How to Make Any Location Cinematic
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This is the stuff that clients usually don't get. "You just go in there with that good camera and that's it, what do you need the time for?" I need the time to do this kind of stuff, to actually make the image look good. Great episode!
And I can't find anyone like this man. I needed help of a proper dOp for a short film of mine but everyone just wamts a quick buck
@@muhuhuhuhuhu for sure a lot of people think time is money and they want to be quick. That sucks
Clients aren't supposed to get it. That's why they're clients and hiring someone else to do it for them. And of course they want it done as quickly as possible. That's pretty much the norm any time people hire someone for anything. That's kind of the point of hiring people to do jobs for you: They're trained in a skill that you lack. The job of the professional is to be able to help the client get as close to what they're looking for as they can. And it's their job to explain why a certain result a client is looking for may take a certain amount of time or resources.
It's why a lot of talented people don't actually make good professionals. They don't really know how to work well with clients.
this is also why I can't just do something quick at home, it takes me an hour+ to set something up haha
How to Make Any Location Cinematic: have a full crew, get sent a £5000 camera, already have cinema-quality lenses, have controllable lights, have a suitable location ready to go
@@Azzlad I mean the point of film as a medium is to tell a story through the visual.
Is it a 1:1 correlation? No. A good looking movie won't make a story memorable. But would a bad looking movie with a good story benefit from looking better? Probably
@@dawnkeyy im sorry no it wont. Both of these things work hand in hand. You can have a good story but if your visuals and audio are trash then the movie is trash.
dont focus on the gear, focus on how they did it. You dont need $5000 camera to get what they have. You can use cheap 60w light bulbs
There's a dude who made a tv show that got picked up, as memory serves, by HBO, filmed entirely on a Samsung S9. Sure, a nice camera with some serious glass will always enhance the look, but if the writing is shit, Nolan would have a difficult time, I reckon, polishing that turd.
I do beliebe THEY want to show YOU how they do it, not how you can do it for free. To me it was interesting to see how they make a scene look better from a professional standpoint. But i get your point too 😂 I guess equipement and experience are really important...
Okay that transition at 8:39 was absolutely stellar. Such a good use of that light beam.
Hadn't even caught that...🔥
is this is the first time you see that, then you don't watch much movies
OOOHHHHH YEA I sooo agree!!!
@@AlFirous hm, i guess you have to look out for a dictionary to learn the meaning of gaslighting 😅 it was just a phrase for the effect, thats pretty often used (but still a good one)
For people getting caught up on the equipment they’re using - you don’t need anything that expensive to do what they’re doing, on a basic level. You can get lights very inexpensively, and then you just need a camera that allows you to adjust the basic settings of aperture, film grade and frame rate.
The short version is - use lights, with darker settings on the camera.
exactly, also its easy to forget that even though the camera is great, this video they partnered with Canon, so its like an advertisement
Yeah one of the problems though is that a fair amount of what they’re doing relies on the c-log picture profile, which is only in $3000+ cameras
Thank you! I was definitely a little lost, but what you said makes sense :D
@@multishrimpstudios Like I said, “on a basic level”. The basic techniques of this are reasonable for a starting TH-camr to accomplish, for example. And they commonly do.
@vaportrails7943 exactly agreed it's seems like that but it's gonna be different...!!,😏
I enjoy watching experienced DPs shape a scene with lighting setups. Something magical about turning an ordinary location into a cool shot on screen.
Same! Daniel is amazing.
P,sw
It's so fascinating how much effort goes into every single shot, and that's just the lighting.
I'm just an ordinary guy from Turkey's very small city. With all my sincerety, this video just captured me to how to create an stylish enviroment and cinematic scenes. This is by far the most instructive video about how to use light. Till this video, i have never understand the importance of light, but now i see clearly. Thanks for tips and never forget that you may change anyone's life positively from another part of the world. Much appreciated.
Look up Rob Ellis 🙃
This felt like a more traditional episode from Ryan back at the house instead of at the office.❤ please do more of this back at the house 🏡
If you want this broken down even further it honestly amounts to a few things:
1. Keep the light upstage to add depth
2. Make your key as soft as possible, step 1 will ensure that there Is still nice contrast across the scene
3. Find a way to control the contrast, in the first scene they use an aputure 1200D through the window to increase the ratio of key to background, you could also gel the windows in the back with ND or use blinds/grid/cloth/muslin. If you don't have a 1200D you could motivate a closer light from the window, say a 120D or SL60
4. kill the lights as a start and build up piece by piece, this will allow you to see the effect of each light and adjust accordingly
5. Neg fill the downstage bounce. This is the opposite of step 1 and will just push the shape of the light a bit more.
To summarise even more you can summarise in 3 words/concepts
1. Light direction
2. Light quality
3. Light ratio
Thank You Sir
This sounds a lot like the one trick pony "Wandering DP" style of lighting. There's more than one way to skin a cat. Key light doesn't always need to upstage and/or soft but it's a great fallback plan when you can't think of something more interesting/original.
Great episode guys! I relate huge because most of the films and music videos I've shot have had to be done exactly this way. Scrolling through the comments though I find it frustrating seeing the people complaining about the gear being used as if that's a barrier. Pro lights give you more flexibility because they may be easier to control or have more punch but if you don't know what you're doing with them it's irrelevant, your shot will look like garbage anyway. Same thing with the camera. People rave about the Alexa as if it's literal film look in a box, but if most people making those comments got their hands on one they'd shoot something that looks like it was shot on an iphone. Just a quick scroll through camera forums and you'll see tons of badly shot setups done on REDs and Alexas because people use that as a crutch without knowing what they're doing. You could create the setup you did with can lights and waiting until the sun was in the right spot coming through the window as your key light, shooting on a 5D Mk 2 you could get off ebay for $300 and a 50mm 1.8 $150 lens. You'd get the same effect and a great look. I went on Shane Hurlbuts Illumination tour when it came through Vancouver and one of the things that stuck with me is when we were re-creating the scene from Crazy Beautiful we were shooting on a C500, Blackmagic and a 5D Mk3 to cover the scene. If you put the shots of each on the screen un labelled and asked someone to pick out which was which you couldn't do it. No way. They all looked fantastic, all were drastically different price points. That really stuck with me, know your gear, understand how light works and how to control it and you can really shoot anything. This was a great episode and I feel like it was really relevant to your audience as most of them will be trying to shoot things in an average house, and you're trying to show them getting cinematic looks is achievable.
I agree, and also the reality is that great gear has become so much more accessible in recent years. I mean, they are using Aputure lights - this stuff is cheap for what you get. These guys don't want to stay DIY plebs forever, and why would anyone?? I have very much enjoyed watching their journey, and to see them grow in success is joyful.
Great tips! Would be awesome to see a 'redo' of this concept but with an 'on a budget' lighting setup. Think like using existing lamps or task lights or whatever that could be easily found around a house. Could be interesting to see what could be done with the creative use of those sources (and would likely be a huge help to the general public who is interested in getting better video without having to spend a ton of money on specialized lighting).
I would definitely like this. Also a video that's less of an ad for Canon at the same time.
Or the general public can realize they can just use can just wire their own sources with wood, plastic, and globes from Home Depot. If you can’t think in types of sources independent of the fixture it won’t help if you have pro or amateur gear.
You can literally do everything here on your own for cheap its not that hard just copy what they did with cheap lights and stuff. Muslin and a diffuser is not hard to find. And any light with a satisfactory tone thats bright enough for your use will work.
Great, let me just get all these different lights and diffusers to make my location cinematic!
How to make any location cinematic with 40k budget equipment. That's the title.
“If the camera doesn’t have an inbuilt nd filter I just don’t want it.”
@@Jrshuffles Yeah... that was one entitled quote!!! How many DSLRs have inbuilt ND filters????
@@Jrshuffles haha no joke. I started to feel bad about my "humble" GH5 :P
that's literally what I was thinking
@@fiddleandfart it's not an entitled quote it's a preference. If you want a camera without internal NDs then that's you. why are yall focused on the cost and the specific gear? Focus on the technique
Make a second part using your phone please 🙂
Lol you can't make every location look cinematic with a phone your asking for to much
We would have done everything the same, except the depth of field wouldn't have been very shallow. That's one of the toughest things with the phones currently.
@@filmriot If an external lens is installed, will it correct the depth of field?
thanks for answering 🙂
The sensor in a cell phone isn’t big enough to get this look without the iPhone fakery
Then with a potato
Wow, that was one of the most solid lighting breakdowns I've seen in a while
Love shooting raw and using negative fill. Blocking light is a powerful technique.
I like watching these tutorials that I can't afford to follow anyway. haha
This was so good! I’d love to see more cinematography breakdowns in readily available locations or even smaller ones where lighting is tricky!
The techniques are pretty consistent no mater where you are:
- Control the light with diffusion, negative fill, bouncing, blocking or turning lights on/off, etc.
- Add in your own lights where needed/desired (ideally from motivated sources)
- Use camera settings, haze, or objects to create separation and depth.
You could watch a 1000 videos on it and they will all largely follow those same steps. It's actually a pretty straightforward process. The only differences coming from the circumstances of the [exact] location you are filming in. For example if you're filming on the 5th floor of a building you probably won't be able to put a large light source outside of the window.
Another kickASS video from you guys! If a young person came to me, and said I’m thinking about going to film school. I’d say, are you familiar with the TH-cam channel FilmRiot? And they’d say yep, because there’re in tuned, I’d say there’s your film school right there! Don’t go spend 10’s of thousands of dollars! These guys are better than and class room environment! And cost worthy! I love you guys! ❤️❤️❤️ Thank you!!
Lighting is the key to all things beautiful. I wish you did more videos on this subject alone.
We have more planned! :)
I’m only an amateur photographer but videos like this sure help a lot looking at lighting and aestetics from another point of view.
Step 1: get a $5K+ Camera
Step 2: get a $4K lens.
Obviously there’s actual good filmmaking tips here and canon’s a sponsor but out the gate that’s just very funny to me
Yeah, this video def isn't for hobbyists or filmmakers below a certain budget level. I get a lot of great tips and ideas from this channel for little projects I'm goofing around with but, when it comes to videos like this one, all I can really do with it is watch and say, "Yeah, that would be cool to use. Oh well."
Some good lighting tips here, though, as long as you adapt them to whatever camera and equipment you're actually using. I mean, these guys would probably still call anything I shot "vomit inducing" but, fortunately, I'm not working at a level where it matters.
I've been thinking a lot about how I could craft a film around locations and other elements that I already have access to for a few weeks now, and this is a lot of help! Keep up the great work.
You're lucky you have access to a location for a couple of weeks. Wow. WOW Sounds so exciting. I wish I was close to where you're.
Loved THIS! Please do more episodes like this, i really feel like i learned a lot from this. Keep rocking guys.
Wow, I can't believe how much goes into this!
Yup when 2nd Team jumps in and the Grips & Sparks swing into action, most of us go to Crafty or 10-1 while the scene is being lit. Then there is another rehearsal with 1st team followed by some minor tweaks, if required, then we role. Rinse and Repeat for each new scene and camera placement. This process can be slow and or fast depending on how fussy the Showrunner is and how far behind we are in making the day: We'll fix that in post. Moving on! :)
Every Video of Film Riot is GOLD.
I absolutely love this video!! So much practical information, it's amazing to get a look at how you do this! Absolute gold!!
Been watching you guys for YEARS! Thank you for all you do!
The cinematic quality is so "David Fincher-isque" like I was watching se7en all over! So dope!
3:29 Damn, you guys are “painting” him.
This is like… real-time, three dimensional, illustration or something 0_0
I wouldn't have written this if I hadn't seen a lot of sad comments repeating thoughts in my head while watching this video. It's a great video and I'm happy that FilmRiot has grown professionally. But who is this channel for now? Who is this viewer to whom such "high-budget" educational videos can be useful? I remember myself ten years ago when I started watching FilmRiot - and then it was for me. I had nothing and this channel inspired me, taught me that even so I could make my own movie. I was even a finalist in one of the challenges! But if I had seen this video then, it would not have helped or inspired me. Maybe it's for professionals? Well, now I'm working in the film industry. I even made a full-length movie (it's bad, but it's on Shudder). If I need to shoot something cinematic in my apartment, I (like Ryan) will just call a familiar DP who will do everything much better than me. So now FilmRiot is about "look what cool stuff we have now"? Well... I've been with you all this time, seen how you started, and I'm glad you have such cool stuff now, guys. Thanks for everything!
I’m with ya man. Once Ryan said it’s the best camera under 20k I was like Jesus you can get multiple Reds for that much. I had to then come to the comments because there was no way I was the only one that thought this is kinda ridiculous. I’m not gonna brag a lot just saying I feel like I’ve gotten some “Cinematic“ shots before for 20x times lest the cost. Anyways good points mate. What’s your feature called gonna add it to my list of films to watch.
@@DevinGSquire well, it called Superdeep
I was going to say the same thing channels like film riot and of course the OG Indy mogul.
Back in the day were for people who basically didn’t know anything about Filmmaking in fact these channels were my film school. I’ve never won dozens of awards as a Director and my first feature film to secure distribution.
But man if I was like a high school kid now finding these videos I would be completely lost and the price point sound ridiculous.
Even the price of that camera is a bloody joke just get yourself a black magic 6K pocket for less than 2000 or get yourself a used red for under 6k.
Also more than likely if I’m putting a project together I’m just going to secure the financing and hire someone who focuses on being a DP so I can focus on doing what I love which is being for Director.
But I fully agree I don’t understand who this channel for anymore.
These types of areas were designed initially for the average guy or a girl who basically didn’t know how to put a camera on a tripod lol.
Now they’re using production items that Studios like blumhouse wouldn’t even put it towards the budget.
I have to agree. I’ve asked a couple of times before regarding the direction of the channel. This episode is way better than the stuff that’s been coming over the last year or so. There’s only so many after effects tutorials you can watch.
This video is basically a sponsor piece but at least it’s actual film making going on and the tips here will work for any camera these days.
I would love an update on what Ryan’s direction is now. What’s the future for him?
I haven't watched your videos since 2016. It's so nice to see you again God time runs so fast
C70 has been my absolute workhorse since it came out. It has everything you could want in a cinema camera and actively makes getting good shots easy
Yeah man, it's solid.
@@filmriot what lens was that fisheye shot ?
As A Person Wanting To Improve My Lighting. I Sooooo Appreciate This Channel,
"The almighty haze to bless us" 😂 loved the episode...
I like the idea of exposing for the background first, then lighting/shaping key components of the scene. Makes sense. Gotta love those ND assists too. Always makes me wonder about those classic movies. They must've absolutely blasted the actors/sets with lights considering how low the ASA ratings were!
Haze is great, just need to break it up some more with the flashlight. I can see "cloudy" movement in the light beam. Just fan it with a "fish net" fan to break up the haze and it would look better and make a clean beam. Hazing to me is the piece that pulls it together.
AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!
My job got me a c70 to use about 8 months ago and I love that thing. I prefer it over cameras like the Red because it's better suited for run-and-gun shooting which I do about 90% of the time. Plus it still gives great results when doing more scripted shoots.
This takes me back to the Revision3 days. Love this kind of content.
Step 1: Sell of your house, car, and a kidney
He said “16+ stops of dynamic range” and I SPIT out my drink 💀🤣
Absolutely loved this guys! I'm also obsessed with haze haha
Yes... I felt the same way... until it became something of a visual cliche!!!
1:37
Me: Looks pretty decent
Author: It looks absolutely bad
Me: It looks absolutely bad
Holy Carp! I had no idea the complex nature of lighting.
Totally want an c70!! great video as always guys!!
Can’t wait to watch this tonight 👏🏽
I actually clicked on this thinking it was some kind of 'filter' in post that you were going to show us. BUT.. its lighting!! plain ole lighting!
So in short you need an entire movie production team. The video is mad insightful. Thanks for showing us behind the scenes.
you think that's an entire team lmao
All that time and effort to light & grip up that location when it looked better just with the natural light at 1:44
You have no freaking idea how useful this video is for beginners like goddam
Masterful as usual
Love these type of episodes. Thanks Film Riot.
Daamn thats nicee
I SO look forward to these types of lighting and gear breakdown :)
Step 1. Get $10,000+ worth of equipment.
Brilliant!
This is just pure gold, thanks guys.
What this sounds like to a beginner: "We used the 12E BR-1 with our 44 rig because our RDD-1 setup was too big for this space. Even though the B22-02.5 ESP isn't what we typically would use with the S-Stack-1 lens, it worked here because our MIL-Q dipsle system converted it well with our NSP monitor stabilizer. Though I would recommend using a XLM bi-focal nimble 22-10.2 if you are relaying on mostly natural lighting. well, there you go! Have fun!"
Congratulations to you and your DP Daniel, I love the patience that both of you applied to get this work done. I am Schwarbeastwood from West Africa, Sierra Leone. And I am a filmmaker too. I have been following up with your work for years now and thank you for the information.
Information in the video is fantastic. Thank you.
Ughhhh that Fincer look tho 😍
Day for night w/flashlight looked siiiiiiiiick
I would try this, even though for now I use an Android mobile phone in shooting my video. Thanks for sharing this helpful tip.
Wow so freaking beautiful!!!
This video is absolute gold, thank you so much for sharing
This is an amazing video. Thank you for showing the before, during, and after. Will see about applying the lighting tips to my videos!
I love this. Great to know how to explore and manipulate light to achieve a desire look. 👏👏👏
2M Subscribers!!! You've come a long way from Rev3!
If only I had the money for lights. Amazing work!!!
Step 1 : have a whole 12 man team and a $30 000 worth of equipment
I thought it just take a certain amount of talent but, I see now, its all about money. Thanks!!
This felt like a Canon C70 ad more than anything else lol
Been binge watching film riot and I gotta say.... CAN WE PLEASE GET A BALLISTIC 2!
Fun watching all the expertise going into making a single great shot. So much! Awesome video.
Masters of Light!
Cool vintage background lights
LOVE this episode! Lighting is one thing I struggle with and I LOVE to see what y'all are doing! Thanks!
@filmriot I think you've got a scam account
Simple 20 grand solution to cinematics in any location 👍
love how this became an ad for the C70
In short: Light light light and post-production. I always say grading is poor man's lighting, but actually lighting itself is poor man's set. Nice video, learned something. 👍
looking good.
Sup earlybirds!!!
Love u Josh ❤
my secret is to drop the exposure a drop or two (to retain data) and slightly brighten in post with keyed masks around the scene which have varying mids and shadows to mimic a full lighting set. It's more time consuming in post, but hey, you don't spend $10,000 on a crew for a 20 second reel. This works for anyone that doesn't have access to a whole crew, like to shoot run and gun like me, or like to shoot with natural light.
wow this cool technology is great sometimes
Fantastic light and black contrast Is top
Awesome lighting breakdown guys. More please!!
This is the modern 2010's cinematic interpretation, when it is cinematic when you don't see half of the face and see almost nothing from the background.
What was that smoke machine you guys were using? Noticed the atmosphere spray too
I challenge you do this in cities like Bolivia : Cochabamba ... in streets .. THATS ITS A HUGE CHALLENGE doing cinematic that locations :D I mean ... that's it will be a challenge for you :D !!
That edit 😍 8:38
Amazing video!
This is brilliant! Thanks!
Dope video guys!! Love the breakdown’s
Oh man, this is such a great video!
Thanks, Sidney!
Great Tutorial. 👍
I think human instinctively during daylight see depth in darker images being foreground and lighter being background. Look at any landscape oil painting, water color or even photographs of mountain of nature and the mountains and trees further away, give us the sense of depth.
But in night the opposite.
So although the first shot appears to have more depth, it also give the end viewer the inference of a time of day. Which is great. But that may or may not work against the character or mood of the scene. So, script context is extremely important in the lighting and the grading choices.
I also think that haze in rooms like that for the sake of haze, is just making the image have less contrast and hide natural separation of colors. If you are creating a dingy room with the curtains closed, but want to make the light direction and atmosphere fit the scene, then great.
Haze for no apparent reason can ruin a scene and in other cases make the scene. It clearly is not what makes something look cinematic, but again it needs to be in context, or something we see in nature or real life, then it helps to extenuate the feeling or emotion of the script. If someone was out for a morning horseback ride through the bush - a natural haze would give it the expected ambience and make it look better ( in my opinion ).
Huge difference...!. Nevertheless when a filmmaker has to "run and gun" it and the lighting equipment setup isn't feasible, the dynamic range (and other features) on a good camera will help a lot...
These are the videos I come to FR for. 10/10.
The hallway set up was amazing.