Did Nahida Just Buff Ganyu in Genshin Impact!?

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  • Nahida has opened some doors for Ganyu melt comps, and maybe others in the future! I am very excited to keep testing this team out in the future! #genshinimpact
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  • @yqisq6966
    @yqisq6966 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Discovering new synergies between new and old characters is such an enjoyable part of the Genshin expereince.

  • @Proxylamborg
    @Proxylamborg ปีที่แล้ว +469

    Nahida is really great. It's awesome that she is viable in a ton of teams.

    • @umbragecko7520
      @umbragecko7520 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      yeah she sure is great...... i heard..... i try to pull........ 140 primo gems in...... got at a mona and now i am still 20 away from her (life sure is a Tragic Comedy)

    • @deyleigh6487
      @deyleigh6487 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@umbragecko7520 u ok, bro?

    • @boyjantan9337
      @boyjantan9337 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Best of all. Master of none

    • @umbragecko7520
      @umbragecko7520 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@deyleigh6487 nope i am suffering seeing everybody getting her......she won't dodging me forever even if it takes me until the rerun 😖

    • @ezraqi2909
      @ezraqi2909 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@boyjantan9337 Well she's master of dendro applicator, what do u mean none?

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan ปีที่แล้ว +472

    What's nice is the range, without Xiangling, Ganyu is no longer a close- mid range archer. She can be like Tighnari now.

    • @yqisq6966
      @yqisq6966 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yes. This unlocks the full potential of charge shots of a bow user - which is its unlimited range unlike auto-attacks.

    • @Sc4r4byte
      @Sc4r4byte ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ah yes, the annual "Amber is meta again" pipeline.

    • @imjustlikedenji5954
      @imjustlikedenji5954 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@yqisq6966 Especially for people that have Amos Bow, since it benefits from longer range

    • @imjustlikedenji5954
      @imjustlikedenji5954 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Sc4r4byte Amber was never meta and never will be sadly. I wish they gave her some kinda bonus for burning effect but she's a free 4 star so they ain't gonna bother.

    • @shadowkhan422
      @shadowkhan422 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@imjustlikedenji5954 She doeshave more uses now at least . If you use Ganyu Amber and Nahida team, you can destroy Azdaha while bypasing all of his bulshit . But yeah , Amber still need omega buff

  • @TheRealIronMan
    @TheRealIronMan ปีที่แล้ว +239

    3:10 You can spam charge shots, that Pyro was gone because you missed a shot, you need that shot to trigger a reaction so Nahida E can pop off reapply Burning, without that reaction Burning doesnt last.

    • @yqisq6966
      @yqisq6966 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This comment needs a bump.

    • @buffmon1038
      @buffmon1038 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I tested it if Ganyu's really close, it does go away if you spam it. You have to time it with Nahida's e proc. It just seems like it doesn't go away since he was far from the enemy.

    • @shun.ei19
      @shun.ei19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. I think it needs to react first before it happens. I tried Tri-Karma element and you need reactions.

    • @SmartyPoohBear
      @SmartyPoohBear ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You can't spam it cause nahida's (without c1 or electro in the party) tri-karma only procs every 2.5 second. If you apply too much cryo before that time, it'll eat up all the pyro aura before dendro can refresh the burning.

    • @greenvega
      @greenvega ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zajef already explained this,u will be fine when u do perfect timing or bad timing,but when u do good timing u can remove pyro,so just delaying little bit will be better than trying perfection but missing timing:)

  • @icezzzz
    @icezzzz ปีที่แล้ว +781

    hey everyone mtashed here

    • @pillguy7029
      @pillguy7029 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Mashed potatoes

    • @fullyf2p40
      @fullyf2p40 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@RogerNbr It's "Hey Vsauce, Michael here". 😭

    • @xAvr1l
      @xAvr1l ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes

    • @darylonggg
      @darylonggg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No you're not

    • @meowzur6960
      @meowzur6960 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This changes everything

  • @kuronekosama6125
    @kuronekosama6125 ปีที่แล้ว +252

    As a veteran Ganyu main you must feel excited
    As for me as well 😂

    • @faririzki1422
      @faririzki1422 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, I always play ganyu melt, 'cause I don't have venti and mona before

    • @yourmomprobably9104
      @yourmomprobably9104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@faririzki1422 i play ganyu melt cuz i use ayaka to freeze hehe

    • @wesleyson21
      @wesleyson21 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah as a Ganyu main who has pulled a con on every one of her banners I love this new team comp.

    • @faririzki1422
      @faririzki1422 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yourmomprobably9104 as ganyu main I refuse ayaya

  • @Razorfiend
    @Razorfiend ปีที่แล้ว +197

    She's the first 5 star that I have decided to push to 6 stars because her versatility is insane.

    • @boyjantan9337
      @boyjantan9337 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I saw c6 nahida did One shot the 2 abyss mage hydro. My c0 raiden like back off and bow to her

    • @d173adpool
      @d173adpool ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lol so true

    • @0megalul309
      @0megalul309 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i had to c2 r1, c2 is good, the weapon moreso fashion impact/supporting dps.

    • @Phoenix-O
      @Phoenix-O ปีที่แล้ว +6

      C6 or ascended to sixth star?(which I’m pretty sure means level 90)

    • @enryu7886
      @enryu7886 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      zamn what ? u must be new to the game i have been lvl 90ing my characters since 1.4 or 1.5

  • @TheNewRevolution
    @TheNewRevolution ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love it when you do videos like this. I personally find these types of videos really helpful.

  • @zackjdl
    @zackjdl ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Nahida's E procs from ANY reaction on a marked target, not just hers. So you could have Kazuha swirl some fire which will proc the Dendro as an example.

    • @siliconhawk
      @siliconhawk ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah i noticed this when using a hyperbloom team. the seed bursts it procks dendro boom a new seed appears and then that bursts and then new seed. lol ngl its one of my favourite things to do. killings stuff automatically with hyperbloom nahida. maybe throw in raiden for automatic homing missiles

  • @rawena115
    @rawena115 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    You could try Sunfire Jean with Ayaka. Make her burst melt the Pyro with Bennett's and Jean's ult. Nahida can fit there to buff EM and make even more sure that the Pyro stays on the enemy.

    • @robinj4286
      @robinj4286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But Ayaka As too high cryo Application and it's too fast too. Even just sprinting with will apply cryo. Is it possible to Melt all of Ayaka's Atks.

    • @sarthaksrivastava6053
      @sarthaksrivastava6053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robinj4286 all of her burst ticks will not melt

    • @robinj4286
      @robinj4286 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sarthaksrivastava6053 I want to try that since I have her in other than freeze. Mine is on a non Blizzard strayer Build. So I use without relying on the set bonus. that's why I asked.

    • @sarthaksrivastava6053
      @sarthaksrivastava6053 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinj4286 go for it. If she is not on Blizzard strayer then you need not worry about crit and some of her ticks will melt this greatly increasing damage. I'll also try this since I use my ayaka is also non Blizzard strayer

    • @mainfish88
      @mainfish88 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robinj4286 i have mained ayaka for over a year now, and i feel like it really doesnt matter! well built with good invested team, weather only proc'in 3 melts or freeze she will easily bet anything in the game

  • @calethos
    @calethos ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I tried it last night. Nahida's skill says it triggers on all reactions, and it means all reactions. I got a cryo crystallize comp and kept getting Nahida procs. It procs from swirl too. It's SOOO good.

    • @yqisq6966
      @yqisq6966 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait does it mean Nahida has a spot for Noelle mains?

    • @barreltitor1419
      @barreltitor1419 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yqisq6966 especially c2 with that fatass 30% def shred

    • @snowflak6173
      @snowflak6173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@yqisq6966 did noelle do elemental reaction?

    • @lowspender147
      @lowspender147 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@snowflak6173 crystalize only, that's a reaction too

    • @cholop5211
      @cholop5211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yqisq6966 proc wise as mentioned, it is. synergy wise? no

  • @GSIndonesia
    @GSIndonesia ปีที่แล้ว +77

    This is probably the reason why Dendro and Cryo wont have any reaction together. Mihoyo have thought about this combo all along with Nahida. Cz when you apply pyro on enemy, then you cast Nahida's skill, it will leave the mark that will deal dendro damage each time theres a reaction thus resulting in burning reaction. So, all you need to do is apply cryo on a burning enemy and it will trigger melt and --> the melt reaction will trigger Nahida's skill which is Dendro damage again --> then it will trigger burning because of Dendro and Pyro --> then you can apply cryo over and over again and the burning reaction will keep enemy to have a pyro Aura and Nahida's skill to keep them burning and it will result in a melting looping reaction. And it's even better with Nahida's skill because the mark lasts 25 seconds and it can be refreshed due to her low CD skill

    • @yqisq6966
      @yqisq6966 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yeah having 'hidden' synergies like this is much more fun than directly scripted interactions.

    • @kawaiimika7974
      @kawaiimika7974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It took you 3 months to figure that out or are you just mentioning it XD

    • @This_Origami
      @This_Origami ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and apples are red

    • @miniroseyo
      @miniroseyo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kawaiimika7974 shut up nerd

    • @miniroseyo
      @miniroseyo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@This_Origami you have acne

  • @toothis7280
    @toothis7280 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm pretty sure the only reason why ganyu wasn't able to always melt on the golden wolflord is because the pyro wasn't shared between multiple mobs which would imply that the pyro wasn't effecting mobs with pyro as often. So with bosses you may have to wait a couple seconds but with multiple targets you could most likely gurantee you can always get those melts. Although idk it was just what I thought looking at it

    • @Mizi08
      @Mizi08 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it's mostly due to the ICD of Nahilda which triggers every 2-2.5s. just make sure you don't spam your shots before Nahida can trigger burning again. Timing is key

    • @ethannguyen7562
      @ethannguyen7562 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Mizi08 it's not ICD, Nahida got no ICD, it's the Tri-Karma Purification trigger inteval, with 1 electro teammate this interval can be reduced but it's not worth it in this setup.

    • @sarminfatema1136
      @sarminfatema1136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ethannguyen7562 I think they meant the elemental skill procc cool down.

    • @stoink_6056
      @stoink_6056 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Huh isnt it because wolflord flying everywhere that u cant apply pyro unless using burning reaction?

    • @Mizi08
      @Mizi08 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ethannguyen7562 what other skill of hers that triggers off-field? That's the skill I was referring to

  • @webflexprime9088
    @webflexprime9088 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @mtashed I have a team for you to try. Nahida, ayato, raiden, bediou quick bloom. Full EM raiden on gilded to trigger seeds as bediou ult will not hit them. For added meme, run ayato on thundering fury for unlimited elemental skill. Big pp damage emblem build for beidou.
    Nahida and raiden will quicken everything, ayato will generate seeds and be on field dps, beidou will proc aggravate and nahida will spread. U don't need nahidas burst in this team so you can run crit nahida for spread damage on deepwood set.

  • @christophermauro-barias7451
    @christophermauro-barias7451 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    im so glad mashed is playing the game and hasn't given up on it like tectone

    • @joshuam.6027
      @joshuam.6027 ปีที่แล้ว

      did tectone finally quit? he needs to stop torturing himself for views.

    • @TheGodJames
      @TheGodJames ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joshuam.6027 he whaled out all the fun out of the game so yeah. He ain’t pulling anymore characters as of now. I guess he soft quit the game

    • @meyeneetuks4680
      @meyeneetuks4680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheGodJames prolly good for his bank account lmao

    • @fenn__fenn
      @fenn__fenn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He “gives up” every two weeks, who cares. It’s clearly clickbait

  • @TigerKwan
    @TigerKwan ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The fact that Nahida allows for 100% up time for pyro application it means you honestly don't need Xian ling anymore, So at its core you just need a bennet and nahida which provides amazing attck% buff, em buff etc. Throw in a reaction based dps like ganyu yes but I like the idea of Ayato. Constant foward vapes. And the final slot is completely flexable. more dps like a fischl, shield like zondong, etc. nahida is abslutely cracked out of her mind
    edit: I think and what i didnt realize is that because cyro doesnt react with dendro it doesnt clear the burning on an enemy. but because hydro does you dont have 100% pyro up time with ayato. truely a sadge moment

    • @yourmomprobably9104
      @yourmomprobably9104 ปีที่แล้ว

      and what about melt ayaka? 🗿

    • @chicoricorivera8183
      @chicoricorivera8183 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ayato applies hydro too fast...it'll remove burning tho

    • @buzzifivegaming6005
      @buzzifivegaming6005 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yourmomprobably9104 She's too fast

    • @yourmomprobably9104
      @yourmomprobably9104 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buzzifivegaming6005 sad my babygirl is too fast but i have ganyu so it's ok

    • @aminulhussain2277
      @aminulhussain2277 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Burning doesn't apply enough pyro for forwards vaporise to be consistent.

  • @pc49.
    @pc49. ปีที่แล้ว +17

    she can also provide em as a passive along with artifacts
    so u could actually go full atk sands with ganyu and do more damage

  • @T4NN34
    @T4NN34 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s so funny that Thoma has you intrigued because I just started building mine to test with nahida as well

    • @iiiKomi_Korneriii
      @iiiKomi_Korneriii ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm really curious about the possibilty with Thoma. I've always liked him but never had a need for his unit, would be nice to utilize him to his full potential

  • @Anonymous-sd6hq
    @Anonymous-sd6hq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way the elemental gaige works is when you trigger burning the pyro aura gets used up by the cryo charge shots but when you trigger Melt, nahida will apply dendro to the remaining pyro and produce a new burning aura. Also if you want to test out Thoma in a good comp for him a burgeon team is one of his best.

  • @rkwhi2280
    @rkwhi2280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is amazing. I can’t wait to get good artifacts and character to do this. I got Nadhia, Xiaing, Bennet, but no Ganyu or Kazyha.

  • @5h0ckblock
    @5h0ckblock ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I lost the 50/50 but one team I wanted to test was a Shatter Bloom with Nahida Chongyun Xinqui and Diona. On paper Nahida and Diona will funnel EM into Chongyun for more powerful shatters, but more importantly enemies will be frozen and can't move away from the blooms. Yes, you break the ice but it'll be reapplied right after.

    • @stylerxo3654
      @stylerxo3654 ปีที่แล้ว

      This sounds so stupid, but so funny at the same time. Lmao

    • @siliconhawk
      @siliconhawk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stylerxo3654 i love it because it seems stupid. with the coming of dendro crazy mad man gameplay is the thing you are looking for, especially nilou hyperbloom sucide squad team. lol and the automatic homing missiles with electro hydro and dendro. its soo fun ngl. now this shatter team with chongyu sounds fun. imagine freezing enemies and killing them by breaking the ice. sounds like a anime or movie shit.

  • @Noncreditbox7
    @Noncreditbox7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tenha's Diluc Burgeon comp is very interesting. Makes diluc a lot more fun in my opinion

  • @ssun9074
    @ssun9074 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man, the temptation to pull for Nahida really is insane, seeing as Ganyu and now recently Cyno have been two of my main DPS units. But I can't, I want Layla and Scara too badly!

    • @jadmurr7883
      @jadmurr7883 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I say get her since she is a godly support and you already have cyno and ganyu who are both dps characters, so I think Nahida would be more usefull to you than scaramouche, +do whtvr you want, fun is the main goal

    • @ssun9074
      @ssun9074 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jadmurr7883 At this point I really don't care, I can do most of Abyss without any problem, I can solo most bosses with Ganyu and do the triangle boss with Cyno in like under a minute. I'll definitely get her on rerun at some point cause she is absolutely broken, but without any endgame to prep for I'm just getting the characters I want for now

  • @prakash2814
    @prakash2814 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pair sucrose and Nahida. You will have insane EM. Bennett and ganyu reverse melt will be cracked out of their mind.

    • @femmenic
      @femmenic ปีที่แล้ว

      But then doesn’t the EM that Nahida gives go to Sucrose? Sorry I’m still trying to learn her whole kit and how it works

  • @jacoblol901
    @jacoblol901 ปีที่แล้ว

    tysm for finding this omg this changes everything

  • @Remnant9947
    @Remnant9947 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It actually kinda funny, if you do the charge shot perfectly like almost frame perfect it works every time but slightly slower it doesn’t work, but if it is slower than that it also works so it’s kinda funny that near perfection is worse than not perfect😂

  • @whisperviz1346
    @whisperviz1346 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    pros :
    Fix energy problem (Xiangling burst)
    Fix the need of shield (because your ganyu need to shoot from close range to keep xiangling burst applying pyro)
    cons :
    Need to properly burn your enemies first (which ez pz thanks to Nahida)

    • @shadowkhan422
      @shadowkhan422 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You still sorta need a shield since you are slow when charging shots - dodging tanks your DPS. You CAN however keep attacking from any range now. Before Ayaka and Ganyu workd in same range and same teams whith Ayaka being slightly better(or so I heard) . Now they actually have different roles to play . Any small and/or moving boss you will want Ganyu over Ayka now. Ganyu couldnt use her range advantage before(without losing reaction damage) , now she finally can.

    • @dreadment5299
      @dreadment5299 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You still need a shield if you are planning to use bennet because circle impact limits your movement not allowing you to keep the range, also specially with bennet the only reliable way to apply aoe pyro is through the ult which means you will have to ult while being nearby opponents so still need a shield either way, it’s not about whether you are able to dodge or not but more so that dodging mid-charge cancels the charge which is a major dps loss, and obviously getting hit too is a major dps loss, the main thing about shields on ganyu is to prevent interruption not protect you really

  • @HoezellCadarn
    @HoezellCadarn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:30 110455 from reverse melt charged shot second hit feels nice!

  • @necro4843
    @necro4843 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nahida is a game changer for me, because I can use her in Diluc burgeon team..I love to see all the number pops of..it was satisfying 😊

  • @Jjdude101
    @Jjdude101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh wow! I LOVE THIS! They are THRIVING! Definitely going to play this comp!! Almost done farming mats for our Adorable Dendro Archon!

  • @siliconhawk
    @siliconhawk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dendro has made electro one of the best element in the game. and probably THE BEST when it comes to having fun gameplay. like now a dendro and electro team is my favourite thing add in a hydro like kokomi and man its just chef kiss

  • @geloegalang3418
    @geloegalang3418 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am happy to see you MTASHED enjoy creating Genshin Content again.

  • @fenrirthephantomwolf2287
    @fenrirthephantomwolf2287 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was using Xiangling, Bennett and Zhongli with my Ganyu since I’ve got her but since Nahida, I’ve change Xiangling for her in my melt ganyu team. I won’t deny, I prefer this new team comp rather than Xiangling (even tho she’s C6..)

    • @shadowkhan422
      @shadowkhan422 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Problem with Xianling is , you have to play close range(and her Q uptime has energy issues even with Bennet and 200+ ER) . Nahida doesnt need Bennet(any pyro works though he still best for Ganyu) , she works from any range(so you can actually play your ranged DPS at range!) , the uptime is a lot simpler etc.
      There are just to many benefits when using Kusanali over Xianling.

  • @desolatorstorm142
    @desolatorstorm142 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try running this. Thoma as the shielder and pyro applier (bonus for easy and flexible pyro application, Nahida, and Sucrose. Sucrose's 20% EM sharing does not require her to swirld the correct element while being able to gather enemies and giving thrilling tales. This is an alternative to running Bennet Zhongli.

  • @polishgopnik3089
    @polishgopnik3089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mtashed i luv your videos i hope i'm not writing this comment to late and you will read this, man ik you are tired of playing Ganyu, but i think there is another team you can test, it's a melt ganyu with bennet kazuha and nahida, it will make nahida do no dmg as she will have an instructor set, but she will give a lot more buffs this way and it's a team where you can melt consistently both the burst and all of the chargeshots, the rotation goes as follows: start with ganyu burst then bennet q, then kazuha q (make sure that the enemie is aplied with cryo for kazuha's buff, and that your kazuha has pyro on himself from the bennet ring, so that kazuha's burst gets a pyro infusion), after that you go to nahida E for the burning effect, and her Q for all the other buffs (nahida will have instructor and will have thrilling tales equipped), my f2p ganyu with r2 prototype did 193k bloom chargeshot and i have only 170 crit dmg so your r3 amos ganyu will do over 200k for sure! again, luv ya and i hope to see mroe videos like this, i thought ur not gonna make more videos like this showcasing teams and such, and i hope you will be able to make many more of them, untill we will find a game with actual EndGame content

  • @voltz8945
    @voltz8945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always wondered if I could do this when dendro came out, but everytime I reverse melted the dendro would go away. Now this is more like it, Xiangling reverse melt was always very clunky because sometimes your ult would take the reverse melt if you ever ulted with ganyu, this is nice. I hope this mechanic is also resent in some kind on other dendro characters in the future

  • @isaac7272
    @isaac7272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I tested this the moment i pulled nahida. You dont even need xiangling here, just use zhongli. Its hurt like hell if u have c6 ganyu to reverse melt that fast at 100k+ bloom damage because burning doesnt have icd. No need to charge xiangling energy. Also you should build nahida more on energy recharge side so her burst always ready to buff ganyu EM.

  • @BakedKipling
    @BakedKipling ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice team comp for sure, i got Yoimiya and heard about pairing her with Collei last night going to test it out today

  • @nur226
    @nur226 ปีที่แล้ว

    got my first double 5 star pull in one go on nahida.. got her from c0 to c2 instantly, slowly farming up her stuff to get her talents and level up, but gonna be fun to see how strong she is later (at level 40 atm already pretty insane tbh)

  • @crazydave6210
    @crazydave6210 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is better to use a shield like zhongli than xiangling in this team imo. Also for every charged shot to rev melt you need to wait long enough in between each shot to proc Nahida's skill.

  • @GJSwart-my8ww
    @GJSwart-my8ww ปีที่แล้ว

    I myself saw this and did some damage testing. What runs perfectly with this is Bennett and sucrose cause you get that vv shred going and you give everyone 450 bonus em even 570 if you have the sapwood blade R5 so you can run attack sands on ganyu. Also nahida has nice synergy with sucrose as it will bump up her em above 1000 meaning you get the full buff for nahida.

  • @rkwhi2280
    @rkwhi2280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope that set comes out Mtashed. The melt Ayaka set that you said that it would be cool if they add.

  • @MortiferGnome
    @MortiferGnome ปีที่แล้ว

    The first party I created with Nahida was Ganyu reverse melt. Ganyu was doing as much or more than with Kaz C2, and for a longer duration. You can do even higher damage if you also include Kaz, but I prefer having Zhongli to keep interruptions to a minimum.

  • @irub3292
    @irub3292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This. Changes. EVERYTHING.

  • @damselette69
    @damselette69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i would really like that thoma-ayaka team

  • @dylanmcloughlin2187
    @dylanmcloughlin2187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you include electro and Nahida's burst her skill is fast enough to spam charged shots. Would be best with an electro shielder, so you still have shield.

  • @jsuwangsa
    @jsuwangsa ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been running around with Ganyu, Kazuha with 2 character I'm leveling friendship with which rn is Venti and newly acquired Nahida. Ganyu, Kazuha, some pyro applicator and Nahida seems like a pretty solid team lol. Thoma sounds pretty good to fill the pyro applicator with shield included just like you said. Gotta try that out but my thoma is unbuilt lol

  • @shadowkhan422
    @shadowkhan422 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only thing , I dont think you want to use EM on Ganyu with Nahida. She already gets 200-250 EM from Kusanali's passive. You can build mostly crit and attack and still get 300+ em for melts

  • @slumpywumpy4166
    @slumpywumpy4166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly I dont even play Genshin that much anymore, literally just logging in for Welkin, mainly because of Elden Ring, but I still find myself watched Tashed’s videos. Loving the content ma boy

  • @checkmate9099
    @checkmate9099 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah, so I used the same team but instead of Zhongli I used Tankfei so that the 2 pyro characters not only give pyro resonance but also gives Nahida her purification burning more damage.

  • @93djwilliamson
    @93djwilliamson ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad you made this video because I have both Ganyu and Xingling, and I don’t have an electo unit except for cough C6 Razor who I refuse to build

  • @93Albertox
    @93Albertox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've really been enjoying melt ganyu with nahida, and since xiangling is not really necessary I've changed her for tankfei and God do I love this team. Yanfei and Bennett can baterry each other and pryo resonances for even more ATK while ganyu is shielded and doing a lot of melt damage.

  • @bjornnilsson2941
    @bjornnilsson2941 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just messed around with this myself and there are endless combinations that work now that we have nahida. Even Tankfei seems like a viable pyro unit now for that coveted shield. Still needs tons of ER tho

  • @crowylad6987
    @crowylad6987 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not exactly what you were asking for, but I’m running a Off field nahida and raiden shogun with a tonne of em, with Eula main dps, superconduct and the quicken/aggravate proc at the same time causing some nutty damage. Just good for thought.

  • @GordonFan
    @GordonFan ปีที่แล้ว

    You know fair play Mtashed. Like I will be real I was like *rolls and gets nahida* welp I guess I got someone to work if it is Nilou, Nahida, dendro healer, hydro EM person obviously when they release the other two parts for scaling(dendro healer because nahida with dendro application and most hydro healers are HP so you don't want them procing bloom for nilou's cores) but like I didn't even really consider doing like Ganyu, Nahida, Noelle, Xiangling as my team to greatly minimize what I have to roll for and who I have to build as nahida is the only one I haven't built yet.(yes I did come from the blacklist video because I was like "i'm bored why not...*sees this video* wait what are you on" but as I said fair play I half forgot about burning with such a powerful application but I do feel I now have a need to get her 1/9/9 as I don't use her normal attack really)

  • @justremathings
    @justremathings ปีที่แล้ว

    So burning's value isn't necessarily the dmg, but the cracked pyro application. Actually pog since i always wanted to utilize the reaction.

  • @daeaerafgj6468
    @daeaerafgj6468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, Nahida is a godsend to teambuilding. She's compatible in so many new and existing comps while singlehandedly also being able to enable top DPSes as well as old outclassed ones and makes them all shine! Today I tried a hyperbloom team consisting of Ayato/Yae/Nahida/Zhongli, and it friggen SHREDS! (And no, Ayato nor Yae need to change up their usual builds at all, it mainly has disgusting AoE/Single Target damage) I also tried her with a Hypercarry Raiden team, consisting of C3 Raiden/ C6 Sara/ C2 Nahida/ C5 Bennett, and goddamn, I never saw my Raiden hit so hard in my life. I legitimately think she was outdamaging my Eula's burst at that point with just her initial hit alone! Hardest I saw it hit was 470kish, with her swings hitting anywhere from 50k to 80k if a hit Aggravates! Nahida's and Sara's personal damage benefits from the synergies too thanks to Nahida's kit! Pretty much one-cycled Mango Kinky and Matrix bosses!

  • @epe-equestrianpatterneduca6184
    @epe-equestrianpatterneduca6184 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also think you should try Thoma, Nahida, Kaeya, and diona. You would have lots of shields and heals, plus this team is more accessible than ayaka/slower cryo applications (I think)

  • @turothescrub6830
    @turothescrub6830 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoma burgeon teams you should try it personally i use Ayato, Thoma, Nahida and an anemo vv slot like venti or jean its very fun and it works incredibly well

  • @tomekpiatek88
    @tomekpiatek88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You don't need to pomp up EM on Ganyu since Nahida can give You up to 250 EM in her burst and imo most optomal EM for melt is around 400.

  • @theyuun
    @theyuun ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to try this with my Ganyu.

  • @Invective
    @Invective ปีที่แล้ว

    If your Thoma is c6 then you are in for a fun time, just bring out him a favonius lance and some high crit n hp and you have an offensive pyro shielded, I tried it, very fun and I have tighnari bow which I gave to ganyu, had a breeze going through abyss 12

  • @mubrek236
    @mubrek236 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not just Ganyu,we can literally extend the damage and rotations for every reaction based electro pyro cryo and hydro dps we have and will have

  • @davenuada527
    @davenuada527 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, you have to try Hyperbloom Raiden (EM EM EM build) with On-Field Nahida, Xingqiu, and Yelan or Zhongli

  • @This_Origami
    @This_Origami ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thoma in burgeon is really really good

  • @skull2661
    @skull2661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ganyu was already cracked to begin with and now she is super cracked. And all of this is possible cuz of Nahida i am so glad i pulled her :)

  • @elrozy32
    @elrozy32 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes, this dendro reactions with elemental mastery has changed everything~

  • @thinhvcoin
    @thinhvcoin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found a really fun team with Nahida Raiden Kokomi and Kazuha with Nahida on field auto atk

    • @christopheantoine5472
      @christopheantoine5472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm playing this team too. However i give Kokomi some onfield time aswell, to trigger even more seeds ^^

  • @HomikaGaming
    @HomikaGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like nahida + bennet + ganyu is so slept on and forgotten, but you can use sapwood blade on bennet with instructor easy em. Nahida will help proc it. You could go freedom sworn too. Nahida buffs with the em and pyro buff and then bennet's burst. But your getting 26-40% c1 damage buff on top of bennet's attack. Then over 450 em And your melting! A little extra if you have Nahida's bis. But then you have a fill 4th slot. Slap a yanfei shield if you don't have c1, zhongli/ diona. etc. I'm liking Mona despite her not working as well with nahida, it's nice to be able to use for mobs that aren't going to live that long with nahida's tri karma, but can be frozen or immobilized. And then you still can benefit from Bennet. ( lol ) But I'll keep experimenting . Not a fan of anemo it just takes too long from setup.

  • @bihaagnepaul4277
    @bihaagnepaul4277 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:32 Mawing down enemies 😱

  • @bluefox21186
    @bluefox21186 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't tried it yet because I'm finishing Nahida and I don't have a WT fully leveled up. But I've been wondering since I don't have Zhongli, but this comp doesn't require you to be close to enemies: what about Diona C6? do the charged shots inside Diona's burst? usually you wouldn't do it because Diona would steal the melts, but if you cast it on a distance and stand in there, those 200 EM might add up, and the shield is a big help. Kazuha lookd interesting too. But the fact that you can play this at a safe distance since you don't need Xiangling got me wondering.

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds like a Quality of Life improvement for Melt Shots, however you'll be losing on Pyro resonance. Maybe Nahida's dendro damage + burning can make up for it?
    If I have to compare:
    Ganyu - Bennett - Kazuha/Zhongli - Xiangling
    vs
    Ganyu - Bennett - Kazuha/Zongli - Nahida
    I'm not sure which I prefer, but it sounds interesting to try ;)

    • @meyeneetuks4680
      @meyeneetuks4680 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most def. I wanted to test this too. Dont have nahida yet but Im hoping to get her before banner ends😤

  • @idkwhatisthis6718
    @idkwhatisthis6718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey mtashes, you gotta try burgeon diluc and burgeon hu tao with nahida they are pretty insane

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  • @shubham.v4639
    @shubham.v4639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking the same thing with ayaka, maybe after using nahida skill and xiangling burst then ayaka burst we can probably make the enemy burn while ayaka reverse melting every burst hit. Maybe it dosen't work like that i have not tested this comp.

    • @AndreiSorin1994
      @AndreiSorin1994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't work like that . Ayaka can only melt around 6-7 hits out of the full 20, because of her ICD. It doesn't matter how much pyro you apply.
      Melt Ayaka wasn't good before and Nahida won't change that

  • @bamboobelly4052
    @bamboobelly4052 ปีที่แล้ว

    full Archon Aggravate with EM Raiden seems pretty cracked

  • @Solstia
    @Solstia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thoma is great with burgeon teams for sure 👍

  • @smoothies2733
    @smoothies2733 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raiden lv 90 (Dragon's bane + 2 wanderer 2 Gilded 1038 EM (1288 EM with Nahida Q)) with Yelan or Xingqiu any artifacts with Nahida 4 Deepwood and Zhongli any artifacts.
    Zhongli E, Nahida E + Q, Yelan or Xingqiu Q, Raiden E or Q = 3 hyperbloos every 2s 37k each + Whatever damage your Nahida and Hydro users can do.
    Kills Primo Geovishap in 8s (my Nahida still lv 70 with 936 EM but doesn't matter cause it uses Raiden's EM for damage)
    Tested with Kazuha instead of Zhongli also, but Zhongli gave more damage. Sucrose C6 does little bit more damage than Zhongli but her buff is not long enough duration.
    Also tested Raiden with 4 Thundering Fury with 920EM Did way less damage. EM is worth more then the 40% hyperbloom damage you get from Thundering Fury.

  • @samuelplouvier6559
    @samuelplouvier6559 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would've never thought of it since dendro and Cryo are not the first thing that comes to mind when you compare these two elements

  • @mikeandreiavellano9320
    @mikeandreiavellano9320 ปีที่แล้ว

    So effin useful for ayato vape, now I'm very excited to have nahida. But still lacking atmost 7 pull to get her.

  • @Martyn_Wolf
    @Martyn_Wolf ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been testing this out. The pyro doesn't stay on for that long, it appears that it gets overridden when using Ganyu CS ((charge shot))
    My Nahida is LV 90 talents at 6,6,6 (will be increasing them when I get more mats from Scaramouche) her EM is 761.

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  • @hill-2000
    @hill-2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wanna try use Ganyu, Shenhe (ammo buff + cryo res), Nahida and Thoma (for shield and pyro) but he is lvl 1 so idk. might slap on hp build with black tassel if anyone else tried a thoma comp and think its worth

  • @pepperboxpeeper1039
    @pepperboxpeeper1039 ปีที่แล้ว

    "This changes EVERYTHING!!!"

  • @2kool4skool01
    @2kool4skool01 ปีที่แล้ว

    C2 Zong and stringless venti is amazing!

  • @Hxpnoticghost
    @Hxpnoticghost ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank god because ganyu needed a buff

  • @priyanshu.x03
    @priyanshu.x03 ปีที่แล้ว

    nadhia will apply dendro if u trigger any reaction no its not suppose to be just dendro reactions

  • @TheZone630
    @TheZone630 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a team comp with raiden shogun ,nahida,yoimiya and 4th Kokomi or kazuha
    Will kazuha give more element bufff!
    Will overload supercharge reaction keep going or in case of ganyu can yoimiya be the pyro driver after applying raiden shoguns elemental buff along with kokomi or kazuha

  • @supersonicgamerguru
    @supersonicgamerguru ปีที่แล้ว

    Nahida's skill doesn't stipulate that it has to be a dendro reaction to proc the tri karma. It can be literally any reaction, including melt. This is why this setup even works in the first place.

  • @MainDoorFrames
    @MainDoorFrames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me: Hey Where did you put the M's
    Mtash: Oh M stashed here

  • @Januar927
    @Januar927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So basically with nahida E skill we can turn enemies into dendro slimes and burn them for long time

  • @Lynx7725
    @Lynx7725 ปีที่แล้ว

    In this case Ganyu is taking advantage of the Nahida/ Bennett combo, it's the combo that's important. Might be able to take advantage of that with a Hydro DPS for vape comp too.
    Thoma is not good for pyro application - his Skill isn't great at that and his Burst keys off Normal attacks. He's bad at cracking shields, so he won't be great in this role. But, he does bring two things: one, a shield (to protect archers from interrupts) and two, Pyro resonance with Bennett, for more ATK. Add EM from Nahida and that can be quite a potent mix.

  • @chroniceverythingever
    @chroniceverythingever ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm using Ganyu Amber Nahida. Amber to give the pyro, nahida to cause burning and Ganyu to reverse melt, all 3 are ranged characters so I just shoot from far away.

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  • @JT-vk9jq
    @JT-vk9jq ปีที่แล้ว

    problem with Thoma is that with his continuous pyro application, he could be the one triggering melt with his tiny damage so it's harder to ensure the triggering of the reverse melt

    • @JT-vk9jq
      @JT-vk9jq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dino-life I was actually talking about the Thoma Ayaka comp he was asking about

  • @tomcowell2742
    @tomcowell2742 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard mention of a team called scatterbloom, not too sure what it was but think it had something to do with nahida kaeya and a hydro applicator, not sure on the rest

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  • @soumyarkaghosh8028
    @soumyarkaghosh8028 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think ayaka also works if you use kazuha burst with pyro swril and then ayaka burst it reverse melt

  • @voidbg7017
    @voidbg7017 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nahida is very good future investment for your account just like the rest of the archon's she's also really fun to experiment with got her to c2 cus my curse was finally broken (lost 6 50-50 in a row now I won 2 in a row and a diluc and nahida in 20 summons) now I can clear the Raiden boss in 20 seconds

  • @shotify8389
    @shotify8389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I read the title I was so confused

  • @cholop5211
    @cholop5211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally a party comp where i don't have to bring xiangling and go in front of the enemies with my ganyu

  • @arturostm8960
    @arturostm8960 ปีที่แล้ว

    sup my dudes God bless yall haha, I dont use my ganyu that much nowadays... but a friend of mine will be really interested in this combo i think

  • @veckz765
    @veckz765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try: Ganyu E, Kazuha E, Nahida E, Bennet EQ, then full Ganyu Charged shots, i just kept hitting 220k per charged.

  • @rnr894
    @rnr894 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES! Saved 120 wishes got stupid lucky got c1 nahida and got a 3rd 5star but lost the 50/50 i was saving for ganyu but caved because i just started playing and Nahida looked super fun to play( fyi shes like superrr fun and farming is so much better sometimes i pick up stuff i didnt even see). I wanted to main ganyu since day one so seeing this makes me so pumped because i dont care for wishing tbh i always had fun with the team i built so saving is easy imo, cant wait for the next ganyu banner!! F2P god