15:50 it is explicitely said in the first movie by Zira that she can find no physical reason why humans can't speak. She says that their throats and vocal chords should have the ability to talk and reasons that the issue must be in the brain.
@@willtheprodigy3819 no. the only one lobotomized in the first movie was landon. Even that was done on purpose by dr zaius to prevent the truth from being revealed
While all of this was going on, Cornelius and Zira were retrieving one of the spaceships, somehow repairing it even though they were from a horse-riding civilization, and then flying it back in time to 1973; all with no knowledge that Taylor was going to blow up the Ape Planet.
the ape oeaders knew about about the humans and the human history and about their bombs and technology, but they covered it up , for fear that their own people would follow the same path of destruction. This is why they were all living in huts and riding horseback. He sinned Dr. Saius for recognizing the bomb for what it was, but that's because Zaius read the history books and he was familiar with it.
I know its been six years, but you owe back some sins because it was clear that Dr. Zaius has detailed knowledge of man's world before apes took over. Its not far fetched for him to know what a bomb is and how hard advanced metals can be.
What’s your point? He’s still the villain of the first movie, even if they tried to retcon him into a hero in this one. He’s a religious zealot and theocrat who puts forth the death penalty for anyone who challenges his way of doing things. I don’t get the prior defending him.
"The Forbidden Zone was once a Paradise; your breed made a desert of it, ages ago!" -- Zaius knows HOW Mankind made a desert of a natural Paradise, by using horrific weapons of mass destruction. It is this secret knowledge, passed down to him from his father from his grandfather (etc. etc.) for nearly two thousand years, that justifies his reason for perpetuating a system wherein Humans are kept in a state of mute animality -- where any Human being seen or heard exemplifying signs of Intelligence would be "dissected and then killed, in that order" -- and where the simian civilization is kept from advancing too far technologically, to prevent any future possibility of there ever being another global disaster. Lucius, in the finale of the 1st film asks, "Why must Knowledge stand still? What about the future?" -- and Zaius responds, "I may just have saved it for you" after making the decision to have Cornelius's cave of artifacts destroyed with explosives brought along by the gorilla Marcus. The simian society is 'Luddite' in the extreme, with Zaius and others in charge deliberately preventing scientific advancement from getting anywhere near dangerous enough to lead to another apocalypse. Their world ends up getting destroyed because Taylor -- dying, and still royally pissed at the death of his woman Nova -- deliberately detonates that "relic from the 20th Century" -- the Doomsday Bomb, which the "Keepers of the Divine Bomb" kept operational, worshiping it as a so-called "holy weapon of peace." If the Apes had stayed out of the Forbidden Zone -- as their Lawgiver had intended them to do, having pronounced the whole area deadly -- the world would not have ended on 11-23-3955 at all.
Obviously Dr. Zaius was ignorant of the Damascus Incident, where a giant fastening nut dropped from the catwalk damaged a nuke in the silo and caused the fuel to blow (but not the nuke). TRUE STORY!
each of the original POA movies were made with a clear ending because they didn't want to make any more but they were so popular that the studio said "MAKE another one now". that's why they blew up the entire planet at the end of the second movie, but still 3 more movies were made... and an animated series... and a live action tv series!!!
In the book the planet of the apes was based on, the apes were supposed to have technology up to the 50's era, but budgetary issues prevented that. Though, to be fair, that incredibly impressive makeup did take a literal 17% of the budget. At least in the first one. The second had its budget cut, so it could be more or less. But I'd take those makeup effects over some dailed by tech by the apes any day.
The other rejected scripts are way more interesting than what we got with this movie. Especially one where Taylor and his and Nova’s son Sirius would lead a revolt against the apes years later. Also this movie is supposed to take place in 3979 not 3955.
16:39 - you forgot one. When the gorilla shot Nova, you heard the sound of several rounds fired as from a machine gun but the gorilla had a rifle that fires one round each time the trigger is depressed.
The first time I watched this movie I missed the intro of James Franciscus's character and thought it was Charlton Heston's Taylor and couldn't understand why he was trying to convince some characters they never met... didn't make sense until the end of the film lol
It is amazing that the apes could keep the English language to what if is now after 2000 years considering that it has changed to something completely different from what it was only a 1000 years ago.
A luddite community like the Amish, if they were to be the sole survivors of a collapse of civilization and were to remain in isolation, would most probably retain their stagnant level of society, including their clothing styles and their King James Version language proficiency. Not being 'corrupted' by our Mass Media via TV and Internet, they would be living anachronisms, still going about their business dwelling in what amounts to 18th Century-level simplicity. A society that makes it their mission to stay 'primitive', going against the trend of the outside society of racing towards 'future shock', would be better equipped to survive the collapse of that ever-advancing society.
15:50 Pretty sure it was the first movie that had Zira mention she found humans to have perfectly developed vocal cords and everything and could not figure out a reason why they didn't talk. So I guess the idea was it's cause of nukes or some other radiation.
@@Puncherjoe1 Beneath. They all have badass endings though. Escape and Conquest are pretty damn good. Battle and Beneath not so much, but they have mad quotable lines.
@@BaseballPlayer0 I had not watched escape from the planet of the apes at that time. But the mark walberg film is it's own timeline not connected to the other films.
I remember the first time I watched this, with friends in college. Somewhere around the point Brent was getting psychically tortured, I actually said "The only way this movie can redeem itself is if they nuke everyone." So, uh, prophecy fulfilled I guess. At least the next two movies in the series are much better.
Most people don't realize that the 3rd movie is actually an UPSIDE-DOWN adaptation of the 2nd HALF of the novel! that's why most of it is so good. It adapts the part of the story the 1st movie COMPLETELY IGNORED. In my opinion, even the 1st movie isn't one-tenth as good of a story as Pierre Boulle's novel. And his story has a FUNNY ending that leaves you feeling good... not depressed.
I loved these movies as a kid. But back then, if you didn't see them in a theater, you'd have to wait a couple+ years. Then they would be broadcast by t.v. channels. And you might never know when they'd be on.
I literally just watched ALL 5 films this weekend......STALKERS! Personal opinion - the man playing Cornelius this time around was way more charismatic and acted through this makeup way better Roddy did.
I always thought the reason Zira and Cornealius were not tried was because Dr. Zaius respected them as intellectual equals, and he cut a deal with them to avoid the nective attention a trial of such a magnitude would bring, allowing the whole sorded affair to fade away with time. At least that was the plan.
I saw all these movies in 1991. I loved the second one, but as I got older, I noticed it was a retread of the first one, but the ending is really awesome. Also, I had a dog name Nova and my friend a dog named Ursus.
The Awakening was more disappointing. Heston hated the idea of a sequel. A lot of actors back then just didn't want to do sequels at all. They were associated with b-movies, I guess. And the final vintage Apes movie was definitely a b-movie.
@@bobthebear1246 I was being kind because it features the first usage as far as I know of the Post Apocalyptic School Bus. Yes, school buses are ideal for the end of the world, see Road Warrior and Resident Evil Extinction. But who knows what the future brings? Perhaps only the dead.
Without coffee, tea or copious amounts of refined sugar there is very little that might stain her teeth though. And until Pepsi started targeting them specifically, black Americans used to have some of the best teeth around.
Charlton Heston didn't want to do the movie. They nagged him until he agreed, on his condition that's he'd be in the beginning, disappear for most of the film, then come back at the end to DIE. But halfway thru production, he had ANOTHER "brillaint" idea. "Why don't you BLOW UP THE EARTH? That way nobody has to make another sequel." So yeah, it's all HIS fault. (I read this years ago in the book that covered the making of the 5 films.) Ever since, when some actor pulls this nonsense, I refer to it as "pulling a Charlton Heston". Both Jamie Lee Curtis & Sigourney Weaver have done it in the years since. Maybe more.
I absolutely loved Beneath....When you see it as an 8 yr old kid in the early 70's and have nothing to compare it to you might think differently. You can see in Kingdom where the foundation is there for a beneath like scenario.
In later POTA movies, characters talk about the possibility of parallel timelines. I see each POTA movie (of the original series) as not necessarily taking place in the same universe as all the others. Each movie should be consistent in itself, but "in one movie they say this, but in another movie they say that" is not a big deal. Even with this criterion, there is still plenty of sinfulness in these movies.
@@christopherheckman7957 I believe hestons was that he was the one to blow up the planet of the apes (literally), or that the earth gets destroyed as part of the story. Pretty sure he thought there wouldn’t be any more sequels if that happened (he has talked a lot about how he hates sequels).
@@albdamned577 According to what I've read, Heston agreed to do the film as a personal favor with the stipulation that he die in the first reel. There was a compromise where he disappeared in the first reel and came back in the last reel and blow up the planet.
@@jb888888888 yeah I knew it was something like that but I am pretty sure he came up with the idea for Taylor to blow up the planet as well, if not contractually!
Close. His initial stipulation was that Taylor had to die, not that the world would end. It was during pre-production that he got the idea that Taylor would do the nuke and the director liked the idea.
Wow, I finally decided to watch this movie yesterday. What are the odds he’d release this today? Also, this movie was wild. How did those humans get by all this time? How did the apes learn to talk in just 1000 years? Why aren’t there more remnants of civilization? How are you gonna kill the two main characters, nuke the world, and then somehow have three more movies after!? I guess I’ll find some of these things out in the next films.
I believe the novelization for the 1972 film indicates genetic manipulation of the great apes, after the 1983 plague that wiped out canines and felines (are there not wolves, coyotes, lions, bears, and panthers also?) was used to increase their intelligence so they could perform useful tasks. In the prior film, "Escape", Cornelius describes the entire process where apes were made pets, and later servants/slaves, as more gradual, taking decades if not centuries, describing an ape servant as being able to shop items off a list at a store, or prepare dinner, or wait on tables, and Zira interjects..."or, two CENTURIES later, TURN the tables." As Cornelius further elaborates, the apes learned "corporate action", i.e., to WORK TOGETHER, and resentful of their servitude, at first were sullen and/or slothful, then grunted their refusal, but at some point, at a date OPENLY commemorated by the future Ape civilization, a GORILLA named ALDO, rather than grunt or bark, repeats back the word that had been spoken to him countless times..."NO!"
Where did the dog tags come from? In the first movie Taylor and company strip naked and skinny dip. They lose ALL their belongings. After being captured Taylor had nothing to prove who he was. So...how did Taylor have his dog tags to give to Nova to signal to Brett that Nova knew Taylor?
Lots of flaws certainly. But still, James Franciscus, James Gregory, Paul Richards and Jeff Corey. Awesome actors. Plus the return of Maurice Evans and Kim Hunter.
So I have a question. Taylor found the statue of liberty. The Statue is 305 feet tall, counting the base and statue. The sand and water was at her chest. So if that is now sea level, wouldn't the subway and everything else they were exploring be at least 250 feet below sea level and under water? Or did the cave they enter, go below sea level? I don't know much about the caving system, so I don't know if caves can go below sea level, or not. So that is why I am asking. Is this a sin, or not?
It's implied that the Statue was partially destroyed, or at least sunk into the sand, by the "bomb"(s). The Statue of Liberty is 151 feet tall itself, but stands upon a 154 foot pedestal. A far more plausible explanation than the sea level changing that much. Then again, how, without maintenance, especially being continually painted, the Statue, made mainly of COPPER, in a seashore (marine) environment, doesn't corrode into a pile of copper oxides after nearly two thousand years, is inexplicable. The part Taylor sees is still in fairly good shape.
Everything you’re saying here is absolutely true, of course. But when I saw this and its predecessor as an eight year old living in the H hour of the Cold War, these movies scared the fucking shit out of me.
15:05 - “All Creatures Great and Small” and “All Things Bright and Beautiful” are a pair of semi-autobiographical novels written by English veterinarian James Herriot.
The book also has a different story on how apes became the dominant species. The movie franchise went with apes becoming slaves doing manual labor, eventually revolt, then live in piece with humans teaching both apes and humans the same thing, then apes try to conquer the humans and turn them into slaves in which humans strike back with nuclear war. The book however has humans going to war with each other which eventually bombard the planet with nuclear war heads after the astronauts leave. The apes evolve due to the radiation which killed most of the humans off and apes become the dominant species.
I have another sin you can add to this. In the first movie, Tyler's ship clock said the year was 3978 A.D. In this movie,, they changed it to the 3955 we know and that error stuck through the rest of the movie series.
If anyone is wondering where Taylor's dog tags were during the first film, well Christopher Walken can answer that in Pulp Fiction lol 🤪 The first movie was set in 3978, but then it's 3955 in this film, so was the screenwriter of Goldfinger not paying attention to what the first film said 🤔 If they wouldn't wait for Roddy McDowell's availability, perhaps they should've said Cornelius had a cold. The bomb returns in the fifth film, but only for the director's cut
The Alpha Omega bomb was seen in foreign releases of BATTLE (at least in Japan) years before the scenes were put back into it for American audiences on the DVD release. As for Taylor's dog-tags, I figure that the gorilla whom Taylor shot and killed near the Cave must've been one of the gorillas who had retrieved the items -- ANSA uniforms, Geiger counter, water bottle, backpacks, etc. -- near the Hunt locale, after Zaius realized that one of the captured humans could talk (i.e. Landon, whom he had lobotomized). The gorilla who happened to discover Taylor's jacket or trousers stuffed the items of clothing into the packs his horse was carrying, and when retrieving them from those packs later, to give the items to Zaius for inspection, the dog-tags must've fallen out of a pocket and weren't noticed still lying on the bottom of the pack. Or, maybe the gorilla noticed them and kept them for himself, fascinated by them . . . who knows? Anyway, the dog-tags are still lurking in that pack on his horse, and after Taylor shoots and kills him, the other gorillas prepare the horse Taylor demands in exchange for not shooting Zaius, stuffing one week's worth of food into the packs for him and Nova. Days later, when Taylor goes through the stuff in the packs, he discovers the dog-tags, probably guessing how they came to be there, of all places. I have a wild scenario which can explain the 3978-vs-3955 discrepancies in the EARTH-TIME clock-dates, but it's not a short answer, so I'll refrain from going into detail here.
This is such a gonzo "kitchen sink and all" scifi movie - I recognize its many weaknesses while still enjoying its gonzo-ness. But yes, how I do wish they'd just recast Taylor and we could have skipped the first 30 minutes or so of the film...
15:50 it is explicitely said in the first movie by Zira that she can find no physical reason why humans can't speak. She says that their throats and vocal chords should have the ability to talk and reasons that the issue must be in the brain.
So they didn’t lobotomize them all?
@@willtheprodigy3819 no. the only one lobotomized in the first movie was landon. Even that was done on purpose by dr zaius to prevent the truth from being revealed
@@willtheprodigy3819 no they only did brain surgery on the 2 other astronauts.
@@MurderMostFowl Only Landon. Dodge died before he could be captured.
Thank you for pointing this out.
She only ever spoke one word, a man's name...then she died. She was the most accomplished woman of her generation. R.I.P. Nova.😢
" Tay.... Lor ...."
Dr ZAIUS, Dr Zaius,
Dr Zaius, Dr ZAIUS,
Dr ZAIUS, Dr Zaius,
Whoa-oh, Dr Zaius…
(Dr Zaius Dr Zaius)
I love you Dr. Zaius!
"Can I play the piano anymore?"
"Of course you can!"
"Well I couldn't before!"
I understood that reference
Brought to you by "Kingdom of the Planet of the apes" in theaters this weekend
Cinema Sins ain't monkeying around with this movie.
They’re definitely not ape-ologizing for their criticismes.
If they wanted to have sex with woodwinds they would bone-oboes. (Am I doing this right?)
@@CinemaSinsTed Post did direct the first film for The Malposo Company- Hang em High starring Clint Eastwood.
❤❤❤❤❤😂
Absolutely terrible, you should be ashamed
While all of this was going on, Cornelius and Zira were retrieving one of the spaceships, somehow repairing it even though they were from a horse-riding civilization, and then flying it back in time to 1973; all with no knowledge that Taylor was going to blow up the Ape Planet.
Bust most people consider Escape from the Planet of the Apes to be a better movie than Beneath.
Well…they did have the able assistance of Dr. Milo, but yeah, the mother of all plot holes…
To be fair they thought each sequel was going to be the last so they never properly prepared an ending except for the first and last movie.
the ape oeaders knew about about the humans and the human history and about their bombs and technology, but they covered it up , for fear that their own people would follow the same path of destruction. This is why they were all living in huts and riding horseback.
He sinned Dr. Saius for recognizing the bomb for what it was, but that's because Zaius read the history books and he was familiar with it.
Singing, "Here we go again!"
I'm shocked the ending gags didn't reference Spaceballs.
"What is that coming out of her nose?
"Spaceballs?!"
"Oh shit. There goes the planet"
I know its been six years, but you owe back some sins because it was clear that Dr. Zaius has detailed knowledge of man's world before apes took over. Its not far fetched for him to know what a bomb is and how hard advanced metals can be.
What’s your point? He’s still the villain of the first movie, even if they tried to retcon him into a hero in this one. He’s a religious zealot and theocrat who puts forth the death penalty for anyone who challenges his way of doing things. I don’t get the prior defending him.
@@willtheprodigy3819 I don't think you comprehended the OP's intent.
Quite true.
"The Forbidden Zone was once a Paradise; your breed made a desert of it, ages ago!" -- Zaius knows HOW Mankind made a desert of a natural Paradise, by using horrific weapons of mass destruction. It is this secret knowledge, passed down to him from his father from his grandfather (etc. etc.) for nearly two thousand years, that justifies his reason for perpetuating a system wherein Humans are kept in a state of mute animality -- where any Human being seen or heard exemplifying signs of Intelligence would be "dissected and then killed, in that order" -- and where the simian civilization is kept from advancing too far technologically, to prevent any future possibility of there ever being another global disaster. Lucius, in the finale of the 1st film asks, "Why must Knowledge stand still? What about the future?" -- and Zaius responds, "I may just have saved it for you" after making the decision to have Cornelius's cave of artifacts destroyed with explosives brought along by the gorilla Marcus. The simian society is 'Luddite' in the extreme, with Zaius and others in charge deliberately preventing scientific advancement from getting anywhere near dangerous enough to lead to another apocalypse. Their world ends up getting destroyed because Taylor -- dying, and still royally pissed at the death of his woman Nova -- deliberately detonates that "relic from the 20th Century" -- the Doomsday Bomb, which the "Keepers of the Divine Bomb" kept operational, worshiping it as a so-called "holy weapon of peace." If the Apes had stayed out of the Forbidden Zone -- as their Lawgiver had intended them to do, having pronounced the whole area deadly -- the world would not have ended on 11-23-3955 at all.
Obviously Dr. Zaius was ignorant of the Damascus Incident, where a giant fastening nut dropped from the catwalk damaged a nuke in the silo and caused the fuel to blow (but not the nuke). TRUE STORY!
Pointing out everything about this movie that actually makes sense would be *much* more of a challenge. 😂😂😂
"Everything Right With Beneath the Planet of the Apes in 30 Seconds or Less"
its a movie or a documentary...? reminds of Wiluna and Mekatharra
Any time I see any Planet Of The Apes movie, I cant help but think of the end of Spaceballs.... 'whats that coming out of her nose??' LOL
'Oh shit. There goes the planet.'
😂😂😂 love space balls
each of the original POA movies were made with a clear ending because they didn't want to make any more but they were so popular that the studio said "MAKE another one now". that's why they blew up the entire planet at the end of the second movie, but still 3 more movies were made... and an animated series... and a live action tv series!!!
Brent touching the ladder then removing his hands from the ladder made this movie a step above from the ladder.
Ladder 🪜
Your comment rung true.
In the book the planet of the apes was based on, the apes were supposed to have technology up to the 50's era, but budgetary issues prevented that. Though, to be fair, that incredibly impressive makeup did take a literal 17% of the budget. At least in the first one. The second had its budget cut, so it could be more or less. But I'd take those makeup effects over some dailed by tech by the apes any day.
The other rejected scripts are way more interesting than what we got with this movie. Especially one where Taylor and his and Nova’s son Sirius would lead a revolt against the apes years later. Also this movie is supposed to take place in 3979 not 3955.
Zeus figuring out the illusion for no apparent reason was an example of an Unjustified True Belief.
16:39 - you forgot one. When the gorilla shot Nova, you heard the sound of several rounds fired as from a machine gun but the gorilla had a rifle that fires one round each time the trigger is depressed.
A few of the Gorilla soldiers were toting submachine guns, Madsen 50s with a carved wooden overcasing to look "Ape built".
The first time I watched this movie I missed the intro of James Franciscus's character and thought it was Charlton Heston's Taylor and couldn't understand why he was trying to convince some characters they never met... didn't make sense until the end of the film lol
You sinned Nova finally speaking. You really sinned one of the best moments of the movie. Damn you. 😭
Damn you all to Hell!
Exactly.
Damn him to HELL!
The damn, dirty TH-camr!
🤬🤬🤬🤬
Damn dirty TH-cam channel
damn you all to hell!!*
It is amazing that the apes could keep the English language to what if is now after 2000 years considering that it has changed to something completely different from what it was only a 1000 years ago.
A luddite community like the Amish, if they were to be the sole survivors of a collapse of civilization and were to remain in isolation, would most probably retain their stagnant level of society, including their clothing styles and their King James Version language proficiency. Not being 'corrupted' by our Mass Media via TV and Internet, they would be living anachronisms, still going about their business dwelling in what amounts to 18th Century-level simplicity. A society that makes it their mission to stay 'primitive', going against the trend of the outside society of racing towards 'future shock', would be better equipped to survive the collapse of that ever-advancing society.
Are we going to talk about Natalie Trundy playing different characters in all of the films except the first one where she doesn’t star?
15:50 Pretty sure it was the first movie that had Zira mention she found humans to have perfectly developed vocal cords and everything and could not figure out a reason why they didn't talk. So I guess the idea was it's cause of nukes or some other radiation.
No one knew that in another 30 years there would be an Ape Lincoln statue.
I'm hoping you do Escape, Conquest and Battle for the next two weeks.
Yes!
Me too!!
Which is the one with the completely wild ending
That’d be good.
@@Puncherjoe1 Beneath. They all have badass endings though. Escape and Conquest are pretty damn good. Battle and Beneath not so much, but they have mad quotable lines.
Wow with a ballsy ending like that how are they ever gonna contin- THREE MORE sequels?? And a remake? And another four movies from a reboot timeline??
You can’t keep a good planet down.
Maybe prequels or beneath is not canon.
@@weedherm6046 all of it is canon
@@BaseballPlayer0 I had not watched escape from the planet of the apes at that time. But the mark walberg film is it's own timeline not connected to the other films.
@@davisphillips993 “Heroes get remembered but planets never die.”
I remember the first time I watched this, with friends in college. Somewhere around the point Brent was getting psychically tortured, I actually said "The only way this movie can redeem itself is if they nuke everyone." So, uh, prophecy fulfilled I guess. At least the next two movies in the series are much better.
Most people don't realize that the 3rd movie is actually an UPSIDE-DOWN adaptation of the 2nd HALF of the novel! that's why most of it is so good. It adapts the part of the story the 1st movie COMPLETELY IGNORED. In my opinion, even the 1st movie isn't one-tenth as good of a story as Pierre Boulle's novel. And his story has a FUNNY ending that leaves you feeling good... not depressed.
I loved these movies as a kid. But back then, if you didn't see them in a theater, you'd have to wait a couple+ years. Then they would be broadcast by t.v. channels. And you might never know when they'd be on.
And they might be edited, too.
You also never knew who was ringing your phone.
Interesting choice to gray out the last few frames of the movie so it's not bloody red for the TH-cam sensors
Bus still has a bright paint job after thousands of years... ding!
Well they did use lead based paint in the 70's. :)
The screaming goat ladder lmao 🤣 😂 😆
'No more painted bus in the subway' lmao
YES!
DO THE ENTIRE SERIES!
DO IT!
DOOO IIIIT!
Are you gonna cover the rest of the 70s Apes sequels?
Or the Saturday Morning cartoon......
That never happend......
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR YEARS!
I literally just watched ALL 5 films this weekend......STALKERS!
Personal opinion - the man playing Cornelius this time around was way more charismatic and acted through this makeup way better Roddy did.
The other day I watched a clip from the Carol Burnett show where Roddy came on. The gag was he played it straight even as he was in full makeup.
I’m so happy you’re revisiting this franchise! Hope to see the last 3 originals get a video too
What, no Wilhelm scream as he gets shot and tumbles down the stairs?
This was before that became a common sound effect
I always thought the reason Zira and Cornealius were not tried was because Dr. Zaius respected them as intellectual equals, and he cut a deal with them to avoid the nective attention a trial of such a magnitude would bring, allowing the whole sorded affair to fade away with time. At least that was the plan.
1:02 “Heston and Hamilton” That’s Linda Harrison, not Linda Hamilton. *ding*
I saw all these movies in 1991. I loved the second one, but as I got older, I noticed it was a retread of the first one, but the ending is really awesome. Also, I had a dog name Nova and my friend a dog named Ursus.
Charlton Heston once said that The Planet Of The Apes was his best movie and Beneath The Planet Of The Apes was his worst. I couldn't agree more.
His worst, or the worst? I didn’t think his performance was particularly different than in the first film.
So ... Beneath the Planet of the Apes was ... beneath him?
The Awakening was more disappointing. Heston hated the idea of a sequel. A lot of actors back then just didn't want to do sequels at all. They were associated with b-movies, I guess. And the final vintage Apes movie was definitely a b-movie.
@@scockery "Battle For The Planet Of The Apes?" Try a z-grade picture right there.
@@bobthebear1246 I was being kind because it features the first usage as far as I know of the Post Apocalyptic School Bus. Yes, school buses are ideal for the end of the world, see Road Warrior and Resident Evil Extinction.
But who knows what the future brings? Perhaps only the dead.
10:22 "That's not fair. That's not fair at all. There was time now. There was, was all the time I needed..."
Classic movies aged well.
I'm surprised you didn't give a sin for how white Nova's teeth were.
Without coffee, tea or copious amounts of refined sugar there is very little that might stain her teeth though. And until Pepsi started targeting them specifically, black Americans used to have some of the best teeth around.
@@JaccoSW Thanks for the laughs man
Honestly, the last 2 days I've been watching reviews on all the POTA movies. I wanted a little break today and your video is the first I see 😂😂
So you WENT APE?
@selfdo Tuchè 😂
"Spoilers" don't apply to a movie that has been out for 24 years longer than the average age of EVERYONE on the planet (which is ~30.5 as of 2023)!
It's a spoiler if you haven't already seen it.
That thumbnail got me 😂😂
The race that brought forth Brain Guy from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Damn, this movie just… ENDS. EVERYTHING. And why?!
Charlton Heston didn't want to do the movie. They nagged him until he agreed, on his condition that's he'd be in the beginning, disappear for most of the film, then come back at the end to DIE. But halfway thru production, he had ANOTHER "brillaint" idea. "Why don't you BLOW UP THE EARTH? That way nobody has to make another sequel." So yeah, it's all HIS fault. (I read this years ago in the book that covered the making of the 5 films.) Ever since, when some actor pulls this nonsense, I refer to it as "pulling a Charlton Heston". Both Jamie Lee Curtis & Sigourney Weaver have done it in the years since. Maybe more.
"Gorillas in the mist"
Beautiful
I had the Planet of the Apes playset when I was a kid. Loved these movies.
Playset? The hell was that like?
@@ingredpaulson4530 I had the catapult one, my next door neighbor had one of the others (fortress) i think.
The after sins ladder scream was damn funny 😂😂
I absolutely loved Beneath....When you see it as an 8 yr old kid in the early 70's and have nothing to compare it to you might think differently.
You can see in Kingdom where the foundation is there for a beneath like scenario.
In later POTA movies, characters talk about the possibility of parallel timelines. I see each POTA movie (of the original series) as not necessarily taking place in the same universe as all the others. Each movie should be consistent in itself, but "in one movie they say this, but in another movie they say that" is not a big deal. Even with this criterion, there is still plenty of sinfulness in these movies.
I love this movie. It is hands down my favorite Planet of the Apes movie out of all of them. Quite possibly the best movie ending ever💀🔥
Lol pretty sure the ending was a dictated by Charleston Heston as a term of him returning
Leonard Nimoy only agreed to do Star Trek II because of the death scene.
@@christopherheckman7957 I believe hestons was that he was the one to blow up the planet of the apes (literally), or that the earth gets destroyed as part of the story. Pretty sure he thought there wouldn’t be any more sequels if that happened (he has talked a lot about how he hates sequels).
@@albdamned577 According to what I've read, Heston agreed to do the film as a personal favor with the stipulation that he die in the first reel. There was a compromise where he disappeared in the first reel and came back in the last reel and blow up the planet.
@@jb888888888 yeah I knew it was something like that but I am pretty sure he came up with the idea for Taylor to blow up the planet as well, if not contractually!
Close. His initial stipulation was that Taylor had to die, not that the world would end. It was during pre-production that he got the idea that Taylor would do the nuke and the director liked the idea.
The Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer audio, from Phil Hartman's classic SNL character just killed me 😂😂😂
Wow, I finally decided to watch this movie yesterday. What are the odds he’d release this today?
Also, this movie was wild. How did those humans get by all this time? How did the apes learn to talk in just 1000 years? Why aren’t there more remnants of civilization? How are you gonna kill the two main characters, nuke the world, and then somehow have three more movies after!? I guess I’ll find some of these things out in the next films.
I believe the novelization for the 1972 film indicates genetic manipulation of the great apes, after the 1983 plague that wiped out canines and felines (are there not wolves, coyotes, lions, bears, and panthers also?) was used to increase their intelligence so they could perform useful tasks. In the prior film, "Escape", Cornelius describes the entire process where apes were made pets, and later servants/slaves, as more gradual, taking decades if not centuries, describing an ape servant as being able to shop items off a list at a store, or prepare dinner, or wait on tables, and Zira interjects..."or, two CENTURIES later, TURN the tables." As Cornelius further elaborates, the apes learned "corporate action", i.e., to WORK TOGETHER, and resentful of their servitude, at first were sullen and/or slothful, then grunted their refusal, but at some point, at a date OPENLY commemorated by the future Ape civilization, a GORILLA named ALDO, rather than grunt or bark, repeats back the word that had been spoken to him countless times..."NO!"
That old spice whistle cracked me up lmao 😂
How long before we get Escape, Conquest and Battle?
I grew up on these movies. My friends and I watched for the slightest wardrobe malfunction of Zira's (oops, Nova's) costume. Hilarious.
0:44 😦 that scared the crap outta me. I didn't know that Taylor was a thing in this movie so I just got incredibly scared.
What a coincidence. I just watched the original 1st and 2nd movies for the first time a few days ago.
Thank you 😅
It’s only been up 5 min but somehow I’ve watched the entire video 😂
to think the ape general was almost Orson Welles
That inspired me to look up who did get the role ... and it was James Gregory, like I thought.
@@christopherheckman7957 I think he was the NYPD inspector 🕵🏽♂️ Barney Miller.
@@DavidLLambertmobile "Inspector Luger" and "Chano" in the same film.
I hollered at horseback riding 😂😂😂😂😂😂
2:00 - didn’t anyone in either of the 2 movies notice the Moon looks just like Earths
Commenting for the algorithm gods
Disappointed you didn't use the planet of the apes musical clip from the Simpsons.
Where did the dog tags come from? In the first movie Taylor and company strip naked and skinny dip. They lose ALL their belongings. After being captured Taylor had nothing to prove who he was. So...how did Taylor have his dog tags to give to Nova to signal to Brett that Nova knew Taylor?
Seems like this movie got a "You and your friends are dead. Game Over." kind of ending, huh?
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Lots of flaws certainly. But still, James Franciscus, James Gregory, Paul Richards and Jeff Corey. Awesome actors. Plus the return of Maurice Evans and Kim Hunter.
So I have a question. Taylor found the statue of liberty. The Statue is 305 feet tall, counting the base and statue. The sand and water was at her chest. So if that is now sea level, wouldn't the subway and everything else they were exploring be at least 250 feet below sea level and under water? Or did the cave they enter, go below sea level? I don't know much about the caving system, so I don't know if caves can go below sea level, or not. So that is why I am asking. Is this a sin, or not?
It's implied that the Statue was partially destroyed, or at least sunk into the sand, by the "bomb"(s). The Statue of Liberty is 151 feet tall itself, but stands upon a 154 foot pedestal. A far more plausible explanation than the sea level changing that much. Then again, how, without maintenance, especially being continually painted, the Statue, made mainly of COPPER, in a seashore (marine) environment, doesn't corrode into a pile of copper oxides after nearly two thousand years, is inexplicable. The part Taylor sees is still in fairly good shape.
Everything you’re saying here is absolutely true, of course. But when I saw this and its predecessor as an eight year old living in the H hour of the Cold War, these movies scared the fucking shit out of me.
Nova was played by Linda Harrison, not Hamilton.
00:57
" what's that
coming out of her nose ? "
" SPACEBALLS ! ,
oh sh*t , there goes the planet ! "
15:05 - “All Creatures Great and Small” and “All Things Bright and Beautiful” are a pair of semi-autobiographical novels written by English veterinarian James Herriot.
It's also a part of the hymn "All Things Bright And Beautiful" (1848).
That was a good book
Damn it! I JUST got done binging this channel!
1:11 IMO that's the biggest sin, each subsequent movie had a smaller allocated budget than the last. Movie 1 had 5.8 mil, 5 (battle) had 1.2 mil.
The way the apes in this movie look have ALWAYS scared me to my core
FYI. Ted Post also directed 1973's the baby. You should cover that gem please
The book also has a different story on how apes became the dominant species. The movie franchise went with apes becoming slaves doing manual labor, eventually revolt, then live in piece with humans teaching both apes and humans the same thing, then apes try to conquer the humans and turn them into slaves in which humans strike back with nuclear war. The book however has humans going to war with each other which eventually bombard the planet with nuclear war heads after the astronauts leave. The apes evolve due to the radiation which killed most of the humans off and apes become the dominant species.
I have another sin you can add to this. In the first movie, Tyler's ship clock said the year was 3978 A.D. In this movie,, they changed it to the 3955 we know and that error stuck through the rest of the movie series.
7:15 - I'd say it's more of a "Deus ex Flora" moment.
If anyone is wondering where Taylor's dog tags were during the first film, well Christopher Walken can answer that in Pulp Fiction lol 🤪
The first movie was set in 3978, but then it's 3955 in this film, so was the screenwriter of Goldfinger not paying attention to what the first film said 🤔
If they wouldn't wait for Roddy McDowell's availability, perhaps they should've said Cornelius had a cold. The bomb returns in the fifth film, but only for the director's cut
The Alpha Omega bomb was seen in foreign releases of BATTLE (at least in Japan) years before the scenes were put back into it for American audiences on the DVD release.
As for Taylor's dog-tags, I figure that the gorilla whom Taylor shot and killed near the Cave must've been one of the gorillas who had retrieved the items -- ANSA uniforms, Geiger counter, water bottle, backpacks, etc. -- near the Hunt locale, after Zaius realized that one of the captured humans could talk (i.e. Landon, whom he had lobotomized). The gorilla who happened to discover Taylor's jacket or trousers stuffed the items of clothing into the packs his horse was carrying, and when retrieving them from those packs later, to give the items to Zaius for inspection, the dog-tags must've fallen out of a pocket and weren't noticed still lying on the bottom of the pack. Or, maybe the gorilla noticed them and kept them for himself, fascinated by them . . . who knows? Anyway, the dog-tags are still lurking in that pack on his horse, and after Taylor shoots and kills him, the other gorillas prepare the horse Taylor demands in exchange for not shooting Zaius, stuffing one week's worth of food into the packs for him and Nova. Days later, when Taylor goes through the stuff in the packs, he discovers the dog-tags, probably guessing how they came to be there, of all places.
I have a wild scenario which can explain the 3978-vs-3955 discrepancies in the EARTH-TIME clock-dates, but it's not a short answer, so I'll refrain from going into detail here.
15:04 I no longer know who I am and I feel like the ghost of a total stranger 😂
Please do the rest of the series now. I love these, they're a guilty pleasure. This one is really the worst of them all. 😅😅
I literally watched this movie for the first time last night!!
2:53 Nova and the mute humans were not CAVEMEN - they didnt live in CAVES - they lived in the jungle raiding APES crops.
The ape makeup is absolutely amazing
I adore that "Rocks fall, everybody dies" ending, thats the oldschool Sci fi Movies.
The first film says there is NO reason the humans cannot speak physically
Nova was played by actress, Linda Harrison, not Linda Hamilton! MOVIE SIN COUNTER -1!
I think this one was my least favourite. I kept missing the beginning and the downer ending lessened my enjoyment.
This is such a gonzo "kitchen sink and all" scifi movie - I recognize its many weaknesses while still enjoying its gonzo-ness. But yes, how I do wish they'd just recast Taylor and we could have skipped the first 30 minutes or so of the film...
I literally started watching ticktock shorts about this movie this week
OH so how did the statue of liberty end up on highway 1 near Santa Cruz?
The crust slipped.
Maybe it's the one from Vegas.
@@jedsithor it didn't exist then I have been tot aht beach it is north of Santa Cruz on highway 1
70's dystopian hell.
Please do the third movie. That's where they introduce time travel
Those outakes were solid 10 out of 10!
I love that the end of the video included a sound clip from an "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer" skit, although, it reminds me how much I miss Phil Hartman.
The worst part is that Taylor decides to waste the entire planet because they killed his future girl friend and he hates the ape planet