Don Giovanni - Commendatore scene (Furtwängler)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2007
  • The Commendatore scene in the 1954 version (Salzburg Festival).
    Cesare Siepi - Don Giovanni
    Otto Edelmann - Leporello
    Dezsö Ernster - the Commendatore
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  • @wolterzz3267
    @wolterzz3267 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This is how every Commendatore scene should sound. Slowly building up to the big climax.

  • @woncho99
    @woncho99 14 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My favorite Bass of all times, Cesare Siepi passed away on July 5, 2010.
    Rest in Peace, Maestro Siepi. You were the greatest.

  • @funkycatglasses01
    @funkycatglasses01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Furtwangler of course is phenomenal🤩. But the singers though🤯. Thank you for posting!

  • @FabioPBarbieri
    @FabioPBarbieri 15 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Cesare Siepi was a superb actor in a wholly operatic mode - standing still or measuring the stage, but always in the service of the character. He has got Don Giovanni exactly right - the way he is continuously nerving himself up, forcing himself to do something he knows is insane, just because "a torto di viltate tacciato mai saro'" - he does not want to be called a coward. And that is how the Statue ensnares him. This is the best Don, as a piece of acting, I have seen so far.

  • @johnspradling7906
    @johnspradling7906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Terrifying scene and acting. Furtwaengler draws superhuman power from the music and the scene. Dated visually, but very well sung, and the effect cannot be argued. Superb.

  • @godzilloid
    @godzilloid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    His voice is great, and he acts out the arrogance of the character perfect.

  • @murrayaronson3753
    @murrayaronson3753 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The first Don Giovanni I ever saw in March 1966 at the old Metropolitan Opera House was with Cesare Siepi. Alfredo Kraus was Don Ottavio. Pilar Lorengar, Justino Diaz, Fernando Corena, and Theodor Uppman were also in the cast. I was too young to realize how outstanding a performance this was. Sometimes youth is wasted on the young.

    • @jjrj8568
      @jjrj8568 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poetic comment; sometimes I think "growing up/getting older" is about fully grasping the things I discovered (but didn't fully understand/appreciate) during my youth, classical music/opera included

    • @allenjones3130
      @allenjones3130 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd have to take a guess that Corena sang Leporello, Uppman played Masetto, and Diaz portrayed the Commendatore. "Don Giovanni" is one of those operas that beg to be performed by an all-star cast.

  • @BorisGodunov
    @BorisGodunov 16 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It IS slow, but that's because Furtwangler wrings every note out of it. It's magnificent.

    • @VallinSFAS
      @VallinSFAS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wagnerian. I think Mozart was trying to lead to this. Definitely in his swan song Requiem.

  • @talvela100
    @talvela100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Registrazione storica di enorme valore. Siepi è immenso!

  • @Johnny1206
    @Johnny1206 16 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Siepi and Furtwängler!!! This is absolutely a perfect match, never to be equaled.

  • @marcmo2004
    @marcmo2004 16 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The slow tempo makes it more powerfull and this enhances the magnificient voices of Siepi and Deszo. Despite the two same tone of voice (bass), this is a great performance led by Furthwangler.

  • @BaldricOutremer
    @BaldricOutremer 16 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    In my opinion, the slow tempo is absolutely perfect for the scene. The one moment when it could be a bit faster is when the Commendatore is urging Don Giovanni to repent.
    Siepi is an incredible singer, a good actor and likely the best Don Giovanni I've ever heard.

    • @saracaselanizilio4627
      @saracaselanizilio4627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree! Siepi is the best don Giovanni ever

    • @2gtomkins
      @2gtomkins 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's nothing wrong with Siepi's singing, but whoever is responsible for that bit of stage business where he tries to stab the statue (at 4:26) should be shot at dawn.

  • @shakaama
    @shakaama 16 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    god giovanni's siepi's voice is ridiculously good. he's like a fog horn across the water, just warning you not to come near. it's as clear as a bell and as strong as the sun on the sahara dessert.

  • @ecisme10
    @ecisme10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Siepi did a great job as Giovanni. It was slowed a bit from how I normally hear it but it works. I think his acting was great because it wasn't too subtle or static and wasn't super over the top. Glad I found this.

  • @aladarmiklosdr.szentkiraly7548
    @aladarmiklosdr.szentkiraly7548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Perfect ! Furtwangler s tempo...the orchestra.........simply the best

  • @tiago3m
    @tiago3m 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wow! Most perfect interpretation I've ever heard. Sublime, perfect, creepy! Slow and deep, perfect driving!

  • @AlBarathur
    @AlBarathur 12 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No other version I have seen so far is so dramatic as this one. Thank you for uploading it was refreshing.

  • @alejandrosotomartin9720
    @alejandrosotomartin9720 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    outstanding sound, incredible orchestra, how lucky we are to hear this

  • @sas147741
    @sas147741 13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm almost in tears, this is so beautiful....

  • @fernandsanchis9881
    @fernandsanchis9881 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Très impressionnant! Sublimes voix, mise en scène effrayante, musique extraordinaire! Un grand moment, à la hauteur du mythe!

  • @adityapurohit8232
    @adityapurohit8232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A gem of a performance.
    All three characters are performed with great authority,
    Furtwangler's sublime conducting adds to the tension of the scenes.
    Thanks for loading.

    • @voraciousreader3341
      @voraciousreader3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Sublime conducting,” with a tempo twice as slow as was conducted then or now?? I don’t know if it’s the conductor’s tempo or if the film has been slowed down, but it’s horrible, whichever way is the truth.

  • @natashkk
    @natashkk 15 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Incredible!! What good conduction of the orchestra!! And the singers are sublime!! 5 stars!!

  • @Lordofdeath127
    @Lordofdeath127 12 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    greatest music ever written....

  • @shalva92
    @shalva92 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    ყველაზე მაგარი ოპერაა ოპერათა შორის!
    Best opera of all time!
    Лучшая опера всех времён!

  • @donboia
    @donboia 15 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I just love this version of the Don Giovanni's Commendatore scene. Both singers are awesome, and the timing followed by the director is just perfect to create the feeling of... "fear/affraid/suspense" to the public. Just perfect. Bravo!

  • @idaspe
    @idaspe 14 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a DonGiovanni!!! Great voice, so deep...!!!

  • @JmmrtnzYT
    @JmmrtnzYT 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What a wonderful version! It's epic!!!

  • @arturogrady9064
    @arturogrady9064 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The best Don Giovanni

  • @dagobert54
    @dagobert54 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    voilà comment deux artistes extraordinaires chantaient il y a soixante trois ans
    j'ai monté le son pour apprécier ce duo de rêve
    chapeau !

  • @shaguree
    @shaguree 16 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The most powerful scene from Don Giovanni!!!

  • @faye872
    @faye872 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The demands of this opera on singers and orchestra are just so great. Technically and emotionally. It is really terrifying.

  • @HellasItalia4
    @HellasItalia4 14 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Cesare Siepi (1923-2010)
    Il mondo ha perso uno dei piu grandi cantanti di sempre. Grazie Cesare

  • @kuglagerfeld
    @kuglagerfeld 14 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the best commendatore scene ever!

    • @A3MinuteEgg
      @A3MinuteEgg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vladimir Gligoric ikr!!

  • @agadigby
    @agadigby 14 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    absolutely timeless!

  • @kid926
    @kid926 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cesare Siepi In don giovanni davvero insuperabile una voce che fa tremare i muri

  • @OperaSamia
    @OperaSamia 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The BEST from the 20th Century! Can't wait to see what follows!!!

  • @FabioPBarbieri
    @FabioPBarbieri 15 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And notice how often his hands go up to his neck - it is as if he is feeling the noose tightening there.

  • @ElisabettaVS
    @ElisabettaVS 14 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wonderful music, only my dog goes crazy listening to this xD She barks whenever the statue sings xD

    • @A3MinuteEgg
      @A3MinuteEgg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ElisabettaVS lol

  • @mirjamdevries9376
    @mirjamdevries9376 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Per me la più emozionante tra le scene finali del Commendatore: Don Giovanni che cerca di colpire uno spirito con il suo pugnale! Due grandi e stupefacenti bassi profondi a confronto.🔥👍

  • @ksh430
    @ksh430 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    the best don giovanni

  • @matthewlaurence3121
    @matthewlaurence3121 10 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    It frustrates me that I cannot find such shows of operas in Germany to-day. The performances can be terrific, but this business of putting the performers in modern clothes in 21st century set-surroundings and adding a little gretuitous nudity now and again detract from the majesty of the material.

    • @lizardking02793
      @lizardking02793 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree with the modern clothes in the 21st century, but as to the nudity, I think it depends on the opera. For instance, I saw a version of Tannhauser where the woman playing Venus undressed completely in the scene where she tries to appease him, before banishing him. In that instance I think it fit for the scene.

    • @thomasborgsmidt304
      @thomasborgsmidt304 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lizardking02793 The problem with nudity in opera is that most sopranos are a bit to the plumb side - if not downright fat!

    • @lizardking02793
      @lizardking02793 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So what, the music is great still. and not most are fat. i've seen many thin sopranos and some of the the world's best sopranos are thin. Anna Netrebko, Renee Flemming waltraud meier, Natalie Dessay, and Angela Gheorghiu

    • @thomasborgsmidt304
      @thomasborgsmidt304 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmm.... Your comments have had me thinking: The problem is that it is difficult to detach the music from time. I'm not here talking about fashion which is sort of cyclic thing allowing pottery to be dated with a precision of 30-40 years. Fashion makes Lauritz Melchiors stage dress up with winged helmets and the works seem downright ludicrus. No - I'm talking about detaching Händels music from its time. You can play it on the periods instruments, but most of them were terrible by todays standard. Crumhorns f.i. cannot be kept tuned, say little and are generally a lot of trouble for meagre results - so much in fact, that by todays standard it is not possible to earn a living as a musician. A lot of the music is composed to get around the limitations of the instruments - the harpsicord and chembalo make trills because that was the only way to keep a tone ringing. It is problematic to substitute an electric guitar for a lute. Few want to reintroduce castration to provide the cast for a Händel opera - quite apart from the wastage: 1000 castrated to produce one acceptable performer. We are all products of our time and nostalgia isn't what it used to be: Any historian knowing anything of a period would want to go back in time to the renaissance and its disease and poverty ridden hell-hole.

    • @thomasborgsmidt304
      @thomasborgsmidt304 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lizardking02793 Were thin: That is the operative word. The fact is that most women get a bit on the heavy side with age. As to the quality of sopranos then we could point to Maria Callas that bantered and lost voice. The fashion with thin women and models is more marketing related. Models are thin, because that makes the costoumer recongnise the dress on the rack. But my real issue is that I consider nudety on singers an insult to the singers: Just look how Cecilia Bartoli suffers because she hasn't a great dress to show off in stage productions.

  • @GGbreizh
    @GGbreizh 11 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Furtwängler in colour, impressive. The great man unfortunately died short after this performance.

  • @user-ph4tm8ps2e
    @user-ph4tm8ps2e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Merci pour cette version.

  • @hymnodyhands
    @hymnodyhands 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is really slow by today's standards ... but as a composer I like how I can distinguish every note in every instrument, and thus HOW Mozart created this rich tapestry of drama... an expected treat on top of the splendid acting and singing!

    • @EmilyGloeggler7984
      @EmilyGloeggler7984 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no splendid vocal acting here.

    • @Jeff-lf4hy
      @Jeff-lf4hy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@EmilyGloeggler7984what Are you talking about idiot.
      This is legendary. One of the best don Giovannis EVER

  • @ub12581
    @ub12581 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Questa versione dell'Opera è FANTASTICA e io ho la fortuna di averlo in dvd! Cesare Siepi è il migliore Don Giovanni di tutti i tempi, seguito solo da T. Allen

    • @qwerty6383
      @qwerty6383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pls upload with better quality :3

  • @user-rp6pw8ul8c
    @user-rp6pw8ul8c 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tears coming from my eyes for this great performance. Gives me chills.

  • @kuangsu
    @kuangsu 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    una statua di bronzo o pietra che sia NON PUO' avere una voce umana , trovo il vibrato della statua del Commendatore una soluzione geniale , A DIR POCO !!!!!!!!!!! ... un CESARE SIEPI degno figlio di APOLLO ... passeranno i secoli prima di avere un DON GIOVANNI DI QUESTA LEVATURA ,,,,, GRANDISSIMO FURTWANGLER ..... GRAZIE !!!!!!! ...

  • @ceci1993chap
    @ceci1993chap 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    è la migliore opera mai concepita e scritta

  • @juliekoerner4710
    @juliekoerner4710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ruth Bader Ginsberg and I, think this is the greatest opera and the commentadore scene the greatest scene in opera.

  • @Gorboduc
    @Gorboduc 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone who complains that this is too slow really doesn't deserve to listen to it.

  • @shadboltbill
    @shadboltbill 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Three basses onstage at once! Heaven!

  • @FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930
    @FranciscoFerrerGaliana1930 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Simplemente impresionante.

  • @davidkahil5158
    @davidkahil5158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Furtwangler always did the best stuff

  • @natasolen
    @natasolen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Semplicemente geniale!! Se adesso cantassero cosi!!

  • @paulostroff99
    @paulostroff99 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @woncho99 -R.I.P.Cesare Siepi.One of the all time greats. We shall always remember you.

  • @daepi199
    @daepi199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    06:03 Siepi's scream is real super fucking sexy and his "oime" sounds really cold.

  • @florencioigual
    @florencioigual ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a pity this old recording didn't benefit from today's technology. Such a powerful rendition

  • @Norman1566
    @Norman1566 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a great admirer of this wonderful artist, the role of Don Giovanni was taylor made for him. I was fortunated to see him at the Met with Fernado Corena as Leporello, what a duo those two made when they were performing together. This is a great role for a strong Basso cantante, very demanding.
    Norberto Torriente

  • @morecassoulet
    @morecassoulet 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a gem.

  • @paga123
    @paga123 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic and very different from the today version.s
    The best quality of this version : it is disturbing !
    yann

  • @clivepapayanis3121
    @clivepapayanis3121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Despite "slow" tempi, not always consistently "perfect" singing there is no better document of this opera in its entirety than this performance. Dare you to find one.

  • @langengro
    @langengro 14 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At 1:55, when they painfully extend the grave
    "Altre cure più gravi di queste",
    Don Giovannis bodily movement appears to freeze with the music.

  • @veristaconvicto9881
    @veristaconvicto9881 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Splendido!

    • @brunopreisjunior8489
      @brunopreisjunior8489 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      comece com trios,quartetos, sinfonias.depois a opera. opera e o topo. o topo da evoluçao musical.

  • @albertoserrarsm5658
    @albertoserrarsm5658 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brividi

  • @kuddelfranz20001
    @kuddelfranz20001 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phänomenal Danke

  • @TS57ovr4
    @TS57ovr4 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Goethefemme It's not that basses were not popular; they were were quite common in leading roles, actually. It was the baritone part that was not often significant role and was not written as "baritone", but actually as just another bass. Baritones did not come into popularity until the late Classical/ Early Romantic periods.

  • @wotan20
    @wotan20 16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like it this way, something almost like a Wagnerian drama. Reminds me the Flying Dutchman in its dark, sweeping emotions.

  • @elijah24567
    @elijah24567 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent.

  • @blakecarterpiano
    @blakecarterpiano 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This version captures the feeling of hell pretty well.

  • @bebetonguga
    @bebetonguga 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me pone la piel de gallina... Realmente es genial!!!

  • @pietroarvizzigno4417
    @pietroarvizzigno4417 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superbo

  • @Antipaavi
    @Antipaavi 16 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This strikes me! The musical interpretation is good and the singers act exceptionally well. The tempo is indeed slow, but it creates a very doomsday-like atmosphere. I wish I could only find it on VHS or DVD. Selkaen, do you know if this is acquistable somewhere? Where did you get it from?

    • @edmundcampion9888
      @edmundcampion9888 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I very much agree. The slow temp helps us to realize how terrifying this scene is.

  • @ReachRoadSedg
    @ReachRoadSedg 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quite magnificent. Life can be lived, but death cannot be denied
    Thank you.

  • @ombra004
    @ombra004 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mi sconvolge ogni volta!!!

  • @harmonieautog
    @harmonieautog 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ernsters' voice was never the same after he was released from Bergen-Belsen concentration camp. Truly a pity....the vibrato was very limited prior to his imprisonment there.

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never got a chance to see this Opera in a theater, but now I can check out many versions and singers. I really love seeing the different ways it's interpreted. I've seen only a few Operas in my life but Mozart's are the best.

  • @paulostroff99
    @paulostroff99 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stunning performance.TY. selkaen

  • @rosy3385
    @rosy3385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sublime même si c'est ancien !!!

  • @KingUnic
    @KingUnic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice tempo!👍

  • @francescaemc2
    @francescaemc2 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respond to this video... Thank you for posting this, from the bottom of my heart. Grazie mille!!!!!!

  • @Selkaen
    @Selkaen  16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, I wrote it as I saw it written. Thank you for correcting.

  • @sweetaliena
    @sweetaliena 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking the same thing! The closest embodiment of this version is the Kurt Moll version.

    • @debradorfman7940
      @debradorfman7940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Moll also sings the low D at the end.

  • @penkoviq
    @penkoviq 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutely correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @robertanico
    @robertanico 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agghiacciante, bellissimo.

  • @raynardi7243
    @raynardi7243 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    da brivido

  • @AdrianMutu87
    @AdrianMutu87 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    by far the best

  • @yarisricky
    @yarisricky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible powerful version ! Was the score reorchestrated by W.F. or is it Mozart original?

  • @lucreziaborgia5798
    @lucreziaborgia5798 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Der steinerne Gast..

  • @paga123
    @paga123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi
    It is my favorite opera piece and I am a real fan of Furtwängler , in Beethoven specifically.
    Here I am a bit mitigate : I like the conception (slow and momumental) but the realization seems not really efficient : perhaps a gap between the singer (Siepi) and the director (Furtwängler), like a gap between the fire and the ice? I don' t know.
    This version seems very disturbing and this is nevertheless a quality here !
    Greetings

  • @MsSkuli
    @MsSkuli 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    non riesco a respirare!!!! la perfezione riesce a farti diventar di marmo!!

  • @miguelmouta
    @miguelmouta 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dont you think that it steals both the rythm, and the message , Selkaen ? I mean , about changing Mozarts usual communication with symbolic objects and musical elements . Thank you for sharing this beautiful vídeo.

  • @drcajus
    @drcajus 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The greatest conductor that ever lived.

  • @theprivateer83
    @theprivateer83 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Furtwängler IS GOD

  • @shalva92
    @shalva92 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    სიეპი ყველა დროის ყველაზე უფრო დიდი კულტურის მქონე ბანია
    Siepi is all-time greatest bass

  • @JmmrtnzYT
    @JmmrtnzYT 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Este Don Giovanni a cenar teco más lento, más trágico, con un comendador pétreo y con una tremenda actuación no sé si será superado alguna vez... pa q hablar de la calidad del reparto de la versión!

  • @francescaemc2
    @francescaemc2 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @woncho99
    Maestro Siepi was a baritone. You are correct about the greatest part:)

  • @BaritoneDeLaTorre
    @BaritoneDeLaTorre 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, Don Giuanni is for baritone, but Cesare Siepi was bass.

  • @miguelmouta
    @miguelmouta 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good version. Also , the first one I see , dressings and scenario are historically correct. But I dont remember that Lorenzo da Ponte did put the murder trial ,on libretto ( 04:26).

  • @Selkaen
    @Selkaen  16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kinda agree after all, I like a faster tempo.

  • @5758Wanderer
    @5758Wanderer 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @francescaemc2 Completamente d'accordo...i grandi come Furtwangler, Knappertsbusch, Klemperer sono e resteranno sempre unici ed inimitabili.
    Oggi invece c'è Barenboim; e con questo ho proprio detto tutto...