Spoiler Alert! For those in the cheap seats who think these fascist principles won't impact them: "If they take me in the morning, they're coming for you tonight..." -- Sister Angela Davis
Just a reminder... Hitler's "Thousand Year Reich" only lasted 12 years. The Nazis totally destroyed THEIR OWN COUNTRY with their authoritarian fascist and oligarchic insanity. Half of Germany was ripped away and given to the Soviets/Russians, and Germany was reunited ONLY by the fluke of the collapse of the authoritarian dictatorial reign of the Russians (who then installed ANOTHER authoritarian tyrant over themselves).
Don’t forget that a few months ago they made it illegal to go through someone else’s phone. So you can’t even prove cheating by using evidence from your spouse‘s phone, which would normally be a primary source.
Don't forget that with some women agreeing to be stay at home wives, it's also hard to hire a PI to gather the evidence for them. I won't be surprised if some women just disappear in the middle of the night just to get away.
I live in Oklahoma, but I'm 4B. My two female cousins: 1 54 and never married & 1 50 who is divorced, were shocked I have no desire to marry & that I should pray for God to send me a husband. My response "If he wanted me to have one he would have sent me one decades ago when I was still open to dating." I don't understand how they could be sad for me for not having something they also don't have. I just learned about 4B last year, but I've been living the 4B lifestyle for 8 yrs. Nah, at 45 I'm good; I've been single the majority of life anyway.
I had to chuckle at your comment…when I learned about 4B I was like: huh…so there’s an actual name for it now? 😂 59 here, never married, childfree, been fully 4B for almost 12 years now. In my 20s I thought I’d been raised wrong but now I’m beyond thankful for parents who taught me I was meant for more than to be some man’s “helpmeet.” (I wasn’t raised in the church and a big reason was because they WERE.) Instead of wasting my time beating myself up because I didn’t “fit in” I wish I’d grabbed onto my freedom with both hands and rode it as far as it would take me. Fortunately I’m still alive and in reasonably good health…which means it’s not too late…
@@LBellatrix My parents were also raised religious and thus raised me secular. I was married when I was 23, he was almost 13 years older than me. I got divorced after 10 years. I saw someone for about 4 years after that, but didn't live together. Once I was done with the BS in that relationship I have been single ever since. I'm 58 now and am so glad. People are always so amazed and baffled that I don't at least want to date. No way, too much effort goes into what the guy wants and it has never been reciprocated. So it isn't worth the time and effort. I love having my life as MY life.
@@kellyfowler6426 I was accused of being “too picky” AND at the same time I was told to “pick better” (basically I wasn’t picky enough). Once I realized my odds were so poor, I dropped out entirely. My biggest goal now is to be able to live my remaining years in peace. If a man can’t add to that, I don’t need him.
I'm so glad I'm to old for this too. I've had my children and marriages. I've been done with relationships. Any time someone tries to talk to me I gladly say, "I'm 54, I'm too old."
Just had my divorce finalized in November. In NC I had to have a one year separation. This bill is terrifying. I went the cheapest route and did an online package instead of any lawyers or mediators because we didn’t really have any assets and he wasn’t fighting me. It was still expensive and divorce is already out of reach logistically and financially for so many women. This added burden of a preponderance of evidence is so arcane and will trap so many victims of abuse. Ladies- DONT GET MARRIED. There is not enough of an upside to sacrifice your freedom for some man who probably wants a wife appliance.
Not just the ones who stayed home but also to the people who voted for the wrong party. The 2024 Presidential Election had nothing to do with policies but everything to do with every civilian not having their freedoms and rights being taken away. Now, we've entered into a time where hundreds of millions of lives are in literal danger.
Thinking realistically if they have banned abortion and are making it harder to get contraceptives they will most likely ban getting tubes tied and many other operations that inhibit birth beforehand. What gets me is that if any of these politicians and the rich wanted to get any of this stuff done once it's outlawed they still can because they have the connections and the funds to do so in a safe and sterile environment. History repeats itself
And less women will opt for not having children. It's not safe in so many ways. This will have the op opposite effect of what they try to achieve. Let's be honest, they want more White babies..
This is why they will lower the age of Marriage so that more young and naive young ladies in their teens get trapped in marriage contract just like student loans 😢
@@Jac527 Yes because one of these red states was pushing to lower the age of consent. I always knew the people yelling the loudest about "protecting the children" were the true pedo's
@@Jac527 I believe OK is one of the states challenging abortion drugs as directly harming then because they need pregnant teens to boost population for their representation in Congress
I'm so glad I'm a travel nurse with a compact license. I always have an out. I'll just leave/disappear. I have no problem starting over in another state if my spouse starts acting like a fool. My boyfriend has been pressuring me to sell my RV, but I'm like, no, sir. That's my residence in case you want to get crazy with me.
Lollipop, you are my inspiration because I, too, want to travel around but have my career ready in case crazy men go crazy. Also, an RV is an intelligent move since climate change and all.
So SO smart. Keep your options open. Also, why “sell” the RV? Cause couldn’t you just store it? It would make more sense to store it for 6 months and have a lil trial move in with him.
In Oklahoma, the age of consent is 16 and it is still difficult to prosecute statutory r. Not only that, marriage with parental consent is allowed and they are in the top 5 states with the highest child marriages per capita. Let's not pretend that every woman or child has a choice. Many girls clearly do not, and now more who are forced into marriages won't be able to escape. ETA: This affects white girls the LEAST. Texas has the highest percentage of child marriages. If you think these laws won't reach you or your community, you're wrong. Finally, I dont care that you're not interested but you're exposing yourselves as ignorant. If you're not interested move along, not the video or comment for you.
We gotta press on these OK parents to protect their kids, especially from those creepy "family friends". Education and questioning long held "traditions" usually wakes folks up.
@@Callimounfortunately education and questioning only wakes up people who are willing to change. All those children are in danger because while they might want change, the systemic lack of education means many of their parents and their lawmakers might not 😢
@shaynaconde True. Short of actively yoinking those kids from their abusive households, at least getting the info out there starts a conversation instead of keeping it a "family secret".
In 2024 the lawmakers failed to increase the age of consent to 18 (initially receiving majority approval) because they tried to ban most childhood marriages at the same time (Senate Bill 615). There were other issues with the bill pertaining to limiting prosecution based on age difference, but in any case this shows that lawmakers are unwilling to protect children. Concerning the parents, not only do they not protect their kids, they actually punish girls by forcing them to marry the person who hurt them because of purity culture. We can't wait for the culture to change, legislation should be leading the way. Even if the culture needs time to catch up, it's up to the state/ country etc to enforce child protection laws. Expecting individuals to change at a fast enough rate is unrealistic.
At this point, it's best to stay single. Edit:I remember reading in the comments section of a video that the same(or similar) thing happened back then. Before no fault divorce. Let's just say...there were less women...
True the self-deletion rate went WAY down for women after no-fault divorce came into effect. Forcing women to stay in horrible marriages is not about family values. It is just more oppression.
@@tinyshepherdess7710 Also fewer husbands had fatal "accidents" or 'illnesses" and women no longer needed to purchase Acqua Tofana after no fault divorce became the law 😉
@@tinyshepherdess7710 Not just self-deletion, but partner-initiated deletion would be an issue. Women divorce for reasons. Sometimes, emotional and financial abuse escalate into worse even without prior physical abuse.
I used to think I wanted to get married. Until I realized what marriage really is. Marriage is just a piece of paper that says a man owns me. And my properties. I'm not getting married anymore.
Yes. If you have more than that man and he isn’t worth anything tangible, it wouldn’t really mean anything. Too many women marry just ANYBODY and then wonder what the point was. It’s good to research and know the person you are dealing with/ your assets before going into it. & it’s fine not to do it but we shouldn’t be giving them babies without it either. Women must get their money up and go to a donor (If having a baby is a MUST for them). A man that isn’t worth committing to. Probably isn’t worth being a father either. 😅😴
Just don’t get married facing your abuser in court is not a pleasant experience and sometimes they make you wait in the same waiting room and the clerks don’t give a shit if you barely got away with your life when u ended the relationship
Having to continuously be around them during all that is why people didn't believe it "was that bad". Because for sure, they'd be acting crazy in those scenarios and I'd be shaking like a leaf, freaking out as well, right?
@ There was a time, not too long ago, when marriage was a woman’s only means of survival. And women had no rights, not to vote, not to earn her own money. It was as recent as the 1980’s that a woman could get a checking account in her own name. That’s why we used to have to marry, but we don’t have to now…and we’re not going back.
@@LuShanna She mentioned "stay" twice in regards to marriage. Anyway, we agree with ya'll. Don't get married, leave it to those who want that husband & wife lifestyle. Makes the dating pool less of a headache to maneuver. Stop telling others that marriage is miserable, no one's looking for a servant or slave, there are healthy adults out here looking to build respectable generations together.
@@OneNiftyBoi if you uave to force people to stay in a relationship with you that is slavery and abuse. Stop lying and trying to get women to fall for it. You want women to get married and be unable to leave or have autonomy over themselves? You are out of your mind.
I remember a comment from a woman years ago which said that the rich people in her circles were having ceremonies/receptions but no marriage license/government involvement. They would get their lawyers to write up a relationship contract for them instead. That's the only kind of "marriage" I would agree to now.
My conclusion is that with Trump he might start forcing Christianity on to people and in turn, harden their hearts. I actually think it’s by design for something sinister planned.🤔
@@BrandonTimmons-km4hiso the laW wants to prohibit humans from using their free will and ability to change their minds by forcing them to stay in marriages? Got it lol.
People who think this will cause people to take "marriage" more seriously are haplessly proud and idiotic. I grew up in the Bible Belt going to the baptist church with parents who love one another. But my parents were RARE in the church and still are to this day. Their dynamic vs the one that was the norm in the church was Night and Day, the Desert and the Ocean, Fire and Ice. I saw lifeless marriages and hate-filled marriages and hollow marriages flock around my parents jealously since I was young. I watched abusive and vile people be supported by the church because divorce had such a stigma around it. The Bible allows for divorce. Patriarchy does not unless it is the man who wants out. Men on aggregate are the abusers in relationships. The statistics don't lie. Anti-freedom and Puritans with pharisaical morons want marriage to be a bear trap, especially for women, they historically always have. Because fundies are less about the teachings of God and all about their Stepford Wife country club mega church status quo being maintained. They will only punish women and never hold men accountable. And if a man is not marriage material or fit at all to be a husband they will expect some 'good hearted woman' to make him so. They will expect women to fix him. But his issues are between him and his maker. They are his responsibility. But one Patriarchy will blasphemously never force him to bear.
Times have changed and the stigma of not being married has disappeared except from extremely religious communities. This is dangerous for women and I hope they choose themselves.
All of what you said is true. I'm still very much confused as to why American "Christian" doctrine preaches that marriage is a be all, end all act that all must adhere to when the Bible says the opposite. Singlehood is valued over marriage because it gives the woman (mostly) and men the freedom to do ministerial work for however long they desire. Once a woman gets married, her focus shifts to that of her household. Marriage, according to the Apostle Paul were for the folks who couldn't contain their lusts and they were encouraged to find like minded people
This is some scary shit. Don't get married ladies! It's not worth the risk. Live together. Marriage is not necessary. Make your own money. Have a backup plan.
Don't even live together. Some states can consider you common law married if you live together for a certain period of time. (Don't get mail at his house either.) Spend as much time as you want over at his place, but retain your own domicile so that if his mask falls off, you have somewhere to go to get away from him.
Nope, don’t live with a man. Dv happens a lot to women who live with men. A man is still a man despite any relationship status even a brother, or uncle doesn’t live with them!!!
Yeah. I told my kids... ceremonies only, no paperwork.... You don't owe society a show and you don't want to back yourself into an unseen corner for anyone..
@ trust me if most ppl actually tried to do this. We’d literally get rid of all these issues ppl have now. Leave each other alone. Then there won’t be any complaints
At 7 minutes those are yours and othe women that get divorced arguments for leaving a marriage oh there so much I want to say about your entire argument is false with receipt to show ur incorrect.
When people ask me if I'm married, i always tell them 'I don't marry people'. When they ask why i say 'bc I'm not an idiot ......... No offense' (they are usually married 😂😂😂) More women need to do the same
You just have to find a man who actually wants to be a faithful husband and active father it's simple! Most women don't want to get married because they can't meet a good man or a man who actually wants marriage. So it's easy to say you don't want marriage when there are ZERO prospects. I got married in my 20s and I'm STILL happily married 3 children later.
@@theluminarysoul Even if they are banned, they can't ban our hands, coconut oil, or any of the materials that can be used to make our own toys with a light time investment. Could also plan to not be in the US soon enough. Get your money up, girlies.
@thosewhocare2427 Right?! Look at this idiot. WOMEN ARE PERFECT AND CAN DO, HAVE DONE, AND WILL MEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG. I just don't even understand how to communicate that to these misogynistic men anymore.
I agree! Like putting it on the table that they're unable to last in bed. Or that their 🍆 is so dead,it only needs a casket!! So,women must stay married under that??? It's time to be an expat !
We just reverted back to 1920s . Women have no independence, force to stay in abusive marriages. Gracism * was high and old money ran the world . That was when so called America was great again . Up next handmaids Tale . 😢
Those laws were only technically ratified in 2007- it doesn’t have long legal precedence, so that gives them an opportunity to attack it. States had to sign to ratify; 38 were required.
Lol the last 50 years have been hell for men. Women were suppose to be sweethearts but we learning quickly they never liked men. You guys wanted to have men's power. Marriage is not a trap if you don't have hidden motives. If a man provides everything and you turn around and divorce because you aren't happy then you are to blame. Most women are doing bare minimum these days in marriages. You watch your dumb reality shows and think you deserve million dollar home or figure income. Women are delusional and irresponsible. You guys don't take accountability at all and now have corrupted many generations of women to disrespect male authority. Feminism proved women are never to be trusted with leadership.
I had a school friend got married in her early 20's Catholic church required pre marriage counseling. Priest told she had to stayarried even if her husband abused her. This new rule they say will allow divorce if SA or physical abuse is proved. However, their idea of (proof) involves discouraging women reporting it it, If they they manipulate and gaslight her to say, was it really abuse, are you sure? Reminds of Islamic law where a woman can only prove rape os she has 2 male witnesses to prove it WTF!! But if any passing stranger acuses her of anything especially adultery, it is is automatic stoning. The fuck
That's horrible. I learned a Catholic woman was allowed divorce by her diocese, they annulled her marriage, and let her get away from her abusive spouse. I think that if men mask their true colors and become abusive after marriage, this might be categorized as fraud.
Why would anyone seek out pre marriage counseling from a bunch of men who have never gotten married or from an institution where sexual abuse of minors is rampant?
What you said about Islamic law is not true at all. Stop spreading false info. If she was accused of any kind of adultery, they would still need the witnesses. Word alone is not enough to accuse her of adultery.
My sister got married in the Catholic Church. She had to take the classes That did not stop her from leaving him once he turned abusive He abused her during the night. She and her stuff were gone by the time he came home from work the next day
Authoritarians are alike all over. Where one is successful, the others are taking notes. I also saw in a BurbNBougee video that OK introduced legislation to limit homeless shelters to only cities that have a population of 300,000 or more, which would mean just two cities in that entire state. And who is most likely to end up needing access to a homeless shelter? 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
@Meow4B Oooooooh yes, I remember seeing that. Absolutely revolting. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 But at this point, I'm not at all surprised that the organization could pull that off, even if it does violate the First Amendment. Like Shayna said, separation of church and state was an optical illusion to begin with. There's a video on here that truly rewired my brain called Always A Bigger Fish. It's by Innuendo Studios, I cannot recommend it enough. But one of the points he makes is that the reason conservatives like the idea of Capitalism is that they see it as a Darwinian proving ground where only the "worthy" survive. I think the same logic applies here. Because anybody who opposes the forced religious practice is gonna be met with BuT iT's NoT tHaT bIg Of A dEaL because they're "only being asked to sit in church a couple times a week" in exchange for life-saving shelter. And if they're not willing to accept that "small" request, then they must not care that much about being alive. Exactly like Jesus preached. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
Every law is a piece of the larger puzzle...AI will be eliminating lots of jobs, but mass deportation opens up jobs that no one else wants... Crashing the economy causes people to lose their homes and be desperate for work... Homeless people can be arrested... And we allow prison labor... It just goes on and on...
@@Meow4B That is exactly what they are doing. It is absolutely unconstitutional, but with the current hard core fundie supreme court there is no redress.
@@brandya7341 in the Bible Jesus said somewhere that you should never believe a person preaching from a pulpit or in a house or by those who want you to worship publicly. It is supposed to be a private thing between you and God. Alone.
Is oklahoma also the state that forced the woman to do was called reunion therapy with her police husband who was sexually assaulting the kids and they made her go to therapy where she and the kids had apologized and because she said she wasn't going to do it she got arrested
@@MN-hv5xvcrazy men everywhere. All the women who voted for Trump will scratch their head when the policies effect them personally. Sorry for those who voted for Kamala Harris.
I’m not in Oklahoma but with this insane government that has started today and all of the knowledge I have learned in the past year I will not marry period!!
This bill isn't going to stick for long. It's a direct violation of the separation of church and state. No section of the American government can force its citizens to follow any church or it's "laws". I forsee a lot lawsuits being filed against Oklahoma
@mushmouth610 i know I'm right. Fascism and church control, historically, has never prevailed. There are far too many different individuals with different lives that will not bow down to this new president or his cult. Power to the people!
Idk man I can totally see this sticking around for more religious based states. If the abortion laws can stay I have a good feeling the same states with those imposed will keep the marriage one.
@tsarinastevens9447 disagree. I understand it all looks very bleak, but American women beat this Christian based BS before, and we'll beat again! Religious beliefs have no legal bearing on human cuvil rights. Period. Done. Case closed. Stay vigilant 🫶
@Jac527 that would be illegal to lower the age any further and plus parents would have to sign off for their MINOR to get married. So the masses are just going to be in agreement with PDFs now? Absolutely not.
What happens in Mississippi.. I wonder why they are forcing marriage. I feel like it has something to do with money.But I still can't put the nail on it..
@@lifeis2171ppl are not as desperate and asleep if they dont have to be focused on taking care of dependents. Also kids are the future slaves, i mean workforce.
My boyfriend and I talked about it and we decided we're not getting married unless it to protect each other rights. We are in our 40s we're not having any children together. We are happy single on paper living together.
This comment sums up the average mindset in the comment section for this video. Even the video itself. She's mad that they want evidence for a legal preceding. Imagine that...
What I'm worried about is that down the line, how does Project 2025 "punish" childless women who had their tubes tied? Will we now have to deal with not only forced birth, but forced reversal of tubal litigation? Would a hysterectomy be the only safe way to avoid a forced breeding program (it in project 2025 ) to boost birth rates. Handmaids tale is here.....this is sick ning
Im almost convinced women need to be protected from themselves and their decisions because the women in 95% of these comments are reckless, immature and spiteful af. Smdh @@BrandonTimmons-km4hi
Once one state does something like this other states are like "😮 we didn't know we could do that😮" and I live in a blue state but sometimes votes in a Republican governor... I'll stay single.
Get your tubes tied or get an arm implant. Get a 🌹 with H20 based lube. Get your CCW if you haven’t already and learn how to be good with one weapon. We are officially in The Handmaids Tale.
Hey can anyone married tell me why it doesn't work. I'm early 30s never married and I thought I wanted to, but can someone tell me why I shouldn't? Cuz it seems to be the smartest thing logically, but the lonelier thing emotionally
Well men don't benefit from marriage women the government and institutions do. I don't think men will be hurt from not having to have a divorce Sprung on them and lose half of their valuables and finances and get put on Alimony and child support. 😊
This is the plan. No marriage and no children especially for minorities. Ye all better wake up. It is the opposite. Whatever they say IT IS THE OPPOSITE
@@strawberryfox8819misandrist trying to convince daughter who has a fresh mind that hasn't been corrupt By the All men bad narrative is All that's happened here from the sounds of it 😂
Let her make her own decisions and live her life, not be influenced by your life choices. Begging her notbto make her own choices is overboard, controlling and disturbing.
I want to take a moment to commend the incredible work that you do. It truly doesn’t go unnoticed and is deeply appreciated. The content you provide is impactful and thought-provoking. It’s disheartening to witness the troubling events happening in our current climate. For example, I recently came across news of a disabled woman who was brutally SA-assaulted in Oregon. heartbreaking and unacceptable tragedy. Violent occurrences like these highlight the increasing challenges we face under the current administration As an advocate for survivors, I am unwavering in my commitment to stand by those affected and continue the fight for justice. Although I often feel limited in what I can express due to censorship, I remain steadfast in using my voice for good. Thank you once again for your dedication and the meaningful work you do. It inspires and supports many, including myself.
And for y’all you married and women in relationships please do not act as though you are better then women who are deciding to stay single and childfree . Because you are marrying your oppressor. Good luck 🍀 and stay safe ❤
Karmic. Projection is crazy work. Listen, there are those who do know God and us who do have discernment so we know exactly what we are doing. Just because you chose to discontinue your cursed ass bloodline you want to shame somebody lmao Sit down, peasant. The 4b movement is definitely for you, you don’t need a man and for you to be concerned about a married woman is jealousy at its finest. No good woman would fix her words to wish misery on others. Heathens always reveal themselves. Maybe it’s you who loves your oppressors and that’s your environment. There is nothing godly about you and the spells you speak. May you get what you deserve in life while speaking spells over generalizing peoples lives. Tired of you hyenas, stay lonely with each other. Maybe your soulmate is a woman because who would want to deal with a mouth like yours. We are also calling out witches, you might fall in that category. Who knows they might need to bring that shit back too. Have a nice life. Just don’t covet or envy what your neighbors have including the good godly man that you never found, worry about yourself and those wounds.
So basically everyone who is married has a bad husband. Seems like you have some deep issues. Not every man cheat no every ever woman cheats not every marriage is a failure. Chilling out.
1. This is NOT LAW. 2. If it becomes law 😖, it is NOT required. I looked up the text and the status of the bill online. It’s been read on the floor. No floor amendments, no subcommittees, no votes. In starting with Section 2, you skip the important part of Section 1, which is that it’s an OPTIONAL form of marriage. Do I think it’s gross? Yes. Can I imagine who would *voluntarily* enter into it? No. But I do think it’s important to be precise about what a law actually entails and what it doesn’t. I am admittedly a happily married woman. But I’m also a 19-year divorce attorney. In my state (VA) we’ve fought against super conservatives about rescinding no-fault divorces for way longer than the general public has been aware of. Ken Cucinelli was a state representative and state AG before he went into Trump’s org and started helping author Project 2025, and he spent his entire career in VA trying to dismantle no-fault divorces. It’s why we have some of the strictest ones.
You’re British, so surely you have access to the Oxford dictionary in English??? 🤔 A covenant is literally just an agreement. Yes, it’s the word translated into the KJV bible (and other subsequent translations/interpretations) but it isn’t “religious”specifically. It’s used within the legal context of an agreement between 2 or more parties.
@galaxylucia1898 Oh, I know what it means, it's just the connotation I suppose. We don't really term it that way. Usually just a 'marriage agreement/contract'. To be honest though, neither of those sound good to me either 😅
@@galaxylucia1898Except they're right. This "covenant marriage" thing IS a religious concept. The wording and the stipulations are based from far right religious people's fantasy of marriage.
@@amberinthemist7912covenant means to keep i.e using one of the ten commandments of the Bible as an example thou shalt not covenant thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's ox or anything that belongs to thy neighbor Under that context it's basically using the word covenant in place of the work keep or take I don't see the issue it's literally just old words with A similar meaning to a word that exists in today's time don't see how it is inherently rooted in Spirituality
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Hi sis ❤ hi everyone 👋🏾 yes it begins it's best women stay single over these next 4 years especially when it comes it marriage and child rearing - dangerous times ! Stay single and go 4B don't marry these men !
Women are often told not to tell the judge there is abuse cause he is more likely to give custody of the kids to the husband than if she ever mentioned it. 😢
Probably because DV rates are high with Police. There was a case in Neptune NJ where a cop took out his wife in front of his fellow cops, child and bystanders. I was home and heard the gunfire a couple blocks over. They did nothing while he emptied the clip and reloaded to make sure. Don't trust the police at all.
I got my tubes tied overseas. I recommend it to every American woman who values her bodily autonomy and financial freedom. Do your research and do not allow a man to trap you and ruin your life.
@@staciegirlie This comment sums up the average level of understanding in this comment section. Both have to sign the *same* agreement. Each party puts their terms into *one* agreement.
This is madness! I’m glad I’m not married and not going to be in a legal way. Me and my guy call ourselves spouses and we don’t need legal recognition. This system is nuts and getting nuttier by the day. 🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜 My question is what are all the adulterous people that are in the church going to do? If they go all Old Testament then they may bring back stoning adulterers! 😂
The abandonment clause creates an incentive for men to refuse to leave the marital property. Most people realize in a separation that the wife and kids should stay in the home until the divorce is finalized and assets divided. The kids need stability and the wife is usually the primary caregiver. This bill is terrible.
You just motivated me to stop procrastinating and file for divorce. We've been separated for five years, there's no reason to delay one more day. Thank you.
Let’s not forget. You don’t have to stay in this country. I intend to leave in 2-3 years. America is but one country. Travel. Grab your passport and leave. You’d be surprised that yes they have lied to you. This is Not the best country on earth. There’s so much more ❤
@@lifeisfunny6486 it should only affect them then. Not all of us. We didnt vote for a pedo or government of Epstein buddies. All these and the sadistic Christian nationals being slick and wanting us dead instead of married kinda confuses a person to wrap your mind around all this hell on earth created by humans to bring on an illusional apocalypse so they can scare people into marry little kids and destroying everyone all at the same time.
@BrandonTimmons-km4hi it's only a problem when you force people to marry when they don't want to be married. If a female doesn't want to marry you don't think she will be cohearsed into it and be ok. If marriage isn't about love then it isn't a real marriage. It's a prison for her and a heavy responsibility for him.
Don't forget it's extremely easy for someone to drag out the divorce process, so even if you file right now you may be too late. I'm 2yrs into getting a divorce and I don't expect to finish anytime soon. It may already be too late for many of us. 😢
I grew up in a church that practiced this type of marriage wherever they legally could, and were bound by it within our churches even in states without this type of legally binding marriage. It’s a huge part of fundamental evangelical Christianity.
As an atheist I always felt like it would be weird to get married and shit like this reminds me why. Wtf are non-Christians supposed to do with covenant marriage?
I’ve got no idea but based on my childhood experience I suspect these extremists don’t care. Some of the nice ones probably sincerely believe they’re doing you a favour. The worst of them want you to either convert (and more importantly conform) or be tortured for eternity… Some merely accept the latter as an unfortunate but ultimately fair reality, others would prefer the latter and they quite enjoy recreating it here on earth
I live in Oklahoma. I'm so happy that I took the stance of anti-marriage. I have never married. IDC what these people think. I am all about pointing out their hypocrisy. Haha! I was in an 18 year relationship and never married. I refuse to be dependent on a man. I have discouraged my kids from marriage. It's a bs trap. Patriarchy society is not even close to respecting women. I don't tolerate their lies. My last name is just as good as any man's last name. ❤
My parents had a "fault" divorce. My mom had to call the cops everytime he hit her,she had to hire a private detective to follow him,she had to file orders of protection and really prove her case. It was not ideal to have my dad in jail where he could not make money to support his five kids and his bitterness and resentment built. The were divorced in 97 and he still hates her because she HAD to ruin his life. She did not have a choice to just say "no fault" she had to have the paper trail. There divorce took almost a decade from start to finish
I worry that something happening like this will increase murder in marriages! There’s already statistics showing how common it is for a man or woman to kill their spouse for various reasons rather than just divorce them bc of the stigma behind divorce and also the possibility of paying alot of child support and alimony. Now it will be harder/ almost impossible to leave when the wife is in danger or when the husband doesn’t want the wife anymore! I wish the government would separate themselves from things like this! Life is hard enough!
COVENANT MARRIAGE FOR THE WIN! LETS GO!!! Yawl are just mad that men have the ability to screen out women that view marriage as temporary. Praise God for giving us hope.
Idk man, it was very clear that it wasn’t going to actually happen, because why wait so late. And then when they mentioned trump Ijust knew it was apart of his plan.and sadly now a good chunk of people are just casually forgetting how trashy of a person he is
Another issue this will raise. I am in school to become an LMFT. Licensed therapists are not advised to see couples conjointly if there are certain types of abuse in the relationship because it can cause further harm. Thus, if that type of abuse is present, the couple will not be able to receive licensed care that counts as "couples counseling". Only individual therapy for both parties. They would need to see a less qualified person like clergy who are known to have a strong bias toward making bad or abusive marriages work. Scary
Spoiler Alert!
For those in the cheap seats who think these fascist principles won't impact them:
"If they take me in the morning, they're coming for you tonight..."
-- Sister Angela Davis
Yup... There was no one left to notice when they came for us
Truth. The fact women have been jailed for miscarriage is unthinkable. This is the next step.
Great point.....
Just a reminder... Hitler's "Thousand Year Reich" only lasted 12 years. The Nazis totally destroyed THEIR OWN COUNTRY with their authoritarian fascist and oligarchic insanity. Half of Germany was ripped away and given to the Soviets/Russians, and Germany was reunited ONLY by the fluke of the collapse of the authoritarian dictatorial reign of the Russians (who then installed ANOTHER authoritarian tyrant over themselves).
This will never happen in California. Ever Ever
Don’t forget that a few months ago they made it illegal to go through someone else’s phone. So you can’t even prove cheating by using evidence from your spouse‘s phone, which would normally be a primary source.
Don't forget that with some women agreeing to be stay at home wives, it's also hard to hire a PI to gather the evidence for them. I won't be surprised if some women just disappear in the middle of the night just to get away.
They gotta hide their child corn
Who made it illegal to go through your spouse's phone?
You can still spend thousands of dollars (that most people cannot afford) to stalk your spouse and gather evidence. So rich people will still be fine.
@@KiraBKADestroyerOfWorlds Texas law makers. 😩
I live in Oklahoma, but I'm 4B. My two female cousins: 1 54 and never married & 1 50 who is divorced, were shocked I have no desire to marry & that I should pray for God to send me a husband. My response "If he wanted me to have one he would have sent me one decades ago when I was still open to dating." I don't understand how they could be sad for me for not having something they also don't have.
I just learned about 4B last year, but I've been living the 4B lifestyle for 8 yrs. Nah, at 45 I'm good; I've been single the majority of life anyway.
I had to chuckle at your comment…when I learned about 4B I was like: huh…so there’s an actual name for it now? 😂
59 here, never married, childfree, been fully 4B for almost 12 years now. In my 20s I thought I’d been raised wrong but now I’m beyond thankful for parents who taught me I was meant for more than to be some man’s “helpmeet.” (I wasn’t raised in the church and a big reason was because they WERE.)
Instead of wasting my time beating myself up because I didn’t “fit in” I wish I’d grabbed onto my freedom with both hands and rode it as far as it would take me. Fortunately I’m still alive and in reasonably good health…which means it’s not too late…
@@LBellatrix My parents were also raised religious and thus raised me secular. I was married when I was 23, he was almost 13 years older than me. I got divorced after 10 years. I saw someone for about 4 years after that, but didn't live together. Once I was done with the BS in that relationship I have been single ever since. I'm 58 now and am so glad. People are always so amazed and baffled that I don't at least want to date. No way, too much effort goes into what the guy wants and it has never been reciprocated. So it isn't worth the time and effort. I love having my life as MY life.
Should have used some of that time alone to go to the gym
@@kellyfowler6426 I was accused of being “too picky” AND at the same time I was told to “pick better” (basically I wasn’t picky enough). Once I realized my odds were so poor, I dropped out entirely. My biggest goal now is to be able to live my remaining years in peace. If a man can’t add to that, I don’t need him.
lol was anyone checking for yall in the first place though?
Stay single, dont get pregnant. Thats the only way to go now. Thx god im too old for all this stuff.
I'm so glad I'm to old for this too. I've had my children and marriages. I've been done with relationships. Any time someone tries to talk to me I gladly say, "I'm 54, I'm too old."
I had my tubes removed so I don't have to worry about pregnancy and I have ZERO interest in marriage. I'm good.
Tubes tied 10 years ago and not interested in dating, men , or marriage
@akinazara lol...no uterus here.
@@gemjournals I wanted my doctor to remove my tubes, eggs, and uterus..I was 28 when it was done ...
Just had my divorce finalized in November. In NC I had to have a one year separation. This bill is terrifying. I went the cheapest route and did an online package instead of any lawyers or mediators because we didn’t really have any assets and he wasn’t fighting me. It was still expensive and divorce is already out of reach logistically and financially for so many women. This added burden of a preponderance of evidence is so arcane and will trap so many victims of abuse. Ladies- DONT GET MARRIED. There is not enough of an upside to sacrifice your freedom for some man who probably wants a wife appliance.
If you're married, can't you just use the mand money to pay for a divorce.
@@lifeis2171I've outearned every man I've ever dated. Many women outearn men now days, loose that sterotype.
Provide evidence by calling the police. So many women do not have evidence because they do not report what happens to them.
Best advice. Ever!
@@lifeis2171 financial abuse is a problem with a lot of marriages. She may not have access to her husband's money.
MILLIONS of people stayed home instead of voting.
Not just the ones who stayed home but also to the people who voted for the wrong party. The 2024 Presidential Election had nothing to do with policies but everything to do with every civilian not having their freedoms and rights being taken away. Now, we've entered into a time where hundreds of millions of lives are in literal danger.
Yup.
Complete idiots.
A full third, from what I understand.
🤬😭
I got my uterus and ovaries removed 15 years ago. I'm widowed and divorced. The only safe option now is to never marry again.
Same here! Widowed and divorced too. Going 4B.
At least if you plan to stay in the USA
Even those of us not married they'll surely be trying to roll back time to when we can't own a house or have a bank or credit card. 😓
Thinking realistically if they have banned abortion and are making it harder to get contraceptives they will most likely ban getting tubes tied and many other operations that inhibit birth beforehand. What gets me is that if any of these politicians and the rich wanted to get any of this stuff done once it's outlawed they still can because they have the connections and the funds to do so in a safe and sterile environment. History repeats itself
@@lizilizi1 hell will freeze over before we go back to that. I would take up arms. No doubt.
all this means is fewer people will choose to marry.
And less women will opt for not having children. It's not safe in so many ways. This will have the op opposite effect of what they try to achieve. Let's be honest, they want more White babies..
This is why they will lower the age of
Marriage so that more young and naive young ladies in their teens get trapped in marriage contract just like student loans 😢
They'll be coming for birth control, next.
@@Jac527 Yes because one of these red states was pushing to lower the age of consent. I always knew the people yelling the loudest about "protecting the children" were the true pedo's
@@Jac527 I believe OK is one of the states challenging abortion drugs as directly harming then because they need pregnant teens to boost population for their representation in Congress
I'm so glad I'm a travel nurse with a compact license. I always have an out. I'll just leave/disappear. I have no problem starting over in another state if my spouse starts acting like a fool.
My boyfriend has been pressuring me to sell my RV, but I'm like, no, sir. That's my residence in case you want to get crazy with me.
Lollipop, you are my inspiration because I, too, want to travel around but have my career ready in case crazy men go crazy. Also, an RV is an intelligent move since climate change and all.
Glad you are holding that boundary because it truly is impossible to know what you don't know.
🎉And dont have or adopt kids with him either!!!😢 Trust me….stay single & DO NOT COHABITATE with him!!!
So SO smart. Keep your options open.
Also, why “sell” the RV? Cause couldn’t you just store it? It would make more sense to store it for 6 months and have a lil trial move in with him.
Leave him. If he’s pressing you about it then he doesn’t respect you and your boundaries… those men cannot be trusted. Leave him.
Divorced and tubes tied. Single is my relationship status. Stay safe out there ladies.
Same you too ❤
Divorced DEC 6th 2024! Glad it’s over and sending hugs and love to any ladies that got their Divorce FINAL! ❤
Yaaaaas! Congrats on your freedom. all of the positive vibes and good wishes 🪄
Congratulations 🎊!!!! ❤❤❤
Congratulations and love to you ❤
Congratulations my friend ❤🎉❤
Congratulations Hun!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
In Oklahoma, the age of consent is 16 and it is still difficult to prosecute statutory r. Not only that, marriage with parental consent is allowed and they are in the top 5 states with the highest child marriages per capita. Let's not pretend that every woman or child has a choice. Many girls clearly do not, and now more who are forced into marriages won't be able to escape.
ETA: This affects white girls the LEAST. Texas has the highest percentage of child marriages. If you think these laws won't reach you or your community, you're wrong. Finally, I dont care that you're not interested but you're exposing yourselves as ignorant. If you're not interested move along, not the video or comment for you.
We gotta press on these OK parents to protect their kids, especially from those creepy "family friends". Education and questioning long held "traditions" usually wakes folks up.
@@Callimounfortunately education and questioning only wakes up people who are willing to change. All those children are in danger because while they might want change, the systemic lack of education means many of their parents and their lawmakers might not 😢
@shaynaconde True. Short of actively yoinking those kids from their abusive households, at least getting the info out there starts a conversation instead of keeping it a "family secret".
In 2024 the lawmakers failed to increase the age of consent to 18 (initially receiving majority approval) because they tried to ban most childhood marriages at the same time (Senate Bill 615). There were other issues with the bill pertaining to limiting prosecution based on age difference, but in any case this shows that lawmakers are unwilling to protect children. Concerning the parents, not only do they not protect their kids, they actually punish girls by forcing them to marry the person who hurt them because of purity culture. We can't wait for the culture to change, legislation should be leading the way. Even if the culture needs time to catch up, it's up to the state/ country etc to enforce child protection laws. Expecting individuals to change at a fast enough rate is unrealistic.
The only thing we can do is encourage women to go 4B and teach their daughters - OK is a religious Bible state
At this point, it's best to stay single.
Edit:I remember reading in the comments section of a video that the same(or similar) thing happened back then. Before no fault divorce. Let's just say...there were less women...
And maybe consider tyintubes??😊
True the self-deletion rate went WAY down for women after no-fault divorce came into effect. Forcing women to stay in horrible marriages is not about family values. It is just more oppression.
@@tinyshepherdess7710
Also fewer husbands had fatal "accidents" or 'illnesses" and women no longer needed to purchase Acqua Tofana after no fault divorce became the law 😉
@@tinyshepherdess7710exactly.
@@tinyshepherdess7710 Not just self-deletion, but partner-initiated deletion would be an issue. Women divorce for reasons. Sometimes, emotional and financial abuse escalate into worse even without prior physical abuse.
I used to think I wanted to get married.
Until I realized what marriage really is. Marriage is just a piece of paper that says a man owns me. And my properties.
I'm not getting married anymore.
Yep, you're an indentured servant to the man
Yes. If you have more than that man and he isn’t worth anything tangible, it wouldn’t really mean anything. Too many women marry just ANYBODY and then wonder what the point was. It’s good to research and know the person you are dealing with/ your assets before going into it.
& it’s fine not to do it but we shouldn’t be giving them babies without it either. Women must get their money up and go to a donor (If having a baby is a MUST for them). A man that isn’t worth committing to. Probably isn’t worth being a father either. 😅😴
Been married twice.
Can confirm.
Exactly
It's also slavery marriage is for the male the wedding is for the Woman
Just don’t get married facing your abuser in court is not a pleasant experience and sometimes they make you wait in the same waiting room and the clerks don’t give a shit if you barely got away with your life when u ended the relationship
😬
This is why I didn’t get a restraining order against my ex. They make you wait in the same room yes and then you face your abuser IRL in court.
@@Chitownbabe417back in 2013 when I left my ex husband, I didn't have to do anything like that. But I did in '21with my ex bf. It was terrible
This. I had to endure that exact fkn scenario
Having to continuously be around them during all that is why people didn't believe it "was that bad". Because for sure, they'd be acting crazy in those scenarios and I'd be shaking like a leaf, freaking out as well, right?
Absolutely TF not... I live in a blue state and I want no part of this...
Same
me too.
@slartibartfast2452 I actually am a married woman, and my husband is instantly weirded out by men who support this.
swing state leaning blue rn. i'm staying single
@DeannaBaileytheRavensFan will you divorce before July just in case? And stay together but not legally tied?
They will do anything for us to stay married, stay miserable, and keep the offering plate going around!
Why are you getting married if you think it will make you miserable????
@ There was a time, not too long ago, when marriage was a woman’s only means of survival. And women had no rights, not to vote, not to earn her own money. It was as recent as the 1980’s that a woman could get a checking account in her own name. That’s why we used to have to marry, but we don’t have to now…and we’re not going back.
@@OneNiftyBoiUmm buddy where did read/hear that she was getting married?
@@LuShanna She mentioned "stay" twice in regards to marriage.
Anyway, we agree with ya'll. Don't get married, leave it to those who want that husband & wife lifestyle. Makes the dating pool less of a headache to maneuver.
Stop telling others that marriage is miserable, no one's looking for a servant or slave, there are healthy adults out here looking to build respectable generations together.
@@OneNiftyBoi if you uave to force people to stay in a relationship with you that is slavery and abuse. Stop lying and trying to get women to fall for it. You want women to get married and be unable to leave or have autonomy over themselves? You are out of your mind.
Never married. So I'll just listen to the comments of women who get "trapped!"
Trapped is the best word to describe it that’s for sure.
Married and divorced twice and single currently. Will definitely be looking at the comments as well.
Same, girl. I dont get kicks out of seeing women get trapped though 🫤
Me being a single cat 🐈 lady just watching this in her peaceful house, avoiding all these shitnanigans.
But don't give them sex too. Free easy sex is better than marriage for them .
I remember a comment from a woman years ago which said that the rich people in her circles were having ceremonies/receptions but no marriage license/government involvement. They would get their lawyers to write up a relationship contract for them instead. That's the only kind of "marriage" I would agree to now.
I love that idea, relationship contract!
I have been looking for something like this. I've bee against traditional marriage for at least 10 years. That's a happy medium that could work.
I think this is the way I’d like to do it
America is becoming one of the worst countries to be living in right now.
Why would any sane person accept to be married under these conditions??
My conclusion is that with Trump he might start forcing Christianity on to people and in turn, harden their hearts. I actually think it’s by design for something sinister planned.🤔
Keyword: sane
Most people are actually very insane and "in love" with illusions
@Duhgel Yo do have a point.
Why get married if you have plans to leave? The law wants to *preserve* marriage. The average marriage ends for very frivolous reasons.
@@BrandonTimmons-km4hiso the laW wants to prohibit humans from using their free will and ability to change their minds by forcing them to stay in marriages? Got it lol.
People who think this will cause people to take "marriage" more seriously are haplessly proud and idiotic. I grew up in the Bible Belt going to the baptist church with parents who love one another. But my parents were RARE in the church and still are to this day. Their dynamic vs the one that was the norm in the church was Night and Day, the Desert and the Ocean, Fire and Ice. I saw lifeless marriages and hate-filled marriages and hollow marriages flock around my parents jealously since I was young.
I watched abusive and vile people be supported by the church because divorce had such a stigma around it. The Bible allows for divorce. Patriarchy does not unless it is the man who wants out. Men on aggregate are the abusers in relationships. The statistics don't lie. Anti-freedom and Puritans with pharisaical morons want marriage to be a bear trap, especially for women, they historically always have. Because fundies are less about the teachings of God and all about their Stepford Wife country club mega church status quo being maintained. They will only punish women and never hold men accountable. And if a man is not marriage material or fit at all to be a husband they will expect some 'good hearted woman' to make him so. They will expect women to fix him. But his issues are between him and his maker. They are his responsibility. But one Patriarchy will blasphemously never force him to bear.
This!!!!! It’s might cause a lot of unaliving .
Times have changed and the stigma of not being married has disappeared except from extremely religious communities. This is dangerous for women and I hope they choose themselves.
All of what you said is true. I'm still very much confused as to why American "Christian" doctrine preaches that marriage is a be all, end all act that all must adhere to when the Bible says the opposite. Singlehood is valued over marriage because it gives the woman (mostly) and men the freedom to do ministerial work for however long they desire. Once a woman gets married, her focus shifts to that of her household. Marriage, according to the Apostle Paul were for the folks who couldn't contain their lusts and they were encouraged to find like minded people
Can I use this quote? It’s so well expressed
I've witnessed this as well. No longer attend, church, no longer married and staying that way
This is some scary shit. Don't get married ladies! It's not worth the risk. Live together. Marriage is not necessary. Make your own money. Have a backup plan.
Don't even live together. Some states can consider you common law married if you live together for a certain period of time. (Don't get mail at his house either.) Spend as much time as you want over at his place, but retain your own domicile so that if his mask falls off, you have somewhere to go to get away from him.
@@risitascositas1699At this point, this is all that makes sense. Even living with them is too risky 😮💨
The best advice.
Nope, don’t live with a man. Dv happens a lot to women who live with men. A man is still a man despite any relationship status even a brother, or uncle doesn’t live with them!!!
No, stop living together. Get property in your name. Start the investment now.
Yeah. I told my kids... ceremonies only, no paperwork.... You don't owe society a show and you don't want to back yourself into an unseen corner for anyone..
I thought the ceremony is the “show” 🤔
Or just don’t marry at all? Why stage a ceremony? Tell them to stay single and live their lives. That’s the best way
It's not society,it's legality.
@@lordgrim355 your view is heavily biased. not everyone wants to stay single regardless of the political state
@ trust me if most ppl actually tried to do this. We’d literally get rid of all these issues ppl have now. Leave each other alone. Then there won’t be any complaints
As time goes on the less and less I desire to get married.
You aren’t missing anything
Don't. If you are thinking about an exit before even getting married. Just don't.
At 7 minutes those are yours and othe women that get divorced arguments for leaving a marriage oh there so much I want to say about your entire argument is false with receipt to show ur incorrect.
@johnedgley7322 This comment section is the female version of redpill. It is really sad how far apart we are.
I'm 47, never married, child free, and had a hysterectomy 14 years ago. I've never been more thankful for my life choices.
Yes, your life choices have paid off
💯💯💯💯
it's insane,
All cute till they create a law that taxes old people without children and deny/ reduce your social security.
We are thankful as well. Some people should not procreate.
When people ask me if I'm married, i always tell them 'I don't marry people'.
When they ask why i say 'bc I'm not an idiot ......... No offense' (they are usually married 😂😂😂)
More women need to do the same
@Meow4B 💯
@@Meow4B😊
Lol. I tell them why would I want such an unfortunate state???
That's pretty much my response
You just have to find a man who actually wants to be a faithful husband and active father it's simple! Most women don't want to get married because they can't meet a good man or a man who actually wants marriage. So it's easy to say you don't want marriage when there are ZERO prospects. I got married in my 20s and I'm STILL happily married 3 children later.
This is just motivating me to stay single. Time to invest in toys.
Get those now before they get banned too
One word, LELO
Amen. When I get paid this week, I'm going bizzerrk buying them
@@theluminarysoul Even if they are banned, they can't ban our hands, coconut oil, or any of the materials that can be used to make our own toys with a light time investment.
Could also plan to not be in the US soon enough. Get your money up, girlies.
Stay 4 B no matter how cute he is. SERIOUSLY 😐
We all know that most men don't fully disclose everything that's pertinent prior to marrying someone.
And y’all will still marry men. Stop binding yourself to men
lol just men?
@@HeliosDarks since when are women hiding whole families, babies and pretending to be safe? Who are you trying to lie too?
@thosewhocare2427 Right?! Look at this idiot. WOMEN ARE PERFECT AND CAN DO, HAVE DONE, AND WILL MEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG. I just don't even understand how to communicate that to these misogynistic men anymore.
I agree! Like putting it on the table that they're unable to last in bed. Or that their 🍆 is so dead,it only needs a casket!! So,women must stay married under that??? It's time to be an expat !
We just reverted back to 1920s . Women have no independence, force to stay in abusive marriages. Gracism * was high and old money ran the world . That was when so called America was great again .
Up next handmaids Tale . 😢
Those laws were only technically ratified in 2007- it doesn’t have long legal precedence, so that gives them an opportunity to attack it.
States had to sign to ratify; 38 were required.
you talk like women don't abuse men... selfish
BTW those handmaid's dresses are atrocious!!!😂
Lol the last 50 years have been hell for men. Women were suppose to be sweethearts but we learning quickly they never liked men. You guys wanted to have men's power. Marriage is not a trap if you don't have hidden motives. If a man provides everything and you turn around and divorce because you aren't happy then you are to blame. Most women are doing bare minimum these days in marriages. You watch your dumb reality shows and think you deserve million dollar home or figure income. Women are delusional and irresponsible. You guys don't take accountability at all and now have corrupted many generations of women to disrespect male authority. Feminism proved women are never to be trusted with leadership.
@@Goddess_Infinity I can imagine a lot of women opting for suicide instead of marriage.
I had a school friend got married in her early 20's Catholic church required pre marriage counseling. Priest told she had to stayarried even if her husband abused her. This new rule they say will allow divorce if SA or physical abuse is proved. However, their idea of (proof) involves discouraging women reporting it it, If they they manipulate and gaslight her to say, was it really abuse, are you sure? Reminds of Islamic law where a woman can only prove rape os she has 2 male witnesses to prove it WTF!! But if any passing stranger acuses her of anything especially adultery, it is is automatic stoning. The fuck
If I was told some shit like that, I would've walked. out right there
That's horrible. I learned a Catholic woman was allowed divorce by her diocese, they annulled her marriage, and let her get away from her abusive spouse. I think that if men mask their true colors and become abusive after marriage, this might be categorized as fraud.
Why would anyone seek out pre marriage counseling from a bunch of men who have never gotten married or from an institution where sexual abuse of minors is rampant?
What you said about Islamic law is not true at all. Stop spreading false info. If she was accused of any kind of adultery, they would still need the witnesses. Word alone is not enough to accuse her of adultery.
My sister got married in the Catholic Church. She had to take the classes
That did not stop her from leaving him once he turned abusive
He abused her during the night. She and her stuff were gone by the time he came home from work the next day
This sounds like another version of slavery. 😮😮😢😢
That's what it always was until the 70s
Marriage is slavery
It is.
It IS.
I read somewhere that marriage was the oldest version.
Authoritarians are alike all over. Where one is successful, the others are taking notes.
I also saw in a BurbNBougee video that OK introduced legislation to limit homeless shelters to only cities that have a population of 300,000 or more, which would mean just two cities in that entire state. And who is most likely to end up needing access to a homeless shelter? 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
@Meow4B Oooooooh yes, I remember seeing that. Absolutely revolting. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢 But at this point, I'm not at all surprised that the organization could pull that off, even if it does violate the First Amendment. Like Shayna said, separation of church and state was an optical illusion to begin with.
There's a video on here that truly rewired my brain called Always A Bigger Fish. It's by Innuendo Studios, I cannot recommend it enough. But one of the points he makes is that the reason conservatives like the idea of Capitalism is that they see it as a Darwinian proving ground where only the "worthy" survive. I think the same logic applies here. Because anybody who opposes the forced religious practice is gonna be met with BuT iT's NoT tHaT bIg Of A dEaL because they're "only being asked to sit in church a couple times a week" in exchange for life-saving shelter. And if they're not willing to accept that "small" request, then they must not care that much about being alive. Exactly like Jesus preached. 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
These things are so wicked….it’s not possible they are human and I am sooo hateful of the ones who reproduced them in droves.
Every law is a piece of the larger puzzle...AI will be eliminating lots of jobs, but mass deportation opens up jobs that no one else wants... Crashing the economy causes people to lose their homes and be desperate for work... Homeless people can be arrested... And we allow prison labor... It just goes on and on...
@@Meow4B That is exactly what they are doing. It is absolutely unconstitutional, but with the current hard core fundie supreme court there is no redress.
@@brandya7341 in the Bible Jesus said somewhere that you should never believe a person preaching from a pulpit or in a house or by those who want you to worship publicly. It is supposed to be a private thing between you and God. Alone.
Is oklahoma also the state that forced the woman to do was called reunion therapy with her police husband who was sexually assaulting the kids and they made her go to therapy where she and the kids had apologized and because she said she wasn't going to do it she got arrested
I think that was in Colorado
Colorado.
That's fucking sick!
wtf 😮 !!!
@@MN-hv5xvcrazy men everywhere.
All the women who voted for Trump will scratch their head when the policies effect them personally. Sorry for those who voted for Kamala Harris.
I will never marry again. Cat lady for life ❤
I have no plans of dating or marrying in the US anymore. Not when this is happening
Yikes. Good luck married women.
-Sincerely, Forever Single 🙏🏾
I’m not in Oklahoma but with this insane government that has started today and all of the knowledge I have learned in the past year I will not marry period!!
Things were not better under Biden. Things just got expensive af under him.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 for choosing yourself.
This bill isn't going to stick for long. It's a direct violation of the separation of church and state. No section of the American government can force its citizens to follow any church or it's "laws". I forsee a lot lawsuits being filed against Oklahoma
I hope you are correct. But this organization is trying to eliminate the separation of church and state.
Plus this Trump appointed Supreme Court will definitely fuck us all over.
@mushmouth610 i know I'm right. Fascism and church control, historically, has never prevailed. There are far too many different individuals with different lives that will not bow down to this new president or his cult. Power to the people!
Idk man I can totally see this sticking around for more religious based states. If the abortion laws can stay I have a good feeling the same states with those imposed will keep the marriage one.
@tsarinastevens9447 disagree. I understand it all looks very bleak, but American women beat this Christian based BS before, and we'll beat again! Religious beliefs have no legal bearing on human cuvil rights. Period. Done. Case closed. Stay vigilant 🫶
So, does OK not realize that marriages in the state will now plummet?
I wonder how they would react if that happens 🤔
They will just lower the age to get married just like 1920s 😢
@Jac527 that would be illegal to lower the age any further and plus parents would have to sign off for their MINOR to get married. So the masses are just going to be in agreement with PDFs now? Absolutely not.
Force women to marry would be the next logical step for them.
Not child marriages
I've been telling people that what happens in Mississippi will happen to America
What happens in Mississippi.. I wonder why they are forcing marriage. I feel like it has something to do with money.But I still can't put the nail on it..
@@lifeis2171They’re trying to create and sustain a underclass.
@@lifeis2171ppl are not as desperate and asleep if they dont have to be focused on taking care of dependents. Also kids are the future slaves, i mean workforce.
I’m from AL I say the same thing too
Oh wow. I’ve never been married (I called off my one and only engagement) and I never will choose to do so at this rate.
Perfect. Nobody get married then. They wanna play. Lets play!
This is why you gotta start purging the government. You cant just take this stuff sitting down
I think I will remain single and just get a cat. This is ridiculous and sad how women’s right are being taken away.
Crazy cat ladies rules! Welcome, sister!
Welcome to the cat 🐈 club 🎉
I am so honored you guys. 😊
I have a bird 🐦
@@staceyford6733 That can work - dogs, 🐶 chickens, 🦎... Anything but XYs
This is so terrible. I feel like no woman should marry for the next 4 years or have children 🤔
I'm free!!! Never been shackled 🎉🎉
The times we live in are so freakin scary rn
its gonna be a long 4 years!
My boyfriend and I talked about it and we decided we're not getting married unless it to protect each other rights. We are in our 40s we're not having any children together. We are happy single on paper living together.
I hope it stays that way for you, happy together, no problems, no paper 💫
i got my tubes tied. I'm a lesbian but not taking any chances.
😂😂😂
This comment sums up the average mindset in the comment section for this video. Even the video itself. She's mad that they want evidence for a legal preceding. Imagine that...
What I'm worried about is that down the line, how does Project 2025 "punish" childless women who had their tubes tied? Will we now have to deal with not only forced birth, but forced reversal of tubal litigation? Would a hysterectomy be the only safe way to avoid a forced breeding program (it in project 2025 ) to boost birth rates. Handmaids tale is here.....this is sick ning
Im almost convinced women need to be protected from themselves and their decisions because the women in 95% of these comments are reckless, immature and spiteful af. Smdh @@BrandonTimmons-km4hi
Oklahoma really out here trying to be the new Utah.
It's competition with Texas on who can become the closest to Gilead first 🙄😥
Once one state does something like this other states are like "😮 we didn't know we could do that😮" and I live in a blue state but sometimes votes in a Republican governor... I'll stay single.
Get your tubes tied or get an arm implant. Get a 🌹 with H20 based lube. Get your CCW if you haven’t already and learn how to be good with one weapon.
We are officially in The Handmaids Tale.
It's best to stay single and not married at this point
@@LilithsCosmicLoungeBoom that's it
Thank you for doing this important journalism and activism during this time. My heart is heavy.
Seeing a lawyer next week and filing as soon as I can.
Wishing you the best with the process 🫂
Sending serious prayers up for strength and for everything to go smoothly
Hey can anyone married tell me why it doesn't work. I'm early 30s never married and I thought I wanted to, but can someone tell me why I shouldn't? Cuz it seems to be the smartest thing logically, but the lonelier thing emotionally
Abuse violations are going to become much more violent. This is truly terrifying.
No they are not. Stop it.
And they're upset at the low birth rates now, they finna really be shocked at the lack of marriages lmao
@@magicalmomo9987 there is no low birth rate. It's all made up so they can do what they want.
Well men don't benefit from marriage women the government and institutions do. I don't think men will be hurt from not having to have a divorce Sprung on them and lose half of their valuables and finances and get put on Alimony and child support. 😊
This is the plan. No marriage and no children especially for minorities. Ye all better wake up. It is the opposite. Whatever they say IT IS THE OPPOSITE
Good stop having kids Muslims will replace you
So thankful I've never been married!!!
Amen to that
Men are too. I doubt if this decision came by your own choice.
So Oklahoma became the fourth state to add this type of marriage. I feel sorry for the wives being talked into this.
So glad I'm divorced. But I'm having to beg my patriarchal daughter not to get married. 😥
At least you told her. In the end you got to stop begging. Show her the consequences and let go. Everyone has to walk their own path. ❤
Patriarchal daughter? What happened there?
@@strawberryfox8819misandrist trying to convince daughter who has a fresh mind that hasn't been corrupt By the All men bad narrative is All that's happened here from the sounds of it 😂
Let her make her own decisions and live her life, not be influenced by your life choices. Begging her notbto make her own choices is overboard, controlling and disturbing.
10:39 its a federal felony if you take screenshots if their texts without them knowing. 🤮 just a reminder.
Yep. Any evidence on their phones or tablets can't be used as evidence because of privacy laws. They're really making it hard for women.
But it is hopeless if you never got the needed records by the hearing. @@Meow4B
On their phone or on your phone?
Are you serious? When did this start? Can you screenshot screens? Like a dating profile?
I gotta research this, with my messy ass 😂😂😂
If that's true is was a Biden policy.
Yea i'm never getting married
Lower the number of calories you consume and you can. But I doubt that will happen. Keep telling yourself that it is your choice. It is not.
@BrandonTimmons-km4hi lol men are more desperate to get in womens pants than vice versa keep coping
I want to take a moment to commend the incredible work that you do. It truly doesn’t go unnoticed and is deeply appreciated. The content you provide is impactful and thought-provoking.
It’s disheartening to witness the troubling events happening in our current climate. For example, I recently came across news of a disabled woman who was brutally SA-assaulted in Oregon. heartbreaking and unacceptable tragedy. Violent occurrences like these highlight the increasing challenges we face under the current administration
As an advocate for survivors, I am unwavering in my commitment to stand by those affected and continue the fight for justice. Although I often feel limited in what I can express due to censorship, I remain steadfast in using my voice for good.
Thank you once again for your dedication and the meaningful work you do. It inspires and supports many, including myself.
And for y’all you married and women in relationships please do not act as though you are better then women who are deciding to stay single and childfree . Because you are marrying your oppressor. Good luck 🍀 and stay safe ❤
Chillllee I’m making plans to GTFO now.
Karmic. Projection is crazy work.
Listen, there are those who do know God and us who do have discernment so we know exactly what we are doing.
Just because you chose to discontinue your cursed ass bloodline you want to shame somebody lmao
Sit down, peasant. The 4b movement is definitely for you, you don’t need a man and for you to be concerned about a married woman is jealousy at its finest.
No good woman would fix her words to wish misery on others. Heathens always reveal themselves. Maybe it’s you who loves your oppressors and that’s your environment. There is nothing godly about you and the spells you speak. May you get what you deserve in life while speaking spells over generalizing peoples lives. Tired of you hyenas, stay lonely with each other. Maybe your soulmate is a woman because who would want to deal with a mouth like yours.
We are also calling out witches, you might fall in that category.
Who knows they might need to bring that shit back too.
Have a nice life. Just don’t covet or envy what your neighbors have including the good godly man that you never found, worry about yourself and those wounds.
So basically everyone who is married has a bad husband. Seems like you have some deep issues. Not every man cheat no every ever woman cheats not every marriage is a failure. Chilling out.
Typical feminist nonesense😂
1. This is NOT LAW.
2. If it becomes law 😖, it is NOT required.
I looked up the text and the status of the bill online. It’s been read on the floor. No floor amendments, no subcommittees, no votes.
In starting with Section 2, you skip the important part of Section 1, which is that it’s an OPTIONAL form of marriage. Do I think it’s gross? Yes. Can I imagine who would *voluntarily* enter into it? No. But I do think it’s important to be precise about what a law actually entails and what it doesn’t.
I am admittedly a happily married woman. But I’m also a 19-year divorce attorney. In my state (VA) we’ve fought against super conservatives about rescinding no-fault divorces for way longer than the general public has been aware of. Ken Cucinelli was a state representative and state AG before he went into Trump’s org and started helping author Project 2025, and he spent his entire career in VA trying to dismantle no-fault divorces. It’s why we have some of the strictest ones.
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Great info!
I'm British, help me out. Why does covenant sound so religious? 😮
You’re British, so surely you have access to the Oxford dictionary in English??? 🤔
A covenant is literally just an agreement. Yes, it’s the word translated into the KJV bible (and other subsequent translations/interpretations) but it isn’t “religious”specifically. It’s used within the legal context of an agreement between 2 or more parties.
@galaxylucia1898 Oh, I know what it means, it's just the connotation I suppose. We don't really term it that way. Usually just a 'marriage agreement/contract'. To be honest though, neither of those sound good to me either 😅
It is absolutely used only in a religious way in the us. You are correct.
@@galaxylucia1898Except they're right. This "covenant marriage" thing IS a religious concept. The wording and the stipulations are based from far right religious people's fantasy of marriage.
@@amberinthemist7912covenant means to keep i.e using one of the ten commandments of the Bible as an example thou shalt not covenant thy neighbor's wife or thy neighbor's ox or anything that belongs to thy neighbor Under that context it's basically using the word covenant in place of the work keep or take I don't see the issue it's literally just old words with A similar meaning to a word that exists in today's time don't see how it is inherently rooted in Spirituality
I'm gonna document my own affair. 😂and say I'm never gonna be faithful. Bet they give that man a divorce
6:20 As someone coming from a state where hundreds of women can't convince the state that a doctor SAed them I don't like the implications of this
Regarding TT: If you have an iPhone, you can probably use a saved backup that you had with TT… like you’d do if you upgraded your phone. Download the previous backup.
Notification squad!! 🥳💖🤩
They went from limited government to a dictatorship. Anybody see this shit?
Hi sis ❤ hi everyone 👋🏾 yes it begins it's best women stay single over these next 4 years especially when it comes it marriage and child rearing - dangerous times ! Stay single and go 4B don't marry these men !
As im applying to go back to school, i will add law as an area of study. I will help women for free who want to leave their husbands
Judges and cops hardly ever take abuse of women or children seriously. Family court routinely gives custody to abusive fathers.
Women are often told not to tell the judge there is abuse cause he is more likely to give custody of the kids to the husband than if she ever mentioned it. 😢
Yep! I live in PA and can verify this! Truly disgusting
Probably because DV rates are high with Police. There was a case in Neptune NJ where a cop took out his wife in front of his fellow cops, child and bystanders. I was home and heard the gunfire a couple blocks over. They did nothing while he emptied the clip and reloaded to make sure. Don't trust the police at all.
@@beewest5704 This is not true. There are legal benefits in receiving a PO. They *teach it* in law school.
Tighten up Ladies! Safe, Single, Stress-free, master the ability to Sustain oneself. ❤
I got my tubes tied overseas. I recommend it to every American woman who values her bodily autonomy and financial freedom. Do your research and do not allow a man to trap you and ruin your life.
You guys live in a dystopia. Religious extremism, scary.
Why I left religion 20 something years ago
Don't get married. And get a solid pre-nup to protect yourself financially if you do. No pre-nup women. NO MARRIAGE.
I’ll sign a prenup but the husband will also have to sign a prenup
@@staciegirlie This comment sums up the average level of understanding in this comment section. Both have to sign the *same* agreement. Each party puts their terms into *one* agreement.
6:53 “peace out A-town down” I scareeemed!! 😂
This is madness! I’m glad I’m not married and not going to be in a legal way. Me and my guy call ourselves spouses and we don’t need legal recognition. This system is nuts and getting nuttier by the day. 🥜🥜🥜🥜🥜 My question is what are all the adulterous people that are in the church going to do? If they go all Old Testament then they may bring back stoning adulterers! 😂
Yeah but that’s just female genocide because how many cheating MEN have ever been held accountable???😡
The abandonment clause creates an incentive for men to refuse to leave the marital property. Most people realize in a separation that the wife and kids should stay in the home until the divorce is finalized and assets divided. The kids need stability and the wife is usually the primary caregiver.
This bill is terrible.
I'm single child free by choice and im am part of the 4bmovement from here on out till 2090 n beyond
You just motivated me to stop procrastinating and file for divorce. We've been separated for five years, there's no reason to delay one more day. Thank you.
Let’s not forget. You don’t have to stay in this country. I intend to leave in 2-3 years. America is but one country. Travel. Grab your passport and leave. You’d be surprised that yes they have lied to you. This is Not the best country on earth. There’s so much more ❤
That's exactly what I'm trying to do!!!
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This is a WW problem. they voted for their orange king and now he will make sure they stay in these marriages to create the new working class.
There are black women and black men who voted for Trump as well. So it's not just a white women problem.
@@lifeisfunny6486 it should only affect them then. Not all of us. We didnt vote for a pedo or government of Epstein buddies. All these and the sadistic Christian nationals being slick and wanting us dead instead of married kinda confuses a person to wrap your mind around all this hell on earth created by humans to bring on an illusional apocalypse so they can scare people into marry little kids and destroying everyone all at the same time.
Um have you seen the kangz that voted for him????
Making efforts to maintain and preserve marriage is a problem?
@BrandonTimmons-km4hi it's only a problem when you force people to marry when they don't want to be married. If a female doesn't want to marry you don't think she will be cohearsed into it and be ok. If marriage isn't about love then it isn't a real marriage. It's a prison for her and a heavy responsibility for him.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
Don't forget it's extremely easy for someone to drag out the divorce process, so even if you file right now you may be too late. I'm 2yrs into getting a divorce and I don't expect to finish anytime soon. It may already be too late for many of us. 😢
I grew up in a church that practiced this type of marriage wherever they legally could, and were bound by it within our churches even in states without this type of legally binding marriage. It’s a huge part of fundamental evangelical Christianity.
Outrageous!!!!
As an atheist I always felt like it would be weird to get married and shit like this reminds me why. Wtf are non-Christians supposed to do with covenant marriage?
I’ve got no idea but based on my childhood experience I suspect these extremists don’t care. Some of the nice ones probably sincerely believe they’re doing you a favour. The worst of them want you to either convert (and more importantly conform) or be tortured for eternity… Some merely accept the latter as an unfortunate but ultimately fair reality, others would prefer the latter and they quite enjoy recreating it here on earth
I live in Oklahoma. I'm so happy that I took the stance of anti-marriage. I have never married. IDC what these people think. I am all about pointing out their hypocrisy. Haha! I was in an 18 year relationship and never married. I refuse to be dependent on a man. I have discouraged my kids from marriage. It's a bs trap. Patriarchy society is not even close to respecting women. I don't tolerate their lies. My last name is just as good as any man's last name. ❤
Loving the coverage! Keep it up
My parents had a "fault" divorce. My mom had to call the cops everytime he hit her,she had to hire a private detective to follow him,she had to file orders of protection and really prove her case. It was not ideal to have my dad in jail where he could not make money to support his five kids and his bitterness and resentment built. The were divorced in 97 and he still hates her because she HAD to ruin his life. She did not have a choice to just say "no fault" she had to have the paper trail. There divorce took almost a decade from start to finish
Wow 😢 that was one mess. Sorry.
See this is why I blame men for creating broken homes. Smdh sorry you and your mom had to go through that 😢
I worry that something happening like this will increase murder in marriages! There’s already statistics showing how common it is for a man or woman to kill their spouse for various reasons rather than just divorce them bc of the stigma behind divorce and also the possibility of paying alot of child support and alimony. Now it will be harder/ almost impossible to leave when the wife is in danger or when the husband doesn’t want the wife anymore! I wish the government would separate themselves from things like this! Life is hard enough!
i think we can still access tiktok through the desktop version
Stay single ladies! If you marry an abuser, there will be barriers to your safety! Avoid marriage altogether while these laws are entact!!
COVENANT MARRIAGE FOR THE WIN! LETS GO!!! Yawl are just mad that men have the ability to screen out women that view marriage as temporary. Praise God for giving us hope.
Thanks for the info. For knowledge is POWER!! I do NOT consent!! In God's love, light, and TRUTH.
Just curious, why did people delete the TikTok app when the ban took effect? I just kept it because I figured it would be back up.
Idk man, it was very clear that it wasn’t going to actually happen, because why wait so late. And then when they mentioned trump Ijust knew it was apart of his plan.and sadly now a good chunk of people are just casually forgetting how trashy of a person he is
@@tsarinastevens9447meh, at 46, this ain’t my first rodeo to the BS show. That’s why I held out.
I deleted it and the app has changed- I don't want any association with TRUMP
@ valid point
Another issue this will raise. I am in school to become an LMFT. Licensed therapists are not advised to see couples conjointly if there are certain types of abuse in the relationship because it can cause further harm. Thus, if that type of abuse is present, the couple will not be able to receive licensed care that counts as "couples counseling". Only individual therapy for both parties. They would need to see a less qualified person like clergy who are known to have a strong bias toward making bad or abusive marriages work. Scary
If I were a young woman, I'd never get married. It's just not worth it anymore.
This is going to have a very opposite effect to what they want…less people will get married. Less people will have kids
Their so dumb Their haven't thought that far. 😂 instead of fixing a broken economy they rather force us and control us. 😂