As an old VW guy I have to mention that chirp will change, depending on how far in you install the tailpipes. If you look in the muffler (with the pipes removed) you will see another pipe on one side. (forget which side) You put the new tailpipes in till you hit that other pipe then wiggle it back out about 3/4" or so. Install the other side to the same depth using a tape measure. That internal pipe creates a venturi effect and helps draw exhaust through the heat riser pipe under the intake manifold. Too much or too little back pressure at that point will change the heat riser flow and also change that chirp. Pushing the tailpipe in too far will also restrict the exhaust. If you get it just right you wont hear much chirp at all. (at least till the baffles rust out)
I replaced the muffler from a bus one to the correct stock on my Super Beetle. One day, a tip fell off, so I bought two new ones. The one that fell was easy. The one that fell out. The other one-not so much! I had to spend about a week and a bottle of PB Blaster chiseling it out. It welded itself in. I removed the entire muffler and had to put it in a vice. I hop to not have to do that again!
Fun video, Guys! Here's a tip for installing the stereo: The metal plate must go on the *interior* side of the dash, not the trunk side, as you did in the video. This metal plate is meant to provide stable support for the radio. This is why the display is flush with the plastic face plate, which is not correct. Instead, the display should protrude through the plastic cosmetic face plate about 1/4 inch or so. Your installation will work adequately if you supported the back end of the unit with metal plumbers tape or other similar material. When you install the AUX connector, I recommend you correct the installation of the metal support place. Errors aside, keep up what you're doing. Fun content, great video capture and editing work! Cheers from an enthusiastic owner of three 1969 Beetles and two VW busses ('69 & '72).
That beetle sounded so much different without the exhaust tips on it especially since it didn't have that distinctive chirping sound that it would have with the tips
I remember as a teen hating the sound of the exhaust chirp on my 74 Super Beetle...so I just screwed off the chrome tips...and instant power! (The same German Harley sound you got). Only problem was the exhaust stained the paint...but it sounded tough. Later put on a a little header...I remember it was called the “Purple Beetle Booster”...made it sound sporty yet civilized. Thanks for the memories!
Having fun, that's what Beetles have always been about. Good job. I recently retired and now an old Beetle sits next to my Harley. Love wrenching and driving/riding both. Now, just need to move to Florida so it's more of a 12 month deal.
I get a kick out of how the exhaust sounds like a cricket on a beetle. But I would rather it without those chrome baffles. And just put a couple straight through chrome tips instead to get the aggressive sound. Really liked the retro styled radio!
Why do people think that WD-40 is a good penetrating oil? It's good for removing bugs 'n tar, it's a good fire starter, and it"s OK for a squeaky door. Smells OK, too. That's about it.
Love your bug! I was little in the 60’s and my mom had an old bug (a ‘60 I think), we called it Herbie (after the movie The Love Bug) and I used to sit in the little back pocket next to the engine...in the days before seat belts and car seats lol. Ah bug memories 💓
I was told that on the old 36 hp engines, removing the muffler caused the engine to run too lean, which damaged the valves. I wonder if those tail pipe tips were to create back pressure or perhaps prevent a too lean condition?
Don't let anyone's negative comments about your work bother you. You are working on the car yourselves, that alone makes you car guys!! I personally love that you went back with stock tips, I love that little chirp. You guys are doing great.
flees4free I know what you mean... Beetles are slowly disappearing from the streets. But when the last survivor would still roll over among SUVs and hybrids, I bet it'll be here in Brazil or Mexico !
My 2nd car was a 1973 super beetle,loved that car,bought it in 1978.Back in those day"s, a mail order company called J,C. Whitney made every after market piece you could imagine for a type 1 VW.Those cars were everywhere and cheap to buy and own.They sold a set of flared exhaust tips that took that annoying "whistling sound" completely away,back then regular department stores sold everything for those cars.Changing an engine was 4 bolts and 7 wires,1/2 day job.tops.Floor jack under the motor,pull it right out,new one went in just as easy.Windshield washer was powered off the spare tire,when you got lower than 26lbs. the washer stopped working so it didn"t totally de flate the spare,alot of really genious stuff on these vehicles!
I know this video is two years old, but you can get a similar sound to without the tips by punching out the baffles in the tips, which will keep the stock look and provide a similar aggressive sound.
The chirping sound is the crimped internal baffles working loose from the outer shell. Wolfsburg West has tig-welded German made STAINLESS pipes that look & sound great for YEARS! You get what you pay for! Back in the day I just gutted my tailpipes.
nice to watch yet another generation learn about Type 1's! back in the day, we bolted on exhaust "extractors" with glass-pack mufflers and re-jetted the carburetor, it didn't go any faster but the glass pack drowned out the tinny VW sapphire radio
I put the larger diameter stainless tips on mine... gets rid of the pea shooter whistle and gives it a nice rumble with the “boxer” (actually unequal length header) noise. Sounds great in my opinion
Those little tweet generating baffles, actually serve a purpose. The baffles help maintain the correct back pressure on the exhaust. Without this much needed back pressure, your little 4-cylinder friend will suffer from overheating, and possible cylinder burnout. You can run without them, if you use longer pipes, just do the calculations to achieve the same level of back pressure. This is akin to tuning the port on a subwoofer. In my humble opinion, the Beetle should always have the "VW Chirp", but then I'm an old school "Air Head". Nice video guys!
not gonna lie, I even went out and bought a new exhaust for my bug and purposefully didn't put on the pea shooter chrome tips on lol. I kid you not, mine shoots flames quite big (and loud) when I let off the throttle at a high rpm. Then i decided to be a good driver and decided to weld metal pipes over the existing exhaust cutouts so I don't have to use the pea shooter tips again and thus making my bug sound more mean. It still shoots flames occasionally, but not as often when it didn't have the chrome tips.
I have a 74 super bug and I got new chrome tail pipes 2 years ago and they are already rusty! I even live in dry Colorado like these Boulder guys! Invest in the stainless steel, it's worth it
I put a vw tip on a allis Chalmers exhaust pipe. Made it real quiet. My brother put a megaphone exhaust system on his vw with a 1300 engine with 1500 jugs and pistons along with a 3/4 cam,two barrel holly carb,bobbed fenders and hood bonnet. That was one fast car. Sounded like a big angry bumble bee. He also installed a fastback engine in another bug. Had to ease on the gas especially when shifting gears as the front end would come off the ground and scrape the exhaust tips on the pavement. :O
Music to my ear, but originally there was no chirp. Aftermarket pipes makes that sound. I had a pair of NOS pipes,they purred so sweet. My recent 1500 Bug chirps too:)
Great job guys! I got my 74 Super when I was 14 and I’m now 49, that makes it 35 years of ownership. After all those years I finally decided to try to get rid of the infamous gas smell. You will probably figure out that changing the gas cap won’t solve the problem... can’t wait to watch part 2 of your solution ;-). Keep it up, I love the way to do this serie.
@@CelticgypsypnwI have a '71 Super Bug, and I couldn't get rid of the gas smell. So, in 2019, it became 100% electric. Now, it's possible to smell the leather seats, and to travel places in a strange kind of silence..........no engine / exhaust noise, but tire rumble of the road. The best thing ever.
@@peterduxbury927 I have looked at that and it is very clever when done right. The cost and range put me off. I beat the gas smell in those and enjoy the original beast within. I redid the whole gas tank venting system and made it actually better than the factory intent. 0 fumes, better engine cooling to boot. Sharing for free to anyone who asks.
The radio might've been even better if if also featured an USB or external audio input (if yours didn't), since many drivers like to play music from their mp3s. An amplifier might also help at speed.
Original tips had a ceramic liner, none or less chirp. We used to replace them with lengths of SS pipe so they didn't look shit again after a few months, in fact the SS ones moved from muffler to muffler.
Next you need to add some additional speakers since the new stereo supports it. Also get rid of the resonators and old muffler and add some headers. I remember adding a "Purple Beetle Booster" to my 1964 beetle in 1973 it had a great sound! Enjoy 😀
Nice video guys good to see young guys learning to work on these old cars a 1973 VW Bug was my first car in high school. :) Mike, ASE Master Technician 1979-2020
In my 1963 Beetle I took the standard end tubes out and replaced them with flared tips, so called TT Pipes, from 2 to 3 inches in diameter. The looked very sporty and the sound was much more aggressive. (The horse power remained the same....alas!)
Must be the shortest exhaust sys. on any car. In winter it's along way from the heat exchanger to the windshield. A german friend gave up scraping both sides of the windshield and used ski goggles with the window rolled down. The gas heater was more effective, but had downsides. Nice job on the stereo, but it'd be nice to see a Blaupunkt sticker.
Chris York by 'gas heater' you mean the original one, taking hot air from the engine cooling system through the air-box and into the cockpit ? I mean, my question may sound strange, but here in Brazil we got almost no experience on heating systems, and since my '72 Beetle has one of those, I'd like to ask you: does it really works good on a cold northern winter ?
There were Beetles that came with a separate heater that used gasoline from the fuel tank. I've never owned one with that heater, but I think it was quite effective. It had a fuel penalty though. The original hot air from exhaust was not effective. You can buy electrical heaters from the parts store to preheat and maybe even run if you have a good alternator. No air conditioning in Brazil?
Chris York, thank you for your reply ! I've never heard of such gas heater, I guess it might be exclusive for European/North American winters. I just asked it out of curiosity, because I intend to fix my car's heater. But surely we seldom need to use heaters on a tropical country like Brazil ! And yes, we do have air conditioning, but not for the Beetle, and the entire air cooled engine line from VW. In fact Volkswagen started to sell cars with AC systems in the early 80's, as optional items for their more expensive, luxury models.
Chris York not the Super Beetle per se, but actually, my '72 Beetle comes from a limited series which lasted until '74. This version got a more powerful 1500cc engine, elaborate interior in comparison to regular models, but carburetor instead of fuel injection. But externally it looks just like the one pictured in this video above. In Brazil, the VW is nicknamed 'Fusca', and this roughly Super Beetle was called the 'Fuscão', which can be translated into 'big Fusca' !
i didn't look closely enough, but they used to have removable faceplate stereos and removable stereos. to prevent stereo theft, they used to have stereos you could pull out of the dash and others that you could pull the faceplate (with all the controls) off. i can't imagine a faceplate coming off that easily and being put back on and still working if it isn't part of the design.
That chrome trim is also part of the silencing system as I discovered when I removed the rotten ones on mine ad had to fit new ones because of the increased noise level. Where would we be without zip ties? they have so many unusual uses.
Not all of the stock style exhaust tips you can get make that chirping sound. None of our beetles does that. Some of them has to be "broken in" and some never seem to make that sound at all. When putting in the new tips they have to be inserted at a certain length. The left one is supposed to overlap the small preheat pipe inside the muffler by 5-7mm, and then just install the right one accordingly. But often it isn't that easy since most beetles have got a new muffler at least once during their life. And the repro mufflers usually aren't very consistent when it comes to these little details. I have only ever dealt with repros and have just made sure that they don't stick too far into the muffler. If they do it can supposedly affect the engines performance (I have no idea if this is actually true but it is very easy just to be on the safe side). They are also available in different lengths (265, 250 and 225). The older the car is, the longer the tips are supposed to be.
I love the Beattle, but I wonder if I’ll tire of only having two doors? Any feedback? I’m single, no kids. I mostly use the back Doors to carry stuff when they don’t fit on the back hatch. One thing I don’t know I’d like is how the seat belt is positioned. Comments?
Would love to see you guys put together my 74 VW 412, had all the body work done and painted it back to its original colour of chromium yellow, but now it has been siting and waiting for me to assemble it, but life got away and the years flew by and health reasons I am unable to assemble it so now it sits in my sisters barn like a new car just unassembled. It truly is the ugly duckling of the rare VW's.
Back in the sixties a company “Abarth” made exhaust systems for imports VW being one of them. Looked good and sounded better than the factory. I think the sales pitch was “free flow”.
OK now, all you need to do is cut 2" off the ends of those tubes and remove the baffles. I knew a guy who raced and modified air cooled VDubs and he said that was the optimum tuning for the stock muffler (3" from the muffler). Sounds good too. The right aftermarket system can make these engines sound even better, though. I had a Thunderbird exhaust on my Karmann Ghia and it was superb. They were bought by Pertronix some years back, don't know if they're still in production, but Empei and Scat make similar exhausts. This type retains the heater boxes and join in a short collector in the center, and a horizontal, side-side pancake muffler bolts on.
You are so lucky to even get the tips out, when you install them, use some never seize so removal is easier next time. also check the fuel filler hose that goes to the tank for leaks as this is the usual source of the fuel smell.
First thing I did was replace that dreadful "chirpy" exhaust and replace it with a decent extractor system that improves efficiency AND makes my bug sound like it has some balls! Each to their own though. Great video guys, good job.
They also make plane tubes that are flared ( no baffles) that put a roar into the bug. In Indiana we can do that but some sissy states it's frowned upon.
In the sixties and seventies Volkswagen dealers sold a factory accessory they called a Sports Tip they were a larger diameter but still had the baffles in the tip it was tuned to make your Volkswagen sound just like a 356 Porsche I had them on my 66 Karmann Ghia. I thought it sounded better than the header systems for Volkswagens But no one seems to make them anymore
Jobs done, nobody died, and nothing caught fire. Worst of all, no blood was spilled. You'll be back in there in about 2 weeks to re-do something, guaranteed. At which time, there will be flames, and blood, then it will run like a champ forever! :D
You hear a deeper chirp using the og oil bath air cleaner.. my 67 was sweet before i changed out the muffler for a wrap around quiet one.. now it sounds like a porsche
Millennials...too young to remember stereos with pop-out faces so as to discourage potential thieves. Early 90s "tech," by the way. Haha Anyway, I can't get enough of this series -- keep 'em coming, boys!
Millennials...too young/clueless to appreciate HD radio and a Pioneer Premier deck. Thing probably already had the aftermarket wiring harness set up. They go and replace it with a cheap Chinese retro looking stereo...
I'm only 16 and I know tons about audio quality. Pioneer premier head units or alpine head units were the classic goldies. Now it's some offbrand head unit people use. Kenwood and jvc have a lot of power output nowadays as well
Love that I H hat. Because I'm an International Harvester person. LOL basically 7.3 diesel in Fords. Love the old VW. So much fun to drive. And so easy to work on. But my wife has an 04 convertible new Beetle and I haven't 05 convertible. Bought them cheap and use it as a commuter car. I have a 5-speed hers is an automatic. Love that 5-speed. I wonder if I could make the new Beetle sound like the old ones. LOL you never know. You guys do a good job on the videos. I love that you actually make a video and you get along and help each other. So many TH-camrs want to cut down each other and make a big stink all the time. Using a bunch of profanity. I don't see a need for that. Thanks again, God bless
The deck lid always leaks on the radio on the stock radio the top was solid no holes I had new gasket and I had to cover holes on top of mine the new tip will rust in two months
My Baja bug had the radio pulled out when I bought it and I used it as a safety back up. If I accidentally left the keys in the ignition and locked the doors I was able to open the hood and pull the keys through the radio slot
One thing you need is a channel lockvpliers ser and vise grips set to put in your box alobg with good screw drivers set. PB Blaster is much better at penetrating than wd40. Add one good speaker mounted in rhe rear rhis way you two can take full advantage of that great stereo you purchased. I'll be following you two You have a great first project car rhats totally awesome 👍👋👋👋
With the new tips you have the old sound back - that's boring. On my first beetle (back in 1982) I removed the perforated sheets from the inside of the tips. That made a cool sound and looked original. On my later 1957 beetle I installed a larger engine and a Brazilian sound pipe, but that's another story.
Guys actually you should've opted for an original Blaupunkt am/fm radio. They were actually quite good sounding and if I recall correctly they had only one knob instead of two.
They already sound mega amazing from the factory. Truly a unique car! The only car nicknamed after a bug beetle (animal) that actually looks like one. We grew up with em. Love the sound. Love the vehicle. Wish they'd make all the models from beginning to end again even with a hybrid and all electric version but with a button on the electric version to put on and off that famous beetle tweeting sound. Los geht's Deutschland. Auf Wiedersehen, PROST
Actually, the tips are the mufflers.....the component you are sliding them into is the heat exchanger. The exaust pipes are encased in the chamber and there is airflow through the chamber for your heater/defogger. There is no baffling in the heat exchanger.
Premier is not a cheap radio. Premier is a step up from Pioneers regular models. Which usually have more power on the outputs, better sound processor, advance equalizers and has a longer warranty. And your so-called Walmart special, Premier by Pioneer is not sold at Walmart.
From the looks of it this exhaust is like five years old. The suffer a lot of strain due to intense heat and need to be replaced regularly. Don't bother with stainless, won't make no difference - only way more expensive. Great series, keep 'em coming!
Now this is a story all about how this bug got flipped, not upside down; and Mike would like to take a minute, just sit down now... he and Tommy tell you how to remove a sh;$ radio from a Bug called "Super" In the front slopes of Colorado, born and raised; Bandimere was where they spent most of their days. Chillin' out maxin', relaxin', air-cooled all shootin some flames from exhaust tips, old-school When a couple of guys who were up to no good Started TFL... there goes the neighborhood. They made one car review and then Roman got scared; he said: "Now you make reviews with the tall-one and the bear".
The chirping sound is natural to the VW boxers, due to it's valves operation. One can minimize the sound, like you did, but never get rid completely. Anyway, I just LOVED that new retro-look stereo ! Where did you get it ? Does anybody knows an online store that can ship one of those to Brazil ? Great job guys, your channel is fun, entertaining and very interesting for VW enthusiasts !
I bought the entire kit, including that radio. Did you have any problem getting it past the wiper motor? I had to take the face off the radio and reinstall it through the radio slot in the dash. I have a 72 standard Type 1.
Greetings from South Africa. Is it possible to modify the stock exhaust to remove the churping noise? Yes, it is definitely iconic to the beetle and I like it but I've also heard some stock exhausts on Beetles without the churping sound in the past. My dad had a Karman Ghia which also made the Beetle churp sound. It has since been handed over to a family relative.
Was always told "if your valves are out of adjustment the bug will not tweet" so if it stops making the tweeting sound, your valves need to be adjusted.
In the same vein as big green, it is time to reach out to an air-cooled performance engine manufacturer to see if they will sponsor a huge power upgrade. I am thinking 200 hp should do nicely and perhaps a small lift and Baja bug treatment for this little guy. Then retry Gold Mine Hill. Could be fun. Good video gents.
they sell fiberglass bodies for baja bugs...much better to use modern suspension and a tube frame is way stronger, safer. plus you dont hack up a classic bug
You guys are Great !!! You had me ROTFL with the Mini German Harley comment ! Love it !!! Keep up the good work ! I own an all original 1965 bug now but have owned 13 throughout my lifetime. Even owned the one driven in the movie "Chances Are" by Robert Downey Jr and Cybil Sheppard but lost it in a nasty Divorce... LOL but that's a whole other story... Anyway just wanted to comment on you guys and tell you thanks for keeping the Vee Dub alive on your channel !!!
WD40 is not a penetrating oil, it's a very light water displacing lubricant. For the same price, you can by PB Blaster at any auto parts or hardware store
Best sounding exhaust on classic bugs = turbo. Muffler if you feel you must, but my 6.5 turbo sounds SWEET through an empty cat. Imho. Y'all are a good team.
As an old VW guy I have to mention that chirp will change, depending on how far in you install the tailpipes. If you look in the muffler (with the pipes removed) you will see another pipe on one side. (forget which side) You put the new tailpipes in till you hit that other pipe then wiggle it back out about 3/4" or so. Install the other side to the same depth using a tape measure. That internal pipe creates a venturi effect and helps draw exhaust through the heat riser pipe under the intake manifold. Too much or too little back pressure at that point will change the heat riser flow and also change that chirp. Pushing the tailpipe in too far will also restrict the exhaust. If you get it just right you wont hear much chirp at all. (at least till the baffles rust out)
Just love the beetle tweet! It is as iconic as the Ferrari roar. Great work on the car!
I agree the tweet is iconic but it sounded better without the tips. I would have left them off.
Heidi and Franny's Garage Ganz bestimmt! Los geht's Deutschland, PROST
For a pair of guys who aren’t “experts”, you guys did great! Thanks for posting
I replaced the muffler from a bus one to the correct stock on my Super Beetle. One day, a tip fell off, so I bought two new ones. The one that fell was easy. The one that fell out. The other one-not so much! I had to spend about a week and a bottle of PB Blaster chiseling it out. It welded itself in. I removed the entire muffler and had to put it in a vice. I hop to not have to do that again!
Fun video, Guys! Here's a tip for installing the stereo: The metal plate must go on the *interior* side of the dash, not the trunk side, as you did in the video. This metal plate is meant to provide stable support for the radio. This is why the display is flush with the plastic face plate, which is not correct. Instead, the display should protrude through the plastic cosmetic face plate about 1/4 inch or so. Your installation will work adequately if you supported the back end of the unit with metal plumbers tape or other similar material. When you install the AUX connector, I recommend you correct the installation of the metal support place. Errors aside, keep up what you're doing. Fun content, great video capture and editing work! Cheers from an enthusiastic owner of three 1969 Beetles and two VW busses ('69 & '72).
I used to have the flared tails pipes on my 74 Sunbug, man, the memories. Keep em coming !
Flared pipes with no baffles are the best
That beetle sounded so much different without the exhaust tips on it especially since it didn't have that distinctive chirping sound that it would have with the tips
I totally love the sound that the beetle makes its so pleasing to hear . damn wanna have my own dream beetle car
Nice to see some young guys interested in Beetles. My 63 has half the wires under the hood and they are still a pain in the butt. Nice radio
I remember as a teen hating the sound of the exhaust chirp on my 74 Super Beetle...so I just screwed off the chrome tips...and instant power! (The same German Harley sound you got). Only problem was the exhaust stained the paint...but it sounded tough. Later put on a a little header...I remember it was called the “Purple Beetle Booster”...made it sound sporty yet civilized. Thanks for the memories!
Having fun, that's what Beetles have always been about. Good job. I recently retired and now an old Beetle sits next to my Harley. Love wrenching and driving/riding both. Now, just need to move to Florida so it's more of a 12 month deal.
I get a kick out of how the exhaust sounds like a cricket on a beetle. But I would rather it without those chrome baffles. And just put a couple straight through chrome tips instead to get the aggressive sound. Really liked the retro styled radio!
Check the fuel evaporation system for fuel leaks. That is most likely the reason why you have fuel smell when turning to the left.
Why do people think that WD-40 is a good penetrating oil? It's good for removing bugs 'n tar, it's a good fire starter, and it"s OK for a squeaky door.
Smells OK, too.
That's about it.
PB Blaster. Works fast and great, and even if you didn't do any work, it still smells like "real" service work. :D
I totally agree. I don't know if you have it in the States, but here in the UK I always use PlusGas instead. Much more effective.
There’s free all too. Best thing I have seen yet
Jorg Sacul nah wd-40 smells top notch
The WD in WD40 stands for water displacement formula.
It's Primary function is not for loosening rusty parts, although it works as such. To a degree.
Love your bug! I was little in the 60’s and my mom had an old bug (a ‘60 I think), we called it Herbie (after the movie The Love Bug) and I used to sit in the little back pocket next to the engine...in the days before seat belts and car seats lol. Ah bug memories 💓
Love your keeping it old school. This is a good series.
Pioneer Premier were actually the higher line radios from Pioneer back in the day, similar to the Elite for home electronics, not Walmart.
I was told that on the old 36 hp engines, removing the muffler caused the engine to run too lean, which damaged the valves. I wonder if those tail pipe tips were to create back pressure or perhaps prevent a too lean condition?
Just put in a larger main jet.
Don't let anyone's negative comments about your work bother you. You are working on the car yourselves, that alone makes you car guys!! I personally love that you went back with stock tips, I love that little chirp. You guys are doing great.
Even here in Germany a beetle is very very rare on the streets today My sister owned one in the late 70s, I had my first driving atemps on this car.
flees4free I know what you mean... Beetles are slowly disappearing from the streets.
But when the last survivor would still roll over among SUVs and hybrids, I bet it'll be here in Brazil or Mexico !
My 2nd car was a 1973 super beetle,loved that car,bought it in 1978.Back in those day"s, a mail order company called J,C. Whitney made every after market piece you could imagine for a type 1 VW.Those cars were everywhere and cheap to buy and own.They sold a set of flared exhaust tips that took that annoying "whistling sound" completely away,back then regular department stores sold everything for those cars.Changing an engine was 4 bolts and 7 wires,1/2 day job.tops.Floor jack under the motor,pull it right out,new one went in just as easy.Windshield washer was powered off the spare tire,when you got lower than 26lbs. the washer stopped working so it didn"t totally de flate the spare,alot of really genious stuff on these vehicles!
I know this video is two years old, but you can get a similar sound to without the tips by punching out the baffles in the tips, which will keep the stock look and provide a similar aggressive sound.
VW Bug is my absolute favorite car.
Learned to drive my uncle's beautiful 64 when I was 9 years old.
Fell in love for life.
The chirping sound is the crimped internal baffles working loose from the outer shell. Wolfsburg West has tig-welded German made STAINLESS pipes that look & sound great for YEARS! You get what you pay for! Back in the day I just gutted my tailpipes.
nice to watch yet another generation learn about Type 1's! back in the day, we bolted on exhaust "extractors" with glass-pack mufflers and re-jetted the carburetor, it didn't go any faster but the glass pack drowned out the tinny VW sapphire radio
I put the larger diameter stainless tips on mine... gets rid of the pea shooter whistle and gives it a nice rumble with the “boxer” (actually unequal length header) noise. Sounds great in my opinion
Those little tweet generating baffles, actually serve a purpose. The baffles help maintain the correct back pressure on the exhaust. Without this much needed back pressure, your little 4-cylinder friend will suffer from overheating, and possible cylinder burnout. You can run without them, if you use longer pipes, just do the calculations to achieve the same level of back pressure. This is akin to tuning the port on a subwoofer. In my humble opinion, the Beetle should always have the "VW Chirp", but then I'm an old school "Air Head". Nice video guys!
It sounds sweet with those new pipes on.
Sooooo which part was free? The tips that were $12 each, the $180 radio, or the $20 in tools and fluids to take the tips off?
The free part was taking the old tips off and leaving them off.
When did you make it sound good?
@@joyride5160 After shutdown.
joy ride Clearly you don't really love vws
not gonna lie, I even went out and bought a new exhaust for my bug and purposefully didn't put on the pea shooter chrome tips on lol. I kid you not, mine shoots flames quite big (and loud) when I let off the throttle at a high rpm.
Then i decided to be a good driver and decided to weld metal pipes over the existing exhaust cutouts so I don't have to use the pea shooter tips again and thus making my bug sound more mean. It still shoots flames occasionally, but not as often when it didn't have the chrome tips.
I have a 74 super bug and I got new chrome tail pipes 2 years ago and they are already rusty! I even live in dry Colorado like these Boulder guys! Invest in the stainless steel, it's worth it
I put a vw tip on a allis Chalmers exhaust pipe. Made it real quiet. My brother put a megaphone exhaust system on his vw with a 1300 engine with 1500 jugs and pistons along with a 3/4 cam,two barrel holly carb,bobbed fenders and hood bonnet. That was one fast car. Sounded like a big angry bumble bee. He also installed a fastback engine in another bug. Had to ease on the gas especially when shifting gears as the front end would come off the ground and scrape the exhaust tips on the pavement. :O
Music to my ear, but originally there was no chirp. Aftermarket pipes makes that sound. I had a pair of NOS pipes,they purred so sweet.
My recent 1500 Bug chirps too:)
Great job guys! I got my 74 Super when I was 14 and I’m now 49, that makes it 35 years of ownership. After all those years I finally decided to try to get rid of the infamous gas smell. You will probably figure out that changing the gas cap won’t solve the problem... can’t wait to watch part 2 of your solution ;-). Keep it up, I love the way to do this serie.
35 years of gasoline fumes...that has to be good for you
Eric Godbout -perso Yup, they'll probably have to check out the tank exhausting vent.
I cured the gas smell and improved the cooling at the same time.
@@CelticgypsypnwI have a '71 Super Bug, and I couldn't get rid of the gas smell. So, in 2019, it became 100% electric. Now, it's possible to smell the leather seats, and to travel places in a strange kind of silence..........no engine / exhaust noise, but tire rumble of the road. The best thing ever.
@@peterduxbury927 I have looked at that and it is very clever when done right. The cost and range put me off. I beat the gas smell in those and enjoy the original beast within. I redid the whole gas tank venting system and made it actually better than the factory intent. 0 fumes, better engine cooling to boot. Sharing for free to anyone who asks.
The radio might've been even better if if also featured an USB or external audio input (if yours didn't), since many drivers like to play music from their mp3s. An amplifier might also help at speed.
Original tips had a ceramic liner, none or less chirp. We used to replace them with lengths of SS pipe so they didn't look shit again after a few months, in fact the SS ones moved from muffler to muffler.
Next you need to add some additional speakers since the new stereo supports it. Also get rid of the resonators and old muffler and add some headers. I remember adding a "Purple Beetle Booster" to my 1964 beetle in 1973 it had a great sound!
Enjoy 😀
"Sounds like a boxer" xD
Maby cause it is 😂
He has no idea 🙃
Nice video guys good to see young guys learning to work on these old cars a 1973 VW Bug was my first car in high school. :) Mike, ASE Master Technician 1979-2020
In my 1963 Beetle I took the standard end tubes out and replaced them with flared tips, so called TT Pipes, from 2 to 3 inches in diameter. The looked very sporty and the sound was much more aggressive. (The horse power remained the same....alas!)
Wall-mart just called in, said they are canceling all advertising on TFLnow. Said they only sell mighty fine radios.
yeah, like Sony...i made the mistake of buying a Sony thinking it was a good brand name...well the operative word is WAS... they used to be good
stickloaf its sad actually, one of the only good brands still around making good radios is blaupunkt
@@lakeshorerides Not any more they are a China brand now
Must be the shortest exhaust sys. on any car. In winter it's along way from the heat exchanger to the windshield. A german friend gave up scraping both sides of the windshield and used ski goggles with the window rolled down. The gas heater was more effective, but had downsides. Nice job on the stereo, but it'd be nice to see a Blaupunkt sticker.
Chris York by 'gas heater' you mean the original one, taking hot air from the engine cooling system through the air-box and into the cockpit ?
I mean, my question may sound strange, but here in Brazil we got almost no experience on heating systems, and since my '72 Beetle has one of those, I'd like to ask you: does it really works good on a cold northern winter ?
There were Beetles that came with a separate heater that used gasoline from the fuel tank. I've never owned one with that heater, but I think it was quite effective. It had a fuel penalty though.
The original hot air from exhaust was not effective.
You can buy electrical heaters from the parts store to preheat and maybe even run if you have a good alternator.
No air conditioning in Brazil?
Chris York, thank you for your reply !
I've never heard of such gas heater, I guess it might be exclusive for European/North American winters.
I just asked it out of curiosity, because I intend to fix my car's heater.
But surely we seldom need to use heaters on a tropical country like Brazil !
And yes, we do have air conditioning, but not for the Beetle, and the entire air cooled engine line from VW.
In fact Volkswagen started to sell cars with AC systems in the early 80's, as optional items for their more expensive, luxury models.
Yes, different markets probably. Did you ever get the fuel injected Super Beetle? I got to drive one and it worked quite well.
Chris York not the Super Beetle per se, but actually, my '72 Beetle comes from a limited series which lasted until '74.
This version got a more powerful 1500cc engine, elaborate interior in comparison to regular models, but carburetor instead of fuel injection.
But externally it looks just like the one pictured in this video above.
In Brazil, the VW is nicknamed 'Fusca', and this roughly Super Beetle was called the 'Fuscão', which can be translated into 'big Fusca' !
i didn't look closely enough, but they used to have removable faceplate stereos and removable stereos. to prevent stereo theft, they used to have stereos you could pull out of the dash and others that you could pull the faceplate (with all the controls) off. i can't imagine a faceplate coming off that easily and being put back on and still working if it isn't part of the design.
That chrome trim is also part of the silencing system as I discovered when I removed the rotten ones on mine ad had to fit new ones because of the increased noise level. Where would we be without zip ties? they have so many unusual uses.
I had flared tips on my 73 super beetle and 73 regular beetle. They had baffles in them like stock ones but sounded much better
Not all of the stock style exhaust tips you can get make that chirping sound. None of our beetles does that. Some of them has to be "broken in" and some never seem to make that sound at all. When putting in the new tips they have to be inserted at a certain length. The left one is supposed to overlap the small preheat pipe inside the muffler by 5-7mm, and then just install the right one accordingly. But often it isn't that easy since most beetles have got a new muffler at least once during their life. And the repro mufflers usually aren't very consistent when it comes to these little details. I have only ever dealt with repros and have just made sure that they don't stick too far into the muffler. If they do it can supposedly affect the engines performance (I have no idea if this is actually true but it is very easy just to be on the safe side). They are also available in different lengths (265, 250 and 225). The older the car is, the longer the tips are supposed to be.
I wonder if Ed China would ever colab on this series with you, he is an air-cooled wizard
Close your eyes 9:29 to 9:54
A completely different experience
Well this is harder than it looks
HAHAHAHAHAHA I went back just to hear it. LOL That's funny! Didn't think of that first time past that section.
hahahahahaha
I love the Beattle, but I wonder if I’ll tire of only having two doors? Any feedback? I’m single, no kids. I mostly use the back Doors to carry stuff when they don’t fit on the back hatch. One thing I don’t know I’d like is how the seat belt is positioned. Comments?
Good video guys. Got some good advice when I was younger. Heat works well. Use a propane torch next time.
Would love to see you guys put together my 74 VW 412, had all the body work done and painted it back to its original colour of chromium yellow, but now it has been siting and waiting for me to assemble it, but life got away and the years flew by and health reasons I am unable to assemble it so now it sits in my sisters barn like a new car just unassembled. It truly is the ugly duckling of the rare VW's.
Excellent, boys! I have a 73 mexican beetle, I'm trying to restore it. It's getting awesome!
Back in the sixties a company “Abarth” made exhaust systems for imports VW being one of them. Looked good and sounded better than the factory. I think the sales pitch was “free flow”.
OK now, all you need to do is cut 2" off the ends of those tubes and remove the baffles. I knew a guy who raced and modified air cooled VDubs and he said that was the optimum tuning for the stock muffler (3" from the muffler). Sounds good too. The right aftermarket system can make these engines sound even better, though. I had a Thunderbird exhaust on my Karmann Ghia and it was superb. They were bought by Pertronix some years back, don't know if they're still in production, but Empei and Scat make similar exhausts. This type retains the heater boxes and join in a short collector in the center, and a horizontal, side-side pancake muffler bolts on.
You are so lucky to even get the tips out, when you install them, use some never seize so removal is easier next time. also check the fuel filler hose that goes to the tank for leaks as this is the usual source of the fuel smell.
First thing I did was replace that dreadful "chirpy" exhaust and replace it with a decent extractor system that improves efficiency AND makes my bug sound like it has some balls!
Each to their own though. Great video guys, good job.
They also make plane tubes that are flared ( no baffles) that put a roar into the bug. In Indiana we can do that but some sissy states it's frowned upon.
In the sixties and seventies Volkswagen dealers sold a factory accessory they called a Sports Tip they were a larger diameter but still had the baffles in the tip it was tuned to make your Volkswagen sound just like a 356 Porsche I had them on my 66 Karmann Ghia. I thought it sounded better than the header systems for Volkswagens But no one seems to make them anymore
You guys have got to keep and protect this Bug. It's an antique now, and from the looks of it,it's a real good one.
Enjoyable video,..thanks again!
the brothers four
Jobs done, nobody died, and nothing caught fire. Worst of all, no blood was spilled.
You'll be back in there in about 2 weeks to re-do something, guaranteed. At which time, there will be flames, and blood, then it will run like a champ forever! :D
You hear a deeper chirp using the og oil bath air cleaner.. my 67 was sweet before i changed out the muffler for a wrap around quiet one.. now it sounds like a porsche
Nice stereo for the VW.
Never thought that the motor sound was made that way.
My dad had three of those VW 's.
WD 40 is not a penetrating fluid guys. It's a water displacer. Thus, we have the abbreviation "WD." Love your video., guys.
Millennials...too young to remember stereos with pop-out faces so as to discourage potential thieves. Early 90s "tech," by the way. Haha Anyway, I can't get enough of this series -- keep 'em coming, boys!
Patrick Curran they’re too young to know that pioneer premier was the opposite of Walmart special in the 90s and early 2000s
Millennials...too young/clueless to appreciate HD radio and a Pioneer Premier deck. Thing probably already had the aftermarket wiring harness set up. They go and replace it with a cheap Chinese retro looking stereo...
I thought the same thing when I read it. Premier was as good as eclipse head units back in the day. Very sought after when I was in high school!
I'm only 16 and I know tons about audio quality. Pioneer premier head units or alpine head units were the classic goldies. Now it's some offbrand head unit people use. Kenwood and jvc have a lot of power output nowadays as well
There's millennials over 30 years old.
There are sport and Monza exhaust pipes for that type of bug you can buy at ebay to make it sound a bit better
My mum had three of these models in the 80s. Red, electric metalic blue and pine metalic green.
Love that I H hat. Because I'm an International Harvester person. LOL basically 7.3 diesel in Fords. Love the old VW. So much fun to drive. And so easy to work on. But my wife has an 04 convertible new Beetle and I haven't 05 convertible. Bought them cheap and use it as a commuter car. I have a 5-speed hers is an automatic. Love that 5-speed. I wonder if I could make the new Beetle sound like the old ones. LOL you never know. You guys do a good job on the videos. I love that you actually make a video and you get along and help each other. So many TH-camrs want to cut down each other and make a big stink all the time. Using a bunch of profanity. I don't see a need for that. Thanks again, God bless
The deck lid always leaks on the radio on the stock radio the top was solid no holes I had new gasket and I had to cover holes on top of mine the new tip will rust in two months
The muffler only has baffles. The tips have fiberglass, so, the tips are part of the muffler system! Cheers!
My Baja bug had the radio pulled out when I bought it and I used it as a safety back up. If I accidentally left the keys in the ignition and locked the doors I was able to open the hood and pull the keys through the radio slot
Good work guys. I've been bitten by the Bug. The only cure is to watch more VW videos 😁
One thing you need is a channel lockvpliers ser and vise grips set to put in your box alobg with good screw drivers set. PB Blaster is much better at penetrating than wd40. Add one good speaker mounted in rhe rear rhis way you two can take full advantage of that great stereo you purchased. I'll be following you two You have a great first project car rhats totally awesome 👍👋👋👋
PB Blaster IS THE SHIT.
With the new tips you have the old sound back - that's boring. On my first beetle (back in 1982) I removed the perforated sheets from the inside of the tips. That made a cool sound and looked original.
On my later 1957 beetle I installed a larger engine and a Brazilian sound pipe, but that's another story.
Guys actually you should've opted for an original Blaupunkt am/fm radio. They were actually quite good sounding and if I recall correctly they had only one knob instead of two.
Just wait till you feel the power and the roar of dual webers! It will change your life!
keep them videos comin' kids!;)
They already sound mega amazing from the factory. Truly a unique car! The only car nicknamed after a bug beetle (animal) that actually looks like one. We grew up with em. Love the sound. Love the vehicle. Wish they'd make all the models from beginning to end again even with a hybrid and all electric version but with a button on the electric version to put on and off that famous beetle tweeting sound. Los geht's Deutschland. Auf Wiedersehen, PROST
the distinctive bark of the horizontally opposed four love it to bits
Actually, the tips are the mufflers.....the component you are sliding them into is the heat exchanger. The exaust pipes are encased in the chamber and there is airflow through the chamber for your heater/defogger.
There is no baffling in the heat exchanger.
Greetings again from South Africa. I've also noticed that some Karman Ghia models also make this iconic beetle churp n sound
Premier is not a cheap radio. Premier is a step up from Pioneers regular models. Which usually have more power on the outputs, better sound processor, advance equalizers and has a longer warranty. And your so-called Walmart special, Premier by Pioneer is not sold at Walmart.
I had to wait for the end for the best line... 'but noooobody died!' made my day!!
Good job boys for keeping your beetle stock.
I would have put non baffled tips on it personally.
whats the difference?
@@mysteriousstranger4882 about $4.00
Sorry couldn't resist.
Theoretically non baffled would sound the same as just straight muffler but still look proper
You can pull the inserts out. I did it on mine and sounds good.
you guys should use ATF and Acetone blend for penetrating oil it's the best
From the looks of it this exhaust is like five years old. The suffer a lot of strain due to intense heat and need to be replaced regularly. Don't bother with stainless, won't make no difference - only way more expensive.
Great series, keep 'em coming!
Now this is a story all about how
this bug got flipped, not upside down;
and Mike would like to take a minute, just sit down now...
he and Tommy tell you how to remove a sh;$ radio from a Bug called "Super"
In the front slopes of Colorado, born and raised;
Bandimere was where they spent most of their days.
Chillin' out maxin', relaxin', air-cooled
all shootin some flames from exhaust tips, old-school
When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started TFL... there goes the neighborhood.
They made one car review and then Roman got scared;
he said: "Now you make reviews with the tall-one and the bear".
Carcaine You win the Internet today! Lmfao Great play on the FPoBA theme.
Agreed!
best comment ever it should be pined
The chirping sound is natural to the VW boxers, due to it's valves operation. One can minimize the sound, like you did, but never get rid completely.
Anyway, I just LOVED that new retro-look stereo ! Where did you get it ?
Does anybody knows an online store that can ship one of those to Brazil ?
Great job guys, your channel is fun, entertaining and very interesting for VW enthusiasts !
J bugs . Com I don't no if they ship to brazil they are located in California u.s.
I bought the entire kit, including that radio. Did you have any problem getting it past the wiper motor? I had to take the face off the radio and reinstall it through the radio slot in the dash. I have a 72 standard Type 1.
I love the tweeting sound of the Beetle but I have one question. Why did the fuel injected models introduced in 1975 lose that sound?
Same reason FI Harley Davidson bikes sounds different they don't have that classic lope. The FI has a different cam and rpm range among other things.
Old Volkswagens are on the list of best car sounds ever, ahead of EVERY v8
Not a rover v8.....they top the list....
I would disagree, my V8 Audi S4 sounds better than my brother’s 1968 1776cc Beetle
Wrong
that radio is actually a very very high end unit from pioneer, but if it didnt work then it didnt work lol. Good video
Greetings from South Africa. Is it possible to modify the stock exhaust to remove the churping noise? Yes, it is definitely iconic to the beetle and I like it but I've also heard some stock exhausts on Beetles without the churping sound in the past. My dad had a Karman Ghia which also made the Beetle churp sound. It has since been handed over to a family relative.
Was always told "if your valves are out of adjustment the bug will not tweet" so if it stops making the tweeting sound, your valves need to be adjusted.
In the same vein as big green, it is time to reach out to an air-cooled performance engine manufacturer to see if they will sponsor a huge power upgrade. I am thinking 200 hp should do nicely and perhaps a small lift and Baja bug treatment for this little guy. Then retry Gold Mine Hill. Could be fun. Good video gents.
they sell fiberglass bodies for baja bugs...much better to use modern suspension and a tube frame is way stronger, safer. plus you dont hack up a classic bug
stickloaf Good insights.
Only thing is it's a super
or slam it down!
The hot tip was an EMPI extractor exhaust and an 010 Mechanical advance distributor.
You guys are Great !!! You had me ROTFL with the Mini German Harley comment ! Love it !!! Keep up the good work ! I own an all original 1965 bug now but have owned 13 throughout my lifetime. Even owned the one driven in the movie "Chances Are" by Robert Downey Jr and Cybil Sheppard but lost it in a nasty Divorce... LOL but that's a whole other story... Anyway just wanted to comment on you guys and tell you thanks for keeping the Vee Dub alive on your channel !!!
That radio will look good in big green
WD40 is not a penetrating oil, it's a very light water displacing lubricant. For the same price, you can by PB Blaster at any auto parts or hardware store
Best sounding exhaust on classic bugs = turbo. Muffler if you feel you must, but my 6.5 turbo sounds SWEET through an empty cat. Imho. Y'all are a good team.
Good to see young people liking old vw bugs.