Definely an interesting handheld device, sometimes my steam deck looks not powerful enough especially if you want to play docked. Wish Valve release Steam OS for all pc soon so the handheld pc market could be more interesting 🙂
@@zzzzzapand the unfortunate thing is, Ally is much more powerful but the ease of use of the steam deck helps it, like Valve can make a specific fix for a game if they need it to.
You're right. They gave me an early review guide that mentioned VRR but I'm looking at their IGG and no VRR is mentioned. I'll pin a comment about that.
Does anyone know if this company is actually going to suport their prodcuts, keeping regular updates? That's my only hesitance with purchasing a product like this vs the steam deck.
I don't expect them to support the same way Valve is supporting. That said, you should theoretically be able to replace OneXConsole with some community based software. I haven't tested that yet. Also of course, drivers and stuff are handled by AMD, Windows, etc
From my personal experience the company stands behind their products and for me the customer service side has always been great even if I was no longer an owner of their product. Anytime I email I always get a quick response, normally a few hours and parts get here in around a weeks time. Updates were always what you’d expect but imagine this is a more personal product when compared to the onexplayer so I’d expect more love to the onexfly.
Still Steam Deck 2 needs a big upgrade to stay relevant as time goes on. Lots of competition in the handheld market which is superb news. Steam Deck 2 better offer OLED, VRR and 120hz on the display front, hall effect joysticks and at least AMD Strix Point APU. 2025 release.
has valve trademarked the touchpad? I dont get why none of the steamdeck "competitors" dont include touchpads. The touchpad helps soooo much to usability of such a device
This is a good question that's a little difficult to explain in a comment but to the best of my understanding a few things have to happen for trackpads to work as expected. Here are the options that are possible: 1 - Valve has to add functionality to Steam (like it did for Steam Deck and Steam Controller) that recognizes the trackpads and adds them as inputs to the controller that Steam has already recognized. In the case of Windows handhelds, the controller is recognized as an Xbox controller which does not have trackpads or gyro so this requires a solution from Valve. Of course, even if this is accomplished, it'll still only work when Steam is open. 2 - You can use Community Software (e.g. Handheld Companion) that takes all the distinct controller components (Xbox controller, bespoke trackpads, bespoke gyro, bespoke paddles) and then makes Windows believe it's a PlayStation controller (e.g. DualShock 4, DualSense, DualSense Edge). Steam already recognizes all of these controllers and can therefore accomodate the extra bits that go along with them. Once again, this requires Steam being open. 3 - The device manufacturer can make software that copies what Handheld Companion does. It can create software that would mask itself as a PlayStation controller. As far as I can tell, they haven't done this for two reasons: it takes them a long time to write software and they don't want to rely on Steam 4 - Which leaves a fourth option. The device manufacturer rolls out their own software that incorporates trackpad, gyro, paddle functionality into their device. ASUS has done this with paddles but hasn't done it with gyro yet (I have no idea why). AYANEO has done this with gyro and will probably do it with trackpads for AYANEO Kun (eventually). As someone who just wants to play games in Steam, I'd much rather an option like 1 or 3 be incorporated. In the meantime, I'll probably try to use Option 2 where possible. Hope that helps!
It’s not the “rawg” it’s the R.O.G. Republic of gamers. It’s so cringe when I hear someone call it the rawg. It’s like people calling Saint Denis in rdr2 as saint dennis. I’m a steam deck owner and still fine it cringe.
One thing holding from buying the Onexfly is the support. I hear a lot of horror stories about China companies support on their handheld gaming device. if they Release a ROG Ally Pro with the same cpu as onexfly and 32GB of RAM then i'll be purchasing that.
You need to hear about support form people with actual first hand experience and no people trying to review bomb lol but seriously I’ve owned their products for years now and the customer service is top notch atleast for me, if I email I always get a response within a few hours and if I need parts I get them in a about a week or so which is fine ,, even with RMA stuff they cover everything.
I’m more for buying to play on long journeys, plane/train trips when almost always next to a power supply. Leaning towards ROG over steam deck right now but cant make my mind up.
My brother bought a onexplayer mini. The main thing people have to know about it is quality and repairability. It is not easily repairable. And his unit had stick drift after just a couple of weeks.
I’m thinking your brother isn’t the type to repair much then, I owned the mini and 1s and both were super easy to repair , no more so than the Ally or steam deck and the support has always been great , honestly the company never gives me any hassle when I mention issues or when I request new parts.. and stick drift is something anyone can fix , it’s not like a world breaking issue or really even a issue at all.
My mistake - they gave me an early review guide that mentioned VRR but I'm looking at their IGG and no VRR is mentioned. I've pinned a comment with a correction.
Price is a major stumbling block for this especially as they have no major company behind it. If it breaks your options are very limited in terms of warranty. But I would also add the biggest issue for me personally and a lot of ROG ally users is battery life. Simply put Windows drains way more battery than Linux, also as good as this is why would you ever want a 64GB SKU? That built in GPU ain't ever gonna touch most of that. Considering the power of this thing anything over 16GB is a waste really. You MAY push it a bit as its using RAM for gaming but with this spec it wont make much of a difference. Its like they just adding more for the sake of it plus the price for anything other than thebasic is a ripoff. 16 more and double the storage for $150 more?? 16gb RAM is probably costing them $30 at the most as they will be buying in bulk and the upgrade from a 512gb NVME to a 1TB is about the same being $30 so your paying them an extra $90 and that's over RRP they will no doubt get cheaper. Its apples horrible tactics these companies are abusing. It made sense for Valve to do it as they were losing money on the 64GB model so the more pricier ones made up for the loss of the cheaper models. These are making a fortune off these which lets be fair don't perform better than the Steam Deck which is half the price.
I think every device has its audience these devices sell so well because clearly people are willing to spend more for a better experience than the steam deck in a smaller package. Hell some people own multiple
The smaller bezels and hence the smaller size makes it look more appealing than I thought it would. It seems to be ticking all the boxes on the spec sheet- hall sensor joysticks, gyro support, more cpu and gpu. Could have done without 1080p and VRR. I wish Steam Deck was like this, somehow still with a touchpad. Wouldn't mind a bit more thickness in z-direction for more battery juice, but then it could heavy. Definitely one of the more interesting handhelds imo, coming from the East.
This is a really intrigueing handheld, but in comparison to the ROG Ally having a 120hz VRR screen with freesync has spoiled me. Id worry about stuttering on games that cant reach a stable 60fps.
But vrr just fixes the screen tearing, the stutter of a low framerate is still there and the visual different of a higher framerate then dropping to a lower one quickly is still noticeable with vrr.
@hffvyfdjgf Both vsync and vrr fix screen tearing, the difference is that, unlike vsync, vrr ensures that the frametimes are evenly paced even when the fps is not locked. It doesn't make the fps any higher, just eliminates the frametime stutter. In practice, this means that where vsync might look like this (each 1 represents a frame appearing on screen): 1 11 1 11 1 , vrr would make it look like this: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, thus, while both still render 7 frames total, with vrr, those 7 frames will be evenly paced, making things look smoother.
The rog ally at least here in the us has one big benefit compared to the competitors. You can just go to best buy and buy it. I want to try the device before buying it.
I have the Steam Deck and Rog Ally no way these systems in china will get anywhere until thier customer service and availability in other countries improves. I am keeping my eye out for the New Legion Go when it gets announced.
Availability I’ll agree with but they already have a huge market and don’t need others. Customer service on the other hand surpasses valve and asus or atleast in my case , I’ve always got a quick response and if I ever needed parts I’d either pay a small fee or nothing at all just depending on what it was .
@@akeemmorrison2589 that’s true,, people just repeat crap they hear or just say stuff to be cool like they know something , but gpd and onenetbook have always been good to me.
@@Bootlickerkicker guess you must be new to the tech world but onenetbook has been around for a hot min and stuff like the onexplayer isn’t anything new for them.
I wished OneXFly wasn't so expensive that's the only thing it wasn't ambitious with, it didn't aim for competitive pricing at all and probably never will. Rog Ally suffers build quality issues and numerous OS bugs and poor battery management and life but is readily available anywhere I look and priced competitively. Legion Go is too hard to find in certain markets and way too big and ugly. Steam Deck was still a bit too big and underpowered but also the most optimized machine of the group but still have to rely on importers to order one. Looks like I'll be waiting for next batch of handheld PC as none of them have yet to meet all my needs. I would have liked ROG Ally the most but then I got really lucky with their high-end laptop experience being relatively trouble free meant that I won't be pushing my luck again with their handheld PC and its shenanigans.
It's a trade off. Keep your hands clean and free of grease and it'll be fine for years. On the other hand, ally and deck won't show any where but feel much rougher. In particular, the Ally feels almost toy like
@@FanTheDeck Gotcha. All I've had is the Deck, so I didn't realize it'd become so standard. Personally not something I care about, but if that's a demand of the market, then it should be on there.
The personalization isn't free, it costs 29.90$. I think the ally would win straight, if it wasn't for Asus' terrible customer support and quality control. The VRR and fingerprint are enough to make it come out on top, the difference in power is t significant enough. Personally, until they fix the SD card issue, the Steam Deck is still on top of the handheld game. Great vid, as usual. Thanks you.
The ally only has 16gb ram max, has a 2230 m.2 meaning you can only get 2tb max which is expensive and i would never put a 1tb sd card in there for fear of bricking it. The Ally is good but it's certainly not a better device.
I honestly think this landscape is going to change when valve releases public builds for the steam deck os, or open source it (?). Otherwise, software wise, seems to me valve is just in another league.
@@ARBESProductions Yes, previous versions Steam OS (basd on Debian) are already open-sourced, but the current version for the Steam Deck is not yet public (Although the Arch Linux base OS is, though, you are right). I guess Valve wants to make sure it runs on most hardware, up until now they were just optimizing it for the Steam Deck, AFAIK. Of course, it is much easier to optimize Steam OS for one specific hardware. You can, however, try Chimera OS, as it is somewhat similar in purpose and philosophy (read-only system with atomic updates, although the Steam Deck really has the system twice to have a previous version to go back to in case of failures, don't think Chimera OS has that) and is also based on Arch Linux and offers the same Gamepad UI as Steam OS (which mostly is the new big-picture-mode of the new Steam-Client with a custom window-manager / compositor called gamescope, I guess).
With the rog ally’s Xg mobile, I’d say I’m pretty happy with my decision with purchasing the ally. Gonna replace my 3,000 dollar gaming pc easily for 1400 bucks cheaper
@@FanTheDeck planning on getting the 3080. Since the 4090 is way too expensive for it’s price, the 3080 with 720 p will rival the 4090 since it’s a lower refresh rate
I watch these videos because I want to see if I am missing anything by being a Steam Deck owner. Are there games that work here that don't on deck kind of things. I don't worry about device size but I do want FULL SIZED analog sticks!
From owning one of each in this mini CPU category, I can tell you aren't missing anything. Don't but into the hype. It breaks down like this do you have time to learn a new OS Linux or Windows? Do you like tinkering instead of playing? Are you a Windows user? I listen to all the chatter from influencers who didn't pay for the product dodging the question the viewer's would like to know. Is it worth my $$$$/ and or time? If their money isn't on the line they won't answer that one for you. However its great that as a consumer you can play access any game on any system. If you have a Deck keep it, you're not missing anything at the moment.
@@kylarstern7441 Thanks! I don't feel left out at all. The Deck performance is kind of amazing, and as long as devs put a little bit of time into optimizing it should be relevant for at least a dew more years.
I wouldn't go as far as to say you're missing anything but here's the full info: - There are games that work in Windows that don't work on SteamOS (e.g. anticheat games like Destiny 2) - There are games that perform much better on devices like these, which have more power. Like The Last of Us Part 1 - For me, those two categories don't really offset the benefits of a Steam Deck (Ease of Use, Support, etc) but that's going to be where your mileage may vary
the screen looks bigger because when you are viewing 16:9 content, you don't have any black bars on top and bottom like the steam deck's, cause it's 16:10.
I'm more interested in the ROG Ally, but honestly it is a difficult decision, since I love my Steam Deck and prefer some of the features it has. I think I'm going to get a ROG Ally though because it charges so quickly, on the road that will be really convenient. The Steam Deck is fantastic though and I will not be getting rid of it for when I'm not on the road.
Why is the title onexfly vs steam deck vs ally and you give no fps numbers at different wattages to compare them. The only 7840u vs deck vs z1 video had been the phawx from months ago. It would be nice to see a comparison considering the driver updates for both the z1 and 7840u.
I tried to explain in the video but mostly just the form factor. I still prefer the Steam Deck but I'm impressed with what OXP was able to accomplish with this form factor. I want to do a separate video that does benchmarking with all 7840U devices that I have.
@@FanTheDeck I just dont understand why this is the only electronics segment that doesnt do real comparisons. Its like everyone is scared to get cut off from these handhelds. Imagine in the pc realm reviewers not posting numbers for the newest GPUs vs other gpus. Or the thermal numbers from different cases. Laptop reviewers constantly give numbers so you can compare. This is the only segment that seams too scared to show results. It sucks because it makes it impossible for consumers to know what to pick. I own a steam deck but would love something more powerful that still is decent at 10watts. Is that the 7840u? No idea because the only comparison test is the one phawx video from 2 months ago. Has the Ally caught up to the 7840u since its 15w performance bump? No idea. And Im not telling you to sacrifice your channel and lose any future handhelds, but you can see why the handheld segment reviews still have major issues.
@@creaturecore13 I guess it is a lot of work to get accurate performance measurements, especially on handheld-devices, as these don't always offer the same resolutions and TDP-settings, etc. Currently there is a shitstorm about testresults and reasonable testing and ethics surrounding LMG due to their need to push out as many videos as they can. I don't think it is necessary to do so many videos, though, as long as the videos are top-notch quality and profoundly researched and results re-checked, e.g. similar to Cryobyte's channel, which does very deep testing, even tweaking and overclocking the Steam Deck to get the best performance. But as I understand it, FanTheDeck's POV is more like the look&feel of those devices and that's okay for me, certainly if he wants to do a deep-dive benchmarking of the 7840U devices at several TDP-settings, that would be great.
@@creaturecore13 - I'll give you a little behind the scenes. I've done benchmarks before and I've never been threatened to lose access to future handhelds. I've done worse - like when I said I don't know why OXP made the Mini Pro lol. The reason I personally don't often do benchmarks is because I feel like The Phawx does them so well that mine would end up being redundant and also because people tend to skip over them. I think you raise some good points tho and I'll def put a comparison together. FWIW Steam Deck still wins at 10W for everything I've tried iirc.
will stick with my deck, the issues i found arent with the deck its with the game optimization, steam has amazing support for the OS and optimizing games to play on it, i dont care how powerful it is, without the proper support you got garbage.
@@NoHandleSelected.Correction - apparently it's not coming in an update. I had bad information - that's my mistake. Only 120Hz is coming later in an update. VRR would have really gone a long way here.
@@NoHandleSelected. No, it isn't unfortunately. I specifically asked this question on their Indiegogo campaign page, and they said there will be no firmware update that will allow support for VRR.
Is this device able to play wireless pcvr games like Halflife Alex and VRChat without any issues and also how much VRAM would the GPU have in this device?
the last thing I would want on my handheld are fingerprint scanner, why would you even need it, if you are so insecure about someone else having to play with a handheld get a pin code or smth, I just feel paranoid about it being hacked , getting personal info stolen, etc. I think, we need less of the unnecessary stuff on a console, and focus on ergonomics, power, screen and battery life, what else do you need.
For me 2280 SSD, several output USBs are a huge plus. Using steam deck as desktop pc, thinking to get rid of my asrock x300, but lack of RAM, storage and expensive 2tb SSD (which is the limit for now) stops me for now.... Definitely interesting device. I also live at the place where if something happens to decks single usb-c - it is not easily replaceable and not able to give for repair...
Two things that I hate about Onexplayer devices and they keep releasing new devices with the same issue. They keep using switch sized analogue sticks, copy ayaneo sticks for god sake! Their onexconsole is always screwed up, buggy as hell, on my onexplayer 2 the minus and plus buttons call up the keyboard! the turbo button calls up the console. same problem on my onexplayer mini pro.
OneXConsole is really half-baked unfortunately. My biggest dislike for this device. I hope they improve it but I really want to try some community software.
It's grossing me TF out how these companies put all that hardware in these devices and SOMEHOW skimp out on important features that are needed. VRR is doing some work and it's been very much helpful in so many games and ways. These devices are great, but they really need to be backed by bigger and much established companies. I'm sure the build quality of this device is great, I had my eyes on it for some time since it has the 120hz screen. Looks like I was right to go with thre Ally.
I know what you mean but to be fair they all specialize in their own area like gpd seems to go for nostalgia/pc hybrids, Aya only makes compact lightweight game consoles, and even the legion go has its own audience. I love the size so i’m looking forward to see how call of duty plays on this versus the ally for long trips.
I feel these reviews are pretty half baked and given by individuals who are tech enthusiasts but not people who actually know what they are talking about or have any first hand experience with the companies or devices.
I think this comment is pretty vague so I'm not sure what you mean by a few things, but I'll try my best to address a few points: "These reviews" it's unclear who you're referring to but the fact that the comment is on this video means I'm included in "these". I have no qualms with that but I do want to point out that there are really comprehensive reviewers out there that you may want to take a look at (DISCLAIMER: two of which are co-hosts on a podcast with me). The Phawx does comprehensive testing including benchmarks, thermal camera observations, battery life testing, etc. Retro Game Corps usually looks at it from the perspective of someone that would daily drive a device and he daily drives the device for at least a week in order to accomplish this. Taki Udon speaks as someone that has some sort of experience on the manufacturing side and can speak about quality of components and whether those components are being used to their fullest potential. "Tech enthusiast" tbh sometimes I don't even consider myself a tech enthusiast. In some ways, I'm a bit of a luddite. I'm a software developer by day but I don't think that aids my hardware reviews in any meaningful way. I try to speak from the perspective of an everyday consumer and I make no qualms about that. Here's a clear example: I do benchmarks but usually only as a sanity check. I use them to ensure that my device is working correctly before I proceed with other testing. If I see something odd in my benchmarks, I have people that I can speak to about their experience (usually other YTers like The Phawx, Retro Game Corps, ETA Prime, CryoByte33, etc). But once I feel comfortable that my results are accurate, I speak to the everyday experience for the everyday user and not necessarily as someone that's going to be making changes to the Power profile or changes in the BIOS to optimize clock speeds. I think people cover that avenue very well already. "[not people that] have any first hand experience with the companies or devices." Again, not sure what's meant by this so I'll just tell you about who I am. I'm someone that's bought 3 handhelds with my own money since 2020: GPD Win Max, Steam Deck, and the ASUS ROG Ally. In the grand scheme of things, I can only give you anecdotal information from my experiences with those 3 purchases. But in my capacity as a TH-camr that covers PC handheld news, I'm actively lurking in PC handheld communities to see other people's testimonials, not to mention people that comment under my videos. To that degree, much of what I know is not actually first hand. If I went by only first hand experience, I would think that the ROG Ally has no problems with the SD card reader because mine has been fine. FWIW, I don't mind your comment or take it as offensive in the slightest. It's possible that you're looking for more technical reviews and to that end, I highly recommend folks like The Phawx and Taki. I also know that the LTT incidents are going to be rightfully driving skepticism in the community. At the end of the day, I'm not a professional reviewer with a writing and/or journalism background. I'm a software developer who enjoys doing gaming-related videos and I believe I'm straightforward about that. Hope that helps; have a great day.
@@FanTheDeck I hear you and I’m not exactly going after your content or anything but it’s getting pretty muddy out there with people claiming to be reviewers and this dishing out misinformation on multiple products or devices and even giving their narrow opinions of how it’s a pointless buy because let’s just say 64gb of ram on a handheld seems useless, which is a foolish thing to say and I could find many use cases for it and if I couldn’t then it would still be interesting to play around with in the bios. Myself Im a few things but I’m mainly a contractor not that you asked or anything but since we are both being clear, my background in tech though is simple. I built my first gaming desktop in 98, go interested in tearing things down and seeing how they worked and then started building for friends , around 2007 I went to electrical engineering and computer operations school and tons of hands on work and tons of mod work and eventually led into simple robotics, which I didn’t find interesting lol. Fast forward, past my schooling and military career, I went into overseas contracting where the job offered me to spend on things I wouldn’t normally, which led me to buying stuff from companies like Huawei ,oppo , onenetbook , eurocom and a few others . Anyways I have first hand experience with most companies , what they are working on , how far the limits can be pushed with these devices and myself I love mess with the hardware and combination of components I can put together to make something do what it was never intended to do. Simple stuff lately , I was the first to add 4tb to the rog ally and document it on Reddit and then others started acting like it was their thing which is fine because I don’t consider it a mod as it fits almost by itself but when I did the copper shim stuff and the work in smokeless bios I kept much of that to myself because it wasn’t something that was right yet and I didn’t need others using it for their own 5min of fame. It’s like the oculink stuff I’m working on, I’ve barely said anything of it until right now and on a post on Facebook . But beyond all that and back to the conversation, I think most TH-camrs , even the ones that go into depth miss the mark of things that really need to be said and at times do poor testing and repeat it in most videos because they know most won’t question and it’s what people want to see. It’s like owning any computing device and running a stock iso of windows or stock drivers for the gpu , or not doing your own tweaks and making the system the best you can and then sharing it with others on how you squeezed what you could put it so you get the best bang for your buck and actually show what is possible, well it’s a disservice to the viewer and it can lead to bad reviews because only the basic testing steps were done and didn’t produce decent results. Or it’s like if there’s an error and not many troubleshooting steps are taken and then reviewers call it quits , it’s pretty disappointing. I’ve done blind flash before and still recovered from what LTT would say is impossible or forced sli in a laptop with dual 2080s without a bridge because I was willing to research and try everything before I call it impossible. Like I said it wasn’t an attack on you but my frustration comes from the many channels that act like they have it all wrapped up and should trust their word is gold and trust me many do and many of their followers won’t question stuff or will go repeat information that they heard while not knowing it if it’s true or not and use it as part of their own tech knowledge for others.
Mostly because of screen size and general form factor. They're very different but I was surprised at how the size compared to the Steam Deck given the improved power, nicer screen, and better battery life. Still though - Steam Deck is my personal preference.
To me the placement of the lower controls looks very uncomfortable... I understand it's hard to avoid if you want to make the device smaller, but for me comfort holding it is more important. Anyway I intend to stick to my deck for now anyway, I don't think the hardware has evolved enough yet to really make a meaningful difference without blasting through your battery... Also I don't want to deal with windows.
This looks nice but I'm good with my Steam Deck. i just started really playing it with the dock and loving it. I have a PS5 as well, so for any AAA games, I'll just play them on there.
You're right. They gave me an early review guide that mentioned VRR but I'm looking at their IGG and no VRR is mentioned. I've pinned a comment with a correction.
@@FanTheDeck fair, but I do however dislike ayaneo warranty I still haven't gotten a response from them for over 3 weeks. Love their design and software, but I think I just got a bad device, anyway keep it bro
I thought the lowest price ($739) isn't bad for what it is but it's still expensive overall. Bang for buck, nothing beats the Deck in my humble opinion.
What’s the game at 4:16 ?? Love that paper Mario style! It looks like demon turf but brighter and more cheerful! Also great review, this one seems very interesting and I wouldn’t have know about it otherwise!
20 seconds in, and I already don't like it. Are they using Times New Roman for their UI? Also, I could never go back to Windows. Like, for anything. The Steam Deck made Linux gaming a lot better, while still not perfect, but I rather just not game than use Windows honestly.
So much chinese in the UI too. As for the keyboard, it's maybe more user friendly, but probably really useless if you wanna type something other than english (or maybe simplified chinese). The Steam Deck (or Window's built in keyboard) support a wide variety of languages (some better than others, especially on Windows....). But I can type in German if I wanted to. I wonder if I can even type a Ä on that thing
yeah the whole OneXConsole feels half baked in its current state, font choice included lol. I'm going to try community based software to see if it's any better.
The next game changer is when someone comes out with a fast swap battery where you can charge one and play with one. I’d pay a lot more for that to be truly wireless
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CORRECTION: VRR is not planned. Only 120Hz is planned and coming.
Bummer
but vrr comes to the steam deck ;-D I'm glad I have the steam deck. These windows handhelds just look really complicated and not easy to use.
crap then. Vrr is a game changer on devices like this
But when connected to a monitor or TV VRR capable, can we get it?
Bowser is coming
Definely an interesting handheld device, sometimes my steam deck looks not powerful enough especially if you want to play docked. Wish Valve release Steam OS for all pc soon so the handheld pc market could be more interesting 🙂
I hope so too!
a handheld pc will always be not very powerful. Also the rog ally has troubles with the newest demanding AAA titles.
@@zzzzzapand the unfortunate thing is, Ally is much more powerful but the ease of use of the steam deck helps it, like Valve can make a specific fix for a game if they need it to.
Multiple other reviewers have said it's not VRR, just 120hz.
Yes, the Onexfly has no VRR
You're right. They gave me an early review guide that mentioned VRR but I'm looking at their IGG and no VRR is mentioned. I'll pin a comment about that.
Great review as always. Their digital keyboard looks beyond sick!
Yeah it's still got lots of Windows-related frustrations but it's much better than I expected.
Was disappointed with no performance comparison shown.Especially with the tall claim that its a LOT BETTER than Z1 extreme
Does anyone know if this company is actually going to suport their prodcuts, keeping regular updates? That's my only hesitance with purchasing a product like this vs the steam deck.
I don't expect them to support the same way Valve is supporting. That said, you should theoretically be able to replace OneXConsole with some community based software. I haven't tested that yet. Also of course, drivers and stuff are handled by AMD, Windows, etc
@@FanTheDeck thanks for your reply, sir! By the way, I just found your channel a few weeks ago and have been loving the content.
@@brianfairchild4665Thank you! Really glad you're enjoying the channel!
From my personal experience the company stands behind their products and for me the customer service side has always been great even if I was no longer an owner of their product. Anytime I email I always get a quick response, normally a few hours and parts get here in around a weeks time. Updates were always what you’d expect but imagine this is a more personal product when compared to the onexplayer so I’d expect more love to the onexfly.
This device looks like how the OLED switch has a smaller bezel for some reason.
Excellent video. I'll be sticking to my Deck until Deck 2 comes out. The Steam Deck is perfect, perfect price, perfect size and perfect OS.
100% Understandable
I absolutely agree 👍
Yup, I ain't making no new big purchases for a while. Steam Deck is good enough for me. Deck 2 is gonna be a big deal when it's announced!
It's only perfect because you never used anything else.
Still Steam Deck 2 needs a big upgrade to stay relevant as time goes on. Lots of competition in the handheld market which is superb news. Steam Deck 2 better offer OLED, VRR and 120hz on the display front, hall effect joysticks and at least AMD Strix Point APU. 2025 release.
has valve trademarked the touchpad? I dont get why none of the steamdeck "competitors" dont include touchpads. The touchpad helps soooo much to usability of such a device
This is a good question that's a little difficult to explain in a comment but to the best of my understanding a few things have to happen for trackpads to work as expected. Here are the options that are possible:
1 - Valve has to add functionality to Steam (like it did for Steam Deck and Steam Controller) that recognizes the trackpads and adds them as inputs to the controller that Steam has already recognized. In the case of Windows handhelds, the controller is recognized as an Xbox controller which does not have trackpads or gyro so this requires a solution from Valve. Of course, even if this is accomplished, it'll still only work when Steam is open.
2 - You can use Community Software (e.g. Handheld Companion) that takes all the distinct controller components (Xbox controller, bespoke trackpads, bespoke gyro, bespoke paddles) and then makes Windows believe it's a PlayStation controller (e.g. DualShock 4, DualSense, DualSense Edge). Steam already recognizes all of these controllers and can therefore accomodate the extra bits that go along with them. Once again, this requires Steam being open.
3 - The device manufacturer can make software that copies what Handheld Companion does. It can create software that would mask itself as a PlayStation controller. As far as I can tell, they haven't done this for two reasons: it takes them a long time to write software and they don't want to rely on Steam
4 - Which leaves a fourth option. The device manufacturer rolls out their own software that incorporates trackpad, gyro, paddle functionality into their device. ASUS has done this with paddles but hasn't done it with gyro yet (I have no idea why). AYANEO has done this with gyro and will probably do it with trackpads for AYANEO Kun (eventually).
As someone who just wants to play games in Steam, I'd much rather an option like 1 or 3 be incorporated. In the meantime, I'll probably try to use Option 2 where possible.
Hope that helps!
It’s not the “rawg” it’s the R.O.G. Republic of gamers. It’s so cringe when I hear someone call it the rawg. It’s like people calling Saint Denis in rdr2 as saint dennis. I’m a steam deck owner and still fine it cringe.
How is this useful?
We call it rawg my friend.R.O.G. or rawg same thing.Its P.U.B.G but its called pub-g aint it ?
Cream cake ? Is that your new channel name 😂
😭😭 Epic rebrand
What is the name of that cartoony 3D platformer you were playing in the video? It looks cool!
It's called Here Comes Niko!
store.steampowered.com/app/925950/Here_Comes_Niko/
@@FanTheDeck Thanks! Seems like it’s kinda short, but that’s OK. I like the look of it, and it’s only $25. Might pick it up for Switch.
One thing holding from buying the Onexfly is the support. I hear a lot of horror stories about China companies support on their handheld gaming device. if they Release a ROG Ally Pro with the same cpu as onexfly and 32GB of RAM then i'll be purchasing that.
You need to hear about support form people with actual first hand experience and no people trying to review bomb lol but seriously I’ve owned their products for years now and the customer service is top notch atleast for me, if I email I always get a response within a few hours and if I need parts I get them in a about a week or so which is fine ,, even with RMA stuff they cover everything.
Same, waiting for a rog ally pro
If it's gonna be that small and portable it needs a better battery life. Honestly all these devices do.
I’m more for buying to play on long journeys, plane/train trips when almost always next to a power supply. Leaning towards ROG over steam deck right now but cant make my mind up.
@@ryanirvine8393same I still cant decide
FWIW, I'm surprised they were able to fit a 48Wh battery in this form factor.
My brother bought a onexplayer mini. The main thing people have to know about it is quality and repairability. It is not easily repairable. And his unit had stick drift after just a couple of weeks.
I’m thinking your brother isn’t the type to repair much then, I owned the mini and 1s and both were super easy to repair , no more so than the Ally or steam deck and the support has always been great , honestly the company never gives me any hassle when I mention issues or when I request new parts.. and stick drift is something anyone can fix , it’s not like a world breaking issue or really even a issue at all.
VRR coming soon? This is the first review I’ve heard that. Other reviews say VRR is not on the OneXFly. Has this changed?
My mistake - they gave me an early review guide that mentioned VRR but I'm looking at their IGG and no VRR is mentioned. I've pinned a comment with a correction.
@@FanTheDeck completely understandable - still a great review. Thank you for making it.
Price is a major stumbling block for this especially as they have no major company behind it. If it breaks your options are very limited in terms of warranty. But I would also add the biggest issue for me personally and a lot of ROG ally users is battery life. Simply put Windows drains way more battery than Linux, also as good as this is why would you ever want a 64GB SKU? That built in GPU ain't ever gonna touch most of that. Considering the power of this thing anything over 16GB is a waste really. You MAY push it a bit as its using RAM for gaming but with this spec it wont make much of a difference. Its like they just adding more for the sake of it plus the price for anything other than thebasic is a ripoff. 16 more and double the storage for $150 more?? 16gb RAM is probably costing them $30 at the most as they will be buying in bulk and the upgrade from a 512gb NVME to a 1TB is about the same being $30 so your paying them an extra $90 and that's over RRP they will no doubt get cheaper. Its apples horrible tactics these companies are abusing. It made sense for Valve to do it as they were losing money on the 64GB model so the more pricier ones made up for the loss of the cheaper models. These are making a fortune off these which lets be fair don't perform better than the Steam Deck which is half the price.
I think every device has its audience these devices sell so well because clearly people are willing to spend more for a better experience than the steam deck in a smaller package. Hell some people own multiple
Well, you forget how the shipping situation with Steam Decks was previously. I waited almost exactly a year for mine...
I didn't forget - I was in the same boat. I don't really see how that's relevant for this video
The smaller bezels and hence the smaller size makes it look more appealing than I thought it would. It seems to be ticking all the boxes on the spec sheet- hall sensor joysticks, gyro support, more cpu and gpu. Could have done without 1080p and VRR. I wish Steam Deck was like this, somehow still with a touchpad. Wouldn't mind a bit more thickness in z-direction for more battery juice, but then it could heavy. Definitely one of the more interesting handhelds imo, coming from the East.
This is a really intrigueing handheld, but in comparison to the ROG Ally having a 120hz VRR screen with freesync has spoiled me. Id worry about stuttering on games that cant reach a stable 60fps.
But vrr just fixes the screen tearing, the stutter of a low framerate is still there and the visual different of a higher framerate then dropping to a lower one quickly is still noticeable with vrr.
@hffvyfdjgf Both vsync and vrr fix screen tearing, the difference is that, unlike vsync, vrr ensures that the frametimes are evenly paced even when the fps is not locked. It doesn't make the fps any higher, just eliminates the frametime stutter. In practice, this means that where vsync might look like this (each 1 represents a frame appearing on screen): 1 11 1 11 1 , vrr would make it look like this: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1, thus, while both still render 7 frames total, with vrr, those 7 frames will be evenly paced, making things look smoother.
nice review, thank you, Cream Cake!
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The rog ally at least here in the us has one big benefit compared to the competitors. You can just go to best buy and buy it. I want to try the device before buying it.
That's what I did too and I return all 3 rog rally back to them.
I have the Steam Deck and Rog Ally no way these systems in china will get anywhere until thier customer service and availability in other countries improves. I am keeping my eye out for the New Legion Go when it gets announced.
Availability I’ll agree with but they already have a huge market and don’t need others. Customer service on the other hand surpasses valve and asus or atleast in my case , I’ve always got a quick response and if I ever needed parts I’d either pay a small fee or nothing at all just depending on what it was .
I've gotten better cutomer service from gpd than American companies lol
@@akeemmorrison2589 that’s true,, people just repeat crap they hear or just say stuff to be cool like they know something , but gpd and onenetbook have always been good to me.
Lol what do you mean they have already been successful even before steam and ROG.
@@Bootlickerkicker guess you must be new to the tech world but onenetbook has been around for a hot min and stuff like the onexplayer isn’t anything new for them.
No VRR = No deal
Apparently it's coming in an update
Awesome review. Thanks!
Could you tell us what game you’re playing at 10:46? Thanks
Baldur's Gate 3. Good chance of being my GOTY
@@FanTheDeck wow looks amazing
I wished OneXFly wasn't so expensive that's the only thing it wasn't ambitious with, it didn't aim for competitive pricing at all and probably never will.
Rog Ally suffers build quality issues and numerous OS bugs and poor battery management and life but is readily available anywhere I look and priced competitively.
Legion Go is too hard to find in certain markets and way too big and ugly.
Steam Deck was still a bit too big and underpowered but also the most optimized machine of the group but still have to rely on importers to order one.
Looks like I'll be waiting for next batch of handheld PC as none of them have yet to meet all my needs.
I would have liked ROG Ally the most but then I got really lucky with their high-end laptop experience being relatively trouble free meant that I won't be pushing my luck again with their handheld PC and its shenanigans.
@ 3:34 that plastic coating is the worse when it comes to electronics.
over time it becomes all sticky and wears off.
It's a trade off. Keep your hands clean and free of grease and it'll be fine for years. On the other hand, ally and deck won't show any where but feel much rougher. In particular, the Ally feels almost toy like
Finger print sensor? I don't remember my Steam Deck having one of those. (I sold it a few months after buying it)
Steam Deck doesn't have one but a lot of handhelds that have come out since the Steam Deck have them. Namely AYANEO 2/2S and the ROG Ally.
@@FanTheDeck Gotcha. All I've had is the Deck, so I didn't realize it'd become so standard. Personally not something I care about, but if that's a demand of the market, then it should be on there.
for me really useless... a code is fine. Better put the money in other parts of the handheld.
The personalization isn't free, it costs 29.90$. I think the ally would win straight, if it wasn't for Asus' terrible customer support and quality control. The VRR and fingerprint are enough to make it come out on top, the difference in power is t significant enough. Personally, until they fix the SD card issue, the Steam Deck is still on top of the handheld game.
Great vid, as usual. Thanks you.
The ally only has 16gb ram max, has a 2230 m.2 meaning you can only get 2tb max which is expensive and i would never put a 1tb sd card in there for fear of bricking it. The Ally is good but it's certainly not a better device.
Also what this tiny device makes up in its tiny power difference it'll lose it back even more to the size bc of heat dissapation
I honestly think this landscape is going to change when valve releases public builds for the steam deck os, or open source it (?). Otherwise, software wise, seems to me valve is just in another league.
Isn't the Steam OS already open source? I think there are some components there that are not, but it's based on Arch Linux, isn't?
@@ARBESProductions Yes, previous versions Steam OS (basd on Debian) are already open-sourced, but the current version for the Steam Deck is not yet public (Although the Arch Linux base OS is, though, you are right). I guess Valve wants to make sure it runs on most hardware, up until now they were just optimizing it for the Steam Deck, AFAIK. Of course, it is much easier to optimize Steam OS for one specific hardware. You can, however, try Chimera OS, as it is somewhat similar in purpose and philosophy (read-only system with atomic updates, although the Steam Deck really has the system twice to have a previous version to go back to in case of failures, don't think Chimera OS has that) and is also based on Arch Linux and offers the same Gamepad UI as Steam OS (which mostly is the new big-picture-mode of the new Steam-Client with a custom window-manager / compositor called gamescope, I guess).
@@sysop39where's your source at? I haven't anything recently about it
With the rog ally’s Xg mobile, I’d say I’m pretty happy with my decision with purchasing the ally. Gonna replace my 3,000 dollar gaming pc easily for 1400 bucks cheaper
Which mobile did you go with? I've heard good things about the XG Mobile setup. Hope you enjoy!
@@FanTheDeck planning on getting the 3080. Since the 4090 is way too expensive for it’s price, the 3080 with 720 p will rival the 4090 since it’s a lower refresh rate
the gpd win 4 is similar in that sense has oculink though so its faster
The price is car price 😂
I watch these videos because I want to see if I am missing anything by being a Steam Deck owner. Are there games that work here that don't on deck kind of things. I don't worry about device size but I do want FULL SIZED analog sticks!
From owning one of each in this mini CPU category, I can tell you aren't missing anything. Don't but into the hype. It breaks down like this do you have time to learn a new OS Linux or Windows? Do you like tinkering instead of playing? Are you a Windows user? I listen to all the chatter from influencers who didn't pay for the product dodging the question the viewer's would like to know. Is it worth my $$$$/ and or time? If their money isn't on the line they won't answer that one for you. However its great that as a consumer you can play access any game on any system. If you have a Deck keep it, you're not missing anything at the moment.
@@kylarstern7441 Thanks! I don't feel left out at all. The Deck performance is kind of amazing, and as long as devs put a little bit of time into optimizing it should be relevant for at least a dew more years.
There were many games that rog ally ran that steam deck didnot.I watched it in reviews forgot where though.
I wouldn't go as far as to say you're missing anything but here's the full info:
- There are games that work in Windows that don't work on SteamOS (e.g. anticheat games like Destiny 2)
- There are games that perform much better on devices like these, which have more power. Like The Last of Us Part 1
- For me, those two categories don't really offset the benefits of a Steam Deck (Ease of Use, Support, etc) but that's going to be where your mileage may vary
the screen looks bigger because when you are viewing 16:9 content, you don't have any black bars on top and bottom like the steam deck's, cause it's 16:10.
U have to edit your video. So many wrong informations... ppl will be confused after watching this video
I'm more interested in the ROG Ally, but honestly it is a difficult decision, since I love my Steam Deck and prefer some of the features it has. I think I'm going to get a ROG Ally though because it charges so quickly, on the road that will be really convenient. The Steam Deck is fantastic though and I will not be getting rid of it for when I'm not on the road.
Dude you can barely hear the fan.
Why is the title onexfly vs steam deck vs ally and you give no fps numbers at different wattages to compare them. The only 7840u vs deck vs z1 video had been the phawx from months ago. It would be nice to see a comparison considering the driver updates for both the z1 and 7840u.
I tried to explain in the video but mostly just the form factor. I still prefer the Steam Deck but I'm impressed with what OXP was able to accomplish with this form factor.
I want to do a separate video that does benchmarking with all 7840U devices that I have.
@@FanTheDeck I just dont understand why this is the only electronics segment that doesnt do real comparisons. Its like everyone is scared to get cut off from these handhelds. Imagine in the pc realm reviewers not posting numbers for the newest GPUs vs other gpus. Or the thermal numbers from different cases. Laptop reviewers constantly give numbers so you can compare. This is the only segment that seams too scared to show results. It sucks because it makes it impossible for consumers to know what to pick. I own a steam deck but would love something more powerful that still is decent at 10watts. Is that the 7840u? No idea because the only comparison test is the one phawx video from 2 months ago. Has the Ally caught up to the 7840u since its 15w performance bump? No idea. And Im not telling you to sacrifice your channel and lose any future handhelds, but you can see why the handheld segment reviews still have major issues.
@@creaturecore13 I guess it is a lot of work to get accurate performance measurements, especially on handheld-devices, as these don't always offer the same resolutions and TDP-settings, etc. Currently there is a shitstorm about testresults and reasonable testing and ethics surrounding LMG due to their need to push out as many videos as they can. I don't think it is necessary to do so many videos, though, as long as the videos are top-notch quality and profoundly researched and results re-checked, e.g. similar to Cryobyte's channel, which does very deep testing, even tweaking and overclocking the Steam Deck to get the best performance. But as I understand it, FanTheDeck's POV is more like the look&feel of those devices and that's okay for me, certainly if he wants to do a deep-dive benchmarking of the 7840U devices at several TDP-settings, that would be great.
@@creaturecore13 - I'll give you a little behind the scenes. I've done benchmarks before and I've never been threatened to lose access to future handhelds. I've done worse - like when I said I don't know why OXP made the Mini Pro lol. The reason I personally don't often do benchmarks is because I feel like The Phawx does them so well that mine would end up being redundant and also because people tend to skip over them. I think you raise some good points tho and I'll def put a comparison together.
FWIW Steam Deck still wins at 10W for everything I've tried iirc.
will stick with my deck, the issues i found arent with the deck its with the game optimization, steam has amazing support for the OS and optimizing games to play on it, i dont care how powerful it is, without the proper support you got garbage.
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I cancelled my preorder when I learned it didn't have VRR.
It's coming in an update
@@NoHandleSelected.Correction - apparently it's not coming in an update. I had bad information - that's my mistake. Only 120Hz is coming later in an update. VRR would have really gone a long way here.
@@NoHandleSelected. No, it isn't unfortunately. I specifically asked this question on their Indiegogo campaign page, and they said there will be no firmware update that will allow support for VRR.
For the high high high price of 1000 you can get the same result of the 700 rog ally. Great deal
Onexfly definitely won now I just want to see if it can play rpcs3 games smoothly or not
Is this device able to play wireless pcvr games like Halflife Alex and VRChat without any issues and also how much VRAM would the GPU have in this device?
the last thing I would want on my handheld are fingerprint scanner, why would you even need it, if you are so insecure about someone else having to play with a handheld get a pin code or smth, I just feel paranoid about it being hacked , getting personal info stolen, etc. I think, we need less of the unnecessary stuff on a console, and focus on ergonomics, power, screen and battery life, what else do you need.
Europe. Ally 799 16ram 512. Onex 819 but 32ram 1terra + faster ram. How mutch important is more ram and faster ram ??? Almost same price🤔🤔🤔🤔
+ PCIe 4x4. So oculink posible and better thane others ???
WOW
For me 2280 SSD, several output USBs are a huge plus. Using steam deck as desktop pc, thinking to get rid of my asrock x300, but lack of RAM, storage and expensive 2tb SSD (which is the limit for now) stops me for now....
Definitely interesting device. I also live at the place where if something happens to decks single usb-c - it is not easily replaceable and not able to give for repair...
Thinner bezels means smaller device = worse ergonomics
Two things that I hate about Onexplayer devices and they keep releasing new devices with the same issue.
They keep using switch sized analogue sticks, copy ayaneo sticks for god sake!
Their onexconsole is always screwed up, buggy as hell, on my onexplayer 2 the minus and plus buttons call up the keyboard! the turbo button calls up the console. same problem on my onexplayer mini pro.
OneXConsole is really half-baked unfortunately. My biggest dislike for this device. I hope they improve it but I really want to try some community software.
I am excited to get mine.
Nice!
It's grossing me TF out how these companies put all that hardware in these devices and SOMEHOW skimp out on important features that are needed.
VRR is doing some work and it's been very much helpful in so many games and ways.
These devices are great, but they really need to be backed by bigger and much established companies.
I'm sure the build quality of this device is great, I had my eyes on it for some time since it has the 120hz screen.
Looks like I was right to go with thre Ally.
I know what you mean but to be fair they all specialize in their own area like gpd seems to go for nostalgia/pc hybrids, Aya only makes compact lightweight game consoles, and even the legion go has its own audience. I love the size so i’m looking forward to see how call of duty plays on this versus the ally for long trips.
can i buy without the fuckung rgb?
I feel these reviews are pretty half baked and given by individuals who are tech enthusiasts but not people who actually know what they are talking about or have any first hand experience with the companies or devices.
I think this comment is pretty vague so I'm not sure what you mean by a few things, but I'll try my best to address a few points:
"These reviews"
it's unclear who you're referring to but the fact that the comment is on this video means I'm included in "these". I have no qualms with that but I do want to point out that there are really comprehensive reviewers out there that you may want to take a look at (DISCLAIMER: two of which are co-hosts on a podcast with me). The Phawx does comprehensive testing including benchmarks, thermal camera observations, battery life testing, etc. Retro Game Corps usually looks at it from the perspective of someone that would daily drive a device and he daily drives the device for at least a week in order to accomplish this. Taki Udon speaks as someone that has some sort of experience on the manufacturing side and can speak about quality of components and whether those components are being used to their fullest potential.
"Tech enthusiast"
tbh sometimes I don't even consider myself a tech enthusiast. In some ways, I'm a bit of a luddite. I'm a software developer by day but I don't think that aids my hardware reviews in any meaningful way. I try to speak from the perspective of an everyday consumer and I make no qualms about that. Here's a clear example: I do benchmarks but usually only as a sanity check. I use them to ensure that my device is working correctly before I proceed with other testing. If I see something odd in my benchmarks, I have people that I can speak to about their experience (usually other YTers like The Phawx, Retro Game Corps, ETA Prime, CryoByte33, etc). But once I feel comfortable that my results are accurate, I speak to the everyday experience for the everyday user and not necessarily as someone that's going to be making changes to the Power profile or changes in the BIOS to optimize clock speeds. I think people cover that avenue very well already.
"[not people that] have any first hand experience with the companies or devices."
Again, not sure what's meant by this so I'll just tell you about who I am. I'm someone that's bought 3 handhelds with my own money since 2020: GPD Win Max, Steam Deck, and the ASUS ROG Ally. In the grand scheme of things, I can only give you anecdotal information from my experiences with those 3 purchases. But in my capacity as a TH-camr that covers PC handheld news, I'm actively lurking in PC handheld communities to see other people's testimonials, not to mention people that comment under my videos. To that degree, much of what I know is not actually first hand. If I went by only first hand experience, I would think that the ROG Ally has no problems with the SD card reader because mine has been fine.
FWIW, I don't mind your comment or take it as offensive in the slightest. It's possible that you're looking for more technical reviews and to that end, I highly recommend folks like The Phawx and Taki. I also know that the LTT incidents are going to be rightfully driving skepticism in the community. At the end of the day, I'm not a professional reviewer with a writing and/or journalism background. I'm a software developer who enjoys doing gaming-related videos and I believe I'm straightforward about that.
Hope that helps; have a great day.
@@FanTheDeck I hear you and I’m not exactly going after your content or anything but it’s getting pretty muddy out there with people claiming to be reviewers and this dishing out misinformation on multiple products or devices and even giving their narrow opinions of how it’s a pointless buy because let’s just say 64gb of ram on a handheld seems useless, which is a foolish thing to say and I could find many use cases for it and if I couldn’t then it would still be interesting to play around with in the bios.
Myself Im a few things but I’m mainly a contractor not that you asked or anything but since we are both being clear, my background in tech though is simple. I built my first gaming desktop in 98, go interested in tearing things down and seeing how they worked and then started building for friends , around 2007 I went to electrical engineering and computer operations school and tons of hands on work and tons of mod work and eventually led into simple robotics, which I didn’t find interesting lol. Fast forward, past my schooling and military career, I went into overseas contracting where the job offered me to spend on things I wouldn’t normally, which led me to buying stuff from companies like Huawei ,oppo , onenetbook , eurocom and a few others . Anyways I have first hand experience with most companies , what they are working on , how far the limits can be pushed with these devices and myself I love mess with the hardware and combination of components I can put together to make something do what it was never intended to do. Simple stuff lately , I was the first to add 4tb to the rog ally and document it on Reddit and then others started acting like it was their thing which is fine because I don’t consider it a mod as it fits almost by itself but when I did the copper shim stuff and the work in smokeless bios I kept much of that to myself because it wasn’t something that was right yet and I didn’t need others using it for their own 5min of fame.
It’s like the oculink stuff I’m working on, I’ve barely said anything of it until right now and on a post on Facebook . But beyond all that and back to the conversation, I think most TH-camrs , even the ones that go into depth miss the mark of things that really need to be said and at times do poor testing and repeat it in most videos because they know most won’t question and it’s what people want to see.
It’s like owning any computing device and running a stock iso of windows or stock drivers for the gpu , or not doing your own tweaks and making the system the best you can and then sharing it with others on how you squeezed what you could put it so you get the best bang for your buck and actually show what is possible, well it’s a disservice to the viewer and it can lead to bad reviews because only the basic testing steps were done and didn’t produce decent results. Or it’s like if there’s an error and not many troubleshooting steps are taken and then reviewers call it quits , it’s pretty disappointing. I’ve done blind flash before and still recovered from what LTT would say is impossible or forced sli in a laptop with dual 2080s without a bridge because I was willing to research and try everything before I call it impossible.
Like I said it wasn’t an attack on you but my frustration comes from the many channels that act like they have it all wrapped up and should trust their word is gold and trust me many do and many of their followers won’t question stuff or will go repeat information that they heard while not knowing it if it’s true or not and use it as part of their own tech knowledge for others.
IO'S... 2×USB-C AND 1× UBS-A....🤓🧐
Onexfly is the best much cheaper that rog ally smaller and more powerful.....but why steam deck is here. It's definitely not the same division
Mostly because of screen size and general form factor. They're very different but I was surprised at how the size compared to the Steam Deck given the improved power, nicer screen, and better battery life. Still though - Steam Deck is my personal preference.
Cheaper than rog ally? Even its lowest variant is more expensive than the ally?
@@MrMilkyCoco isnt rog ally like 800$...
To me the placement of the lower controls looks very uncomfortable... I understand it's hard to avoid if you want to make the device smaller, but for me comfort holding it is more important.
Anyway I intend to stick to my deck for now anyway, I don't think the hardware has evolved enough yet to really make a meaningful difference without blasting through your battery... Also I don't want to deal with windows.
That seems fair to me.
This looks nice but I'm good with my Steam Deck. i just started really playing it with the dock and loving it. I have a PS5 as well, so for any AAA games, I'll just play them on there.
That makes perfect sense. Steam Deck is still my main so far tbh.
How did the retail version workout?
Great review, btw what s the name of the game at 3:24, it looks awesome. Please someone tell me
The Ninja Saviors: Return of the Warriors store.steampowered.com/app/2288070/The_Ninja_Saviors_Return_of_the_Warriors/
What platform game is being played? Great review.
Here Comes Niko and Demon Turf Neon Splash. Thanks!
great review. btw whats the last game name you showed in the video? looks interesting
Demon Turf: Neon Splash store.steampowered.com/app/1747890/Demon_Turf_Neon_Splash/
What's the game at 7:15?
There is no vrr in the final product my guy
You're right. They gave me an early review guide that mentioned VRR but I'm looking at their IGG and no VRR is mentioned. I've pinned a comment with a correction.
very cool
wait this screen support VRR ?
It doesn't. It was a mistake.
OneXplayer devices are solid more so than ayaneo
I feel like AYANEO has done more in terms of Software and Design up until this point but I like both tbh.
@@FanTheDeck fair, but I do however dislike ayaneo warranty I still haven't gotten a response from them for over 3 weeks. Love their design and software, but I think I just got a bad device, anyway keep it bro
What is the game at 4:35?
Here Comes Niko: store.steampowered.com/app/925950/Here_Comes_Niko/
What game is that at 4:10 ?
Here Comes Niko: store.steampowered.com/app/925950/Here_Comes_Niko/
Price is crazy
I thought the lowest price ($739) isn't bad for what it is but it's still expensive overall. Bang for buck, nothing beats the Deck in my humble opinion.
I don’t know what it is but I enjoy seeing the login in screen on my devices so fingerprint sensor doesn’t really bother me
Yeah that's fair
@@FanTheDeck yeah but am I just being weird lol
You're not weird I like that too
@@Eevolved32 Nah not at all! It's a nice screen lol.
What game is that in minute 4:10?
Here Comes Niko: store.steampowered.com/app/925950/Here_Comes_Niko/
thank youu @@FanTheDeck
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
What's the game at 3:12?
The Ninja Saviors: Return of the Warriors
store.steampowered.com/app/2288070/The_Ninja_Saviors_Return_of_the_Warriors/
@@FanTheDeck Thank you!
What’s the game at 4:16 ??
Love that paper Mario style! It looks like demon turf but brighter and more cheerful!
Also great review, this one seems very interesting and I wouldn’t have know about it otherwise!
It's called Here Comes Niko! store.steampowered.com/app/925950/Here_Comes_Niko/
@@FanTheDeck thank you!!
20 seconds in, and I already don't like it. Are they using Times New Roman for their UI?
Also, I could never go back to Windows. Like, for anything. The Steam Deck made Linux gaming a lot better, while still not perfect, but I rather just not game than use Windows honestly.
So much chinese in the UI too. As for the keyboard, it's maybe more user friendly, but probably really useless if you wanna type something other than english (or maybe simplified chinese). The Steam Deck (or Window's built in keyboard) support a wide variety of languages (some better than others, especially on Windows....). But I can type in German if I wanted to. I wonder if I can even type a Ä on that thing
yeah the whole OneXConsole feels half baked in its current state, font choice included lol. I'm going to try community based software to see if it's any better.
The next game changer is when someone comes out with a fast swap battery where you can charge one and play with one. I’d pay a lot more for that to be truly wireless
I can't wait for this tbh
Bet this dude can't wait to wrap it in a Switch theme and emulate all his Nintendo Library. Creamcake