"she"s written" LOL yeah right..stop kidding..the principle of a demo song is to propose a song to an artist..if she had written it, she wouldn't need demo
unpopular dolls don't read replies what?? she did write the song... and the purpose of a demo is to give the artist who its sent to an idea of what the lyrics of the song could work with a melody and production...
Changes the meaning too. From me makes it sound like the guy is actively taking. Baby, baby sounds like the girl singing, I am giving. Can you handle this?
They just changed the words, not the notes sung. So the melody is the same which means its the same. The song would've been a hit regardless of word choices.
@@artistaccount Right. Sounds like they changed it maybe because it sounded a little too sexually assaulting-like... Even if the girl is asking or demanding that it is taken.
I'm torn. Ester Dean's voice is very edgy and suits this sound but Rihanna's voice on this song sounds great too. Having a hard time choosing my preference.
One thing people take for granted is Demos aren't finished compared to the singles they hear on the radio. Which go through lots of people are engineered and mastered to perfection.
Esters voice is sexy, raspy and incredibly raw… I love it… wish she would sing all her songs and not give them to others… Sm for sure would have made her as a singer…
Im a witness Ester does writes... I was just in the ATL last weekend, Im an artist also... She writes for gucci mane and alot more artist... She a beast!
I read that when they record the demos they don't pay too much attention to the actual quality of the vocals. The main goal is to just get the melodies and lyrics down. So maybe that's why she doesn't sound that great!
Which was meant for Rihanna at first. I like that song a lot too! Ester is truly a hitmaker! First time I felt like Selena found a more memorable sound.
Rihanna has never pretended to be a song-writer and steal credits from the actual writers.. In her whole career i can only think of about 7 songs that she has credits on.. For any song, the credits are listed in order of contribution to the songwriting.. On this track it goes "Eriksen Hermansen Ester Dean Riddick Rob Swire Fenty". Meaning her contribution was small, but she still made one.
Theres the part in the Rihanna version where she says something like "baby if I dont feel it I ain't faking no no" which I think is a great addition as well as saying "baby baby" instead of "from me from me" SO COOL to see the behind the scenes.
@@theactualtruth4951yall stay crying about colorist. When light skin girls ain’t really pop in the industry till the 90s it’s always been brown and dark skin.
That AYYY EH EH at start is actually Rob Swire of Pendulum/Knife Party. Guy who sings on Deadmau5 - Ghosts and Stuff. He made the beat too. StarGate then added the synths you hear at 0:12 & 0:55... StarGate gave it Ester Dean and this was made.
Some of y'all need to understand that demos are not a "cover" or an "original version". Artists are supposed to know what the song would sound like (in terms of melody/ lyrics/ vibe of the song/ beat) through demos. They can then decide to either change some things like lyrics or melody (sometimes they change everything aside from the instrumental). And if they decide to go with that demo, they credit the writer/ composer and they're paid good money, so no worries! But yeah, Ester sounded great as well as did Rihanna!!!
OK! I have to admit this better than Rihanna's version O_O. I guess Rihanna's contribution is at 2:30 "get it up, time to get it up you say you're a rude boy now show me what you got now" that might not even be but she is listed as a songwriter so she did something with the lyrics or melody, but this sounds like 98% of the final track
Y’all don’t understand what a damn demo is? The demo is to show the singer how the song is supposed to be sung, it’s not that the singer “steals” the song, they pay the person for the song because they’re songwriters.
@EverythingArt309 I thought I was the only one that felt that way... I love Ester Dean... I think her voice is so cool & she is such a great writer... I be wanting to hear all the song she wrote for Rihanna on an album
Does anyone know if people who write and record demos get paid one sum or does the writer get ongoing royalties? Also is it true if the artist changes a word or a line in the song they also claim a writing credit and/or royalties too?
@DJBrainiac94 It's called a demo...meaning she wrote the song not intended for her to sing/perform. Rihanna did not write this song or even What's her name. You need to look up all the songs Esther dean wrote...you will be VERY surprised. This chick is talented.
![Ester Dean - Turn Me On [Demo For Nicki Minaj] (Studio Remastered Version by U4RIK)](/img/n.gif)
It's not a matter of who sounds better, it's the fact that she wrote the song!!!! SHE'S THE BEST WRITER IN THE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW!!!
LEROY OML
Leroy Sanchez no that's sia
the comment was literally made 6 years ago "ThefamousJezzie"
Leroy Sanchez can't argue with that😁
Lauryn Hill is
I want the demos for all of the hits she's written. Very interesting view of the pop industry
Coen Olson yeah her and Keri Hilson
Exactly. I had no idea she had so many hits she gave to another artist (Rihanna, specifically).
💯💯💯
"she"s written" LOL yeah right..stop kidding..the principle of a demo song is to propose a song to an artist..if she had written it, she wouldn't need demo
unpopular dolls don't read replies what?? she did write the song... and the purpose of a demo is to give the artist who its sent to an idea of what the lyrics of the song could work with a melody and production...
She wrote it. Y’all don’t understand talent.
Clearly we dont🥺
Some of us do. I’m in awe
She knows how to write HITS
That "baby, baby" in place of "from me, from me" makes such a big difference. Small change that refines the hook and makes it extra catchy.
I agree wholeheartedly.
i agree yes it was catchier with baby baby!
Changes the meaning too. From me makes it sound like the guy is actively taking. Baby, baby sounds like the girl singing, I am giving. Can you handle this?
They just changed the words, not the notes sung. So the melody is the same which means its the same. The song would've been a hit regardless of word choices.
@@artistaccount Right. Sounds like they changed it maybe because it sounded a little too sexually assaulting-like... Even if the girl is asking or demanding that it is taken.
Rihanna’s voice is clear, bright, and piercing. Ester’s is sultry, raspy, and all around sexy. Glad to have found this. I’ll enjoy listening to both 😉
ahah voice's rihanna is made by a computer
@@Sceaudo have you not heard her sing live? nice try
@@missanthropy5687 yes. She can't sing.
@@Monique-im2wg good to know you've got an opinion hun. so glad you needed to share.
@@missanthropy5687 ^^
She’s like the rawest raw version of Rihanna, without the commercialization
Go on n be great whicho lavender 💯💯💯💯🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Demo is really good... i like that raspiness in her voice!
I'm torn. Ester Dean's voice is very edgy and suits this sound but Rihanna's voice on this song sounds great too. Having a hard time choosing my preference.
She wrote the song...the demo is for the other artist 😂You know how she want it to flow
who compelled u to choose lmao listen to both songs then
Both are great it’s hard to choose
I love Ester's extra "nah" in the chorus. 1:03 for example. This is really great, she is so talented!! So happy I found this!
Music industry full of secrets, Ester Dean a gem.
One thing people take for granted is Demos aren't finished compared to the singles they hear on the radio. Which go through lots of people are engineered and mastered to perfection.
Rude Boy is one of the greatest pop songs ever created in years
This writer is sick riculous lyrically blessed.
Esters voice is sexy, raspy and incredibly raw… I love it… wish she would sing all her songs and not give them to others… Sm for sure would have made her as a singer…
Im a witness Ester does writes... I was just in the ATL last weekend, Im an artist also... She writes for gucci mane and alot more artist... She a beast!
Yung NiQ some of her demo I like it lot. Wish she comes back..
@@farizashar3600 where is she
You know when its a good song when nothing has changed that much from the demo.
I read that when they record the demos they don't pay too much attention to the actual quality of the vocals. The main goal is to just get the melodies and lyrics down. So maybe that's why she doesn't sound that great!
Sounds the same as Riri to me.
That's true. It's a loss of time to care about vocals on a demo track.
She sounds good to me
She sounds sexier to me. Ester voice so much attractive.
She…doesn’t….sound….great?!
She co-wrote Come & Get It by Selena Gomez... one of my all time favourite songs!
Which was meant for Rihanna at first. I like that song a lot too! Ester is truly a hitmaker!
First time I felt like Selena found a more memorable sound.
@@mermaidtingzzz That's crazy lol, you can tell it was meant for Ri for sure
Rihanna changed 3 words that's hardly co writting.
lol bitch rihanna came up with the chorus before they even they start writing
rihanna can't write😕
when it comes to legal credits, yes it does count as co-writing
Omar Navy that’s not true, I get it you love Rihanna but she is not a good writer, she is a singer and a performer
Rihanna has never pretended to be a song-writer and steal credits from the actual writers.. In her whole career i can only think of about 7 songs that she has credits on.. For any song, the credits are listed in order of contribution to the songwriting.. On this track it goes "Eriksen Hermansen Ester Dean Riddick Rob Swire Fenty". Meaning her contribution was small, but she still made one.
I want all the demos. The writers need some love too. It’s safe to release the demos like 10 years later.
Fun fact: this was co-produced and co-written by Rob Swire from Pendulum. He also did some of the backing vocals.
she ate down! such a talented writer and artist 💞
They're called "reference vocals". Ester Dean is like, the female 'The-Dream'... love it.
Omfg this woman wrote the my favorite songs
Who's leaking references/demos lol. This could get somebody fired.
who cares because i'm living for these lol
*Beyonce voice* “Somebody’s getting fired”.
But they were giving credit
The leaks, its worth it
Angel Hxze
Person: i regret nothing
Theres the part in the Rihanna version where she says something like "baby if I dont feel it I ain't faking no no" which I think is a great addition as well as saying "baby baby" instead of "from me from me"
SO COOL to see the behind the scenes.
I freaking love this woman! Cant believe she was in pitch perfect
Damn she did practically everything for Rhianna. I want my money back
😂
😭
Ester is the actual writer 😇👑 you should record and release these songs as your own. You will be #1 on all charts and singles. Go for it Ester Queen 👑
This song is a master piece.
She is so damn talented ❤️
I really wish she had kept these songs for herself. It’s great with her voice
Yeah forget the colorist industry tbh, look at these "artists" now, flopping like a fish out of water.
Hell no
@@theactualtruth4951yall stay crying about colorist. When light skin girls ain’t really pop in the industry till the 90s it’s always been brown and dark skin.
I love these. Her voice is so charismatic
Ester Dean is the truth
she's singing it the way a demo is supposed to be sung !
Wow I love her voice! When she’s raspy she reminds me of Michael Jackson a bit even. Beautiful voice! But I love Rihanna’s version too
True!!
this is definitely a unique sound, she could really do this "rock/r&b" and pretty much kill Rihanna if she went more mainstream.
this is pop
@@roycepierson9297 pop isn't really a good genre description it's just popular music
Factss. I really really wish she'd sing her own songs 😩, she'd murder everyone!
@@thekalenichannel1812 Pop is short for popular. 🙄
ooh. ester sounds nasty on this. i like it.
That AYYY EH EH at start is actually Rob Swire of Pendulum/Knife Party. Guy who sings on Deadmau5 - Ghosts and Stuff. He made the beat too. StarGate then added the synths you hear at 0:12 & 0:55... StarGate gave it Ester Dean and this was made.
She’s legendary
PSA!!! I need an Ester Dean album ❤ she’s beautiful, intelligent and extremely talented 🤩
Ester Dean is perfect!
Freaking easter dean's awesome with her writing skills she made all the hits
I just love hear to original demo's
I know you may not like Rih, but she also added the hook and had different adlibs. Facts.
She didn’t add that the people in the room add that when the song came to her. She just a product that get told what to do in the studio.
Remembered this back to back playing on every radio stations
I streaming her demos right now . Hahaha it’s crazy coz i love it!!!
Some of y'all need to understand that demos are not a "cover" or an "original version". Artists are supposed to know what the song would sound like (in terms of melody/ lyrics/ vibe of the song/ beat) through demos. They can then decide to either change some things like lyrics or melody (sometimes they change everything aside from the instrumental). And if they decide to go with that demo, they credit the writer/ composer and they're paid good money, so no worries! But yeah, Ester sounded great as well as did Rihanna!!!
She should sing live because she has a beautiful voice
i love her so much man
wow, another song I had no idea she wrote.. damn!! Yeah, this girl got talent .. For real
i love the rasp in her voice
I’m pretty sure Ester dean would get more money milked out for her to sell songs to the right artist for hits than her keeping the track.
ATE!
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@@Purplebutterfly061 tf????
@@_Sumeyo_ nothing, I thought you were talking to me!
@@Purplebutterfly061 ate means that she did an amazing job
@@Purplebutterfly061 it means she served! she did it well, kudos, etc
she is legendary 🤍💫
I will jam to both versions 💖💖💖💖💖
such a raw voice. good demo.
She’s bomb yo. So talented
“SHE COPIED MY FLOW, BAR FOR BAR, WORD FOR WORD!“ - Ester Dean
Obsessed with her voice
Love her voice so much... prefer her sound to Rhianna on this song
Hello Songland watchers!
Seb la frite 😉
Yess
Owwiiii ^w^
I love both vers.. Rihanna killed it,, and ester dean killed it as well.
damn she did a demo for rude boy too
How am I now finding this???? And there is more 🤯🤯🤯
I am really enjoying these. :)
ahhh I love love love ester
love u ester..u r amazing...
Hitmaker 🖊 📃 🎶
Watching these demos have taught me one thing about ester… she really likes her “nah nahsss”
Ester's vocals are still present on the released version.
amazing songwriter right here !
The way the songwriter sings it on the demo is how the artist sings it.
rihanna added alot of lyrics in the bridge
yea rihanna got that other def jam writer to fix it because she wasnt completely in love with it.
SongwriterJT so? she didn't write or create the song, she just tweaked it yet people complain about Beyonce yet Rihanna gets away with it? FOH
+Vinny Farlene because Rihanna never claimed to write someone else's song like Beyoncé has done plenty times in the past.
Vinny Farlene did I say it was a problem clown ?
***** sure.
i like ester's voice
riri sound better in it i'm glad she wrote it for her
She’s so good!
I like this version better then Rihanna
OK! I have to admit this better than Rihanna's version O_O. I guess Rihanna's contribution is at 2:30 "get it up, time to get it up you say you're a rude boy now show me what you got now" that might not even be but she is listed as a songwriter so she did something with the lyrics or melody, but this sounds like 98% of the final track
one strong voice, beats most female singers. she sings with passion and so much determination, as though she means it. fair play :)
Can you imagine Rihanna’s face everytime they told her Ester got a new song for her 🤑 Ester cashed the fuck out too DAMN 🙌🏼
love this song
Lol at the end "fake ass, fake ass" ahha
😂
i like it... keep it up
Its a business decision. The song will more likely do better and bring more returns if someone like rihanna who is an established artist sang it.
XxMaKeMeLaUgHxX if you never give chances then nobody becomes established
Very good !
Rihanna wrote this with Ester Dean, one of Riri's best songs!
Y’all don’t understand what a damn demo is? The demo is to show the singer how the song is supposed to be sung, it’s not that the singer “steals” the song, they pay the person for the song because they’re songwriters.
Fire!
I really love that song, didnt know that riri had copy her
Yo ester is the one her voice is not to be messed wiv, true vison
Did she write every song for Rihanna
+Official MikeLee No, Sia wrote a bunch, as well as many other well known producers.
+WhatTheTech the only song Rihanna has taken from sia is diamonds...
+RIH_LOVE1 and sledgehammer
Guccilitty but did you hear Sir sing Diamonds? AMAZING
😅😂😅
The vocal fry that we hear is Rihanna's trademark
@EverythingArt309 I thought I was the only one that felt that way... I love Ester Dean... I think her voice is so cool & she is such a great writer... I be wanting to hear all the song she wrote for Rihanna on an album
wow Ester Dean is very pretty and she is an awesome writter
Does anyone know if people who write and record demos get paid one sum or does the writer get ongoing royalties? Also is it true if the artist changes a word or a line in the song they also claim a writing credit and/or royalties too?
who cares how she sounds...its a DEMO..HELLO shes making soooooo much money right now!! go ester
@DJBrainiac94 It's called a demo...meaning she wrote the song not intended for her to sing/perform. Rihanna did not write this song or even What's her name. You need to look up all the songs Esther dean wrote...you will be VERY surprised. This chick is talented.