I have played with various different singers.. With my band I play in now we changed tuning down a half step from E to D# as the singer could not get through a 2 hour gig in standard tuning as he hit his early 40s. The weird thing is that many songs now sound a little to dark for his vocal timbre.. My voice seems to fit tuning the guitar down a half step and then drop the reference pitch down 20 cents to A4 = 435Hz.. this is also the standard we had in Europe before WW2. The french actually protested against the 440Hz standard in the 1950 and wanted to maintain the french Diapason at 435Hz. THe notes in the scale just sits much better with my voice when I tune down to 432Hz.. I tried lower like 430Hz with 12-TET but then the lower notes in the chest area become a bit to deep... At one point both the Vienna and Paris opera was tuning their A4 to 434Hz.. (23-24 cents flat from modern A4).. This is a really nice pitch 434Hz.. It limits going sharp when you push volume in the lower chest range but does not push the upper middle register to high in resonance.. Tuning to 423-424 with 12-TET will probable put you closer to the pitch if Mozart, Händel (422.5Hz) and Beethoven which tend to use other tuning system like meantone.. Meditational music for relaxing and night and before sleeping 432Hz music is more effective than 440Hz tuned music. Peer reviewed articles from Italy has tested 432Hz vs 440Hz. and 432Hz lowers stress factors such as heart rate, respirationen frequency more than 440Hz music.. The dramatic voices in works of Puccini and Verdi works better with pitches between 432Hz and 435Hz than modern 440Hz. The difference is obvious to me.. How the resonance sits in the throat.. I hum naturally with notes closer to A4=432Hz (12-TET) than 440Hz..
Appreciate the video and I agree with you to a large extent. However, when it comes to cymatic imaging courtesy of Chladni plates, 432Hz does appear to have significantly more coherence at all notes, as demonstrated in the TH-cam video titled “432-440Hz Cymatics Frequency experiment - tonoscope”. I’d post the link but I don’t know what your comment policy is on sharing links. Personally, I like to utilise both simultaneously and I’ll explain why: if I pull out the fundamental of a Paiste Sidereal Day gong (97.34Hz G2 / A440) with an appropriately sized flumie, while pulling out the first octave of a 40” Wuhan tam tam gong (fundamental 48Hz G1 / A432 so 1st octave 96Hz) again with a flumie, the rate of binaural beating, i.e. the difference between those two frequencies is, being 1.34Hz, approximately in the middle of the delta range, which very quickly entrains the brain of the listener, in an almost irresistible way, into deep delta relaxation in a matter of minutes or even seconds of being subject to it. So, in my experience, the interaction of the two standards is most significant. You can hear the phenomenon in my latest sound bath video on my TH-cam channel once I start bringing the gongs into the musical journey. Best, Mark
Love this Mark! Thanks so much for commenting. Using both 432 and 440 instruments can be amazing in a sound bath setup. Especially with gongs. gongs really play well with each other (much more than most other instruments) regardless of tuning. We typically have 8+ gongs in our setup and the relation to each other and conversations between them is very dynamic and meditative. In a musical setting, or if coming at a sound bath from a musical angle, mixing 432 and 440 does not work if your ear is tuned for pitch ie. a trained singer. Love this topic! Will check out your sound bath vid! Thanks again Mark.
I have played with various different singers.. With my band I play in now we changed tuning down a half step from E to D# as the singer could not get through a 2 hour gig in standard tuning as he hit his early 40s. The weird thing is that many songs now sound a little to dark for his vocal timbre.. My voice seems to fit tuning the guitar down a half step and then drop the reference pitch down 20 cents to A4 = 435Hz.. this is also the standard we had in Europe before WW2.
The french actually protested against the 440Hz standard in the 1950 and wanted to maintain the french Diapason at 435Hz.
THe notes in the scale just sits much better with my voice when I tune down to 432Hz.. I tried lower like 430Hz with 12-TET but then the lower notes in the chest area become a bit to deep... At one point both the Vienna and Paris opera was tuning their A4 to 434Hz.. (23-24 cents flat from modern A4).. This is a really nice pitch 434Hz.. It limits going sharp when you push volume in the lower chest range but does not push the upper middle register to high in resonance..
Tuning to 423-424 with 12-TET will probable put you closer to the pitch if Mozart, Händel (422.5Hz) and Beethoven which tend to use other tuning system like meantone..
Meditational music for relaxing and night and before sleeping 432Hz music is more effective than 440Hz tuned music. Peer reviewed articles from Italy has tested 432Hz vs 440Hz. and 432Hz lowers stress factors such as heart rate, respirationen frequency more than 440Hz music..
The dramatic voices in works of Puccini and Verdi works better with pitches between 432Hz and 435Hz than modern 440Hz.
The difference is obvious to me.. How the resonance sits in the throat.. I hum naturally with notes closer to A4=432Hz (12-TET) than 440Hz..
Appreciate the video and I agree with you to a large extent. However, when it comes to cymatic imaging courtesy of Chladni plates, 432Hz does appear to have significantly more coherence at all notes, as demonstrated in the TH-cam video titled “432-440Hz Cymatics Frequency experiment - tonoscope”. I’d post the link but I don’t know what your comment policy is on sharing links.
Personally, I like to utilise both simultaneously and I’ll explain why: if I pull out the fundamental of a Paiste Sidereal Day gong (97.34Hz G2 / A440) with an appropriately sized flumie, while pulling out the first octave of a 40” Wuhan tam tam gong (fundamental 48Hz G1 / A432 so 1st octave 96Hz) again with a flumie, the rate of binaural beating, i.e. the difference between those two frequencies is, being 1.34Hz, approximately in the middle of the delta range, which very quickly entrains the brain of the listener, in an almost irresistible way, into deep delta relaxation in a matter of minutes or even seconds of being subject to it.
So, in my experience, the interaction of the two standards is most significant. You can hear the phenomenon in my latest sound bath video on my TH-cam channel once I start bringing the gongs into the musical journey.
Best,
Mark
Love this Mark! Thanks so much for commenting. Using both 432 and 440 instruments can be amazing in a sound bath setup. Especially with gongs. gongs really play well with each other (much more than most other instruments) regardless of tuning. We typically have 8+ gongs in our setup and the relation to each other and conversations between them is very dynamic and meditative. In a musical setting, or if coming at a sound bath from a musical angle, mixing 432 and 440 does not work if your ear is tuned for pitch ie. a trained singer. Love this topic! Will check out your sound bath vid! Thanks again Mark.