When I was younger and played this game for the first time (and then when I was subsequently obsessed with it) I never liked Shinobu that much. I think my love for Bad Girl overshadowed Shinobu, but I think now that I'm older, Shinobu has got to be one of the coolest fights in the game. The abandoned school house carries such a unique and ethereal beauty to it. And her movements are somewhat mesmerizing. Glad she came back for more screen time in later games. Just wish her segments in NMH2 were a little bit better designed.
Every time I hear this I picture someone or something rapidly approaching and the first two minutes are the characters talking about what they’re about to go up against, and they talk about it before it reaches a crescendo at 1:41, but after that they’re getting more and more confident before dealing with the threat at 2:14. Then after that they brawl.
the fight's pure bullshit until you essentially memorize it. if you want to get revenge on shinobu, come back to her in a sweet NG+ run. i killed her in 5 hits.
while yeah, Bad Girl did take me a few tries, Shinobu was like Jeane tier of difficulty to fight. Def one of the more satisfying bosses to beat once you get your shit down.
After seeing a Japanese youtuber stumble onto something similar, is that "Nooiise" in the song supposed to be a cicada?! With the song being "Season of the Samurai", I think they wanted have something like Japanese Cicada's in the song. But NMH likes to use English in its music. So the song composer literally looked up what sound Cicadas make in English. To which they found... "Noise", because English doesn't have a ton of Onomatopoeia like Japanese does, especially for Cicadas. But instead of realizing "Oh, English doesn't have a sound effect for Cicadas", they read that as "In English, Cicadas go 'NOOOIIISE'".
it's an audio sample saying "white noise". which is accurate because the sample itself is difficult to interpret otherwise unless you really pay attention, thus making it white noise. if i had to guess it's probably taken from some kinda dj dance track sample album. a lot of music composers use samples from sample albums.
I never heard the "nnooiisse" as words or even a digitized human voice. My mind is absolutely blown by the discovery AND the fun fact. By any chance if you get to see this comment, could you direct me to the TH-camr you're talking about? Thank you!
@@ekx5120 First Japanese youtuber that comes to mind that talked about this is Subaru: watch?v=xhkQifnBrYk The first reply's explanation definitely makes more sense, though. Especially after listening to other Japanese composers that love using samples.
Having beaten Shinobu on my first time, I feel like alot of the reason people think of her as such a difficult boss is that she's the first one that requires you to be careful when you go in for a hit, and so many people go swingly wildly at her, and getting their asses kicked. If you are careful, and wait for openings, and make sure to keep the dodge roll in mind, she is alot more bearable as a boss.
I just beat shinobu last night, and she KICKED THE EVER-LOVING FUCK OUT OF ME. To anyone who wants to get into the game, getting the tsubaki and doing all the training at the thunder ryu building is goddamn near mandatory for this fight.
Because the devs forgot to balance her multi hit attack for bitter's damage increase, so she gets a 2 frame start-up and split second tell on an attack that can take you from full hp to zero
@@marcievania You're actually supposed to cheese Shinobu in the same way as Jeane on Bitter since she actually cheats on Dark Steps. Charge attacks, basically.
Did a no upgrade of no more heroes 1 on bitter mode, motherfucking Shinobu took the most precise techniques and took around 20+ tries before i finally beat her. The popoff was great tho. Surprisingly, Bad Girl only took two tries on that same run Jeane took about 4-5 tries and Henry.... I haven't beat Henry yet. 300+ hits and i haven't even done a third of his health bar? No fuck that
At least this boss fight had the good grace to have a banger boss theme. Made the sting of getting my ass man-handled by a little school girl a bit more bearable :P
Yk, i played this game on hard then beat it on ng+, this boss is still difficult, not bc it actually is it's just that you'll be doing fine then you'll just be hit bc it changed phases without telling you
@@tek3576 Shinobu and Kimmy were the only two characters Travis let live and it was only to kill them at a later date except shinobu who 1. didn't have a reason to want travis dead anymore 2. I know it was retconned but the reveal at the end of NMH1 kinda makes it so that they literally didn't have to be at eachothers throats at all. That being said Rivals are not a thing, you either live or you die, the only hard exception is Destroy man, but even he still technically dies everytime, even if he has a bad habit of coming back.
@@alcoholicdog8800 that's what I mean "not the traditional way", I was thinking about romanticism, Romantic Era of art. You can romanticize a tradition, a feeling that has nothing to do with "love".
lol seeing u guys saying Shinobu was hard but when i fought her for the first time the other day im pretty sure i beat her first try. So far Holly Summers has been the hardest for me cuz of her damn rockets and pit traps
When you see her about to use the rockets, back up from her until they all fly up, then charge back in and attack her. The rockets should all fly outward and not hit you. Hope this helps :)
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Rank 8: Shinobu. The wake-up boss.
Ganymede, Jupiter III I see you everywhere
@@VitaEmerald324 game music keeps me sane. That's why I need a lot of it.
The only challenging boss in my opinion.
i think i got stuck at shinobu for 2 hour lmao
after that the bosses is less painful than that
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"...The fitness gram pacer test-"
I thought it was gram all this time
@@DESTRAKON It is "gram"
When I was younger and played this game for the first time (and then when I was subsequently obsessed with it) I never liked Shinobu that much. I think my love for Bad Girl overshadowed Shinobu, but I think now that I'm older, Shinobu has got to be one of the coolest fights in the game. The abandoned school house carries such a unique and ethereal beauty to it. And her movements are somewhat mesmerizing. Glad she came back for more screen time in later games. Just wish her segments in NMH2 were a little bit better designed.
I think her segments aren’t so bad if you don’t finish the combos not as good as Travis or Henry but not terrible
"What's that in your hand, a toy?"
My favorite detail about this fight is how Shinobu ambushes you from behind a wall instead of coming at you directly like other bosses
Every time I hear this I picture someone or something rapidly approaching and the first two minutes are the characters talking about what they’re about to go up against, and they talk about it before it reaches a crescendo at 1:41, but after that they’re getting more and more confident before dealing with the threat at 2:14. Then after that they brawl.
Dude was it just me, or did she seem harder on the Switch version? I fought her on Mild, and I don't remember her being that fucking insane.
Same here she kicked my ass like 10 times before I beat her
She got me with her Sonic Sword barrage.
I had a harder time with the Wii version tbh. I beat her in one try in my bitter playthrough.
the fight's pure bullshit until you essentially memorize it. if you want to get revenge on shinobu, come back to her in a sweet NG+ run. i killed her in 5 hits.
@@StarDiamond3 i felt the same way. Maybe its cos I was 15 at the time? She felt a bit easier this time around.
while yeah, Bad Girl did take me a few tries, Shinobu was like Jeane tier of difficulty to fight.
Def one of the more satisfying bosses to beat once you get your shit down.
After seeing a Japanese youtuber stumble onto something similar, is that "Nooiise" in the song supposed to be a cicada?!
With the song being "Season of the Samurai", I think they wanted have something like Japanese Cicada's in the song.
But NMH likes to use English in its music.
So the song composer literally looked up what sound Cicadas make in English.
To which they found... "Noise", because English doesn't have a ton of Onomatopoeia like Japanese does, especially for Cicadas.
But instead of realizing "Oh, English doesn't have a sound effect for Cicadas", they read that as "In English, Cicadas go 'NOOOIIISE'".
it's an audio sample saying "white noise". which is accurate because the sample itself is difficult to interpret otherwise unless you really pay attention, thus making it white noise.
if i had to guess it's probably taken from some kinda dj dance track sample album. a lot of music composers use samples from sample albums.
@@spookatzz Hideki Naganuma, my beloved.
I never heard the "nnooiisse" as words or even a digitized human voice. My mind is absolutely blown by the discovery AND the fun fact. By any chance if you get to see this comment, could you direct me to the TH-camr you're talking about? Thank you!
@@ekx5120 First Japanese youtuber that comes to mind that talked about this is Subaru:
watch?v=xhkQifnBrYk
The first reply's explanation definitely makes more sense, though. Especially after listening to other Japanese composers that love using samples.
Having beaten Shinobu on my first time, I feel like alot of the reason people think of her as such a difficult boss is that she's the first one that requires you to be careful when you go in for a hit, and so many people go swingly wildly at her, and getting their asses kicked. If you are careful, and wait for openings, and make sure to keep the dodge roll in mind, she is alot more bearable as a boss.
doesn’t shinobu’s fight also place an emphasis on using wrestling moves, or was that another person’s fight?
@@hollow_w33n it does! If you watch for when she's open to take a wrestling move, you can shave off plenty of health off of her.
I beat her first try, then proceeded to get my ass kicked five times in a row on Hard Mode.
Damn this boss was bitchin'
I just beat shinobu last night, and she KICKED THE EVER-LOVING FUCK OUT OF ME. To anyone who wants to get into the game, getting the tsubaki and doing all the training at the thunder ryu building is goddamn near mandatory for this fight.
Lyrics:
Oo nooice
Oo nooice
Oo nooice
Season of the Switch, boys.
why was she the hardest boss in the game
Because the devs forgot to balance her multi hit attack for bitter's damage increase, so she gets a 2 frame start-up and split second tell on an attack that can take you from full hp to zero
@@mayday2237 i played on mild and she was the only boss i had trouble with, tho tbf i did cheese jeanne
@@marcievania You're actually supposed to cheese Shinobu in the same way as Jeane on Bitter since she actually cheats on Dark Steps. Charge attacks, basically.
Shinobu is the only one I've died to so far. Currently playing thru the game for the first time. Wish me luck on the rest of the bosses lads
how did it go?
Man that Letz Shake guy was real trouble, let me tell you
@@LckD008
FUCKIN SNATCHER
This has always been the best song in the game for me
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Legit one one of if not my favorite boss themes from the trilogy
when you realize there's more defensive moves than only shadow step
I don't know how I added this to my playlist but this shit rocks
Did a no upgrade of no more heroes 1 on bitter mode, motherfucking Shinobu took the most precise techniques and took around 20+ tries before i finally beat her. The popoff was great tho.
Surprisingly, Bad Girl only took two tries on that same run
Jeane took about 4-5 tries and Henry.... I haven't beat Henry yet. 300+ hits and i haven't even done a third of his health bar? No fuck that
Update: 800+ hits to beat Henry with no upgrades
@@kiradegrey My god, I thought you said "No hit" on my first reading, I nearly fainted.
She was hard. Than I learned how to dodge.
Win, always
Best song in the game
At least this boss fight had the good grace to have a banger boss theme.
Made the sting of getting my ass man-handled by a little school girl a bit more bearable :P
Be NOIIIICEEEEEEEEE.
what's that in your hand? a toy?
Yk, i played this game on hard then beat it on ng+, this boss is still difficult, not bc it actually is it's just that you'll be doing fine then you'll just be hit bc it changed phases without telling you
“He’s gonna catch ‘em all ‘cause he’s Danny Phantom…”
Listen to the Danny Phantom Theme Song next you'll be surprised.
NNNNoice
GODHAND's Moke Koib brought me here :D
I feel like Im alone when I say Shinobu is my favorite character
Shinobu was great in 1, but I didn't really like her at all in 2. It's a shame, too, since her design in that game was great
2 wasnt headed by suda51, go play tsa to see good old shinobu (u have to beat the game and get the dlc but I think the dlc usually comes bundled now(
@@DekuDunkstar yeah it came out of nowhere, and kinds ruined her character. She would have been a great rival character
@@tek3576 Shinobu and Kimmy were the only two characters Travis let live and it was only to kill them at a later date except shinobu who 1. didn't have a reason to want travis dead anymore 2. I know it was retconned but the reveal at the end of NMH1 kinda makes it so that they literally didn't have to be at eachothers throats at all.
That being said Rivals are not a thing, you either live or you die, the only hard exception is Destroy man, but even he still technically dies everytime, even if he has a bad habit of coming back.
You're not it's not an unpopular choice
Season of the Samurai of the Switch.
Bitter shinobu is fucking difficult but i think we can all agree bad girl is kinda fucking insane
Bad Girl and Shinobu were the hardest for me. Jeane was a little annoying too, but not as bad.
And guess which bosses they brought back to side with Travis in III
Bad girl is linda slow, and has a Lot of health. The deal with Bad girl is using wrestling moves and dodging the last hit of her chain attacks.
This song has some sort of romantic feeling for me, not in the traditional way.
Its probably the romantic and love filled line "noise"
@@alcoholicdog8800 that's what I mean "not the traditional way", I was thinking about romanticism, Romantic Era of art. You can romanticize a tradition, a feeling that has nothing to do with "love".
@@Dukefazon i was maming a joke
lol seeing u guys saying Shinobu was hard but when i fought her for the first time the other day im pretty sure i beat her first try. So far Holly Summers has been the hardest for me cuz of her damn rockets and pit traps
When you see her about to use the rockets, back up from her until they all fly up, then charge back in and attack her. The rockets should all fly outward and not hit you. Hope this helps :)
MAYONNAISE
LIKE!
Shinobu, my aprendice...
Please never change this typo
mfw i make a slightly mistimed roll and get one shot for it
feel like i'm the only one who thought she wasn't that hard
nyoose