any lifts going up the hills so a bike that is just as competent up hill as going down is what i need. amazing bike and i'm shure i will be riding this one for long to come
How does the cock pit feel to you compared to the other bikes you have ridden. I jumped on one today and it felt a bit cramped. Maybe I am just used to the Extra room of the trance?
@@unSTEVOED I got a Remedy recently as well. Coming off a Giant Reign it did feel cramped when i first jumped on. I think it is due to the steeper seat post angle (climbs much better than the Reign). When I'm going down hill (seat down) its feels great.
Very cool tests! Looking at the trails, the Evil Wreckoning/ Insurgent would have been interesting too. Among these bikes I think I d go with the Kona. Good work guys!
You need to do a couple more of these tests with Pivot, Transition, Rocky Mountain, Evil, GG etc. I won't buy from the big three anymore to help the smaller brands keep rollin'
I swear, I've wanted almost every bike in this test at some point. Was really into the Kona Process at one point, but now really feeling the Remedy. Bah!!
so you want to know which one is my favorite? i think the remedy is the best one of these bikes. aaaand, i bought one and think it is the best bike i have ever riden!
Really been loving these videos guys, great reviews overall. Currently building my own trail/enduro hardtail frame and documenting it, so this is giving me some much needed inspiration to keep going!
Really like your review style but I kinda feel like it was too short and a number of choices were glossed over or just not included. I guess I came away from it thinking you all liked Yeti but weren't sure all about it yet, and the Specialized lost. Oh, and I think the Kona was somewhere in the middle...?
"That is the dirt that's why we are here."That is the most profound statement I've ever heard in my entire life about the sport that I've been involved in for the last 30 years
Insofar this is the best format for mtb reviews. Longtime wait. Keep them coming and I hope pinkbike squeezes a bigger budget for these guys. It is TH-cam afterall...you can make it as long as you like.
@@FLY1NF1SH how about it! I'm in Eastern PA and forget rock gardens, we've got rock trails...100 yards at a clip. There's steeps, rocks, roots, chutes, and meandering stuff from time to time.
Please tell me you're reviewing the Nukeproof Mega carbon 2019!!!!! Under £5000 with fantastic spec plus it's the bike of the enduro world champion, test and I GUARANTEE you will LOVE IT!
It’s a bit disappointing to hear that you didn’t like the Stumpjumper as that’s the one I bought back in late 2018 :/. I love it but I was also eyeing up the remedy at the time. I hope I didn’t make the wrong choice. I’d say I ride 50% singletrack and 50% light downhill. Did you have any positive thoughts about the Stumpy or you just thought the other bikes were leagues ahead in every way?
What do you think of the new category or bikes; 32” super enduro? 32” to roll over obstacles better, and super enduro just because. I’ve heard next year they are coming out with 32” e-bikes with electronic brakes.
remedy is an underated bike, but trek also makes a 29r slash that is amazing, if you must have the 29. I hear nothing but great thigs about they yeti. santa cruz seems to be over rated considering the price but i dont know,
so you're telling me that the $10k bike was rated the lowest followed by the brand that most people scoff at the pricing on and the bike that surprised you the most is likened to the kid that is always just there and doesn't really do much to set himself apart? Blows me away. Of course I'm talking about Specialized S-Works Stumpie, SC Bronson, and Trek Remedy. I would have liked to see more of you guys riding along with your analysis but great video
"I didn't like the Stumpjumper but I think a lot of people will"... why do you think a lot of people will like it when you didn't? Is there something about the bike that you think fits a certain style of rider or terrain?
@@src248 So can you help a newbie out? I did a demo of the stumpjumper and really liked it, which I guess means I don't know better! What bike do you recommend as a better value?
@@themannymouse It was more just a joke on the $9500 price of the model they tested, of course you don't have to get the top end version. On the review video they had problems with the suspension being too active while climbing for their taste and the high stack/short reach. So if you prefer traction over efficiency while climbing and you feel it fits you well it would be a good choice
@@src248 Thanks, man. It's funny I didn't even hear the price. I guess I ignore that info because I know I'm never gonna buy the brand-new high-end version of anything.
Wish Kona would make a Process w/ 27.5 wheels and ~120 travel in carbon. My 111 is almost too stable, but still easy enough to throw around. If they could just drop a little weight and shorten the stays just a bit more it would be perfect.
If you're dropping $3k+ on a bike I would skip over trek, specialized AND Santa Cruz for that matter. Yeti, Pivot, and Ibis are all you really need to consider.
I'm considering buy a specialized enduro 27.5 Coil do you think Is a bad idea? It's price Is 8000 so what do you think? Sorry for my bad english but I'm spanish
I agree that the SJ is a little bit on the conservative side for geo. Luckily they have the EVO and it's going carbon next year. It will outgun the Enduro for sure. I predict a new Enduro for 2020.
It wasn't even about being 'conservative' for me (as you can shred ANY of these bikes) - the SJ just feels cramped. It felt solid, but like riding on-top and over the front end, whereas the Trek Fuel & Remedy I tested felt way more dialed-in and balanced for the size. I think Trek's new bikes are super underrated, and would win many reviews if they eliminated the KB. The Slash is just an absolute Beast.
hummer694life I have the 27.5 version and I usually ride a medium, but I got a large and it’s about perfect just a little long but that’s how I like it. When you get those things set up good they can plow and smash through stuff and they jump really well
That was exactly what I thought when I first saw/read about the EVO. Or even worse, discontinue to Enduro. Sure enough, a brand new totally redesigned Enduro for 2020. My new prediction; next mid cycle refresh may dump the conservative geometry of the Stumpy and go with EVO geo across the line. The current regular stumpy geo trickles down to the new “Camber”.
Felt like that could have been at least 30mjns in footage in that. Maybe not that long but you get what I mean, was very interesting and then it finished.
Some of the complaints these guys have about the bikes are just a matter of setup. Yeah if the bike feels low in it's suspension, try volume spacers or higher shock PSI.... If the front end wanders, try dropping the stem.... If it feels too long, try a smaller size/adjust seat position. I've had my mountain bike for almost 2 months and I'm still moving headset spacers, changing shock pressure, etc. Bike keeps feeling better & better with each adjustment.
Really nice comparison. Hearing about the riding tastes/trails of the three of you helps me understand which bike would be best for me. The surprises for me were the Kona, whose bikes have felt sort of leaden to me in the past, and the Remedy. But for this class I would really need to see you test the Orbea Rallon, Evil Offering, and Yeti SB130. All are up to date, and the last seems like it would better a better fit in this review group than the 150. Any chance these will be coming? Hoping Pinkbike can get over its apparent Evil shunning.
Personally I have a stumpy as my trail bike and I blow through its travel like nothing it is a nice bike and all but the geometry doesn’t keep up with a lot of bikes I personally love how it handles but the travel is where it’s a letdown
The remedy and the Bronson where on my short list. Went for the Bronson in the end. Strange you didn't talk about the rear end flex in the yeti? The specialized looks dated. The kona looks sick and if where to buy a 29r it's defo be one to consider
MrSupermugen I’m checking back in one year later and it’s so cheap I’m getting a Nomad. I used it for DH and enduro things and I destroyed it. Frame bearings are shredded and destroyed.
When is someone going to run a test with the bikes completely anonymized?! The riders said numerous times that, “I’m pretty biased.” Title should read, “A Completely Biased Field Test.”
I mean at the end of the day it doesn't matter if they are biased. They like what they like. And even if I agree that finding a way to anonomyize it would be a theoretical improvement, it's impractical to say the least. Using these as starting points is a better idea anyway. Spend a couple days demoing bikes and figure out what you like
What is with all that wheel flex on the Kona at :48 and the Stumpy at :42? Seems the Bronson has none, is this because of a weak top tube? Seems scary. Anyway, comparing 27.5's to 29ers, not a real great comparison really. Why not compare the Hightower LT to the SB150 instead of the Bronson? That would be better.
in my opinion, the stuntjumper looks the best, the the yeti and remedy are tied and the other two are just meh. i dont like how chunky the other two look. i know im a year late but i wanted my visuals opinion out there.
Willem Moseley I used to think the same thing but I have friends who work at trek retailers and the reality is that they treat employees and local shops really well. I've always been impressed with their engineering and designs also
@@sethmountainbikes8795 surely your mistaking that comment for s-works or norco for sure. people have had issues with thier enduro frames something wicked.
Idk whats going on with some of the 29ers. A lot of flex in the head tube/fork. Thats super weird. The sc and the yet had very little. You can see that flex sends shock waves through the riders body when the camera is slowed down. But ya that was super weird. Im 6f2 and 29ers scrape my sak. So im out on all the 29ers.
I really like your guys’ vids- Even when you are totally wrong- Bronson all the way baby!! Lol. Keep ‘em coming. You could add more riding footage though- you know- porn for mountain bikers. Cause if I ain’t riding I wanna watch it.
@Pinkbike: If you would have included a Pivot Mach 5.5 in this test, how do you think it would have done? Would it have been your overall top choice? Please let me know your expert opinion of it compared to these bikes. And if anyone else reading this has extensive experience with the Mach 5.5, please let me know how you think it stacks up against the Trek, Kona, etc. Thanks.
Its a shame that with these videos you can't really trust them because of all the politics. Thee is no doubt these channels get kick backs from companies, it has been happening in all industries for years. They barely talked about the Stumpy and this is the first 'bad' review I have seen on it. I think people focus on trends to much, if something isn't longer and slacker than last year its deemed not progressive, this does't equate to a better bike. I enjoyed the video, I liked the way you brought up about where people ride and what bike might suit better just take these videos with a pinch of salt as I don't believe they ae as transparent as they would like you to believe.
Did you not watch the standalone video? It wasn't a bad review at all.... and what makes you think you can truest all those other reviews then? Wouldn't you think a review with more negatives to be the more accurate review?
Yes I did. I shouldn't have used the word 'bad review' but not favourable anyway thats not the point. I don't think all those other reviews are trust worthy either after all it is someones opinion. All I was getting at is that big companies often have allegiance to certain brands therefore biased. A lot of kids would watch these videos and may not know that. this is why i don't usually comment on videos because someone usually jumps down your throat for doing so. @@src248
We don't have any alliances to brands. We got these bikes built up on day 1 of the Field Test and had never ridden them before. Did a few weeks of riding and then filmed our opinions, with no kick back or input from brands. These are our honest opinions.
Pinkbike fair enough, all I was getting at is that some do and are not transparent. I think when people know there is no affiliation the reviews hold more weight.Your videos are really good. Thanks
splitting hairs, there isn't one bike made today in this price range that aren't exactly alike when you ride them. bike weight is irrelevant when your weight and strength is a bigger issue. all the rest is you, tire pressure, tire tread, tire size and bike size. looks and brands are a preference
What was your favourite? Let us know!
I am torn between the Bronson (teal color) and the Remedy. Anyways, all of them look awesome. Thanks for the videos Pinkbike. Been loving this field tests.
I think I'm probably getting an SB150 next year, even though I think it looks ugly as hell. Honestly if the Transition Sentinel had 150mm rear instead of 140 I'd be getting that 100% but I already have a "trail" bike and I need something I can lap Creek with every once in a while
Pinkbike I have a stumpy and I have mine super dialed. I’ve rode all of the other bikes tested except for the yeti and I can’t say I liked any of them more than my stumpjumper.
Bronson but if I had to go on and enduro race like Finale Ligure Id go whit Nomad Which is Bronson +++
Really hope this isn't the end! Vids have been sooo good!
It hurts how much better this is than Bible of Bike Tests.
I did think their summer camp series this year were good
B.o.b.T. dudes are too persnikity about there set ups.
Bible of bike tests is possibly the most boring most arrogant bike section on TH-cam.
They still sound like complete tools though
I want to see a huge direct sales showdown. Commencal, YT Canyon and Vitus. Would be nice to see a big group test with bikes that the average Joe is more likely to buy.
This series was very enjoyable though I hope you do more like it.
This^^
Julius Steezer they would but yt is out of stock. Always.
Vitus isn't big enough in the states. Probably throw in Fezzari.
Throw in a Fezzari La Sal Peak, and that would be a sweet video!!
I wouldn't complain with any of those bikes.
A bikes only as good as its rider.
Having said that, that Kona will probably be my first 29er.
My buddy has the 650 version, his second after the first was stolen (RIP, Meaty). It's a fucking weapon. I imagine the 29 being in the same vein of absolute savagery. I live in Santa Cruz, so it's definitely been pushed to the extremes. Totally capable up and down. Good luck snagging one.
I have the 27.5 version it's a fkn beast
Same here, best bike decision I've made!
@@levinsonl process all the way dudes!
@@ladicius YAAA boi, gotta hit mailboxes on that
I got myself a Bronson but put a 170 fox factory 36 up front. Love that bike! Riding a lot of steep downhill and techy roots and rocks with it - handles it like a boss. Couldn't be happier with it
Just picked up a Process 153 DL 29 (partially based on this vid) and it is SICK. Playful as hell as Mike noted. Thanks for the great content guys, super helpful!
Aluminum or carbon? I'm thinking of getting the aluminum one.
Have the Remedy, wouldnt change it for a thing. It is a weapon.
euanme3 same
I bought a remedy and I can't be happier. I was affraid if the bike can handle climbing, turn out It's climb really well and the position is really confortable. I can really anjoy going down and can go on more difficult trail, the bike can take everything it's suprising.
I am LOVING my Remedy. This review was a big part of that purchase. Great job!
Wild Outdoor Living Quick question about ur suspension. I have the 2018 remedy 9.8
have u been able to set up ur fork to use the full travel? my lyrik seems like i cant get the full travel w/out going over 38-40% sag... or does it just ride high? thnx man.
@@kinnectedmtb3209 did you figure it out? I have a 2019. Just go lower PSI, my LBS mechanic told me so, that the design will allow you to go lower psi without feeling too planted to the ground, we took out 10 psi from recommended when trail riding, and when doing big jumps or a lot of "park" stuff, went 10 up to avoid a lot of harsh bottom out.
Check the volume reducers you have. If you can't use full travel even with lower PSI you need to reduce the volume. It'll allow you to not ramp up the last part of the travel and run a more normal pressure and sag.
Question: “Where in North Carolina do you need a Yeti SB150?!”
Answer: Pisgah National Forest Brevard, NC
Maybe even Dupont too!
I know... bout sh*t my pants laughing when Mike asked that question.
Living in Boone, do y’all do rides around here? I know about Rocky Knob, but I’m more of a “off the beaten path” guy. There’s gotta be some awesome rides around here
And the oft overlooked Wilson Creek trails. You can catch some videos of Skills with Phil tackling them. WNC has plenty of gnarly downhills!
Just as each bike has different geometry, components and setup that effect performance, each rider has different geometry, skills, preferences, strength, riding styles and rides different terrain. Each rider should therefore choose which bike is right for him or her. I rode some of these bikes and prefer my SC Tallboy which is totally different.
I like that fact you actually say what you don't like. I hate when reviewers never say anything bad about a bike. Its not realistic. Thanks for the "honest" review. Keep up the good work.
The Remedy/ the SB 150 seems like the overall winners tho!
Just a Mountainbiker remedy for the win!
I could only afford a cheap Huffy bike about 6 years ago and that's still my favorite. I need a new one.
I have remedy the 8 and it has truly exceeded my expectations it is just so capable because I was a bit worried about the geometry however this is not an issue and it’s just perfect
Trail Trialer MTB how tall are you? And what size did you go for?
My buddy just rented a 2019 Stumpjumper @ Mammoth the first day we rode and a 2019 Trek Slash 8 the second day. He was totally gungho on SJ's up to that trip and the minute we started riding day two, he wouldn't shut up about how much more he loved the Trek. He loved the build, the head angle, the 29in wheels, and the general overall feel. He loved how much further back he felt on the bike. Climbing he loved both because they both came with 10-50 Cassettes if I am not mistaken. I loved this video though. Thank you for the comparison. That Yeti Turq is gorgeous.
I think the sb150 is almost out of place in this list and maybe should have been the the next category up but I understand that you have to draw the line somewhere. Also it's a shame you didn't have the Stumpy Evo for this test, it's much more in line with the bikes you liked than the standard version, which is really a bit disappointing and not much of a step forward over the previous version IMO.
Agreed...the SB is an out and out enduro bike - not at all what would be considered 'trail-esque' or 'light enduro' whatsoever!
The sb 130 would've fit into that mix a little more evenly for sure
i have been riding a specialized stumpjumper since 2010 and i just days ago bought myself a new one, a remedy. i love the feeling of it and how playful it is. and i also love the styling of it. it looks agressive af by having such girth in the tubing and it fits where i ride like a glove (northern sweden) alot of places where i really want to have that deep travel bike and the stiffness of the frame makes the bike so much more confidence inspiring. and it being good at climbing is a big plus to where i live. i don't have any lifts going up the hills so a bike that is just as competent up hill as going down is what i need.
amazing bike and i'm shure i will be riding this one for long to come
I’ve got the remedy , due to a really good deal I got here in Australia, it’s exceeded my expectations, better bike than I was expecting, very happy
How does the cock pit feel to you compared to the other bikes you have ridden. I jumped on one today and it felt a bit cramped. Maybe I am just used to the Extra room of the trance?
@@unSTEVOED I got a Remedy recently as well. Coming off a Giant Reign it did feel cramped when i first jumped on. I think it is due to the steeper seat post angle (climbs much better than the Reign). When I'm going down hill (seat down) its feels great.
Although not the exact same Kona, I just got a Process 134 and it really is playful and easy to flick around.✊Lots of fun fo sho
Very cool tests! Looking at the trails, the Evil Wreckoning/ Insurgent would have been interesting too. Among these bikes I think I d go with the Kona. Good work guys!
something about the skid on the road marking in the intro is sooooo satisfying
You need to do a couple more of these tests with Pivot, Transition, Rocky Mountain, Evil, GG etc. I won't buy from the big three anymore to help the smaller brands keep rollin'
I swear, I've wanted almost every bike in this test at some point. Was really into the Kona Process at one point, but now really feeling the Remedy. Bah!!
so you want to know which one is my favorite?
i think the remedy is the best one of these bikes.
aaaand, i bought one and think it is the best bike i have ever riden!
I've been ridin the 2017 remedy rsl 4a yr now an it's a beast evrywhere! I'd love a go of the new model👌
You guys should come up with an app for recommending bikes by area/ country/terrain👊
Really been loving these videos guys, great reviews overall. Currently building my own trail/enduro hardtail frame and documenting it, so this is giving me some much needed inspiration to keep going!
I personally loved the Stumpjumper colour here.
Really like your review style but I kinda feel like it was too short and a number of choices were glossed over or just not included. I guess I came away from it thinking you all liked Yeti but weren't sure all about it yet, and the Specialized lost. Oh, and I think the Kona was somewhere in the middle...?
I live in Australia, and literally 85% of the trail/enduro bikes I see are stumpjumpers or other models of specialised bikes
Yes! How boring!
"That is the dirt that's why we are here."That is the most profound statement I've ever heard in my entire life about the sport that I've been involved in for the last 30 years
Bronson Rocks! New suspension design gets rid of the midstroke wallow with the old VPP design. Traction in corners for dayz!
Insofar this is the best format for mtb reviews. Longtime wait. Keep them coming and I hope pinkbike squeezes a bigger budget for these guys. It is TH-cam afterall...you can make it as long as you like.
Good to hear you're enjoying the series 👍
Loving the test so far. Good to see this head to head too
The teal color struck me, I have to have this color! So beautiful, so pleasing!
I'm really surprised buddy from the east coast picked the SB150. I think that says alot
We don't have mountains as big but what we do have is ROCKS lol
not really, pisgah is big country sir. really high speed on alot of trails, steep in places, and burly.
@@FLY1NF1SH how about it! I'm in Eastern PA and forget rock gardens, we've got rock trails...100 yards at a clip. There's steeps, rocks, roots, chutes, and meandering stuff from time to time.
@@TFritz82 I also ride eastern PA, albeit on a hardtail, but that's until i can fork out 3 grand for a proper enduro bike :P
@@lacrosse4higher yep, I'm on a 130mm hardtail as well! Certainly makes things interesting!
I think it is great that PB has been working on these tests. Tested on BC terrain even better.
Please tell me you're reviewing the Nukeproof Mega carbon 2019!!!!! Under £5000 with fantastic spec plus it's the bike of the enduro world champion, test and I GUARANTEE you will LOVE IT!
It’s a bit disappointing to hear that you didn’t like the Stumpjumper as that’s the one I bought back in late 2018 :/. I love it but I was also eyeing up the remedy at the time. I hope I didn’t make the wrong choice. I’d say I ride 50% singletrack and 50% light downhill. Did you have any positive thoughts about the Stumpy or you just thought the other bikes were leagues ahead in every way?
What do you think of the new category or bikes; 32” super enduro? 32” to roll over obstacles better, and super enduro just because. I’ve heard next year they are coming out with 32” e-bikes with electronic brakes.
Ive got the remedy 8 and its more bike than I can handle, not a big fan of the bontrager xr4 tyres though, although thats an easy fix.
remedy is an underated bike, but trek also makes a 29r slash that is amazing, if you must have the 29. I hear nothing but great thigs about they yeti. santa cruz seems to be over rated considering the price but i dont know,
I'm confused as to why the sb150 is in this test? Shouldn't it compare to the S-Works enduro 29?
Good reviews. I like how the "effort" was discussed.
I’d go the Kona.
Norco Sight vs Giant Reign vs Trek Remedy vs Scott Genius vs Specialized Stumpjumper
so you're telling me that the $10k bike was rated the lowest followed by the brand that most people scoff at the pricing on and the bike that surprised you the most is likened to the kid that is always just there and doesn't really do much to set himself apart? Blows me away. Of course I'm talking about Specialized S-Works Stumpie, SC Bronson, and Trek Remedy. I would have liked to see more of you guys riding along with your analysis but great video
Is the Trek Remedy you guys tested in this video a 2018 or 2019 and if it is a Carbon or Aluminum? Thanks and great content! 😊
It's a the 2019 carbon version. Thanks for watching!
Do you think the aluminum version would be as good as the carbon? Thanks for answering back! God speed! 😊
Damn now I gotta get a rememedy
Bananabug 4 Nice
I got to demo the remedy and the Bronson. I went with the Bronson and I'm happy with it.
I am between the stump Jumper and the Bronson which I recommend in its range of entry.
"I didn't like the Stumpjumper but I think a lot of people will"... why do you think a lot of people will like it when you didn't? Is there something about the bike that you think fits a certain style of rider or terrain?
At that price, they mean "dentists who don't know better will love it"
@@src248 So can you help a newbie out? I did a demo of the stumpjumper and really liked it, which I guess means I don't know better! What bike do you recommend as a better value?
@@themannymouse It was more just a joke on the $9500 price of the model they tested, of course you don't have to get the top end version. On the review video they had problems with the suspension being too active while climbing for their taste and the high stack/short reach. So if you prefer traction over efficiency while climbing and you feel it fits you well it would be a good choice
@@src248 Thanks, man. It's funny I didn't even hear the price. I guess I ignore that info because I know I'm never gonna buy the brand-new high-end version of anything.
The stumperjumper is really nice, I have one.
I would have loved it if this was a longer video that dissected the bikes a little more. But great video!
my left ear loved the first bit
Any chance on a video review for the stumpy Evo? Love the videos!
Wish Kona would make a Process w/ 27.5 wheels and ~120 travel in carbon. My 111 is almost too stable, but still easy enough to throw around. If they could just drop a little weight and shorten the stays just a bit more it would be perfect.
Hi what helmet is the red and black one you guys are wearing? Trying to figure out what it is looks like good balance of protection and style :)
This video just change my mind about about buying the giant trance, i'll buy the remedy instead
Can you do test with bikes 130mm to 140mm , Canyon Spectral, SB130, SC 5010, Trek fuel, etc etc etc
Throw a giant trance 29 into the mix also
If you're dropping $3k+ on a bike I would skip over trek, specialized AND Santa Cruz for that matter. Yeti, Pivot, and Ibis are all you really need to consider.
I'm considering buy a specialized enduro 27.5 Coil do you think Is a bad idea? It's price Is 8000 so what do you think?
Sorry for my bad english but I'm spanish
I agree that the SJ is a little bit on the conservative side for geo. Luckily they have the EVO and it's going carbon next year. It will outgun the Enduro for sure. I predict a new Enduro for 2020.
It wasn't even about being 'conservative' for me (as you can shred ANY of these bikes) - the SJ just feels cramped. It felt solid, but like riding on-top and over the front end, whereas the Trek Fuel & Remedy I tested felt way more dialed-in and balanced for the size. I think Trek's new bikes are super underrated, and would win many reviews if they eliminated the KB. The Slash is just an absolute Beast.
hummer694life I have the 27.5 version and I usually ride a medium, but I got a large and it’s about perfect just a little long but that’s how I like it. When you get those things set up good they can plow and smash through stuff and they jump really well
That was exactly what I thought when I first saw/read about the EVO. Or even worse, discontinue to Enduro. Sure enough, a brand new totally redesigned Enduro for 2020. My new prediction; next mid cycle refresh may dump the conservative geometry of the Stumpy and go with EVO geo across the line. The current regular stumpy geo trickles down to the new “Camber”.
Please do a dh bikes test(trek, commencal, etc)
Love this series and look forward to more!
Felt like that could have been at least 30mjns in footage in that. Maybe not that long but you get what I mean, was very interesting and then it finished.
Some of the complaints these guys have about the bikes are just a matter of setup. Yeah if the bike feels low in it's suspension, try volume spacers or higher shock PSI.... If the front end wanders, try dropping the stem.... If it feels too long, try a smaller size/adjust seat position. I've had my mountain bike for almost 2 months and I'm still moving headset spacers, changing shock pressure, etc. Bike keeps feeling better & better with each adjustment.
Do your saying these guys have no clue how to setup a bike lol.
Love all your vids!!!🤟
Really nice comparison. Hearing about the riding tastes/trails of the three of you helps me understand which bike would be best for me. The surprises for me were the Kona, whose bikes have felt sort of leaden to me in the past, and the Remedy. But for this class I would really need to see you test the Orbea Rallon, Evil Offering, and Yeti SB130. All are up to date, and the last seems like it would better a better fit in this review group than the 150. Any chance these will be coming? Hoping Pinkbike can get over its apparent Evil shunning.
Rallon is no where near this class, it's a full on race bike (and they did do a review on it already on their website, if I recall)
Personally I have a stumpy as my trail bike and I blow through its travel like nothing it is a nice bike and all but the geometry doesn’t keep up with a lot of bikes I personally love how it handles but the travel is where it’s a letdown
The remedy and the Bronson where on my short list. Went for the Bronson in the end.
Strange you didn't talk about the rear end flex in the yeti?
The specialized looks dated. The kona looks sick and if where to buy a 29r it's defo be one to consider
Nick, how tall are you and which size frame did you choose? I'm coming from a V2 and its crash replacement time.
My favorite MTB for a ride is S-WORKS Stumperjumper and Trek Bronson cuz i'm comfortable when i ride it on.
Good job guys!
So looks like the point is to see which bike can fling the most dirt.
How good is your videos I can see what it is like to have a bike like that because I can't afford one of those
What do you do with all the bikes after your done testing them
Tbh Imma go with either the Bronson or the Remedy
I went Bronson.
Go Remedy.
The stump jumper evo would have been more comparable to those other 2 bikes
Love these reviews; more like this please!
Not a bad list. I'll stick with my Knolly Endorphin tho.
Why don't you include Nukeproof mega or Giga 2021?
Maybe I missed it, but you neglected to mention prices.
Wish this was longer
My left ear enjoyed the intro
The stumpjumper is the best!!
vic lagina420 no it isn’t better stumpjumper is the best
really send that Pos then check that frame ;)
MrSupermugen I’m checking back in one year later and it’s so cheap I’m getting a Nomad. I used it for DH and enduro things and I destroyed it. Frame bearings are shredded and destroyed.
vic lagina420 you are 100% right it’s been a year and my stumpjumper is so crappy and cheap
When is someone going to run a test with the bikes completely anonymized?! The riders said numerous times that, “I’m pretty biased.” Title should read, “A Completely Biased Field Test.”
I mean at the end of the day it doesn't matter if they are biased. They like what they like. And even if I agree that finding a way to anonomyize it would be a theoretical improvement, it's impractical to say the least. Using these as starting points is a better idea anyway. Spend a couple days demoing bikes and figure out what you like
What is with all that wheel flex on the Kona at :48 and the Stumpy at :42? Seems the Bronson has none, is this because of a weak top tube? Seems scary. Anyway, comparing 27.5's to 29ers, not a real great comparison really. Why not compare the Hightower LT to the SB150 instead of the Bronson? That would be better.
in my opinion, the stuntjumper looks the best, the the yeti and remedy are tied and the other two are just meh. i dont like how chunky the other two look. i know im a year late but i wanted my visuals opinion out there.
As much as I hate Big bike companies, that Trek does something for me.
Willem Moseley I used to think the same thing but I have friends who work at trek retailers and the reality is that they treat employees and local shops really well. I've always been impressed with their engineering and designs also
Trek has the weakest frames
@@sethmountainbikes8795 surely your mistaking that comment for s-works or norco for sure. people have had issues with thier enduro frames something wicked.
Idk whats going on with some of the 29ers. A lot of flex in the head tube/fork. Thats super weird. The sc and the yet had very little. You can see that flex sends shock waves through the riders body when the camera is slowed down. But ya that was super weird. Im 6f2 and 29ers scrape my sak. So im out on all the 29ers.
mjs1231 “scrape my sak” lmao. Im not a fan of 29ers in this category either. Love my new Bronson.
Stumpy allll daaaaasy ! For the price none can touch it .. expert 5500 with carbon wheels and swat and tools included and the lightest ... 🤔🥴🤯
*stumpjumper the best!*
Can anyone pls tell a site where we can buy b’twin 540s frame
I think as far as yeti goes, sb140 would have made way more sense for this comparison
I really like your guys’ vids- Even when you are totally wrong- Bronson all the way baby!! Lol. Keep ‘em coming. You could add more riding footage though- you know- porn for mountain bikers. Cause if I ain’t riding I wanna watch it.
Not bad bikes.... but the YT Capra 29er is not leaving my garage
Whoa, Leavy has no idea what WNC trails are like I see.
@Pinkbike: If you would have included a Pivot Mach 5.5 in this test, how do you think it would have done? Would it have been your overall top choice? Please let me know your expert opinion of it compared to these bikes. And if anyone else reading this has extensive experience with the Mach 5.5, please let me know how you think it stacks up against the Trek, Kona, etc. Thanks.
I need to know that also :D
Its a shame that with these videos you can't really trust them because of all the politics. Thee is no doubt these channels get kick backs from companies, it has been happening in all industries for years. They barely talked about the Stumpy and this is the first 'bad' review I have seen on it. I think people focus on trends to much, if something isn't longer and slacker than last year its deemed not progressive, this does't equate to a better bike. I enjoyed the video, I liked the way you brought up about where people ride and what bike might suit better just take these videos with a pinch of salt as I don't believe they ae as transparent as they would like you to believe.
Did you not watch the standalone video? It wasn't a bad review at all.... and what makes you think you can truest all those other reviews then? Wouldn't you think a review with more negatives to be the more accurate review?
Yes I did. I shouldn't have used the word 'bad review' but not favourable anyway thats not the point. I don't think all those other reviews are trust worthy either after all it is someones opinion. All I was getting at is that big companies often have allegiance to certain brands therefore biased. A lot of kids would watch these videos and may not know that. this is why i don't usually comment on videos because someone usually jumps down your throat for doing so. @@src248
We don't have any alliances to brands. We got these bikes built up on day 1 of the Field Test and had never ridden them before. Did a few weeks of riding and then filmed our opinions, with no kick back or input from brands. These are our honest opinions.
Pinkbike fair enough, all I was getting at is that some do and are not transparent. I think when people know there is no affiliation the reviews hold more weight.Your videos are really good. Thanks
Yeti SB 150 is light enduro?! It exceeds the Scott Ransom which has 175mm on the rear (in terms of suspension performance).
splitting hairs, there isn't one bike made today in this price range that aren't exactly alike when you ride them. bike weight is irrelevant when your weight and strength is a bigger issue. all the rest is you, tire pressure, tire tread, tire size and bike size. looks and brands are a preference