Rums for Bourbon Drinkers
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- There's more to rum than daiquiris, rum & cokes, and mai tais! We love our tropical drinks when the time and place are right, but we've never explored rum as a neat pour. Our friends Jon and Lindsey from Truths, Proofs & Firewater Reviews love rum and bourbon and they decided it was time for us to sample some of their favorites. So today we're posted up on the Oregon Coast, sipping these rums that they say should appeal to bourbon drinkers: El Dorado Rum Aged 15 Years, Appleton Estate Signature Rum, Mount Gay Rum XO Triple Cask Blend, and Foursquare Sagacity Rum August 2019. We can't wait to find out if these rums will appeal to the palate of bourbon enthusiasts like us!
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What great reviews you two! So happy y’all enjoyed them! Phil using luscious as a descriptive word made my whole day 😉 Julie I love that you enjoy rums too and am happy you enjoyed these!! Great video you two!! I hope it warms up over there! Skal!!
-Jon and Lindsey
This was such an eye-opening and fun experience for us. Thanks again for the samples and we look forward to watching many more of your reviews - including rums and bourbons and anything else!
Julie’s Greatest Hit…🎤🎶🎶🎵It’s not a recipe, it’s a f-e-e-e-ling!!!🎶🎶🎵
The single is going to be absolutely terrible. 😂
This joyful video takes me back to when I could sip great aged Haitian and young Cuban rums (from a jar) I will never see again. Thanks for the memories, guys.
Glad you enjoyed it, Terry!
Neat whisky lover/aficionado here. Fred Minnick's love for Foursquare Rum, led me to try Doorly's 12 Years pure clean rum (about $30 bucks). and I was hooked. A new world of flavor profile to explore. Sagacity is definitely amazing. Foursquare is a standard for Barbados Style Rum and Rum in general. The depth of history of Rum in the world is compelling. There is so much FUNK to be experienced. Both in Sweeten or Unsweetened rums. Unadulterated for me please, but I am open for experiences, we all crave sugar at times, I'll take my in the liquid form of rum.... many great options out there and many up and coming here within the USA.
Thanks for the heads up on the Doorly's 12. We've seen it mentioned a couple times now, so we'll need to add it to the list of things to explore. Like you said, it's a compelling new world!
Doorlys is so good for the money
Foursquare Exceptional Cask Series is amazing. Sagacity is good but 2007, 2008 at the higher proof are even better as a bourbon fan IMO.
Nice! I have a Foursquare Indelible(aged 11 years in bourbon cask’s and Zinfandel cask’s ) that’s very good and a Dos Maderas 25.00 that really nice. I hear that Grander Rum is for bourbon drinkers!
To plagiarize Julie’s early tasting note comment: “Dang dang” great rum reviews! Enjoyable content!! Cheers!🥃
Haha, dang!
Im glad you did the Rum review ,you have to try the Zafra 30 . Four Square is a great Rum. Please keep doing these reviews ,love your comments!
Stand by for a bonus surprise in the box...
I love rum also. Foursquare is the best! They don't add anything to their rums no sugar no color. If you can get your hands on 2008 you won't regret it.
We'll keep our eyes open!
12:40 .... “luscious” ... love it!!
What I think we’ve learned is that you two love anything that has an alcohol content of 40 or higher!! Lol. Whether it’s bourbon, Irish, scotch, rye, tequila, rum, .... there’s great stuff out there all over the spirits spectrum.
Great video ... next time you should go down to Jamaica for the rum tasting, so we can live vicariously!
We are having a fantastic time exploring flavors, that's for sure. We'll go to Jamaica! We might have to crowdfund the trip, because I don't believe we can drive the van to that particular destination, haha.
If you can find it, you should try Diplomatico Reserva - it is my favorit rum 😊👍!
Demerera River and distilled in wooden stills. Quite a story for El Dorado rum. I believe the British Navy procured it's rum from Demerera River stills. Worth an historical look see. Bye the by, all iterations of ElDorado rum are worthwhile. A sipper for sure. Flor de Cana is another very good rum from Nicaragua in it's aged expressions. Vizcaya is good; tastes like butterscotch. Black Seal is good for a 'Dark & Stormy" which contains ginger beer that you mix with it; National drink of Bermuda. Prussers Navy rum I love; the rum of the old British Navy. All worth a try. My bourbon journey has only recently commenced, but I still hold rum dear to my heart.
We love all these recommendations. It's a whole new world for us to explore, for sure.
Give Diplomatico a try. I'm not much of a Rum drinker myself, but thats pretty decent stuff! Love the info
I've not been too into rum except in cocktails, but a few months ago I bought Plantation Barbados 5 year. If I didn't know it was rum, I might have mistaken it for a funky, fruity bourbon. It is aged in bourbon barrels for 5 years then shipped to France where is is finished in Ferrand barrels. I highly recommend it. I like it so much that I bought 3 other Plantation rums. I haven't opened any of them, but I have them.
We'll definitely have a look at that brand, Walter. I think that's what made the Mount Gay Triple Cask so interesting. The aging in bourbon barrels brought incredibly rich and exciting notes to the aroma and flavor. Cheers!
Rums often do have a much more tropical flavor. Ive had a rum that tasted like straight up coconut macaroons. It was cognac finished and had no coconut flavoring added. Ive absolutely loved everything ive had from foursquare from doorlys to 2008. They remain my favorite.
These blew us away. We'll be keeping some on the shelf from now on. Everybody's talking about Doorly's. Time to go shopping again.
Good timing! Picked up the El Dorado 12 cpl day's ago. (Haven't tried it yet but looking frwd knowing it's considered pretty good). Yea, it seems that premium rums are getting more popular, esp by bourbonites. Thanks for the youtube rec. Not many good rum channels.
Absolutely, Phil. We'll be keeping a rum or two on the shelf from now on. They're great for a change of pace or even to share with guests who don't like whiskey. Jon and Lindsey's reviews are so honest and genuine, it's hard not to want to try the things they recommend.
Another great episode. Fantastic job. Awful kind of them to send you those samples. Blessings from Gettysburg…
This whole community continuously shows it's kindness. We feel very fortunate.
Big thumbs up! Rum sippers need love too!
Haha, absolutely. Cheers, John!
Doorly’s 12 is another Foursquare that is easily the best value sipping rum out there imo. Pretty sure it’s a total wine exclusive but if you can find it, I suggest it highly. Great vid!
That's 4 comments mentioning Doorly's 12 now! OK, it's on the list.
@@TheBourbonVan I think it’s like $26. Hard to beat for what you get!
Get on a plane and go the Hawaii and have some Koloa Rum ... maybe in a MaiTai. Remember Hawaii is known for sugar plantations and growing sugar cane. In the interim, while sipping rum in Oregon , let the aromas waft you to some distant tropical isle. Going to Hawaii ... yeah, you're definitely going to be doing some rum. Please, don't feel disloyal to your standard bourbon: just lay back and enjoy the experience. Just melt into the all of it!
You guys need Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva (green bottle) and Don Q Gran Anejo in the mix. Two of the best rums out there.
That El Dorado and Mt. gay sound like winners. Thanks for the reviews guys.
For sure! The Mount Gay XO being aged in bourbon barrels brings tons of interesting flavors to the table.
The Appleton Estates eight year is fantastic. One of my local liquor stores has it for $16 a bottle
All those are great rums.
I'm a rum drinker. I don't take a bar seriously unless it has Rhum Barbacourt Estate Reserve.
Now we have another one to add to the list. Cheers, Aubrey!
I have recently started my rum journey with Foursquare 2008 being my gateway rum. I love that bottle so much I just bunkered 4 bottles as they are quickly disappearing from the shelves. All the other Foursquare offerings I've had are fantastic and I'd also recommend trying the Appleton Estate 21 year. 🥃
Thanks for the recommendations, Jeff!
Try the 2004 if you ever get the chance
So rum, wow that’s awesome that you two love rum. I collect rum not like I do bourbon or scotch but at least 100 bottles of rum not really an expert but I really enjoy rum, enough said there’s some great rums out there that you can drink neat four squares was one that I would recommend as well as Pilar rum that is made in Keywest try the dark rum or you could try privateer made in Ipswich Ma. they make high proof rum called queens share or navy yard. They are rums for bourbon drinkers.
I spent a year down in Keywest and drank my way through 1/3 of the rum (they had well over 275 rums) from a bar called the the Rum bar. If you ever go to Keywest that is a must stop to drink quality rums, just tell them Norm sent you. My friend Nick will hook you guys up!
Thanks for the Keywest recommendation, Norm! We've seen Navy Yard suggested several times. With your rum experience, it seems we could certainly learn a thing or two from you!
Huh. Who put peanut butter in my chocolate!!!???
This is a whiskey channel!!! No rum here! Bourbon and Rye!
Just kidding. :-)
Haven’t had any of those rums. What’s in our cabinet is Barbancourt Five Star 8 year from Haiti. I use to travel to there and Nicaragua for work and would bring back three packs of that from Haiti and Flor de Caña from Nicaragua. Purchased duty free in the airports. Great stuff. In Haiti the Barbancourt is everywhere and at various price points (3 Star and 1 Star). The older stuff was for export only.
Haha, we’ll return to our regularly scheduled programming now. We never considered rums for sipping before and these wowed our palates. We may need to bring you on the show to talk about your fascinating work and travel history at some point though!
This video was too much fun. Love it guys! Would comment more but we gotta run and go buy some rum. We’re sold!
Go get it!
Foursquare is great stuff - now don’t go spreading this too far, prices are already creeping up! You can also try Doorlys or Real McCoy - same distillery, similar style and generally less expensive.
We'll make a note of those brands, cheers!
I always keep a Foursquare around. My current bottle is the 2008. Foursquare and Richard Seale are famous for no additives or coloring. Can’t go wrong with any of their offerings.
FS 2004 is the greatest rum I’ve ever tasted in my life
This is interesting bcuz while I was at a wedding in Punta Cana I thought I was drinking a whiskey but it was RUM all along. Some Rums do drink like bourbons or whiskeys. Oh, and I didn't mind!!! Loving all the bourbon bottles in the background!!! I will be trying those last 3 bottles.🥴☺
Haha, some of them are sneaky and very tasty.
If you go up to total wine in Vancouver they have doorly’s 12 year for $30 and it is really good. Next time your over the mountain of course it’s stocked regularly
That’s good to know!
Malibu was my gateway rum 😂 so much so that I named my after-divorce rescue dog, ‘Maliboo’. I’ll have to check some of these out!
Love that pineapple, haha!
@@TheBourbonVanMalibu is coconut flavored. Where I lived it was labeled Coco Rico. We drank it 50/50 with coke, don’t ask.
The tropical flavors are from the yeast strains and fermentation process. Rum goes flat in the bottle much quicker than whiskey. I only drink rum on vacation so I can finish the bottle in the week. Just my system. All of those are rums I drink.
We bought a bottle of Foursquare after this tasting and we'll be sure to finish it within a week. We didn't really need an excuse to drink it that quickly, but it's good to have one!
Not historically a rum drinker, but at one of my favorite watering holes recently the bar keep asked me to taste something blind which I thought was a rye and ended up being an Old McCoy 12 year rum.....maybe I need to start venturing in to rums.Thanks for the reviews!
We went in with zero expectations and found some flavors that really appealed to us. We'll definitely be keeping some on the shelf in the future.
In my area it is hard to find anything but bottom shelf bourbons so I'm thinking about branching into rums while nobody else is chasing after them.
More to come on Monday! We’re really enjoying the flavors and availability of good rum.
Rum, rum, by gum! You should try the Barbancourt 8 and 15 year, and the Appleton 12 year. Great sippers. If I remember correctly, Appleton, Barbancourt, and Mount Gay do not add sweeteners or caramel coloring to their products. Haven't tried Foursquare yet, but I'm on the lookout for their offerings. Others that I have enjoyed were English Harbour 5year, and Smith and Cross at 114 proof. Cheers!
We appreciate the recommendations! Thanks for sharing. Cheers!
The Appleton 12 year old is quite nice at a reasonable price. It's got the Jamaican funk with a whole lot of oak. If you want to try something super funky at a higher proof, try the Smith & Cross Navy Strength Rum. It's a youthful concoction of two different types of rum, 115 proof, often used for making tiki drinks. But as a fan of high proof whiskies, I actually enjoy it neat. I'm a fan of the FUNK. You could be too!
Consider our interest piqued! Haha, we're adding this to the shopping list.
Another that I forgot to mention is Hampden Estate Single Jamaican Rum Overproof 7 year old, distilled in copper pot stills and bottled at 120 proof. Again, that Jamaican funky rum. Similar to the Smith & Cross, but a little stronger, yet more refined with the 7 years of age (about $60, the S & C is around $30). You have to pause judgment for a bit because they're so different and intense but they are so complex in their own way. It's hard to believe that these could be in the same family as Bacardi silver. That's what I used to think rum was (cringe), and so never ventured near it until about a year ago.
I can't wait to see a review on an unaged agricole like Rhum JM or Neissons 😀
LOL we don't even know what that is! Should we add it to the list?
@@TheBourbonVan it's a rum made from cane juice rather than molasses. You hear a lot of people say Agricoles have a green olive or green olive brine note to them and I do pick that up as well. I'll have 1 neat on occasion and love making mojitos with them. I can get either that I mentioned for less than $25 here in Ohio.
@@CBuss660R That seems like the right idea for a mojito.
Wooo
If you are looking for a good sipping rum try angustora 7 or Flor Dr Cana 7 for a good bargain rum.
Great vid. Another one to try if you see it is The Real McCoy Rum. They have a White (3 year) and a 5 and 12. I had the 5 and 12. Unfortunately I have not seen them in NJ this year. There is no added sugar in The Real McCoy Rums. Cheers
We'll keep our eyes open for them, Marcus. Thanks for the tip.
Another great episode.
I enjoy the flavor of a good aged rum quite a bit, but I don't like sugar being added to my drinks and it is darn near impossible to tell which rums do and do not have sugar added. I'm pretty sure most do.
Aside from all the carbs that I don't need,... alcohol + sugar = hangover,... this is why I don't personally drink mixed drinks or cocktails either.
I guess rum finished ryes will have to suffice for me, ha! Yum!!!
We agree with you. Sugar is tasty, but it is horrible for the body. We've been enjoying some rye high balls when the temperatures get really hot lately, but that's about it for cocktails.
If its made by foursquare theres no added sugar
Woot! I'm slowly making my way through your older videos and I'm only 11 months behind now.
Have you tried the Angel's Envy Rye (which is finished in rum casks)? I haven't had rum since grad school days when we drank cuba libres way too often on Friday nights and then paid for it the whole next day.
We’ve only tried samples of the AE Rye, but it hasn’t been our favorite.
Rum was my gateway alcohol. I drank a lot of rum in college and shortly after. However, I cut out drinking frequent cocktails because the mixers are so sweet. I drank mostly beer and some wine for many years until I recently started drinking bourbon neat. I would like to find a rum I like neat.
Same here, Bo. We found a closeout bottle of Foursquare Sagacity 2019 this weekend for $40 and snatched it up. We think the Foursquare or the Mount Gay XO Triple Cask would be a great first rum for you to try neat.
@@TheBourbonVan I did some reading and Foursquare or Doorlys sounds like my palate... now the search begins
@@TheBourbonVan My future Son-In-Law got me a bottle of the Doorly's 12 Year for Fathers Day, and it is awesome. Not that I've had a lot of different kinds of rum, but this is the best one I've ever had.
@@bo_mccroskey He sounds like a keeper. Doorly's 12 is at the top of our rum shopping list.
"...Foursquare sah-guh-sih-tee"
"That looks like 'suh-GA-sih-tee'"
"It's sah-guh-sih-tee..."
"Could be either one..."
Nice save... no wonder you two get along so well... 😀
We trust each other to be simultaneously wrong and right all the time.
@@TheBourbonVan refreshing! Unlike some other whiskey youtube channels hosted by couples - not naming names...
It's already been stated, but Foursquare is pretty much the real deal for sipping rums, particularly for bourbon drinkers. I think because much of the juice is aged in bourbon barrels, that helps. Finished product is unadulterated. It's higher proof - "Exceptional Cask" series expressions are in the 115 to 120s range. Also many bourbon drinkers have kind of a sweet tooth (me) - all the Foursquare expressions I've tried so far have some sweetness that feels balanced and normal - not cloying.
I think the hardest part for many bourbon drinkers to accept Foursquare is the kinda funky earthy burnt molasses profile - it can at times suggest rubbery almost medicinal notes - Islay drinkers may embrace it - not the average bourbonite though.
If you can still get your hands on the 2008, get at least two. It won't disappoint. "Shibboleth" has just recently hit North America - has the weirdest name but is supposed to be exceptional.
Those bandaid/rubbery/medicinal notes reminded us of some of the funkier ryes we've had and we like it, haha. With Julie's sweet tooth, we're sure to keep more rums around in the future.
Boukman Haitian. botanical rum review please
Nice review, as a bourbon drinker, I do enjoy rum occasionally. I've had the Mt Gay and Appleton before, not bad. Will look for the Foursquare....cheers.
Maybe our perceptions were improved by the sound of the ocean behind us and the warmth of the sun on our necks, but we really enjoyed these. Cheers, B!
Great review, but I am very careful to pour a rum. I tend to find them far too sugary. The mouthfeel on Foursquare was certainly interesting and ... luscious? Thanks for sharing!
Luscious indeed! They're such sugar bombs though. One or two small pours is more than enough.
You will find no sugars added to rums from Jamaica (Appleton) or Barbados (Mount Gay and Foursquare). If you want pure expressions you can start there. Cheers!
You have Jamaican, Barbadian, south and central american rums plus hawaii. Yeah it's a wide and at times "storied" field. As in bourbon, there is the lore and generally you get what you pay for. Some will disagree, but as in bourbon, it's best to buy yourself some decent sipping (neat) bottles and forget mixing. Also think calories. Rum = sugar bomb. Luck in your quest. N.B. Check out Prusser's Black Tot.
The Pusser's Gun Powder looks interesting at 109pr (esp for us bourbon alchy's : ) Ever try it?
@@philc1884 Haven't just the inexpensive dram. The "Black tot" was stated to be from the last grog ration for the Royal Navy before the ration was eliminated. Was selling for an obscene amount and as you can imagine in a collectors display box. Another good contemporary rum is Black Seal. And if you want an easy cocktail, you mix with Black Seal Ginger Beer. Ginger beer having an earthy quality and to me very good neat or with the rum added. Actually rum is a good change of pace from bourbon, if you procure quality rum. Rum got a bad rap with college age kids drinking rum and Coke; mostly Captain Morgan and such which is nothing other than a vanilla bomb. Due your due diligence, ask around and eschew the mid to bottom shelf. Otherwise, rum can be quite flavorful with unique tasting notes etc. Do watch the calories though, for after all you're drinking pure sugar. Demerara River in British Guiana; Demerara sugar good research notes! Eldorado an excellent first choice. Good S....T!
@@jamesnorwood4084 Thanks James, the Pusser line seems to be in limited distribution. I can buy online (from NY) direct from their site. Only $31 but another $25 for shipping which moves it out of the 'impulse buy' for me. (I'm not there yet on having booze shipped to me). As for rums in cocktails, I'm not discerning when muddled w 5 other (sweet) ingreds. Like bourbon, I'm curious about the sippers. Though ginger beer is my fave mixer esp w bourbon. My latest is a riff on a Kentucky mule where I combine w lemon juice/wedges, a splash of Grand Mariner and 1 shake of angostura bitters. The spice in ginger beer makes it all work so well. I'm sure it w be great w rum too.
@@philc1884 I'm more a sipper than a cocktail man. And I don't want to give the wrong impression however, I'm not that well traveled in bourbon or rum. I do recall one memorable sip though with ... and I hope I'm spelling this correctly ... Vizcaya VXOP cask 21 $44.95 here in Florida. Rum is imported from the Dominican Republic. Reference Total Wine online web site. Their blurb cites "good sipper" and I got a good butterscotch taste on it. Cheers!
@@jamesnorwood4084 thanks, I imagine Florida would be the best domestic place for rum. We're down in Delray and Port St Lucie cpl times a year so I'll keep rum on my mind. 😎
Love bourbon but the added sugar to some rums kinda worrys me. Im a type 1 diabetic so i am looking for drinks with 0 carbs to save me having to inject insulin in order to have a drink. Goin to have to pay close attention to the bottles.
Most rums are not true to the age labeled on the bottle, being aged in a different climate, rum ages a lot faster in those areas, so it’s a rough estimate of how it should taste like. Very hard to find true aged rum
If you figure out how to get El Dorado in Oregon let me know?!
If it’s available, you can find it on oregonliquorsearch.com!
Great, several rums I have to purchase for my life to have any meaning. This will bring the divorce for sure.
We're...happy to help?
@ Phil C, My thoughts exactly. lol
@@TheBourbonVan So nice of you. Perhaps Julie could give her call to 'explain' this harmless hobby? 😁