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Using triggers to make automatic djent

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2024
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  • @AdamNeely
    @AdamNeely 2 ปีที่แล้ว +576

    excellent

    • @btat16
      @btat16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Protip: make sure the bass and the volume-sensitive MIDI triggers are in the same key!

    • @j_drichmond
      @j_drichmond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Makes me want to pull out some Squarepusher for a bassist that has replaced a drummer.

    • @twachn
      @twachn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Adam, you should just put piezo triggers* on your strings, kick on E, hihat on A, snare on D, and ride on G (imagine swinging!), and make epic drum'n'bass battles with Shawn. I would love to see that on tour in Europe
      *Or just do this ableton midi magic - I am a drummer I only understand triggers:)

    • @EthanRadell
      @EthanRadell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent but better somehow

    • @zynosgd9982
      @zynosgd9982 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      he's trying to replace you...

  • @origineo
    @origineo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    Now drummers can play both guitar and drums in "Bleed". Nice, Shawn!

    • @sssveny
      @sssveny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      10:15

    • @amslu
      @amslu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’ve got to check out the nularseq for ableton: th-cam.com/video/B4BySZmZ99o/w-d-xo.html
      it’s a new ableton device to play whole compositions on drums by triggering midi sequences. You’ll love it :D

    • @anttikinnunen7904
      @anttikinnunen7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Now hes putting meshuggah out of business too

    • @090nj2
      @090nj2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😭

    • @CyclesAreSingularities
      @CyclesAreSingularities 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@anttikinnunen7904 meshuggah is the one putting meshuggah out of business

  • @aylexmusic
    @aylexmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    3:29 lol nice Woven Web sample!

  • @Altum8bit
    @Altum8bit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    Guitarists everywhere: *"I can't believe you've done this."*

    • @jonatha_nbarron
      @jonatha_nbarron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ah fuck.

    • @aaronbones4290
      @aaronbones4290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tbh people be doing this for a long time...
      He just made it perfect 🔥

  • @JonFinnguitar
    @JonFinnguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Shawn, I've been a professor at Berklee College of Music in Boston for over 30 years. I've had a successful career as a guitarist and educator. Ever since you did this video, I've been out of a job. So thank you for that. Shawn knows I'm joking, but a more casual observer might not. I'm joking! By the way I have a gig two months from now! Still joking! Shawn rocks!

    • @ShawnCrowder
      @ShawnCrowder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Long time no see, Jon! Hope we have a chance to catch up soon (now that you're unemployed) :)

  • @TheJuicyTangerine
    @TheJuicyTangerine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Have you checked out Dennis Martensson's procedurally generated Djent? He made both drums and guitar obsolete!

    • @MaddDrEw
      @MaddDrEw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was gonna say this.

    • @odun5668
      @odun5668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was also gonna say this lol

    • @idrumlikecrazy9802
      @idrumlikecrazy9802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Procedurally djenerated

    • @TheBanana93
      @TheBanana93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obsolete in djent I don't think it would work very well with other genres like blues etc... Djent is all about being tight and technical!

    • @seumemel
      @seumemel ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't gonna say this lol

  • @justjamie4586
    @justjamie4586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you wanna hear a drummer who centres around stuff like this, id recommend checking out adam betts (the drummer in colossal squid and three trapped tigers). He uses triggers all the time and it makes for some pretty unique songs that I think people who like this would enjoy

  • @Free2shred00
    @Free2shred00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If you weren't already aware, Impact Soundworks has some really good Kontakt instruments of various guitars. They are a lot more complicated than any of the Submission Audio stuff, but if you really want to be a one man djent band, I think getting Shreddage 3 Hydra working with Grove Bass is the only way, lol.

    • @aaronbones4290
      @aaronbones4290 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is... Currently the roadblock i am facing is its mundane... But soon will fix that. Working on this ever since this video came out and now i use umanzki bass shreddage 3 and neurals along with addictive drums
      Its fun af ❤️

  • @ndykman_pdx
    @ndykman_pdx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thanks again for making the tour happen. I know you and Adam took a real hit financially on it and I'm sorry. The PDX show was great. Given all the hard breaks, it's extra cool you picked up a Revival Drum Shop hoodie. I know Jose, Jake and Keary really appreciate it. Hope to see you again down the road, might even have a custom snare drum for you.

    • @ossiehalvorson7702
      @ossiehalvorson7702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just FYI, in Adam's video on it, he went into how it still wound up being a huge success even with the amount they spent.
      Doesn't sound like they took a hit so much as rolled the dice and wanted people to realize what musicians are sacrificing to bring music to them.

  • @Merlincat007
    @Merlincat007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those animations for the midi trigger routing are awesome! So clear and intuitive.

  • @YannSelka
    @YannSelka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Having Bleed 5 seconds before the end of the video is not what we deserved, but it is what we wanted

  • @JayQuek
    @JayQuek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cant wait to watch this video again in a year and see everything that went over my head now

  • @JariSchroderus
    @JariSchroderus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The first time I heard something similar was in 1998 on the Space Groove album by ProjeKct Two. Adrian Belew was playing the Roland V-drums on it and he was triggering the bass notes on the kick. It was only three or four notes in total and every time he he hit the pedal, the next note would be triggered. And then Robert Fripp and Trey Gunn just improvised over it.

    • @JariSchroderus
      @JariSchroderus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/ikYm6Y8u6eU/w-d-xo.html

  • @DomPalombiMusic
    @DomPalombiMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's inspiring to see what other things you guys achieve with Sungazer, keep on crushin it bro, hope to see ya in person soon!

  • @fudgenugget3925
    @fudgenugget3925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Using the guitar notes from The Woven Web breakdown at 3:28 was hilarious man

  • @Dr_Wub
    @Dr_Wub 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a guitarist/drummer I not only approve, but I can't wait to experiment with something like this.
    I WILL CONTROL ALL OF THE GROOVE.

    • @mikakettunen7939
      @mikakettunen7939 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      as a DRUMMER/BASSIST i say AMEN - have had working quick&dirty prototype for this exact setup loitering but life has been focusing on other dimensions since prototype

  • @brennanlable
    @brennanlable 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no this is good. teaching guitarists to learn drum patterns will make us grow up big and strong

  • @kwichmann2777
    @kwichmann2777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ben dancing was the best part of this video :D

  • @iPivo
    @iPivo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The technology is cool as hell for sure, but how you actually set it up to make music is next level!
    Kudos, Shawn!!!

  • @Sergio-nb4hj
    @Sergio-nb4hj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one who'd gladly sit through a whole album of Shawn's drumming + auto-djent?

  • @nokatreuer9642
    @nokatreuer9642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Adam sounds so happy at 1:10

  • @akikzza
    @akikzza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i had no idea simon mixed your guys' album! that shocked me when you said that, now it makes so much sense why it sounded like something else i love!!!

  • @garretburrow
    @garretburrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro that coffee cup is gonna "trigger" so many people... and now I'm realizing as I type this the fractal levels of puns built into this video...
    Nice.

    • @ShawnCrowder
      @ShawnCrowder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually like Periphery a lot, it's their merch 😂

    • @garretburrow
      @garretburrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had no idea! I like them too, just too broke to buy merch 🤣

  • @tommj4365
    @tommj4365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now add midi note transposition, procedurally generated growls, ai cover art and tshirt design, etc...

  • @RedMeansRecording
    @RedMeansRecording 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant

  • @brandonthomas6862
    @brandonthomas6862 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha adding Bleed at the end there was the cherry on top. This video was so entertaining and informative. A+...D+?

  • @buenmojo
    @buenmojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think this is gonna blow in the drummer comunity. This is an amzing content!

  • @Csartreweghhgf
    @Csartreweghhgf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the new way the instrument are think about, they need to adapt to thrives.

  • @dxdsyn
    @dxdsyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ben dancing to djent is my favorite video from now on

  • @marcpatzelt2430
    @marcpatzelt2430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Drum Djenerator

  • @Maurice75
    @Maurice75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic mug by the way... 1:31

  • @hongigo
    @hongigo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of Colossal Squid (Three Trapped Tigers drummer solo project) doing some amazing stuff with drum triggers

  • @marshallrhodes518
    @marshallrhodes518 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro this is so friggin cool!

  • @aaroncourier6452
    @aaroncourier6452 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's settled then, next meshuggah album is gonna be just Tomas playing with drum triggers

  • @danielsgrunge
    @danielsgrunge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    00:08 could EASILY be an Animas As Leaders song lol

  • @lucassurgeon4122
    @lucassurgeon4122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:29 bro just sampled the woven web, I know that bend anywhere

  • @henryle6032
    @henryle6032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was the Denver concert! Y'all were awesome :D

  • @lw4384
    @lw4384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant content and awesome editing ! I love the record

  • @beatfromjetsetradio8239
    @beatfromjetsetradio8239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:30 samples from Animals as Leaders’ song “Physical Education.”

  • @Electricdynamite
    @Electricdynamite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    roland is the most consistent drummer i know

  • @winter_metal
    @winter_metal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maaaaan the production value if this vid is just beyond 💯🔥🔥

  • @joaquinvildosola
    @joaquinvildosola ปีที่แล้ว

    Wahhh great video man, very clever, very musical, very funny!!!

  • @bustedfender
    @bustedfender 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your style. Nothing should be taken as seriously as having fun.

  • @zippy-zappa-zeppo-zorba-etc
    @zippy-zappa-zeppo-zorba-etc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a guitarist I never thought it would be drummers that took over the world

  • @Sebastiside
    @Sebastiside 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed this and I didn't know it

  • @tommychobo3537
    @tommychobo3537 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a drummer and ableton user, I am very happy right now

  • @mikeobrien3133
    @mikeobrien3133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:41 Think about how many more people would pay to see Ben Levin with Sungazer now!!!!

  • @Kitamora
    @Kitamora 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. So excited to see you guys in London!

  • @honigdachs.
    @honigdachs. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, this is brilliant. All you need to know about "Djent". 😄

  • @blackasthesky
    @blackasthesky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh this is so cool!

  • @supermanzac29
    @supermanzac29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a cool idea

  • @DaTLMusic
    @DaTLMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    1:32 is that a periphery sucks mug lmao. Also joshua de la victoria is great 3:29 did u sample tosin abasi here? Sounds like his thumping bit from the woven web. Simon grove and plini are great as well

    • @static_motion
      @static_motion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah that bended note triggered on the tom makes me 100% sure it's from The Woven Web.

    • @iwanttwoscoops
      @iwanttwoscoops 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      whattt what's wrong with periphery? might have to unsub lmao

    • @LWNVII
      @LWNVII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@iwanttwoscoops Don't worry haha, it's Periphery merch that Periphery themselves sell that says "periphery sucks" as a joke

    • @mr.goldfish1530
      @mr.goldfish1530 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iwanttwoscoops Actually during their song Marigold, you might have heard the quote during a calm. That's a well-known conservative quote, and why I don't listen to them.

    • @otomostubeofficial2697
      @otomostubeofficial2697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mr.goldfish1530 what?

  • @shawnlarochelle4255
    @shawnlarochelle4255 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what would be more amazing?!?! Having your own car to get to gigs.
    Kidding......but really, drummers get your shit together ❤️

  • @jimalexberger
    @jimalexberger 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for you guys in Oslo, and hearing this live

  • @c0zy__
    @c0zy__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    wow that sounds way too real. I couldn't tell if there's another person playing or just shawn with my eyes closed lmao
    (you guys were awesome in berlin ♡)

    • @c0zy__
      @c0zy__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ShawnCrowder. bruh

  • @drphalanges1520
    @drphalanges1520 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's rad!

  • @consequenceable
    @consequenceable 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    feckin' YES

  • @martinblazik3624
    @martinblazik3624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Shawn, could you make a video explaining how you count the outro/climax of cytherean? The part right before you go back to the intro drums with the odd hits. Thanks keep it up man!

  • @drumuchy
    @drumuchy ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick!!!! Love it!!

  • @badfaithnomination
    @badfaithnomination 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely gonna try this! Thanks for sharing!

  • @mozkuthehermit5909
    @mozkuthehermit5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drummer: Fine, i do it myself

  • @redlightclinicdrummer
    @redlightclinicdrummer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video should be called how to be animals as leaders

  • @axelmurphy2397
    @axelmurphy2397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    not even the actual guitar sounds in this video actually sound like someone playing a guitar lmao

  • @Adrien-Drums
    @Adrien-Drums ปีที่แล้ว

    Man ! what you did with Ableton is super interesting, especially the different slap strokes!! Great food for thoughts, thanks for sharing it I! Did you figure it out by yourself or did you find some Ableton tutorials ?

    • @ShawnCrowder
      @ShawnCrowder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zach Danziger did this before anyone. Lots of TH-cam tutorials & experimenting helped too.

    • @Adrien-Drums
      @Adrien-Drums ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShawnCrowder thanks for the reply, I will check him out ! Keep on rocking 🤘

  • @--JAC
    @--JAC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soo freaking cool man, Thanks for making this video

  • @arrestedshrimp
    @arrestedshrimp ปีที่แล้ว

    Those 8 string thumping samples were totally from animals as leaders "joy of motion."

  • @ifer1280
    @ifer1280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's exactly how I'd do it, but with another DAW. Neat!

  • @jasonlucas8740
    @jasonlucas8740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is pretty neat

  • @portalnaut
    @portalnaut 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually goated

  • @ooximoo
    @ooximoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truc de ouf !!!! Bravo !

  • @TheSlvrSurfer
    @TheSlvrSurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to hear a full Animals as Leaders rework

  • @christophecoste8471
    @christophecoste8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    mind blowing, so clever, fresh

  • @overdarkproduction
    @overdarkproduction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. Now try it the other way! I played around once with gates on guitar triggering various drum samples so your 000 chugs would trigger the kick, and then octave up for snare etc.

  • @tweetycapmany6942
    @tweetycapmany6942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is extremely informative! Thank you very much

  • @Michael_H_Nielsen
    @Michael_H_Nielsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great toturial :)

  • @onesyphorus
    @onesyphorus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a mad man Shawn 👏

  • @illuminatiCorgi
    @illuminatiCorgi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nOrmAl People: "I'll program the drums and then play the guitar over it..."
    Shawn: 😈

  • @ddg227
    @ddg227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really liked the inside//outside project album, reconsider pls an EP or something if you have the time

  • @Manas_Kunder_
    @Manas_Kunder_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Periphery Sucks cup triggered me

  • @TCNAfterburner
    @TCNAfterburner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ABASI in the thumbnail. Love it

  • @brandonbarr7861
    @brandonbarr7861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now you need to get three drummers so you could have a full band lol

  • @dramaticdrummer0397
    @dramaticdrummer0397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the mug

  • @thejoetandy
    @thejoetandy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    making a bassist redundant, in a bass feature band. genius.

    • @heckoff7904
      @heckoff7904 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This just means its time for bands with two bass players just like how metal bands have two guitarisrs.

  • @poliniandrea88
    @poliniandrea88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Johnny part is hilarious

  • @bodkie
    @bodkie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another thing for Meshuggah to apologize for indirectly creating.

  • @elderozone
    @elderozone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so cool!

  • @TomStott80
    @TomStott80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro that coffee mug tho xD

  • @NestanSvensk
    @NestanSvensk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just cool as hell.

  • @boyna13
    @boyna13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh haha that mug 😂😂, Peri will feel hurt eventually

    • @ShawnCrowder
      @ShawnCrowder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha it's a joke, I like them

  • @vitriolix
    @vitriolix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So automatic all you need is $10,000 worth of equipment and a world class drummer

  • @EthanRadell
    @EthanRadell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just melt my brain why don't ya

  • @mezmerizer0266
    @mezmerizer0266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alesis Strike has a preset kit with metal drums and guitar written striking the drums.

  • @blotsmusic
    @blotsmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i was waiting for that bleed example the whole video

  • @AdamElteto
    @AdamElteto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:59 Pretty much sums up the "D word" genre...

  • @mvnoxl
    @mvnoxl ปีที่แล้ว

    This is crazy!!! 😆

  • @chrisbartholomew8772
    @chrisbartholomew8772 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohhhh if you haven’t come across Adam Beth’s Colossal Squid project I think it might be right up your street!

  • @IcyMidnight
    @IcyMidnight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed opportunity: Djentver

  • @petermuller161
    @petermuller161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean…. Locking the different instruments in such a mechanical way sounds cool and makes parents angry so… massive success?

  • @Daniel-zr4uc
    @Daniel-zr4uc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very neat ™️

  • @jonmackenzie
    @jonmackenzie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the velocity threshold on the snare for ghost notes, that's real clever. how about some kind of pressure sensor under your left foot that modulates note length based on hihat pressure? and below a certain threshold letting notes ring out so opening the hats behaves like a sustain pedal? would be a bit trickier to pull off but should be possible...