Can we also talk about the overly idiotic nature of new lego games? Children aren’t even allowed to be exposed to death, a natural part of life anymore. In the original games, there was still lots of funny moments while managing to keep some seriousness, showing that characters can in fact, die. Now? Its idiocy throughout the entire sequence of cutscenes and games and its not even well done.
I'm glad that somebody else noticed this. It's been a problem with LEGO games for a while. There was a trope in these games a while ago where the level would basically tell you how to play it without any room for figuring it out yourself, but now we've reached the point where the game literally plays itself while you look on, confused.
Exactly, if you keep babying kids in video games with no consequences for failure, then they won't feel any sense of accomplishment for when they _do_ beat a hard level or complete a difficult task. Like in the story time segment of the video shows, I could _never_ beat that freakin' podrace level in the original Lego Star Wars, and I still can't. I always had to ask my older sister to beat it for me, and she seemed to have zero difficulty with it. The game barely gives you enough time to make it through the checkpoints fast enough while also avoiding crashing into walls and cr@p, it's borderline impossible for the target demographic. They made the level more tolerable in TCS, but the point is challenge is a good thing, just don't make games _too_ difficult for your target audience. Skywalker Saga somehow made things too overly-complicated and too simple, it's a freakin' paradox in gaming if I've ever seen it.
I think the best way to describe the difference between the two games is to use a quote from Fred Rogers. “I feel so strongly that deep and simple (The Complete Saga) is far more essential than shallow and complex (The Skywalker Saga).”
My mom and i always play lego games together, when this came out it was exactly like you said, i understood more so i was bored (plus as player 2, yea that lava part in "The High Ground was so laughable bad) but the UI confused my mom, the enemies blocking because she needed to combo confused her cause it had always been "mash the Y button". It became a chore to play, great video about the worst lego game i've ever played loll.
Yeah.. i had fun while playing the game. But more and more, i noticed how mind numming it is and how many problems it had. The dlcs also only add a few characters straight away, and most of them feel like they could've used something to make them feel a bit more.. special. It wasn't too bad of a game, but it does leave me craving The Complete Saga even more
Having played a bit of both games, I feel like the new lego games don't feel like lego anymore, new health bar styles, mechanics, and small graphical details. Amazing video aswell.
“Subsequent Lego titles would impress less and less…” While Lego Batman is onscreen. That and Lego Indiana Jones brought something new to the table and refined the gold standard set by Lego Star Wars, making up the Holy Trinity of Lego games. They all sit comfortably alongside each other in terms of aesthetics, charm, and gameplay.
@@superkey835 I disagree that was pretty good tbh. Honestly the Anakin boss fight in TSS is clearly harder as combat in general is more difficult in that game.
I agree with this as Skywalker Saga is FAAAR too easy, however when it comes to the cutscenes in it, I don't mind them being more jokey compared to the originals as that is how Lego is nowadays and for the most part the jokes hit pretty okay, at least from what I remember I haven't played the game in a good bit. My main issue with the game honestly is how some level segments take place in the open world causing some replay-ability to be a bit eh considering some parts of the story are lost, requiring the only way to do so being make a new save and play through that way
I disagree, the jokey parts aren’t funny or really lego style oriented, its gotten to the point where its brain candy for children, which is wrong. Children are not idiots, as a child, seeing Qui gon jin die in the game was NOT at all traumatic, having some kind of seriousness makes you feel like actions matter in the universe, otherwise there is no death, how can Vader or Qui gon die when maul was bouncing around without arms and legs, which would spell certain death in the original games? This lack of depth I’m willing to argue just turns games into brain rot for children, like mindless scrolling on youtube.
I feel you dude, TCS was my first videogame ever. It's something I enjoy going back to every now and again. TSS is just another modern corporate piece of garbage. The magic is just... gone.
Ive been on a journey, playing most Lego games made by Tt and Ive noticed a trend of the challenge of these games declining, while the worlds and character rosters expand. I think the newer games lost the charm of the originals and its never been clearer than with the Skywalker Saga. Bigger ≠ better !
For me Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga is a great game and I’ve had hours of fun with it and it was a great remake/reimagining of the Star Wars. Like with The Complete Saga and other games before The Skywalker Saga I’ve had great fun with every Lego game I’ve played, overall in my opinion Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga is a great game and one of the best Lego games that I’ve ever played, but each to their own, though I agree Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga has its faults and it isn’t perfect but it’s an enjoyable experience. 👍🏻
Wow, very articulated video. I did enjoy Skywalker Saga, but Complete Saga (and LEGO Star Wars III in it's own way) is LEAGUES better than Skywalker Saga.
Tbh, it's not that bad. I'm still thinking of getting it. But it's definitely a step down to the originals. Plenty of it doesn't make sense as you explain yes. But at least they are trying something new which I understand. But the thing I noticed, this game is a lot like AC Odyssey, but a little better. Short story missions, huge game with lots of secrets and side missions. Only difference is...the secrets and side missions aren't as repetitive as AC Odyssey. But! Boy I hope they don't take it down that path...if they do then it will be the downfall 💯. This is our future of gaming, including Starfield, and how many other games with nothing but boring repetitive side missions and same secrets copy and pasted with very little story to explore. This is a dangerous sign to our Lego games. What they need to do to improve is give us more level design and trash enemy combat and more puzzles, with all this extra non repetitive side missions and it would be so awesome! But since there's a lot that doesn't make sense in this, I'm guessing our writers didn't do their research which is also a dangerous sign that our new dev staff doesn't give a shiz about our beloved franchise. So gotta admit, we're in the red here... 😨 It's almost as if this game was done by half devs that were there for the originals and huge fans of Star wars in general and the other half were new devs that just don't know anything about it. And as those old devs leave and retire, we're screwed completely. It's almost as if you can really notice that. And I do wonder...
I don't nesscesarily "dislike" Skywalker Saga and you might be right regarding those Lego Star Wars games, my big issue with the Lego games as a whole is how dying is a slap on the wrist, all though this might be a bigger issue with Skywalker Saga since combat doesn't feel too bad but it lacks challenge. You were pretty reasonable here, something throughout my entire playthrough about Skywalker Saga felt "off" and you might've described it. That pod race and the Obi Wan and Anakin duel were weird moments in the whole game of the original where you actually had to try to succeed. The rest of the game had dying be a slap on the wrist, but it's hard to deny that the older Lego Star Wars did have that "pick up and play" feel where Skywalker Saga feels like an amalgamation of so many thing while throwing so much at you. Not a bad video for something the algorithm reccomended me, not bad at all.
I hate the over the shoulder camera and I hate open worlds. I liked in the first one that you could go from chapter to chapter via a hub. Got completely lost playing Skywalker Saga and didn't know where to go next.
The only thing I complain for lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is the level challenges but the minikits from 10 to 5 was an amazing change I love it and for the gold bricks from 10 to 6 was an excellent change in my opinion the only thing I would complain is why lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is level challenges everytime I do a level challenges in lego Star Wars the skywalker saga ai was like all I want is the 6 gold bricks and 5 minikits and that’s it perfect 🤩 for a Lego video game. But 6 gold bricks and 5 minikits what a video game 🎮 change. And lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is an amazing 🥲 video game and welcome 🤗 adapt is 10 to 5 minikits and 10 to 6 gold bricks. Only complain is the level challenges and hub challenges but overall an outstanding lego video game 🎮. Level challenges and hub challenges that I had a complain about and overall it’s an amazing 🥲 lego video game 🎮🎮.
The pro for lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is gold bricks from 10 to 6 is amazing another pro minikits from 10 to 5 is amazing too. Level and hub challenges was not my favorite I hate the level and hub challenges in future lego video game 🎮 no more level and hub challenges let’s keep the gold bricks from 10 to 6 and minikits from 10 to 5 I want to keep too.
I would say prolly around early 2000s to 2013 were peak Lego games I played through all but for some reason it doesn’t hit the same as it did playing the old ones you can argue that we grew up but I doubt that’s the case the older games felt more pleasing and inspiring like compete saga,Batman,Batman 2 and clone wars the newer games just lack of story telling and just feels more of a choir majority of the time it the same patterns and cycles of the level
There are too many collectibles and the levels are so short in Skywalker Saga. It’s just a boring depressing repetitive game. And I 100% completed it and it took me 6 hours to get the last 60 Cyberbricks. Horrible experience and I had to replay Lego Dimensions on an Xbox One with a stick drifting controller after my original 98% completion 6months old save file corrupted on my 360. Meaning I had to buy a new console and an Xbox One version of the game. And that was more enjoyable than playing Skywalker Saga.
Dude! I just discovered your channel throught the totk video. I'm not even into Nintendo stuff buy your videos are top notch. Interesting subjects, straight to the point, you deserve so much! I subscribed of course
@@Rotogyou should call out nintendo instead of tt at least skywalker had content and some variety to justify its price but of course for some reson no youtuber is brave enough hahahahahhaahaha
@ownsundae No game is exempt from criticism (or complaints) regardless of it’s target demographic. You completely misunderstand my argument and assume my age for little discernible reason other than to try and demean me. Why? It is true I don’t find The Complete Saga as hard as when I was younger, but this was never a competition of difficulty, and it’s hard for me to imagine anyone who payed much attention to my talking points in the video could interpret it as such, so since you don’t seem interested in the video itself let me attempt to spell things out for you here: I don’t have a problem with easy games, I do have a problem with lackluster or fake challenges. That is the difference between Complete Saga and Skywalker Saga. For example, The Complete Saga’s platforming challenges require players to move, aim, and press the jump button at the right time to safely get between platforms(3:08), whereas Skywalker Saga commonly just prompts players to press the jump button repeatedly as the game automatically takes them across with practically no danger(5:49). By removing the risk of failure, Skywalker Saga ruins the point of the challenge, therefore hurting the gameplay. For many more examples and explanations, I suggest watching the video.
It's not necessarily bad that isn't the exact same but some things just feel shorter and rushed the in between parts of the levels and hub world is cool but afterwards the levels just dont feel the same
![Looking Back at Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga [Retrospective Review]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1LYMqrbon_s/mqdefault.jpg)
Can we also talk about the overly idiotic nature of new lego games? Children aren’t even allowed to be exposed to death, a natural part of life anymore. In the original games, there was still lots of funny moments while managing to keep some seriousness, showing that characters can in fact, die. Now? Its idiocy throughout the entire sequence of cutscenes and games and its not even well done.
I guess it's to "protect them", just like what censorship does now. But that's sooo dumb.
I'm glad that somebody else noticed this. It's been a problem with LEGO games for a while. There was a trope in these games a while ago where the level would basically tell you how to play it without any room for figuring it out yourself, but now we've reached the point where the game literally plays itself while you look on, confused.
Wow, it’s almost like the game needs to introduce you to basic mechanics or you’ll be confused!
@@person69420w you completely missed the point lmfao, keep coping in these comments
Exactly, if you keep babying kids in video games with no consequences for failure, then they won't feel any sense of accomplishment for when they _do_ beat a hard level or complete a difficult task. Like in the story time segment of the video shows, I could _never_ beat that freakin' podrace level in the original Lego Star Wars, and I still can't. I always had to ask my older sister to beat it for me, and she seemed to have zero difficulty with it. The game barely gives you enough time to make it through the checkpoints fast enough while also avoiding crashing into walls and cr@p, it's borderline impossible for the target demographic. They made the level more tolerable in TCS, but the point is challenge is a good thing, just don't make games _too_ difficult for your target audience.
Skywalker Saga somehow made things too overly-complicated and too simple, it's a freakin' paradox in gaming if I've ever seen it.
I think the best way to describe the difference between the two games is to use a quote from Fred Rogers.
“I feel so strongly that deep and simple (The Complete Saga) is far more essential than shallow and complex (The Skywalker Saga).”
@Sh0tgunJust1ce I like that thought🤔
This is why I still love the simpler level designs of the older games. The newer ones just put so much shit.
I remember my brother and I having our dad take 30 minutes to beat the OG pod race because we’d gotten so fed up with it
2 years later I still haven't 100% the game outside of the main story mode
2 years later and I still haven't even beaten the game lol
My mom and i always play lego games together, when this came out it was exactly like you said, i understood more so i was bored (plus as player 2, yea that lava part in "The High Ground was so laughable bad) but the UI confused my mom, the enemies blocking because she needed to combo confused her cause it had always been "mash the Y button". It became a chore to play, great video about the worst lego game i've ever played loll.
I think they should have just reissued "The Star Wars Classic Collection" and added Eps 7 to 9 to it.
Huge 2000’s kid mad about a game vibe
while would be cool, just cant really happen
Thanks for the subtitles, dude.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Yeah.. i had fun while playing the game.
But more and more, i noticed how mind numming it is and how many problems it had.
The dlcs also only add a few characters straight away, and most of them feel like they could've used something to make them feel a bit more.. special.
It wasn't too bad of a game, but it does leave me craving The Complete Saga even more
DLCS NEED TO HAVE LEVELS!! IMAGINE A CLONE WARS STYLE LEVEL!?
Maybe they should have reissued the Complete Saga with Eps 7 to 9 added to it.
Having played a bit of both games, I feel like the new lego games don't feel like lego anymore, new health bar styles, mechanics, and small graphical details. Amazing video aswell.
As always, awesome script writing-a real talent! Awesome audio and visuals! You always put a lot of time and thought into your videos!
“Subsequent Lego titles would impress less and less…” While Lego Batman is onscreen. That and Lego Indiana Jones brought something new to the table and refined the gold standard set by Lego Star Wars, making up the Holy Trinity of Lego games. They all sit comfortably alongside each other in terms of aesthetics, charm, and gameplay.
I think Revenge of the sith was the most disrespectul part of the game it feels so bad to play that episode
How? It had some of the best bosses in a lego game.
@@Jdudec367 just the level design feels just bad to play especially high ground the 3PO and R2 stuff is awful
@@superkey835 I disagree that was pretty good tbh. Honestly the Anakin boss fight in TSS is clearly harder as combat in general is more difficult in that game.
@@Jdudec367 I wouldn't call any of the bosses in the game necassarily hard tbh they are all pretty easy and take little effort
@@superkey835 Eh....they certainly aren`t easier then TCS ones tbh
Praying for a 20 year anniversary remaster
I agree with this as Skywalker Saga is FAAAR too easy, however when it comes to the cutscenes in it, I don't mind them being more jokey compared to the originals as that is how Lego is nowadays and for the most part the jokes hit pretty okay, at least from what I remember I haven't played the game in a good bit. My main issue with the game honestly is how some level segments take place in the open world causing some replay-ability to be a bit eh considering some parts of the story are lost, requiring the only way to do so being make a new save and play through that way
I disagree, the jokey parts aren’t funny or really lego style oriented, its gotten to the point where its brain candy for children, which is wrong.
Children are not idiots, as a child, seeing Qui gon jin die in the game was NOT at all traumatic, having some kind of seriousness makes you feel like actions matter in the universe, otherwise there is no death, how can Vader or Qui gon die when maul was bouncing around without arms and legs, which would spell certain death in the original games? This lack of depth I’m willing to argue just turns games into brain rot for children, like mindless scrolling on youtube.
I feel you dude, TCS was my first videogame ever. It's something I enjoy going back to every now and again. TSS is just another modern corporate piece of garbage. The magic is just... gone.
People who played this at your tcs age will love it 😂
@@ContendCreators No way.
Ive been on a journey, playing most Lego games made by Tt and Ive noticed a trend of the challenge of these games declining, while the worlds and character rosters expand. I think the newer games lost the charm of the originals and its never been clearer than with the Skywalker Saga. Bigger ≠ better !
For me Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga is a great game and I’ve had hours of fun with it and it was a great remake/reimagining of the Star Wars. Like with The Complete Saga and other games before The Skywalker Saga I’ve had great fun with every Lego game I’ve played, overall in my opinion Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga is a great game and one of the best Lego games that I’ve ever played, but each to their own, though I agree Lego Star Wars The Skywalker Saga has its faults and it isn’t perfect but it’s an enjoyable experience. 👍🏻
They essentially dumbed down everything in this game
Wow, very articulated video. I did enjoy Skywalker Saga, but Complete Saga (and LEGO Star Wars III in it's own way) is LEAGUES better than Skywalker Saga.
Im still going to say the last really good lego game imo was lego star wars 3
Tbh, it's not that bad. I'm still thinking of getting it. But it's definitely a step down to the originals. Plenty of it doesn't make sense as you explain yes. But at least they are trying something new which I understand. But the thing I noticed, this game is a lot like AC Odyssey, but a little better. Short story missions, huge game with lots of secrets and side missions. Only difference is...the secrets and side missions aren't as repetitive as AC Odyssey. But! Boy I hope they don't take it down that path...if they do then it will be the downfall 💯. This is our future of gaming, including Starfield, and how many other games with nothing but boring repetitive side missions and same secrets copy and pasted with very little story to explore. This is a dangerous sign to our Lego games. What they need to do to improve is give us more level design and trash enemy combat and more puzzles, with all this extra non repetitive side missions and it would be so awesome! But since there's a lot that doesn't make sense in this, I'm guessing our writers didn't do their research which is also a dangerous sign that our new dev staff doesn't give a shiz about our beloved franchise. So gotta admit, we're in the red here... 😨 It's almost as if this game was done by half devs that were there for the originals and huge fans of Star wars in general and the other half were new devs that just don't know anything about it. And as those old devs leave and retire, we're screwed completely. It's almost as if you can really notice that. And I do wonder...
I wish I could play this game but I can’t afford it 😢
RIP
Don't, the original is cheaper and better
@@subtoadp2 not really
@@person69420w there's no dlc, and on platforms like pc it's less than £10
I was so surprised to see just 350 views after watching this video. Very well edited and scripted!
@karroteu5000 Thanks! I appreciate you watching and commenting!
I don't nesscesarily "dislike" Skywalker Saga and you might be right regarding those Lego Star Wars games, my big issue with the Lego games as a whole is how dying is a slap on the wrist, all though this might be a bigger issue with Skywalker Saga since combat doesn't feel too bad but it lacks challenge. You were pretty reasonable here, something throughout my entire playthrough about Skywalker Saga felt "off" and you might've described it.
That pod race and the Obi Wan and Anakin duel were weird moments in the whole game of the original where you actually had to try to succeed. The rest of the game had dying be a slap on the wrist, but it's hard to deny that the older Lego Star Wars did have that "pick up and play" feel where Skywalker Saga feels like an amalgamation of so many thing while throwing so much at you.
Not a bad video for something the algorithm reccomended me, not bad at all.
Very well done video! I was so excited to buy the Skywalker Saga after loving the Complete Saga, but it just feels dull and way too easy.
@nightcreeper3839 Thanks! That’s pretty much how I felt too😕
I hate the over the shoulder camera and I hate open worlds.
I liked in the first one that you could go from chapter to chapter via a hub.
Got completely lost playing Skywalker Saga and didn't know where to go next.
you complain about how its easy but cant see an arrow on the screen
The camera and open worlds are sigma but no enemies in the open world is un sigma
The original was probably the only game I wanted to 100% as a kid.
lego games peaked with lego lotr I swear
Based opinion
The only thing I complain for lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is the level challenges but the minikits from 10 to 5 was an amazing change I love it and for the gold bricks from 10 to 6 was an excellent change in my opinion the only thing I would complain is why lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is level challenges everytime I do a level challenges in lego Star Wars the skywalker saga ai was like all I want is the 6 gold bricks and 5 minikits and that’s it perfect 🤩 for a Lego video game. But 6 gold bricks and 5 minikits what a video game 🎮 change. And lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is an amazing 🥲 video game and welcome 🤗 adapt is 10 to 5 minikits and 10 to 6 gold bricks. Only complain is the level challenges and hub challenges but overall an outstanding lego video game 🎮. Level challenges and hub challenges that I had a complain about and overall it’s an amazing 🥲 lego video game 🎮🎮.
Wait a second haven’t you tried LEGO Batman 2
he’s talking about the newer Lego games
And lego Star Wars the original trilogy counts too.
Strongly agreed 👍 💯
I hated the camera on this game.
They picked just cause camera instead of gta why
The pro for lego Star Wars the skywalker saga is gold bricks from 10 to 6 is amazing another pro minikits from 10 to 5 is amazing too. Level and hub challenges was not my favorite I hate the level and hub challenges in future lego video game 🎮 no more level and hub challenges let’s keep the gold bricks from 10 to 6 and minikits from 10 to 5 I want to keep too.
I would say prolly around early 2000s to 2013 were peak Lego games I played through all but for some reason it doesn’t hit the same as it did playing the old ones you can argue that we grew up but I doubt that’s the case the older games felt more pleasing and inspiring like compete saga,Batman,Batman 2 and clone wars the newer games just lack of story telling and just feels more of a choir majority of the time it the same patterns and cycles of the level
I personally like the game a lot
It’s ok if you don’t like the game but personally I think it’s a lot of fun
Been recently 100%ing it and I was having fun
Hey if you enjoy it don’t let me tell you otherwise✊ Have fun!
@@Rotog thanks
Skywalker saga is just kind of goodish
We are inventing new terminology with this one 💀
There are too many collectibles and the levels are so short in Skywalker Saga.
It’s just a boring depressing repetitive game.
And I 100% completed it and it took me 6 hours to get the last 60 Cyberbricks.
Horrible experience and I had to replay Lego Dimensions on an Xbox One with a stick drifting controller after my original 98% completion 6months old save file corrupted on my 360.
Meaning I had to buy a new console and an Xbox One version of the game.
And that was more enjoyable than playing Skywalker Saga.
Underated frfr
What an amazing video.
@user-kz7dy1tg3r You’re too kind❤️
Damn its a good thing I watched this vid before buying thanks for the heads up 👍😂
@nyko9631 Haha Well I probably shouldn’t be the only opinion you listen to but I’m glad you found the vid informative😆 Thanks for stopping by!
Dude! I just discovered your channel throught the totk video. I'm not even into Nintendo stuff buy your videos are top notch. Interesting subjects, straight to the point, you deserve so much! I subscribed of course
@alescano3504 Thank you, thank you and thank you!
@@Rotogyou should call out nintendo instead of tt at least skywalker had content and some variety to justify its price but of course for some reson no youtuber is brave enough hahahahahhaahaha
Stop acting like complete saga was not piss easy too.
Also 30 year old man complaining about a kids game
@ownsundae No game is exempt from criticism (or complaints) regardless of it’s target demographic. You completely misunderstand my argument and assume my age for little discernible reason other than to try and demean me. Why?
It is true I don’t find The Complete Saga as hard as when I was younger, but this was never a competition of difficulty, and it’s hard for me to imagine anyone who payed much attention to my talking points in the video could interpret it as such, so since you don’t seem interested in the video itself let me attempt to spell things out for you here: I don’t have a problem with easy games, I do have a problem with lackluster or fake challenges. That is the difference between Complete Saga and Skywalker Saga.
For example, The Complete Saga’s platforming challenges require players to move, aim, and press the jump button at the right time to safely get between platforms(3:08), whereas Skywalker Saga commonly just prompts players to press the jump button repeatedly as the game automatically takes them across with practically no danger(5:49). By removing the risk of failure, Skywalker Saga ruins the point of the challenge, therefore hurting the gameplay.
For many more examples and explanations, I suggest watching the video.
Eh, Lego game is Lego game. Except the Incredibles. We don't talk about that abomination.
ADHD version: early 2000’s kid is mad a game for children isn’t the exact same as the 2007 game
@andynachos2045 Hey man I can’t help being an early 2000’s kid, and c’mon I thought my argument and reasoning was a little better than that😭
@@Rotog It was in fact a fair argument, but when you try to sum in up in a sentence there’s no other way to describe it.
@andynachos2045 Well it’s a good thing the video isn’t one sentence long then huh haha. I appreciate you watching anyway
Ye u can have a good argument and still be a 2000s kid! Great vid 😊@@Rotog
It's not necessarily bad that isn't the exact same but some things just feel shorter and rushed the in between parts of the levels and hub world is cool but afterwards the levels just dont feel the same