I replaced them on so many playstations. Even on ps2. But one thing i hate and should have to get changed is the position of them. They should be easly to replace without teardown the whole device
@@thesixthgeneration6573 Yup, 100% what they want. They want us to treat these products as entirely disposable so we keep having to shell out cash to them. It's why they are so anti-right to repair.
The PS5 is a prime example of bad engineering! I used to have a Sony Vaio Laptop....Fanspin at 90% all the time even in Idle mode, Sony just can't design things.
One thing to mention - With the probable future shutdown of the PS4 update servers, wouldn't it be a good idea to attach another 3V source to the battery socket *during* your CR2032 replacement, so that the CMOS doesn't have the opportunity to lose power and be reset (losing your score data because the time is wrong). [I'd even go so far as to solder on wires so that connecting an external battery pack would be easier.]
I've had this problem 6-7 years ago when i didn't knew anything about computers, it was a pain to set the time everytime, at least the date was not wrong
Never had problems setting correct date on my PC... Just looked at my phone screen and boom, everything's working and as long as the time is close windows will then automatically update, unless you left it on manual.
Steve, if you think the placement of the PS5 battery is dumb, just take apart a few PS2 systems. Some versions have the battery on the motherboard, making you teardown the whole system while other revisions have the battery right on the side of the disc drive.
The Problem here is not the CMOS battery , the problem here is the Console need to ONLINE Authenticate your System Clock with PSN and enabling your Local License Server back that lets you Save\Get Trophies\Install PKG from BD discs that are locked with a license Key on your BD Disc ... in other words , Jailbraking a PS3\PS4\PS5\Xbone is the only way to go if you want to play it in 10 years
When this will actually become a problem you will need to replace them without disconnecting them though. You can't just replace them normally anymore. First you need to attach a backup batterie that stays connected, then replace the original battery and then remove the backup batterie. If you just replace the battery without a connected backup battery the console would already be bricked.
Fixed a PS4 hdmi port today and removed the cmos battery (just to remove it and see how easy it is to take on and off lol then put I put it back), and now you post this wow 😄
Great video on this topic. Just one mistake: even if the CMOS isn't gonna draw much, testing batteries without load doesn't really tell you much about the condition of the battery ;)
The best batteries you can buy I have found is Renata, in the quartz watch world they are the Rolls Royce of batteries and show you how good they are, I bought an early 76ish Ingersoll quartz which had a AG12 its original one and it hadn't sprayed acidy goo all on the innards. Those cheap Chinese batteries, when they run out of volts the acid inside attacks the thin membrane which is under a little pressure hence why when they go and this can happen in as little as a week from running to zero, the stuff squirts all over the nice copper motherboard erasing the thin traces and even attacks any copper windings in motors... so do buy best you can get and avoid the cheapo's cos they will eat your mobo.
Great video. Currently, I don’t repair any Sony consoles but I repair many older Nintendo consoles. These Nintendo consoles and their cartridges have these batteries, which I replace regularly. Great video reference, when I start repairing these Sony. Thank you !
Have you made a video on how Xbox authenticates or why they don’t have CMOS batteries? I’ve been wondering since watching this. I’d be very interested to see why and how.
From what I just read, the PS consoles do the same. If they don’t have a battery, they work just fine as long as they can access the internet to get their time (they are able to fetch the time just like the Xbox). It’s just that if it dies and you’re offline, than you can’t play games anymore. It’s really similar on Xbox too, but the Xbox is more restrictive as each time the power goes down, it loses time. But the Xbox allows you to play some games even then, while the PS5 will not boot most games without internet,
I just swapped these on my Wii and WiiU and Nintendo made that super easy to do. Just one screw to access it. I would not tear my PS4 apart to put in a garbage Amazon Basics battery. Buy a damn Energizer if you are making that effort.
Measuring voltage on lithium batteries is not a very good way to tell their charge. I prefer to just use a red LED - if it lights up, then battery is ok. Even completely dead batteries will have about 3V. A working one has at least 3,2V.
I work as a computer technician, I change CR2032s very regularly, and I use a battery tester to check, and sometimes the voltmeter shows me 3V but the tester tells me that the battery is dead ... in the doubt ... I replace the battery :)
@@Behdad47 I don't hate PS3. Just happen to not have any videos about them...mostly because there are so many others out there but also because I don't know them well.
From memory the only time I saw a CMOS battery put in a rational way was in the Saturn ... In which it was reachable by opening only a little door behind the console.
That’s because computers from 30 years ago have a very basic BIOS that has a much lower amount of data to retain and thus a lower power requirement than a modern BIOS/UEFI
Better still - if the battery on that 30 year old computer is dead... The only thing that happens is you get a message that says "hey friend, the battery is dead. replace it and review your settings when you feel like it, no rush" and then the computer boots up and you can still use every feature of your operating system. It doesn't lock you out of your legally purchased software like a certain brand of game consoles.
Nice video again steve, i've also seen videos where people put in a empty cmos battery to check what will happen and then the ps4 won't play any games anymore because it cannot sync with PSservers. They still have to fix this...
They can "fix" it by having the console do an internet check every time you boot it up, bypassing the battery, this will make it an online only system. Another is to disable the trophy time clock internally and keep it server side, again makes it a semi-online system. Last resort, disable all trophies on legacy systems after X amount of years, this is probably the worst option. Maybe they can think of better ways, I just listed those at the top of my head. All of these can be done with firmware update.
Why don't they put the replacable part on an easy to access spot?! Like on the ps5, they could've easily put the battery holder on the back of the MB, that way you don't risk messing up the liquid metal contact.
It is actually easily accessible. You don't need to take the heat sink off at all, there's a convenient cutout on the shielding to access the battery. You can see it in some of his other videos. Just flip the whole assembly over, heatsink and all, and swap the battery. Easy.
Yeah, you don't actually have to take all 43 screws off off the PS5. You only need to take off like 1 (the sole Torx screw I believe) and the entire assembly will lift right out, with the battery exposed.
Man, I've heard a dozen varying descriptions of the Cbomb issue, and I've never heard a reassuring answer about why the issue wouldn't affect Xboxes as well... The version that makes the most sense to me is this: the major issue isn't really the CMOS as much as the DRM Sony puts in their digital titles that keeps them from running unless it can verify the current date was set by a Sony server. If they ever shut down that server without patching out that DRM (which I don't know whether that's a firmware-level DRM or it's in each game individually), then you'll want a fresh CMOS because you'll only be able to keep playing those digital titles until the battery dies and that server-set time disappears forever. I've heard games on blu-ray don't have that DRM. I haven't heard definitively that Xbox digital games don't have similar DRM.
The PS5 seems to be the worst to replace the CMOS battery because you have to be careful with the liquid metal and you probably also have to replace the thermal putty on the vram chips.
Don’t forget that PC MOBO have CMOS as well, and love the boards that have a clear cmos on back I/o shield, as makes it easy to clear. And yes, I e had to change many PC cmos batteries over the years as well, cuz they don’t last forever, as you said. Cool vid showing ppl and explaining the purpose (yes can google it, but a video is so much better 😉). Cheers✌🏻
It's not so straight forward as that they all have various issues but PS5 is the least effected and PS4 being the worst effected, Doesitplay1 Twitter the guys who covered the cbomb issue originally have documented there findings on the PS3/4 and 5 cbomb issue.
this is ridiculous - Sony could have very easily wired up a daughterboard to handle this, rather than forcing users to dismantle the entire console to change a battery. Nintendo have been doing this right since 2006!
Sega Saturn has a small door on the back you can remove to access the battery without disassembling the console at all. The PS5 is kinda ridiculous by comparison.
be super careful when disassembling a ps4 or ps4 pro. there is a 4 wire connector that goes from the power supply to the motherboard and u will likely rip the connector off the board even if u try to be super careful. and u will hate yourself when u rip it off(ask me how i know). u will probably have to send the board to a repair shop to be fixed if that happens. also, if u successfully get the connector off then smear permatex di-electric grease(can be bought at an autoparts store) all over the plug so it will come out easier next time.
TLDR: The more your PS4/PS5 is plugged into the wall the longer these batteries will last in your particular system. really interesting that SONY didn't use their OWN CR2032... IDK if any of those were pulled from a launch ps4 but that is really interesting... I will say this You failed to describe the "CMOS Clock" problem properly. If the CMOS looses the voltage from this battery when the PS4 is UNPLUGGED then when the PS4 boots and it doesn't have an internet connection the "SYSTEM TIME" will be set back to whatever SONY set as the factory default. You did mention the authentication problem pretty good but the way SONY is handling the Digital Content Authentication is actually kind of cheap but efficient.
I was wondering why this got so much bad press, cmos battery is a moderately easy fix. I guess I can see why it would be scary to get in there and replace it, luckily as a PC gamer you get a good bit of experience with the cmos if you are messing with bios settings.
The problem was CMOS batteries on ps3's when the store was going to be closed down. Replacing the CMOS battery would not fix the issue because the data stored on the battery would be irreplaceable
I saw a video where they tested the ps5, you can still play games from disc and installed on hard drive if the battery does and you are not connected to the internet. This is a ps3/PS4 issue mainly
You could have easily change ps5 CMOS battery without needing to separate the heatsink, Sony even make sure to leave a hole in the metal plate so any repair guy could replace it, you really didn't did your homework today
Wow, I didn't even notice that. The good thing is that it isn't enough to cause any problems. The battery holder is still plenty strong enough to hold the battery correctly. Good job noticing that and bringing it to my attention!
These batteries must get a bit of a charge or I'm very lucky. My OG fat PS3 still runs without an issue. I plugged it in recently after months of it being unplugged so the family could play Mod Nation Racers (HD remake please), and other than an OS update, nothing special happened. I'm considering replacing the thermal paste and upgrading to a better fan, so I'll probably swap the battery to be safe.
How to mod PS4/PS5. Buy an 18650 battery, TP4056 charger, and a buck converter (4v to 3.3v) . Find a steady 5volt supply on the PS4/PS5 motherboard, and solder the charger to that supply. Solder the battery to the charger, and the buck converter between the battery and battery connector on the motherboard. Enjoy
Can we all agree that the Clock Cap issue on the OG Xbox is slightly better than having a CBomb issue? Imagine not being able to play physical discs once the CMOS dies, meanwhile 20 year old hardware modded or not can still play games even if the Clock Cap is not existing in the board
It isn't better, no, because the clock cap issue can totally write off the system and requires at least some equipment to replace, whilst the lithium cells are easy to replace.
@@Lukeno52 that's not true at all about OG Xbox remove the Clock Capacitor by desoldering it or bend back and forth until it breaks off, in some rare cases the leaking capacitor can destroy the montherboard but clean the leakage with some isopropyl alcohol and everthing in most cases is fine, the system will work perfectly fine without the cap just doesn't store date and time only known issue is with the 1.6 motherboards if no capacitor is present the console will error out. Yes the cap prob on OG Xbox is not good but the cbomb issue is a hell of alot worse if and when server support is gone there will be 116mil PS4 that will be useless and nothing more than a paper weight unless people resort to jailbreaking and using a payload. PS3 and PS5 are effected by the cbomb issue just not as bad.
After changing the battery, do you need to connect your PS4 to the internet in order to be able to play your games? Or just changing the battery fixes the issue w/o needing internet connection?
Yes, you need to connect to the internet. Even if you're preemptively replacing a battery that's still good, removing it causes the data to be lost. This means you need to reconnect to the internet and PSN to re-sync the time before you can play again. This is why one day, all of these systems will be bricks. The servers they connect to will be shut down by Sony due to lack of profitability some day. Then, after you replace the battery, guess what? No more PSN to re-sync the time with, so enjoy the useless consoles that can only tell you "hey I can't play this game until you sync the time with a server that no longer exists."
@mjc0961 - You talk as though only Sony has this issue. Wii & Wii-U use cmos batteries & M$ definitely has a drm system in place on their consoles. Not sure what the Switch is using, either. Do you actually not realize any of this?
@@TexasHollowEarth you have valid points in your comment but this video is about PlayStation no other company and what the previous person comment said is correct no need to defend it it effects all of us one day. I would like to think 20 or 30 years from now I can replace that battery in my PS4 and the servers are still up to sync the internal clock because without it which in the distant future it might not be there my PS4 will be nothing more than a paper weight. I still play and use my PS2 I had to replace the battery few years back but least with that console it never had to rely on connecting to PSN to get the console working fully again so as things stand now my PS2 will probably out live my PS3/4 and 5 because it doesn't suffer the dreaded cbomb issue.
@@mjc0961 I managed to change the battery without having to reconnect the ps4 to the internet, but it wasn't easy: I bought a CR2032 battery holder, soldered some wires to its terminals, then disassembled the ps4 and before removing the battery, solder the other end of those wires to where the ps4's battery is soldered (being super careful with polarity!) Then I put one cr2032 battery on the external holder, took out the one from the motherboard, replaced it with a brand new one, and desoldered the batter holder I put in. This way at no point the motherboard was left without power.
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Can you find and show a way(if there is one) to clean the heatsink of a ps4pro without removing it from the apu, I mean without breaking the contact with the apu so that replacing thermal paste is not necessary. Thank you.
Godbless the hackers and modders to save the day 😂 but it just shows you if a hacker can implement a payload to resolve the problem Sony can fix this with an update or even an end of life update if and when the servers and support is dropped.
in the future, once Sony kills the servers, you might want to add a external power source while changing the batteries, so the system doesn't wipe the data.
If there was a mod you could do that could have multiple of them in series that automatically switched to the next one and next time you started the console alerted that there was one less in the backup... But I dont know of anything with a standby energy consumption so low to be viable 😞
6:38 So wish the cmos was right here, granted, gonna last awhile, but that’s not always the case; and having to tear down the entire console practically to replace a coin battery, kinda ridiculous, no🤔
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Watching you break the battery holder on that PS4 hurt me physically
I replaced them on so many playstations. Even on ps2. But one thing i hate and should have to get changed is the position of them. They should be easly to replace without teardown the whole device
Yeah like nintendo wii you just unscrew one screw and take out the battery tray.
Agreed
I don't think they want us to replace them, just throw away the console 😞
@@corpse4434 right? Like the Saturn, Dreamcast, and Wii u
@@thesixthgeneration6573 Yup, 100% what they want. They want us to treat these products as entirely disposable so we keep having to shell out cash to them. It's why they are so anti-right to repair.
Sony can also just update the firmware for all 3 systems so they don’t need to check with the cmos battery for anything
Just as a precaution what I do is apply a constant 3v power across the cmos contacts before removing that way no data or digital signature is lost.
Doe the PS5, you can actually leave the heat sink on, and just flip the whole assembly over. The battery is in a cutout on the other side.
You can even clearly see that in one of his other videos, I don't know why he decided to make it look so difficult here.
@@noodohs ^this is what I came in the comments to say
@@lord_ishamael Same. Flips board over and reveals perfect cut out in the bottom plate...
The PS5 is a prime example of bad engineering! I used to have a Sony Vaio Laptop....Fanspin at 90% all the time even in Idle mode, Sony just can't design things.
@@justanotherbeautiful5736 lol I'm pretty sure that the group that designed Sony Vaio laptops and the one that designed the PS5 are not the same
PS5 CMOS issue was tested by SpawnWave and he was able to play games no problem. The issue seems to be only on the PS4...
yup.
physical games work fine on ps5 but any digital games you've bought and downloaded you cant play.
Digital isn't safe like the PS3 issue, digital games go bye bye though.
@@blazedyoda8608 I thought there was some physical PS5 games that wouldn't play, but most did?
@@PimptatoPCs I believe mortal kombat 11 has some issues yes.
One thing to mention - With the probable future shutdown of the PS4 update servers, wouldn't it be a good idea to attach another 3V source to the battery socket *during* your CR2032 replacement, so that the CMOS doesn't have the opportunity to lose power and be reset (losing your score data because the time is wrong). [I'd even go so far as to solder on wires so that connecting an external battery pack would be easier.]
This just happened to me today, and I went and got another one, replaced it just like how you did it and it works again. Thank you
You tested the PERFECT amount of batteries :)
wow even the evil space lord approved 👍
I've had this problem 6-7 years ago when i didn't knew anything about computers, it was a pain to set the time everytime, at least the date was not wrong
Never had problems setting correct date on my PC... Just looked at my phone screen and boom, everything's working and as long as the time is close windows will then automatically update, unless you left it on manual.
Steve, if you think the placement of the PS5 battery is dumb, just take apart a few PS2 systems. Some versions have the battery on the motherboard, making you teardown the whole system while other revisions have the battery right on the side of the disc drive.
The Problem here is not the CMOS battery , the problem here is the Console need to ONLINE Authenticate your System Clock with PSN and enabling your Local License Server back that lets you Save\Get Trophies\Install PKG from BD discs that are locked with a license Key on your BD Disc ... in other words , Jailbraking a PS3\PS4\PS5\Xbone is the only way to go if you want to play it in 10 years
Aww, just a wee short one this week but with the perfect amount of info as always. Great stuff.
When this will actually become a problem you will need to replace them without disconnecting them though. You can't just replace them normally anymore. First you need to attach a backup batterie that stays connected, then replace the original battery and then remove the backup batterie. If you just replace the battery without a connected backup battery the console would already be bricked.
Fixed a PS4 hdmi port today and removed the cmos battery (just to remove it and see how easy it is to take on and off lol then put I put it back), and now you post this wow 😄
Why can't every console have a CMOS battery as easily replaceable as Wii?
Great video on this topic. Just one mistake: even if the CMOS isn't gonna draw much, testing batteries without load doesn't really tell you much about the condition of the battery ;)
But the clock will. It's still not much but orders of magnitude more than the CMOS.
Yes, I think CR2032 should measure 3.2V or so when no load and new
The best batteries you can buy I have found is Renata, in the quartz watch world they are the Rolls Royce of batteries and show you how good they are, I bought an early 76ish Ingersoll quartz which had a AG12 its original one and it hadn't sprayed acidy goo all on the innards. Those cheap Chinese batteries, when they run out of volts the acid inside attacks the thin membrane which is under a little pressure hence why when they go and this can happen in as little as a week from running to zero, the stuff squirts all over the nice copper motherboard erasing the thin traces and even attacks any copper windings in motors... so do buy best you can get and avoid the cheapo's cos they will eat your mobo.
I wish I could still find them in my country, they las easily double the rime than other brands
You should show after remove one battery what happens and then after what you insert it again and connect it to PSN.
Check out Spawn Wave. He does it.
@@heartgrenade8359 link please
PS2 also has one. But it doesn't affect anything besides time/date and common settings like language and video out
in the future when the servers are down is there a way you could replace a dying battery without interrupting the CMOS power?
Great video. Currently, I don’t repair any Sony consoles but I repair many older Nintendo consoles. These Nintendo consoles and their cartridges have these batteries, which I replace regularly. Great video reference, when I start repairing these Sony. Thank you !
Have you made a video on how Xbox authenticates or why they don’t have CMOS batteries? I’ve been wondering since watching this. I’d be very interested to see why and how.
From what I just read, the PS consoles do the same. If they don’t have a battery, they work just fine as long as they can access the internet to get their time (they are able to fetch the time just like the Xbox). It’s just that if it dies and you’re offline, than you can’t play games anymore. It’s really similar on Xbox too, but the Xbox is more restrictive as each time the power goes down, it loses time. But the Xbox allows you to play some games even then, while the PS5 will not boot most games without internet,
I didn’t even know that was a problem good video
Like the old school gameboy games. Ive had to change the batteries in all of them
I just swapped these on my Wii and WiiU and Nintendo made that super easy to do. Just one screw to access it. I would not tear my PS4 apart to put in a garbage Amazon Basics battery. Buy a damn Energizer if you are making that effort.
But also apparently PlayStation is looking into the CMOS battery issue
The CMOS battery I think is in the PS4 and ps5 I think they have that there so when it dies you have no other Choice but to Upgrade
Measuring voltage on lithium batteries is not a very good way to tell their charge. I prefer to just use a red LED - if it lights up, then battery is ok. Even completely dead batteries will have about 3V. A working one has at least 3,2V.
I work as a computer technician, I change CR2032s very regularly, and I use a battery tester to check, and sometimes the voltmeter shows me 3V but the tester tells me that the battery is dead ... in the doubt ... I replace the battery :)
Hopefully we get some kind of firmware update that fixes this issue
I’d love to see this process on a PS3 fat and slim models since they are getting old, and probably need to be replaced very soon.
Could you please make a video about replacing the CMOS battery on different versions of PS3? Thanks.
Tronicsfix hates PS3, He doesn't have any PS3 vídeo
@@wmwmwmwmwmwm666-8 Oh. I didn't know that. Thanks.
@@wmwmwmwmwmwm666-8 I don't hate PS3. Don't tell other people something that isn't true.
@@Behdad47 I don't hate PS3. Just happen to not have any videos about them...mostly because there are so many others out there but also because I don't know them well.
@@Tronicsfix I see. You're mostly working on the newer hardware so it's completely understandable. Thanks a lot.
From memory the only time I saw a CMOS battery put in a rational way was in the Saturn ... In which it was reachable by opening only a little door behind the console.
the 2006 Nintendo Wii is really easy also,
@@tony--james you're right, even the wii
I've seen LGR turn on 30 year old computers............that still had the correct time and date. It's insane that some of them cast last.
That’s because computers from 30 years ago have a very basic BIOS that has a much lower amount of data to retain and thus a lower power requirement than a modern BIOS/UEFI
Better still - if the battery on that 30 year old computer is dead... The only thing that happens is you get a message that says "hey friend, the battery is dead. replace it and review your settings when you feel like it, no rush" and then the computer boots up and you can still use every feature of your operating system. It doesn't lock you out of your legally purchased software like a certain brand of game consoles.
Nice video again steve, i've also seen videos where people put in a empty cmos battery to check what will happen and then the ps4 won't play any games anymore because it cannot sync with PSservers. They still have to fix this...
They cant fix it, thats the whole point of having it - so you buy a new console to play your games
@@brandon_nope They won't.
@@dewydgaming8471 they can fix it, they said they are working on it
They can "fix" it by having the console do an internet check every time you boot it up, bypassing the battery, this will make it an online only system. Another is to disable the trophy time clock internally and keep it server side, again makes it a semi-online system. Last resort, disable all trophies on legacy systems after X amount of years, this is probably the worst option.
Maybe they can think of better ways, I just listed those at the top of my head.
All of these can be done with firmware update.
@@kastaway-mtx dude you are correct
Why don't they put the replacable part on an easy to access spot?! Like on the ps5, they could've easily put the battery holder on the back of the MB, that way you don't risk messing up the liquid metal contact.
Why do they put the PSU (one of the first parts do go bad) inside the console?
It is actually easily accessible. You don't need to take the heat sink off at all, there's a convenient cutout on the shielding to access the battery. You can see it in some of his other videos. Just flip the whole assembly over, heatsink and all, and swap the battery. Easy.
@@noodohs correct me if im wrong, but doesn't the ps4 require you to take out the motherboard to replace it?
Yeah, you don't actually have to take all 43 screws off off the PS5. You only need to take off like 1 (the sole Torx screw I believe) and the entire assembly will lift right out, with the battery exposed.
That wouldn't have made this look as involved to do! Can't have that!
Bloody hell. Do they still do this? Some classic consoles already had this problem with non-rechargeable batteries causing the device to brick.
Man, I've heard a dozen varying descriptions of the Cbomb issue, and I've never heard a reassuring answer about why the issue wouldn't affect Xboxes as well... The version that makes the most sense to me is this: the major issue isn't really the CMOS as much as the DRM Sony puts in their digital titles that keeps them from running unless it can verify the current date was set by a Sony server. If they ever shut down that server without patching out that DRM (which I don't know whether that's a firmware-level DRM or it's in each game individually), then you'll want a fresh CMOS because you'll only be able to keep playing those digital titles until the battery dies and that server-set time disappears forever. I've heard games on blu-ray don't have that DRM. I haven't heard definitively that Xbox digital games don't have similar DRM.
Sony patched this problem for the ps4 and ps5
Great info in just 8 mins, Great channel
The PS5 seems to be the worst to replace the CMOS battery because you have to be careful with the liquid metal and you probably also have to replace the thermal putty on the vram chips.
Don’t forget that PC MOBO have CMOS as well, and love the boards that have a clear cmos on back I/o shield, as makes it easy to clear. And yes, I e had to change many PC cmos batteries over the years as well, cuz they don’t last forever, as you said.
Cool vid showing ppl and explaining the purpose (yes can google it, but a video is so much better 😉).
Cheers✌🏻
Just a heads up, the issue only affects PS4's of all models. PS5, including playing PS4 games on PS5, as well as PS3 will be just fine.
It's not so straight forward as that they all have various issues but PS5 is the least effected and PS4 being the worst effected, Doesitplay1 Twitter the guys who covered the cbomb issue originally have documented there findings on the PS3/4 and 5 cbomb issue.
Good informal video, if my PS4 Pro needs the part replacing, I will certainly get this video to help
I don’t think Amazon basics is of the highest quality
this is ridiculous - Sony could have very easily wired up a daughterboard to handle this, rather than forcing users to dismantle the entire console to change a battery.
Nintendo have been doing this right since 2006!
Sega Saturn has a small door on the back you can remove to access the battery without disassembling the console at all. The PS5 is kinda ridiculous by comparison.
be super careful when disassembling a ps4 or ps4 pro. there is a 4 wire connector that goes from the power supply to the motherboard and u will likely rip the connector off the board even if u try to be super careful. and u will hate yourself when u rip it off(ask me how i know). u will probably have to send the board to a repair shop to be fixed if that happens. also, if u successfully get the connector off then smear permatex di-electric grease(can be bought at an autoparts store) all over the plug so it will come out easier next time.
Ah your videos always remind me that its friday
The PERFECT amount of tension 👌
Watching this video with Metallica - Battery playing in the background
Ha, ha...nice!
just yes.
Cannot stop the battery 🎶
How can this comment be 2 days old video is published 1-2 hrs ago 🤧🤔
@@addy.is.live1 wait wait WAIT HOW
I think the Wii is the only console with a user replaceable cmos battery
And yes
The cmos battery in mine is still running after 15 years
I love my modded Wii, and yes The Wii battery is easily accessible, ( The Sega Saturn's Battery was also easy I believe)
TLDR: The more your PS4/PS5 is plugged into the wall the longer these batteries will last in your particular system.
really interesting that SONY didn't use their OWN CR2032... IDK if any of those were pulled from a launch ps4 but that is really interesting... I will say this You failed to describe the "CMOS Clock" problem properly. If the CMOS looses the voltage from this battery when the PS4 is UNPLUGGED then when the PS4 boots and it doesn't have an internet connection the "SYSTEM TIME" will be set back to whatever SONY set as the factory default.
You did mention the authentication problem pretty good but the way SONY is handling the Digital Content Authentication is actually kind of cheap but efficient.
Hello Steve, is dead cmos battery can cause error like CE-34878-0? In many games I have problem like this one.
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The ps2 has one as well.
3:00 Would the xBox still function normally if you installed one from the ps motherboard? 🤔
1:36 CR2032 is the same battery in my car keyless entry remote.
You opened the guts of the ps5 that looks like a lnverted Oreo cookie
I was wondering why this got so much bad press, cmos battery is a moderately easy fix. I guess I can see why it would be scary to get in there and replace it, luckily as a PC gamer you get a good bit of experience with the cmos if you are messing with bios settings.
The problem was CMOS batteries on ps3's when the store was going to be closed down. Replacing the CMOS battery would not fix the issue because the data stored on the battery would be irreplaceable
Awesome video Steve!
There is a lot of old Consoles to create content about
such as PS3 Xbox 360 Wii and older
you are making a lot of the videos about the PS4, and PS5.
I totally agree he should do some of those older consoles but will it bring in the views?. Love anything game repair old or new
CR 2032 is the most common one used in like all key fobs and all mainboards
I saw a video where they tested the ps5, you can still play games from disc and installed on hard drive if the battery does and you are not connected to the internet. This is a ps3/PS4 issue mainly
I learned something new again from you Tnx.... 😁😁😁
Would be great if You got a 4k camera upgrade so all this little detail would be sharper!
@@manuelh.4147 not needed but why not? I watch on 4k oled up close and 1080 looks bad
Love your videos keep making videos ❤️
are consequences like reset data after replacing a battery???
CMOS in my grandfather pc still works after 12 years :)
You could have easily change ps5 CMOS battery without needing to separate the heatsink, Sony even make sure to leave a hole in the metal plate so any repair guy could replace it, you really didn't did your homework today
His description of what a CMOS battery does was pretty lacking too.
Your video help me so much you are hero...
7:32 thumbs up if you noticed Steve breaking one of the battery holders (left top corner) :D
@@attilaracz2626 *bad editing…. You don’t notice sneak or good editing
Wow, I didn't even notice that. The good thing is that it isn't enough to cause any problems. The battery holder is still plenty strong enough to hold the battery correctly. Good job noticing that and bringing it to my attention!
@@attilaracz2626 Lol...There literally is no editing there other than me cutting to the next scene.
These batteries must get a bit of a charge or I'm very lucky. My OG fat PS3 still runs without an issue. I plugged it in recently after months of it being unplugged so the family could play Mod Nation Racers (HD remake please), and other than an OS update, nothing special happened. I'm considering replacing the thermal paste and upgrading to a better fan, so I'll probably swap the battery to be safe.
How to mod PS4/PS5. Buy an 18650 battery, TP4056 charger, and a buck converter (4v to 3.3v) . Find a steady 5volt supply on the PS4/PS5 motherboard, and solder the charger to that supply. Solder the battery to the charger, and the buck converter between the battery and battery connector on the motherboard. Enjoy
What an absolutely stupid place to put the CMOS battery in the PS5!
The PS4s are bad enough, but the PS5 is just a malicious placement.
My ps4 works well, but it doesn’t beep when I turn it on neither when I remove a disc.. Is it due to CMOS battery failure?
Can we all agree that the Clock Cap issue on the OG Xbox is slightly better than having a CBomb issue? Imagine not being able to play physical discs once the CMOS dies, meanwhile 20 year old hardware modded or not can still play games even if the Clock Cap is not existing in the board
It isn't better, no, because the clock cap issue can totally write off the system and requires at least some equipment to replace, whilst the lithium cells are easy to replace.
@@Lukeno52 that's not true at all about OG Xbox remove the Clock Capacitor by desoldering it or bend back and forth until it breaks off, in some rare cases the leaking capacitor can destroy the montherboard but clean the leakage with some isopropyl alcohol and everthing in most cases is fine, the system will work perfectly fine without the cap just doesn't store date and time only known issue is with the 1.6 motherboards if no capacitor is present the console will error out.
Yes the cap prob on OG Xbox is not good but the cbomb issue is a hell of alot worse if and when server support is gone there will be 116mil PS4 that will be useless and nothing more than a paper weight unless people resort to jailbreaking and using a payload. PS3 and PS5 are effected by the cbomb issue just not as bad.
My launch fat ps3 still works
So if your ps4 battery dies its unlucky
takes couple mins to relplace
After changing the battery, do you need to connect your PS4 to the internet in order to be able to play your games? Or just changing the battery fixes the issue w/o needing internet connection?
Yes, you need to connect to the internet. Even if you're preemptively replacing a battery that's still good, removing it causes the data to be lost. This means you need to reconnect to the internet and PSN to re-sync the time before you can play again.
This is why one day, all of these systems will be bricks. The servers they connect to will be shut down by Sony due to lack of profitability some day. Then, after you replace the battery, guess what? No more PSN to re-sync the time with, so enjoy the useless consoles that can only tell you "hey I can't play this game until you sync the time with a server that no longer exists."
@mjc0961 - You talk as though only Sony has this issue. Wii & Wii-U use cmos batteries & M$ definitely has a drm system in place on their consoles. Not sure what the Switch is using, either. Do you actually not realize any of this?
@@TexasHollowEarth you have valid points in your comment but this video is about PlayStation no other company and what the previous person comment said is correct no need to defend it it effects all of us one day. I would like to think 20 or 30 years from now I can replace that battery in my PS4 and the servers are still up to sync the internal clock because without it which in the distant future it might not be there my PS4 will be nothing more than a paper weight. I still play and use my PS2 I had to replace the battery few years back but least with that console it never had to rely on connecting to PSN to get the console working fully again so as things stand now my PS2 will probably out live my PS3/4 and 5 because it doesn't suffer the dreaded cbomb issue.
@@mjc0961 I managed to change the battery without having to reconnect the ps4 to the internet, but it wasn't easy:
I bought a CR2032 battery holder, soldered some wires to its terminals, then disassembled the ps4 and before removing the battery, solder the other end of those wires to where the ps4's battery is soldered (being super careful with polarity!)
Then I put one cr2032 battery on the external holder, took out the one from the motherboard, replaced it with a brand new one, and desoldered the batter holder I put in. This way at no point the motherboard was left without power.
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Have you tried replacing your CMOS battery?
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I'm curious if there is a way to just wire it up so you don't have to use a battery.
Can you find and show a way(if there is one) to clean the heatsink of a ps4pro without removing it from the apu, I mean without breaking the contact with the apu so that replacing thermal paste is not necessary. Thank you.
hello sir, is the IFIXIT tool kit is useful in laptop parts removal??????
I see that thermal paste (and liquid metal) and wonder how many people are now going to replace their battery without also replacing the grey stuff
cmos battery in my 2009 ps3 still works. Usually they last at least 10 years and more.
My Packard Bell computer from 2004 (which has a battery Integrated into the RTC chip) still works.
The cmos on my launch ps2 lasted up until earlier this year
It is fixable on jailbroken PS4s up to 7.55 firmware, by the Kernel Clock payload.
Godbless the hackers and modders to save the day 😂 but it just shows you if a hacker can implement a payload to resolve the problem Sony can fix this with an update or even an end of life update if and when the servers and support is dropped.
in the future, once Sony kills the servers, you might want to add a external power source while changing the batteries, so the system doesn't wipe the data.
Yes, I was thinking about adding a part to show a way you could do that but decided against it. Maybe should have done it.
@@attilaracz2626 You could always just solder some wires to a good battery in place of the bad one, then replace it.
That's a good idea.
@Nikolai głodowski This also effects the PS3 and it's store was almost shut down this year.
Yeah but not the servers
did you break one of the tabs from the battery holder on the ps5 board ? it kinda looked like it was broken or atleast crooked
I didn't notice in the video or editing but it does look like one is bent a little. Still plenty strong enough to hold the battery securely.
@@Tronicsfix well it did look like it was secure enough, i was just wondering if you had noticed :-) now i know keep the good content coming man
The battery keeps the bios alive while the system is not plugged in,if the system is plugged in the bios does not need a battery
I hope sony releases firmware which prevent stuff to stop working when battery is dead
Good to know.
Reason #45 why achievements and trophies were a damn stupid idea.
I want to know if the cmos battery uses more energy or drains faster when the console is not plugged in?
If there was a mod you could do that could have multiple of them in series that automatically switched to the next one and next time you started the console alerted that there was one less in the backup...
But I dont know of anything with a standby energy consumption so low to be viable 😞
What's up Steve.
But doesn’t the PS4 and PS5 have a setting to set the time via internet? Wouldn’t that work if the battery goes out?
6:38 So wish the cmos was right here, granted, gonna last awhile, but that’s not always the case; and having to tear down the entire console practically to replace a coin battery, kinda ridiculous, no🤔
Great video stream.
Great video 😀👍
When my CMOS battery is about to die and I replace it, should I maintain a peace of mind after doing that?