How much "skills" do today's NBA players actually have? They're allowed to walk, travel and palm/carry the ball more than ever when those rules were way more enforced in the 80s, 90s and early 2000's. The players back then actually had to follow the rules for the most part. The NBA has dumbed the game down for "entertainment" purposes and got most of the fanbase to accept it and even think it's "evolved" lol. It's pathetic.
Thank you, the game has been watered down and the rules have been changed for the sake of entertainment but all it has done is ruin the competitive aspect. Being able to take 4 steps on layups and euros and palm the ball every dribble doesn’t make you more skilled. I don’t get how people don’t understand this. Ratings are at an all time low since the 70s and people think that this is the best basketball we’ve ever seen.
@MiddleChildFPS Euro step shouldn't be a travel. Being able to make 2 steps in the straight line is legal, but changing direction when you do them makes it illegal? That makes no sense.
And somebody needs to tell Ant Edwards to stop travelling and taking extra pivot steps the refs getting too loose allowing traveling. This is coming from a guy who recognizes him as MJ 2.0
I like "It's hard to win an argument against a smart person but it's impossible to win an argument against an idiot" That's been credited to Bill Murray.
Absolutely! His ego/pride is talking too much. I'm 44 & we were never raised to disrespect past professional athletes. If Michael Jordan downgraded George Garvin (ice-man),Elgin Baylor,Jerry West,Kareem,Dr. J ; etc he would lose respect. That's why I liked Jordan growing up because he respected past athletes,unlike today. These kids have no idea wtf they are talking about. I mean,Pistol Pete Maravich was a trailblazer for the NBA. There's highlights of Pistol Pete Maravich that I have yet to see any current NBA players make. That's the difference between our generation & these babies. We were raised to RESPECT not disrespect the past.
See . Kids this days, are just plain disrespectful to the game and ex players! Back then they let their skills speak for them! Now they speak more than play! At the end I think 💬 you play whoever is in front of you. And that's what MJ did! You are definitely right 👍🏽💯
@@AWGEplaza you don't have to be an oldhead to see that what Ant said was disrespectful. You can say that players today are good without bringing down the past. What are you, 12?
Just look at Kobe Bryant for example and how he respected players from past eras and even learned their moves. All the more reason why people love and respect the Black Mamba.
@@cherimoneeboone7127 bro stfu . You’re a part of the problem . You can’t prop up lebron without disrespecting and discrediting mj and other all time greats and their eras . So Lebrons body of work isn’t obviously enough to make a case . Lebrons a fraud and out of the picture . Even his media companies spreading these narratives ain’t enough to put him at the top.
Ant knows nothing, just like many of these excuses for fans running around the place. It's like a daycare center now trying to corale all these pups....sad 🤦🏾 the cupcake with extra frosting era is upon us
@@cherimoneeboone7127 “I’m grown!” says every black guy before they do some childish shit, yelling and fighting. Ant has never had a job, been laid off, wife, kids, even changed a tire. Raised on TikTok and WAP😂
I guess this is one of the reasons I hate the current players. They say players in the 90s had no skill when they did. I love to tear down the 2020s because it's the softest era in NBA history full of cupcakes.
@@hoebertrabeck1621 lebron isn't even skilled 90% of his career was freight training his way to the cup. Thats cool i respect it just like giannis but don't claim you're "skilled" cuz ur not LOL
@@alexnather7614exactly. If Lebron was so "skilled", he'd have no problem beating any defender in a 1v1 scenario. Yet the "Lebron system" is literally setting screens until Lebron finds the weakest the defender to attack.
How can Edwards say Michael Jordan was the only skilled player in his era but, in the same breath say "I didn’t watch it back in the day, so I can’t speak on it". Let's make Shut Up and Dribble great again.
I started watching the NBA in 1998 and the think Bird is the best shooter to me (although Curry gets the official award) and Hakeem has the best post moves. Shaq had nice footwork and raw power. Dwight Howard? Was only a lob-dunk threat. Now Jokic? Post moves are incredible. ADavis is pretty nice as well but whatever Jokic does is beastly. Great players in any era will be great. The only difference? The speed of today is faster bc someone in 1980s ain’t gonna “bump”the offensive player.
Nah that shit was trash. 80’s had no skill, very boring to watch. Unathletic & terrible bbiq. 80’s & 90’s are the most overrated era’s of basketball 100%
It was the pinnacle of basketball. The fact that this generation had to acknowledge flopping and load management is laughable. They don’t have the mental fortitude and grit
Fanboys can’t prop Lebron up as the goat without having to discredit and disrespect Jordan and his era . Lebrons body of work alone , is not enough . If your in year 21 trying to convince the masses your the best ever now … your not the goat . It’s always some kind of made up accolade or award . Championships is the most important achievement and accomplishment in the sport of basketball. Lebron controls the media and the narratives , and has found a way to convince nba fans he’s the second best ever . Truth is though , a lot of credible fans and veterans don’t even have Lebron in their top 5 and top 10 lists .
@@cherimoneeboone7127 antman regurgitated what lebron and his media companies are spewing . False narratives , it has everything to do with that fraud . He ain’t in my top 10 either .
@@cherimoneeboone7127 it has everything to do with lebron . His klutch sports media companies are spewing bs false propaganda and narratives about Michael Jordan and his era . And ant regurgitated it right after playing alongside Lebron . Lebrons a fraud .
This is the fatherless generation. These guys nowadays didn't grow up with their father educating them on the history of the game and watching the past greats. I'm convinced that's the core issue and why they're so disrespectful of previous generations.
I agree with you, that is one part of the problem, but add in the crack era, hence kid's could not hang out at neighborhood parks, due to violence, but have Reagan era policies when the fed, state, and local agencies stop spending money, boy's and girl's club , closing lack of investment etc , plus you got to add the AAUzination of ballgame along with the internet growth hence the so called mixtapes. Personally I think rise of portable bball goals help destroy game as well... U can play alone, guys don't team up and go play against others as much I or you I was born 1970 so you might feel me, and one more tidbit families and kid's nowadays move from location to location.... I been to long. My point being is just not the men's fault, all share this burden not just Men, or fatherless home's
societal agenda to try and erase history as well. many young kids think anything from the past is "outdated" and "is no longer relevant" imo the NBA going so hard at it's past players is one of their main ways of getting people to reject the past. i bet many of these players get a check whenever they diss past eras.
@@dariuszcalkowski6208You are absolutely right . If all those games were presented in the digital clarity of today they would realize that these dudes were not trash.
The fact that Kobe Bryant actually respected the past players and learned their moves says even more about the Mamba Mentality. ANT man will never be like Kobe with that mindset of disrespecting the legends or players that played before him. Rest in peace Kobe Bryant 💜💛
Bro maybe cause that’s what Kobe grew up in the 90s and that’s why he respects. While he probably knows that this era is way more skilled. Ant didn’t grow up in the 90s he grew in the 2000s and 2010s
Bro maybe cause that’s what Kobe grew up in the 90s and that’s why he respects. While he probably knows that this era is way more skilled. Ant didn’t grow up in the 90s he grew in the 2000s and 2010s That’s why Kobe is gonna be biased towards that era.
No they weren't (at least not Jordan). He was constantly complaining to Stern about the rules until they changed it the way that made him dominate. He was the true DIVA (he still is).
YES! You've nailed the FACTS by mentioning Penny Hardaway, Hakeem Olajuwon and Grant Hill. It's Michael Jordan's phenomenal performances,that took out the other greatly gifted players.The 1990's were not filled with unskilled players,but had the real #GOAT in it, *which ultimately* made the others look a bit ordinary.
I disagree. If you watched at the time there were players who looked great until they played Michael Jordan. Barkley even looked great vs MJ in the finals but it gets forgotten since they lost
@@jasongibbs3713Because MJ outshined Barkley averaging 41 ppg. MJ was never outshined in a series. Guys like Wilt, LeBron were outshined sometimes in a series
@@jasongibbs3713 Barkley never played vs Jordan. U mean 1 Barkley vs Pippen and Jordan. I disagree jordan looked great in era where no one use 2 hands to dribble. Till Iverson came and show Jordan 40 ppg and crossover then MJ retired
LeBronze fans will also try to make you believe that those other amazing players you mentioned "were average, couldn't shoot and jump". It's really funny.
Yes MJ was head and shoulders better than anyone during the 90's- that is the whole point. MJ was the most athletic guard by a country mile- only Clyde could even hold a candle & he never even made an All Defense team. MJ was routinely being guarded by SMALL guards like GP, Dumars, Mookie Blaylock- 1 on 1. An era characterized by glorified 1 on 1 ball (because of illegal defense rules) in a league with no parity & even less talent. I mean just look at the level of foreign talent in the 90's compared to today! It isn't even remotely close. Nostalgia & bias will never make the 90's have more talent than now. Jordan having to play against competition that was equally as athletic & skilled would have snuffed out any GOAT debate real quick.
@@Reaper13-hi3yo Ha, MJ was in a different class of player, the players of the 90's can at least dribble the ball without carrying and traveling from half court. Talent today? Pft.🤣
@@legrandelysee98 nope he had wide open post up area on ISO. U saw Pistons 1 team try to play little harder NBA Had 20 then 29 teams in his era and u only saw 1 team. LOL dude he played vs 5'2 Bogues even blind can score 150 pts on 5'2 dwarf
@@PIP...33 No, not even LeBron would have made 150 points on Mugsy Bogues and you know it 🤡 it's clear to me you're just a hater, the bad boys to actually slow down MJ, they had to punch on a daily basis Jordan, and despite the punishment received, he still gave 20+ points. LeBron was fckig outscored by JJ Barea and they weren't even implementing bad boys basketball on him. Even in his worst series, MJ was never outshined. LeBron has a couple of series where he wasn't the best
Mjs quick first step and ability to change direction, coupled with being able to run with the ball and not get calls would quite literally be ungaurdable
@@honestman3918 well you clearly never watched games as there is over whelming evidence that debunks that moronic narrative. Thanks for proving your a clown
@@d.columbia9603he was already unguardable when playing by the rules. I can only imagine... but that would be wack and watered down. Just like the NBA today
AntMan talking all that shit after getting destroyed by Dallas with only two players who can play any offense while he was on a stacked team. What a clown 😂😂😂😂
@@MiddleChildFPS thank you sir, because I too believe that team is stacked. But of course you have these goofs trying to convince you otherwise if Conley KAT and Gobert didn't average 30+ points each in the playoffs 🤦🏾
Basketball discourse on social media is so tiresome at this point. Honestly making me lose my love for the game. Too much ignorant takes becoming the narratives people who don't know any better run with and start believing.
Same bro…. know one discusses the game of basketball. It’s just narratives, legacies, this era was trash, this player is overrated. Just nonsense slop arguments about people’s opinions who have never hooped before. They just wanna dickride their fav player or team. It has killed my love slightly. Clear example of what I mean in the reply below , to much brain rot and tictok , logic doesn’t even make sense to them anymore⬇️ 👇
You can blame lebron and his cult / LeMedia for all this toxicness in the league. They are the ones who started disrespecting all time great and eras. I’ve lost all love for the game because of that narcissist
@user-lt9bk8lk9d lmaoooo !!! Imagine being a god at basketball and you can’t master freethrows, one of the most basic fundamentals of the game 😂😂😂 the way you cultist allowed the media to brainwash ya is amazing
Current players and new fans should know that 15-20 years from now people will show clips of players like Russel Westbrock making some stupid plays and talk about how that era sucked.
Bricking shots off the side of the backboard, missing point blank layups 😂😂 yet he won a mvp and averaged a triple double multiple seasons....and some kid is going to ask how did he accomplish all of that with a flawed skillset and that kid is going to say to himself...the 2010s and 20s must've sucked
@@loulou7194That "Serbian farmer" has established himself as one of the greatest centers in the history of the game. He is also one of the greatest offensive forces in the history of the game. He has two MVP awards, a championship, multiple amazing performances, and has shown to be one of the best human beings in the NBA. Show some respect.
@@urbaindelva7869 I know all that, it was just sarcasm; it's ironic that the current "athletic" era is dominated by a very smart and skilled but unathletic dude!
I was watching the 92 NBA Finals a few months ago and they called traveling on Jordan in the NBA Finals. The game is completely different now and athletes get away with alot today. Anthony Edward's take on the 90's NBA just cements the fact that he is not a student of the game.
At this point I'm questioning if these young players think they're more skilled because travels and carries aren't called against them and the guys back in the day couldn't do the same without being penalized 🤔💀
Facts they ignore the fact that they change all the rules to make it easier to score. That's why we have guys that are average that look like STARs an incredible inflated stats
@@andrewcook1246 the rules changed in the late 90s in the early 2000s but in the last 10 years 15 years, it has gotten very bad to the point where sometimes players forget that they have to bounce ball😂😂
He followed KD like a puppy and KD is a Jordan fan. If he said it was MJ would you be here blaming KD? Or were you looking for an excuse to shit on Bron?
Exactly. LeBroad started the disrespect of the MJ era. So when LBJ came in the league 20 years ago he was playing against bums? Like why haven’t the vets checked this 🤡 by now?
@@cherimoneeboone7127he never did mj was literally his favorite player oldheads just say shit without any evidence and are conspiracy theorists lmaoo
Magic and Larry were so much better than Anthony Edwards will ever be, that its comical to think he thinks hes better than them. Dude is a clown and got smoked by Luka, what does he think hes going to do to Larry.
@@jaridatkinson4907 these young dudes don't understand how physical basketball was in them days. Fouls that would get a player in today's game suspended multiple games were damn near a common foul in the 80s and early 90s. The amount of points someone like Larry, Magic, or Jordan would score in today's NBA rules is insane. They forget how after Jordan retired the NBA was a dying game, and to fix that they started bending the rules in favor of the offense to run the score up.
@@bigred9991 Just watch a defense setup from the 80's and 90's. Everything was played within the 3 point line. Now we have 3 players just sitting outside the 3 point line waiting for someone to pass them the ball. No one is learning how to play with their back to the hoop which takes more skill with foot work then catching and shooting into a basket you can already see. Everyone of them had to learn how to make their own basket. Their are entirely different skill-set players today have to have. If were a big man learn how to shoot past 15 feet was not needed back then. Now everyone has to have a 3 point shot. Back in my day shooting a long range shot was seen as being weak because it means you could not handle the defense. Now it's everyone has the have that in their bag. Take away the 3 point line these players today would be laugh off the court. and vis versa. It is 2 different games they are playing.
For people that think players are that much more skilled now : Footwork SUCKS. We went from watching players at the GUARD position that could work their way into the paint with footwork, to this horrible nonsense today of front court players falling over their own feet.
Disrespect is at an ALL TIME HIGH! It's ridiculous🤦🏿♂️ Jordan has somehow become overrated & his peers didn't know how to play basketball😅 All in an attempt to prop up today's players who have the new NBA rules in their favor by not calling ball handling violations & taking away defense which gives the offensive player even more of an advantage they already have🙄 My favorite player right now is Ja & I'm very aware of what he's able to get away with & one of the best in what the game ALLOWS today but never would I say he's better than past players because of that. It's just not true! I'm 34 & I still love this game even tho it's taking a dive but I completely separate what's now vs 90s on back because the rule changes & technology change the way the game is played to where lots of players today "look" great but tough times, clutch situations & actual defense expose a lot of them💯🏀
like how jordan would dominate this current era? or how jordan played in a much physical era? lol more of jordan's narratives are exposed, he got helped by the refs tim donaghy admitted this and he's a former ref, handchecking was also illegal in the 80s 90s we still got the newspaper surrounding the changes, the sports analysts never even brought up not only the lies of handchecking but also the shortened 3pt line in the 90s. manufactured goat getting exposed more n more
Other skilled players beyond the ones you highlighted to name a few: Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bean, Shaq, Barkeley, Reggie Miller, Alan Houston, Clyde, Barkeley, Jesus Shuttlesworth, Baron Davis, Air Canada, Starbury, Kevin Garnett, Pip, Payton, Kemp, Dirk, White Chocolate, The Fab 5, Nick Van Exel, and many more. What's crazy to me with regard to the 90s hatred is, it's also mirrored in Hip Hop. There must be something in the water. A people who don't know their history, have an understanding of it, and appreciate it, are a people dislocated in time.
except the trend started because old generation STARTED their argument and young people STARTED looking at the history and turns out their era is exaggerated with so many flaws
@@donaldbiden636well it’s not if yoj watched them and watch them now. They played better fundamental basketball than today. The amount of traveling, double dribbling makes it unbearable to watch.
Dražen Petrović would drop 40 on Edwards' head, he was better than Edwards and Booker are today. That said, I am pretty sure Edwards just says things for attention, he doesn't really believe it.
@@donaldbiden636 Dražen Petrović is better than everyone today except for Jokić, Curry, Giannis and maybe Luka (I am not sure about Luka). Put prime Dražen in today's game and even without him carrying, traveling, double dribbling and offensive fouling (which is what players today do all over the place nowadays) he is still better than almost any player today. Dražen Petrović is not the GOAT and he is not manufactured, quite the opposite, he was not even given a chance in his first NBA season, only after he went to New Jersey he was given a chance to play and even then they didn't allow him to shoot many threes (which is what he did in Europe - shoot 2-3 times more threes than in the NBA), despite shooting 43% from 3 in his career and they didn't invite him to the 1992 and 1993 all star games even though he was better than a couple of all star guards. And he wasn't invited to the all star game because the NBA back then did not want foreigners, let alone Eastern European commies in their all star game. Then Petro died in a car accident at only 27yo, just before what was expected to be his best season thus far.
@@student99bg everyone in today's league is better than drazen he a g league bench level today. you saying he wasnt allowed to shoot 3s when the old era nba barely anyone shoot 3s to the point the nba had to shorten the 3pt line. back then basketball wasnt as popular worldwide, which means competition was even worse. only in basketball do we have people denying evolution of sports
I understand that older generation of fans and players can be overly critical of how the game is played and lack of physicality at times but it’s rare when I see those same fans and players try to downplay and discredit modern basketball maybe it occurs often I just don’t see it as often as I see modern players and fans constantly tryna disrespect and discredit previous eras of basketball it’s pure ignorance at this point
because older people know the game is changing. if you put AI up against cousy with 60s rules... i take cousy all day. AI would be a traveling machine. and it got even worse, when time passed by.
Modern basketball is basically just 2k. Iso iso iso drive to the basket then kick it out for the open 3. The same reason why players like Carmelo Anthony refused to run the triangle when Phil was with the Knicks. They lack the skill and IQ to run effective plays.
The sad thing is, the only reason these players are scoring as well as they are is because the rules allow them to. They see no correlation that 2016 scoring exploded because Adam silver started letting them carry, travel, centers vanished from the game and everyone started jacking the ball. Surprisingly I believe comparing 21 3pt % to a year in the 90s, it was 2% better than the 90s 3pt%. It's just jacking more shots. It's not better, or slightly better if you want to say that. Guys can play because they're not getting bullied on the ball. It's so free and wide open, it's like practice shots in game. Too easy compared to the past.
My man, it started off with newer gens. Believe us when we say that before these new gens FANS didnt trash the older era's, no we were intrigued by the clips and storied told by our fathers and grandfathers, but even PLAYERS consistently shown respect for how great these older gens were. Now imagine multiple generations of people seeing the newest ones act like they were amateurs and obviously we're going to point out how these era's players severely benefit from rule changes offensively and medical advancements, bc when we say that WE KNOW because we WACTCHED it change over the era's and actually KNOW all the rule changes that happened. IMO the very fact that the same young players today who ALL learned the game from coaches 40-50+ and over come back and act like these dudes are scrubs is mind blowing. That's like getting my diploma at school because of teachers teaching me and then claim that they are dumb after teaching me everything I know. These generations are so ignorant for an era that was born with information in the palm of their hands. Like imagine a young player calling that coach here in the video who said:' Players today are more skilled but worse bball players' and act like he has one solid reason to lie. That's how it feels for old timers. We have ZERO reason to lie(next to dumb people with dumb takes). If we would, than you would see every generation claim theirs is the best. In reality its only the new gen that does saying basketbal 'evolved'. So does 100 metre sprinting and the best sprinters in history were all middle 2000, 20 years ago.
Those older fan already watch 90s and today NBA.Thet know the differences.Unlike young generation they just dont know how the NBA back then.Before players are warriors compare today era are divas and princess
@@jchung1506 I HATED Duke…but GHill was impossible to hate on…his game was SO smooth and explosive…his junior year run to the NCAA finals is still one of the greatest feats I’ve ever seen…!
I enjoyed seeing him give Mark Price a shout out too. He was the second player in NBA history to make the 50-49-90 club after Larry Bird did it twice in '86 and '87. I think most people have truly forget how many really good players were around during that time. Even that Cleveland team with Price, had Brad Daughty and Larry Nance Sr on it, was pretty good. They just had the misfortune of constantly running into a buzzsaw named Micheal Jordan.
The main thing for me, personally, is disrespecting the history. All the building blocks that paved the way for you, Ant, to be here. Like in the video when Kobe speaks about past greats There is a neat little video when Novak Djokovic, the greatest tennis player, was asked ,,How does it feel to be the greatest male tennis player in history?" after winning his 23rd Grand Slam. His response was so humble. He first said thank you, and then paid respect to all the great champions of his sport that came before him! That is a mark of a true champion, and hopefully, someday Ant will realize this also, but now he is just disrespectful, ungrateful, entitled child.
Grant was my favorite player growing up.. penny was a beast.. would pick both of them over ant in there prime.. both were supposed to be the next coming of MJ and could have been if they weren’t plagued by injuries.. this guy will never be on that level just like his BFF bum.. they ain’t got enough heart for the game the way players in the 90’s did to ever even b considered great
I've always wanted to know what "skills" these NBA players are talking about. Is it the dribbling? That could easily be debunked by the rule changes. Older players had to dribble within the rules. The NBA literally had to soften up on carrying and traveling to allow more scoring. So is it the 3 point shooting? That could also be explained by the evolution of the game. Today's NBA barely has any skill. They are not more skilled nor talented than before. No one boxes out. No one knows how to set a proper screen. We need to stop this mindset that just because it's more new, therefore it's better. It's just... different. Not better.
@@andrewcook1246 no. And the players from the 90s and even 2000s didn't disrespect and disqualify the players that came before them. Yet these new age of players and media like JJ Redick always try to downplay the past generations. Why is that?
@@andrewcook1246 putting context isn't the same thing as disrespect. You're clearly not on your side of youtube here bruh. Go back to jxmmyhighroller 😂
Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Robinson, Dominique, Barkley, Petrovic, Penny, Pippen, Hill, Cummings, Drexler, Price, Isiah, K Malone, Stockton, Magic, Bird, Kemp, Payton, Aguirre, Blackman, Dantley, Bernard King, Michael Ray, Dr. J, Moses, Kareem, Worthy, Greyhound (W Davis), etc... like bro wtf lol we could keep going on with this list for days of amazing 80's & 90's players
Players nowadays are most DEFINITELY not more highly skilled. They are simply allowed to travel and carry now, whereas they could not in the 90s. Steph Curry would be called for a travel or carry ll nearly every single time he touches the ball if it was the 90s. Even moreso in the 80s
'thats' HOW GOOD [GREAT] "Michael Jordan" was ... people 'today' ACTUALLY think he 'couldnt' have been as good as he was; 'it' HAD TO BE because NOBODY else was 'skilled' (RIDICULOUS)
You are using facts, logic and context. I appreciate that. Unfortunately the ones that need to learn from your vids, lack the mental faculties to do so
You ain’t lying about Penny and G. Hill, as someone who is old enough to actually see them play. They were both unstoppable… they would’ve been all time greats if it weren’t for the injuries
Anthony Edwards hasn't done shit yet he talks a lot of shit. No MVPs, no significant awards yet talks like he's a superstar. Back it up first before talking trash about past decades. That's why old NBA heads are triggered because this generation is disrespectful to the past legends. Remember, if not for them, NBA will not be what it is today. 1990s basketball paved the way for these players because they made the game global.
Hakeem Olajawan, Charles Barkley, David Robinson Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, Tracy Mcgrady, John Stockton, Jerry stackHouse I can literally go on forever there were so many amazing players. They don't understand the hard foul era, post up half court offense, if you try to get out in transition and miss 24 seconds until you get it back
Basically what the kids today say about the 90s is what kids who lived during the 90s said about the 80s, 70s, and 60s. Anthony Edwards will get his own NBA karma fanhood in 30 years. Can you imagine kids in the year 2054 say, "We done with the 2020s."
Just watch the playoffs from 1993-98. Look how big and jacked the players were compared to now and how athletic they were. This is not only wrong it couldn't be more wrong. The peak of the NBA was 1993-2002.
Larry Johnson, and Jim Jackson are also great players from that era who had their careers derailed with injury. In the 2010s Brandon Roy was also another.
Your first example is interesting, it's because of his injury that Grandmama was forced to rethink his game and learn shooting. It shows that it is not an inborn skill problem.
Ah the 90s when bball and hip hop were crazy. They gave you more food than you could eat on airplanes. People talked to each other instead of staring at their phones. I understand why they don’t want to think about those days because they aren’t coming back 😆
Now go watch a 1960s game and compare dribbling rules to the 90s. Guess what? They were all inter-galactic astronauts in the 80s by 60's standards too. You probably too young to appreciate such concepts
I call it the cupcake with extra frosting era, the "mom can my friends sleep over tonight" era, the "we cant score unless we shootin 3s" era, the "we podcast better than we ball" era 🤣
These kids today say that the 90s wasn't skilled and was unathletic... If they were that bad, why was this by far the most successful era, popularity wise?
Because it was when the NBA officials tried actively to enhance its popularity, even selling foreign TV rights that were nonexistent short before. Popularity has nothing to do with skills, and logically, a rise of popularity make a rise in wannabes, and a rise in skill for the next coming gen (Kobe's). But 90's gen had skill for sure and Ant's take is nothing but noise.
because it was when basketball started becoming popular worldwide and they made sure jordan is the face of the league. and since he's the face of the league the nba would make sure his flaws are hidden to make him the perfect player
They played simulation basketball back then…now it’s an arcade game. The viewership doesn’t lie, caitlin clark is attracting the same number of viewers as playoff NBA games
exactly, the average 3point shooting has improved only by a TINY amount of 2.4 % between 90s and today 9:45 that is nothing but they praise themselves as being more skilled 😄 and keep in mind it is easier to shoot the 3s today as they take more attempts and they can do all kind of travelling and dubious stepbacks
Let's not forget that the 80s and 90s were way more physical than alone would be enough to stop a lot of players in today's league and on top of that the players from the 80s and 90s actually had to follow the rules. In today's league you don't even have to dribble you can literally just catch the ball like a wide receiver take off running with the ball and dunk it 😂.
I’m 54 so I started watching and really paying attention to sports in the late 70s. At the time NO player in the NBA..NFL..or MLB made 1 million a year in salary. I think the first was Nolan Ryan in 1979. And the average fan believed money was going to get out of hand and the athlete would lose his incentive/desire. This was mentioned when a player held out or signed a new record deal…pretty much through the 80s. What we found out is that for the vast majority this wasn’t the case…money didn’t ruin the player. (The exceptions could be high draft pick busts…but most times it wasn’t money that ruined them..they just were bad picks that gms missed on). I mention that because I feel the NBA has crossed the rubicon with NBA salaries. I can’t say exactly when it was…but my opinion is the downfall was max contracts. I have never begrudged an athlete “from getting paid”. I’ve almost always been on the side of the player in a contract holdout. BUT when teams started way over paying average free agents…just to cut that player a year or 2 later..or in the case of the NBA..to trade that contract a year or 2 later…I knew it was going in a bad bad direction. But the media and fans fell into the trap of playing that game…overpaying players and then dumping bad contracts only to sign another bad contract. Suddenly you had 7 foot stiffs that only could block a few shots…or stand up shooters that couldn’t defend or offer anything else…making millions. But the max contracts was the biggest mistake of all. Again..a true proven star player making max money…that sounds fair. But without going thru its history…just look around the NBA at players making max money or very near max money…it’s ridiculous. To jump ahead and add to this…media and fans have also fell for “load management”…and be as cautious/conservative with a players slight injury or god forbid “the players recovery”. I don’t know what the magic number(salary) is that seems to have softened the player..where it makes the player lose drive…where the player is more than happy to sit…where winning a title is not the main thing…or where the player confuses his inflated salary with greatness. The NBA is littered with players that I have just described. But what I do know for sure…when Jordan finally was a free agent…the Bulls finally paid him 25-30 mil a year…and it never changed who he was as a player a bit. He of course is immune to the over paid player syndromes. The current product the NBA puts out now and has for at least 15 years is not the legitimate NBA that Jordan played in. The softened defensive rules…the copycat offenses where everybody launches 3s…”stars” that sit out 15-20 games a year…”stars” that duck other “stars”..the total lack of high IQ basketball…and the changing the building block rules of basketball such as traveling and carrying just to appease the uneducated And 1 and mixtape fans….has all ruined and killed basketball. My long vent leads me to the comments made by Anthony Edwards. Because of his already insane contract and knowing it will only increase exponentially increase in the upcoming years….he thinks his compensation equals his “skill”. And he…along with his contemporaries are being highly compensated because they have reached an all time level of skill. He purposely made sure to mention Jordan was the only one with skill back in the day…because everyone knows Jordan is a billionaire and everyone obviously knows the Air Jordan brand is the unquestioned sneaker brand. So since Jordan is so rich…Edwards allows for Jordan to have skill. And the “skill” comments have again been grown from media fan boys…uneducated younger fans..current players…and any former NBA players that that work directly or indirectly with the NBA..or former players who are getting paid in some way for talking about the NBA. Skill isn’t traveling…skill isn’t carrying the ball…changing the terminology and what referees call a gather step isn’t a sign that a player has more skill. Pounding the basketball without leading to a good shot isn’t skill. Having no true concept and execution of man to man defense isn’t a skill. Being allowed to set moving screens isn’t a skill. What are some skills that have dissapeared is actual footwork with 1-3 dribbles that leads to a good shot…actual post moves…how to actually defend post moves…how to get your defender sealed deep in the post…how to open up for a post pass…and for a player that knows how to actually feed a post player that has position with an on ball defender in their face. Just watch any game and you will see a post player put his hand up and the ball is lobbed to him which takes him another 5 feet from the basket. Those skills are non existent. When Magic/Bird entered the league…viewership was basically dead and the league was on life support…they resurrected it. Then when Jordan arrived he helped grow it rapidly. When Jordan retired the popularity..viewership was an all time high. Reinsdorf bought the Bulls for 9.2 million….what do you think they were worth when Jordan retired? Jordan brought true value to the NBA and to the Bulls…that’s facts. Since Jordan retired look at the drop in ratings…where do these current players show they are worth the massive uptick in salaries? These players are happen to born in the right era…when tv contracts definitely don’t match viewership. Good for them. But Jordan wasn’t a product of luck or timing…HE built on what Magic/Bird started and took the NBA to an all time high…to a global audience. Today’s player has no claim to “growing the game”. Edwards has no idea what he is talking about and sadly doesn’t even see his shortcomings. Edwards is 23 years old and just when uneducated fans and fanboy media starts comparing him to young Jordan…he falls flat on his face trying to guard Kyrie Irving(after he called Irving out)….because he said he was tired/exhausted. That right there totally encapsulated this era’s player. No idea what Jordan’s level is and what it took for Jordan to get and stay there. Everyone needs to stop comparing Lebron to Jordan and stop comparing this era to Jordan’s era. It isn’t even the same sport.
ANYBODY that has 'done the research' AND IS 'honest' KNOWS that 'this' era of NBA basketball IS one of, if not THE WORST EVER [JUST check the 'ratings']!
There is a point to be had here though. There were six expansion teams added during Jordan's time in the NBA (Hornets 88, Heat 88, Magic 89, Timberwolves 89, Grizzlies 95, Raptors 95) which really dilluted the talent pool in the league. There also wasn't the huge influx of international players yet that didn't really hit it's peak til the 2000s and 2010s. Most teams had one star and no one had the team that Jordan did. Jordan's team was so good that they made a deep playoff run without him in 1994. His level of competition post Bird/Magic era just wasn't that great. He never had to contend with any team close to the GSW
When you talk about teams back in the 90s, 80s there are always strong players in every team in every discussions which gives you the excitement to watch Jordan and the gang vs clyde and the blazers, barkleys suns vs olajuwon houstons, magic at lakers vs bird in boston there's many more players within the team I mentioned who are monsters and there's many more amazing players from the other teams. I'm 23 yrs old but I am hyped watching 90s NBA games in youtube rather than watching the current NBA because only few players has talents that gives you the excitement. The physicality back in the 90s compared to current era? It was way tougher, it was harder to score back in the 90s because of the brutal physicality in defense a prime example is the bad boys detroit pistons. In my own opinion I'd like to have the competitiveness back in the 90s rather than the current nba.
Because I knew I had access to the data, I want to add on a bit to the 3pt shooting point you make: The ABA in the 70s shot 29.31% in the 7yrs we have. We can combine the 2 ABA years at the end of the 60s with the 2 ABL years at the beginning and find that in 4 years the 60s averaged 29.67%, ironically the ABL years being higher percent despite playing on a 25ft line. Hell, some coaching tracked data from the 40s has them shooting 20.29% from beyond 24ft. With all the advancements in technology, and perfecting one form instead of learning multiple as the 40s did, we increased shooting 15% in 80 years. Only 5% since the 60s.
The problem is that none of the new generation players are surpassing the old. So they discredit the old generation to elevate themselves. Because they can’t do it with championships. MVP’s, DPOY’s or any other meaningful accolade
The 90s had great THREE POINT Shooters: Reggie Miller, Abdul-Rauf, Robert Horry, Glenn Rice, Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond, Steve Kerr, Clyde Drexler, Dale Ellis...
@@loulou7194 I agree, but tiktok didn't tell the modern fan about them so they have no clue. I grew up watching the Seattle sonics and loved their three point style with Ray Allen, Rashard lewis, and the boys
Its getting to the point that ALL the blame needs to be directed at Adam Silver - the man is going against the laws of physics by destroying the past, present , and future of the NBA
If the 90’s stunk, what does that say about today’s era? Considering the product is way worse. Objectively so. The proof is in the pudding. In the 90’s the nba exploded in popularity and more than doubled its viewership. The modern era is the first in ages to actually consistently lose viewers.
Im so glad you brought up Mitch Richmond as he gets overlooked because he was a 2 guard in Jordan Era and on a team gooding nowhere. Very fun to watch.
The 80's and 90's era would beat the daylight out of todays soft cupcake players and make them cry like the babies they are !!!! Todays players can't play defense, are not good at handeling preassure and overall are more interested in being celebrities then great players. And with Leflop James inspiring a s#it worth mentality towards younger players, it doesen't look well for the NBA future.
What is wrong with these ppl thinking today's players are more skilled??? Shoot 3's all day on top of 'NO DEFENSE' makes them skilled?? My God, I see why this country is in trouble...
Ant averaged only 22.9 points in this first 4 seasons, which makes him tied for 33 all-time with Karl Anthony Towns, believe it or not, assuming his average stays the same. Jayson Tatum is rank 32 with 23.1 ppg. Ant's lowest defensive rating is 109.5, which doesn't even put him in the top 250 all time in defensive rating. He hasn't won any rings, and was carried through his first gold medal. He hasn't done anything to warrant him disrespecting those who have come before him.
There is a mindset today, that everything and everyone from their era has to be the greatest ever. It’s not just players or entire sports, but EVERYTHING. Every single aspect of their worldview is “The best ever!”
It must really suck to realize that you'll never see the greatest basketball player that ever lived - why else would so many so-called "fans" spew so much mis- and disinformation?
We’re down with the modern game. It took a bunch of old heads 35+ to bring home gold. Those old heads played with the greatest of the 2000s (which had overlap from the 90s) Once KD, Steph and LeBron retire the NBA is finished
How much "skills" do today's NBA players actually have? They're allowed to walk, travel and palm/carry the ball more than ever when those rules were way more enforced in the 80s, 90s and early 2000's. The players back then actually had to follow the rules for the most part. The NBA has dumbed the game down for "entertainment" purposes and got most of the fanbase to accept it and even think it's "evolved" lol. It's pathetic.
Yep, if basketball evolved it would have higher ratings than it did in the 90s, the golden era of basketball
Thank you, the game has been watered down and the rules have been changed for the sake of entertainment but all it has done is ruin the competitive aspect. Being able to take 4 steps on layups and euros and palm the ball every dribble doesn’t make you more skilled. I don’t get how people don’t understand this. Ratings are at an all time low since the 70s and people think that this is the best basketball we’ve ever seen.
Exactly... dribble travel shoot for 3 zero defense
@MiddleChildFPS Euro step shouldn't be a travel. Being able to make 2 steps in the straight line is legal, but changing direction when you do them makes it illegal? That makes no sense.
If it evolved how the claim the rules would be harder not easier lmaoo !! The game went from being on hall of fame to pro. This is a joke
"no amount of evidence can ever convince idiots" Mark Twain.
Good one
And somebody needs to tell Ant Edwards to stop travelling and taking extra pivot steps the refs getting too loose allowing traveling. This is coming from a guy who recognizes him as MJ 2.0
I like "It's hard to win an argument against a smart person but it's impossible to win an argument against an idiot" That's been credited to Bill Murray.
A phrase never more relevant than today
80s had 3 dynasties pistons celtics lakers 90s had 1 . 1 great team plenty good teams bulls not winning 6 in this time
Ant just destroyed his own reputation! You don't get to say $hit like that and still be a respected basketball player... period!
Absolutely! His ego/pride is talking too much. I'm 44 & we were never raised to disrespect past professional athletes. If Michael Jordan downgraded George Garvin (ice-man),Elgin Baylor,Jerry West,Kareem,Dr. J ; etc he would lose respect. That's why I liked Jordan growing up because he respected past athletes,unlike today. These kids have no idea wtf they are talking about. I mean,Pistol Pete Maravich was a trailblazer for the NBA. There's highlights of Pistol Pete Maravich that I have yet to see any current NBA players make. That's the difference between our generation & these babies. We were raised to RESPECT not disrespect the past.
See . Kids this days, are just plain disrespectful to the game and ex players! Back then they let their skills speak for them! Now they speak more than play! At the end I think 💬 you play whoever is in front of you. And that's what MJ did! You are definitely right 👍🏽💯
Yall oldheads overreacting, YOU just don't respect him🤷♂️
@@AWGEplaza you don't have to be an oldhead to see that what Ant said was disrespectful. You can say that players today are good without bringing down the past. What are you, 12?
Just look at Kobe Bryant for example and how he respected players from past eras and even learned their moves. All the more reason why people love and respect the Black Mamba.
Damn Ant!! You spend 2 weeks with LeBron and this what you come back from the Olympics saying SMDH🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Ant is a grown man
@@cherimoneeboone7127 bro stfu . You’re a part of the problem . You can’t prop up lebron without disrespecting and discrediting mj and other all time greats and their eras . So Lebrons body of work isn’t obviously enough to make a case . Lebrons a fraud and out of the picture . Even his media companies spreading these narratives ain’t enough to put him at the top.
Ant knows nothing, just like many of these excuses for fans running around the place. It's like a daycare center now trying to corale all these pups....sad 🤦🏾 the cupcake with extra frosting era is upon us
Yeah he lost to Plumber and he still sour about it. They keep calling luka and jokic plumbers.
@@cherimoneeboone7127 “I’m grown!” says every black guy before they do some childish shit, yelling and fighting. Ant has never had a job, been laid off, wife, kids, even changed a tire. Raised on TikTok and WAP😂
I guess this is one of the reasons I hate the current players. They say players in the 90s had no skill when they did. I love to tear down the 2020s because it's the softest era in NBA history full of cupcakes.
if you put lebron in 1990 he will have like 15 turnovers from "dribbling" aka traveling every game.
sooooo skilled!
@@hoebertrabeck1621 thank you for pointing this out. It is so annoying watching him and every player getting away with travels.
@@hoebertrabeck1621 lebron isn't even skilled 90% of his career was freight training his way to the cup. Thats cool i respect it just like giannis but don't claim you're "skilled" cuz ur not LOL
@@alexnather7614exactly. If Lebron was so "skilled", he'd have no problem beating any defender in a 1v1 scenario. Yet the "Lebron system" is literally setting screens until Lebron finds the weakest the defender to attack.
I bet you edge to clips of the old heads saying they'd drop 50 a game today though xD
How can Edwards say Michael Jordan was the only skilled player in his era but, in the same breath say "I didn’t watch it back in the day, so I can’t speak on it". Let's make Shut Up and Dribble great again.
They'd have to learn how to do both first.
I started watching the NBA in 1998 and the think Bird is the best shooter to me (although Curry gets the official award) and Hakeem has the best post moves.
Shaq had nice footwork and raw power.
Dwight Howard? Was only a lob-dunk threat.
Now Jokic? Post moves are incredible. ADavis is pretty nice as well but whatever Jokic does is beastly. Great players in any era will be great. The only difference? The speed of today is faster bc someone in 1980s ain’t gonna “bump”the offensive player.
@@jlui21 draymond green passed bird in 3s
@@jlui21bird ain’t even in my top 10 for shooters😂😭 everyone in the 90s would get smoked in todays game
@@18thstreetEKFound Antman's burner. 😂🤣
I truly miss the 80s and 90s basketball..it was the best era
This guy ^
It really was
Nah that shit was trash. 80’s had no skill, very boring to watch. Unathletic & terrible bbiq. 80’s & 90’s are the most overrated era’s of basketball 100%
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It was the pinnacle of basketball. The fact that this generation had to acknowledge flopping and load management is laughable. They don’t have the mental fortitude and grit
NBA 90 is better than NBA 2020
WNBA is better than NBA 2020
BY FAR 😊
I'll assume you guys don't watch today's NBA because it's horrible. Correct?
@@robertvaldez2924 Yes
I see ..
We're witnessing "The NBA's Travelling Era".
I call it the traveling circus, it's not really basketball anymore.
Fanboys can’t prop Lebron up as the goat without having to discredit and disrespect Jordan and his era . Lebrons body of work alone , is not enough . If your in year 21 trying to convince the masses your the best ever now … your not the goat . It’s always some kind of made up accolade or award . Championships is the most important achievement and accomplishment in the sport of basketball. Lebron controls the media and the narratives , and has found a way to convince nba fans he’s the second best ever . Truth is though , a lot of credible fans and veterans don’t even have Lebron in their top 5 and top 10 lists .
What this gotta do with lebron? Lebron isn’t ant man goat
He damn sure ain’t in my top 10
@@Hunt9-qb1if your a idiot
@@cherimoneeboone7127 antman regurgitated what lebron and his media companies are spewing . False narratives , it has everything to do with that fraud . He ain’t in my top 10 either .
@@cherimoneeboone7127 it has everything to do with lebron . His klutch sports media companies are spewing bs false propaganda and narratives about Michael Jordan and his era . And ant regurgitated it right after playing alongside Lebron . Lebrons a fraud .
This is the fatherless generation. These guys nowadays didn't grow up with their father educating them on the history of the game and watching the past greats.
I'm convinced that's the core issue and why they're so disrespectful of previous generations.
I agree with you, that is one part of the problem, but add in the crack era, hence kid's could not hang out at neighborhood parks, due to violence, but have Reagan era policies when the fed, state, and local agencies stop spending money, boy's and girl's club , closing lack of investment etc , plus you got to add the AAUzination of ballgame along with the internet growth hence the so called mixtapes. Personally I think rise of portable bball goals help destroy game as well... U can play alone, guys don't team up and go play against others as much I or you I was born 1970 so you might feel me, and one more tidbit families and kid's nowadays move from location to location.... I been to long. My point being is just not the men's fault, all share this burden not just Men, or fatherless home's
It's because they can't watch those games in 4k they think it's not worth time.
societal agenda to try and erase history as well. many young kids think anything from the past is "outdated" and "is no longer relevant" imo the NBA going so hard at it's past players is one of their main ways of getting people to reject the past. i bet many of these players get a check whenever they diss past eras.
@@dariuszcalkowski6208You are absolutely right . If all those games were presented in the digital clarity of today they would realize that these dudes were not trash.
Facts...hell kd still gets breastfed😂
The fact that Kobe Bryant actually respected the past players and learned their moves says even more about the Mamba Mentality. ANT man will never be like Kobe with that mindset of disrespecting the legends or players that played before him. Rest in peace Kobe Bryant 💜💛
Bro maybe cause that’s what Kobe grew up in the 90s and that’s why he respects. While he probably knows that this era is way more skilled. Ant didn’t grow up in the 90s he grew in the 2000s and 2010s
Bro maybe cause that’s what Kobe grew up in the 90s and that’s why he respects. While he probably knows that this era is way more skilled. Ant didn’t grow up in the 90s he grew in the 2000s and 2010s
That’s why Kobe is gonna be biased towards that era.
@@JavarisDangerfieldJerry West Oscar Robertson Elgin Baylor
@@JavarisDangerfield2:50-3:45
@@JavarisDangerfieldthen look them up on the internet
Players in the 90s where men, today's players are DIVAS.
Yeah, today's players look like males but act like like females. They're non-binary !😆🤣
#GenZisTrash
Shut up old you senile man😭
No they weren't (at least not Jordan). He was constantly complaining to Stern about the rules until they changed it the way that made him dominate. He was the true DIVA (he still is).
YES! You've nailed the FACTS by mentioning Penny Hardaway, Hakeem Olajuwon and Grant Hill. It's Michael Jordan's phenomenal performances,that took out the other greatly gifted players.The 1990's were not filled with unskilled players,but had the real #GOAT in it, *which ultimately* made the others look a bit ordinary.
NOPE REAL GOAT IS WILT CAUSE WHEN HE WAS OLD BEAT PRIME JABBAR SHOW ME 1 RING OF JORDAN VS 42 OLD JABBAR
I disagree. If you watched at the time there were players who looked great until they played Michael Jordan. Barkley even looked great vs MJ in the finals but it gets forgotten since they lost
@@jasongibbs3713Because MJ outshined Barkley averaging 41 ppg. MJ was never outshined in a series. Guys like Wilt, LeBron were outshined sometimes in a series
@@jasongibbs3713 Barkley never played vs Jordan. U mean 1 Barkley vs Pippen and Jordan. I disagree jordan looked great in era where no one use 2 hands to dribble. Till Iverson came and show Jordan 40 ppg and crossover then MJ retired
Edwards stats:
2 baby mamas
1 abortion
0 finals
Abortion isn't murder, abortion isn't immoral
bro don't hate on ant
@@student99bglet me guess, you also think children are parasites until they’re born
@@student99bg Delusional but whatever you have to tell yourself to justify it.
@@student99bgI mean, he never said it was a murder…did he ?
It's crazy how many amazing players were overshadowed by Jordan during the 90s. He was head and shoulders above.
LeBronze fans will also try to make you believe that those other amazing players you mentioned "were average, couldn't shoot and jump". It's really funny.
He’s head and shoulders above everyone in NBA history
Yes MJ was head and shoulders better than anyone during the 90's- that is the whole point. MJ was the most athletic guard by a country mile- only Clyde could even hold a candle & he never even made an All Defense team. MJ was routinely being guarded by SMALL guards like GP, Dumars, Mookie Blaylock- 1 on 1.
An era characterized by glorified 1 on 1 ball (because of illegal defense rules) in a league with no parity & even less talent. I mean just look at the level of foreign talent in the 90's compared to today! It isn't even remotely close.
Nostalgia & bias will never make the 90's have more talent than now.
Jordan having to play against competition that was equally as athletic & skilled would have snuffed out any GOAT debate real quick.
@@Reaper13-hi3yo Ha, MJ was in a different class of player, the players of the 90's can at least dribble the ball without carrying and traveling from half court. Talent today? Pft.🤣
sounds like you're trying to say he was dunking on them? lol
80’s/90’s called the golden era for a reason
Jordan was driving into a paint filled with all time greats. And scoring on them.
Without flopping and crying too
@@ODOGHOST driving U MEAN ILLEGAL ZONE NO DOUBLE TEAM
@@PIP...33MJ in his major scoring seasons was triple teamed by the other team
@@legrandelysee98 nope he had wide open post up area on ISO. U saw Pistons 1 team try to play little harder NBA Had 20 then 29 teams in his era and u only saw 1 team. LOL dude he played vs 5'2 Bogues even blind can score 150 pts on 5'2 dwarf
@@PIP...33 No, not even LeBron would have made 150 points on Mugsy Bogues and you know it 🤡 it's clear to me you're just a hater, the bad boys to actually slow down MJ, they had to punch on a daily basis Jordan, and despite the punishment received, he still gave 20+ points. LeBron was fckig outscored by JJ Barea and they weren't even implementing bad boys basketball on him. Even in his worst series, MJ was never outshined. LeBron has a couple of series where he wasn't the best
wow, there is a delusion epidemic.
It's not delusion, they are just scumbags.
With how open the paint is and with how travels and carry aren't called modern players aren't ready for Jordan. 😂
Mjs quick first step and ability to change direction, coupled with being able to run with the ball and not get calls would quite literally be ungaurdable
@@d.columbia9603he couldn’t even dribble with his left hand bro😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@honestman3918 well you clearly never watched games as there is over whelming evidence that debunks that moronic narrative. Thanks for proving your a clown
@@d.columbia9603he was already unguardable when playing by the rules. I can only imagine... but that would be wack and watered down. Just like the NBA today
@@honestman3918 this has been thoroughly debunked. Pretend to do some research. Your ignorance is showing
AntMan talking all that shit after getting destroyed by Dallas with only two players who can play any offense while he was on a stacked team. What a clown 😂😂😂😂
Anthony Edward's was on a stacked team? With who?
The wolves aren’t a stacked team wtf are you talking about
Mike had 1 playoff win at the same point in his career and made the playoffs twice with a losing record.
3 time defensive player of the year(Rudy) , multiple time allstar (KAT), and the 6th man of the year. I think that’s a pretty stacked team.
@@MiddleChildFPS thank you sir, because I too believe that team is stacked. But of course you have these goofs trying to convince you otherwise if Conley KAT and Gobert didn't average 30+ points each in the playoffs 🤦🏾
Basketball discourse on social media is so tiresome at this point. Honestly making me lose my love for the game. Too much ignorant takes becoming the narratives people who don't know any better run with and start believing.
Same bro….
know one discusses the game of basketball. It’s just narratives, legacies, this era was trash, this player is overrated. Just nonsense slop arguments about people’s opinions who have never hooped before. They just wanna dickride their fav player or team. It has killed my love slightly.
Clear example of what I mean in the reply below , to much brain rot and tictok , logic doesn’t even make sense to them anymore⬇️ 👇
You can blame lebron and his cult / LeMedia for all this toxicness in the league. They are the ones who started disrespecting all time great and eras. I’ve lost all love for the game because of that narcissist
@user-lt9bk8lk9d lmaoooo !!! Imagine being a god at basketball and you can’t master freethrows, one of the most basic fundamentals of the game 😂😂😂 the way you cultist allowed the media to brainwash ya is amazing
It's not just basketball. The brain rot has infected everything and tries to rewrite history out of willful ignorance
@user-lt9bk8lk9dwe're done with your ignorance.
You can look at his dumb smile and tell, that Ant isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
He got the 5 year old with saggy poop pants barefoot playing in the yard aura...
Dude has a baby momma crisis he isn’t too sharp in my book
No I doubt he passed up a promising career in quantum physics or anything.
Excellent commentary! You kinda know your basketball history. I'm 66 years old and I'm impressed with your evaluation! Keep up the good work!
Current players and new fans should know that 15-20 years from now people will show clips of players like Russel Westbrock making some stupid plays and talk about how that era sucked.
Bricking shots off the side of the backboard, missing point blank layups 😂😂 yet he won a mvp and averaged a triple double multiple seasons....and some kid is going to ask how did he accomplish all of that with a flawed skillset and that kid is going to say to himself...the 2010s and 20s must've sucked
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd And how this so called "most athletic era" was dominated by a serbian farmer !😆🤣
No he's a horse racer@@loulou7194
@@loulou7194That "Serbian farmer" has established himself as one of the greatest centers in the history of the game. He is also one of the greatest offensive forces in the history of the game. He has two MVP awards, a championship, multiple amazing performances, and has shown to be one of the best human beings in the NBA. Show some respect.
@@urbaindelva7869 I know all that, it was just sarcasm; it's ironic that the current "athletic" era is dominated by a very smart and skilled but unathletic dude!
I was watching the 92 NBA Finals a few months ago and they called traveling on Jordan in the NBA Finals. The game is completely different now and athletes get away with alot today. Anthony Edward's take on the 90's NBA just cements the fact that he is not a student of the game.
Ratings confirm that we have been done with 2010’s and 2020’s
At this point I'm questioning if these young players think they're more skilled because travels and carries aren't called against them and the guys back in the day couldn't do the same without being penalized 🤔💀
Correct
Lol if you put 90s players in the 60's and 70s guess what? They are going ti get called for travels and carries all day too. We disqualfying them too?
Thats exactly the problem
Facts they ignore the fact that they change all the rules to make it easier to score. That's why we have guys that are average that look like STARs an incredible inflated stats
@@andrewcook1246 the rules changed in the late 90s in the early 2000s but in the last 10 years 15 years, it has gotten very bad to the point where sometimes players forget that they have to bounce ball😂😂
This take he had was obviously influenced by Lebron. He just played with him in the Olympics
He followed KD like a puppy and KD is a Jordan fan. If he said it was MJ would you be here blaming KD? Or were you looking for an excuse to shit on Bron?
Ant is a grown man and lebron not even his goat lol kd is get off bron D.I.C.K
Exactly. LeBroad started the disrespect of the MJ era. So when LBJ came in the league 20 years ago he was playing against bums? Like why haven’t the vets checked this 🤡 by now?
@@airquotesteltruvision3385 when did lebron ever disrespect the old era show 1 quote
@@cherimoneeboone7127he never did mj was literally his favorite player oldheads just say shit without any evidence and are conspiracy theorists lmaoo
Magic and Larry were so much better than Anthony Edwards will ever be, that its comical to think he thinks hes better than them. Dude is a clown and got smoked by Luka, what does he think hes going to do to Larry.
Right and people forget larry was a legit 6'10
@@jaridatkinson4907 these young dudes don't understand how physical basketball was in them days. Fouls that would get a player in today's game suspended multiple games were damn near a common foul in the 80s and early 90s. The amount of points someone like Larry, Magic, or Jordan would score in today's NBA rules is insane. They forget how after Jordan retired the NBA was a dying game, and to fix that they started bending the rules in favor of the offense to run the score up.
@bigred9991 yeah they weren't around so they don't get it but yeah u spot on
@@bigred9991 Just watch a defense setup from the 80's and 90's. Everything was played within the 3 point line. Now we have 3 players just sitting outside the 3 point line waiting for someone to pass them the ball. No one is learning how to play with their back to the hoop which takes more skill with foot work then catching and shooting into a basket you can already see. Everyone of them had to learn how to make their own basket.
Their are entirely different skill-set players today have to have. If were a big man learn how to shoot past 15 feet was not needed back then. Now everyone has to have a 3 point shot. Back in my day shooting a long range shot was seen as being weak because it means you could not handle the defense. Now it's everyone has the have that in their bag. Take away the 3 point line these players today would be laugh off the court. and vis versa. It is 2 different games they are playing.
Larry bird had 0 muscle mass 0 athleticism or quickness put the drugs down lol
Can't wait til the old heads start speaking up
For people that think players are that much more skilled now :
Footwork SUCKS.
We went from watching players at the GUARD position that could work their way into the paint with footwork, to this horrible nonsense today of front court players falling over their own feet.
my guy barely any guard in the old era got good footwork driving to the paint cuz all they do was pass to the bigmen
250 players over 6’6 and can’t execute a post move to save their life other than about 30 guys 😂
Disrespect is at an ALL TIME HIGH! It's ridiculous🤦🏿♂️ Jordan has somehow become overrated & his peers didn't know how to play basketball😅 All in an attempt to prop up today's players who have the new NBA rules in their favor by not calling ball handling violations & taking away defense which gives the offensive player even more of an advantage they already have🙄 My favorite player right now is Ja & I'm very aware of what he's able to get away with & one of the best in what the game ALLOWS today but never would I say he's better than past players because of that. It's just not true! I'm 34 & I still love this game even tho it's taking a dive but I completely separate what's now vs 90s on back because the rule changes & technology change the way the game is played to where lots of players today "look" great but tough times, clutch situations & actual defense expose a lot of them💯🏀
Well said bro!!
This current era has nothing but narratives.
like how jordan would dominate this current era? or how jordan played in a much physical era? lol more of jordan's narratives are exposed, he got helped by the refs tim donaghy admitted this and he's a former ref, handchecking was also illegal in the 80s 90s we still got the newspaper surrounding the changes, the sports analysts never even brought up not only the lies of handchecking but also the shortened 3pt line in the 90s. manufactured goat getting exposed more n more
Other skilled players beyond the ones you highlighted to name a few: Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bean, Shaq, Barkeley, Reggie Miller, Alan Houston, Clyde, Barkeley, Jesus Shuttlesworth, Baron Davis, Air Canada, Starbury, Kevin Garnett, Pip, Payton, Kemp, Dirk, White Chocolate, The Fab 5, Nick Van Exel, and many more. What's crazy to me with regard to the 90s hatred is, it's also mirrored in Hip Hop. There must be something in the water. A people who don't know their history, have an understanding of it, and appreciate it, are a people dislocated in time.
"Forget your roots and you'll lose sight of everything."
who is Air canada? Don't you mean air france (Michael Peitrus?) :)
I'm gonna add Tim Hardaway,Kevin Johnson,Mitch Richmond,Rod Strickland
except the trend started because old generation STARTED their argument and young people STARTED looking at the history and turns out their era is exaggerated with so many flaws
@@donaldbiden636well it’s not if yoj watched them and watch them now. They played better fundamental basketball than today. The amount of traveling, double dribbling makes it unbearable to watch.
Dražen Petrović would drop 40 on Edwards' head, he was better than Edwards and Booker are today.
That said, I am pretty sure Edwards just says things for attention, he doesn't really believe it.
At any rate he hasn't a glimmer of an idea what he's talking about. So much for the Mike comparisons. 😬
bro stop it an NCAA player is dropping drazen and a g league player is dropping your manufactured free throw merchant goat
@@donaldbiden636 Dražen Petrović is better than everyone today except for Jokić, Curry, Giannis and maybe Luka (I am not sure about Luka). Put prime Dražen in today's game and even without him carrying, traveling, double dribbling and offensive fouling (which is what players today do all over the place nowadays) he is still better than almost any player today.
Dražen Petrović is not the GOAT and he is not manufactured, quite the opposite, he was not even given a chance in his first NBA season, only after he went to New Jersey he was given a chance to play and even then they didn't allow him to shoot many threes (which is what he did in Europe - shoot 2-3 times more threes than in the NBA), despite shooting 43% from 3 in his career and they didn't invite him to the 1992 and 1993 all star games even though he was better than a couple of all star guards. And he wasn't invited to the all star game because the NBA back then did not want foreigners, let alone Eastern European commies in their all star game. Then Petro died in a car accident at only 27yo, just before what was expected to be his best season thus far.
@@student99bg everyone in today's league is better than drazen he a g league bench level today. you saying he wasnt allowed to shoot 3s when the old era nba barely anyone shoot 3s to the point the nba had to shorten the 3pt line. back then basketball wasnt as popular worldwide, which means competition was even worse. only in basketball do we have people denying evolution of sports
I understand that older generation of fans and players can be overly critical of how the game is played and lack of physicality at times but it’s rare when I see those same fans and players try to downplay and discredit modern basketball maybe it occurs often I just don’t see it as often as I see modern players and fans constantly tryna disrespect and discredit previous eras of basketball it’s pure ignorance at this point
because older people know the game is changing.
if you put AI up against cousy with 60s rules... i take cousy all day.
AI would be a traveling machine.
and it got even worse, when time passed by.
Modern basketball is basically just 2k. Iso iso iso drive to the basket then kick it out for the open 3. The same reason why players like Carmelo Anthony refused to run the triangle when Phil was with the Knicks. They lack the skill and IQ to run effective plays.
The sad thing is, the only reason these players are scoring as well as they are is because the rules allow them to. They see no correlation that 2016 scoring exploded because Adam silver started letting them carry, travel, centers vanished from the game and everyone started jacking the ball. Surprisingly I believe comparing 21 3pt % to a year in the 90s, it was 2% better than the 90s 3pt%. It's just jacking more shots. It's not better, or slightly better if you want to say that.
Guys can play because they're not getting bullied on the ball. It's so free and wide open, it's like practice shots in game. Too easy compared to the past.
My man, it started off with newer gens. Believe us when we say that before these new gens FANS didnt trash the older era's, no we were intrigued by the clips and storied told by our fathers and grandfathers, but even PLAYERS consistently shown respect for how great these older gens were.
Now imagine multiple generations of people seeing the newest ones act like they were amateurs and obviously we're going to point out how these era's players severely benefit from rule changes offensively and medical advancements, bc when we say that WE KNOW because we WACTCHED it change over the era's and actually KNOW all the rule changes that happened.
IMO the very fact that the same young players today who ALL learned the game from coaches 40-50+ and over come back and act like these dudes are scrubs is mind blowing.
That's like getting my diploma at school because of teachers teaching me and then claim that they are dumb after teaching me everything I know.
These generations are so ignorant for an era that was born with information in the palm of their hands. Like imagine a young player calling that coach here in the video who said:' Players today are more skilled but worse bball players' and act like he has one solid reason to lie.
That's how it feels for old timers. We have ZERO reason to lie(next to dumb people with dumb takes). If we would, than you would see every generation claim theirs is the best.
In reality its only the new gen that does saying basketbal 'evolved'.
So does 100 metre sprinting and the best sprinters in history were all middle 2000, 20 years ago.
Those older fan already watch 90s and today NBA.Thet know the differences.Unlike young generation they just dont know how the NBA back then.Before players are warriors compare today era are divas and princess
“We done with the crybabys!” My new movement 😉🤣👏💯
Cupcakes 😂
Grant Hill was that dude, so was Penny. The 90's had alot of killers. The rules just restricted alot of the pickup game element out of it.
Larry Johnson before he injured his back was the TRUTH.
Agreed.
Grant Hill is still my all time favourite player.
@@jchung1506 I HATED Duke…but GHill was impossible to hate on…his game was SO smooth and explosive…his junior year run to the NCAA finals is still one of the greatest feats I’ve ever seen…!
0:28 hell yes Mark Price!!!! Uncut Hoops you are the man
I enjoyed seeing him give Mark Price a shout out too. He was the second player in NBA history to make the 50-49-90 club after Larry Bird did it twice in '86 and '87. I think most people have truly forget how many really good players were around during that time. Even that Cleveland team with Price, had Brad Daughty and Larry Nance Sr on it, was pretty good. They just had the misfortune of constantly running into a buzzsaw named Micheal Jordan.
The main thing for me, personally, is disrespecting the history. All the building blocks that paved the way for you, Ant, to be here. Like in the video when Kobe speaks about past greats
There is a neat little video when Novak Djokovic, the greatest tennis player, was asked ,,How does it feel to be the greatest male tennis player in history?" after winning his 23rd Grand Slam. His response was so humble. He first said thank you, and then paid respect to all the great champions of his sport that came before him!
That is a mark of a true champion, and hopefully, someday Ant will realize this also, but now he is just disrespectful, ungrateful, entitled child.
Grant was my favorite player growing up.. penny was a beast.. would pick both of them over ant in there prime.. both were supposed to be the next coming of MJ and could have been if they weren’t plagued by injuries.. this guy will never be on that level just like his BFF bum.. they ain’t got enough heart for the game the way players in the 90’s did to ever even b considered great
That’s why I love your channel whether I agree or disagree you bring context to everything!!!
I've always wanted to know what "skills" these NBA players are talking about. Is it the dribbling? That could easily be debunked by the rule changes. Older players had to dribble within the rules. The NBA literally had to soften up on carrying and traveling to allow more scoring.
So is it the 3 point shooting? That could also be explained by the evolution of the game.
Today's NBA barely has any skill. They are not more skilled nor talented than before. No one boxes out. No one knows how to set a proper screen. We need to stop this mindset that just because it's more new, therefore it's better. It's just... different. Not better.
Compare 90s dribbling rules to the 60s and 80s and guess what? They were all traveling by 60s rules. Are we disqualifying them too?
@@andrewcook1246 no. And the players from the 90s and even 2000s didn't disrespect and disqualify the players that came before them. Yet these new age of players and media like JJ Redick always try to downplay the past generations. Why is that?
@@redhorsepapi They do. They make excuses for Russell winning so much, Wilt having goofy numbers, playing plumbers, white dudes and the whole 9 yards.
@@andrewcook1246 putting context isn't the same thing as disrespect. You're clearly not on your side of youtube here bruh. Go back to jxmmyhighroller 😂
@@andrewcook1246 Shouldn't you be under a bridge threatening billy goats or something? FOH with your disingenuous devil's advocacy.
Hakeem, Shaq, Ewing, Robinson, Dominique, Barkley, Petrovic, Penny, Pippen, Hill, Cummings, Drexler, Price, Isiah, K Malone, Stockton, Magic, Bird, Kemp, Payton, Aguirre, Blackman, Dantley, Bernard King, Michael Ray, Dr. J, Moses, Kareem, Worthy, Greyhound (W Davis), etc... like bro wtf lol we could keep going on with this list for days of amazing 80's & 90's players
Players nowadays are most DEFINITELY not more highly skilled. They are simply allowed to travel and carry now, whereas they could not in the 90s. Steph Curry would be called for a travel or carry ll nearly every single time he touches the ball if it was the 90s. Even moreso in the 80s
'thats' HOW GOOD [GREAT] "Michael Jordan" was ... people 'today' ACTUALLY think he 'couldnt' have been as good as he was; 'it' HAD TO BE because NOBODY else was 'skilled' (RIDICULOUS)
Only in the NBA would they disrespect those who paved the way for the modern era…🤦♂️
You are using facts, logic and context. I appreciate that. Unfortunately the ones that need to learn from your vids, lack the mental faculties to do so
You ain’t lying about Penny and G. Hill, as someone who is old enough to actually see them play. They were both unstoppable… they would’ve been all time greats if it weren’t for the injuries
Anthony Edwards hasn't done shit yet he talks a lot of shit. No MVPs, no significant awards yet talks like he's a superstar. Back it up first before talking trash about past decades. That's why old NBA heads are triggered because this generation is disrespectful to the past legends. Remember, if not for them, NBA will not be what it is today. 1990s basketball paved the way for these players because they made the game global.
Hakeem Olajawan, Charles Barkley, David Robinson Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, Tracy Mcgrady, John Stockton, Jerry stackHouse I can literally go on forever there were so many amazing players.
They don't understand the hard foul era, post up half court offense, if you try to get out in transition and miss 24 seconds until you get it back
Basically what the kids today say about the 90s is what kids who lived during the 90s said about the 80s, 70s, and 60s. Anthony Edwards will get his own NBA karma fanhood in 30 years. Can you imagine kids in the year 2054 say, "We done with the 2020s."
Just watch the playoffs from 1993-98. Look how big and jacked the players were compared to now and how athletic they were. This is not only wrong it couldn't be more wrong. The peak of the NBA was 1993-2002.
THE DREAM ALL DAY!!!! IMO he's in my top 10 if not 5
F THIS GENERATION....DESTROYING THE GAME!!
Great take. You should also mention Clyde Drexler who was very skilled and contemporary to Jordan in the early 90s.
Larry Johnson, and Jim Jackson are also great players from that era who had their careers derailed with injury. In the 2010s Brandon Roy was also another.
Your first example is interesting, it's because of his injury that Grandmama was forced to rethink his game and learn shooting. It shows that it is not an inborn skill problem.
@crepinhauser5274 absolutely. Same with Grant Hill
Ah the 90s when bball and hip hop were crazy. They gave you more food than you could eat on airplanes. People talked to each other instead of staring at their phones. I understand why they don’t want to think about those days because they aren’t coming back 😆
I like to call this era of NBA bball the passport era, cause there’s so much traveling going on you’d think teams are getting frequent flyer miles.
Now go watch a 1960s game and compare dribbling rules to the 90s. Guess what? They were all inter-galactic astronauts in the 80s by 60's standards too.
You probably too young to appreciate such concepts
I call it the cupcake with extra frosting era, the "mom can my friends sleep over tonight" era, the "we cant score unless we shootin 3s" era, the "we podcast better than we ball" era 🤣
You're right, the 'passport simps' era👍👍
@@loulou7194 🤣
Love that Captain Picard cut 😂
These kids today say that the 90s wasn't skilled and was unathletic... If they were that bad, why was this by far the most successful era, popularity wise?
Because it was when the NBA officials tried actively to enhance its popularity, even selling foreign TV rights that were nonexistent short before. Popularity has nothing to do with skills, and logically, a rise of popularity make a rise in wannabes, and a rise in skill for the next coming gen (Kobe's). But 90's gen had skill for sure and Ant's take is nothing but noise.
because it was when basketball started becoming popular worldwide and they made sure jordan is the face of the league. and since he's the face of the league the nba would make sure his flaws are hidden to make him the perfect player
They played simulation basketball back then…now it’s an arcade game. The viewership doesn’t lie, caitlin clark is attracting the same number of viewers as playoff NBA games
Thank you! I been saying it for years. Evolution takes thousands of years not 30 years.
in the context of sports, evolution isnt even about genomics. what a dumb argument
“Larry Bird - great outside shooter”
Great shooter from everywhere! Great rebounder, great passer, great defender, great steeler!
That thanos clip has me dead 😂😂😂
And the kuzma 1 lol what n da world was that great stuff
exactly, the average 3point shooting has improved only by a TINY amount of 2.4 % between 90s and today 9:45 that is nothing but they praise themselves as being more skilled 😄 and keep in mind it is easier to shoot the 3s today as they take more attempts and they can do all kind of travelling and dubious stepbacks
Let's not forget that the 80s and 90s were way more physical than alone would be enough to stop a lot of players in today's league and on top of that the players from the 80s and 90s actually had to follow the rules. In today's league you don't even have to dribble you can literally just catch the ball like a wide receiver take off running with the ball and dunk it 😂.
I’m 54 so I started watching and really paying attention to sports in the late 70s. At the time NO player in the NBA..NFL..or MLB made 1 million a year in salary. I think the first was Nolan Ryan in 1979. And the average fan believed money was going to get out of hand and the athlete would lose his incentive/desire. This was mentioned when a player held out or signed a new record deal…pretty much through the 80s. What we found out is that for the vast majority this wasn’t the case…money didn’t ruin the player. (The exceptions could be high draft pick busts…but most times it wasn’t money that ruined them..they just were bad picks that gms missed on).
I mention that because I feel the NBA has crossed the rubicon with NBA salaries. I can’t say exactly when it was…but my opinion is the downfall was max contracts. I have never begrudged an athlete “from getting paid”. I’ve almost always been on the side of the player in a contract holdout. BUT when teams started way over paying average free agents…just to cut that player a year or 2 later..or in the case of the NBA..to trade that contract a year or 2 later…I knew it was going in a bad bad direction. But the media and fans fell into the trap of playing that game…overpaying players and then dumping bad contracts only to sign another bad contract. Suddenly you had 7 foot stiffs that only could block a few shots…or stand up shooters that couldn’t defend or offer anything else…making millions. But the max contracts was the biggest mistake of all. Again..a true proven star player making max money…that sounds fair. But without going thru its history…just look around the NBA at players making max money or very near max money…it’s ridiculous.
To jump ahead and add to this…media and fans have also fell for “load management”…and be as cautious/conservative with a players slight injury or god forbid “the players recovery”.
I don’t know what the magic number(salary) is that seems to have softened the player..where it makes the player lose drive…where the player is more than happy to sit…where winning a title is not the main thing…or where the player confuses his inflated salary with greatness. The NBA is littered with players that I have just described. But what I do know for sure…when Jordan finally was a free agent…the Bulls finally paid him 25-30 mil a year…and it never changed who he was as a player a bit. He of course is immune to the over paid player syndromes.
The current product the NBA puts out now and has for at least 15 years is not the legitimate NBA that Jordan played in. The softened defensive rules…the copycat offenses where everybody launches 3s…”stars” that sit out 15-20 games a year…”stars” that duck other “stars”..the total lack of high IQ basketball…and the changing the building block rules of basketball such as traveling and carrying just to appease the uneducated And 1 and mixtape fans….has all ruined and killed basketball.
My long vent leads me to the comments made by Anthony Edwards. Because of his already insane contract and knowing it will only increase exponentially increase in the upcoming years….he thinks his compensation equals his “skill”. And he…along with his contemporaries are being highly compensated because they have reached an all time level of skill. He purposely made sure to mention Jordan was the only one with skill back in the day…because everyone knows Jordan is a billionaire and everyone obviously knows the Air Jordan brand is the unquestioned sneaker brand. So since Jordan is so rich…Edwards allows for Jordan to have skill.
And the “skill” comments have again been grown from media fan boys…uneducated younger fans..current players…and any former NBA players that that work directly or indirectly with the NBA..or former players who are getting paid in some way for talking about the NBA.
Skill isn’t traveling…skill isn’t carrying the ball…changing the terminology and what referees call a gather step isn’t a sign that a player has more skill. Pounding the basketball without leading to a good shot isn’t skill. Having no true concept and execution of man to man defense isn’t a skill. Being allowed to set moving screens isn’t a skill.
What are some skills that have dissapeared is actual footwork with 1-3 dribbles that leads to a good shot…actual post moves…how to actually defend post moves…how to get your defender sealed deep in the post…how to open up for a post pass…and for a player that knows how to actually feed a post player that has position with an on ball defender in their face. Just watch any game and you will see a post player put his hand up and the ball is lobbed to him which takes him another 5 feet from the basket. Those skills are non existent.
When Magic/Bird entered the league…viewership was basically dead and the league was on life support…they resurrected it. Then when Jordan arrived he helped grow it rapidly. When Jordan retired the popularity..viewership was an all time high. Reinsdorf bought the Bulls for 9.2 million….what do you think they were worth when Jordan retired? Jordan brought true value to the NBA and to the Bulls…that’s facts. Since Jordan retired look at the drop in ratings…where do these current players show they are worth the massive uptick in salaries? These players are happen to born in the right era…when tv contracts definitely don’t match viewership. Good for them. But Jordan wasn’t a product of luck or timing…HE built on what Magic/Bird started and took the NBA to an all time high…to a global audience. Today’s player has no claim to “growing the game”.
Edwards has no idea what he is talking about and sadly doesn’t even see his shortcomings. Edwards is 23 years old and just when uneducated fans and fanboy media starts comparing him to young Jordan…he falls flat on his face trying to guard Kyrie Irving(after he called Irving out)….because he said he was tired/exhausted. That right there totally encapsulated this era’s player. No idea what Jordan’s level is and what it took for Jordan to get and stay there.
Everyone needs to stop comparing Lebron to Jordan and stop comparing this era to Jordan’s era. It isn’t even the same sport.
In reality there's no point in arguing with any of these people. You're arguing with ignorance. Never argue with stupid people.
Uncut Hoops and Basketball Time Machine are my favorite basketball channels. Keep up the great work Uncut Hoops.
ANYBODY that has 'done the research' AND IS 'honest' KNOWS that 'this' era of NBA basketball IS one of, if not THE WORST EVER [JUST check the 'ratings']!
They have no room to grow k. The states and it’s gone stale. The nba is way more interested in the Chinese market
There is a point to be had here though. There were six expansion teams added during Jordan's time in the NBA (Hornets 88, Heat 88, Magic 89, Timberwolves 89, Grizzlies 95, Raptors 95) which really dilluted the talent pool in the league. There also wasn't the huge influx of international players yet that didn't really hit it's peak til the 2000s and 2010s. Most teams had one star and no one had the team that Jordan did. Jordan's team was so good that they made a deep playoff run without him in 1994. His level of competition post Bird/Magic era just wasn't that great. He never had to contend with any team close to the GSW
No one cares about mike in this generation.. kudos to Anthony for choosing Lebron as the real goat and mvp
When you talk about teams back in the 90s, 80s there are always strong players in every team in every discussions which gives you the excitement to watch Jordan and the gang vs clyde and the blazers, barkleys suns vs olajuwon houstons, magic at lakers vs bird in boston there's many more players within the team I mentioned who are monsters and there's many more amazing players from the other teams. I'm 23 yrs old but I am hyped watching 90s NBA games in youtube rather than watching the current NBA because only few players has talents that gives you the excitement. The physicality back in the 90s compared to current era? It was way tougher, it was harder to score back in the 90s because of the brutal physicality in defense a prime example is the bad boys detroit pistons. In my own opinion I'd like to have the competitiveness back in the 90s rather than the current nba.
Because I knew I had access to the data, I want to add on a bit to the 3pt shooting point you make:
The ABA in the 70s shot 29.31% in the 7yrs we have.
We can combine the 2 ABA years at the end of the 60s with the 2 ABL years at the beginning and find that in 4 years the 60s averaged 29.67%, ironically the ABL years being higher percent despite playing on a 25ft line.
Hell, some coaching tracked data from the 40s has them shooting 20.29% from beyond 24ft.
With all the advancements in technology, and perfecting one form instead of learning multiple as the 40s did, we increased shooting 15% in 80 years. Only 5% since the 60s.
The problem is that none of the new generation players are surpassing the old. So they discredit the old generation to elevate themselves. Because they can’t do it with championships. MVP’s, DPOY’s or any other meaningful accolade
Great video. You were slipping on some before glad you're back with a quality take and points
When they say skill they just mean three point shooting
And carrying. Oh I mean, dribbling.
@@redhorsepapi and the "gather step" aka traveling
The 90s had great THREE POINT Shooters: Reggie Miller, Abdul-Rauf, Robert Horry, Glenn Rice, Chris Mullin, Mitch Richmond, Steve Kerr, Clyde Drexler, Dale Ellis...
@@loulou7194 I agree, but tiktok didn't tell the modern fan about them so they have no clue. I grew up watching the Seattle sonics and loved their three point style with Ray Allen, Rashard lewis, and the boys
Meanwhile, everybody travels today and nobody has a legit hook or sky hook today.
Its getting to the point that ALL the blame needs to be directed at Adam Silver - the man is going against the laws of physics by destroying the past, present , and future of the NBA
Yes it took MJ years but when the Bulls finally clicked in the 90's no one were eating well in their watch
If the 90’s stunk, what does that say about today’s era? Considering the product is way worse. Objectively so. The proof is in the pudding. In the 90’s the nba exploded in popularity and more than doubled its viewership. The modern era is the first in ages to actually consistently lose viewers.
Im so glad you brought up Mitch Richmond as he gets overlooked because he was a 2 guard in Jordan Era and on a team gooding nowhere. Very fun to watch.
The 80's and 90's era would beat the daylight out of todays soft cupcake players and make them cry like the babies they are !!!!
Todays players can't play defense, are not good at handeling preassure and overall are more interested in being celebrities then great players.
And with Leflop James inspiring a s#it worth mentality towards younger players, it doesen't look well for the NBA future.
Nba 90s is the best era.
What is wrong with these ppl thinking today's players are more skilled??? Shoot 3's all day on top of 'NO DEFENSE' makes them skilled?? My God, I see why this country is in trouble...
Ant averaged only 22.9 points in this first 4 seasons, which makes him tied for 33 all-time with Karl Anthony Towns, believe it or not, assuming his average stays the same. Jayson Tatum is rank 32 with 23.1 ppg. Ant's lowest defensive rating is 109.5, which doesn't even put him in the top 250 all time in defensive rating. He hasn't won any rings, and was carried through his first gold medal. He hasn't done anything to warrant him disrespecting those who have come before him.
clearly a 3second vioalation by edwards 4:19 😄 like 5 seconds in the paint
When you can only name 3 players with skill in Jordan era this is crazy 😭😭
'i' STILL DONT think 'todays' players are more 'skilled' or more 'talented' THAN players FROM the '90s'.
There is a mindset today, that everything and everyone from their era has to be the greatest ever. It’s not just players or entire sports, but EVERYTHING. Every single aspect of their worldview is “The best ever!”
If you were too young to watch Grant Hill man he was really gonna be him
The late 80s and 90s were robbed of its best players. Bias died, Hill got injured, Penny got injured, Sabonis wasn't allowed to play until he was old.
@@andrewcook1246 dawg u not lying like sabonis is so big of a what if it's crazy we really did get robbed tbh
I remember watching them as a kid..❤
Grant would have won the championship if he didn't get hurt during the playoff run.
Great essay, you have earned my sub.
It must really suck to realize that you'll never see the greatest basketball player that ever lived - why else would so many so-called "fans" spew so much mis- and disinformation?
Penny probably had the most developed post game at that early of a stage in his career I have seen. He had everything literally.
(i LOST 'any' and ALL RESPECT FOR Anthony Edwards)
We’re down with the modern game. It took a bunch of old heads 35+ to bring home gold. Those old heads played with the greatest of the 2000s (which had overlap from the 90s)
Once KD, Steph and LeBron retire the NBA is finished
profound Edwards...guess outside of Jordan you never watched a single basketball game from that era
Oh no, he only saw Jordan's highlights... (He's a GenZ, watching an entire game is too complicated for his small brain🧠💩)