THAT IS THE REAL HONEST TRUTH ABOUT HOW MOST ARTIST (ESPECIALLY FEMALES) ARE TREATED IN THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT FIELD. LOADS JUST KEEP MOST HORRIFIC THINGS TO THEMSELVES. LIKE DOING SHOWS AND NOT GETTING ONE SINGLE DIME. EVERYONE GETS PAID BUT THE ARTIST. IT IS A FORM OF 'PIMPING'! THAT IS WHY YOU SEE SO MANY ARTIST THAT HAVE TALENT ARE ON STAGES WITH UNDERWEAR AND BED TIME CLOTHING ON!!! PIMPING!!!
Princess reminds me of being a teenager working in Woolworths behind the record counter playing her records. It's so good to hear that shes still in the music industry.
Yes, excellent voice indeed.. But she needed to have changed. Music change and she needed to change with the times. Sometimes an artist needs to trust the producers and people behind him instead of insisting on their inputs. Rihanna, Adele, Bieber, Alicia keys, Mariah Carrey, etc continue to be successful because they don't write all their songs but depend on top song writers to create for them. The best tunes are shopped to them. That's what princess with her great voice should have aspired for. Great songs from others she can perform with a few of her own creations filling up an album.
To me, Princess's work with SAW was their best. It was different from everything they were doing and fitted her voice well. To this day I still listen to her debut album, which is excellent. Pete Warterman once said he liked her and would still work with her again, as long as her brother Don was kept away. He detested the guy. He also said that Don wanted to turn her into a female Prince, whereas SAW saw her as a much softer figure. I believe the songs from the 2nd album weren't big hits because they sounded like everybody else's records, unlike the singles from the 1st one, which were more distinctive, although still rn'b. By the way, I LOVE the artwork for the fist album. It's just her face, but she looks so good that I find the photo quite hypnotic. I wish her all the best.
@@donovanheslop8741 Set the record straight, then. 🙂What happened? To this day I think she's the best artist that ever worked with SAW. I love the debut album and still listen to it.
This was and still is my fave soul dance tune to date (say im your no 1) stunned at watching this so much I never knew, but so glad Desiree’s still making great music, gonna find what I been missing, thankyou, Russ UK
“I’ll Keep On Loving You” was played to death on EastEnders. Same with Five Star, Total Contrast and 52nd Street tracks. Somebody in the production crew appreciated UK R&B music at the time, and I applaud whoever they were.
I grew up listening to all this artists in the 80s to me will always be the greatest era Soul, funk, Jazz, Electro, rap, heavy metal, indie, punk, Latino fusion found its own direction etc
@jd49631 so true about UK R&B on early Eastenders. Occasional references were made to the music by the likes of Wicksy. Another track from that era that was often played in the background was the excellent "No Conversation" by View From The Hill 👌🏾 Nowadays, they seem to have a revival reggae specialist on the production team 😅
Thanks for the info and facts on Princess, she is a class singer and performer. For me her best songs were “Say I am your number 1” After the love has gone” and “Red Hot” Dope tracks🔥🔥 🙏🏽👍🏽
I'm shocked at the way she was treated . Especially when you find out that the artist that wanted Say I'm Your Number One was Kylie Minogue. (I've always loved the video for that song because it is like having a time machine going back into what London looked like all those years ago) I didn't know there were any albums after her debut even though I looked over the years. It's such a sad shame really, Princess, Stock, Aitken and Waterman and the public all missed out. She was easily the best vocalist Stock, Aitken and Waterman ever had.
She was so good. Loved her. Still got the album and singles. I really didn't like Stock Aitken and Waterman but loved her. So typical of record companies to treat her that way. Its kind of the norm really. She has a Facebook page now.
I liked Princess. I think Say I'm Your Number One was her finest hour because it was a very good song, very well written. Despite the drum machine / synth elements, the chord changes and modulation were very classical in their essence. Her voice was stunning. The follow-up songs never quite cut it.
MMMAAANNN... This bought back some GREAT Music Memories of 80s New York City for Me. The Graphics firm I worked for was right down the hall from Next Plateau Records. Used to run into Eddie O'Loughlin often. And at times, he would pass on some records to me. And asked what I thought of them. I dated a Woman who worked for PolyGram Records. She would give me records also. It was through one of them (memory is a bit fogged on this) that I got copies of "SAY I'M YOUR NUMBER ONE" and "AFTER THE LOVE HAS GONE. Mel And Kim. I also have their 12" singles. If you can correct me on this, I also recall Princess being with a group called "STARGUARD" (or something to that effect). The only thing I can vaguely remember is the record cover of her posing with a guitar and the band in the background. This video just happened to be on my TH-cam feed page. GREAT JOB! Thanks for bringing back the memories.
i was in middle school' on the west of Detroit when, say i'am your nu'1'' came out ' in 1985 Dec'' i fell in love whit the song and still have the record'' put away ,not a scratch on it'' i didnt know after 1990'', she was still making song's until i watch this''' nice to know she live,s in NY', now'''
I think she was one of the great vocalists out there. "Say I'm your Number 1" was an outstanding song, and she produced an outstanding vocal performance, but then we stumble into where it went wrong. I hear all the talk about contracts and record labels etc.., but the elephant in the room is that the songs she came up with following that were well produced, but they were not good songs, they were poor by any standard, and that is the simple reason they didn't sell. If she had teamed up with a good songwriter, we would be telling a very different story here. You can be the best singer in the world, but if the songs are not good, you will struggle..., and that seems to me what happened here.. Just my opinion. She is an outstanding talent.
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I love this woman and her song “Say I’m your number 1” clearly shows her vocal skill and the great beat! But one question, in her latest interview with the guy overlooking the lake she has a very obvious overbite that she doesn’t have in any of her videos. What happened to her beautiful tooth?
So many of these R & B Divas got the short end of the stick. Shannon (Let The Music Play) never got paid, and I saw a Documentary about Disco and so many of the ladies saw their careers go downhill when disco died down in 1979. Anita Ward (Ring My Bell), Thelma Houston (Don't Leave Me This Way), also many of them sang for their supper performing at Gay Rights Shows like Evelyn "Champagne" King.
Wow I'm hooked thanks for exposing me to 🇬🇧 urban artists never heard of her... cool story 😎 say do story Lynden David hall and Ephraim Lewis may they rip 🙏🏾 🪦 🥺🤧
The first album was fantastic a true classic. Such a shame that she decided to move on for the second album as it was imho rubbish. I have only ever played it once.
I loved say I’m your my No1 and after the love has gone, they were very soulful! The rest sound like typical SAW pop! She suited slower balards. Shame as I think she was mis managed by the sound of it
Now i HEARD of this artist when i was 12 ,but when PRINCE was at his 80's Glory ,the name "Princess" sounded very reductive(i wouldn't have gone with THAT name in the 80's, SRS Princess is a better handle) if that's the word i'm looking for ,never really heard of her tracks until now...
This is a strange video! Princess stuck in a warehouse, while a separate storyline with another white guy and a light-skin Black girl is playing? You're right that PWL/SAW had moved on to promote Mel & Kim as their "minority" act. After that it would be Sinitta.
those songs she recorded after say I’m your #1. were just horrible 😔 she should’ve searched for better material to record she had a very strong soulful singing voice !
@@Sephsaysso I met her at Ronnie Scott's mmmm, 1991,2 , she sang Southern Freeze and I thought "God, she sounds like the original singer ,only after someone said She is ! Freeze on that Debut album , well most I didn't at the time appreciate as it's Jazz Funk instrumental, "Flying High" not sure if Ingrid sang on that ? But i dusted off the cobwebs and spun the album and it's timeless ,bare in mind we went into the late 90s with Eg bands like "Incognito" and Brand New Heavies , hence Acid Jazz , so I'd say that album by Freeze was way ahead of steam , but I've often wondered where she is now , great Chanel btw love it ❤️
Really? Honestly I took it as her brother having her best interest especially considering what was happening behind the scenes. But that’s just me maybe 🤔
Seph I seee youu lady, great job!!
Thank you so so much Princess!!
Wicked!! xx
Yo Princess! :)
So sad that she was treated so badly. Great voice and presence. Glad she is still performing.
THAT IS THE REAL HONEST TRUTH ABOUT HOW MOST ARTIST (ESPECIALLY FEMALES) ARE TREATED IN THE MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT FIELD. LOADS JUST KEEP MOST HORRIFIC THINGS TO THEMSELVES. LIKE DOING SHOWS AND NOT GETTING ONE SINGLE DIME. EVERYONE GETS PAID BUT THE ARTIST. IT IS A FORM OF 'PIMPING'! THAT IS WHY YOU SEE SO MANY ARTIST THAT HAVE TALENT ARE ON STAGES WITH UNDERWEAR AND BED TIME CLOTHING ON!!! PIMPING!!!
She was absolutely fantastic. Especially “after the love has gone” ❤ I still listen to her all the time.
It is an excellent song.
Princess reminds me of being a teenager working in Woolworths behind the record counter playing her records. It's so good to hear that shes still in the music industry.
Right i worked at topshop..i wish i could goo right back..the world as gone mad now
Those first 3 tunes are classics, I still listen to them. 😉
True talk 💯💯💯
Same ❤️
I absolutely loved her music. Still do. After the love has gone is still my fave to this day. Memories
"Number One" is my favorite song from her. I discovered it here on YT years ago after watching a documentary on Stock, Aitken & Waterman
She has such a beautiful powerful voice
Yes, excellent voice indeed.. But she needed to have changed. Music change and she needed to change with the times. Sometimes an artist needs to trust the producers and people behind him instead of insisting on their inputs. Rihanna, Adele, Bieber, Alicia keys, Mariah Carrey, etc continue to be successful because they don't write all their songs but depend on top song writers to create for them. The best tunes are shopped to them. That's what princess with her great voice should have aspired for. Great songs from others she can perform with a few of her own creations filling up an album.
I got familiar with Princess back in 85 when her vids Say I'm Your Number One and After the Love were in heavy rotation on Video Soul on BET.
Huge song
I remember Princess and her music is fantastic!! She came thru doing the time when British R &B was awsome!!!
Brilliant news she's still making music.....Love her voice and still listen to her in 2023...God Bless.xx
VINTAGE MUSIC DOES NOT GET OLD, IT GETS BETTER!!!! YOUR FANS STILL LOVE YOU PRINCESS!!!! You still got me answering you,
YOU'RE MY #1
Always loved her voice. I bought this album! She is still on my playlist
To me, Princess's work with SAW was their best. It was different from everything they were doing and fitted her voice well. To this day I still listen to her debut album, which is excellent.
Pete Warterman once said he liked her and would still work with her again, as long as her brother Don was kept away. He detested the guy. He also said that Don wanted to turn her into a female Prince, whereas SAW saw her as a much softer figure. I believe the songs from the 2nd album weren't big hits because they sounded like everybody else's records, unlike the singles from the 1st one, which were more distinctive, although still rn'b.
By the way, I LOVE the artwork for the fist album. It's just her face, but she looks so good that I find the photo quite hypnotic.
I wish her all the best.
Really, that's interesting. Don't believe everything you hear.
@@donovanheslop8741 Set the record straight, then. 🙂What happened? To this day I think she's the best artist that ever worked with SAW. I love the debut album and still listen to it.
@@JCesar-xf2bk I AGREE with you roman poerson.She was bloody good.
@@wesleypresley1000 Yes, she was. Only this week I was listening to her debut album on Amazon Music. It's still great.
My childhood memories!!! 😢 loved Princess!!
I really love her. So beautiful and talented. Blessing to the Royal Princess. ❤️
Princess was a Simply Ravishing Woman and an Amazing Musical Artist!!!
A stunning voice & music that never ages !
This was and still is my fave soul dance tune to date (say im your no 1) stunned at watching this so much I never knew, but so glad Desiree’s still making great music, gonna find what I been missing, thankyou, Russ UK
“I’ll Keep On Loving You” was played to death on EastEnders. Same with Five Star, Total Contrast and 52nd Street tracks. Somebody in the production crew appreciated UK R&B music at the time, and I applaud whoever they were.
I used to love Five Star!
I grew up listening to all this artists in the 80s to me will always be the greatest era Soul, funk, Jazz, Electro, rap, heavy metal, indie, punk, Latino fusion found its own direction etc
@jd49631 so true about UK R&B on early Eastenders. Occasional references were made to the music by the likes of Wicksy. Another track from that era that was often played in the background was the excellent "No Conversation" by View From The Hill 👌🏾
Nowadays, they seem to have a revival reggae specialist on the production team 😅
Seph Don Heslop here great job, a few inaccuracies but over all pretty accurate and great research. You unvovered some info eveb I was unaware of.
Thank you so much. My apologies for any inaccuracies. This means a lot, thank you 😊
It’s good to see you back👍🏾 I think this Princess video topic was long overdue, I do remember her and wondered what happened #(wow I feel old)😆
Thank you 😊 It feels good to be back!
Oh 100% it was definitely long overdue! 😂
Her classic "Say I'm Your Number One" still sounds fresh
Brilliant video, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this amazing account of Princess's journey. Princess is and always will be an amazing artist 😊
Great Video. Say I'm you're number One was the first song I bought as a kid. Still love it.
For many years I have wondered what ever happened to the very beautiful Princess...give thanks for your work...keep it up 💯💯💯
I love this woman’s voice!!!! IT’s messed up how negative situations can stop a talented artist’s career!!! She’s the truth 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hey Princess, Great to see you. You were awesome back in the 80s! Any chance of a come back?
Welcome back. Your channel's great, I love that you analyse artists that are quite overlooked.
Thank you so much! It’s good to be back 😊
thank you for sharing info about Princess and her journey in the music industry
I grew up listening to Princess in the 80's. Amazing story of how adversity can be overcome.
Black people are always supposed to be grateful, and sacrifice their integrity.
Thanks for the info and facts on Princess, she is a class singer and performer. For me her best songs were “Say I am your number 1” After the love has gone” and “Red Hot” Dope tracks🔥🔥 🙏🏽👍🏽
I'm shocked at the way she was treated . Especially when you find out that the artist that wanted Say I'm Your Number One was Kylie Minogue. (I've always loved the video for that song because it is like having a time machine going back into what London looked like all those years ago)
I didn't know there were any albums after her debut even though I looked over the years.
It's such a sad shame really, Princess, Stock, Aitken and Waterman and the public all missed out.
She was easily the best vocalist Stock, Aitken and Waterman ever had.
She was so good. Loved her. Still got the album and singles. I really didn't like Stock Aitken and Waterman but loved her. So typical of record companies to treat her that way. Its kind of the norm really. She has a Facebook page now.
I liked Princess. I think Say I'm Your Number One was her finest hour because it was a very good song, very well written. Despite the drum machine / synth elements, the chord changes and modulation were very classical in their essence. Her voice was stunning. The follow-up songs never quite cut it.
Life-ling fan of Princess. Amazing one-of-a-kind voice
MMMAAANNN...
This bought back some GREAT Music Memories of 80s New York City for Me. The Graphics firm I worked for was right down the hall from Next Plateau Records. Used to run into Eddie O'Loughlin often. And at times, he would pass on some records to me. And asked what I thought of them. I dated a Woman who worked for PolyGram Records. She would give me records also. It was through one of them (memory is a bit fogged on this) that I got copies of "SAY I'M YOUR NUMBER ONE" and "AFTER THE LOVE HAS GONE.
Mel And Kim. I also have their 12" singles.
If you can correct me on this, I also recall Princess being with a group called "STARGUARD" (or something to that effect). The only thing I can vaguely remember is the record cover of her posing with a guitar and the band in the background.
This video just happened to be on my TH-cam feed page.
GREAT JOB!
Thanks for bringing back the memories.
Yess I wondered where she was I was so young when this song Say I'm your number one came out 😊❤
i was in middle school' on the west of Detroit when, say i'am your nu'1'' came out ' in 1985 Dec'' i fell in love whit the song and still have the record'' put away ,not a scratch on it'' i didnt know after 1990'', she was still making song's until i watch this''' nice to know she live,s in NY', now'''
Why No interview from Princes Herself???
I had a mad crush on Princess back in the day. ❤
So beautiful and talented lady❤. We love your music and we 're waiting for a 2024 hit😊 in 80s style.
It's beautiful to see a brother supporting his sister through the dark and very trying times .
Princess LETS GO 💎💎💎💎💎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!
A shame she didn’t become bigger!
But loving the videos,..please keep up the good work. 👍
I think she was one of the great vocalists out there. "Say I'm your Number 1" was an outstanding song, and she produced an outstanding vocal performance, but then we stumble into where it went wrong. I hear all the talk about contracts and record labels etc.., but the elephant in the room is that the songs she came up with following that were well produced, but they were not good songs, they were poor by any standard, and that is the simple reason they didn't sell. If she had teamed up with a good songwriter, we would be telling a very different story here. You can be the best singer in the world, but if the songs are not good, you will struggle..., and that seems to me what happened here.. Just my opinion. She is an outstanding talent.
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My 7 year old boy just chose "Say I'm Your Number One" from my USB stick in the car. The kids love it.
The Princess has been along way to for a great tunes of experiences. Well done!! 👏🏿 👏🏿 👏🏿 👏🏿 👏🏿 👏🏿
Thank you so much 😊
@@Sephsaysso Your welcome, great to see you back again. 😊
Love your content. You have such a nice engaging delivery.
Great video!
She was the UKs answer to Jam & Lewis/S.O.S. Band and Alexander O’Neal.
I love this woman and her song “Say I’m your number 1” clearly shows her vocal skill and the great beat!
But one question, in her latest interview with the guy overlooking the lake she has a very obvious overbite that she doesn’t have in any of her videos. What happened to her beautiful tooth?
So many of these R & B Divas got the short end of the stick. Shannon (Let The Music Play) never got paid, and I saw a Documentary about Disco and so many of the ladies saw their careers go downhill when disco died down in 1979. Anita Ward (Ring My Bell), Thelma Houston (Don't Leave Me This Way), also many of them sang for their supper performing at Gay Rights Shows like Evelyn "Champagne" King.
Such an awesome video!
Thank you so much 😊 Really glad you enjoyed the video!
Very interesting. Thank you.
My child hood song good memories
" love this music 🎶 !" ( going to lie down for a afternoon sleep 😴 💤 😪
I always thought Mica Paris sung 'say im your number 1' 😮😳🤯
This was really interesting. Very informative.
She had 2 hits, after the love is gone, and say I'm your number one.
Say in your no 1 has to be in my top of the 80’s singles.
Say im your number ... was Princess's biggest song to me ... I have a track i would luv to do with her .Blessings
Excellent commentary and information.
Nice one 👍🏾
Thank you 😊
Great job my sister.
Please ld love you to do something on Dazzle. Two British 80s sisters soul singers.
Princess releases a new single Feb 14th 2023....
Wow I'm hooked thanks for exposing me to 🇬🇧 urban artists never heard of her... cool story 😎 say do story Lynden David hall and Ephraim Lewis may they rip 🙏🏾 🪦 🥺🤧
Yep I’ll see what I can put together for both artists
great video.
💗💗💗💗 princess
Love loose ends.
The first album was fantastic a true classic. Such a shame that she decided to move on for the second album as it was imho rubbish. I have only ever played it once.
Wonderful channel!
Thank you.
Nothing will be as '' After the love has gone / Number one ''- memo from 86' !
is this the same Princess of Princess and Starbreeze that re-recorded "Still Lonely" by Prince?
Very Interesting!
I loved say I’m your my No1 and after the love has gone, they were very soulful! The rest sound like typical SAW pop!
She suited slower balards.
Shame as I think she was mis managed by the sound of it
Prinsess i got your CD
Ilove the song from your album .. now you know i know ... the song iam the ony one ,,,, wonder song
a request of Sandra music/life career would be awesome...
Okay no problem. I’ll add her to my list and will put something together
good work
I wonder if she was part of a group called Princess and the Starbreeze?
what a shame, loved Princess
💯👍
Why does the father look like Billy Ocean with a process? 🤔
Now i HEARD of this artist when i was 12 ,but when PRINCE was at his 80's Glory ,the name "Princess" sounded very reductive(i wouldn't have gone with THAT name in the 80's, SRS Princess is a better handle) if that's the word i'm looking for ,never really heard of her tracks until now...
Her songs were to much of the same. She didn't have to sing so fast. She depended to much on the music, she did to much dance music, not enough r&b.
Plz do Hamilton bohannon
This is a strange video! Princess stuck in a warehouse, while a separate storyline with another white guy and a light-skin Black girl is playing? You're right that PWL/SAW had moved on to promote Mel & Kim as their "minority" act. After that it would be Sinitta.
What happened to her? Just like most one hit wonders. If you don’t bow down and sell your soul, you won’t make it to the big time.
The album covers always made me feel they were whitening her out. Shame. Love your videos.
I noticed that on her debut album and thought she looked much lighter than she did in the Say I’m Your Number 1 video.
@@kenthuang436 Yes, that's what they would do to these artists.
Do you know what her twitter handle is?
those songs she recorded after say I’m your #1. were just horrible 😔 she should’ve searched for better material to record she had a very strong soulful singing voice !
I've heard of mn8 before.
Pete was FOUL & Petty af.
Thank Goodness She had Don 2 back Her up during dis MADNESS.
I've got a mission for you , What happened post *Southern Freeze,by SF vocalist Ingrid Mansfield Oldman?
I can look into it and probably put something together :-)
@@Sephsaysso I met her at Ronnie Scott's mmmm, 1991,2 , she sang Southern Freeze and I thought "God, she sounds like the original singer ,only after someone said She is ! Freeze on that Debut album , well most I didn't at the time appreciate as it's Jazz Funk instrumental, "Flying High" not sure if Ingrid sang on that ? But i dusted off the cobwebs and spun the album and it's timeless ,bare in mind we went into the late 90s with Eg bands like "Incognito" and Brand New Heavies , hence Acid Jazz , so I'd say that album by Freeze was way ahead of steam , but I've often wondered where she is now , great Chanel btw love it ❤️
Ps,,, sounds better on it's original Vynal lol
th-cam.com/play/PL5WkTSYxZYNheJNN0_2gVIgBCiv74EhXF.html
Sounds like me her brother was the wrong choice for being her manager.
Really? Honestly I took it as her brother having her best interest especially considering what was happening behind the scenes. But that’s just me maybe 🤔
@@Sephsaysso it is just a feeling I have. Could be wrong but I don't think so.
@@Iljinarchive Fair enough
Can u imagine she was dropped so her producers could take Kylie Minogue!!
I am surprised Peter Andre's daughter Princess didnt sue her over her name. But luckily she took after her Dad Not Katie Price
Sadly SAW were geniuses!! All her records with them were hits!!
Why is that sad?
@@anonymouslakernerd7214 They dropped her!