Amazon prime reviews of beetlejuice 2 shows 5 stars out of 78,000 reviews that shows the public has very low standards and is too easily entertained now days...
@@hardcutreviews unfortunately it's hard to tell how bad it really even is (think Rotten Tomatoes effect) - for all we know it's Amazon removing most negative reviews as part of the almighty psyop
My thoughts on this one can be summed up by a quote from the late Gene Siskel - ‘I liked it while I was watching it and as soon as it was over, it didn’t mean anything to me.’ A lot of the jokes landed for me on first viewing but the more I think back on the film, the more problems I have with it. The script is way too busy, there’s too many plot threads that don’t go anywhere, Winona Ryder is just playing herself instead of how Lydia was established in the first movie etc. . Something else you I don’t think you mentioned was all the musical sequences. There’s like 5 or 6 different musical sequences in this movie (as opposed to the 2 iconic ones from the original) and it just feels ultra forced. Like they’re trying desperately hard to create the next “Day-O” moment. I wouldn’t call the film outright awful. It has some fun moments. Overall though? Not as good as the original.
41 here. Remember the classic original fondly but refuse to see this one because I know it’s a dumbed down version of Beetlejuice and a remake technically too. Same gags. No Jeffery Jones either. I get it because of his criminal record but Hollywood still allows other criminals back after five-ten years? Wth? Great discussion guys. Subbed.
Hello, thank-you for posting your review of this movie. I found this movie really, really bad also. Many other reviews call this movie very good, like 8/10 to 10/10! Really? I give it a max of 4/10 and being generous. I am no professional critic and many people out there loved this movie, so I guess we are some of the rare ones who did not like this movie even though it made millions and that it was is important for the filmmakers. The good news is that I still have the first movie to watch again to make me forget this one!
You mentioned bad pacing, scenes or jokes going on too long. I'm seeing that a LOT in movies now. 2016 Ghostbusters being the worst example. Watching the old 80's movies (like The Lost Boys), they were tightly scripted and edited, and it's hard to believe what they successfully packed into 90 minute run times
It was like a Netflix or Tv movie. Winona Ryder was right, Bj and Lydz should have gotten together and gotten married. But why did they make BJ a simp. He wanted to marry Lydia to escape the afterlife, he didn’t care about her he just needed a way out and she wanted a way in, in the first movie. Tim should have rewatched the original and played by the correct story rules. Burton and Lucas just don’t do that and wing it.
Juno mentions in the first film that they have to stay in the house for 125 years before they can move on. They didn’t want to bother with that pesky detail from the first film so… magical loophole.
I thought that it was okay. Definitely not as good as the original but the original was like lightning in a bottle situation with how everything fell into place creating for a kooky memorable film. I thought the sequel was okay in the sense that the dark vibe was there and I liked how it still used practical effects for most of it. I thought Lydia's character was alright in the sense that I could see her mellowing out a bit after dealing with her depression in the original. I enjoyed her for what she was but I do understand and even agree that she did feel a little off. I also agree that the plot hole was dumb with where she can see ghosts but can't see her ex-husband and when it was revealed that he worked in the afterlife, for a second it made it understandable but then he drops the "I check in on you two" line and thus opened that hole. It would've been better if they had Lydia lie that she couldn't see him and that could've been the (seen coming) second twist. I honestly though Michael Keaton was great. Yeah he's aged and you can feel that in the sequel but I think he was still able to tap into the character and deliver a fun performance. Catherine O'Hara, I'll admit I did find myself chuckling at a few of her quips and I enjoyed her character but in hindsight, I do see what people are saying now that it didn't really feel like "Delia". I haven't seen Schitt's work so I'm not familiar with the character she plays there but I will concede that it feels like she may have put a little too much kookiness into the character. But despite that, I still enjoyed her. As for Jenna Ortega as Astrid, this is my first time seeing Jenna Ortega act (I haven't watched Wednesday and I haven't seen "You") and to me, the acting just a felt a bit too monotone at times. I haven't seen Wednesday but I heard that's the main shtick she does and it feels like maybe she tried to put her Wednesday role into Astrid and well, it just comes off a bit bland. I know she's the big horror girl of this moment and she might be good in other things but for this character, she was just okay. Honestly the worst part of the movie for me was the ex-wife plot. The idea was interesting and I liked the backstory but the execution in how she was handled through the majority of the movie was horrible. She barely does anything and just when you think there will be a big showdown between her and Beetlejuice, she's taken out in like 20 seconds. Just awful. Also the Soul Train scene, I thought it was cute that it was a little throwback to the show of the same name but I agree that the sequence went on for a little too long. Anyway I do agree that the film had too many plots going on and it really should've stuck with one or two, not like 3-5. My choice would've been the ex-wife plot and had it fleshed out more. But eh, it is what it is. I didn't mind this film, it was okay and after seeing the Crow remake that was just awful, this was a nice refresher, at least for me anyway.
Appreciate the comment and your measured take on the film. There are good things here like you mentioned. Good practicals, when they are used, and that underworld aesthetic felt like a good continuation from the original. They just needed to stick to a singular plot and put all their eggs into that basket. A tighter story would have really benefited this film. Keaton is obviously great and our criticism is mostly on a script and direction level with his character. Under different circumstances it would have been like he played the original character yesterday. Ortega, whatever. She wasn’t bad, wasn’t great either. We were digging the plot of the ghost boy that she trusted and betrayed her as a nice counter to Lydia befriending ghosts in the original and they are good. Would have been a nice reversal for this film. His wife was not fleshed out enough at all. She pops up for a couple scenes and is completely wasted. Overall a mess but we get we’re in the minority on this one, haha.
@@hardcutreviews Right, I mean I do like the original film quite a bit and I'd be lying if I said this movie was "fantastic". I agree that had they stuck to one plot, things would've flowed much better. The plot with Astrid and the ghost boy was good and thinking about it, I would scrap the ex-wife plot and save it for the third movie (because it's obvious there will be one lol) and instead, just focus on Astrid and this seemingly friendly ghost boy. Lydia could be trusting at first and through clues dropped, she picks up that the boy isn't who he seems to be which causes an argument with her and Astrid, the story beat continues like the movie we got where the boy tricks Astrid into going to the afterlife and yada yada. Lydia desperately (but reluctantly) enlists Beetlejuice for help. No wedding scene and instead, maybe have the ghost boy manage to get Astrid into that moon of Saturn world and Lydia and Beetlejucie go there to find her and have a showdown with a sandworm. I dunno, it's something haha. They really didn't need two serious plots going on though is al,l, both were interesting ideas but they should've focused on one or the other first though again, the ex-wife plot would've been best served for a finale movie aka the third where more focus can be on Beetlejuice himself. But yeah, it's just that after watching the Crow Remake that I really didn't like, seeing this movie despite it's fault felt like some nice breathing room and I'd rather watch this than sit through Crow 2024 again lol.
@@KaiDecadence This is 100 times better than The Crow remake despite our problems with it, haha. I guess we were fed up with the potential that was wasted. You could make the case that people really wanted this sequel so there was a lot riding on it and it will be successful. Nobody was expecting The Crow remake to be good.
@@hardcutreviews That's fair lol Even when it was announced that the Crow was being remade, I think it's safe to say most of us gave a groan of annoyance. And then the trailer dropped and it was the face palm heard around the world lol. When I saw it, I tried to go in with very low expectations and even then, I just felt bored and annoyed. I think what helps with Beetlejucie though is that even the original film didn't take itself too seriously and even though the sequel didn't hit the mark 100%, the effort was there (just needed more thought and maybe one or two final drafts). The spirit was there in and out of places and that makes it serviceable enough as a popcorn flick that you may watch once or twice and be done.
Now, this is a honest review. Everyone is loving this piece of garbage. I know many "reviewers" are scared of calling the bs, scared of losing viewers and subscribers, scared of being canceled and I hate those fake reviewers. This is how reviews show be done, with honesty
Right because saying you liked an entertaining movie means youre afraid of getting cancelled. You found a channel that agreed with you. Doesnt mean anything objective. Touch grass
@gwendyp125 i reviewed your comment and determined it was trash. Seems like you are scared of having your own opinion and are content spewing bs. I would suggest you go out and touch grass, but you would probably break out in hives from fresh air.
@hardcutreviews i can definitely see why. I have disliked things that everyone else seemed to love, and vice-versa. I had to stop having expectations. Many were expecting this to be just like the original and were let down. You are very right about him being neutered tho lol. I didn't know exactly what it was as i was watching it What was up, But As soon as you said it and called out exactly how he was in the original, it all clicked. He was less vulgar and creepy in this one lol. Creepy as in pervert. They definitely did the grotesque creepy well still at least!
@hardcutreviews as long as you recognize you are in the minority I can totally respect that. I guess my expectations were not as high but regardless I laughed my head off in the theater. I'm genuinely sad you all didn't
Perfect interpretation and analysis of this film. You hit every note that I felt walking out of the theatre. You just earned yourself another subscriber and champion for your channel! Keep up the great work, guys!
Was gonna watch this with my girlfriend last night but we got in a fight and she watched it on her own. I am glad I didn’t have to sit through this shit show.
The Soul Train was a reference to the TV dance show Soul Train from the 70's. The man that was acting as the conductor was meant to look like Don Cornelius the show's host and creator.
I think Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is a great example of one of the biggest issues modern movies have (in addition to the cast needing to be cut down by half): none of the characters have any goals. Everyone in this movie is just reacting to the world moving around them, nobody has anything they particularly want or a goal they are pursuing.
I agree. I'm happy I saw it and the first 2/3rd of the movie was really working for me. But that end happened way too quickly and really felt like this movie needed a part 2 to actually make all these storylines work
Honestly I love Beetlejuice I wouldn't even care if he was on a cereal box I love Beetlejuice this movie was great and that's my opinion so and I'll definitely watch it a thousand more times
Love the channel! It’s awesome seeing real reviews rather than watered down carefully calculated reviews to keep bright colored hair folks on Twitter happy. Keep it up guys!!
The film would be better without all the subplots. Beetlejuice seems to still be sleazy even in the second film. The sexual harassment was toned down but he forced a fake pregnancy on Lydia.
I read something about when Tim Burton was asked why the Maitlands are not in the sequel. He said the Maitlands are ghosts and that they never age. I felt that was a lame excuse to not at least include Geena Davis since she still looks gorgeous! There's things that could have made this film as much a masterpiece as the first film. But it has these very awkward moments that could be altered to make some scenes work better or removed entirely. The stop motion segment looked like right out of James and the Giant Peach. Cool, but i'm not sure it fits for this movie. No epic Harry Belafonte Shake Shake Senora sequence. I wanted more of Monica Belucci's character but it felt like a whole scene or something got cut in the third act. The stakes were real but then abruptly over. The whole bit with Astrid's father felt unnecessary. It's a very confusing line because it bounces back and forth off of deciding if it wants to be a Beetlejuice sequel or a live action adaption of the cartoon, which is cool too, but you can't make both work in a film. Maybe two films, one where it's buddy co-op and then set up for a selfish hidden agenda in a third film or something. However I think you guys hit the nail on the head in terms of how the first film is a crazy wacky story but told well.
Now that was cool you guys changing the physical logo sign to green-themed. A subtle nod to practical effects. 😉 As for Beetlejuice 2, it isn’t bad, it isn’t great. It had plenty of opportunity of being better, especially after all this time. I mean, Top Gun 2 set the best example! Beetlejuice 2 felt like a slapdash script, or-a now dated reference-a straight to DVD sequel.
Anyone wanna talk about how it's brought up Lydia's actual mother isn't dead? She wasn't at her father's funeral and seemingly is actually closer to the step mom whom she once seemed to hate. Maybe I'm missing something from the first film, why is her real mom Mia from Lydia's life?
yes the Maitlands made Lydia want to live they made her believe in GOD at the end of the movie should wouldn't dissect a frog because it was against her religion
The writing is terrible. That's not Beetlejuice. Not in the slightest the same characters. It felt empty and pointless. The entire movie, you're thinking some things would happen, but nothing does.Boring plot boring screenplay. Also very confusing. Jumbled mess of a movie.
6:00 was my biggest issue with this.. Even if they didn't keep them in the movie , they could have at least shown them With their distorted monster faces With different actors in their clothes With a little back story of how they moved on..
One of the many problems with this film is that the ending opens up for another sequel. Which is very wrong as this film had no real story to begin with, but only several small stories. I.e. it was more important to try to make this film become a series of films than to try to create a complete story.
A singular plot would have gone a long way with this film. It was a total mess and it suffered for it. It spread itself way too thin instead of placing all of its care and attention on one great story.
The only funny parts were with Keaton and he wasn't in it very much. Burton has DEFINITELY lost a lot of his past skill. During the last scene, when they realize that O'Hara had actually died, no biggie! The snakes had fangs, right? Oh well, c-ya! Really? So she was fighting to not be dead and then suddenly she was okay with it, and her daughter and granddaughter realize she's dead and being taken to the afterlife but, "meh, oh well." The film was all over the place, reminding me of an old Chinese Kung-Fu film that couldn't make up its mind if it wanted to be a drama, tragedy, slapstick, farce, or action film. I was really excited to see it, hoping for something GOOD -- which hasn't happened often in recent years -- but it left me sighing. Oh well.
New subscriber. You speak the truth and please keep talking like me and my friends. Fuck this no talent cash grab rehash bullshit excuse for filmmaking.
Tantamount to saying: "Instead of digging up Shannen Doherty's corpse and boning the ever-living hell out of that shit, I'm going to making seducing Holly Marie Combs my life's mission". A remarkably tepid upgrade
The plot thread of Astrid's dad actually does make sense: Lydia can only see ghosts on earth, and Lydia's dead husband can't vist earth because be has a job in the afterlife working the ticket booth. They don't have an explosion dump, but it works.
The sequel should've been primarily focused on the story between Astrid and the ghost boy. That was the only aspect that felt interesting and dangerous . They should've drawn that out a lot more. Lead the audience to ship this couple and then shock us, not because he was a ghost (which was obvious), but because he turns out to be an evil ghost. All the shit with Justin Theoraux and Monica Belucci had no bearing on anything. Completely unnecessary characters. Delia Deetz, needed to be there, but yeah, maybe with more character development? I dunno. They could've kept the dead dad plot, but gave it more stakes in the resolution. The disco music though-line was meant to echo the calypso music though-line of the original, but it made no sense. In the original, the Maitlands listen to Harry Belafonte in the first scene. They were fans. Why the diso music in the sequel?
Beetlejuice on xanax after a long talk with Human Resources Department. I could see the difference just watching the trailer but i hoped it was jist a fluke about the scenes they chose. Nope. It's literally just old ass, tired version of Beetlejuice. "The ghost is toast" should be the tagline. I also hate fan service. Instead of being creative and coming up with new material, they just re-filmed all the viral scenes from 1988 like "Hey remember this? You loved this scene before so here it is again, just low testosterone." They do that shit with every single legacy sequel like they can't think of anything else. I hate Hollywood and the film industry is toast. 80s and 90s were peak film quality. Computers and greed killed the movie biz.
Finally. Someone say how bad this movie is. All the other reviews I've watched made it sound like the movie is so good. This movie should have not been made.
All these 80's and 90's remakes and sequels don't work. The fact being..there was no PC (political correctness) in movies, there were fun, open minded with no boundaries... now movies are controlled and limited by political correctness, gender and interracial inclusion... the focus in no longer on the art of the movie.. but who it will appeal to..and not offend... For example... The Breakfast Club, one of the greatest movies of the 80's, would have NEVER made it on the screen just based on the locker scene 3:45 min into the movie alone.
I really don't think they could have gotten away with portraying Beetlejuice as the same level of sleazy scumbag he was in the original without also downplaying the humorous aspects of his character. A small but vocal section of the audience would probably freak out seeing a despicable and perverted character being played for laughs.
Agreed with everything and I thought Winona Ryder and the Lydia character was the worst part of the movie. I understand you’re not the same person you were at 15, but they didn’t set it up like she had a major change. WHAT HAPPENED to make smart, strong, dry, sardonic Lydia this neurotic, naive fragile woman who falls for a jr Otho?
I remember watching this movie with my wife, and we honestly said the same exact thing. The music for the ending was too long the soul train was funny but man do they drag it so it wasn't funny anymore. Beetlejuice wasn't as hype up and looney as he was in the first one. And Lidia? Who the fuck was she?? She doesn't have that power that she once had. We try to make excuses because she lost her man, but we kept going back to "wtf happen to her" again, because her character sucks ass!!! Thr douchy boyfriend was pretty funny, though and waaaaay to many side stories we compare the first movie of course because it had 2 stories. The former owner now ghost try to remove the family out and beetlejuice wanted to married Lidia it was simple and for ANYONE to understand what was going on. But this trash beetlejuice 2 just had waaaaay too many bullshit that made no sense!
It definitely suffered from jokes that overstayed their welcome. What was happening on the Soul Train platform before that song was written? The real mystery of the film.
@hardcutreviews there that and beetlejuice "arch enemy" which wasn't sue suppose to be the focus?? And all of a sudden she disappeared until the last 15mins of the movie. I really thought when they were searching from room to room I really thought I was going to see a scooby door going door to door comedy which would have sucked.
Anyone else find it aggravating (and pretty disgusting) that the dude who turned out to be a pedo in real life got more screentime than the villain OR the goofy ghoul himself?
I thought "the soul train" was just a silly little dated joke by Beetlejuice but it ended up being a dated joke by the filmmakers. Didn't fit in at all. It was also a runtime padding dance interlude like that waste of an ending. We waited 30 years to finally see this guy again and we are wasting his limited screen time on him lip syncing?
I was wondering when the this review was gonna drop, knew you guys would take a massive dump on this. I too was "meh" going in. And as a huge fan of the first I didn't even care about a sequel which says allot. Went to go see it Monday afternoon and got home, cracked a beer (I snuck 2 into the theatre) popped in the original (on vhs) wrote up some points and shot a equally angry review on this.. Funny folks who like this movie just say "no it was good". BUT WHY? Why was it good, people who says it's good don't give any reasons why. I think people are just fine with mediocre movies these days, but mediocre from good film makers just doesn't cut it, especially with huge budgets. Not even sure this is mediocre, maybe less than. Enjoyed this review boys, cheers. Oh yeah the only good character in this was the Priest, give him more screen time and lines!
I figured it would be this much. The original film had a certain edgy raunch too it that they could never get away with in today's woke feminist Hollywood.
This isn’t a woke feminist thing. Every beloved villain goes through the neutering process. The audience loves him, so they want to see more of him and they want to see him win. At spine point he’ll team up with the heroes and become a good guy.
I think that there is a good movie in there, if you remove the other 2 (or 3?) movies they crammed in. I was sufficiently entertained for the $6 to watch this trip through nostalgia. Jenna Ortega was far above and beyond the worst thing about the film. Some producers saw Wednesday and thought that she could do anything. Turns out, she's only proficient at being Wednesday.
If this movie had stuck with one plot it would have been better. The first film focused on Lydia befriending ghosts who helped her grow. This film could have been about her daughter befriending a ghost who wanted to do the opposite and hurt her. Missed opportunities.
liked your comments on the movie and agreed with pretty much all your criticisms, I was not a huge fan either, but can we drop the holier than thou, gen z bad, snowflake thing, its corny.
You can always spot the zoomer in the crowd because of their inability to laugh at themselves. You want to talk about holier than thou? You can drop as many stereotypes about millennials and Gen X’ers all you like. We won’t care because they’re probably true. As soon as this generation finds a little humility we’ll ease up on them.
@@hardcutreviews I love the generalizations. Yes you are correct a lot of this generation is just insufferable TikTok users but let’s not try and pretend the whole “woke” thing is just gen z, millennials are guilty of it too.
@@Korrva Definitely. I don’t think we ever claimed that woke ideology sits squarely on the shoulder of Gen Z. Millienials and Gen Xers are the ones in those decision making positions right now.
@@hardcutreviews Sure did. Now, there is talk about a female Fight Club. 😒 I’m done. Fight club is about the decline of masculinity, so don’t know how that’s going to work with females. 😂
Maybe you guys should review old movies, that way you could see something good. Do Predator or Die Hard or Aliens or ANYTHING...just as long as it’s good.
We would love to review old (good) movies. We usually get buried in the algorithm any time we deviate from the current stuff. Fortunately, we've had some growth lately. Maybe it's time to reconsider...
@@hardcutreviews I have, you’re right! Despite what I’ve said, I actually love you shitting on movies. It’s funny as hell. It was just when you looked like your soul died “I’m so sick of shitty movies” I thought to myself “this man needs Die Hard!!”
Why are you guys giving the actors all the credit for their portrayals of the characters and who they turned into? That blame falls flatly at the feet of Tim Burton only.
They get all the credit when they do a good job. It’s suddenly all of the directors fault when they suck? There is only so much Burton can pull out of an actor. If it’s not in them anymore it’s not in them. Burton certainly shoulders a lot of them blame but Keaton fell back into the role no problem, Burton gets 100% of the credit?
I went with 7 people to see this and we all came out of the theater hating the film, it just didn’t capture the same feeling the first did, I gave it a 1.5 out of 5.
It was horrible. And yes, we admit we’re in the minority on this one for some reason. It’s amazing how far storytelling has fallen and no one recognizes it.
I didn’t think it was as bad as these guys did. I gave it a 5/10. Average/below average but couldn’t give it the 👍recommendation. Too many plot points that don’t result in satisfying conclusions.
This movie was not good. I really didnt appreciate the absence of the maitlands. That's a huge one for me. The maitlands were the emotional through-line of the original. We were seeing the movie from their perspective because they were basically playing the straight man. So they plucked the main characters from the sequel and we're left with the crazy side characters that no one can relate to. It was too weird. I agree with Winona rider in regard to lydia most likely wouldn't have had kids. I dont like jenna Ortega and shes once again infected another ip I adored. The character of beetlejuice doesnt need to be expanded upon. I dont want to see him working in an office. That's pretty ridiculous. There were way too many characters and too many plot lines converging all at once felt unnatural and forced. Michael Keatons performance was very sedate. Not once did I see him light or smoke a cigarette. He constantly kept the timbre of his voice really low where as the original his tone and inflections were all over the place. In the original film he would flip from calm to manic in the same sentence. What they did with Charles Deetz character was detestable. Either have jeffrey jones reprise his role or dont have that character in the film. It's that simple. Also beetlejuice appears when you say his name three times, so why was delores having such a hard time finding him when she had already said his name more than three times. Wheres beetlejuice?! Wheres beetlejuice?! Wheres beetlejuice?! That was pretty stupid and bad writing imo. There was one shrunken head guy in the first movie but the burnt up smoker guy was more interesting, so we now have a race of shrunken head dudes? That doesnt make any sense. Also how did beetlejuice get his head unshrunk from the first movie? I wanted to see how lydia grew up having two sets of parents. Being raised by ghosts would have been very interesting. It would have also been cool to see how lydia helped adam and Barbara cross over. And mcarthur park playing at the end? I've always hated that song. It's almost like every move this movie made was deliberately designed to annoy fans of the original film. I personally feel like I've been slapped in the face.
Everything about this movie felt like a mini-series stuffed into 105 mins of Runtime with no clear idea of satisfying resolutions for every storyline due to making it a movie
For only the 2nd time I walked out of the theater after being so excited for this movie. First 30 min I thought, "This is choppy." Second 30 min I thought, "I need to leave now before I fall asleep." This movie was overhyped. One of the worst movies I have seen in a while. The script and editing were soooooo bad.
Amazon prime reviews of beetlejuice 2 shows 5 stars out of 78,000 reviews that shows the public has very low standards and is too easily entertained now days...
It’s actually shocking how low standards have fallen.
@@hardcutreviews unfortunately it's hard to tell how bad it really even is (think Rotten Tomatoes effect) - for all we know it's Amazon removing most negative reviews as part of the almighty psyop
Also….the whole storyline with Jenna Ortega’s love interest is the EXACT SAME THREAD as what happened in Wednesday!!!?!?!!!
That kid even looks like him. When I was watching it my first thought was, “Ok, he’s clearly a villain.”
I literally do not even remember that show
Just watched the movie tonight and I felt the exact same way watching this movie.
We’re in the minority on this one and happy to be.
Thank you. I thought this movie was terrible as well. I had the same reaction, "Wtf did I just watch?" So disappointed.
Just a mention, the small head people got out with the portal being open and they didn't circle back to what happened...
FACTS 😂
hahaha oh yea i forgot about this
Wasn't it supposed to be that if you're a civil servant in the afterlife, you must have committed suicide?
I believe that is something that was mentioned. Not sure why the dad is working as one.
It would have been better if they hadn't have tried to shove several complicated plots into a 1 hour 45 minute movie.
My thoughts on this one can be summed up by a quote from the late Gene Siskel -
‘I liked it while I was watching it and as soon as it was over, it didn’t mean anything to me.’
A lot of the jokes landed for me on first viewing but the more I think back on the film, the more problems I have with it. The script is way too busy, there’s too many plot threads that don’t go anywhere, Winona Ryder is just playing herself instead of how Lydia was established in the first movie etc. .
Something else you I don’t think you mentioned was all the musical sequences. There’s like 5 or 6 different musical sequences in this movie (as opposed to the 2 iconic ones from the original) and it just feels ultra forced. Like they’re trying desperately hard to create the next “Day-O” moment.
I wouldn’t call the film outright awful. It has some fun moments. Overall though? Not as good as the original.
Lisa Frankenstein & Beetlejuice 2 ruined goth movies for me this yr. Both movies suffer from 0 sense of importance despite aesthetics brought on film.
41 here. Remember the classic original fondly but refuse to see this one because I know it’s a dumbed down version of Beetlejuice and a remake technically too. Same gags. No Jeffery Jones either. I get it because of his criminal record but Hollywood still allows other criminals back after five-ten years? Wth?
Great discussion guys. Subbed.
Geena Davies is adorable in the original shes very attractive.
Minus the 80s hair. Yup.
Hello, thank-you for posting your review of this movie. I found this movie really, really bad also. Many other reviews call this movie very good, like 8/10 to 10/10! Really? I give it a max of 4/10 and being generous. I am no professional critic and many people out there loved this movie, so I guess we are some of the rare ones who did not like this movie even though it made millions and that it was is important for the filmmakers. The good news is that I still have the first movie to watch again to make me forget this one!
We are definitely in the minority on this one. But we have good taste on our side.
You mentioned bad pacing, scenes or jokes going on too long.
I'm seeing that a LOT in movies now. 2016 Ghostbusters being the worst example.
Watching the old 80's movies (like The Lost Boys), they were tightly scripted and edited, and it's hard to believe what they successfully packed into 90 minute run times
This is all I want, no bullshit honest reviews. thank you.
It was like a Netflix or Tv movie. Winona Ryder was right, Bj and Lydz should have gotten together and gotten married. But why did they make BJ a simp. He wanted to marry Lydia to escape the afterlife, he didn’t care about her he just needed a way out and she wanted a way in, in the first movie. Tim should have rewatched the original and played by the correct story rules. Burton and Lucas just don’t do that and wing it.
The Maitlands absence was so unnecessarily complicated. Why "loophole"? Why not just say they moved on when Lydia grew up because they were happy?
Juno mentions in the first film that they have to stay in the house for 125 years before they can move on. They didn’t want to bother with that pesky detail from the first film so… magical loophole.
@@hardcutreviews Oh I missed that! I even watched the original before I saw the sequel 🤦♂️
Thanks.
This channel is criminally undersubbed. love you girls, keep it up.
Thanks, girlfriend. Appreciate you.
@@hardcutreviews Oh my GOD, I can't even right now. Literally shaking.
@@hardcutreviews Hey u lookn fabulous girl. Don't pay any attention to what Tara said. She a b*tch!!!
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I thought that it was okay. Definitely not as good as the original but the original was like lightning in a bottle situation with how everything fell into place creating for a kooky memorable film. I thought the sequel was okay in the sense that the dark vibe was there and I liked how it still used practical effects for most of it. I thought Lydia's character was alright in the sense that I could see her mellowing out a bit after dealing with her depression in the original. I enjoyed her for what she was but I do understand and even agree that she did feel a little off. I also agree that the plot hole was dumb with where she can see ghosts but can't see her ex-husband and when it was revealed that he worked in the afterlife, for a second it made it understandable but then he drops the "I check in on you two" line and thus opened that hole. It would've been better if they had Lydia lie that she couldn't see him and that could've been the (seen coming) second twist.
I honestly though Michael Keaton was great. Yeah he's aged and you can feel that in the sequel but I think he was still able to tap into the character and deliver a fun performance. Catherine O'Hara, I'll admit I did find myself chuckling at a few of her quips and I enjoyed her character but in hindsight, I do see what people are saying now that it didn't really feel like "Delia". I haven't seen Schitt's work so I'm not familiar with the character she plays there but I will concede that it feels like she may have put a little too much kookiness into the character. But despite that, I still enjoyed her.
As for Jenna Ortega as Astrid, this is my first time seeing Jenna Ortega act (I haven't watched Wednesday and I haven't seen "You") and to me, the acting just a felt a bit too monotone at times. I haven't seen Wednesday but I heard that's the main shtick she does and it feels like maybe she tried to put her Wednesday role into Astrid and well, it just comes off a bit bland. I know she's the big horror girl of this moment and she might be good in other things but for this character, she was just okay.
Honestly the worst part of the movie for me was the ex-wife plot. The idea was interesting and I liked the backstory but the execution in how she was handled through the majority of the movie was horrible. She barely does anything and just when you think there will be a big showdown between her and Beetlejuice, she's taken out in like 20 seconds. Just awful. Also the Soul Train scene, I thought it was cute that it was a little throwback to the show of the same name but I agree that the sequence went on for a little too long.
Anyway I do agree that the film had too many plots going on and it really should've stuck with one or two, not like 3-5. My choice would've been the ex-wife plot and had it fleshed out more. But eh, it is what it is. I didn't mind this film, it was okay and after seeing the Crow remake that was just awful, this was a nice refresher, at least for me anyway.
Appreciate the comment and your measured take on the film. There are good things here like you mentioned. Good practicals, when they are used, and that underworld aesthetic felt like a good continuation from the original. They just needed to stick to a singular plot and put all their eggs into that basket. A tighter story would have really benefited this film. Keaton is obviously great and our criticism is mostly on a script and direction level with his character. Under different circumstances it would have been like he played the original character yesterday. Ortega, whatever. She wasn’t bad, wasn’t great either. We were digging the plot of the ghost boy that she trusted and betrayed her as a nice counter to Lydia befriending ghosts in the original and they are good. Would have been a nice reversal for this film. His wife was not fleshed out enough at all. She pops up for a couple scenes and is completely wasted. Overall a mess but we get we’re in the minority on this one, haha.
@@hardcutreviews Right, I mean I do like the original film quite a bit and I'd be lying if I said this movie was "fantastic". I agree that had they stuck to one plot, things would've flowed much better. The plot with Astrid and the ghost boy was good and thinking about it, I would scrap the ex-wife plot and save it for the third movie (because it's obvious there will be one lol) and instead, just focus on Astrid and this seemingly friendly ghost boy. Lydia could be trusting at first and through clues dropped, she picks up that the boy isn't who he seems to be which causes an argument with her and Astrid, the story beat continues like the movie we got where the boy tricks Astrid into going to the afterlife and yada yada. Lydia desperately (but reluctantly) enlists Beetlejuice for help. No wedding scene and instead, maybe have the ghost boy manage to get Astrid into that moon of Saturn world and Lydia and Beetlejucie go there to find her and have a showdown with a sandworm.
I dunno, it's something haha. They really didn't need two serious plots going on though is al,l, both were interesting ideas but they should've focused on one or the other first though again, the ex-wife plot would've been best served for a finale movie aka the third where more focus can be on Beetlejuice himself.
But yeah, it's just that after watching the Crow Remake that I really didn't like, seeing this movie despite it's fault felt like some nice breathing room and I'd rather watch this than sit through Crow 2024 again lol.
@@KaiDecadence This is 100 times better than The Crow remake despite our problems with it, haha. I guess we were fed up with the potential that was wasted. You could make the case that people really wanted this sequel so there was a lot riding on it and it will be successful. Nobody was expecting The Crow remake to be good.
@@hardcutreviews That's fair lol Even when it was announced that the Crow was being remade, I think it's safe to say most of us gave a groan of annoyance. And then the trailer dropped and it was the face palm heard around the world lol. When I saw it, I tried to go in with very low expectations and even then, I just felt bored and annoyed.
I think what helps with Beetlejucie though is that even the original film didn't take itself too seriously and even though the sequel didn't hit the mark 100%, the effort was there (just needed more thought and maybe one or two final drafts). The spirit was there in and out of places and that makes it serviceable enough as a popcorn flick that you may watch once or twice and be done.
Now, this is a honest review.
Everyone is loving this piece of garbage. I know many "reviewers" are scared of calling the bs, scared of losing viewers and subscribers, scared of being canceled and I hate those fake reviewers.
This is how reviews show be done, with honesty
ok stupid bot
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Right because saying you liked an entertaining movie means youre afraid of getting cancelled. You found a channel that agreed with you. Doesnt mean anything objective. Touch grass
@gwendyp125 i reviewed your comment and determined it was trash. Seems like you are scared of having your own opinion and are content spewing bs. I would suggest you go out and touch grass, but you would probably break out in hives from fresh air.
Im 46 and was a fan of the original. I loved the sequel and while the plot was too busy I still enjoyed the ride. Some of us did really enjoy it.
I mean- we honestly can't figure out how any of you can possibly like this movie, but we're for sure in the minority on this one.
@hardcutreviews i can definitely see why. I have disliked things that everyone else seemed to love, and vice-versa. I had to stop having expectations. Many were expecting this to be just like the original and were let down. You are very right about him being neutered tho lol. I didn't know exactly what it was as i was watching it What was up, But
As soon as you said it and called out exactly how he was in the original, it all clicked. He was less vulgar and creepy in this one lol. Creepy as in pervert. They definitely did the grotesque creepy well still at least!
I laughed a ton and loved individual moments in the movie. It was a compilation of perfect TH-cam short clips.
@hardcutreviews as long as you recognize you are in the minority I can totally respect that. I guess my expectations were not as high but regardless I laughed my head off in the theater. I'm genuinely sad you all didn't
@@lizardking2407 "recognize you're in the minority" as if that means anything. Populum.
Perfect interpretation and analysis of this film. You hit every note that I felt walking out of the theatre.
You just earned yourself another subscriber and champion for your channel!
Keep up the great work, guys!
Thanks, dude! Appreciate it!
Say Hard Cut 3 times and these guys show up. 😎
Was gonna watch this with my girlfriend last night but we got in a fight and she watched it on her own. I am glad I didn’t have to sit through this shit show.
The Soul Train was a reference to the TV dance show Soul Train from the 70's. The man that was acting as the conductor was meant to look like Don Cornelius the show's host and creator.
....we got it.
I think Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is a great example of one of the biggest issues modern movies have (in addition to the cast needing to be cut down by half): none of the characters have any goals. Everyone in this movie is just reacting to the world moving around them, nobody has anything they particularly want or a goal they are pursuing.
Skinny Otho had the vague goal of “more money” somehow…?
The movie didn't suck. It wasn't as good as the first but i didn't think it sucked.
I agree. I'm happy I saw it and the first 2/3rd of the movie was really working for me. But that end happened way too quickly and really felt like this movie needed a part 2 to actually make all these storylines work
Dont quit guys, stay strong .
Never.
Honestly I love Beetlejuice I wouldn't even care if he was on a cereal box I love Beetlejuice this movie was great and that's my opinion so and I'll definitely watch it a thousand more times
Love the channel! It’s awesome seeing real reviews rather than watered down carefully calculated reviews to keep bright colored hair folks on Twitter happy. Keep it up guys!!
people need to STOP CASTING JENNA ORTEGA AS THE MAIN CHILD CHARACTER
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Literally. She's grown now and it's weird to crush on her while watching her play a teenager lol
Disagree. She was great in the movie.
The film would be better without all the subplots. Beetlejuice seems to still be sleazy even in the second film. The sexual harassment was toned down but he forced a fake pregnancy on Lydia.
I read something about when Tim Burton was asked why the Maitlands are not in the sequel. He said the Maitlands are ghosts and that they never age. I felt that was a lame excuse to not at least include Geena Davis since she still looks gorgeous! There's things that could have made this film as much a masterpiece as the first film. But it has these very awkward moments that could be altered to make some scenes work better or removed entirely. The stop motion segment looked like right out of James and the Giant Peach. Cool, but i'm not sure it fits for this movie. No epic Harry Belafonte Shake Shake Senora sequence. I wanted more of Monica Belucci's character but it felt like a whole scene or something got cut in the third act. The stakes were real but then abruptly over. The whole bit with Astrid's father felt unnecessary. It's a very confusing line because it bounces back and forth off of deciding if it wants to be a Beetlejuice sequel or a live action adaption of the cartoon, which is cool too, but you can't make both work in a film. Maybe two films, one where it's buddy co-op and then set up for a selfish hidden agenda in a third film or something. However I think you guys hit the nail on the head in terms of how the first film is a crazy wacky story but told well.
Now that was cool you guys changing the physical logo sign to green-themed. A subtle nod to practical effects. 😉
As for Beetlejuice 2, it isn’t bad, it isn’t great. It had plenty of opportunity of being better, especially after all this time. I mean, Top Gun 2 set the best example! Beetlejuice 2 felt like a slapdash script, or-a now dated reference-a straight to DVD sequel.
Anyone wanna talk about how it's brought up Lydia's actual mother isn't dead? She wasn't at her father's funeral and seemingly is actually closer to the step mom whom she once seemed to hate. Maybe I'm missing something from the first film, why is her real mom Mia from Lydia's life?
"I can't lie to you about your chances, but you have my sympathies." Ash (and Rook - apparently)
sorry it just seemed like an appropriate quote! 🤣
We're definitely gonna take some hits on this one haha.
yes the Maitlands made Lydia want to live they made her believe in GOD at the end of the movie should wouldn't dissect a frog because it was against her religion
The writing is terrible. That's not Beetlejuice. Not in the slightest the same characters. It felt empty and pointless. The entire movie, you're thinking some things would happen, but nothing does.Boring plot boring screenplay. Also very confusing. Jumbled mess of a movie.
gotta love gen z cancer curls when they are the cancer
6:00 was my biggest issue with this.. Even if they didn't keep them in the movie , they could have at least shown them With their distorted monster faces With different actors in their clothes With a little back story of how they moved on..
They found a creative way to still keep Jeffrey Jones in the move. Couldn’t do it for the Maitlands?
Yeah, for me, the Maitlands were the most important characters. It was their story.
That JJ schtick went on for way too long IMO 😢@@hardcutreviews
I always thought Burton was overrated. He had a few great tricks up his sleeve, but when they ran out he never learned new ones.
By the time the 90’s ended he had run his course. His new films are for an entirely different audience.
His last great film, imo, was Big Fish, but even that was 21 years ago.
Same shit, different dog.
@@hardcutreviews Sounds like you've never seen Big Fish (2003)
@@rockinresurrection6542 Big Fish was decent and a welcome departure from his other modern films. Good call. Completely forgot about that one.
I feel like Hollywood saw the success of fanfiction and decided all films needed to be in the style of a fanfic.
One of the many problems with this film is that the ending opens up for another sequel. Which is very wrong as this film had no real story to begin with, but only several small stories.
I.e. it was more important to try to make this film become a series of films than to try to create a complete story.
A singular plot would have gone a long way with this film. It was a total mess and it suffered for it. It spread itself way too thin instead of placing all of its care and attention on one great story.
Does Jenna Ortega get to say "Nice effing model!" ?
Thanks for sparing us. Hope something exceptional is around the bend
No. She does dress up as Marie Curie for Halloween though. And she makes sure everybody knows.
@@hardcutreviews 🤦🏻 Insufferable & missed opportunity for a From Dusk Till Dawn costume
The only funny parts were with Keaton and he wasn't in it very much. Burton has DEFINITELY lost a lot of his past skill. During the last scene, when they realize that O'Hara had actually died, no biggie! The snakes had fangs, right? Oh well, c-ya! Really? So she was fighting to not be dead and then suddenly she was okay with it, and her daughter and granddaughter realize she's dead and being taken to the afterlife but, "meh, oh well."
The film was all over the place, reminding me of an old Chinese Kung-Fu film that couldn't make up its mind if it wanted to be a drama, tragedy, slapstick, farce, or action film. I was really excited to see it, hoping for something GOOD -- which hasn't happened often in recent years -- but it left me sighing. Oh well.
New subscriber. You speak the truth and please keep talking like me and my friends. Fuck this no talent cash grab rehash bullshit excuse for filmmaking.
Welcome to the channel man. Yeah, that's basically our thing- no bullshit here.
How am I just now finding this channel? Amazing.
Welcome to the channel, man. Glad to have you. Algorithm seems to bury us most of the time. Probably because we have potty mouths.
Hang in there fellas lol love your reviews!! I'll keep clicking like & fingers crossed more people see your videos and subscribe! You guys deserve it!
Instead of paying to see this, I'll be routing those funds into the UHD copy of Red Dragon. A much better purchase.
Tantamount to saying: "Instead of digging up Shannen Doherty's corpse and boning the ever-living hell out of that shit, I'm going to making seducing Holly Marie Combs my life's mission". A remarkably tepid upgrade
The plot thread of Astrid's dad actually does make sense: Lydia can only see ghosts on earth, and Lydia's dead husband can't vist earth because be has a job in the afterlife working the ticket booth. They don't have an explosion dump, but it works.
Except all those times the dad says he visits them to check on them.
you guys nailed it - this was literally one of the worst movies I've ever seen
Don’t get the love. Genuinely don’t.
Agreed. Awful movie.
The sequel should've been primarily focused on the story between Astrid and the ghost boy. That was the only aspect that felt interesting and dangerous . They should've drawn that out a lot more. Lead the audience to ship this couple and then shock us, not because he was a ghost (which was obvious), but because he turns out to be an evil ghost. All the shit with Justin Theoraux and Monica Belucci had no bearing on anything. Completely unnecessary characters. Delia Deetz, needed to be there, but yeah, maybe with more character development? I dunno. They could've kept the dead dad plot, but gave it more stakes in the resolution. The disco music though-line was meant to echo the calypso music though-line of the original, but it made no sense. In the original, the Maitlands listen to Harry Belafonte in the first scene. They were fans. Why the diso music in the sequel?
All good points. Everything in the original was motivated. This sequel was severely lacking cohesion and motivation. Thanks for the comment.
What an excellent review,,,,covers all angles,,well done! ,,,,The Neutering of Beetlejuice,,,” amazing
Beetlejuice on xanax after a long talk with Human Resources Department. I could see the difference just watching the trailer but i hoped it was jist a fluke about the scenes they chose. Nope. It's literally just old ass, tired version of Beetlejuice. "The ghost is toast" should be the tagline. I also hate fan service. Instead of being creative and coming up with new material, they just re-filmed all the viral scenes from 1988 like "Hey remember this? You loved this scene before so here it is again, just low testosterone." They do that shit with every single legacy sequel like they can't think of anything else. I hate Hollywood and the film industry is toast. 80s and 90s were peak film quality. Computers and greed killed the movie biz.
Finally. Someone say how bad this movie is. All the other reviews I've watched made it sound like the movie is so good. This movie should have not been made.
Gen z when they have their own money for movies are going to hate this stuff.
All these 80's and 90's remakes and sequels don't work. The fact being..there was no PC (political correctness) in movies, there were fun, open minded with no boundaries... now movies are controlled and limited by political correctness, gender and interracial inclusion... the focus in no longer on the art of the movie.. but who it will appeal to..and not offend...
For example... The Breakfast Club, one of the greatest movies of the 80's, would have NEVER made it on the screen just based on the locker scene 3:45 min into the movie alone.
I really don't think they could have gotten away with portraying Beetlejuice as the same level of sleazy scumbag he was in the original without also downplaying the humorous aspects of his character. A small but vocal section of the audience would probably freak out seeing a despicable and perverted character being played for laughs.
I don't necessarily disagree with these guys assessment of the movie but it still rocked.even though its not the real thing.
Agreed with everything and I thought Winona Ryder and the Lydia character was the worst part of the movie. I understand you’re not the same person you were at 15, but they didn’t set it up like she had a major change. WHAT HAPPENED to make smart, strong, dry, sardonic Lydia this neurotic, naive fragile woman who falls for a jr Otho?
LOL even Otho was cooler than that guy 😅😅
I liked the movie overall. But it does kinda feel like tim Burton just made this movie to have an excuse to put that troll looking Jenna Ortega in it.
The original is very well written. Most current movies have terrible scripts.
Good review fella! Keep it up! 🤘
I remember watching this movie with my wife, and we honestly said the same exact thing. The music for the ending was too long the soul train was funny but man do they drag it so it wasn't funny anymore. Beetlejuice wasn't as hype up and looney as he was in the first one. And Lidia? Who the fuck was she?? She doesn't have that power that she once had. We try to make excuses because she lost her man, but we kept going back to "wtf happen to her" again, because her character sucks ass!!! Thr douchy boyfriend was pretty funny, though and waaaaay to many side stories we compare the first movie of course because it had 2 stories. The former owner now ghost try to remove the family out and beetlejuice wanted to married Lidia it was simple and for ANYONE to understand what was going on. But this trash beetlejuice 2 just had waaaaay too many bullshit that made no sense!
It definitely suffered from jokes that overstayed their welcome. What was happening on the Soul Train platform before that song was written? The real mystery of the film.
@hardcutreviews there that and beetlejuice "arch enemy" which wasn't sue suppose to be the focus?? And all of a sudden she disappeared until the last 15mins of the movie. I really thought when they were searching from room to room I really thought I was going to see a scooby door going door to door comedy which would have sucked.
THANK YOU you nailed all my thoughts exactly
I had alot of fun wirh this movie. Honestly if it just had an extra 40 minutes to do Beatlejuices GF a better arc then i would have been happy
Anyone else find it aggravating (and pretty disgusting) that the dude who turned out to be a pedo in real life got more screentime than the villain OR the goofy ghoul himself?
Was kind of surprised how much he was featured in the story.
@@hardcutreviews They should have had him drown in a pile of elephant shit and had that be the end of his role in the movie
Love the green
14:33 😂 had me laughing I really don't know what it is with this generation and the perm hair
It will be looked back upon much like women's hair in the 80s.
This looks like a high end channel, I assumed it had LITERALLY millions of subscribers. I don't see why it doesn't, so I'll do my bit 🤙🏽
Thanks, dude! Appreciate it!
I thought "the soul train" was just a silly little dated joke by Beetlejuice but it ended up being a dated joke by the filmmakers. Didn't fit in at all. It was also a runtime padding dance interlude like that waste of an ending. We waited 30 years to finally see this guy again and we are wasting his limited screen time on him lip syncing?
I was wondering when the this review was gonna drop, knew you guys would take a massive dump on this. I too was "meh" going in. And as a huge fan of the first I didn't even care about a sequel which says allot. Went to go see it Monday afternoon and got home, cracked a beer (I snuck 2 into the theatre) popped in the original (on vhs) wrote up some points and shot a equally angry review on this.. Funny folks who like this movie just say "no it was good". BUT WHY? Why was it good, people who says it's good don't give any reasons why. I think people are just fine with mediocre movies these days, but mediocre from good film makers just doesn't cut it, especially with huge budgets. Not even sure this is mediocre, maybe less than. Enjoyed this review boys, cheers. Oh yeah the only good character in this was the Priest, give him more screen time and lines!
I figured it would be this much. The original film had a certain edgy raunch too it that they could never get away with in today's woke feminist Hollywood.
This isn’t a woke feminist thing. Every beloved villain goes through the neutering process. The audience loves him, so they want to see more of him and they want to see him win. At spine point he’ll team up with the heroes and become a good guy.
Waking*
@mollygrace3068 You love ruining things don't you?
I was so hyped to see this but it was all wrong was one of the worse movies I’ve seen in years
10:30 I feel like she was acting more like Moira than Delia
She definitely was. Still love her but it just didn’t feel like the same character.
the new red letter media, great review
I think that there is a good movie in there, if you remove the other 2 (or 3?) movies they crammed in. I was sufficiently entertained for the $6 to watch this trip through nostalgia.
Jenna Ortega was far above and beyond the worst thing about the film. Some producers saw Wednesday and thought that she could do anything. Turns out, she's only proficient at being Wednesday.
If this movie had stuck with one plot it would have been better. The first film focused on Lydia befriending ghosts who helped her grow. This film could have been about her daughter befriending a ghost who wanted to do the opposite and hurt her. Missed opportunities.
Great review! You guys are 10 out of 10!
I haven't seen this yet, so I don't have much input, but I haven't watched one video from this channel that I haven't agreed with, so there's that.
liked your comments on the movie and agreed with pretty much all your criticisms, I was not a huge fan either, but can we drop the holier than thou, gen z bad, snowflake thing, its corny.
You can always spot the zoomer in the crowd because of their inability to laugh at themselves. You want to talk about holier than thou? You can drop as many stereotypes about millennials and Gen X’ers all you like. We won’t care because they’re probably true. As soon as this generation finds a little humility we’ll ease up on them.
@@hardcutreviews I love the generalizations. Yes you are correct a lot of this generation is just insufferable TikTok users but let’s not try and pretend the whole “woke” thing is just gen z, millennials are guilty of it too.
@@Korrva Definitely. I don’t think we ever claimed that woke ideology sits squarely on the shoulder of Gen Z. Millienials and Gen Xers are the ones in those decision making positions right now.
Definitely had no hopes for this 😂
We didn’t need this movie. 🙄 Thanks for the review, guys.
The time for a sequel came and went 30 years ago.
@@hardcutreviews Sure did. Now, there is talk about a female Fight Club. 😒 I’m done. Fight club is about the decline of masculinity, so don’t know how that’s going to work with females. 😂
I can't get over how much Matt looks like Andy Samberg.
No, dude. 😆
Yesssss! He really does 🤣
Maybe you guys should review old movies, that way you could see something good.
Do Predator or Die Hard or Aliens or ANYTHING...just as long as it’s good.
We would love to review old (good) movies. We usually get buried in the algorithm any time we deviate from the current stuff. Fortunately, we've had some growth lately. Maybe it's time to reconsider...
I feel like this isn’t the first time you’ve tried to get us to review old movies, lol. We really should do a classic and see how it performs…
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I have, you’re right!
Despite what I’ve said, I actually love you shitting on movies. It’s funny as hell.
It was just when you looked like your soul died “I’m so sick of shitty movies” I thought to myself “this man needs Die Hard!!”
Why are you guys giving the actors all the credit for their portrayals of the characters and who they turned into? That blame falls flatly at the feet of Tim Burton only.
They get all the credit when they do a good job. It’s suddenly all of the directors fault when they suck? There is only so much Burton can pull out of an actor. If it’s not in them anymore it’s not in them. Burton certainly shoulders a lot of them blame but Keaton fell back into the role no problem, Burton gets 100% of the credit?
The musical number was fuckin awesome lol
I went with 7 people to see this and we all came out of the theater hating the film, it just didn’t capture the same feeling the first did, I gave it a 1.5 out of 5.
That's an accurate assessment. This movie was garbage.
did bro dress up as alec baldwin on purpose?
Bro had no idea he was dressed exactly the same as Adam Maitland.
Do you either of you like the original Scream movie?
The original Scream is great. Even Scream 2 has a lot going for it.
@@hardcutreviews I agree, I actually like Scream 4 a lot. Call me trash, I don’t care. 😂
Ugh damn 😒 I was looking forward to this one
Sounds like a bunch of complainers. It definitely wasn’t bad… I guess you are in the minority on this one
It was horrible. And yes, we admit we’re in the minority on this one for some reason. It’s amazing how far storytelling has fallen and no one recognizes it.
It can’t be worse then Disney Poo Wars??? 💩
That’s a pretty low bar. Would rather watch this.
@@hardcutreviews I just watched it at the theater 🎭 it’s not too bad.
Yeah I'll definitely avoid this movie. Any plans to review the new matt walsh movie?
Not at the moment but we will down the line at some point.
@@hardcutreviews 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I didn’t think it was as bad as these guys did. I gave it a 5/10. Average/below average but couldn’t give it the 👍recommendation. Too many plot points that don’t result in satisfying conclusions.
This movie was not good. I really didnt appreciate the absence of the maitlands. That's a huge one for me. The maitlands were the emotional through-line of the original. We were seeing the movie from their perspective because they were basically playing the straight man. So they plucked the main characters from the sequel and we're left with the crazy side characters that no one can relate to. It was too weird. I agree with Winona rider in regard to lydia most likely wouldn't have had kids. I dont like jenna Ortega and shes once again infected another ip I adored. The character of beetlejuice doesnt need to be expanded upon. I dont want to see him working in an office. That's pretty ridiculous. There were way too many characters and too many plot lines converging all at once felt unnatural and forced. Michael Keatons performance was very sedate. Not once did I see him light or smoke a cigarette. He constantly kept the timbre of his voice really low where as the original his tone and inflections were all over the place. In the original film he would flip from calm to manic in the same sentence. What they did with Charles Deetz character was detestable. Either have jeffrey jones reprise his role or dont have that character in the film. It's that simple. Also beetlejuice appears when you say his name three times, so why was delores having such a hard time finding him when she had already said his name more than three times. Wheres beetlejuice?! Wheres beetlejuice?! Wheres beetlejuice?! That was pretty stupid and bad writing imo. There was one shrunken head guy in the first movie but the burnt up smoker guy was more interesting, so we now have a race of shrunken head dudes? That doesnt make any sense. Also how did beetlejuice get his head unshrunk from the first movie? I wanted to see how lydia grew up having two sets of parents. Being raised by ghosts would have been very interesting. It would have also been cool to see how lydia helped adam and Barbara cross over. And mcarthur park playing at the end? I've always hated that song. It's almost like every move this movie made was deliberately designed to annoy fans of the original film. I personally feel like I've been slapped in the face.
Movie dawgs
Tenis
Red Letter Media called, they want their show back.
Tell them to call us directly. We don’t deal with intermediary cucks.
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Hardy, har, har
Everything about this movie felt like a mini-series stuffed into 105 mins of Runtime with no clear idea of satisfying resolutions for every storyline due to making it a movie
That's a very solid, accurate take.
For only the 2nd time I walked out of the theater after being so excited for this movie. First 30 min I thought, "This is choppy." Second 30 min I thought, "I need to leave now before I fall asleep." This movie was overhyped. One of the worst movies I have seen in a while. The script and editing were soooooo bad.
I don’t think it was bad. Not great, but in the middle. I enjoyed it. Going to see it a 4th time :)
You’ve seen it 3 times?!
@@hardcutreviews I enjoyed it. :)
You watch average movies 4 times? X for doubt.
@@DrakonR Sure did. One with dad, sister, friend and mom tomorrow. Such a good time!
@@Redsnowman04 you're not fooling anyone. Nice troll though.