Thanks Elias, I hope you are able to use the technique as well, I know we've had the most success with this personally and wanted to share it with others!
Which MaxiCrop fertilizer did you use? What concentration would you recommend? Did you add it to the water when you made the thicker mix or the slurry or when you misted it during the 2 weeks?
Awesome, let us know how to works out for you and if it was pretty easy to follow and do the same! Just make sure not to add too much cat litter as it will make it a harder brick, and try to pick up unscented clay cat litter as well.
Hey, thanks for the video, well done. I wonder if you could answer some questions. Growing moss I have found to have a big learning curve. What kind of moss were you growing? And can you break down the details of how you grow it. Did you grow it indoors? Grow light? Wast the top always exposed? Did you have to mist the moss every day? I'm sorry for all the questions but I found that all of these little details are hard to come by. I have been growing what is known as "sidewalk" moss and I'm trying to find the optimum growing condition's I have made a bunch of 2'x 2' green houses for my moss and they get good Sun and are pretty much in 100% humidity. They really seem to pop in this environment but it's only been a month. I would love to hear your input. Thanks
yes. and it's beautiful. in about a few weeks i am going to collect different moss species in my country and keep it in plastic containers for new terrariums.
That'll be neat, I recommend drilling holes or something for ventilation though if possible because mold also likes high humidity and warmth and grows quicker than moss tends to. You can also try and find or purchase some springtails, as they do a good job of keeping mold under control.
Does moss spread? And if so how quickly? If I wanted to say do a large area of this, would you need to cover the entire area with moss or could you do some area and let it spread over time? Also! Is there a way to do this outside without containers? Can you start it directly on the earth?
It would be good if you could actually show what kind of kitty litter you used. And you make a layer of moss over the screen without specifying exactly what you used. This is kind of a tutorial video and should contain every detail someone would have to know to do it themselves! Great job.
You bring up some good points, any clay cat litter that is unscented should work, but you want it to be as close to a clay as you can find. You could of course actually buy clay but cat litter is definitely cheaper if you can manage to find the right kind.
Hi also what is the underneath moss layer? You called it “substrate” but nothing more specific or how to find a product with the same properties. Thanks
I still can't believe I left that out also!That layer is a mix comprised of coco fiber, pine bark, sphagnum moss, and sand. I used this video when I mixed up a bulk batch for projects. th-cam.com/video/bmSr17J2jho/w-d-xo.html
Hey! There's a lot of moss in my path (around the house in trees etc) and I'm thinking about using it for covering my outside wall (it's rain season, great time for this to take). I don't have access to algae fertilizer, you don't recommend the milk/yogurt, what would be a good alternative for the slurry?
+Lanika Rigues honestly if you don't have access to the fertilizer then just leave it out, we're not positive it makes any true difference we just have used the maxicrop in the past and everything seems to do well with it. That being said though moss doesn't have roots it gets everything it needs from the water absorbing into the moss itself and sunshine. Just make sure it's well ventilated and has enough water to not dry out and it will thrive.
So far I have tested this method (or the slightly older version I did) with at least 5 types of moss and all of them have responded well to this method. That being said none of the types I have tried were gathered when they grew directly on wood or stone. I can't say one way or the other if this method would work with those types, but the moss varieties I have found on soil have done well. I intend to use this method for all types of moss that I want to propagate as I suspect it has a high chance for success.
Hi, thanks for the great video! I wanted to ask - didyou water your container during the 14 days? if so, how much water did you apply and how? where was it placed? sun/shade? and did you leave it open the entire time?
I'm guessing but probably the answers are yes, a lot (enough to keep the moss moist most of the time), with a spray bottle (the one you see him use in the video most likely), not too much sun but enough for the moss to grow. If it was closed then you don't need to water it again for a long time.
Wow! That is really cool! I have been wanting to make mini moss terrariums for awhile now but haven't been sure how to do it. What kind of lighting does it need and how do you set that up in the container?
I watch another guide and told me to put lump wood charcoal on top of the fiberglass and is it ok for me to pick up moss and put onto dirt and will it grow??
Yes supposedly you can just put moss on dirt and it will grow well, as long as you provide enough light. It seems to be a very hardy plant as long as you maintain high levels of humidity. I've even seen a couple videos of people growing it underwater. Trying my own hand at growing some on dirt right now. We'll see how it goes. This method looks amazing though, best results I've seen so far. Might be the next I try. I know the reply is late and maybe you've tried it by now, but hopefully it's at least somewhat helpful.
Awesome question, you can do either. Leaving it closed will help keep a nice humid environment for the moss to grow, but with stagnant air it increases the chance of mold. Leaving it open will make it dry quicker, not an issue if you keep up with that, but it will also help to reduce the possibility of mold.
thanks. thinking about it, since i have mold issue on my previous failure attempt, for the new setup i will keep it open and monitor the humidity closely
@@shngsam8777 Use clean and sterile soil. I use tap water and before use, that has been aged for a minimum of 3 days (its mouth open) and I drip reeflowers "effective conditioner". Now, half of my moss is in the water and the temperature is 35 degrees Celsius right now. I covered it with plastic wrap and just drilled small vents and no mold. Put a little bit of charcoal into the soil too. Even they use charcoal in refrigerators to avoid mold and stench.
You definitely can, though beware of mold because the wood would have to be exposed to a bit of moisture to keep the moss happy. I highly recommend springtails in a tub with it for the best success! We have it growing on a rock that we slathered with the mix, and it's doing great! The funny thing is it was mostly java moss and a tinnnnyyyy bit of terrestrial moss in it and it's so lush and green now, but we also placed ours with a bunch of springtails and I attribute the success to that. Whenever we haven't added springtails I feel like we have a mold outbreak.
We find it locally on walks, we try to only take small bits here and there- but Travis also grabs large chunks of it from where he works, as it has a ton. We've never purchased our moss. We just dig it out with a spoon and you can rinse the extra soil off the bottom but moss doesn't have roots really so you don't have to worry about harming it even if you break it on accident.
You could but I wouldn't recommend the cat litter in the aquarium, if you did use actual clay just to be safe. Even terrestrial moss will grow in water, but it won't spore so it will generally get really long looking for the surface of the water, but won't be able to reproduce and spread out.
I haven’t tried to grow it on stone yet but I’ve been eyeing a broken chunk of cinder block haha. Moss can grow on stone for sure, but purposely getting it to do that may wind up being the tricky part. I think it will take longer than other areas if I had to guess. I may need to go get a sample from moss already on some stone and give it a try!
@@TerraTinkering my moss sheet look green like yours after 2 weeks, but how long it will take for the moss to grow full like a moss sheet in nature? btw, do you cover your container or let it free?
Hi nice video there! I just don't understand why you're putting fertilizer for the moss, they have no vascular system (which mean no roots) so they can't pick up those minerals :/
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the video! I do agree that moss does not have roots and the rhizoids serve primarily to anchor the moss to what it is growing on, however moss still does uptake nutrients and water directly through the surface of the moss itself. The fertilizer I used is a very mild seaweed based fertilizer, for giggles and grins maybe I'll have to do a side by side grow test using it vs not using it.
I think you're right, since they can't absorb it from the ground, they absorb it from the water like algaes do (just thought about it, when there are fertilizer in a pond or a creek, the algaes invade the place and they don't have a vascularized system nor roots so the cells absorb the nutriments by their own)
This works, but the process that works best for me is to make your slurry more wet and blend it (not liquefy) to thoroughly mix. Put your fiberglass mesh on some wax paper, and "paint" the slurry on the mesh. Slurry should stick to the mesh. Then, just suspend the screen in your growing container. When I "spritz" the growth, I put a little flourish in my water. It helps with growth, and helps prevent algae. Also, when spritzing, you'll slowly be washing away some of the clay which will dirty your water (minimal cloudiness when added to a tank later). For some cheap alternatives, get cat litter at farm&ranch stores or tractor supply (100% clay, no additives). When you have the amount of growth you want, I leave the moss on the mesh and superglue it directly to your stone, rocks or wood as it is. The mesh makes it easier to glue and for the moss to keep it's shape. You can also cut it into a shape that you need. I've literally wrapped large rocks in one large piece of moss, which would have taken a couple of years to complete by the normal glue method everyone uses. Also, if you decide to make changes 6 months down the line, you can remove the moss since the fiberglass won't deteriorate. If you want a ton of cool tricks, listen to the competitive aquascapers... those guys have a wealth of knowledge. Then make the subtle changes that work best for you. Nice video. Others need to share their little tricks like this. I've only found info like this from people like Josh Sim after they've won the international contest. They go through their entire process of how they created their "art".
So I had moss naturaly grow in my stone stairs on my graden and my grandmother told the Gardener to GET RID OF IT and I was so sad because I realy liked it, but not all is lost, the Gardener missed a spot a big spot and now I whant it to spred to the stone stair again
It's essentially a soil blend. I think we talk about using the substrate mix SerpaDesigns made in one of his videos and there's a link in the description if you'd like to make it yourself, though it's not required for this particular project. We just used it to try and keep the brick of moss damp so it wouldn't dry out. We accidentally let the whole thing get too dry though when we switched it to another room- so unfortunately this brick is no longer around but we've had great success with this method and it's our go to for moss propagation. We've even used soil rather than the clay cat litter for a lighter coat to go over different things like wood or cool rocks we wanted to grow moss on.
You definitely could put plastic wrap over it to keep it from drying out for longer but if you do I highly suggest springtails to help with mold that might try to grow.
I think it should be able to just fine, actually I think we did another test with star moss and it did do ok- though the heat outside killed it when it got really hot outside. You don't even have to use cat litter if you don't want to- we've also had success just using water and dirt and skipping the cat litter altogether! I hope you have great success with whatever project you're planning this for!
Unfortunately I can't on this moss brick, it had a lot of growth but got a bit dried out when we were moving to a new room we painted. We've used the clay mix to propagate moss a number of times though and it always does really well. It even works without clay if you just add a little soil and water instead with the moss.
Yeah, Koreans use curdled milk for crops. It gets sprayed onto the leaves. I wouldn't want it in the house though. I figure, there isn't some special forest cow squirting her teets around all willy nilly on all the wild moss.
I don't think we would've been able to show everyone how to fully do the project in two minutes, at least not without inputting our knowledge we've gained from attempting other methods of moss propagation. This is also an older video of ours, we've only been making videos for around 4 months so we're still getting used to talking to the camera. We're definitely by no means perfect, but we're learning as we go.
2:11 "If you cut corners" - that was an opportunity for a pun haha!
Oh no, I can't believe we missed that, good thing we have you to make puns on our behalf!
lol finally a proper video to propagate , seen many where they full pack the wild moss in , moss need room to grow , this is the real propagation
I love it that you recorded how things changed and time requirements. Thank you for the valuable information
finally someone that showed some growth rate. Thank you
This cat lady is super excited to grow some moss now! 😆
finaly good video without all this buttermilk, diapers gel and other shit ! Good job mate !
Great video guys! Really informative as usual!
Thanks Elias, I hope you are able to use the technique as well, I know we've had the most success with this personally and wanted to share it with others!
Which MaxiCrop fertilizer did you use? What concentration would you recommend? Did you add it to the water when you made the thicker mix or the slurry or when you misted it during the 2 weeks?
I’ll go try this directly when I get home
Awesome, let us know how to works out for you and if it was pretty easy to follow and do the same! Just make sure not to add too much cat litter as it will make it a harder brick, and try to pick up unscented clay cat litter as well.
Hey man did you try it how did it go?
@@dkmorbidus no lool
How did this project look a couple months to day year later, did it grow full size?
Hey, thanks for the video, well done.
I wonder if you could answer some questions. Growing moss I have found to have a big learning curve.
What kind of moss were you growing? And can you break down the details of how you grow it.
Did you grow it indoors? Grow light? Wast the top always exposed? Did you have to mist the moss every day?
I'm sorry for all the questions but I found that all of these little details are hard to come by.
I have been growing what is known as "sidewalk" moss and I'm trying to find the optimum growing condition's
I have made a bunch of 2'x 2' green houses for my moss and they get good Sun and are pretty much in 100%
humidity. They really seem to pop in this environment but it's only been a month.
I would love to hear your input.
Thanks
amazing timelapse
It's amazing the growth on this moss in such a short period of time.
yes. and it's beautiful. in about a few weeks i am going to collect different moss species in my country and keep it in plastic containers for new terrariums.
That'll be neat, I recommend drilling holes or something for ventilation though if possible because mold also likes high humidity and warmth and grows quicker than moss tends to. You can also try and find or purchase some springtails, as they do a good job of keeping mold under control.
thank you very much for the tips :)
Finally the video I've been looking for the one without using buttermilk hahha
This is really neat! I may try that at some point, just simply to watch the moss grow :)
It was really cool to go look and check on it every day! I was so excited the first time I noticed the green layer starting to form on the left side.
Did you try it? lol
@@Zaprixa LMFAO no I never did, I think I forgot
Two weeks, Well done!
Wow that worked well
Thanks, I hope you have an easy time following the directions- just make sure to use unscented cat litter.
Does moss spread? And if so how quickly? If I wanted to say do a large area of this, would you need to cover the entire area with moss or could you do some area and let it spread over time? Also! Is there a way to do this outside without containers? Can you start it directly on the earth?
is it possible to store the moss slurry for using at later date maybe? or would it just not last long
Which type of maxsea fertilizer did you use?
New video hell yeah!
really interesting video, what type of moss r the ones on the left?
It would be good if you could actually show what kind of kitty litter you used. And you make a layer of moss over the screen without specifying exactly what you used. This is kind of a tutorial video and should contain every detail someone would have to know to do it themselves! Great job.
You bring up some good points, any clay cat litter that is unscented should work, but you want it to be as close to a clay as you can find. You could of course actually buy clay but cat litter is definitely cheaper if you can manage to find the right kind.
Hi also what is the underneath moss layer? You called it “substrate” but nothing more specific or how to find a product with the same properties. Thanks
I still can't believe I left that out also!That layer is a mix comprised of coco fiber, pine bark, sphagnum moss, and sand. I used this video when I mixed up a bulk batch for projects. th-cam.com/video/bmSr17J2jho/w-d-xo.html
Terra Tinkering we will make you *talk!* You cannot keep your secrets from us! We have *wayz ...*
Hey! There's a lot of moss in my path (around the house in trees etc) and I'm thinking about using it for covering my outside wall (it's rain season, great time for this to take).
I don't have access to algae fertilizer, you don't recommend the milk/yogurt, what would be a good alternative for the slurry?
+Lanika Rigues honestly if you don't have access to the fertilizer then just leave it out, we're not positive it makes any true difference we just have used the maxicrop in the past and everything seems to do well with it. That being said though moss doesn't have roots it gets everything it needs from the water absorbing into the moss itself and sunshine. Just make sure it's well ventilated and has enough water to not dry out and it will thrive.
Terra Tinkering Thanks! I'll go around collecting some and if it thrives I'll update you with a nice picture
wow! and again an awesome video
Thanks so much!
+Terra Tinkering does this work with any kind of mosses
+Terra Tinkering does this work with any kind of mosses
So far I have tested this method (or the slightly older version I did) with at least 5 types of moss and all of them have responded well to this method. That being said none of the types I have tried were gathered when they grew directly on wood or stone. I can't say one way or the other if this method would work with those types, but the moss varieties I have found on soil have done well. I intend to use this method for all types of moss that I want to propagate as I suspect it has a high chance for success.
Thank you for your tutorial
Hi, thanks for the great video!
I wanted to ask - didyou water your container during the 14 days? if so, how much water did you apply and how? where was it placed? sun/shade? and did you leave it open the entire time?
I'm guessing but probably the answers are yes, a lot (enough to keep the moss moist most of the time), with a spray bottle (the one you see him use in the video most likely), not too much sun but enough for the moss to grow. If it was closed then you don't need to water it again for a long time.
Wow! That is really cool! I have been wanting to make mini moss terrariums for awhile now but haven't been sure how to do it. What kind of lighting does it need and how do you set that up in the container?
i used dirt from the forest. i sifted it as well. for me potting soil likes to mold so i don't generally use it
Do you have to use moss fertilizer to make it grow
Do you need to add spring tails to this? How often do you take the lid on or off?
I watch another guide and told me to put lump wood charcoal on top of the fiberglass and is it ok for me to pick up moss and put onto dirt and will it grow??
Yes supposedly you can just put moss on dirt and it will grow well, as long as you provide enough light. It seems to be a very hardy plant as long as you maintain high levels of humidity. I've even seen a couple videos of people growing it underwater. Trying my own hand at growing some on dirt right now. We'll see how it goes. This method looks amazing though, best results I've seen so far. Might be the next I try.
I know the reply is late and maybe you've tried it by now, but hopefully it's at least somewhat helpful.
what kind of fertilizer was used?
thanks, this is a great tutorial
I have a question, do we leave the lid open or close during the propagation ?
Awesome question, you can do either. Leaving it closed will help keep a nice humid environment for the moss to grow, but with stagnant air it increases the chance of mold. Leaving it open will make it dry quicker, not an issue if you keep up with that, but it will also help to reduce the possibility of mold.
thanks.
thinking about it, since i have mold issue on my previous failure attempt, for the new setup i will keep it open and monitor the humidity closely
@@shngsam8777 use charcoal if you donT want mold...
@@MetinAkmansoy yes i do use charcoal at bottom layer like other terrarium tutorial, but it end up with mold also, kinda demotivating
@@shngsam8777 Use clean and sterile soil. I use tap water and before use, that has been aged for a minimum of 3 days (its mouth open) and I drip reeflowers "effective conditioner". Now, half of my moss is in the water and the temperature is 35 degrees Celsius right now. I covered it with plastic wrap and just drilled small vents and no mold. Put a little bit of charcoal into the soil too. Even they use charcoal in refrigerators to avoid mold and stench.
What kind of cat litter did you use? All I can find is litter with odor control.
is it ok to use normal dirt?? because I did
any tips to remove fungi / white mold from moss?
Can I use this moss for my aquarium
Can i spread the moss slurry on some driftwood and let it grow on driftwood?
You definitely can, though beware of mold because the wood would have to be exposed to a bit of moisture to keep the moss happy. I highly recommend springtails in a tub with it for the best success! We have it growing on a rock that we slathered with the mix, and it's doing great! The funny thing is it was mostly java moss and a tinnnnyyyy bit of terrestrial moss in it and it's so lush and green now, but we also placed ours with a bunch of springtails and I attribute the success to that. Whenever we haven't added springtails I feel like we have a mold outbreak.
Do you have an update on this bin?
I did it and some dirt got to the bottom to the water is that a bad thing???
Where do you get your moss and how do you transfer it to the plastic container
We find it locally on walks, we try to only take small bits here and there- but Travis also grabs large chunks of it from where he works, as it has a ton. We've never purchased our moss. We just dig it out with a spoon and you can rinse the extra soil off the bottom but moss doesn't have roots really so you don't have to worry about harming it even if you break it on accident.
After this moss grows are you able to put it in aquariums?
You could but I wouldn't recommend the cat litter in the aquarium, if you did use actual clay just to be safe. Even terrestrial moss will grow in water, but it won't spore so it will generally get really long looking for the surface of the water, but won't be able to reproduce and spread out.
Nice video! Is it possible to grow moss directly on rocks?
I haven’t tried to grow it on stone yet but I’ve been eyeing a broken chunk of cinder block haha. Moss can grow on stone for sure, but purposely getting it to do that may wind up being the tricky part. I think it will take longer than other areas if I had to guess. I may need to go get a sample from moss already on some stone and give it a try!
Terra Thinkery what was the name of the guitar song??? nice vid mate
Hi, can I use sand for construction building or any other kind of sand? , 'cuz kitty sand like this is really expensive in my country...
Clay will work but I don't think sand will pack together the same. Sorry for the late reply we're preparing for a big move across country.
@@TerraTinkering my moss sheet look green like yours after 2 weeks, but how long it will take for the moss to grow full like a moss sheet in nature? btw, do you cover your container or let it free?
What is that powder you use? Something light...
OMG your a Magician!!✨⚡️✨
Hi nice video there! I just don't understand why you're putting fertilizer for the moss, they have no vascular system (which mean no roots) so they can't pick up those minerals :/
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the video! I do agree that moss does not have roots and the rhizoids serve primarily to anchor the moss to what it is growing on, however moss still does uptake nutrients and water directly through the surface of the moss itself. The fertilizer I used is a very mild seaweed based fertilizer, for giggles and grins maybe I'll have to do a side by side grow test using it vs not using it.
I think you're right, since they can't absorb it from the ground, they absorb it from the water like algaes do (just thought about it, when there are fertilizer in a pond or a creek, the algaes invade the place and they don't have a vascularized system nor roots so the cells absorb the nutriments by their own)
Can this work for cushion moss (Leucobryum Glaucum) or peat moss (Sphagnum species)?
Leucobryum should work fine with the spreading method as long as the leaves are relatively complete.
Moss does not have a root system so why add fertilizer?
This works, but the process that works best for me is to make your slurry more wet and blend it (not liquefy) to thoroughly mix. Put your fiberglass mesh on some wax paper, and "paint" the slurry on the mesh. Slurry should stick to the mesh. Then, just suspend the screen in your growing container. When I "spritz" the growth, I put a little flourish in my water. It helps with growth, and helps prevent algae. Also, when spritzing, you'll slowly be washing away some of the clay which will dirty your water (minimal cloudiness when added to a tank later). For some cheap alternatives, get cat litter at farm&ranch stores or tractor supply (100% clay, no additives). When you have the amount of growth you want, I leave the moss on the mesh and superglue it directly to your stone, rocks or wood as it is. The mesh makes it easier to glue and for the moss to keep it's shape. You can also cut it into a shape that you need. I've literally wrapped large rocks in one large piece of moss, which would have taken a couple of years to complete by the normal glue method everyone uses. Also, if you decide to make changes 6 months down the line, you can remove the moss since the fiberglass won't deteriorate. If you want a ton of cool tricks, listen to the competitive aquascapers... those guys have a wealth of knowledge. Then make the subtle changes that work best for you.
Nice video. Others need to share their little tricks like this. I've only found info like this from people like Josh Sim after they've won the international contest. They go through their entire process of how they created their "art".
Which version of fertilizer and ratio
So I had moss naturaly grow in my stone stairs on my graden and my grandmother told the Gardener to GET RID OF IT and I was so sad because I realy liked it, but not all is lost, the Gardener missed a spot a big spot and now I whant it to spred to the stone stair again
How often did you water it?
What is substrate? What is it made of?
It's essentially a soil blend. I think we talk about using the substrate mix SerpaDesigns made in one of his videos and there's a link in the description if you'd like to make it yourself, though it's not required for this particular project. We just used it to try and keep the brick of moss damp so it wouldn't dry out. We accidentally let the whole thing get too dry though when we switched it to another room- so unfortunately this brick is no longer around but we've had great success with this method and it's our go to for moss propagation. We've even used soil rather than the clay cat litter for a lighter coat to go over different things like wood or cool rocks we wanted to grow moss on.
Did u use anything to cover it
You definitely could put plastic wrap over it to keep it from drying out for longer but if you do I highly suggest springtails to help with mold that might try to grow.
@@TerraTinkering springtails... If you don't want mold, use charcoal.
Please cut out the music, exept that nice vid
I like the music. :)
what if you don't use sluys???
can it work with star moss?
I think it should be able to just fine, actually I think we did another test with star moss and it did do ok- though the heat outside killed it when it got really hot outside. You don't even have to use cat litter if you don't want to- we've also had success just using water and dirt and skipping the cat litter altogether! I hope you have great success with whatever project you're planning this for!
Can you do a video update
Unfortunately I can't on this moss brick, it had a lot of growth but got a bit dried out when we were moving to a new room we painted. We've used the clay mix to propagate moss a number of times though and it always does really well. It even works without clay if you just add a little soil and water instead with the moss.
Nicely edited....haha
"The thing"?
so i googled how to get moss from nothing...i dont have dried moss
5:30
I don't have any of the clay stuff
7 second ago is me
Yeah, Koreans use curdled milk for crops. It gets sprayed onto the leaves. I wouldn't want it in the house though. I figure, there isn't some special forest cow squirting her teets around all willy nilly on all the wild moss.
Hello
Hiya!
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Congrats!
forget the irritating music next time
acting like its rocket science!
get to the point for f sake
too much talk. You could have made this video to be 2 minutes without missing anything
I don't think we would've been able to show everyone how to fully do the project in two minutes, at least not without inputting our knowledge we've gained from attempting other methods of moss propagation. This is also an older video of ours, we've only been making videos for around 4 months so we're still getting used to talking to the camera. We're definitely by no means perfect, but we're learning as we go.
I think the tutorial was excellent and he needed to explain what he was doing, otherwise it would just be a video of growing moss.
Plz. Do not use plastic .
I'm not sure I understand your concerns, are you referring to the plastic container we have them in?
OMG get to the point 😢