The Most Unique Deck I've Built In Awhile
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- Are very unique build for Smeagol, Helpful Guide.
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A janky combo I came up with a while ago is a perfect fit in this deck, Animate Land + The End. Turn an opponents basic land into a creature, cast The End on it and go exile every basic land with the same name from their deck.
You can also use Eradicate and the Genju auras from Betrayers of Kamigawa. Or Liquimetal Coating and Splinter. There are a lot of ways to approach this combo.
The reason this smeagol in particular is popular is bc most content creators hyped it up in preview season as it goes infinite with another card that tempts you whenever a land comes into play. So it was always a mill deck and it’s a 2 card combo half of which is in the command zone. Edit: i think you need a token and a sac outlet too mb. The card is “Dúnedain Rangers”.
Just checked it out sadly I don't think it goes Infinite cause once you've chosen a ringbearer it won't trigger again
@@alexv1265 so, in the edit, i write that u need a sac outlet and token generator e.g: scuteswarm. U make the token the ringbearer, tutor a land, sac the ringbearer, repeat. Like a 4 piece combo but a) mills infinitely, b) 1 piece is in the command zone, c) you’re playing landfall so a token generator off of landfall should already be in the list.
Another good card for letting your opponents ramp is Old-Growth Dryads. It’s a 3/3 creature for G that on ETB lets each opponent search for a basic and put it into play tapped. It’s one of my favorites from my “undercosted high power creatures with hug downsides” deck.
I actually have a Smeagol milling deck as well, which was inspired by an older video where you talked about Bloodbond March.
I mainly use Smeagol to ramp. The milling engine is 11 Ravenous Rats and Altar of Dementia. I use Bloodbond March and a lot of graveyard-to-hand cards. And of course, Secret Salvage (another card this channel put me on) to get all those Rats in the graveyard for Bloodbond March abuse.
Really nice decklist ! You should add Undercity Informer ;)
2:50 "Bramble Sovereign" might help you (she gives you clone tokens in green"
This forced ramp gravestorm is how I built my The Gitrog Monster back when it first came out! Love it so much
I actually have a Naya combo deck like this! It's built around Zo-zu and Realm Razer, but it's even easier when you get to include white because of cards like Path to Exile and Settle the Wreckage!
Not to mention, when the ramp is tacked onto your removal, people have MUCH less of a problem with the removal--since it's so much easier to rebuild.
I overloaded Winds of Abandon while playing this deck last month, and despite everyone taking a pretty nasty hit to board presence, I didn't get focused afterward.
You forgot tempt with discovery! I love that one!
Love this deck tech, I have been trying to build a smeagol mill deck, thanks for the recommendations for some of the janky cards to fill the deck out
I built a Dimir Lord of the Nazgul deck with nine Nazgul cards, and found the explosion of +1/+1 counters on Wraiths from Nazgul ring-tempts-you triggers totally overwhelmed all other deck dynamics and win conditions. Once you get Call of the Ring and 3+ Nazguls in play, there's no stopping the +1/+1 counter population explosion. You hardly even need your commander in play - Lord of the Nazgul just adds more Wraiths to the battlefield and blows out the game when you reach nine Wraiths.
Smeagol, Helpful Guide is intriguing, but the lack of Blue makes it harder to defend from removal. With nine Nazgul in a deck, I think I'd prefer to go Sultai rather than switch from Dimir to Golgari. Perhaps Yarok, the Desecrated would make a good Sultai bridge commander, doubling the ETB ring-tempts-you triggers your Nazgul generate to pump Smeagol's mill assaults? You could double it again with Panharmonicon or Reflections of Littjara as well.
Great list, I had a Smeagol nazgul deck for a while but without this mill focus. Might rebuild!
I ran blood pet and lotus field in mine. Effects that let you sac lands you control but don't own is great value. Blood pet (mana egg type things) let you get a Smeagol trigger as soon as he comes out!
Sounds fun. Thx
I have head games in my Smoegal deck. It works great for thinning decks... give the player in the lead a hand of lands. It also gives the option of helping out someone who is behind.
not sure it if is just all ready an auto include in the deck, but ghoulish procession does work in smealgol. all but guarantees the end step triggers, not a bad ring bearer target either.
Hey Demo, just wanted to let you know I found a neat card you might like to throw into your Shanna deck. Junkyo Bell is a 4 mana artifact that can replicate Shanna's ability and put it on a creature you control on upkeep. It makes you sac that creature at the end of turn, but you already plan on saccing big creatures in that deck anyways so I thought it was a good fit. It also lets you turn a token into a big sac target if you need it for some reason (since you probably won't always have Shanna around on your upkeep)
Demo, I built and played a Kaho, Minamo Hostorian deck due to you bringing them to light. It is mainly about getting Kaho out & casting Prologue to Phyresis. Everyone at my table actually loved it, even though it is infect. The deck has 0 infect creatures but does run all of the good Proliferate cards like the blue dominus & the 7/5 whale from MH3. It has a subtheme of planeswalkers with Ichormoon Guantlet.
The guys all liked it because it adds a clock to everyone, evenly. I love it because I end up having two main ways to win, through Infect or through the planeswalkers constantly growing each turn. I just wish there were a few more instant spells that gave an infect counter because as of right now, I have to be extremely careful when playing Kaho & exiling the spell.
I recently built Rakdos, the Muscle from Outlaws of Thunder Junction and it really surprised me how easily you can mill people out with that Commander, The only card in the actual deck that references milling is Alter of Dementia which I have used before to get to that end, but I've also milled people out without using it at all. Rakdos exiles off the top of Target players library equal to the mana value of creatures you sacrifice and when you have repeatable sac outlets and stuff like living death or just a really wide board, you can get there pretty easily.
He's actually cool. I don't know why he isn't as popular. I even got the playmat.
Some guy I used to know had a mono blue artifact deck,with no basic lands in it. He would make all of his permanents hexproof,and indestructible. The only thing that terrified him, was Wave of Vitriol.
Neat idea - I'm curious about if this deck can really function when so many of the cards that remove their lands only remove basics and give them the option with "player may search their library" as opposed to forcing them to. With so many groups opposed to certain amounts of land destruction and the ridiculous amount of utility lands now - most people don't run that many basics and the core milling engine (Smeagol) is for any land. We don't seem to currently have many cost effective tools to remove the nonbasics.
Even if it isn't a "may", the opponent can always choose to fail to find
One of my favorite pet cards called sadistic sacrament would work well here!
Smeagol gave our pod the best commander story when they got our first mill victory by killing us out, and then another week won by milling themselves out after reanimating an opponent's lab man effect!
I went the combo route with Smeagol for infinite mill using Nazgul, sac outlets, and landfalls. I've won several times with the deck and it's always a satisfying win because the combos usually take 4-5 pieces to pull off.
You gotta throw in Deadly Cover-up!
wait I built this theme with this commander yesterday
this is great
How does it feel falling into the “unique deck guy” title? Stuff like this is why I watch you ❤
I recently made a knight tribal deck with smeagol and hakkon as the secret commander, smeagol is a surprisingly fun build around
Oh man, I have been wanting to make a deck around this card since I pulled it in the ore release.
You can add voracious varmint
Gotta use -trepanation blade- too
Nice Idea! I think also a good include would be Deadly Cover-Up. You potentially could exile all basics of a type from the library.
Oh that's nasty lol 😂
Need build ratadrabik with nazgul and watch see how easy aristocratic theme with the ring mechanic busted with ratadrabik as commander
Collective Voiage is a force ability. Your opponents can choose to not pay any mana, but they have to search for the basic lands. Because you want them to have fewer lands in play you can pay as much mana as you want. Each deck, even the non-basic havy decks, have at least 5-10 basics, just in case of swords or ramp effects.
/e whoops, I made a mistake. You can always "fail to find" when you're searching in a hidden zone like the library. Nevertheless I let this comment here, if someone else thought the same like me.
They don't need to fail to find, Collective Voyage says "up to X". Any time "up to" is included, 0 can always be the chosen number. So effectively, they can search for zero basic lands if they choose to.
I have been using bitter ordeal on cedh and the card is pure gas if you can turbo it.
wait scion doesn't give it's ability depending on land type, it's on creature colors
Yup came here to say that. It's based on the color of the creature.
He says “so we’re gonna give out creatures both lifelink and trample, so, not bad” 5:18
Seems like he’s aware that it doesn’t care about land types in that way. He just likes the cost reduction you can get!
@@kegantawney "But, man, getting like an island off of somebody would be great, give all our creatures hexproof." 5:19
@@kegantawney listen to what he says just after
Also doesn't give *all* the creatures both Lifelink and Trample. The only creatures that'll get both are Smeagol, DRS and Creakwood Liege(+ its tokens). Everything else will only get one or the other (unless there's some other 2c tokens I'm missing).
"My precious"
Is it milling, because it reveals? Just Like Nadu as non-draw?
technically it isn't milling no. but that doesn't change how the deck works.
kind of cool... i wonder how well it works
Interesting.
What about Geth, Lord of the Vaults?
Uniquely interesting...
Would think you would want Urborg in this.
Hey i made this idea as well!
Oblivion sower
well that's a big duh.
Inb4 some tells you you're being too negative 😂
And this is why I love your channel. You have interesting ways to build decks. Very entertaining!
Eradicate and The End can exile a bunch of basics from opponents' decks if you can animate one of their lands. Maybe requires running suboptimal land aninators, but seems like it fits the theme.
I tried a smeagol mill deck without the extra exile from the library cards and it was too inconsistent because there just aren't enough good "ring tempts you" cards, but I didn't think to otherwise actively remove lands from opponents' decks. That's cool.
Great ideas! Thanks for sharing. "Domain" seems to be very much going against all the tricks you play in order to get lands out of your opponents' decks. What's your feedback from the field on this?
"The ring tempts you"
No thanks, I don't know what that does and I couldn't be bothered to look it up every time I play.
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This game sucks, I have to learn new mechanics!
Once you find out what trample does, do you then have to look it up every time you play?
I dont know. Its interesting but I dont see how it plays as fun. Targeting a single opponent with many of these spells just to focus down one players library at a time seems like you’re going to make yourself the problem.
Great video! Just a small error in the tittle. It should be built, not build
Your vids are super fun and interesting, however on this one, i have onoy ever played against smeagul mill, literally every single person saw this as golgari mill
neverending torment is so funny.... CANT CAST SPELLS FOR THE REST OF THE GAME... insane!
Wowsa, Wave of Vitriol. And here I though green didn't have board wipes! Why am I not running this?
Because 3 and above color decks will scoop on it, they wont run enough basics
If you are doing milling, where is syr Konrad and the dog?
Because he’s trying to win through mill? Not damage?
@@ryanbolson23 but they do win with milling, they just convert mill into damage. And regardless of damage, syr Konrad is just a mill mana sink.
@@brandotheone right, which means he’s winning through damage and isn’t winning by the spirit of mill which is to have your opponents draw from an empty library.
What you are describing isn’t supplemental to mill, it’s pivoting the entire strategy entirely. Which pulls away from his intended vision for the deck.
@@ryanbolson23 milling just means to put cards from the library into the graveyard. You can win by forcing your opponent to draw from an empty library or by weaponazing it. Even if you are hyper focused on winning with the alternate win condition Syr Konrad can help you in that, and can also help you if decking your opponents is not doable.
@@brandotheone is aristocrats a deck that focuses on pinging opponents to death? Or rather is it a deck that focuses on death triggers and pings fit within that established theme?
The answer is the latter. Pings fit well in an aristocratic shell because it fits congruently in the established game plan. Which is using the value gained from death triggers to close out games.
Now back to mill, the game plan is to have your opponents have no cards in library while denying potential resources. At no point in a full mill focused deck will life total be a consideration. Then you play 1-2 cards that suddenly swhich the entire plan on its head. That’s jarring, and for some would be unfun.
Why not just include any good-stuff card that can fit with this commander? Why not run dozens of the best synergies off of EDHrec too? Simple, because he has a very specific theme to win in this deck. He wants to win from mill, not damage.
Once you remove all of their lands it stops milling, this doesn't work bro. Revealed untill is just reveal if no land is found.
reveal until a land is found and put them into graveyard means mill their whole deck if a land isn't found.
The domain thing is interesting i agree, but youre still playing one of the most salty mill commanders out there. Its mill UNTIL i hit a land, so youre milling all my good stuff and then stealing my land from my grave. And now youre gonna run cards that just exile the best things in my library? Who is going to like playing against this deck my brother? Are you okay?