How to Make a Soup Can Forge
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This video shows how to make a simple and inexpensive tabletop forge out of a soup can with a plaster lining. The forge runs off of a common propane torch (spiral flame will work better than pencil flame) that can be bought at any hardware store. The question has been asked about what sand can be used. Any sand.
The exact torch used in this video is a Bernzomatic TS8000, you can purchase the same torch here (this is an affiliate link): ebay.to/1F2HEiM
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A great example of how to make a 'how to make' video. No crap music, straightforward commentary and well prepared. Others should make a note because THIS IS HOW YOU DO A 'HOW TO MAKE' VIDEO
i agree
I agree, short, to the point and good filming.
Simples.
dont forget how the materials are actually something you can buy without calling some polish company based in krakow
Buy... or find lying around at home. (blow torch not included in that)
Totally agree. No 10 minute intro talking about wife and kids and how you're feeling right now, blah blah blah
Hey, I just wanted to say that I followed your tutorial and made one of these 7 years back, when I was in high school. You set me down a blacksmithing rabbit hole, which evolved into an engineering degree as time went on. I really gotta give you props man, you’re truly one of the OG content creators in my book. Thank you, and keep being excellent :)
I made one of these a few years ago, and surprisingly it is still around. It still makes cool stuff sometime
I just want to say that i love your zanza's profile pic
"Plenty hot for forging steel"
Something about the idea of forging steel in a soup can on my kitchen table makes me laugh.
Clever idea. Very well done video! Excellent video quality, narration and step by step instruction. And all in less than 4 minutes. Impressive!
Wow! Hopefully in the next few months I will share some of my older metal working sculptures. Have to keep things spicy on Google. Nice videos!
Great video...straight to the point, easy to follow instructions, just the bare bones for the topic - unlike so many folks who 'ramble on' as if we tuned in just to hear their voice.
Ben you are amazing. You make science and learning fun. Your ideas are so incredible. Thank you. Keep up the fun.
Thanks Scott! Much appreciated
Years after first watching this video I'm going to make one of these today. Though I've decided to forgo the plaster of paris for refractory cement which is meant to work at 1500-3000* to begin with.
I have plaster of Paris and sand to hand or do you think refractory cement is better
I did this with a 55 gallon drum rather than a soup can to make a full sized forge and it works great :D
I had the same exact idea, I was just trying to figure out how you would support it.Can I ask ,how did you support it?
Christian McIlhenny he probably just joking...but using siple bar stock ...or 90' angle bars would work
i used an old engine stand
Hello NightHawkInLight
I saw this video on a Facebook post. Are you affiliated with a Facebook page called "The Wilderness Depot"? If not, they are using your video, thought you might want to know.
+Mellow Robinson Also saw this on Facebook.
NightHawkInLight, if you're not apart of the Facebook page, I would suggest trying to report them and taking it down as people are stealing your videos
+Mellow Robinson I am not. Thank you for the heads up, people steal this video all the time.
+rasgul Not sure if this question is still unanswered for you but I have plans to build a soup can forge and also a coffee can forge, having one of each size offers a bit of flexibility, and the torch is interchangeable between the two. .
+NightHawkInLight Think about putting on a water mark near a corner as these are hard to remove from videos.
+NightHawkInLight a group on Facebook also is using your bullpup airsoft gun video. they are called "A Bit of Everything" just saw it today
Thank you so much for this video. At the end of this month, I'll be taking bladesmithing classes. I definitely will build this.
The inventiveness of this kind of stuff gives me hope for this country. Now if only I knew what to use a forge for. Thanks for the info.
Great demonstration video. Have you considered using water for fuel Brown's gas that is called HHO Gas? HHO Gas is pure hydrogen and oxygen through electrolysis the waters pulled apart into hydrogen and oxygen gas. When this HHO Gas fire flame comes in contact with any surface, what took minutes to heat up only take seconds. 1 gallon water produces 1700 gallons of HHO Gas.
no one gallon of water will produce 1 gallon of HHO. The space taken up by the gas state of Hydrogen and oxygen will be greater but the volume will remain constant.
that'll be to fast to maintain metal integrity and may damage the metal it's self.
***** You mean the mass will remain constant, not the volume. The volume by definition is how much space the gas takes up, which will of course be greater than the volume of an equal mass of liquid water.
Isn't it evident enough that NightHawkInLight knows his stuff? I'm so tired of seeing oxyhydrogen-related propaganda/misinformation on youtube! It's a subtle form of spam...
***** I'm going to jump the gun here and assume that you're talking about the typical electrolysis that I see spread around youtube, which involves using electrolytes (salts) (or not, but relying entirely upon electricity the same as the ones that use salts). You may want to find out how much electricity is actually needed to convert 2H2O to 2H2 + O2.
A little physics for you: If you dump electricity into water, you'll boil the water. If you dump electricity into saltwater, you'll boil the water and the salt will remain as crystals. Water vapour (steam) is neither oxygen gas nor hydrogen gas. You might get a tiny amount of hydrogen & oxygen, but not in an immediately useful form and certainly not a useful amount.
Commercial water electrolysis sources tend to use a different method involving some non-electrical source of heat (eg. nuclear radiation) to preheat the water to at least 800C (1600F) and pressurise the resulting steam before hitting it with a current. That's high temperature electrolysis operating WELL above boiling point, and your salts become pointless at that point because they'll just crystallise when the water evaporates, well before the point of splitting. Why so much heat?
A little chemistry for you: If you have two different plates of metal dipped into an electrolyte solution, you have a wet cell battery. If you dump too much charge into it, you're abusing it by overcharging. Overcharging wet cell batteries does cause a tiny amount of electrolysis at comparatively low temperatures, but it's very inefficient, yielding no more than 5% hydrogen and no less than 95% steam. Your
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The Modern Rogue brought me here
been searching on diy metal forging, and this guy has the simplest, genius method.but i would really pack that plaster/sand mix tightly. what a great way to get it done. you rock man.
For an even larger application I have used a larger coffee can. This allows for a large heating area inside. I still used a narrow opening to restrict the heat from exiting the furnace. Thank you for the video. Excellent!!!
Why is Machinima at the very end of the video?
Illuminati.
@@SugarBombs89 genius
I thought they only did gaming channels, but Machinima used to be a partner network on YT.
Bro that is soooo cool. But would it work if i used concrete instead of the sand and plaster mixture?
Nadeem Kablawi no. The concrete could have water and since it isn't porous it can explode
DONT! It will blow up in shards.
Absolutely Nobody oh shit I think we are too late this guy died from the explosion
...This is AWESOME!!! I found this by accident but have wondered about a forge and never remembered to look it up when I get onto the computer. Thank you, I love this video.
Just adding my two cents after researching making forges, I think the inlet for the torch should be closer to the front and angled backward so that when the blade is in it the thick part by the handle is nearest to the flame and the thinnest part by the tip is away from the heat. This will allow for a more even heating. Other than that I built this and it works great, though I did build a housing for it out of fire bricks instead of the brackets.
Can i use fireproof refractory cement instead of the plaster?
Forjam yes
Satanite refractory cement would be ideal and and also some glass wool but I think the aim was to make one as cheaply as possible. I have sand and plaster. Satanite is expensive in comparison to 0 £'s.
would it work with a bigger can? like the large heinz tomato juice cans?
Probably, but you might need a different ratio of the plaster on the inside. (It's just a guess. I'm not an expert so you shouldn't take my word for it.)
You probably shouldn't use a much bigger can. Because how forges work is they concentrate a massive amount of heat into a very small area. That's why a big 2 foot X 2 foot forge will only have like a one square inch or so working area. That's why when blacksmiths make swords and stuff, they work the metal only two inches at a time. So a larger forge will be much less hot and powerful.
Fargraven
Look up full size forge plans.
It should but you might need a larger torch
this the simplest and easiest homemade forge i have seen on youtube. great job and i am on the way to making my own.
ive been looking for years on how to do this and you're the only person to show it in such depth, thank you so much
I am now buying the materials to make this... I am gonna be ready for the zombie apocalypse
***** you won't win a war with arrowheads alone. Making a bow is also a skill
Zombies are basically never going to happen, and you're not going to have the appropriate fuels for this lying around for long. If you want some kind of apocalypse-proof system, I'd go with charcoal. Charcoal is relatively easy to make, and has been used for thousands and thousands of years. It also burns hot enough to do metalwork. On top of that, it has other uses, such as helping to filter air and water, and is a basic way of helping to neutralize ingested poisons. It's a common practice medically, but they use activated carbon, which basically is just a lot more effective. Charcoal in general has been used for a long time.
And no, you probably don't want to be making arrows or bows in an apocalypse, esp. a zombie apocalypse. They're hard to make well enough for them to actually be useful (read: accurate), and an arrow isn't going to do much to a zombie.
I don't know much about zombies, but in a'normal' apocalypse, if you get a strong enough bow, you could be quite irritating, especially with a large group. And there are ways to make relatively good bows in a couple of minutes, not kidding.
ilikethisfood The arrows are more important than the bow, and good arrows are hard to make. If you do it wrong, you're going to get a very inaccurate weapon. In any situation that matters, you can't afford to be inaccurate. You're better off dying if you're going to be attacking people, or, for hunting purposes, going with throwing weapons.
seigeengine Yes, I agree on that, i tried it myself many times, it certainly is harder than it looks.
If I had money I would be a regular at home depot
i have no idea how you can think of stuff like this, its awsome, and your videos are very cool.
Thanks for sharing! This video was really informative and entertaining. I am an aspiring blacksmith and this is an excellent first step to take considering my low budget. Also, definitely get the TS8000 swirling flame torch head, I found using the pencil flame simply doesn't generate enough heat.
Keep up the good work!
How safe is this?
Not very , the Calcium sulphate ( plaster of Paris) breaks down at high temperature to form Calcium oxide and the SO3- ion, this reacts with water in the air to make sulphuric acid vapour.
How do I know this?
I made this in my garage and was violently ill for 3-4 days due to the fumes. Breaking difficulties, dizziness, vomiting.
If you do make this, do it outside, or make one out of perlite and refractory cement.
Ollie Robs Where the hell are you getting these chemistry "facts" from? Because everything you just said is complete bullshit.
Chris Valdez I have a well ventilated work area, how ever I have just upgraded the extraction system. However, I will still never do this indoors again, as I am mentally scared by how ill I was!
Sean Confer I study Chemistry at University. I have been researching energetic materials and energetic chemicals recently. I can use my knowledge of thermal decomposition to figure out what it going on. One of my hobbies is, metal casting; Copper, Silver, Aluminium, Brass etc. So I know a lot about refractory materials, as I have 3 homebuilt foundry's that are all capable of melting copper. Made of nothing more than perlite, normal cement, and fine sand.
CaSO4(s) ==> CaO(s) + SO3(g)
Or the SO3 reacts with H20 to form H2SO4(g)
The SO3 further decomposes to SO2 and O2.
2SO3(g) ==> 2SO2(g) + O2(g)
Stay safe all.
If that's the case, and you knew all about it, then why would you think its a good idea to do this in an enclosed garage? From what you claim, you know the risks, so if that's true, then I don't understand how you were able to expose yourself? Let alone perform the experiment in the first place. I'm guessing you either are lying about what you study, or you are lying about actually making this. Either way, I was just wondering.
How long does this forge run on one bottle of propane?
It lasts long enough to make like 2 knifes
Or 2 knives.
Wow I can't believe that even I CAN do this! It's great to see this stuff!
I made a slightly modified version of this when I took up knife making (not forging like the video, but starting with metal stock and filing away everything thats not a knife) and needed a way to heat treat knives in my apartment.
Mine was made with the bottom 3/4 of a 2 liter coke bottle as the outside form and a coke can as the inside form, and I used a runnier mix of plaster/sand so I could pour it in. When I dried I pealed off the 2 liter and ripped out the coke can and chiselled a hole for the blow torch and it works great. I just set it sideways on my oven rack since I didn't build the stand.
It has now officially heat treated 3 O1 tool steel knives perfectly. And to Stephanie Morgan, yes it can definatly melt lead.
baht to heet soup all U need is stove. seems liek a lot work for soup.
=_=
ryan atanacio going sleep is no help 4 U :-(
HAHAHAHHA this comment is amazing
It's a cool design for a little forge, but the choice of material is very poor. When you drive off water from plaster of Paris you're left with calcium sulphate. This compound decomposes at the temperatures this forge provides. You get calcium oxide and sulphur trioxide, which is basically sulphuric acid without a molecule of water. It is a highly corrosive substance you don't want to breathe in even if it's given off in small amounts, and it makes the steel brittle.
Refractory materials of choice are bentonite, perlite, fireclay, silica sand. Not sulphurous compounds.
Nah.
I call bullshit.
Thanks for the info!!!! Just built one out of a coffee can. Will post video when I have a chance.
Cannot wait to have the opportunity to apply this.
Go NightHawk!
I lost it when he said pipe nipple...
I paused the video and laughed really hard xD
i lost him when he said hole....
nothing innapropiate just really really confused
0:58 HAH, he said nipple
You are so immature!
Cue the 'Beavis and Buthead' laughing.
Hey Nighthawkinlight! So my dad and I decided to build this this weekend and it works great! I was able to make a karambit out of a wrench. Thanks for the awesome video!!!
make a video showing your kbofe
+Relevant okay :D it's super ugly doe
Just the regular brown play sand you find at the beach or in bags at the a hardware store.
A very well done, even professional video! Man, this could go on the DIY network, or something.. super job, man!
Clear, concise, well narrated and clean video. Good job, thanks.
Made it, loved it, went on ad now blacksmith with a brake drum forge. Regular dirt works and the pipe nipple is a bad idea, just punch a hole that will fit your torch as the pipe nipple gets red hot and cracks if cooled too fast
For my first forge that's all I need, once I get better at it then I can build a bigger one. Thanks for the video.
I made this and it works great. Thanks for the instructions.
The guy's voice and video style remind me of kipkay
Clear concise instructions . Thank you Sir ...
Thank you for the simple break of the build. I will be making one this weekend.
This is the kind of genius that the world needs. Way to go! 👌
My nine year old son and i will be doing this today. But we will be using a paint can. We will post results later. Thank you for the informative video.
Gonna use this for glass blowing! You have videos on all the stuff I want to do, I don't need to go to books or anything confusing.
Great video man, very detailed and really straight forward. looking through the comments I see a lot of negative feedback but really people if u were so smart, why in the world are u sitting there watching TH-cam videos on how to make a forge. this man has took his time to show the one of us out there that love this "hobby" how to do something on a low budget and I believe it is a great project, just made mine last night, although I did use a large coffee can instead of the soup can so I could make bigger projects. I have not used it yet, but I am going to be using a 20lb propane tank for my fuel source just so I have a lot more work time. I will be making a video of the finished product when I get my tank refilled . But anyways great video friend and thanks for the great idea!!!!
I love this!! Thank you so much! The way you explain leaves nothing to chance...excellent work!
Your tutorial helped me make a
Nice coffee can forge with some modification. Thanks a lot!
I really like this build, me and my friend are really into knives and I have been wanting to find a forge that is easy to make and effective, thanks for the video
Just finished my forge and works like a trooper... Cheers mate...
I remember using this as a source in high school for a manufacturing project to make a scaled up version, turns out they only recently replaced it with a newer one.
Great video.
I tried this experiment, and it works quite well, nice job!
Of course if you REALLY want to scale up the size of the forge, take an old oil drum, surround it in about 4-6 inches of the plaster-sand mix, then use an oxygen and acetalene torch set (the highest temperature possible for a propane torch design available to the public) and follow the same steps as in the video. it will take longer to heat up but not only will the end temperature be much hotter, but you will be able to melt larget and different items then the can could be used. Works GREAT.
Nice design I made one about 18" long with two burners. It is long enough and hot enough to make sword length blades. It is a bit of a pain during the annealing process but the forge works as well as my old Mankel forge.
This is awesome! I'm gonna build one this summer, and when I make knives, I can finally heat treat them properly!
I just followed this and had success! thanks !
Thoughts for those who follow
1. My mixture set VERY FAST. I failed the first time and the second I over watered and waited but it still set very quickly once it started to get where it was not soup. I was using the Plaster of Paris sold at Lowes in the paint section
2. I let it set and dry for 2 hours then started the first burn. Took about 2 hours with the torch running to get it cured and hot enough to redden my chosen metal rod (a 1/4" piece of welders metal) but it did get there :D
3. Don't pound on your anvil on your workbench next to the FORGE! the vibration caused a chuck to break and fall off my new built forge :(
This is great. No cancer causing glass wool, no expensive satanite plaster.
I will give this a go. No big Cambells soup cans here in the UK so will use an old paint tin.
Very nice, very simple forge. Superb instructional video too.
Sir you have just saved me a lot of money. Thank you
Great video, you have inspired me, I'm gonna make one myself. Got a few tweaks in mind. A deeper tomato juice can with 4 L brackets cause I can see the plaster cracking if bumped. Definitely a bigger base for stability and a rest for whatever you are placing in the forge.
This is really cool, I might make it with an oil drum to have a decent sized forge.
Nice! A very VERY simple and cheaply made forge. Excellent video.
Your videos are always so helpful and interesting
You may want to try cement, sand and Perlite (from the garden shop) for a better refractory. Plaster of paris handles high heat very badly. But for something quick and easy this is great
This was so cool! I actually managed to do this, and I have it in my back yard at home.
Hey friend, I just finished mAking your"soup can" forge. Although I used a large metal coffee can I followed your instructions to a "T!!!" My question is "HOW LO G WILL IT TAKE FOR THE PLASTER/SAND to set and more important, how lo g do I have to wait B4 I start using it????" I wanna thank you so much for the TH-cam vid and I very anxious to use it and for a response!! that again for the "know how" and looking forward to hearing from you. Take care, have a GREAT DAY & HAPPY FORGING!! I forgot to mention that making my own knives is something I've wanted to do for the longest time. I'm a huge knife/blade enthusiast!!! Blacksmithing is something I'd like to turn from a hobby to a full time thing. Again THANK YOU AND ttys 😎
Just now
Brett Jones You should be able to start using it right away, the torch will cure the plaster in probably around 10-20 minutes. Note that you need a spiral flame torch head like i use in my video, a normal pencil flame will not be able to heat it up enough. Wear eye protection the first time you use it in case the plaster cracks, but I haven't hear anyone say they've had problems with that. You should wear eye protection while forging anyway.
I did and it does work but you have to put the plaster mix in thick or it starts to crack so I use a little more sand in the mix being that it was bigger. works great
Great idea, I made one today, currently waiting for it to dry out so I can try it
Back when I was a teenager, I took a beer can and took the top off of it, put an extension cord in it with a light bulb socket, and filled the rest of it with plaster of paris... it's been my Bud Lite ever since... I use it for odd jobs when I need extra light... it does't tip over easy since it's heavy with the plaster.
I just finished making this forge 10 min ago. It works great! I am so subscribing!
Excellent video. Very informative. I'm glad I found your site.
Very economical and if it doesn't last more than a couple of sessions then it is cheap enough to throw out and make another.
you have the best channel ever! all your videos are so interesting and informative.
I believe they are 3" brackets. I used the largest soup can I could find. Use whatever size you want, it will work fine.
This is a great tool for survival!!! Nice job Night Hawk!
love this, so easy but looks fantastic, gotta make one
Wow your really smart, I'm going to try this hopefully it's not too expensive for all the parts. Thanks for the video
Thanks for the video man i made q charcoal forge for knife making but this will come in handy for hear treating and things like that. Thanks again.
Genius! And superb editing!
Brilliant I must say. I'm going to apply this towards a smelting forge instead
Excellent video...
Hey NightHawkInLight! I would love to see a video on how to forge glass! That would be cool and helpful.
If you take off the opposite end of the Can it'll allow more heat to escape, so it won't get as hot. If you're looking for a larger size, a lot of people put hatches on the back of professional forges so that you can put a longer piece of metal through and heat it one section at a time.
Excellent home-make project
Perfectly simple. Great work.
Cool idea this sand/plasterparis idea might make a good rocket stove liner
Awesome....just what i have been needing. Great for forging silver jewelry work.
I really like your videos you explain in them very well
I made mine in a big coffee can and used a toilet bowl cleaner bottle as the form for the inside. When using two MAPP torches, it will melt copper in 10 minutes.
You build some awesome things man.
I will probably never do anything like this but this is so cool to watch. Your voice is great aswell. Keep it up!
Thank you so much for the step by step explanation! I've been looking for a how-to for a small scale forge and this completely fits the bill! I also like your cheap alternative for the insulated walls! I'm glad I've subscribed to your channel!
GJ on your invention! It looks so cool I am about to try it!
I found the plaster of Paris at lowes. I used sand from my sandbox. Make sure that you have enough sand though. Don't want the forge melting to the ground!
Can also use Kaowool which will last much longer and insulate much better. Its just a bit pricey but worth it if you want to make a larger forge.