Diesel Heater Pumped Exhaust Gases into Gas Bottle to Store Heat Energy Storage Experiment Off Grid
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.พ. 2024
- Using Waste Exhaust Gases to Store Heat Energy and make use of wasted exhaust gas heat. This heat would have been wasted. Off Grid Life. PLEASE COMMENT, HOW CAN WE TAKE THIS FURTHER?
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I bought one of these for my garage, and then thought....... I could heat my home with this! So that's exactly what i did! It is working great pumping hot air into my home. It is keeping us nice and warm and super economical.
I have a carbon monoxide detector just in case, but you don't get any fumes indoors at all
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If you could fit a coil to the exhaust inside and out at the top with the bottle 3/4 filled with sand it would be far better. This is because the sand has a far higher specific heat capacity. Great idea!
Ideally you could do with a baffle to difuse the heat across the bottle before it goes out tge exhaust
Nice to see you finally got a thermometer
There's just a couple little problems.
Basically no-one with those things knows how to use them. There's usually a diagram of the "measuring cone" right on the side of the thing. Still most users think they are measuring the temperature right on the spot of the laser, at any distance.
He mentions the shiny surface at some point, that's a good start to understanding emissicivity. How ever, after you understand it, you probably start to tape everything you want to measure with wide (heat resistant) electrical tape. Helps a lot with thermal cameras too.
Emissivity charts are crazy. You only need to check the possible scale of aluminium and copper to lose all hope of getting any actual values from those things. How would you rate the surface in any other case than where you have just sanded and buffed it to be totally pure and clean? Known surface (so, that electrical tape) with known temperature for reference is the way to go, if you want to state some numbers as a result. Otherwise the range is pretty much hot/cold with those two exact values and it's still possible to burn yourself if you touch the "it was cold on the screen" stuff.
At the moment, the hot gas is directed to one place, opposite the inlet. Turn the cylinder upside down, feed the inlet in at a tangent, (at what will then become the top) so that the gas circulates evenly around the wall of the cylinder as it sinks to the bottom and cools. Block-off your original outlet, then take the new exhaust outlet from the centre of the cylinder at the bottom, out through the wall. (What was the valve hole)
Aluminium heatsink maybe a more compact option? Ideally cast some aluminium around a section of exhaust to give the best contact or maybe use your metal putty to get a good contact?
I know you have gas torches, melt aluminium and pour over a small length of exhaust to get those ribs and a 100% (ish) contact.
Total newbie but watched quite a few videos and I would raise the heater a bit and make sure the exhaust is slightly downhill all the way. That made me rethink the position I had in mind for mine, my garden slopes upwards slightly, so I may need to raise the heater a foot or so for the planned 10ft/12ft of exhaust.
great comments thanks andy
Use a small indirect water cylinder filled with sand....
Should have put the exhaust into where the valve was.and the outlet on the bottom where you have it
i did another video with the bottle, the pipe goes from the top.
thank you for your comment did you see my other heater vids, www.youtube.com/@andyfireblade let me know what you think, cheers andy
If you could put the gas bottle inside another container and fill with sand and or firebricks that could be a decent heat store and release heat slowly after the CDH is switched off. arh just got to the end of the vid and you mentioned the same sort if idea its got to be worth a try, good luck
really good idea
thanks my friend
Take too much heat out of the exhaust gases, and you'll get condensation, just like a condensing boiler. Yes, they are more efficient than non-condensing - just be prepared to deal with the condensate.
Thanks for the tips!
Maybe because that Vevor one got banned and they are worried? Not had mine running yet, tinkering with it to make sure its safe and raising it up on blocks like yours.
Poor design on the case because the perfect cut out for the exhaust is on the opposite side to the exhaust outlet, closer to the inlet pipe. Need to make some time to get it running and have a play.
good luck with it... cheers andy
Bottle will fill with condensate...
I was going to say the same. I would have though the gas bottle will have a fair bit of liquid after a few hours? Maybe with enough heat it will clear?
Hi Andy...My two-penneth. If filled with sand, you would need a spring-shaped copper pipe inside the gas bottle as a gas pathway through the sand, then you could cut the top of the gas bottle off, or use a different vessel with a lid. Somehow, you would need to allow for condensation build up to escape, and it builds up when the gases cool. Initially, you would get vapour inside the bottle pipe, however, it would pass out to the exhaust silencer as it got hotter, only when it cools down will condensation occur in the gas bottle, and maybe a drain plug to drain and measure how much. Would it be better to have the heater side going into the top and exist the bottom, or vice-versa? As the back pressure may affect the burn if you connected to the top and the gases had to travel down against natural flow....All facinating. Thanks for the videos. Cheers!
thanks for your great comment. and sharing your good ideas with us all
cheers andy
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So how do you deal with all the back pressure to the heater? Too much and it will carbon up quickly.
true
Are you trying to extract the heat or store it? If extracting so the room warms up faster try bending the pipe from the bottom were it enters now to the top. This will cause the hot gasses to be trapped at the top of the bottle and the cooler ones to escape. Lots of rocket stove mass heater do this with an oil barrel.
good comments thanks andy
Put it on a small car radiator and put a fan behind it
Try a radiator
i did that in another video
please take a look and let me know what you think
cheers andy
Isnt this exactly what you did last time?
yes, soz, uploaded the wrong vid, top marks for noticing .
cheers andy