@@KeithronPowell I plan on using plugins. Would the Titan 70 be better than a Yamaha DTX6KX? Titan 70 comes with more things but I don't know if they will hold up for as long as Yamaha
If could add anything is. Go to your local music shop and play a few of these kits before purchasing one. I own an alesis dm10 and the cymbals were atrocious. The high hat timing for opening and closing was not even close to opening and closing in time. The crashes and ride only trigger half the time. In what I’ve spent upgrading components that didn’t work very good right out of the box. I could have just bought a better kit.
I have an Alesis Nitro Max, and it smashes my Roland TD11KV into the park regarding drum sounds - there isn't ONE set of toms on the Roland that I'm happy with, and just like the Roland, you have to create your own user kits to create something good. There are plenty of great sounds on the Max, you just need to have a good drum ear to pick them out. The cymbals could do with a few more good crashes, but with pitch control and EQ they work as is. I think the Simmons kits come out with better factory kits, that's what I've picked up, so you don't need to tweak as much, but I'm not happy with most modules, the guys in the R & D deff don't have a good ear for putting good factory kits together, even the high end kits. I listened to a review of the Roland TD - 27K2 the other day and I wasn't impressed - the toms sound too digital and vague. I think the 1st TD - 17 sounded better. I've done a few covers on my channel with my Max and I think it sounds great. People complain about the rack, and it isn't great, but heck even my TD11KV wobbles. When I set my kits up, I use a spirti level to make sure the horizontal cross pieces are 100% level, I also noticed that the rubber boots on the vertical posts were not put on properly and I had to push them on more. Then after a few days I re - tightened everything and after a few weeks checked the Allen screws again. When you do it like that, you'll have less issues - if you watch me play my kit, it doesn't wobble - AT ALL. I hardly play my Roland anymore. I bought the Max because it's light and easy to cart around to gigs and practices, the roland is a tank,and also because I watched as many reviews as I could, and I heard that there were good sounds on the module. I'm not interested in vst's, I want a module that sounds good, I don't want to cart more stuff around. The phone /tablet shelf is rubberised so nothing will fall off. The Bluetooth works flawlessly, the mesh pads feel great. The Hihat pedal is as good as my Roland as is the bass drum pad and pedal. The Nitro Max is lightweight, sounds great and I've had zero issues with this kit. I love it and would have to spend a lot of money to get something that sounded better. I will be making a vdo soon on the user kits I've put together. PS: The Nitro Max is actually a dual zone module, I noticed the stereo jacks when I was putting mine together, and plugged in one of my Roland pads and its dual zone - only the pads on the Max are single zone except the snare - so I reckon in the near future we'll have the Nitro Max II with dual zone pads! 👍🏻
You make some really valid points. One point I keep forgetting to make is that the phone/tablet shelf is not perfect on any drum. Imma have to do a video on it.
Thank you so much for the information! I’m planning to go with the titan 50. One question, does the bass drum of the titan 50 allow a double pedal by its size?
My guitar center currently have a discount on the 1250 for $799. I will use the kit for recording drums in logic for the music I create. Do you recommend the 50, 70, or 1250? Or is there another set you think is better?
I'm a beginner and you replied to my question in another vid that you recommend the 1250 for taller people. I'm going to go to a guitar center to test it out but I'm leaning heavily on the 1250 thanks to your recommendation. Appreciate your help.
While you are there do yourself a solid and try the Titan 70.. try the Alesis too and while you’re at it try the $3400.00 Roland’s.. that way you know better what you really like.
@@paulbfields8284 I will try the Roland, but the issue is the price. I think the Titan 70 or 1250 are more my price range. But I'll def play with the Roland at the store.😁
@@kingfrank01 no I know but since they are sitting there just try them so you have a better point of reference.. hell I can’t afford them either but I’ve played a few Roland sets in my life and they are the standard in Edrums I think..
I just got the Alesis Nitro Max expanded (extra tom and cymbal) on sale at MF $434. I chose it over the Simmons Titan 50 B-EX which is about $50 cheaper. Honestly it was a toss up, I don't think one is better or worse than the other, and I'd be happy with either at this price range. I'll see how it holds up, and if it's worth upgrading the module (if possible). Cheers!
Donner didn't send me that for a review so I didn't mention it. I've never played on it. They just sent me the 200 Max... When they get around to sending me something more up to date I will gladly give it a review.
I wanted to grab the Titan 70 $680 price matched at Guitar Center. But I went with the Nitro Max, PDP Stool, Vic Firth Nylon Tip Drumstick, and LiveWire Cable for $644 total.
Titan 70 probably because of the price. theres even an argument that can be made that the Titan 70 is BETTER than the 1250. but if youre someone who is very serious about authentic-acoustic feel, the 1250 is the way to go. but even the 70 is a force to be reckoned with in that regard. watch/read some reviews and above all, go with your gut!
got offer on 1250 for $719.99 vs 70 for $ 680 hence confused. I do see that 1250 has bigger hardware. I am looking for long term usage and not planning to upgrade any for at least next 3-4 years and This will be my First eDrum kit@@Jcage22
Exactly what I experienced when I recently bought the 1250 and sent it back… the 1250 is exactly for one wanting authentic acoustic drums.. and they deliver on that count. The 70 is a badass version of the 50’s…
I haven’t had the opportunity to play the Yamaha but i remember doing a spec comparison of one against the Titan 50 and it didn’t compete. Maybe they’ve updated it. 🤷🏽♂️ I try to only speak about what I’ve actually reviewed. If Yamaha decides to send me one… or if Guitar Center does … I review one.
Get the yamaha... The simmons titan 70 samples sound like it is playing the same sample at every velocity, but just changing in volume. It makes for a very poorly dynamic feel. The yamaha you can close your eyes and it sounds and feels better than most high end rolands (except for the pads being small). Td50x is my personal and favorite ekit. Yamaha dtx6 series however are the best value innthe market. @keithronpowell, give the yamaha a shot. It's like the titan 70, while running a vst at the same time (it has those dynamics the simmons kits are missing)
@@SimpleAndyRockI think there are different stroke for different folks pardon the pun. I never did get to play any Yamahas but I know they make great schitt. I don’t find “the dynamic” to be a problem w Simmons.. I’ve played a few Roland’s, the standard I think, and for this price point $700ish… Simmons is hard to beat. I’ve played them live (small party gig stuff) and they sound great..
U have said in a past video and dont mark my words but something like it may seem that ur just a bigger fan of simmons than alesis. Its safe to say thats true. U always choose simmons over alesis. I think Simmons is throwing u a bone or something because ur always giving them better reviews than Alesis. And what do u know in the end u talk about the simmons being the best.
Or… Simmons is better… how about this.. have you watched the videos where I go spec for spec? The ones where I provide points? If you do you’ll see I’m being beyond fair. Not to mention… if you walk into GC where people are actually paid by THE OWNER OF SIMMONS! You’ll see they will only push Alesis. I don’t get anything special in fact, every drum I’ve received was free! GC provides both the simmons and the Alesis for review… if I’m getting both what is the advantage to choose Simmons? The truth is Alesis drums are over hyped! In the store they demo the $2600 drum and say, “See, Alesis better than Simmons.” Then people go and buy the cheaper Alesis drum without giving the Simmons a fair shot. A $2500 drum should be better than a $700 set. But what about equal drums? Now what happens? So, yep I talk about apples to apples. Pound for pound Simmons is better! The stats suggest it. If it weren’t I’d say so.
Alesis does often get a bad rap, especially when they released the Strike Pro - it had too many issues, and even the SE has had a few issues, but it certainly sounds GREAT! They messed up by releasing those kits too soon without checking them out properly. It was a bad move. But they're not one of the biggest instrument companies in the world for nothing. They make great stuff - I had an Alesis Control Pad with my Roland TD - 6V via midi and never had an issue.
Man my biggest regret is buying the first edition ded 200. It’s ass. The cymbals suck. The kick tower sucks. The brain sucks. Like I wish I could go back in time and save for two more paychecks and get something else. And now I’m trying to sell it and no one wants it. All the TH-cam people that reviewed it looking back at it. They where clearly sponsored and talking out there ass. It sucks.
😂 I’m not laughing at you but at what you said. I admit I try to not watch a lot of reviewers because some are about pleasing the company rather than the community.
You are reviewing drum KITS. Not a single drum. Grrrrrr, you're driving me crazy calling a full drum kit, a drum! And, calling a drum rack a "cage"... dude... c'mon. 😂🎉
Thanks so much for the review. Clutch info, and coming from an actual drummer, I feel like it's super valuable.
Thanks
Exactly what I needed for my home recording studio! You're da man dawg!❤😎👍🎸🤘
Which did you get?
Got the Titan 70 a while back due to your vids...Amazing kit for the money if ya know what you are doing it is bad ass! Thanks!
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@@KeithronPowell I plan on using plugins. Would the Titan 70 be better than a Yamaha DTX6KX? Titan 70 comes with more things but I don't know if they will hold up for as long as Yamaha
Just got a Titan 70 for my birthday! I love that thing!
Happy birthday and congrats
@@KeithronPowell thank you!!!
If could add anything is. Go to your local music shop and play a few of these kits before purchasing one. I own an alesis dm10 and the cymbals were atrocious. The high hat timing for opening and closing was not even close to opening and closing in time. The crashes and ride only trigger half the time. In what I’ve spent upgrading components that didn’t work very good right out of the box. I could have just bought a better kit.
I got my T70 two ago and bought an additional crash cymbal waiting to unbox soon ….. thanks for the advice
Awesome
I recently got the Titian for Christmas after watching your video. It’s as good as advertised
I got my first ever EKit Titan 20 this past Christmas too, pretty impressed with it so far!
Awesome
Awesome!
I have an Alesis Nitro Max, and it smashes my Roland TD11KV into the park regarding drum sounds - there isn't ONE set of toms on the Roland that I'm happy with, and just like the Roland, you have to create your own user kits to create something good. There are plenty of great sounds on the Max, you just need to have a good drum ear to pick them out. The cymbals could do with a few more good crashes, but with pitch control and EQ they work as is.
I think the Simmons kits come out with better factory kits, that's what I've picked up, so you don't need to tweak as much, but I'm not happy with most modules, the guys in the R & D deff don't have a good ear for putting good factory kits together, even the high end kits.
I listened to a review of the Roland TD - 27K2 the other day and I wasn't impressed - the toms sound too digital and vague. I think the 1st TD - 17 sounded better.
I've done a few covers on my channel with my Max and I think it sounds great.
People complain about the rack, and it isn't great, but heck even my TD11KV wobbles.
When I set my kits up, I use a spirti level to make sure the horizontal cross pieces are 100% level, I also noticed that the rubber boots on the vertical posts were not put on properly and I had to push them on more. Then after a few days I re - tightened everything and after a few weeks checked the Allen screws again. When you do it like that, you'll have less issues - if you watch me play my kit, it doesn't wobble - AT ALL. I hardly play my Roland anymore.
I bought the Max because it's light and easy to cart around to gigs and practices, the roland is a tank,and also because I watched as many reviews as I could, and I heard that there were good sounds on the module.
I'm not interested in vst's, I want a module that sounds good, I don't want to cart more stuff around.
The phone /tablet shelf is rubberised so nothing will fall off. The Bluetooth works flawlessly, the mesh pads feel great. The Hihat pedal is as good as my Roland as is the bass drum pad and pedal.
The Nitro Max is lightweight, sounds great and I've had zero issues with this kit.
I love it and would have to spend a lot of money to get something that sounded better.
I will be making a vdo soon on the user kits I've put together.
PS: The Nitro Max is actually a dual zone module, I noticed the stereo jacks when I was putting mine together, and plugged in one of my Roland pads and its dual zone - only the pads on the Max are single zone except the snare - so I reckon in the near future we'll have the Nitro Max II with dual zone pads! 👍🏻
You make some really valid points. One point I keep forgetting to make is that the phone/tablet shelf is not perfect on any drum. Imma have to do a video on it.
@@KeithronPowell Thanks! 👍🏻😊
Thank you so much for the information! I’m planning to go with the titan 50. One question, does the bass drum of the titan 50 allow a double pedal by its size?
Good choice and it sure does
Thx for this review…I’m 99% grabbing one of these …old man gonna attempt to play😎…at least get some minor exercise
Awesome! It’s never too late
I’d like to see how the Donner DED 500 and Alexis Command Mesh compare to the Titan 70
If I can get my hands on the three it’s on!
You can buy Simmson only in the states, not in Europe...I dont know that reason
True
Fun fact: Simmons is a european (UK) brand 😂 can't buy in Europe though 🤦♂️
How tall does the Titan 70 go in comparison to the nitro mesh? Great video
The 70 is slightly taller. They’re closer to being even.
Deal killers for me: 1. Machine gunny/not natural snare roll. 2. Wobbly kick drum pad. 3. Flimsy rack. 4. Poor trigger accuracy. 5. Really digital/unrealistic drum sounds.
Same here
My guitar center currently have a discount on the 1250 for $799. I will use the kit for recording drums in logic for the music I create. Do you recommend the 50, 70, or 1250? Or is there another set you think is better?
I think I mention in this video… I have the 1250 in my studio. If I replaced it I’d go Titan 70 but… it’s been in my studio since it came out.
I'm a beginner and you replied to my question in another vid that you recommend the 1250 for taller people. I'm going to go to a guitar center to test it out but I'm leaning heavily on the 1250 thanks to your recommendation. Appreciate your help.
Awesome
Wish I had an affiliate link
While you are there do yourself a solid and try the Titan 70.. try the Alesis too and while you’re at it try the $3400.00 Roland’s.. that way you know better what you really like.
@@paulbfields8284 I will try the Roland, but the issue is the price. I think the Titan 70 or 1250 are more my price range.
But I'll def play with the Roland at the store.😁
@@kingfrank01 no I know but since they are sitting there just try them so you have a better point of reference.. hell I can’t afford them either but I’ve played a few Roland sets in my life and they are the standard in Edrums I think..
I like Alesis the best
Everyone’s entitled to be wrong once in a while. 😂😂😂 jk! The Alesis sounds are just too over produced for me
I’m actually 11 and play for my church😀
I actually just picked up a used Alesis Surge. Steel frame. Still feeling it out.
@@jonathamast same but i play piano and guitar and i wanna learn drum for my church
Just subbed to your channel. Excellent reviews!
Thanks
I got my 7 year old the Alesis for Christmas. I didn’t want to spend a lot when he is just beginning and has never played.
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Man, that Aero company should just give it up now - between that and that guitar, they're just getting destroyed by reviews.
I was gonna ask them to send me the guitar but after they saw my Video on the drums sticks…. They stopped talking to me.
Haha, yeah, they threatened at lease one other TH-camr with a lawsuit after his review.@@KeithronPowell
@@MattTee1975 man… if they did that to me I would make a video… not to mention… my first 8 videos probably would’ve gotten me sued.
Great information thank you sir for the content. Appreciate it.
My pleasure!
I literally knew before i started the video that u woukd choose Simmons.
Yep
You definitely work for Simmons
First… I am a finance manager at a Dealership. I have played multiple drums and I only say what I think about a product.
With the expansion slots, could you get bigger toms if you wanted them? Like could you swap out SD 1250 Toms for the 8 inch ones?
Yes
I can get donner ded 200 or Alesis in Japan.. what do you recommend?
Alesis
Im between ded-200 and nitro max, i trying to stay under $500 which one is better or are there anymore options?
I’d go with the Alesis
I just got the Alesis Nitro Max expanded (extra tom and cymbal) on sale at MF $434. I chose it over the Simmons Titan 50 B-EX which is about $50 cheaper. Honestly it was a toss up, I don't think one is better or worse than the other, and I'd be happy with either at this price range.
I'll see how it holds up, and if it's worth upgrading the module (if possible).
Cheers!
I see you didn't mention the DED 500 Pro which came out in 2023 and seems like it would be worth a review compared to the older 200 series?
Donner didn't send me that for a review so I didn't mention it. I've never played on it. They just sent me the 200 Max... When they get around to sending me something more up to date I will gladly give it a review.
I wanted to grab the Titan 70 $680 price matched at Guitar Center.
But I went with the Nitro Max, PDP Stool, Vic Firth Nylon Tip Drumstick, and LiveWire Cable for $644 total.
I still would’ve went T70. So many more options
Totally agree
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO! The Titan 70 rocks!
70 is the place to be at this price point and at even higher comparable…
Can you play metal on titan 70? cuz im about to buy it
Don’t see why not.
I am looking to buy a nitro pro, how does that compare?
Haven’t reviewed it. But from what I can tell they didn’t change the sounds so… it’s mostly a cosmetic update.
@@KeithronPowell no worries! I actually ended up buying the Titan 70 :)
Do u think the alesis strike pro se vs the simmons titan 70 is a fare comparison
Not at all… $2600 vs $800 … 👨🏽💻
nt money wise but overall as a kit t0 have@@KeithronPowell
With current 1250 deal. Which one you recommend to buy 1250 or Titan 70 ?
Titan 70 probably because of the price. theres even an argument that can be made that the Titan 70 is BETTER than the 1250. but if youre someone who is very serious about authentic-acoustic feel, the 1250 is the way to go. but even the 70 is a force to be reckoned with in that regard. watch/read some reviews and above all, go with your gut!
What ☝🏽he said!
got offer on 1250 for $719.99 vs 70 for $ 680 hence confused. I do see that 1250 has bigger hardware. I am looking for long term usage and not planning to upgrade any for at least next 3-4 years and This will be my First eDrum kit@@Jcage22
Exactly what I experienced when I recently bought the 1250 and sent it back… the 1250 is exactly for one wanting authentic acoustic drums.. and they deliver on that count. The 70 is a badass version of the 50’s…
Got the Titan 70 a while back due to your vids...Amazing kit for the money if ya know what you are doing it is bad ass! Thanks!
The Simmons Titan 70 is the best of the lower tier e-kits, in my opinion. I'm buying the Yamaha DTX6-whatever... ha ha.
I haven’t had the opportunity to play the Yamaha but i remember doing a spec comparison of one against the Titan 50 and it didn’t compete. Maybe they’ve updated it. 🤷🏽♂️ I try to only speak about what I’ve actually reviewed. If Yamaha decides to send me one… or if Guitar Center does … I review one.
Get the yamaha...
The simmons titan 70 samples sound like it is playing the same sample at every velocity, but just changing in volume. It makes for a very poorly dynamic feel.
The yamaha you can close your eyes and it sounds and feels better than most high end rolands (except for the pads being small).
Td50x is my personal and favorite ekit. Yamaha dtx6 series however are the best value innthe market.
@keithronpowell, give the yamaha a shot. It's like the titan 70, while running a vst at the same time (it has those dynamics the simmons kits are missing)
@@SimpleAndyRockI think there are different stroke for different folks pardon the pun. I never did get to play any Yamahas but I know they make great schitt. I don’t find “the dynamic” to be a problem w Simmons.. I’ve played a few Roland’s, the standard I think, and for this price point $700ish… Simmons is hard to beat. I’ve played them live (small party gig stuff) and they sound great..
Got the Titan 70 a while back due to your vids...Amazing kit for the money if ya know what you are doing it is bad ass! Thanks!
is any Roland starting kit better than any of these?
I haven’t tested any Roland so I don’t have an opinion of them.
I love Donner and Alesis.
Then you’ll want to spend your life with Simmons. It’s way better than these two.
U have said in a past video and dont mark my words but something like it may seem that ur just a bigger fan of simmons than alesis. Its safe to say thats true. U always choose simmons over alesis. I think Simmons is throwing u a bone or something because ur always giving them better reviews than Alesis. And what do u know in the end u talk about the simmons being the best.
Or… Simmons is better… how about this.. have you watched the videos where I go spec for spec? The ones where I provide points? If you do you’ll see I’m being beyond fair. Not to mention… if you walk into GC where people are actually paid by THE OWNER OF SIMMONS! You’ll see they will only push Alesis. I don’t get anything special in fact, every drum I’ve received was free! GC provides both the simmons and the Alesis for review… if I’m getting both what is the advantage to choose Simmons? The truth is Alesis drums are over hyped! In the store they demo the $2600 drum and say, “See, Alesis better than Simmons.” Then people go and buy the cheaper Alesis drum without giving the Simmons a fair shot. A $2500 drum should be better than a $700 set. But what about equal drums? Now what happens? So, yep I talk about apples to apples. Pound for pound Simmons is better! The stats suggest it. If it weren’t I’d say so.
Alesis does often get a bad rap, especially when they released the Strike Pro - it had too many issues, and even the SE has had a few issues, but it certainly sounds GREAT! They messed up by releasing those kits too soon without checking them out properly. It was a bad move. But they're not one of the biggest instrument companies in the world for nothing. They make great stuff - I had an Alesis Control Pad with my Roland TD - 6V via midi and never had an issue.
Man my biggest regret is buying the first edition ded 200. It’s ass. The cymbals suck. The kick tower sucks. The brain sucks. Like I wish I could go back in time and save for two more paychecks and get something else. And now I’m trying to sell it and no one wants it. All the TH-cam people that reviewed it looking back at it. They where clearly sponsored and talking out there ass. It sucks.
😂 I’m not laughing at you but at what you said. I admit I try to not watch a lot of reviewers because some are about pleasing the company rather than the community.
too much waffle 'you know what i mean'?
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xD recalibrate drums
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You are reviewing drum KITS. Not a single drum. Grrrrrr, you're driving me crazy calling a full drum kit, a drum! And, calling a drum rack a "cage"... dude... c'mon. 😂🎉
The rack cage again! 😂 I’m not sure where your from but I grew up hearing them being interchangeable. Now the plural single thing. 😂😂😂
Semantics.. we old people understand what Keith is referring too. If you really want to go back we called them “drum sets” not “kits” in the 60’s 😂🤪🥳
I still call it a set. Kit just seems to haphazard to me.