I think the high salt score for Smothering Tithe isn't just about how strong it is, its just the play pattern in any commander game its played in, just a constant stream of "do you wanna pay the 2?" gets real annoying real quick
Opponents would always just "fail to find" when you flash in your Opposition Agent. Controlling the opponent during the search is required so that you can force them to actually "find" something.
I think how often you see a card really is an inherent part of the salt factor though. It's not just how oppressive, but also how ubiquitous. Being blown out by Tabernacle once a year (or decade) is kind of a unique experience, but seeing Dockside, One Ring, and Cyclonic Rift game after game after game is what induces the eye rolling.
Dockside is definitely the most annoying card. It's not that it makes a ton of treasures for the person that cast it, it's that the entire game then becomes "can I copy Dockside", or "can I recur Dockside", "can I flicker Dockside". The entire game just becomes about Dockside. I don't know about banning it, but it's basically the same effect as The One Ring, the whole game starts becoming about The One Ring.
With Rhystic and Smothering tithe specifically, being asked do I pay the 1 or do I pay the 2 over and over again is what ups the salt score significantly. If they just got the effect I know they'd be stronger, but they'd annoy me less
The salt list is a mix of hypothetical salt: stasis, land destruction, and salt from seeing a really strong card a lot: rhystic study, one ring, smothering tithe
A few friends and I learned how to play magic from another one of our friends about a year ago and our introduction to the game was essentially him playing more than half the cards on this list for a couple months straight
My personal salt card is Sol ring. Not because it is super powerful, but the one player getting a 2 mana head start in casual commander has a good chance to snowball, and its all about that one draw.
Maybe opposition agent should say "when your opponent finishes seaching their library, you may choose to exile that card. If so, you may play it, if you dont exile it, then exile to top card of thir library. You may play that card instead." Or something
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I guess the main theme here is: im here to play magic, i hate cards that prevent me from playing magic.
I think the high salt score for Smothering Tithe isn't just about how strong it is, its just the play pattern in any commander game its played in, just a constant stream of "do you wanna pay the 2?" gets real annoying real quick
Only babies cry about Vorinclex in 2024
Opponents would always just "fail to find" when you flash in your Opposition Agent. Controlling the opponent during the search is required so that you can force them to actually "find" something.
I think how often you see a card really is an inherent part of the salt factor though. It's not just how oppressive, but also how ubiquitous. Being blown out by Tabernacle once a year (or decade) is kind of a unique experience, but seeing Dockside, One Ring, and Cyclonic Rift game after game after game is what induces the eye rolling.
Dockside is definitely the most annoying card. It's not that it makes a ton of treasures for the person that cast it, it's that the entire game then becomes "can I copy Dockside", or "can I recur Dockside", "can I flicker Dockside". The entire game just becomes about Dockside. I don't know about banning it, but it's basically the same effect as The One Ring, the whole game starts becoming about The One Ring.
ThOracle wins are too hard to interact with. I can definitely see the case for banning it.
With Rhystic and Smothering tithe specifically, being asked do I pay the 1 or do I pay the 2 over and over again is what ups the salt score significantly. If they just got the effect I know they'd be stronger, but they'd annoy me less
It’s called floating mana lol. Only way it does is if you’re not able to respond to the stack while cauldron is on it. Sounds like this is YOUR ptsd 😢
You can float mana in response to storm cauldron and use it to remove it.
You would be suprised how often Emrakul can be used to support a player with an extra turn to take out the biggest threat.
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The salt list is a mix of hypothetical salt: stasis, land destruction, and salt from seeing a really strong card a lot: rhystic study, one ring, smothering tithe
A few friends and I learned how to play magic from another one of our friends about a year ago and our introduction to the game was essentially him playing more than half the cards on this list for a couple months straight
My personal salt card is Sol ring. Not because it is super powerful, but the one player getting a 2 mana head start in casual commander has a good chance to snowball, and its all about that one draw.
I mean, you could float the mana while the storm cauldron is on the stack, though.
Maybe opposition agent should say "when your opponent finishes seaching their library, you may choose to exile that card. If so, you may play it, if you dont exile it, then exile to top card of thir library. You may play that card instead." Or something
Minor thing, there's one more black sorcery that exiles itself and you gain control of an opponent's turn. Worst fears I think is the name
I’ve had Thassa’s Oracle in my Eligeth self mill deck since 2019. I’m not taking it out but I understand people hate it.
When I heard you say "there's Overburden we're getting warmer" I knew exactly what you were looking for 😂