Style Theory: The Great Pocket Conspiracy!
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Have you ever wondered why your pockets are SO small, Loyal Theorist? If not, then you're probably a dude. You see, women’s pockets are notoriously known for being tiny and useless. But WHY are they so small? This is a conspiracy that goes deep! So watch to find out who killed women’s pockets.
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You can imagine how excited I was when I realized that my wedding dress had pockets. One of the funniest parts of my wedding video is when I pulled a tissue out of my pocket and you can audibly hear all of the women in the room gasp.
omg I literally gasped reading this, imagine my gasp added onto the audio lol
I gasped as well
Oh my god that is amazing 🤣
Not even a girl yet I still gasped
:o
Mat Pat: gamer, film connoisseur, ultimate foodie, and now a fashionista. He’s finished the main story line and now he’s working on the side quests of life
I thought the same once I saw Snoop Dog's cookbook in a white girl store. Great to see someone work so hard and achieve the best, settle down and begin side quests 🥳
He has something to entertain anyone
OH OH OH GTLIVE IS THE SIDE QUEST DLC
when he completes all his side quests he'll ascend to a higher standard and become a divine being.
best day of our lives 😎
The fact that the women on Team Theorists demanded a pockets episode at the announcement of the channel just goes to show how deprived of pockets we really are.
cope
@@cornpuffs1357 unnecessary
Bless them!
@@Linkfan1989 Bless them with POCKETS IN DRESSES BIG ENOUGH TO FIT A LOAF OF BREAD!
@@cornpuffs1357 Corden
It's crazy that we went from "if you carry something, you're poor" to "if you don't carry something, you're poor". Just like we went from being pale meant you didn't have to work outside and you were wealthy, and now if you're tan it means you have the means to tan all day instead of working. It's a luxury.
Or you're pale because you care about your skin.
@@Pip8448or your anemic 😅
Also with fatness to skinniness
As a man I have seen women buying clothes with pockets and then cutting them off and sewing the holes shut. So very clearly there a i huge demand for women's clothing without pockets. That's why it's made.
As a chick never heard of that type of stuff til now
I remember as a kid shouting "IT HAS POCKETS" when my grandma gave me a new dress, I had it for a month and was at the mall when I finally noticed and everyone around us stopped and looked at me, a few women cheered and the men with them laughed.
This is so cute and relatable 😂😂😂
I've done that that so many times
when your friend is giving a fashion show of their new clothes and they try on a dress, and slip their hands into pockets and immediately you both yell “IT HAS POCKETS!!!.”
Same
I did this with a skirt of mine just last year. Imagine a 25 year old standing in the middle of walmart just gasping and screaming "Mom! I have POCKETS!" to a woman three aisles over lmao
My sisters wedding dress was gorgeous and she got tons of complements on it. Her response to every single one was "Thanks! It has pockets too!". You couldn't tell they were there, but she happily showed everyone how they were hidden within as all the women were immediately as excited about the pockets in this dress as she was. Such a simple thing.
if i had a dress that has big pockets i’d definitely flex about it too lmao
Dresses with hidden pockets gets every girl excited 😂😂
@@sikka6440 And it's so easy, too. Just a slit in the seam of the skirt. It's less effort than a pants pocket!
My dress for homecoming my junior year of high school had huge pockets in the skirt. I felt so helpful! I carried around all my friends’ wallets and keys all night.
Lucky. Bet she looked great, too! 😄
As a woman, the best feeling ever is is buying a clothing item, and realizing after you bought it, that it has secret pockets.
Meanwhile I'm over here as a guy who's happy if he has smol pockets, cause I barley use em
Yeah, that exactly happened with my prom dress it had a pockets and I didn’t even notice and it was the best surprises ever. All the girls were so jealous of my pocket dress. I could hide so many snacks and my phone without needing a bag, life changer.
amen sista, amen
@@zoainaiip That sounds absolutely amazing! 🤩
#BestFeelingEver
I recently discovered that one pair my brother’s pants has a pocket INSIDE another pocket. And it’s just as big. These are regular slacks. We were both so confused as I stood there in pants with FAKE pockets.
I have a TINY pocket inside a FAKE pocket
Matpat went all the way from ruining childhoods since 2011, to being a fashionista. Props to that man 👏
@@NotRllyCloudy fr tho
Fr tho.
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Lol 😂
As a woman I had always believed that the reason why pockets on our pants just disappeared is because of the purse and handbag industry, I’m glad you guys did a style theory on this!
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Same but also all the pants/shorts I have just have fake pockets
The question I’m asking is there are many fashion companies owned and managed by women, why don’t they make properly pocketed clothing if they want them so much?
@@InfernalBlizzard1715 one quick google search would have told you that only 15% of the 50 biggest fashion brands are owned by women. so basically they just don't have enough sway on the fashion industry as a whole.
There is something so wholesome about complimenting a woman on her dress only for her to give you an adorable smile and say "Thank you! It has pockets!" while putting her hands in said pockets. It's one of my favorite interactions to have with a stranger from both sides. I love my dress pockets, but it's always so fun to see that another woman has found yet another dress she loves that also has pockets.
Heck, I don't even wear dresses but even i find ones that have pockets cool whenever i see them. There've been multiple times when I'm in a clothing store and see a dress with pockets and just go "YOOOOOOOO NEAT!" in my head XD
It’s a cute phenomena all women across the board will do a pose to show off their skirt pockets.
as a woman who does that a lot, its fun for us too (:
I love m u dress pockets 😍
I have literally stood in a bathroom looking up the dress that someone else was wearing while they helped. It was one of those "I love your dress" "thanks it has pockets!" "REALLY?" "Yeah, [store name] for [price]" interactions.
I (36F) needed black dress pants for a retail job a while back. I went to like 15 stores looking for a pair that was A) durable enough to last more than a few weeks, B) made of a fabric that wouldn't pick up dust or lint specks if you looked at it wrong, C) had pockets deep enough to hold a box cutter and a sharpie without them falling out when you crouch to pick things up (I took my box cutter with me while shopping to check), and D) didn't wrinkle easily.
I ended up having my retired military dad take me to the closest Navy exchange and buy me a pair of *their* women's dress slacks (I paid him back of course). I took those pants to a local dry cleaner to get them tailored to fit me and pockets added.
They didn't have any pockets at all by default, but it turns out tailors can generally add stuff like that to almost any pants that aren't skintight. For not as expensive as you'd think.
It cost me like $100 all in all (pants + tailoring and this was like 8 years ago so it'd probably be more now), but those pants fit me perfectly without needing a belt, looked great, had wonderful pockets, and lasted me several years even though I didn't go easy on them. Zero regrets.
honestly the amount of joy we get when we find out our dress has pockets just shows how much we're in need of it 😂
Right! I found out my PJ set has pockets and I was so Ecstatic. My husband was very confused why I was happy.
Agreed. I show my friend a pretty dress and they are like "cool" but if I show them it has pockets we all go feral 😂
@@ohhmangos How would you feel if you had Minecraft pockets
@@ADMICKEY Very nice, yes
I've noticed that multiple brands I buy from will often have a picture on a product page of a model putting her hands in the pockets just to show how functional they are. I've seen ads built around dresses having pockets. It's honestly kinda hilarious.
I remember being in line at an attraction at Disney World and saw my wife pull something out of her dress pocket. I blurted out "woah that dress has pockets that's so cool!" When the lady in front of us told my wife I was a keeper I didn't really get it but my wife laughed about. Now I know why it was a big enough deal for them to have that exchange.
Sir, you have no idea how deep this goes, and props to your wife for choosing wisely. 👍
Your wife is a lucky lady! We have been fighting for pockets lol
i dont get why this is significant? because you allowed her to have pockets? what? or u were ok with it?
@@zachstarattack7320 it’s significant because he noticed
I had 3 pairs of jeans that drove me crazy because of tiny, useless front pockets. Started to get rid of them. But then my brain woke up. I simply cut the bottoms off the inside fabric of the pockets and added extensions cut from scraps of fabric. (It didn't matter what color scraps I used, because they were inside where they didn't show.) Now I have deep pockets and the jeans were saved from a landfill.
Yup. Had to get a blazer for work recently and whaddya know? No pockets. Which would be fine except no slacks I could find had pockets either. Ffs I don't know how I'm supposed to work without pockets, it's not like I can carry a purse around. So I mutilated an old pair of men's slacks and did a pocket transplant. Now you can't even tell the difference. :D
I've seen pants where they even HAVE full size pockets but they're sewn shut... and in a permanent stitch too. You can finagle them loose if you're really careful but man... what an insult.
@@vectorwolf ok thats just MOCKERY at that point
The needle wins again
@@vectorwolf I've gone across that too with pants! But, a seam ripper and a needle and thread later, I had real pockets. I had the same issue with my je a's n jacket. Worse though. We hen I ripped the seam, the pockets were huge and had hidden pockets. Why not promote that?
I went to a masquerade ball and I remember hearing that one of the women's ball gowns had pockets and we all got excited
Yeah, who wants to carry a purse or leave their purse somewhere unattended while dancing? Where would women put their keys, phone, or essentials. Plus, public phones have diminished.
And not everyone drives to be able to keep things in their car. Citynerd talked about how he didn't drive to a Walmart and they wouldn't let him in cause he was carrying a backpack. They told him to put it in his car. Which he didn't have.
“It has pockets” is the most fun thing to hear a female friend say when she’s wearing something new. 😂 Keep calm and pocket on!
Have you asked them why they keep buying clothes without pockets?
@@jypsridic because I need clothes and I can't find any with pockets unless I go shopping for like three hours.
@@infinitepossibilities2862 the men's section is full of them. It takes two seconds.
@@jypsridic Sure, but, and this might sound crazy, men's clothes aren't made with the female form in mind. Ever tried wearing a unisex shirt? In trying to appeal to both men and women, they just end up looking like you're wearing a paper shopping bag. Women should have stylish options that are form-flattering and has pockets. Buying men's clothing is simply settling and doesn't solve the problem.
When two of my girls got their first dresses with pockets at age 3 they were super excited. That’s how deep the problem of pockets goes. Their 5 year old brother had pockets in his pants and they never did. Seriously, my 6 month old nephew had functional pockets in his pants and my 3 year old girls’ pants didn’t. Ridiculous.
I mean, I do belive that at these ages, you (or your companion) are the one to buy the clothes.
So, why didn't you buy pocketed clothing sooner?
Are the more expensive?
Isn't it possible to sew pockets onto existing clothes?
I don't know one bit about that matter, so my question are plain candid, I don't even know your country.
@@mylittleparody2277 there were not options for pocketed clothing sooner for girls. There are functional pockets in the pants for my infant boys, but not for my infant girls. The pockets in my boys’ clothes at 5 years old are much bigger than the options for my girls’ clothes at the same age and size. It’s ridiculously sexist.
Adding pockets to clothing is not in my skill set. Build a house from the foundation up? That I can do, but sewing doesn’t come as easily to me.
@@lmw716 Well, yeah, clothing is sexist. Historically, it's one of the way to discern gender, so that's normal that men and women clothing are different.
As for why women/girl don't have pocket, that's an other question.
I know that in some place of the world, consumer's group are powerful. maybe seek for one and write a letter/contact clothing manufacturer?
Each one have it's skillset. It's awesome that you can build a house from the fundation!
Sometimes I put my toddler in an outfit that has more functional pockets than my own (because I stupidly assumed the pockets on the pants I was buying myself were real and not just decorative, ugh).
@@TheLionPear Ugh I hate that. There is no worse feeling then trying to put your phone in the pocket of a new pair of jeans only to have it slip right past a ledge of useless extra fabric.
I'm so happy that someone is talking about this. I have been trying to explain my frustration with women's pockets to my male friends, but they never understood its importance. Thank you Matpat.
I've even been ridiculed for putting my phone in my back pocket. I was told I should put it in my front pocket. Excuse me, where?? My front pockets fit a single key, maybe. If the pants I happened to be wearing that day even had front pockets in the first place.
So then I complained about womens pants never having big pockets and I was told to just buy men's jeans. Gosh, if only I fit those. Men's jeans fall of my waist
Oh cool I was just about to thank matpat thank you for doing it for me, but still thank you matpat
Ok CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW WOMANS HEELS CAN KILL A MAN YA SURE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT THE WOMAN WHAT ABOUT THE MEN
Yeah, My husband never understood why I would give him everything to hold (I hate purses, my clothes should have enough space for keys, wallet and phone. Sorry) and I'm like you can't fit a hand in my pant pockets let alone anything else. He inititally didn't believe me but then tried and realized how true it was. Meanwhile his pockets go from his waist to mid thigh.. c'mon now.
@@firasal-tell How does a high heel being sharp sexist against men. It’s not sexist at all and can be used as a weapon against anyone. Also, a knife is better and using a shoe as a weapon is useless.
Ruining your childhood 1
Ruining your childhood 2
Ruining your recipes
Ruining your fashion sense
He really has ruined a lot of our lives, I am here for it.
frr
Fun fact, one day I saw a comic that joked about fitting a newborn into a man's pocket. My wife and I decided to carefully see if we could fit my then newborn daughter snugly into it. And yes, it was just big enough. I have carried the entire contents of my wife's purse in my pockets, I used to go on band trips with my phone, wallet, keys, 2 NintendoDS snacks, etc. in them.
I also wore carpenter jeans with the extra side pockets, but the fact remains that men's pockets are SIGNIFICANTLY bigger. Even my son had pockets when he was 4 that could carry my wife's flip phone completely, but her pockets could not.
Dude, when little boys have pockets big enough to hold my phone while mine don’t, that really hurts my feelings. 🤣
I am so glad that you covered this. I, and every woman I know, has been complaining about this for *years* and I keep hearing things like, "That's not true," "women don't WANT pockets or women's clothes would HAVE pockets," or (the bane of my personal existence), "just buy MEN'S pants; boom, problem solved."
I cannot fully express the sheer and utter horror I felt not four years ago when I was looking for work pants and came across a pair of women's cargo pants with decorative pockets.
Anyone who says to "just wear men's clothing" has never felt the pain of not being able to pull your pants up past your knees because your hips and thighs are dummy thick. Or the equally terrible feeling of going up a size or two and having the pants sag because of your waist/hip ratio
@@magnus6609 Get the bigger size and go to a tailor. I discovered that tailors aren't that expensive for regular tailoring (not having to do with weddings or events)
@@wynnyx7071 I'll keep this in mind for when I wear something other than sweatpants lol
@@magnus6609 hahaha completely understood.
@@magnus6609 Too true.
I was just passing by the woman’s section of a clothing store when this group of girls came in and just sort of split up to look for their own clothing. I then hear one of them say “Hey! These pants have deep pockets!” And I kid you not, all of them came running to where she was in a hurry.
That’s amazing. I’ve seen this happen too haha
I'd join them as a complete stranger if I heard that 😂 they're just so rare
13:02 I agree Mat in high school I had a history teacher that would by male jeans and dresses with pockets because “ if everyone buys male pants and dresses with pockets the women fashion company will be scrambling to fix an issue that shouldn’t exist”
I knew someone who had her wedding dress tailored to have pockets, and honestly when I saw her pull out her vows from her pocket I exploded with happiness.
I mean, sure yeah, i was also happy that she was getting married, but GIRL HAD POCKETS IN HER WEDDING DRESS
love the priorites honestly, this is such a mood
she and you had your priorities straight
This, this right here is the ultimate goal of the movement to take back pockets.
@@ThroughGrace88 As someone who's shifted to wearing men's jeans FOR the pockets, I totally get why it was never a thought. It's crazy to see how gender has defined the evolution of clothing!
My mom designed her own wedding dress and she did this exact same thing.
Better decision than the wedding for sure hahaha.
i still love how matt pulled "fashion, darling!" out of NOWHERE
you can tell he's a theater kid
That was funny tbh 😂
Once a theater kid, always a theater kid.
You can take the kid out of theater, but you can't take theater out of the kid.
My mom literally makes my family dresses with the biggest built in pockets she can manage, you can't even see them but when I told my friends, they shoved their phones in my dress and we all celebrated
So like cargo pants but cargo dresses?
@@cleverman383 eyup, pretty much
@@TazzzzzzzzManian that’s awesome
So why do you keep buying dresses that don't have pockets?
@@jypsridic see here, I don't, if I need a dress, my mom makes it with cargo pants pockets
I asked my mom about it once, and she said, and I quote, “Because they make you look fat” 😭
sexist and fatphobic? thats crazy
i also told my grandma who i assume lived in a something-ist world as a child that i want to wear a purple dress for my high school prom and she said that i look darker
I WORE THE SAME THING DURING MY UNCLES WEDDING WITHOUT BATTING AN EYE, SHES JUST THAT WEIRDLY RACIST???q?!?
Sorry your mom is evil
@@arlynnecumberbatch1056Sexism and fatphobia are normal.
Yup, can confirm. When a piece of women's clothing has _functional_ pockets it is genuinely one of the most happy/exciting finds on an entire outfit. For most of high school I straight refused to wear "women's" clothes because it just wasn't practical or cost effective; I could go to the men's section, get better quality clothes for a MUCH better price. For pants I just re-stitch the bottoms so they don't drag (and double perk was it is far less of a puzzle trying to find the right size!). Nearly all of my shirts to this day are from the men's section because they get the comfy thick cotton rather than the itchy thin (nearly see through) cotton and I'm spending at _least_ half as much for the same, if not better, shirt.
most based ever
Usually, I just like to modify the men’s clothes when I get home to attach it to how I like it. Too baggy? Modified!
(Side note: please make sure you watch out for your sizes. (And width) I sometimes accidentally make it too tight
@@SimonWoodburyForget imagine you don't have any pockets to store money or paper or anything in the whole damn summer wardrobe
I got a dress from a charity shop and it is one of my favourites simply because of the pockets. The pockets go from hip to mid thigh! I never need to take a bag with me!
I'm fully with you on this. Women's clothes almost feel suffocating while men's clothes actually feel like they're letting you breathe. I also don't really like the flashy style most women's clothing has.
My fiance likes to tease me about how I react to dresses with pockets. I'll always, without fail, yell out "OH MY GOD! POCKETS!" He finds it hilarious while every female I know immediately asks where I bought it because they want one. Pockets are a luxury for women, and we get adorably excited when we find something cute with them. I actually really like that you did this video. It shows all our struggles with pockets in a very educational way.
Why do you keep buying clothes without pockets then?
@@jypsridic Because clothes with pockets are really hard to find here. Or really expensive.
@@myrablacktail2403 Men's clothes are typically cheaper though. I think you're lying.
What's stopping you from buying men's clothes?
@@jypsridic They either don't fit or aren't cute. I'm still a woman. I like to look pretty.
@@myrablacktail2403 If you choose aesthetics over function that's fine, but stop complaining that companies are making clothes that place aesthetics over function, it's what you're demanding in the only way that matters.
Also, your pants don't change how pretty you look.
I recently, just for the heck of it, tried on a pair of men's jeans. And to my utter shock and surprise was overcome with anger because of the following two things:
1. Men's jeans fit my hips and waist way better than any women's jeans ever did, and I've got a bit of a curve to myself
2. I could fit my hand well past my wrist into the front /and/ back pockets
Needless to say, I've bought those jeans. And multiple other pairs. They're my favorite jeans now.
If you're a woman thinking about trying on men's jeans just for the heck of it, do it. You might be a bit limited in terms of sihlouette, color and accessorization, but otherwise, men's jeans are just superior. Try them on, and marvel at just how comfortable jeans can be.
You've summed up exactly why 98% of my pants and shorts are mens' styles. I own one pair of women's skinny jeans for certain occasions, and one pair of short-shorts for those especially balmy summer days here in Florida and because my boyfriend likes them. Neither have significant pockets. My men's pants all have pockets for days.
Once my boyfriend tried to make me stylish and gave me one of his jeans... that was the moment when I realised that how much more pocket space and freedom of movement these give... now I refuse to wear women's jeans and I only have one pair for serious occasions like exams or job interviews
@@ewellynn122 Plus the sizing is so much more consistent, since the numbers indicate actual literal measurements.
Not like women's clothes, which are just arbitrary numbers decided by some committee and rarely consistent across brands. I'm anywhere between 6-10 buying pants, and can be XS-L for tops.
@@HumbleWooperseriously the sizing makes no sense at all, i wear a 1 in one size a 9 in another and a 13 in another it’s insane!
Ok, you've convinced me, after I get a corset, men pants are next.
As a person who sews, I have been angrily denouncing this crime of pocket murder for a while. Everyone deserves storage!
I sew too. I'm teaching myself how to draft my own patterns. All will include pockets
I would love an episode about inconsistent sizing, which mainly happens with bras but also jeans (and pretty much everything else, realistically). For women's clothing, it's almost a requirement to try the items on when buying jeans because you can have two of the same exact pairs of jeans (brand, style, everything) and they'll fit differently. This is likely due to the manufacturing process, but I _hate_ trying on clothing in-store. Why is creating consistent and universal sizing so difficult?
What sucks is that men have better sizing. For example pants; women have numbers like 4 or 6 which is arbitrary whereas men get stuff like 34x42 or something, giving the waist size and the length of the leg. Why can't they do something for woman pants? But to your point yes, it's crazy that you can be a small in one brand's clothes but be a large in another brand.
MY TAGS ON MY JEANS IS LITERALLY 13/32 SOMETHING! WHAT DOES IT MEAN?! THE OTHER PAIN OF JEANS WAS LIKE 9/21
It happens to anything honestly...my best example is tops with me fitting into my XXS top while my jacket is barely my size at XXL
because greed is a thing
Vanity sizing! Expensive cloths for "older" ladies will make you think you need a smaller size so you feel better buying them.
But yeah, size seems to be pretty random.
Pockets are simultaneously the best and worst thing in women's clothing depending on what type of clothing you're wearing... In jeans they're ridiculously small, in leggings they're notoriously non-existent, and in dresses they're the first thing you loudly proclaim the second someone compliments the dress (the fabulous "THANKS IT HAS POCKETS!!!" moment). I've always wanted to know the backstory about women's pockets, this was an excellent theory to start with!!
I hope that he does an episode on the frustration of bra sizing someday. That's another similar issue with women's clothing 🤣
In all the pants I have worn, I have almost NEVER had pockets. Also, how exciting is it when you find pockets in your dresses? I don't wear dresses that much, but I am still excited when I find pockets in dresses
in jackets they're either really bad and things fall out or absolutely massive and ugly :')
While I agree with the bra thing, I hope that that episode would include steph to give a personal account of someone who actually has to deal with this problem daily.
If you’re wanting to know, sweats usually have pockets
@@lazybee8201 yeah but you couldn't really wear those to dinner
This whole "small/fake woman pocket" thing has gotten so bad that it's not even pants anymore, it's jackets too💀
Yeah I have this amazing hoodie I love, but it has no pockets, not even small ones.
Because women are supposed to wear dresses. And have little reason to carry anything outside a diaper bag
@@liberalistbat6352 what are women supposed to do? 😂
It's basically physics and the result of what women want. Maybe women should shut up?
@@hlaw2830 it's obviously not what women want if we keep on asking for big pockets.
When I was younger, I noticed that most of the women at my church were wearing dresses or skirts despite the freezing winter. I asked my mom to buy me some pants for church (specifically with deep pockets) and I felt so proud walking into the building wearing my brand-new pants with pockets.
I found that recently, big pockets are coming into style for women because of the baggy pants fashion trend that is coming into style. I used to never have pockets on any of my pants, now big baggy and pocketted pants are all I own. Its even in my dresses, I literally only buy dresses with pockets now. Companies are definitely catching on
MY BAGGY JEANS ARE THE ONLY JEANS I HAVE THAT CAN CARRY MY STUFF
A lot of those "baggy" jeans are really nothing more than the same fit as a pair of men's standard straight-leg jeans. Aka, the practical, comfortable ones. I'm glad you finally have them, I'm just sad they're considered special.
@@Just_A_Dude I agree mostly with your sentiment, but I can tell you they are not quite the same fit. I can not wear men's jeans, I have actually tried before. It's the one reason I've always bought women's jeans and suffered the small pockets, because I did not have a choice.
@@Arissiah Sorry, to clarify, I don't mean _actual_ men's jeans. I mean the ones some brands call "boyfriend jeans." They're fitted to a female figure, but have the more relaxed proportions typical of men's "working" denim.
I'm a woman who loves pockets since I was 5! So I used to wear my dad's outfits as a kid for pockets. As an avid pocket lover, I appreciate this theory to teach me the history of it. I always aimed to buy pants with decent sized pockets as I love to place my whole wrist in it when I go out during cold weather.. (My hands get cold very quick on cold weather).
It's nice to see someone with common sense in this day and age.
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thats why i go to guys pants for pants so i can have pokets💀
If you like leggings, I know of a store where I found pocketed pants. I have I think 7 pairs of their pants, and am looking to get more.
@@chickennbeans1888 I do wear leggings. Please tell me the name of the store. Hopefully I can find here in Florida.
Funny true story. I went to buy clothes with my wife, and she was looking on some skinny jeans. She lends and asks what I think about it, first thing I do: reach for the pockets. I was mind blown when I found there was no pocket, even though the lines where there, I ask: "What about the pockets?", she replies "What pockets? Women pants don't have pockets!" And I was: "WTF?"
it's such a scam, those stupid fake pockets can't even hold a penny they're so shallow
Bro sometimes there isn't even a pocket, its literally just a decorative seam sown to look like a pocket.
I have to buy men's pants but it's not comfortable 😢
@@CiciChessDuluth trading company makes women's pants with men's size pockets
@@CiciChessbuy men's skinny jeans. It might be slightly more comfortable for you. If you have small-ish thighs that is. For larger thighs, still use men's jeans, just buy some larger ones.
THANK YOU for doing an episode on this!! I've always been one to carry alot on my person when out and about, and I always knew women's pockets sucked, however I didn't realise how bad it was until I began wearing men's pants and was SHOCKED at the amount of stuff I could carry with room to spare.
I bought my first pair of jeans from the men's section last week and I am furious about what levels of euphoria I was missing out on all my life. Truly outrageous!
Truly! I ONLY but pants in the mens section! I bought some SHORTS in the mens section that had pockets that I could fit my SWITCH in, my whole Nintendo switch in a pair of SHORTS and you couldn't even tell they were THERE.
Look I’m 16 and I’ve been only buying male pants for years, their pockets are bigger, the waist is higher, and their looser on your legs honestly I hate the modern trend of women liking tight pants. My women’s pants size was like XL but my male size is M. So welcome to the club of women buying male pants we’re happy to welcome you
the only problem with men's jeans as a women is all the chafing in the thighs! and the fact that to get a size ANYWHERE near your waist size, you need to be up at the crack of dawn!
@@kayleighapthorp7954 A whole SWItch?? What else could they be keeping in those pockets? What are they hiding from us!
@@sofia7816 Thanks you so much! I think we should start the whole Pocket-Riot back up - that sounds like fun!
Actually a pocket opening in skirts using the tie-on pockets were like in every skirt, so it was actually pretty easy to use them. Not to mention the skirt were often pleated and thus hid the opening really well. Even well into the edwardian era this way of hiding pockets were used to great effect. Not to mention, victorian pockets were MASSIVE. So if anything the pockets started becoming smaller after the 1910s. Bernadette Banner has a great video about the evolution of women's pockets
I love Banner's videos.
my school uniform had pockets on a pleated skirt.
@@juliachristine6290 ours didn't, but a lot of girls sewed some on anyway. In my case, I always had the gym jacket on my waist, even in summer 😂
"This conspiracy goes DEEP. (Unlike women's pockets)"
I LOVE THIS WRITING
well, given I have 18th century pockets, mine do go deep
@@SingingSealRiana
you- you have what
I've been ranting about pockets (or lack thereof) in women's clothing for decades! My strategy was to basically dress in men's pants that fit me in flattering outline or coats and jackets that had capacious storage. I am happy to see that designers seems to be paying attention these days. Thank you for the historical context!
I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, not only do we get another great channel from the theorist team (whom I adore for all the hard work they do to not only keep us entretained but also helps us learn about everything)
but we also get the answer we were all waiting to get "WHY ARE WOMEN'S POCKETS SO SMALL OR FAKE?"
i was 100% convinced the last channel would be "conspiracy theory"
@@epicmanpog7846 yeah I also had a bit of a hunch but I believe this is better
Just by men's pants..
A conspiracy about pockets… almost like Matpat had this channel and video hidden… in his pockets… leading to a conspiracy….
(Also subscribed since day one at 4.83k subs 🎉)
That's deep... just like my pockets
@@Edens_Bones (Subscribed day one at less than 100k subs)
thats just a theory
Because he's a man and has pockets big enough to hold both a channel and several videos.
Words cannot describe how happy I am that you mentioned the purse industry's part in small pockets, I've literally been saying that for years. Also, a possible style theory idea: Is it possible to make an outfit or clothing item that can easily tear away, like they do in spy movies and cartoons? Something to think about.
EDIT: Okaay apparently I'm the only one who wasn't aware tearaway outfits are a thing in real life. IDK, I always thought it was some sort of film secret.
tearaway outfits do exist. They generally have a front and a back that are velcro'd together like a sandwich.
yeah they have "magic" performances where that's all they do. look up "clothes change magic". It falls under the category of magic although not really being a magic trick, it's more of a performance.
It was my own supposition, as well, and this video just proved it.
Yea, they exist. Idk what they’re called but are often used in movies when i a character has to rip off clothing
Also, back when I was a kid I owned a pair of flared sweat pants that could “rip away” into a pair of long shorts lol. They were either snap buttons or a zipper… I think you zipped them off!
Do you have a fashion historian on your team? Cuz that line of "if you were lucky, you had a slit in your dress" makes it sound like you didnt... I highly recommend getting one or becoming friends with some of the youtube fashion historians like Bernadette Banner or Karolina Zebrowska
I mean, c’mon folks. Matpat has crazy style, we should’ve known all along.
yep we should
I knew once I saw that a redditor suggested style theory and their post was immediately removed
True true
you right
And you did the same comment on every video didn't u
This really puts into perspective how simple things like pockets used to be viewed so differently. Really makes you appreciate certain things.
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FINALLY! Someone's talking about it. I'm really annoyed with this pocket problem, to the point where I'm tempted to modify my own pants! I miss wearing my brother's old pants just because of the pockets. I could fit multiple packets of chips in them, and NO ONE WOULD KNOW! I was so happy to have a pocket in my matric dress, my brother had to tell me to calm down. I couldn't get over it!
This is why i like overalls 😂😂😂😂
when I was younger, I got these new pants and you cannot describe how excited I was when I figured it out. literally screamed “MOM!! IT HAS POCKETSSS!!!”
The one thing I really hate is fake pockets. I remember buying a pair of shorts only to find that the pockets had been sewn shut, I rip the stitches out. Why would they give it pockets and render them useless? The shorts didn't last as long but I had pockets!
You might gain some insight on this in a quote from Christian Dior, the founder of the Dior brand: "Men have pockets to keep things in. Women, for decoration." Really progressive fellow there.
They also exists in men fashion. Not to the likness of men.
there is a difference between fake pockets that don't exist and pocket that are bast stitched for shipping and anti shoplifting purposes. you had the latter, as the former wouldn't have anything there even if you did rip stitching out.
@@wiseforcommonsense Oh, that makes sense. Still mad about actual fake pockets though
@@viridiantheforest1037 I'm always mad about fake pockets
This video is my wife's favorite thing right now. She loves fashion/clothing history and knew a little bit about the history of pockets. She delighted in telling me little extra tidbits and facts throughout the video. This is gonna be a great channel and congrats on the million subscribers already!
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I will never get over the excitement I get when I instantly check if any dresses I'm given have pockets. The audible gasp upon finding them and then the slightly higher pitch in tone as I exclaim "It has pockets!!!!" and then putting my hands in said pockets to enjoy for a few seconds. Sadly with some that I have currently, even if they fit my whole hand they are wide and if I put my phone in them and sit down my phone flls out, but I still love having them. :3
me: FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABT POCKETS
matpat: i just realized it was an issue
me: seriously? SERIOUSLY!
I found the holy grail of “it’s got pockets” when I found a wedding dress with pockets! I was already in love but throw in pockets and it’s game over. Gonna have a lot of fun running around showing everyone my pockets like the totally mature and fully grown woman I am 😉
I have complete respect for this and would 100% do the same. Also yes, show EVERYONE those pockets!!!!!
Honestly those pockets are the best thing about that wedding dress, and I mean, that thing can have real diamonds dripping off of it and the pockets would still be the selling point!
The "Nice outfit!" "thanks it has pockets" convo has happened many times with me, I only own one dress with pockets and that's because it was modified TwT
It's really cool to think that I was there within the first couple of years of game theory, right at the beginning of film theory, food theory, and now style theory. Long live the theorist community!
*raises up glass of totally kid-freindly drink* Long live the theorist community
Same, I wasn't there at the beginning of Game Theory but a couple years after
Yessir
I get incredibly excited whenever a dress, skirt, or pants have pockets big enough for my phone. Like it makes my day so much better
As a guy- I’ve been complaining about the lack of pockets in my wife’s clothes for years. And only partly because it means she keeps making me hold things for her. Usually keys.
Here's some facts about chatelaines, they are the predecessor of keychains. They only held your more useful tools [keys, watches, writing tablets like dance cards, for example, that you need to be out and ready so you don't have to dig into your pockets. Chatelaines as well shown a person in charge, the clinging of the sound of the chains basically told them "I am the matriarch of the household and you better focus on me."
I also would recommend you to if you're looking for facts in the Victorian era you can look for Bernadette banner, and the other fabulous dress historians around that court of TH-cam. she is quite the expert on the story of corsets, as she was a corset wearer ever since she was young to help combat her scoliosis issues.
Another pocket issue is fake pockets in women's clothing. I used to have a few pairs of jeans (and shirts) from one of my great aunts that had fake pocket flaps sewn onto them, where there could've been fully functioning pockets.
fake pockets are the stupidest thing ever like why have fake pockets when theres plenty of space for REAL pockets?? either have real pockets or no pockets at all cmon
I get so angry when I'm shopping and discover a fake pocket in pants I otherwise really liked
Dude, I get so excited when I go to the store, and find pockets in the dresses! It's wonderful being able to look pretty while have pockets.
Abby Cox has a couple of recent videos about purses and the pockets. Really great stuff if you're really geeky about history. I think she mentioned how the fall of pockets due to the rise in popularity of the purse could also be correlated to the rise of the modern cosmetics industry - i.e. preference to carry cosmetics in a purse vs pockets as you can change a bag much easier than you can rip out a pocket and sew a new one in should there be an accident with cosmetic pigments.
I love abby
@sussy amogus cox is a common last name
Yes! I instantly was mentally comparing this video thay Abby's!
Recently some brands have started making their pockets bigger in women's clothing. I have joggers with massive pockets and even pajama pants with pockets I guess so I can store my midnight snacks. We're thankfully moving in the right direction.
Plus cargo pants are popular again just for the utility pockets
Which brands may I ask?
Everlane pants have great pockets, it fits my phone and wallet. I love cargo shorts, they are fun to wear and don't need a bag.
The way petticotes were made and tied on meant there was always a slit to access your pockets. Those giant pockets are my favorite part of historical dress and they're convenient as long as you wear them between the top two layers
Cool new channel! I'm a small fashion brand and I love putting pockets in my designs, I'm even starting to make portable pockets. I love the cargo trend because of this.
Thank you MatPat! This has always been an issue for me and why I prefer men’s blazers and pajama bottoms. My theory is that they remove pockets so we buy more purses!
Pockets should NOT be exclusively decorative. They should be utilized! In seam pockets in dresses are a miracle at this rate. We need REAL pockets!
Edit: I KNEW IT!
Food theory was a stretch, but this, this is just insane. I'm subbing
yes
@Not gonna lie you are not funny
Exactly
If MatPat ever does something not a bit insane, then it's not him.
I was surprised when he launched Food Theory. I've learned a lot since then, this didn't surprise me at all 😂
My husband and I were LITERALLY discussing this earlier today! I had on a denim skirt that my phone barely fit in and he said it’s so I’d have to buy a purse
Buy fabric and sew pockets in
I mean, the answers were really obvious, but still, its interesting to see the full history of pockets laid out lol
Yep.
Yeah, pretty much summed up.
The main reason I chose the Samsung ZFlip as my current phone was so it could actually fit in my pants pockets. It's small enough when folded to fit in the pockets of both my jeans and sweatpants pretty perfectly.
My mom has a more normal sized phone, so she usually uses her boots to store her phone when she wears them.
The joy some of my classmates and I have felt upon finding PROM DRESSES with POCKETS is crazy! Thanks for giving this frustrating topic a spotlight on the new channel
YEAH RIGHT? When i went prom dress shopping I immediately fell in love with a dress and then the girl helping me said "oh it has pockets". I immediately screamed "OMG POCKETS!!".
Needless to say that as the chosen one.
I was in a murder mystery game and at the end when the guy pulled me into the room to ask me what I thought happened I was sitting there rubbing my hands against the dress and all of a sudden I gasped. He got all excited and said “Did you figure it out!” My response
“My dress has pockets!”
I am a massive space nerd, and a trans man who is not out yet (so yes, I have experienced the suffering of small pockets). As a gift, a relative of mine got me a NASA jacket from their official store, a jacket that is unisex. The pockets are MASSIVE. I can fit my Switch in there. I was never more excited in my life than when I discovered the sheer size of those pockets
Just where men's who cares what the pants say as long as there nice like big pockets
You can wear men stuff without modifying your body btw. The onyl importent thing to appear male is the body shape mostly. You know, the "V" shape.
I hope that when you come out (if you do) your family accepts you, and if they don’t, I do! Also, if you want you could buy a chest binder so you can hide your chest, and wear long shirts, tie the front of the shirt, and stuff it in your pants. It might help? It usually only has a slight bulge on my male days (im genderfluid). You might need to shift it around, but I hope this helps with feeling more comfortable with your body!
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@@Fr0gCh1ld I never thought about tying my shirt, thanks for the advice!
Happy Birthday Style Theory!
something about clothing that has always bugged me when i was younger and still a girl was that my brothers clothes seemed better than mine. they were thicker and tended to be less prone to tears or busted seams. i was always complaining about how thin my shirts were. clothes i have now from the boys section in stores seem to be more comfy, durable, and thick. my style theory that probably is as groundbreaking as a spork? women's clothing is designed to be less long lasting than mens clothing to get women to buy more clothing.
tldr? buy from the mens section. that's where they put all the pop culture t shirts anyways.
Which isn't fair when you like said T-Shirts as a woman. I noticed unless your a certain age demographic, you don't really get to choose much as far as Anime T-Shirts or something at Walmart for example and have to go into the mens to get them otherwise you get plain, flowery, cutesy and more basic design options unless you go to a store that does so purposely (like hoptopic or something) you can't find them at basic stores that carry clothes for women. It's especially worse if you have to have plus size clothing as well. If fact while it's important to be healthy still it's wrong that they shrink and carry less for those that need to wear plus sizes especially considering you need clothes to go out to walk or do any said exercises besides normal stuff in the first place unless you don't mind being a nudest, exposed to the elements or risked getting arrested for indecent exposer you don't get to chose what you like to wear when plus sizes especially as a woman.
@@xKrispmasx women choose this way of fashion. Cornered themselves, maybe y'all get out of it some day just by men's pants and womens pants won't get as much sells and prompt a change but that's not going to happen women chose to by skinny jeans this is fare. just by mens. Why not because it's called men's? And your a women or
Just by men's simple no unfairness.
@@99773-HGG that whole paragraph was incomprehensible
also being more durable while doing hard and dangerous work or hobby.
@@99773-HGG see, unlike razors where it doesn't matter if you buy the men's or women's version, women have these things called breasts which men's clothes don't account for, so unless your fairly flat chested men's clothes just won't fit properly. Similarly there's something men's pants account for that women don't have making men's pants not for properly either :P
I remember at a school dance I found out that morning my dress had pockets. I proudly walked around with my hands in my pockets and every girl stopped and celebrated with me the whole night. I was so excited my friends and I wanted to see how much it could hold, the answer was 2 chik fil a sandwiches EACH
This is so true! I never even realized how much I wanted pockets in my dresses until I got a few, and now all my other dresses are slightly disappointing. Like, I keep reaching for my pockets only to realize they aren't there, and it bums me out
Just where men's jeans then like simple answer..
@@99773-HGG she's talking about dresses, are you illiterate
@@99773-HGG I mean, sure. It's a simple solution, but the point is that we shouldn't have to. We deserve pockets in women's clothing too
@@T_he.Ax_O-loT-l_ Uh deserve or not women choose those kinds of pants y'all get yourselves out of it start buying pants with Bigger pockets more demand for that then it will become popular.
But your to lazy thinking you deserve stuff without putting the work into it?
The reason men have bigger pockets is because we chose that men historically had jobs like being mechanics and other (labor intensive work) through history so men who could fit more wrenches and screwdrivers in their pockets without having to buy a special tool belt for more money.
Best solution don't by purses and get all your friends to by pants with big pockets
I once bought a dress for a wedding, and when I found out that they had pockets I squealed and walked over to my friend and screamed “IT HAS POCKETS!”
Also, when someone wearing a dress says, "Thanks, it has pockets!!" That is a beautiful, pure form of joy.
chatelaines were more like a modern day keychain, lanyard or carabiner, and were most often used by working women. attachments could include any number of useful small household objects, like scissors, keys, thimbles, watches, magnifying glasses, and more. the fancy victorian version of a dad belt!
My mum told me that her grandmother, who would have been alive late 1800s-early 1900s, got in huge trouble with her family and basically disowned for refusing to wear skirts and instead choosing to wear her riding pants out and about. Probably partly because of pockets, but the women on her side of the family definitely kept that fiery Scottish defiance through the generations even after coming to Canada long before. My mum's own mother lied about her age and said she was 16 when she was 15 so she could go to university in the 1940s. I was told she was set to help work on Canada's first computers when she met my grandfather and had to give that up to travel with him for his first year of work as a doctor up north treating the native communities there. She had been gifted a full seal skin outfit by the locals, but when she went back to Toronto because she was pregnant she donated the items to a museum because they would be damaged by the warmer climate. I wish she had kept something, even a pair of mittens
I wonder if my great grandmother was the type to hide weapons in her pockets. I know she had been part of the suffragette movement and wouldn't put it past her to carry something for self defense
@@alexoneil594 bro she sounds awesome
Coming back 10 months later- still amazing.
I’ve had fake pockets, tiny pockets, pockets that you have to turn your phone to put it in your pants, no pockets. Verses my brothers who could fit entire water bottles in their pockets 😭😭😭
I remember in middle school the boys would be putting their TI-84 calculators AND water bottles in their pockets while I'm over here struggling to fit my damn eraser in mine.
My wife was excited that dress pockets came back over the last couple years. Sun dresses are my big love in women's fashion so I was right there with her in the excitement when she wore sun dresses with pockets. Viva la pocket revolution!
I swear when I started wearing "boys" clothes I was amazed about the size of the pockets (I could probably fit my whole life in there)
12:24 this part made me cry
Lmao thank you for explaining why we always excitedly exclaim “thanks! It has pockets!” It’s not secret girl language- we just don’t get them often!!! 😂
I think the oxymoron that infuriated me most as a teenager was "lipstick pocket." Anyone who wore female clothing in the 90's, could you fit a lipstick in that pocket? How about a house key, maybe? ... how about 25 cents? Yeah, exactly. I was so mad at being forced to pay more for this lipstick pocket that served absolutely no function but to hike up the price, (and also dig into my hip more on one side than the other on a packed train), that it's precisely when I started wearing clothes made for males. Never looked back.
Is that what those small inner pockets were suppose to be used for??! I never knew. Man those are dumb.
@RabidFanGirl Yehp, they are officially labeled "lipstick pocket." At least, they were in the 90s. My mother explained it to me because she was wearing jeans when the lipstick pocket was first introduced, (70s, I think), so what that little pocket was supposedly for was in the marketing for female jeans.
@@trinketsphinx3212 You learn something new everyday. I love that marketing companies put more emphasis on giving women lipstick pockets instead of practical pockets. Because that makes sense.
I grabbed my school laptop, just shoved it in my Jean pocket and walked into the next class. Meanwhile, there was a girl in that class that had a phone that was half in the pocket. It was hilarious, like this computer was fully submerged to my blue jeans
either you have a comically large pocket or a comically small laptop, no way i'd ever get my laptop into any pocket other than my hoodies'
@@possibly_ben don't forget a comically large leg
I love how purses are basically expensive versions of the strap on pocket that are even easier to steal and potentially even more valuable than whatever's inside. 👍
My wedding dress had pockets, and literally everyone that saw me wiping out eyeliner or my phone were so impressed XD It's the little things
Im going to watch the FNAF theory first, but I'll come back to watch this as soon as Im finished with it!
I just have this playing in the background and i'll come back later
honestly this always bugged me and seemed so damn unfair that my girl friends all had these false pockets whilst wasting the effort to sew it in, it's nice to have a history lesson on why and more importantly why it's still happening and I'm glad that there's efforts and companies pushing to change that , equalizer being man purses but we got fanny packs and messenger bags already so it's uneven, give ladies their pockets back!!
I guess it's to get women to spend more as they are most likely to spend more. The companies probably have the data tbf
Pocket revolution!!!
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THIS OUT!!!
(whenever pockets of any kind come up, my brother yells "Y'ALL HAVE PURSES - I wish I had a purse" and it leads to a HUGE argument, though, he never actually takes it up with a man who would object to it - namely his dad) (never minding the difference between a purse and a messenger bag, when we're actually talking about the latter - my apologies for ranting, but could your parents please adopt me so you can be my brother instead?)
When I was a teen I bought a pair of pants that looked like it had normal pockets but nope the pockets were sewn shut(front and back). I got a knife and cut the pockets open.
This is the theory that really sold me on the Style Theory concept! 🎉
Thanks for bringing this issue up. I’ll add that one of the worst things about pockets in women’s clothes right now is fake pockets! They’re everywhere! Where they have a seam where one should be, but it’s sewn shut with no actual pocket underneath. That’s just adding insult to injury!
1:54
“I can tell you that this conspiracy goes DEEP, unlike womens pockets”
Surprised this isn’t Smooth Theory
I think one of the funniest parts of pants I have had actual pockets that came sewed shut. Two in the front two in the back, all big enough to hold my phone and wallet, just… sewn shut for no reason.