One factor which I think must be important, but which I can't really explain, is the emphasis on Sarah's obvious heavy alcoholism. My guess is that Lynch is always exploring something that's not at all supernatural. In FWWM, the story became a exploration of actual child abuse and molestation, not simply demonic possession. In returning to Sarah, S3 is exploring coming to terms with our own denial and complicity. Sarah clearly knew in FWWM and S1 that something was not right between Laura and Leland. But she lied to herself then, and still feels so much guilt she must constantly hit the bottle. I think that guilt is what drew Judy to possess Sarah -- like a perpetual course of the same garmonbozia. That, and the strategic benefit of possessing someone in the town of Twin Peaks, so close to the Lodge portals.
Spot on! This jives with what Lynch himself has said about FWWM. (For what it's worth, shamanic healers say that booze leaves holes in the aura, which makes it easier for entities to take possession of someone. Isn't it cool (albeit sad for the characters) that Lynch always makes stuff work on both the psychological and supernatural angles? They're always intertwined in his world.
Both great comments. This is why I believe,and tell people,that while Lynch's work is severely surreal,it is perhaps the most realistic art you will ever see. The world is the most beautiful place ,yet the most hideous. The happiest,yet the most intensely saddest. Comforting,yet scary...and so forth. Lynch depicts it all, especially in Twin Peaks.
Twin peaks handles with duality. Good characters drink coffee and bad characters drink alcohol because they're opposites. Laura was good but drank because bobs influence in her life was turning her to evil means of escape. Then when Ben Horne wanted to be good he ate carrots and celery instead of smoking cigars
@@kmsharley75 finally some intelligent comments about Lynch's work. It's kinda like frustrating that apparently nobody really gets what Lynch tries to convey through the dreamy and surreal elements. In the end he really tries to make a strong and realistic point about mental issues, awareness, unconscious and perception and the way he does it is outstanding because nobody can't do that by using only realistic and clear elements. What the 95% of people really seems to forget is that in the end is a story about abuse, guilt, loss of innocence, not about aliens and shit.
Also, a cool detail is that if you pitch-shift the voice that calls Evil Cooper and says Bob will be back with them, it's quite clearly discernible as Grace Zabriskie's voice. The idea that she would "be with Bob again" and all of the connections of the Woodsmen with the Mother/Judy have me thinking that's another sign closer to Judy being the one that possessed Sarah. That said, Laura's doppelganger, while not directly shown in Season 3, does match a lot of the visual clues that Sarah's possession emits. I wonder if the Palmer family is simply Judy's favorite playthings because of how much Garmonbozia they generate, both from themselves and other people. Laura's death drove an entire town into woefulness, and Bob had his fun, but the focus on an entire trouble population 25 years later highlights Sarah as almost a queen amongst the suffering - from which Judy can siphon all the rest. Damn, Twin Peaks will never _not_ be cool to delve into.
When Laura said she is dead, yet she still lives, this must be a reference to the Fireman placing her into Carrie Pages Alt Universe to lose the trail of Judy. Unfortunately. Sex magic summons the mother and Richard and Linda led Judy right to where Laura had been stakes out. With so many turns and avenues, this show has taken on a place of infinite wonder. The clues are there but nothing is 100%. “Richard”’wakes up in a place thats totally different that that in which he and Diane arrived in. The Fireman’s clues come to fruition and we have the strange city of Odessa. Noooses are in Laura’s garden, there is a dead man in her home, yet Cooper ignores all this pushing it towards that dream realm. Finally, all the screaming each time Laura was plucked by Judy from the Lodge, comes full circle, and he memories flood back of her precious life and thus Judy is defeated. Atleast this is my take. Beware the pale horse for he whims witnesses it, is in for certain doom. Judy was In the form of Linda, the horse, and the lights behind the car. Yet Laura is the one who can stop all of the evil.
No shit... changed the pitch... brilliant! Grace has a very distinctive voice, so if you think you heard her, I'm sure you did. Now the question is... did Lynch have her do the VO work purposefully, so that someone could discover her voice and put the pieces together?
It’s also interesting that Judy’s arms are bent backwards, meaning Laura’s doppelgänger might actually be possessed by Judy, and the only time we’ve seen the real Laura Palmer in The Black Lodge is at the start of Season 3 and Fire Walk With Me, where her eyes are in colour and her hair is curled.
You sir are certainly one of the best to hear such a great dissection of Twin Peaks. Thank you so much. I hope David Lynch gets whiff of your channel too see such admiration of his masterpiece.
so happy you’re still doing twin peaks videos, i feel like there’s still a lot to talk about! never even considered that the “unofficial version” is the unaltered timeline, but it so clearly is. thanks for these!
Great to see you back !!! The World of Twin Peaks is Deep and Full of Mystery ... Keep the Videos Coming ... lots of Great insight ... and I can't wait to watch the Return again and again !!
You should do some more videos breaking down the first two seasons. Or videos on his movies over the years. I'd love to hear more of your analysis. You really helped me with season 3.
You should read the 2 books that came with the first series, yrs ago. One is abt agent Cooper, from his childhood to Twin Peaks, but esp Laura Palmers secret Diary, 1 of the best I read in my late teens, which elaborates on her back story, why she did what she did, why she put herself in such dangerous positions, like working at the brothel or going on drug and alcohol benders with ppl she shouldn't have trusted, her relationship with her parents, Donna and her love for James. A really good novel, both are, but the one of Cooper is a lot less heavy, but just as good, just very different. Written bij Lynch and Frost, I believe.
The Final Dossier confirmed she was possessed by Judy. Her original name is Sarah Judith Novak. She's the girl from episode 8. As for Laura, she still disappeared, Cooper still went to investigate, Leland committed suicide, but everything else more or less happened the same as in the show.
Unbelievable. Last night I couldn't sleep and was skimming through YT. I said to myself "I wish I had a TP video to watch"-- and I wake up to this. I love it.
I don't know how often I post comments just because Ik once you do all that stuff people can see it forever but I feel like I need to actively say I genuinely enjoyed this video and theory. I had the same thought and had no idea someone else had the same thought since it was a buried thread but from the looks of the other videos on the channel I'm guessing you cover a lot of Twin Peaks. Keep at it man! Love the video, great content.
Great stuff. One thing that may contradict your theory however, is the long, white pointy thing that is the first thing we see emerging from the void behind Sarah's face. This is reminiscent of the frogbug's point face, but perhaps more importantly, the jumping man's long nose/mask-especially revelevant as when we first see the jumping man, when Doppelcoop goes to meet Jeffries, Sarah palmer's face is clearly visible on his.
Sarah was possessed when she was a child in New Mexico but we know Laura's Doppelganger was in the red room in season 2 finale. How can she be both possessing Sarah and be at the lodge at the same time?
This is hands down the best theory on what Sarah was host to, great work and a powerhouse of a review! Keep making TP videos you will always have an audience ❤️, two birds one stone cancelling each other out I agree
The first redress Lynch took over TV producers that forced his hand back in the '90s was opening again the question "what did Laura whisper in Cooper's ear?". Not understanding this is really missing the whole mastery of the Return. Why would he ever put the sequence at the very end of the whole work if the answer was that easy? Come on guys, try to be attentive.
1) Dick Clark was wrong - it never really was ‘the Philadelphia way’. 2) 1994. No one cares about that year but O.J. obsessives. 3) Jacques was the dreamer. All he ever wanted was a successful coke-muling operation. Fucking Andy put an end to that.
My theory about that: The young girl in episode 8 who got possessed by the bugfrog was Sarah. That was my first thought when I saw these two kids: Leland and Sarah. There's no proof, just a feeling - but I guess there has to be some kind of meaning behind this. The bugfrog grows slowly. It needed twelve years to hatch and I guess it needs Garmonbozia like all creatures from the lodges. When Laura und Leland die Sarah produces aaaaa loooooot of Garmonbozia and the bugfrog makes a big leap in its evolution and Sarah becomes this powerful medium. And BOB who possesses the boy Sarah likes and eventually marries is more like a tool. But he doesn't know that! It's a plan by Judy to open a portal in the real world - and Sarah is the key figure in Judy's plan. Judy produces BOB to harass Sarah as her husband Leland. Sarah suffers, produces Garmonbozia for the bugfrog. You can say BOB is a minion for Judy and the black lodge. A minion in a high position, higher than the Woodsmen who support BOB as well as the bugfrog. They are all tools who have something specific to do - but all of them work for the great evil to grow. Laura became the herald for the White Lodge because the Giant wanted someone in direct relationship to the herald for the Black Lodge. And I guess the golden orb inside her was the countervailing force against BOB who was also represented by an orb now and then. Und I guess everything would have been fine when BOB possessed Laura. Why did BOB want to possess her? As Sarah's daughter he could harass the mother even more! More Garmonbozia for the bullfrog to grow! You can be divorced from a husband but not from a daughter. But I guess in the moment when BOB transferred into Laura the golden orb inside of her would have destroyed the BOB orb. THAT IS WHY SHE SHOULN'T HAVE TAKEN THE PROTECTION RING! As Cooper told her! But Laura died, the bullfrog grew up und noone was able to comfort Sarah. And after 25 years of suffering she reached a point of no return. She became the portal for the Black Lodge, the embodiment of Judy. Much stronger than BOB. In a reality where no Laura as her White Lodge-counterpart exists anymore. And the only way to stop her is to find a way to hinder the bullfrog from growing. How do you do that? You change the past and keep the bullfrog's source of Garmonbozia short.
man. thats a very thorough and succinct theory. I really dig it. gotta ask tho. with sarahs message to major briggs, would you attribute that to the frogmoth or judy or something/someone else? I, like wowbobwow, always had the impression, albeit likely with no real evidence, that the message was given in order to help. ive tended to lean towards mike being the messenger but ive never come to a solid answer as to who sarah was channeling. and still wonder.
I was always under the same impression. However, I just realized that there is a big hiccup in this theory. Judy materializes in the glass box in one of the first few episodes (can’t remember if it was 1 or 2). If it/she had been dormant and gestating inside of Sarah since 1956 and was always a part of her, how did it/she appear in the box?
The Mother is everywhere, she's a deity. She doesn't reside only in Sarah Palmer. Her froglings inhabit many people, and she can jump into them at will. They're hosts. There are also numerous timelines, so even if the Mother were only in Sarah Palmer in the current timeline, the glass box could have brought her here from a different timeline, or from the Lodge world, where there isn't a timeline.
Has anyone ever considered that the fireman manufactured Laura in response to Judy (rather than Bob)? Judy being a mother, possesses Sara who becomes the mother of light rather than darkness. Sara/Judy only acts crazy now because Laura is gone. Maybe Laura's presence was keeping Judy in check and Bob was just a wildcard.
4:31 don't forget about Ronette Pulaski. Her death (and without Laura and/or MIKE to stop it, Ronette may well have died in this new reality/timeline) might still have brought in Special Agent Dale Cooper and set up the events of Twin Peaks (s1 and s2) in a slightly different way.
Don’t forget... Ronette appears briefly in episode 3, as ‘American Girl’ in that weird chamber of what I’m assuming is the white lodge... with Cooper. She tells him “You’d better hurry, my mother’s coming”. That’s Phoebe Augustine - the actress who plays Ronette.
As to who or what is inside Sarah, I take it as a metaphor for all the mind-numbing grief and guilt that's built up inside her over the years since Laura and Leland died, and that's now starting to pour out. First with the Truck You guy at the bar, and then withthe stabbing of Laura's picture, the latter showing how we can both be angry as well as miss our loved ones who've died. I actually took Sarah's stabbing of Laura's picture to be therapeutic, just as I took Laura's scream to be at the finale. Thanks for continuing the discussion.
Great video as always man, your insight and theories are very interesting, and none of us really know except Lynch & Frost 🤔 but we definitely are itching for more 👍😎
awesome insights. Thanks for keeping the theorizing going. I find myself reflecting on this show even now. I agree that the Sarah and Laura connection is key to understanding the mystery.
I’m intrigued by your thoughts on the entity possessing Sarah; however I’m surprised you didn’t mention the white faced, long nosed black lodge spirit! This was the one squeaking and was filmed with a fisheye lens on The Missing Pieces scene that corresponds to Jeffries’ recollection of his encounter above the convenience store. While I don’t understand the significance of this and why this particular spirit would possess Sarah, it is clearly suggested that this is the one as: 1) When Sarah removes her face, the first thing you see is a “spike”-like horn poking out (like the one this being has). 2) You also see a SMILE that you attributed to Laura but doesn’t really correspond to her (Sheryl’s teeth are longer) but are EXACTLY squared and “smiling” as those of the white faced being we see in Jeffries’ memory of Above the Convenience store. 3) When Mr. C asks to see Jeffries, a woodsman turns on the electricity and this same white faced being is shown in fast forward, squeaking quickly and his face morphing. A step-frame viewing clearly shows the face that is morphing to be that of Sarah! (this is in part 15). 4) Cooper goes up the stairs with Mike in Part 17, the same sound as the woodsman’s electricity switch is heard, and the white-faced being/sarah is seen going DOWN the stairs (similar to those of Sarah’s own home). Shortly after, we see and hear Sarah wailing/squealing.
And I think this thing was always in Sarah because you saw this thing get born from Judy and the bug crawl into the little girl’s mouth. I’m surprised no one mentions this because this would be why this being in her would be drawn to Leland as Bob was drawn to him/her as they both ended up near the Waiting Area in Twin Peaks. Also him having white features could correlate to the White Horse about her seeing with the whites of her eyes and not doing anything as she knew about the abuse and did nothing. Maybe that incapsulates what that spirit is
@@thomasdowney4390 Because there is nothing that suggests that the girl from New Mexico in 1956 is Sarah Palmer... that could be anyone as far as we know.
I was just suggested this after rewatching the "cherry pie" scene where belushi does a ridiculous dance with the check for 30 million dollars. I absolutely love that even at a surface level, Twin Peaks is super deep; it's the never-ending cosmic horror conflict between good and evil. Is it all in vain? Is it best to just destroy both and restore balance? What the heck did Jeffries become when he's in that teapot of time manipulation? And then you delve deeper, and it keeps going. Through red curtained halls with zigzagging black and white floors, and ladders leading to nowhere. Be careful, or you might end up stuck like Windam Earle.
Great piece you did there. Very thought-inducing. Helps me make more sense of the whole Twin Peaks and with that, make the enjoyment all the more. I have absolutely loved the series.
If Sarah's past did "catch up " w Cooper's past--Sarah smashing the photo of Laura indicates that it did catch up, and that the smashing of the photo probably indicates Laura ran away (or worst case was kidnapped) and Sarah smashing the photo shows her anger and resentment of that act of Laura abandoning their family. Sarah wouldn't be smashing a picture of Laura if Laura was murdered. Being murdered isn't a selfish act if you are the victim. Sarah believes Laura ran away (to Odessa, TX!!! which is where we know she did indeed go to.) And Sarah isn't all that specific about what happened in the store when she's buying Vodka. She says, "Something happened to meeeee" but we don't know if that thing is Laura being killed or Laura running away. Sarah doesn't get into it. It is my belief that Cooper did indeed change the outcome and we see it w the scenes Sarah is in.
I think Laura’s Doppelgänger IS Judy. The Doppelgänger says “sometimes my arms bend back”, and Judy has backwards arms in Episode 8. All of the Doppelgängers have whited out eyes when they’re in The Lodge, maybe that’s because they’re in Judy’s control, and Judy has taken the form of Laura’s doppelgänger, in some twisted irony. Then, the extreme negative force of Sarah’s depression allowed Judy’s possession of Sarah to be completed. Considering Judy appears mostly formless, I think it’s entirely possible that she can shapeshift in some way, tending to take the form of Laura Palmer.
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It can't be Laura's doppelganger, a person and their double can't be on earth at the same time, and Laura was back alive and gone from the lodge while Sarah was tearing up her picture.
You never disappoint me with that itching clip. You should check out the theories about Sarah on Reddit. Sarah's face is superimposed on the Jumping Man's during one Black Lodge scene, which strongly suggests somehow that the two are connected. Some people think the Jumping Man is thus the one possessing Sarah.
I'm still not convinced that the past did, absolutely, change. The vision of a changed past might have only a been a tease -- this is what was ABOUT to happen, but then Laura was snatched away again and the timeline corrected itself. Remember, in FWWM, Laura screams at something in the dark that James can't see. In The Return we see that that thing was Cooper, suggesting that Cooper was always there. Or maybe, as suggested in the video, there was a split -- one where Laura's body washed up on the shore and one where Laura vanished into the night. She would be "dead" either way, the town would still suffer a trauma, but details of that trauma would of course be different.
Dude you and that damn itch lol. Love your videos. They keep me constantly thinking and re-evaluating my thoughts on the finale and the show’s method as a whole. Keep up the good work!
I believe that the closed captions for the final episode of season 2 indicated "voice of Windom Earle" when Sarah spoke. As I understand it, the original idea for a third season would've involved Major Briggs being the one to save the good Dale from the Black Lodge, so that scene might have been a setup for that idea.
Good timing, I just finished EW's Twin Peaks: A Podcast About Twin Peaks podcast recap episodes, and I was thinking about how much I missed you today...
I think it was revealed that Sarah was the one the frog/roach thing crawled into during episode 8, so it was probably a representation of Judy, or a part of Judy?
To get all the answers, you should also read the 2 books, one is about gent Cooper and how he became who he is and abt hs work for the FBI and his former partner and abt Twin Peaks, but esp Laura Palmer's diary, which is a great book on itself, but also explains who she was and what she went through, with Bob, her dad and her mother and her relationship with them, but esp abt her own desires and fears. I hven't seen the last season yet, waited so long, but it wasn't out here, but now I do and am doing some research, coz this was my favorite show and it's books, I read them often, esp her diary, if you haven't read it, you loved this show, you really should read them, both are very good, but different, coz of who and what they are. It also explains a bit why Laura went on such a dangerous path in her youth, which ultimatly ended up killing her, but not before some troublesome choices, relations with older and eve dangerous men, but also her friendship with her best friend Donna. A must read if you want the whole back story of the 2 most important characters, esp coz its her diry, secrets of the ppl in Twin Peaks and hers.
Grace Zabriskie is a great actress and Sarah Palmer is the darkest character in Season 3 (which is some accolade, given the competition). I think the Judy entity is an analogue of Choronzon 333, a hostile demonic entity that feeds on grief, negative emotion, and the pain that an addict, in a loop of torment, allows them to harvest. Mark Frost touches on the occult implications in his 'The Final Dossier'.
To further add to your idea of Cooper wanting Laura and Sarah/Judy to meet, I think that last scene where Laura hears Sarah calling her, then screams, people seem to think that Sarah's calling was making Carrie Paige remember she was Laura. I think very much like when Cooper is Dougie Jones and then gets awakened by MIKE just like that, Laura is awakened in the same way and her scream is a counter-attack response to Sarah/Judy's calling, who I think was still in the house, which is why all the lights were shut off, wiping Sarah/Judy out.
It's safe to say a thin veil separates Twin Peaks and a alternative reality. This entity, like Cooper and Briggs, walks between worlds and took residence in Sarah. These entities from time to time show us glimpses of a alternative reality and the duality that rests between the host and the entity. It's filled with so much mystical Irony. Season 3 really catered for the senses, it was so emotionally intelligent. He stripped us all bare, he did not allow us to become comfortable. It went beyond what the eyes can see and the ears hear, he really reached within himself and such was his pull he took a few of us with him. Always in search of new emotion, like a parasite, he is never happy until he has gone beneath the surface. It's like looking into a mirror, trying to identify with the face that is staring back at you. Your face soon loses shape and you focus on the energy of the eyes (soul) It's more than a face, more than a feeling. By projecting and going beyond, he gives union to such feelings/energy. I could go on and on but to my own peril. Haha.
Sarah is possessed by sorrow, a sorrow she did notthing to avoid because she witnessed everything that happened to Laura without protecting her. But during 25 years she learned to love her sorrow wich gives her an excuse to give up, to drink. What is she watching on TV ? So, if you learn to forget logic and temporality, wich are illusions, the scene where Sarah is stabbing Laura's picture is the methaphor of a self destructed middle class nearly noone woman who is losing what made her special, what gave her the comfort of doing no effort no more without being judged but being complained. Judy is not a demon, it's a feeling, a beloved and auto centered despair. Jiao dai may be translated by "to confess" ...
I think the two spiky things that emerge from her face are the clue that she is, in fact, possessed by Judy, and that she was the little girl in the flashback sequence. The symbol that Mr. C carries with him has them too, as did the little frog creature.
The short version: Sarah was possessed by Jao de. Cooper was tricked; he was allowed out of the lodge in order to find the real Laura and bring her to Jao de. The real Laura was saved by the "Angels" at the end of FWWM. The Laura we see in the lodge is another entity. The real Laura was hidden in another reality by these angels. Malevolent entities (the arm, Mike) help Cooper throughout series. Just because they help him, does this mean they have suddenly become benevolent? No; they want to find the real Laura and bring her to Jao de, & Cooper is their means of doing so. Also notice how that, while Cooper has some words with the giant, it is no longer his guide. Mike & the arm were his guides; again, these are evil lodge entities, while the giant was always presented as benevolent. The Season 3 Leland was another entity-look at the eyes..."Find Laura". That wasn't the real Leland. My final take is that Cooper's soul is lost to the lodge. It is as Hawk said in S2; Cooper's courage was imperfect when he faced "the dweller on the threshold", & he was destroyed/enslaved. Now he serves the whims of these entities, what's left of him that is. His soul is fractured into multiple pieces and he is displaced from space and time. PS: Miss the great reviews!!
Correct me if I'm wrong - Cole's vision of Laura is from Fire Walk With Me. It is one of the scenes directly after Laura finally establishes the BOB/Leland connection. (Forgive my poor memory, but I _think_ it might be from outside the Palmer house as soon as she finds out, or it's the footage from when Donna opens her front door to see Laura standing there, completely distraught.) So perhaps, in the version where Laura runs away, her decision was prompted by her discovery, and that is why Cole remembers both versions - because this is the diverging moment where Laura decides to run away instead of going to her death.
Something was off with Sarah in Season 1; she was portrayed as having a psychic gift, and she able to clearly see Bob. She's clearly connected to the Lodge somehow. From what I initially thought, Sarah was the little girl in Season 3, Episode 8. What exactly was the bug-frog thing that crawled into Sarah's mouth? An evil spawn of Judy, or was it an elemental part of Judy herself?
Wait.... wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, WAIT... So does this mean (and I can't believe this never clicked in my brain before) that Pete may have never been with Andrew at the bank? Is Pete still alive in the new reality? I must know! Anyway... I think that Sarah is possessed by Laura's doppleganger. I don't think Judy possesses people... she produces the beings which then possess people.
I believe that it was The Arm, who informed Major Briggs through Sarah, because in the next scene you're in the corridor to the waiting room and you hear The Arm's slightly electronically altered voice saying "I'm waiting for you," which fits the message. As for Laura and Sarah and their facelids: what if the shining bright light represents Laura's cleansed self and newfound purity after she had died, and the darkness inside Sarah represents her neverending pain and suffering from her inability to overcome the deaths of Laura and Leland? The TV programs represent Sarah being stuck in that situation, her inner struggle where darkness is boxing against light and the light always loses; and predators killing weaker animals. Also, since Sarah is able to take off her face, does that mean, she's also in the Lodge, but in a version which is more like a holodeck in Star Trek, so that she doesn't see the chevron floor and the red curtains, but normal everyday life? Is the Carrie Page segment also like a holodeck simulation, hence Cooper trying to find the exit through the curtains and wondering what year it is? Is the whole Lodge infrastructure regardless of colors a purer place, either pure darkness or pure light? Could it be that all of the red room is both Black and White Lodge depending on the direction you go? And is it possible that the distinction between reality and Lodge dream space is actually artificial but has to be presented that way to show us its underlying concepts and dynamics and how Lodge dream space influences reality and how reality influences Lodge dream space?
Power house video, welcome back. I think Sarah still doesn't exist, I'm thinking Sarah is the doppelganger of Laura but from the future. It could of been covered up because don't forget Leland had been possessed by BoB since he was a boy. I think BoB/Leland and Sarah were trying to make a vessel for the mother of evil. Only problem with Laura was when she was conceived the giant/fireman purified her soul. What if Coop eventually realises he has to let Laura get killed to correct the timeline, Coop however makes a Laura with a seed and that's the one that's killed while the real Laura goes on the run from the lodge entities.
Remember, though, Laura still disappears in the past and her disappearance is never solved. Cooper goes there to investigate, but doesn't solve the case. Maybe he still got pulled into the Black Lodge. Laura would've been yanked out of Twin Peaks and sent to the Carrie Page universe where she had no memory of her true identity (till the very end, of course). Also, it's been confirmed that the girl in 1956 was a young Sarah, so, obviously she became possessed when the frog-moth climbed into her mouth. Like Leland, she might have spent most of her life not realizing or not remembering she was possessed.
Another possibility is The Jumping Man. He/She escaped from the lodge when Coop entered it in part 17 (or 18, don´t remember). Remember Sarah Palmers super imposed face on The Jumping Man in an earlier episode.
I think that Dale still arrived in Twin Peaks because of William Earle. Don't forget that Earle wanted to find the Black Lodge, therefore Cooper & him would've made it to Twin Peaks at the point of Earle's arrival in Season 2.
A couple of questions: 1. If Laura, saved from death, was whisked away, to be hid in Odessa for 25 years--until Cooper could return--then, from the Twin Peaks perspective she disappeared without a trace, so it has a similar effect on the people and town as her death would have caused. She was probably presumed dead within months. Given the earlier mysteries, the supernatural events in the town and in Indian times, the fact that Major Briggs is already there, and the existence of the Blue Rose task force, maybe the FBI and Cooper would have come to Twin Peaks in 1989 anyway--without the rationale of Laura's death or the crossing of state lines. 2. If the frogmoth, created by the atomic bomb test, crawled into the mouth of Sarah Palmer when she was a teenager, then she's been a vessel for evil forces and perhaps Judy for a long time (and we remember that Mr. C is told he's already met Judy). Sarah was always a bit "off", even before Laura's death/disappearance. She is inhabited, but like Diane's tulpa, maybe she also has parts of her innocent self--so in Fire Walk With Me she is reacting to her husband and Laura from a mother's nervous caring, also, as well as the dark spirits within her. 3. If Laura was created as a response to the creation of Bob (and both were created as a response to the atomic bomb), then it is no wonder that the Palmer family is a place of conflict between two forces--in fact, it begins to look like Bob went to infest Leland not randomly but specifically because he knew that Laura was his rival and he went to that house to torment and kill Laura (she was a representative of the power of good) and then Bob looked additionally for a way to remain on earth (via Cooper, as it turned out, after Leland's death). Maybe he also was able to get to Leland because Leland was married to Sarah, who had some connection (the frogmoth?) to evil spirits. Maybe the frogmoth was sent on that mission. In this view, the creation of Bob and Laura set in motion forces of evil and good that had to confront each other. Bob won round 1, Laura wins round 2 at the end of Park 18. 4. Let's also note that Sarah is becoming sexually aware as a teenager (if that is her with the frogmoth) and Laura, as she entered sexual awareness was subverted by Leland/Bob and fell into drugs and prostitution, meaning that there is a pre-sexual innocence that is being attacked by older-self-centered male desire. So we have a larger parable that is about innocence/purity and dark sexuality. But that's also parallel to the atomic bomb--the pre-atomic bomb innocent world has been forever shocked by the bomb into a new spiritual place.
This is an interesting theory. The idea of Laura's doppleganger taking advantage of Sarah works on multiple levels. For instance, when Dona comes to commiserate with Sarah (I think it's S1, E2), Sarah sees her daughter's face superimposed on Donna's. Her immediate reaction is to embrace Donna aggressively. Elsewhere below in the comments, someone mentioned that Sarah was somehow complicit in Leland's abuse of Laura. There are, I think, multiple signs of this in both the original series and in FWWM. These factors might have combined to allow Laura's doppleganger entry into Sarah. However, I would not discount the Windom Earle connection so readily. If you pause your video at 1:57 as Laura's doppleganger goes into her screaming fit, you will see a red-tinged photographic negative of Windom Earle's face flash in the strobe lights. Could the soul of Windom Earle (which was "taken" by BOB later in the episode) be involved with this in some way?
My theory, continuum one I read a while back, that she was the girl who swallowed the frog moth in 1958, that the frog moth was a mark created by Judy to allow Bob to follow the Palmer family. And to add onto it, I believe she was possessed by Chalfont, as this entity has a history of lying about who lives wherever. I believe Cooper is in the right universe and timeline, he’s just confused because of Chalfont and believing that Bob can’t harass him nor Laura anymore
I like the idea that the two birds with one stone are Laura and her doppleganger. This may be why Coop's attempt to save Laura as he's leading her through the woods fails - he can't do it while her doppleganger is possessing Sarah, both need dealing with at the same time. The final episode and the creation of the pocket universe through sex magic can be seen as an attempt to trap Laura and possessed Sarah together and destroy the pocket universe, impacting the Twin Peaks universe in a devastating way.
If you look closely at the Mother as she attacks Sam and Tracy, she seems to bear the same smiling mouth that Sarah Palmer hides behind her face right before she kills the goon at the bar.
Allways a pleasure to see your videos, but I do have one remark: - You are talking about Laura's doppelganger possesing Sarah - But is this really the way that the Doppelganger are acting in Twin Peaks? The parasites/demons (Bob and Mike) needs "a vehicle", but the Doppelgangers seems to have a physical form of their own and therefore Evil-Laura wouldn't need (or can't?) possess Sarah?
Funny watching this video in 2022 while doing a re-watch of S3! Coincidently, time-slips and the entities, who seem to exist over multiple dimensions and multiple time lines with intertwining memories of all the time lines. I am reminded of the 'turkey jerky' incident with Sarah Palmer in S3:E12 where she *seems* to experience a time-slip 'memory' of the original event depicted on Hawk's map showing the black corn and the 'turkey'. She asks the clerk 'were you here when they first came' which I take as a reference to original events in the map (she also asks if the turkey is 'smoked'). It would seem she is not only possessed but that the entity 'remembers' the events that occurred between the Nez Perce and (perhaps) either a 'first contact' with the entity or with the 'white people' (Twisted Hair refers to 'white people' who might have been Lodge spirits, see ' The Secret History of Twin Peaks)???
In season 2’s finale, Sarah tells Major Briggs “I’m in the black lodge with Dale Cooper” in a distorted voice. Maybe she’s been inhabited for long before than, or maybe the real Sarah is stuck in the black lodge
Easy.... Judy. Judy is ‘the mother’. The ‘mother’ pukes out the stream that produces ‘the eggs’. An egg reaches Earth... in the New Mexico desert in 1956, hatches... out comes frogbug (a little piece of Judy). Frogbug finds it’s way to teenage Sarah Palmer... crawls inside of her... BOOM. Possession. Not much else to deduce.
The brutal attack on the truck driver made me remember the way Laura used to sleep with truck drivers as shown in FWWM the week the 'possessed sara' ep was shown I actually wrote this to a podcast I was listening to: " I had a slightly loopy thought this week, but just a very random what if, what if it's Laura or more specifically an element of Laura, the only other person who's taken their face off so far. I know Laura's face contained white light but that was in the Red Room and she then screams horribly as she's dragged out - who pulled her out. In the original series elements of Laura were desperately good but other parts were twisted and dark and if anyone would have a desire to rain down brutal vengeance on a predatory man, and not just that but a truck driver it would be her. Keep in mind in FWWM Laura is shown being picked up by truck drivers and it's implied that's a regular thing. What if Laura has been split (as with the doppelgangers) the dark part of Laura's soul returned to the site of her abuse and took up residence in the mother who deliberately/or carelessly ignored Leland's activities. The smile in Sarah's face just reminded me of the dark smile Laura sometimes had when she was trying to intimidate people Meanwhile The Fireman is taking the good in her (the gold) and sending it down to live/fight BOB again" Obviously event after the ep show some of this to be off or answer questions such as 'who pulled Laura out of the Red Room' but I loved hearing that someone else was having similar thoughts !
Great video, and nice theory. Something I haven't seen anyone mention yet is that when Sarah puts her hand to her face to peel it open, the hand inside appears to also peel open whatever is there to reveal the smile. This would lead me to believe that whatever is possessing Sarah is itself also possessed (by the smiler). Could that be both Judy and Laura's doppelgänger? It's just a detail that is bothering me as I haven't seen anyone else address it (the idea of a double unveiling). What might its significance might be though...
And another detail that I've yet to see anyone else mention yet, is the fact that we have heard Laura, or her doppelgänger, mention, whilst in the black lodge, that she "feel(s) like I know her, but sometimes my arms bend back". Has anyone else noticed that the levitating image of the mother vomiting Bob has its arms bending in the wrong direction? I first noticed that detail during my first watching of episode 8 and I got a chill run down my spine. Are Judy and Dopple-Laura "one and the same" (inside Sarah).
The actress who played Sarah Palmer stole the show whenever she was in a scene. Brava
Her name is Grace Zabriskie, and she manages to steal the show in whatever capacity she’s featured in. Check out ‘Wild At Heart’ some time.
Brewzerr She’s great in Inland Empire too
Brewzerr She's fucking insane in Wild at Heart. I love it.
bravo*
@@ryanhoffman5654 YES SHE IS. a little boy goes out to play. sooooooo gooooooood
One factor which I think must be important, but which I can't really explain, is the emphasis on Sarah's obvious heavy alcoholism. My guess is that Lynch is always exploring something that's not at all supernatural. In FWWM, the story became a exploration of actual child abuse and molestation, not simply demonic possession. In returning to Sarah, S3 is exploring coming to terms with our own denial and complicity. Sarah clearly knew in FWWM and S1 that something was not right between Laura and Leland. But she lied to herself then, and still feels so much guilt she must constantly hit the bottle. I think that guilt is what drew Judy to possess Sarah -- like a perpetual course of the same garmonbozia. That, and the strategic benefit of possessing someone in the town of Twin Peaks, so close to the Lodge portals.
Spot on! This jives with what Lynch himself has said about FWWM. (For what it's worth, shamanic healers say that booze leaves holes in the aura, which makes it easier for entities to take possession of someone. Isn't it cool (albeit sad for the characters) that Lynch always makes stuff work on both the psychological and supernatural angles? They're always intertwined in his world.
Both great comments. This is why I believe,and tell people,that while Lynch's work is severely surreal,it is perhaps the most realistic art you will ever see. The world is the most beautiful place ,yet the most hideous. The happiest,yet the most intensely saddest. Comforting,yet scary...and so forth.
Lynch depicts it all, especially in Twin Peaks.
Twin peaks handles with duality. Good characters drink coffee and bad characters drink alcohol because they're opposites. Laura was good but drank because bobs influence in her life was turning her to evil means of escape. Then when Ben Horne wanted to be good he ate carrots and celery instead of smoking cigars
@@kmsharley75 finally some intelligent comments about Lynch's work. It's kinda like frustrating that apparently nobody really gets what Lynch tries to convey through the dreamy and surreal elements. In the end he really tries to make a strong and realistic point about mental issues, awareness, unconscious and perception and the way he does it is outstanding because nobody can't do that by using only realistic and clear elements. What the 95% of people really seems to forget is that in the end is a story about abuse, guilt, loss of innocence, not about aliens and shit.
TY, it's been a while since I've watched through the series. But this is exactly what I was theorising to be the case.
Also, a cool detail is that if you pitch-shift the voice that calls Evil Cooper and says Bob will be back with them, it's quite clearly discernible as Grace Zabriskie's voice. The idea that she would "be with Bob again" and all of the connections of the Woodsmen with the Mother/Judy have me thinking that's another sign closer to Judy being the one that possessed Sarah.
That said, Laura's doppelganger, while not directly shown in Season 3, does match a lot of the visual clues that Sarah's possession emits. I wonder if the Palmer family is simply Judy's favorite playthings because of how much Garmonbozia they generate, both from themselves and other people. Laura's death drove an entire town into woefulness, and Bob had his fun, but the focus on an entire trouble population 25 years later highlights Sarah as almost a queen amongst the suffering - from which Judy can siphon all the rest.
Damn, Twin Peaks will never _not_ be cool to delve into.
When Laura said she is dead, yet she still lives, this must be a reference to the Fireman placing her into Carrie Pages
Alt Universe to lose the trail of Judy. Unfortunately. Sex magic summons the mother and Richard and Linda led Judy right to where Laura had been stakes out. With so many turns and avenues, this show has taken on a place of infinite wonder. The clues are there but nothing is 100%. “Richard”’wakes up in a place thats totally different that that in which he and Diane arrived in. The Fireman’s clues come to fruition and we have the strange city of Odessa. Noooses are in Laura’s garden, there is a dead man in her home, yet Cooper ignores all this pushing it towards that dream realm. Finally, all the screaming each time Laura was plucked by Judy from the Lodge, comes full circle, and he memories flood back of her precious life and thus Judy is defeated. Atleast this is my take. Beware the pale horse for he whims witnesses it, is in for certain doom. Judy was In the form of Linda, the horse, and the lights behind the car. Yet Laura is the one who can stop all of the evil.
And I thought the Phantasm movie series was the height of insanity and trying to figure crazy stuff out, but amazingly yeah Twin Peaks has it beat.
No shit... changed the pitch... brilliant!
Grace has a very distinctive voice, so if you think you heard her, I'm sure you did.
Now the question is... did Lynch have her do the VO work purposefully, so that someone could discover her voice and put the pieces together?
It’s also interesting that Judy’s arms are bent backwards, meaning Laura’s doppelgänger might actually be possessed by Judy, and the only time we’ve seen the real Laura Palmer in The Black Lodge is at the start of Season 3 and Fire Walk With Me, where her eyes are in colour and her hair is curled.
You sir are certainly one of the best to hear such a great dissection of Twin Peaks. Thank you so much. I hope David Lynch gets whiff of your channel too see such admiration of his masterpiece.
so happy you’re still doing twin peaks videos, i feel like there’s still a lot to talk about! never even considered that the “unofficial version” is the unaltered timeline, but it so clearly is. thanks for these!
Great to see you back !!! The World of Twin Peaks is Deep and Full of Mystery ... Keep the Videos Coming ... lots of Great insight ... and I can't wait to watch the Return again and again !!
Sarah biting out that throat was my favorite thing I've ever seen on TV.
When I first watched it I stood up and yelled YASS - it was Amazing.
It’s a world of truckers.
I actually found it a bit cringe ngl
“Do you really wanna fuck with THIS?”
I'll admit, I both needed AND wanted more of your videos. Thank you!
Wow! It's so good to have you back. Please do more when you can. We WANT more :).
What a perfect comment which describes the way I feel. "I don't NEED more, but I WANT more."
You should do some more videos breaking down the first two seasons. Or videos on his movies over the years. I'd love to hear more of your analysis. You really helped me with season 3.
This is a very good idea.
sprdvx thisb would be awesome but if he doesnt decide to do Non-TP related films then check out Jay Dyers analysis. You should do them though WLW!
You should read the 2 books that came with the first series, yrs ago. One is abt agent Cooper, from his childhood to Twin Peaks, but esp Laura Palmers secret Diary, 1 of the best I read in my late teens, which elaborates on her back story, why she did what she did, why she put herself in such dangerous positions, like working at the brothel or going on drug and alcohol benders with ppl she shouldn't have trusted, her relationship with her parents, Donna and her love for James. A really good novel, both are, but the one of Cooper is a lot less heavy, but just as good, just very different. Written bij Lynch and Frost, I believe.
The Final Dossier confirmed she was possessed by Judy. Her original name is Sarah Judith Novak. She's the girl from episode 8. As for Laura, she still disappeared, Cooper still went to investigate, Leland committed suicide, but everything else more or less happened the same as in the show.
Yeah that’s my take too.
Absolutely amazing description you cleared up a lot of questions and confusions I had after finishing s3!
Love it!! Please do as many videos about anything twin peaks as much as you can. We WANT more ;-)
Best Twin Peaks commentary! My favorite. Love your channel.
Unbelievable. Last night I couldn't sleep and was skimming through YT. I said to myself "I wish I had a TP video to watch"-- and I wake up to this.
I love it.
Nice! I really enjoyed watching your videos right after season 3’s episodes when they aired. It made an exciting summer. Thank you!👍👍😁😁
I don't know how often I post comments just because Ik once you do all that stuff people can see it forever but I feel like I need to actively say I genuinely enjoyed this video and theory. I had the same thought and had no idea someone else had the same thought since it was a buried thread but from the looks of the other videos on the channel I'm guessing you cover a lot of Twin Peaks. Keep at it man! Love the video, great content.
Dude you're the absolute best !! I'm itching for your next Twin Peaks video !
Great stuff. One thing that may contradict your theory however, is the long, white pointy thing that is the first thing we see emerging from the void behind Sarah's face. This is reminiscent of the frogbug's point face, but perhaps more importantly, the jumping man's long nose/mask-especially revelevant as when we first see the jumping man, when Doppelcoop goes to meet Jeffries, Sarah palmer's face is clearly visible on his.
Sarah was possessed when she was a child in New Mexico but we know Laura's Doppelganger was in the red room in season 2 finale. How can she be both possessing Sarah and be at the lodge at the same time?
I've been checking periodically for a new video, glad you're back man!
It's very good to see you again old friend.
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This is hands down the best theory on what Sarah was host to, great work and a powerhouse of a review! Keep making TP videos you will always have an audience ❤️, two birds one stone cancelling each other out I agree
Another great video with plenty to mull over. Keep posting them!👍
My top 3 questions from the return :
1) What did Laura whisper to Cooper a second time?
2) What year is it?
3) Who is the dreamer?
1) My father Killed me
2) 1988
3) Laura is the Dreamer. It's pretty obvious actually
The first redress Lynch took over TV producers that forced his hand back in the '90s was opening again the question "what did Laura whisper in Cooper's ear?". Not understanding this is really missing the whole mastery of the Return. Why would he ever put the sequence at the very end of the whole work if the answer was that easy? Come on guys, try to be attentive.
Yes I'd like to know as well.
4) How’s Annie?
1) Dick Clark was wrong - it never really was ‘the Philadelphia way’.
2) 1994. No one cares about that year but O.J. obsessives.
3) Jacques was the dreamer. All he ever wanted was a successful coke-muling operation. Fucking Andy put an end to that.
um wow. I keep thinking I've heard all of the good theories and then you come along and blow my mind again.
My theory about that:
The young girl in episode 8 who got possessed by the bugfrog was Sarah. That was my first thought when I saw these two kids: Leland and Sarah. There's no proof, just a feeling - but I guess there has to be some kind of meaning behind this.
The bugfrog grows slowly. It needed twelve years to hatch and I guess it needs Garmonbozia like all creatures from the lodges.
When Laura und Leland die Sarah produces aaaaa loooooot of Garmonbozia and the bugfrog makes a big leap in its evolution and Sarah becomes this powerful medium.
And BOB who possesses the boy Sarah likes and eventually marries is more like a tool. But he doesn't know that! It's a plan by Judy to open a portal in the real world - and Sarah is the key figure in Judy's plan. Judy produces BOB to harass Sarah as her husband Leland. Sarah suffers, produces Garmonbozia for the bugfrog.
You can say BOB is a minion for Judy and the black lodge. A minion in a high position, higher than the Woodsmen who support BOB as well as the bugfrog. They are all tools who have something specific to do - but all of them work for the great evil to grow.
Laura became the herald for the White Lodge because the Giant wanted someone in direct relationship to the herald for the Black Lodge. And I guess the golden orb inside her was the countervailing force against BOB who was also represented by an orb now and then. Und I guess everything would have been fine when BOB possessed Laura.
Why did BOB want to possess her? As Sarah's daughter he could harass the mother even more! More Garmonbozia for the bullfrog to grow! You can be divorced from a husband but not from a daughter.
But I guess in the moment when BOB transferred into Laura the golden orb inside of her would have destroyed the BOB orb.
THAT IS WHY SHE SHOULN'T HAVE TAKEN THE PROTECTION RING! As Cooper told her!
But Laura died, the bullfrog grew up und noone was able to comfort Sarah. And after 25 years of suffering she reached a point of no return. She became the portal for the Black Lodge, the embodiment of Judy. Much stronger than BOB. In a reality where no Laura as her White Lodge-counterpart exists anymore.
And the only way to stop her is to find a way to hinder the bullfrog from growing. How do you do that? You change the past and keep the bullfrog's source of Garmonbozia short.
I think you're right and have read this theory in multiple TP forums about Sarah being the buggy/froggy eater.
man. thats a very thorough and succinct theory. I really dig it. gotta ask tho. with sarahs message to major briggs, would you attribute that to the frogmoth or judy or something/someone else? I, like wowbobwow, always had the impression, albeit likely with no real evidence, that the message was given in order to help. ive tended to lean towards mike being the messenger but ive never come to a solid answer as to who sarah was channeling. and still wonder.
I was always under the same impression. However, I just realized that there is a big hiccup in this theory. Judy materializes in the glass box in one of the first few episodes (can’t remember if it was 1 or 2). If it/she had been dormant and gestating inside of Sarah since 1956 and was always a part of her, how did it/she appear in the box?
I agree. I think the same. :-)
The Mother is everywhere, she's a deity. She doesn't reside only in Sarah Palmer. Her froglings inhabit many people, and she can jump into them at will. They're hosts. There are also numerous timelines, so even if the Mother were only in Sarah Palmer in the current timeline, the glass box could have brought her here from a different timeline, or from the Lodge world, where there isn't a timeline.
Has anyone ever considered that the fireman manufactured Laura in response to Judy (rather than Bob)? Judy being a mother, possesses Sara who becomes the mother of light rather than darkness. Sara/Judy only acts crazy now because Laura is gone. Maybe Laura's presence was keeping Judy in check and Bob was just a wildcard.
Go fish.
4:31 don't forget about Ronette Pulaski. Her death (and without Laura and/or MIKE to stop it, Ronette may well have died in this new reality/timeline) might still have brought in Special Agent Dale Cooper and set up the events of Twin Peaks (s1 and s2) in a slightly different way.
Late reply, I was thinking bout' the same thing... Ronette instead of Laura, could be an alternate spin-off? Perhaps...
Don’t forget... Ronette appears briefly in episode 3, as ‘American Girl’ in that weird chamber of what I’m assuming is the white lodge... with Cooper. She tells him “You’d better hurry, my mother’s coming”. That’s Phoebe Augustine - the actress who plays Ronette.
We're all a bit like Mr. C/BobCooper, when he says, "I don't NEED anything. I WANT..."!
As to who or what is inside Sarah, I take it as a metaphor for all the mind-numbing grief and guilt that's built up inside her over the years since Laura and Leland died, and that's now starting to pour out. First with the Truck You guy at the bar, and then withthe stabbing of Laura's picture, the latter showing how we can both be angry as well as miss our loved ones who've died. I actually took Sarah's stabbing of Laura's picture to be therapeutic, just as I took Laura's scream to be at the finale. Thanks for continuing the discussion.
Great video as always man, your insight and theories are very interesting, and none of us really know except Lynch & Frost 🤔 but we definitely are itching for more 👍😎
awesome insights. Thanks for keeping the theorizing going. I find myself reflecting on this show even now. I agree that the Sarah and Laura connection is key to understanding the mystery.
A welcome return which addresses one of the most mysterious questions that the Return asked. Meanwhile..............
Pleased your back uploading! Great video again!!!!!!!
I’m intrigued by your thoughts on the entity possessing Sarah; however I’m surprised you didn’t mention the white faced, long nosed black lodge spirit! This was the one squeaking and was filmed with a fisheye lens on The Missing Pieces scene that corresponds to Jeffries’ recollection of his encounter above the convenience store. While I don’t understand the significance of this and why this particular spirit would possess Sarah, it is clearly suggested that this is the one as:
1) When Sarah removes her face, the first thing you see is a “spike”-like horn poking out (like the one this being has).
2) You also see a SMILE that you attributed to Laura but doesn’t really correspond to her (Sheryl’s teeth are longer) but are EXACTLY squared and “smiling” as those of the white faced being we see in Jeffries’ memory of Above the Convenience store.
3) When Mr. C asks to see Jeffries, a woodsman turns on the electricity and this same white faced being is shown in fast forward, squeaking quickly and his face morphing. A step-frame viewing clearly shows the face that is morphing to be that of Sarah! (this is in part 15).
4) Cooper goes up the stairs with Mike in Part 17, the same sound as the woodsman’s electricity switch is heard, and the white-faced being/sarah is seen going DOWN the stairs (similar to those of Sarah’s own home). Shortly after, we see and hear Sarah wailing/squealing.
And I think this thing was always in Sarah because you saw this thing get born from Judy and the bug crawl into the little girl’s mouth. I’m surprised no one mentions this because this would be why this being in her would be drawn to Leland as Bob was drawn to him/her as they both ended up near the Waiting Area in Twin Peaks. Also him having white features could correlate to the White Horse about her seeing with the whites of her eyes and not doing anything as she knew about the abuse and did nothing. Maybe that incapsulates what that spirit is
@@thomasdowney4390 Because there is nothing that suggests that the girl from New Mexico in 1956 is Sarah Palmer... that could be anyone as far as we know.
@@KomissarLohmannif I remember correctly last book confirmed Sarah was in New Mexico at the time of atomic bomb blast
Love the pseudo Gilbert Godfried delivery, great video!!
It's time for a new book: The Autobiography of Sarah Palmer! I would buy that in a heartbeat.
I was just suggested this after rewatching the "cherry pie" scene where belushi does a ridiculous dance with the check for 30 million dollars. I absolutely love that even at a surface level, Twin Peaks is super deep; it's the never-ending cosmic horror conflict between good and evil. Is it all in vain? Is it best to just destroy both and restore balance? What the heck did Jeffries become when he's in that teapot of time manipulation?
And then you delve deeper, and it keeps going. Through red curtained halls with zigzagging black and white floors, and ladders leading to nowhere. Be careful, or you might end up stuck like Windam Earle.
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Great piece you did there. Very thought-inducing. Helps me make more sense of the whole Twin Peaks and with that, make the enjoyment all the more. I have absolutely loved the series.
Please keep making these videos about twin peaks the return. I still want more
If Sarah's past did "catch up " w Cooper's past--Sarah smashing the photo of Laura indicates that it did catch up, and that the smashing of the photo probably indicates Laura ran away (or worst case was kidnapped) and Sarah smashing the photo shows her anger and resentment of that act of Laura abandoning their family. Sarah wouldn't be smashing a picture of Laura if Laura was murdered. Being murdered isn't a selfish act if you are the victim. Sarah believes Laura ran away (to Odessa, TX!!! which is where we know she did indeed go to.) And Sarah isn't all that specific about what happened in the store when she's buying Vodka. She says, "Something happened to meeeee" but we don't know if that thing is Laura being killed or Laura running away. Sarah doesn't get into it. It is my belief that Cooper did indeed change the outcome and we see it w the scenes Sarah is in.
I think Laura’s Doppelgänger IS Judy. The Doppelgänger says “sometimes my arms bend back”, and Judy has backwards arms in Episode 8. All of the Doppelgängers have whited out eyes when they’re in The Lodge, maybe that’s because they’re in Judy’s control, and Judy has taken the form of Laura’s doppelgänger, in some twisted irony. Then, the extreme negative force of Sarah’s depression allowed Judy’s possession of Sarah to be completed. Considering Judy appears mostly formless, I think it’s entirely possible that she can shapeshift in some way, tending to take the form of Laura Palmer.
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It can't be Laura's doppelganger, a person and their double can't be on earth at the same time, and Laura was back alive and gone from the lodge while Sarah was tearing up her picture.
Actually, the Final Dossier states that Ronnette was still attacked and Cooper still came to Twin Peaks to investigate Laura’s disappearance.
Sarah was corrupted in 1956 when that creature entered her. It left her vulnerable to spiritual darkness.
You never disappoint me with that itching clip.
You should check out the theories about Sarah on Reddit. Sarah's face is superimposed on the Jumping Man's during one Black Lodge scene, which strongly suggests somehow that the two are connected. Some people think the Jumping Man is thus the one possessing Sarah.
I'm still not convinced that the past did, absolutely, change. The vision of a changed past might have only a been a tease -- this is what was ABOUT to happen, but then Laura was snatched away again and the timeline corrected itself. Remember, in FWWM, Laura screams at something in the dark that James can't see. In The Return we see that that thing was Cooper, suggesting that Cooper was always there.
Or maybe, as suggested in the video, there was a split -- one where Laura's body washed up on the shore and one where Laura vanished into the night. She would be "dead" either way, the town would still suffer a trauma, but details of that trauma would of course be different.
Dude you and that damn itch lol. Love your videos. They keep me constantly thinking and re-evaluating my thoughts on the finale and the show’s method as a whole. Keep up the good work!
I believe that the closed captions for the final episode of season 2 indicated "voice of Windom Earle" when Sarah spoke. As I understand it, the original idea for a third season would've involved Major Briggs being the one to save the good Dale from the Black Lodge, so that scene might have been a setup for that idea.
Good timing, I just finished EW's Twin Peaks: A Podcast About Twin Peaks podcast recap episodes, and I was thinking about how much I missed you today...
I think it was revealed that Sarah was the one the frog/roach thing crawled into during episode 8, so it was probably a representation of Judy, or a part of Judy?
To get all the answers, you should also read the 2 books, one is about gent Cooper and how he became who he is and abt hs work for the FBI and his former partner and abt Twin Peaks, but esp Laura Palmer's diary, which is a great book on itself, but also explains who she was and what she went through, with Bob, her dad and her mother and her relationship with them, but esp abt her own desires and fears. I hven't seen the last season yet, waited so long, but it wasn't out here, but now I do and am doing some research, coz this was my favorite show and it's books, I read them often, esp her diary, if you haven't read it, you loved this show, you really should read them, both are very good, but different, coz of who and what they are. It also explains a bit why Laura went on such a dangerous path in her youth, which ultimatly ended up killing her, but not before some troublesome choices, relations with older and eve dangerous men, but also her friendship with her best friend Donna. A must read if you want the whole back story of the 2 most important characters, esp coz its her diry, secrets of the ppl in Twin Peaks and hers.
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Grace Zabriskie is a great actress and Sarah Palmer is the darkest character in Season 3 (which is some accolade, given the competition). I think the Judy entity is an analogue of Choronzon 333, a hostile demonic entity that feeds on grief, negative emotion, and the pain that an addict, in a loop of torment, allows them to harvest. Mark Frost touches on the occult implications in his 'The Final Dossier'.
To further add to your idea of Cooper wanting Laura and Sarah/Judy to meet, I think that last scene where Laura hears Sarah calling her, then screams, people seem to think that Sarah's calling was making Carrie Paige remember she was Laura. I think very much like when Cooper is Dougie Jones and then gets awakened by MIKE just like that, Laura is awakened in the same way and her scream is a counter-attack response to Sarah/Judy's calling, who I think was still in the house, which is why all the lights were shut off, wiping Sarah/Judy out.
It's safe to say a thin veil separates Twin Peaks and a alternative reality. This entity, like Cooper and Briggs, walks between worlds and took residence in Sarah. These entities from time to time show us glimpses of a alternative reality and the duality that rests between the host and the entity. It's filled with so much mystical Irony.
Season 3 really catered for the senses, it was so emotionally intelligent. He stripped us all bare, he did not allow us to become comfortable. It went beyond what the eyes can see and the ears hear, he really reached within himself and such was his pull he took a few of us with him. Always in search of new emotion, like a parasite, he is never happy until he has gone beneath the surface. It's like looking into a mirror, trying to identify with the face that is staring back at you. Your face soon loses shape and you focus on the energy of the eyes (soul) It's more than a face, more than a feeling. By projecting and going beyond, he gives union to such feelings/energy.
I could go on and on but to my own peril. Haha.
Missed your videos
Sarah is possessed by sorrow, a sorrow she did notthing to avoid because she witnessed everything that happened to Laura without protecting her. But during 25 years she learned to love her sorrow wich gives her an excuse to give up, to drink. What is she watching on TV ? So, if you learn to forget logic and temporality, wich are illusions, the scene where Sarah is stabbing Laura's picture is the methaphor of a self destructed middle class nearly noone woman who is losing what made her special, what gave her the comfort of doing no effort no more without being judged but being complained. Judy is not a demon, it's a feeling, a beloved and auto centered despair.
Jiao dai may be translated by "to confess" ...
Great to see you're back. Idea for another video, was Maddie a Tulpa?
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You should do a revision of this video with the Final Dossier information. Your voice makes the discussion very interesting... adds additional depth.
I think the two spiky things that emerge from her face are the clue that she is, in fact, possessed by Judy, and that she was the little girl in the flashback sequence. The symbol that Mr. C carries with him has them too, as did the little frog creature.
The short version: Sarah was possessed by Jao de. Cooper was tricked; he was allowed out of the lodge in order to find the real Laura and bring her to Jao de. The real Laura was saved by the "Angels" at the end of FWWM. The Laura we see in the lodge is another entity. The real Laura was hidden in another reality by these angels.
Malevolent entities (the arm, Mike) help Cooper throughout series. Just because they help him, does this mean they have suddenly become benevolent? No; they want to find the real Laura and bring her to Jao de, & Cooper is their means of doing so. Also notice how that, while Cooper has some words with the giant, it is no longer his guide. Mike & the arm were his guides; again, these are evil lodge entities, while the giant was always presented as benevolent. The Season 3 Leland was another entity-look at the eyes..."Find Laura". That wasn't the real Leland.
My final take is that Cooper's soul is lost to the lodge. It is as Hawk said in S2; Cooper's courage was imperfect when he faced "the dweller on the threshold", & he was destroyed/enslaved. Now he serves the whims of these entities, what's left of him that is. His soul is fractured into multiple pieces and he is displaced from space and time. PS: Miss the great reviews!!
I thought Sarah was the little girl with the frog moth thingie and maybe she was poseesed all her life since then?
Correct me if I'm wrong - Cole's vision of Laura is from Fire Walk With Me. It is one of the scenes directly after Laura finally establishes the BOB/Leland connection. (Forgive my poor memory, but I _think_ it might be from outside the Palmer house as soon as she finds out, or it's the footage from when Donna opens her front door to see Laura standing there, completely distraught.) So perhaps, in the version where Laura runs away, her decision was prompted by her discovery, and that is why Cole remembers both versions - because this is the diverging moment where Laura decides to run away instead of going to her death.
Something was off with Sarah in Season 1; she was portrayed as having a psychic gift, and she able to clearly see Bob. She's clearly connected to the Lodge somehow. From what I initially thought, Sarah was the little girl in Season 3, Episode 8. What exactly was the bug-frog thing that crawled into Sarah's mouth? An evil spawn of Judy, or was it an elemental part of Judy herself?
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So does this mean (and I can't believe this never clicked in my brain before) that Pete may have never been with Andrew at the bank?
Is Pete still alive in the new reality?
I must know!
Anyway... I think that Sarah is possessed by Laura's doppleganger.
I don't think Judy possesses people... she produces the beings which then possess people.
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I believe that it was The Arm, who informed Major Briggs through Sarah, because in the next scene you're in the corridor to the waiting room and you hear The Arm's slightly electronically altered voice saying "I'm waiting for you," which fits the message.
As for Laura and Sarah and their facelids: what if the shining bright light represents Laura's cleansed self and newfound purity after she had died, and the darkness inside Sarah represents her neverending pain and suffering from her inability to overcome the deaths of Laura and Leland? The TV programs represent Sarah being stuck in that situation, her inner struggle where darkness is boxing against light and the light always loses; and predators killing weaker animals. Also, since Sarah is able to take off her face, does that mean, she's also in the Lodge, but in a version which is more like a holodeck in Star Trek, so that she doesn't see the chevron floor and the red curtains, but normal everyday life? Is the Carrie Page segment also like a holodeck simulation, hence Cooper trying to find the exit through the curtains and wondering what year it is? Is the whole Lodge infrastructure regardless of colors a purer place, either pure darkness or pure light? Could it be that all of the red room is both Black and White Lodge depending on the direction you go? And is it possible that the distinction between reality and Lodge dream space is actually artificial but has to be presented that way to show us its underlying concepts and dynamics and how Lodge dream space influences reality and how reality influences Lodge dream space?
Power house video, welcome back. I think Sarah still doesn't exist, I'm thinking Sarah is the doppelganger of Laura but from the future. It could of been covered up because don't forget Leland had been possessed by BoB since he was a boy. I think BoB/Leland and Sarah were trying to make a vessel for the mother of evil. Only problem with Laura was when she was conceived the giant/fireman purified her soul. What if Coop eventually realises he has to let Laura get killed to correct the timeline, Coop however makes a Laura with a seed and that's the one that's killed while the real Laura goes on the run from the lodge entities.
Remember, though, Laura still disappears in the past and her disappearance is never solved. Cooper goes there to investigate, but doesn't solve the case. Maybe he still got pulled into the Black Lodge. Laura would've been yanked out of Twin Peaks and sent to the Carrie Page universe where she had no memory of her true identity (till the very end, of course). Also, it's been confirmed that the girl in 1956 was a young Sarah, so, obviously she became possessed when the frog-moth climbed into her mouth. Like Leland, she might have spent most of her life not realizing or not remembering she was possessed.
Another possibility is The Jumping Man. He/She escaped from the lodge when Coop entered it in part 17 (or 18, don´t remember). Remember Sarah Palmers super imposed face on The Jumping Man in an earlier episode.
I think that Dale still arrived in Twin Peaks because of William Earle. Don't forget that Earle wanted to find the Black Lodge, therefore Cooper & him would've made it to Twin Peaks at the point of Earle's arrival in Season 2.
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Keep them coming! Please re-watch the series and let us know your theories!
A couple of questions: 1. If Laura, saved from death, was whisked away, to be hid in Odessa for 25 years--until Cooper could return--then, from the Twin Peaks perspective she disappeared without a trace, so it has a similar effect on the people and town as her death would have caused. She was probably presumed dead within months. Given the earlier mysteries, the supernatural events in the town and in Indian times, the fact that Major Briggs is already there, and the existence of the Blue Rose task force, maybe the FBI and Cooper would have come to Twin Peaks in 1989 anyway--without the rationale of Laura's death or the crossing of state lines. 2. If the frogmoth, created by the atomic bomb test, crawled into the mouth of Sarah Palmer when she was a teenager, then she's been a vessel for evil forces and perhaps Judy for a long time (and we remember that Mr. C is told he's already met Judy). Sarah was always a bit "off", even before Laura's death/disappearance. She is inhabited, but like Diane's tulpa, maybe she also has parts of her innocent self--so in Fire Walk With Me she is reacting to her husband and Laura from a mother's nervous caring, also, as well as the dark spirits within her. 3. If Laura was created as a response to the creation of Bob (and both were created as a response to the atomic bomb), then it is no wonder that the Palmer family is a place of conflict between two forces--in fact, it begins to look like Bob went to infest Leland not randomly but specifically because he knew that Laura was his rival and he went to that house to torment and kill Laura (she was a representative of the power of good) and then Bob looked additionally for a way to remain on earth (via Cooper, as it turned out, after Leland's death). Maybe he also was able to get to Leland because Leland was married to Sarah, who had some connection (the frogmoth?) to evil spirits. Maybe the frogmoth was sent on that mission. In this view, the creation of Bob and Laura set in motion forces of evil and good that had to confront each other. Bob won round 1, Laura wins round 2 at the end of Park 18. 4. Let's also note that Sarah is becoming sexually aware as a teenager (if that is her with the frogmoth) and Laura, as she entered sexual awareness was subverted by Leland/Bob and fell into drugs and prostitution, meaning that there is a pre-sexual innocence that is being attacked by older-self-centered male desire. So we have a larger parable that is about innocence/purity and dark sexuality. But that's also parallel to the atomic bomb--the pre-atomic bomb innocent world has been forever shocked by the bomb into a new spiritual place.
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This is an interesting theory. The idea of Laura's doppleganger taking advantage of Sarah works on multiple levels. For instance, when Dona comes to commiserate with Sarah (I think it's S1, E2), Sarah sees her daughter's face superimposed on Donna's. Her immediate reaction is to embrace Donna aggressively. Elsewhere below in the comments, someone mentioned that Sarah was somehow complicit in Leland's abuse of Laura. There are, I think, multiple signs of this in both the original series and in FWWM. These factors might have combined to allow Laura's doppleganger entry into Sarah.
However, I would not discount the Windom Earle connection so readily. If you pause your video at 1:57 as Laura's doppleganger goes into her screaming fit, you will see a red-tinged photographic negative of Windom Earle's face flash in the strobe lights. Could the soul of Windom Earle (which was "taken" by BOB later in the episode) be involved with this in some way?
I'm inclined to believe that hatchling form episode 8 was Judy inhabiting Sarah and it just lay dormant until a serious tragedy struck
Good theory. The smile and finger explanation work for me.
My theory, continuum one I read a while back, that she was the girl who swallowed the frog moth in 1958, that the frog moth was a mark created by Judy to allow Bob to follow the Palmer family. And to add onto it, I believe she was possessed by Chalfont, as this entity has a history of lying about who lives wherever. I believe Cooper is in the right universe and timeline, he’s just confused because of Chalfont and believing that Bob can’t harass him nor Laura anymore
I like the idea that the two birds with one stone are Laura and her doppleganger. This may be why Coop's attempt to save Laura as he's leading her through the woods fails - he can't do it while her doppleganger is possessing Sarah, both need dealing with at the same time. The final episode and the creation of the pocket universe through sex magic can be seen as an attempt to trap Laura and possessed Sarah together and destroy the pocket universe, impacting the Twin Peaks universe in a devastating way.
I think Sarah was possessed by Laura’s doppelgänger who is possessed by Judy
If you look closely at the Mother as she attacks Sam and Tracy, she seems to bear the same smiling mouth that Sarah Palmer hides behind her face right before she kills the goon at the bar.
Allways a pleasure to see your videos, but I do have one remark:
- You are talking about Laura's doppelganger possesing Sarah - But is this really the way that the Doppelganger are acting in Twin Peaks? The parasites/demons (Bob and Mike) needs "a vehicle", but the Doppelgangers seems to have a physical form of their own and therefore Evil-Laura wouldn't need (or can't?) possess Sarah?
Oscar A well. Though true, he also didn't spend 4 years on a season to bullshit us. I believe there is an art to his madness. Even if subconscious.
Funny watching this video in 2022 while doing a re-watch of S3! Coincidently, time-slips and the entities, who seem to exist over multiple dimensions and multiple time lines with intertwining memories of all the time lines. I am reminded of the 'turkey jerky' incident with Sarah Palmer in S3:E12 where she *seems* to experience a time-slip 'memory' of the original event depicted on Hawk's map showing the black corn and the 'turkey'. She asks the clerk 'were you here when they first came' which I take as a reference to original events in the map (she also asks if the turkey is 'smoked'). It would seem she is not only possessed but that the entity 'remembers' the events that occurred between the Nez Perce and (perhaps) either a 'first contact' with the entity or with the 'white people' (Twisted Hair refers to 'white people' who might have been Lodge spirits, see ' The Secret History of Twin Peaks)???
I believe Judy posessed Sarah all all along. It answers a lot of questions about the strange behavior of Mrs Palmer all along.
I thought she might have channelled the little boy in the mask and/or the jumping man from Fire Walk With Me.
I agree with what makes the new season so great. I had the same feeling at the end.
In season 2’s finale, Sarah tells Major Briggs “I’m in the black lodge with Dale Cooper” in a distorted voice. Maybe she’s been inhabited for long before than, or maybe the real Sarah is stuck in the black lodge
Easy.... Judy. Judy is ‘the mother’. The ‘mother’ pukes out the stream that produces ‘the eggs’. An egg reaches Earth... in the New Mexico desert in 1956, hatches... out comes frogbug (a little piece of Judy). Frogbug finds it’s way to teenage Sarah Palmer... crawls inside of her... BOOM. Possession. Not much else to deduce.
The brutal attack on the truck driver made me remember the way Laura used to sleep with truck drivers as shown in FWWM the week the 'possessed sara' ep was shown I actually wrote this to a podcast I was listening to: " I had a slightly loopy thought this week, but just a very random what if, what if it's Laura or more specifically an element of Laura, the only other person who's taken their face off so far. I know Laura's face contained white light but that was in the Red Room and she then screams horribly as she's dragged out - who pulled her out. In the original series elements of Laura were desperately good but other parts were twisted and dark and if anyone would have a desire to rain down brutal vengeance on a predatory man, and not just that but a truck driver it would be her. Keep in mind in FWWM Laura is shown being picked up by truck drivers and it's implied that's a regular thing. What if Laura has been split (as with the doppelgangers) the dark part of Laura's soul returned to the site of her abuse and took up residence in the mother who deliberately/or carelessly ignored Leland's activities. The smile in Sarah's face just reminded me of the dark smile Laura sometimes had when she was trying to intimidate people Meanwhile The Fireman is taking the good in her (the gold) and sending it down to live/fight BOB again" Obviously event after the ep show some of this to be off or answer questions such as 'who pulled Laura out of the Red Room' but I loved hearing that someone else was having similar thoughts !
the dwarf said i'm in the lodge with dale cooper, it immediately cuts to him before the commercial finishing his sentence.
I know this was 6 years ago, but great analysis.
Good art creates discourse. Lynch has certainty succeeded in doing that.
Yep. He’s been doing that since at least 1977.
Great video, and nice theory. Something I haven't seen anyone mention yet is that when Sarah puts her hand to her face to peel it open, the hand inside appears to also peel open whatever is there to reveal the smile. This would lead me to believe that whatever is possessing Sarah is itself also possessed (by the smiler). Could that be both Judy and Laura's doppelgänger? It's just a detail that is bothering me as I haven't seen anyone else address it (the idea of a double unveiling). What might its significance might be though...
And another detail that I've yet to see anyone else mention yet, is the fact that we have heard Laura, or her doppelgänger, mention, whilst in the black lodge, that she "feel(s) like I know her, but sometimes my arms bend back". Has anyone else noticed that the levitating image of the mother vomiting Bob has its arms bending in the wrong direction? I first noticed that detail during my first watching of episode 8 and I got a chill run down my spine. Are Judy and Dopple-Laura "one and the same" (inside Sarah).