The "T" naming convention back in the day in the real world signified a test piece, it prefaced the "XM" prefix for experimental weapons and items, so the thought that all power armors kept their T prefix is interesting. It signifies that power armor of all types never even reached experimental fielding phase and was rushed into service. Given their similarities, my personal headcanon is that T60 is heavily modified and reinforced T45. The reason that the BoS in Fallout 3 used T45 exclusively is that that's all the West Coast BoS sent with them. Remember that Lyons and his crew were sent east because the main BoS was trying to get rid of them. They also found several suits in the basement of the Pentagon. In my headcanon, I like to think that the T45 in the Pentagon were awaiting the application of a Modification Work Order (MWO) to bring it up to T60 standards, which is a common practice in the military when a new model of an existing item supercedes the obsolete item spec. This also explains why the BoS in Fallout 4 exclusively use T60. In the years between Fallout 3 and 4, they managed to successfully apply the MWO to their existing T45 suits.
The M60 Patton tank was basically just the M48 Patton with better Armour and a better engine with some minor visual differences but was still decided to be named a new tank instead of a variant of the M48.
@@EnemyAtom65 Not even close, the M577 is a M113 chassis with a a higher hull to provide room to walk in and have additional provisions as a command vehicle. The M3 is a variant of the M2 Bradley... And that's just more current armored vehicles I can think of immediately (my local regiment ran M113s and M577s for nearly 40 years so well acquainted with them). Also follows with firearms with the M4 being an evolution of the M16 design with some mechanical differences to improve reliability. Also it's worth noting though T series American vehicles did sometimes serve in some capacity during WW2 rather than just being prototypes such as the T30 howitzer motor carriage, which itself was a M3 half-track with a 75mm M1 Howitzer mounted. There's really no universal standard with the nomenclature of weapons that is strictly adhered to all the time for one reason or another, often politics, ask the F-111 crews.
the Mojave Brotherhood were intended to be wearing a mix of T-45d and T-51b suits in game, with the paladins in the bunker wearing T-51b while the knights wear T-45d. However Obsidian later commented that the reason the entire Mojave Brotherhood wears T-51b was simply due to a mistake when setting up the equipment lists for the BoS npcs, and the T-45d forgot to have the "can be used by this faction" flag added.
9:18 This actually makes a lot of sense. The armor would have been state of the art technology at the time. The last thing you would want is a deserter selling it to the highest bidder.
6:49 these in-game statements from the Brotherhood actually help prove the theory that the Black Devil armor in the lore is much stronger than what is in the game. Since you can encounter the Enclave in the main quest relatively early, the devs probably scaled down the power armor stats, so as to not absolutely wreak the player. So it's simply another case of gameplay vs lore. Edit: 39:54 that statement is just what I was trying to state
@@danielnunez1587 the Enclave had strong energy weapons, and if the armour in-game was made as strong as it was lore-wise, players would have an even worse time.
@@danielnunez1587 no, unfortunately. Still, if the developers made things exactly lore-equivelant, the Black Devil armor would be far stronger than Super Mutant skin and whatever scrap metal they have on them.
@@tinaherr3856 the overlord doesn't wear armor and he kills you in a few shots even with power armor on. I think the enclave killing us in a bit more than that would be ok
@@Boone69 You're out of uniform soldier, WHERE IS YOU HUMAN PILOT? You don't have any? DO YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIVE THAT MAGGOT? THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF HUMAN RESOURCES, THAT BODY WILL COME OUT FROM YOUR PAY, AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS ARMY UNTILL YOU ARE FIVE HUNDRED AND THEN YEARS FULL OF RUST, WICH IS NUMBER OF YEARS, IT WILL TAKE YOU TO PAY FOR A WELL TRAINED ENCLAVE HEAVY INFANTRY SOLDIER! Report to the armory and have a new body issued to you, then report back to me, private! DISMISSED!
Reference the Lyon's East Coast switch to T45 armor it may have been the West Coast main chapter getting rid of a batch of obsolete gear to equip a batch of dissidents being sent on a fool's errand. Alternatively, going off of Fallout 4 experience, the repair materials for T 45 are a lot cheaper and easier to scavenge (basically steel with some circuitry for the chest piece) than for the more complex T 51.
I've always thought something like this. I would postulate that since t-51b is fairly rare and probably harder to repair, they were sent east with the earlier t-45d. If I was the brotherhood, I'd rather waste a bunch of the cheaper models if things went south instead of wasting an entire chapters worth of t-51s
I think the thing on the back of the Salvaged armor is some kind of after-market Air Conditioning unit. To mitigate that problem you brought up about the suit getting toasty in the desert.
I was about to say the same. The tank-looking thing is likely an air tank for breathing in toxic environments, and the other gubbins may very well be a cooling unit to replace the suit's original thermal control. It makes a lot of sense to refit the suits like this, even if the "muscles" can't be replaced.
@@patrikhjorth3291 which would make the radiator unit on the backplate of the Scorched Sierra make sense too, big heatsink with active exhaust to push out as much as possible. One of the things Eddings through Sparhawk got right about plate armour is just how fast it gets hot and sweaty inside, even in cold climates you can be looking at heat stroke when the sun is out because then too you're wearing a gambeson under it. Which may also be part of the point of the recon suit, not interfacing with the mechanics, but the liquid cooling system.
I always interpreted it as a battery, they stripped out the servos, but not all the electrical components, so it would make sense that while no longer “powered” other systems like the helmet could still be functional
Regarding the Power Armour rebalance in Fallout 76, and the lore, I have an idea about why T-60 was introduced. The idea is that the T-51 were everything the US Army hoped... but the whiz-bang new polymer plating was expensive to produce... (And _maybe_ the numbers of those getting radiation sickness when using Fat Man catapults while wearing them was getting a _touch_ too high to ignore.) As the Power Armour Corps expanded, the budget couldn't keep up. So the higher-ups ordered that a cheaper alternative be designed. And designed _fast._ So a design team took the T-45 and updated it with new technologies. The result: the T-60. Technically a downgrade from the T-51 suits, but still powerful enough to satisfy all the requirements (including the increased radiation protection), while _also_ being quite a bit cheaper to produce. As for T-65? Since only the Secret Service has them? Bleeding-edge tech demonstrator. X-01's pre-War appearances can also be explained this way - as a commenter mentioned in response to another video - and I personally think it may be an attempt by another company to muscle in on the market that West Tek had a monopoly on at the time. And then the Enclave claimed/stole the schematics.
Good chance, it's often a reason for revamped programs using cheaper options, the prototypes build to the pinnacle while the production line is just good enough and made idiot proof for GI use.
This theory works well with another I heard where T-60 was built entirely for domestic use regarding the rise in riots and civilian unrest. It would also fit why in the start of FO4 you only see soldiers in T60 and continues the US's trend of giving army reserves slightly outdated or slightly altered equipment
I think I remember reading somewhere that it was supposed to be explained in a terminal that the DC Brotherhood used T-45 because they found a huge stockpile of it upon reaching The Pentagon and making it their home. After their journey to get there, the existing armour they had was damaged and with limited resources it was easier to just switch to the T-45 which was still "good enough"
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Sounds like a bad case of radiation sickness. Uhh I mean sounds like a good case of ascension into atoms glow. Just make sure not to freak out whenever your skin peels or you start stinking like a corpse. That part is completely normal
Maybe the cylinder on the back of the NCR Salvaged Armor is a lower tech workaround for the Air filtration system that you mentioned would normally be powered by the fusion core. Like an O2 canister from a scuba suit
I like the idea that the medic t45 was originally made with some help or input from the Big MT, yeah there’s the similarities to the stealth suit and the auto doc in the sink but it’s also just up their alley to make voice “ai”s that can be integrated with any kind of tech
In Fallout NV there’s a magazine called “Future Weapons Today” that has, what I personally believe to be, some prototype Tesla T-45. It’s black with an orange visor and has wires across the whole armor, and is on the games energy weapon magazine. I believe this was the first attempt at Tesla armor before they moved onto more advanced units. (Side note, T-60 is not the only armor that has Brotherhood paint jobs in 76, the T-51 has both a Knight and Paladin paint)
Re: the description of T60 vs the stats in 76. "More advanced" doesn't necessarily mean "more effective". Modern fighter jets are more advanced than older offerings, but aren't necessarily better than them depending on use-case. "Advanced" in this case could mean more modular, or easier to repair, or even just the fact it is built with a post-nuclear war environment in mind (hence the rad resistance). Just some thoughts! Incredible video as always! 💙💙💙
My take on T-60 was it is in effect an up-armour kit of the T-45, something a stretched US military fighting on multiple fronts could do to increase power armour suit numbers by retro-fitting older suits to mordern standards as demand for the more advanced T-51 was outstripping supply and this is why The Brotherhood is able to go full T-60 in just 10 years, these are the same suits from Fallout 3 just up-armoured to a better spec with data recovered from, well where ever they found it
Yeah. T-51 is likely more powerful in of itself but is likely harder to procure/repair. T-60 is better than the T-45. Likely has some of the T-51 upgrades but built onto a T-45 frame.
In my head canon, the T-60 power armor was developed to be a cheaper alternative to the T-51. The T-51 was still the best prewar power armor, but it was a rather expensive unit and for domestic operations it was not necessary to have that level of protection. So, the T-60 was developed.
I'm with some others with it basically being a massive upgrade package for T-45, developed because T-51 was so expensive and difficult to produce. And T-65 is an development to the T-51, since they do share some similarities, but it was way too expensive to deploy in any significant numbers.
With regards to BoS T-45 in New Vegas, according to the wiki they were supposed to use a mix of T45 and t 51 but a bug caused all but those hardcoded to have 45d to spawn with 51b.Crucially those supposed to have 45d still have 45d helmets.
To me, the T-65 power armour looks like a development of the T-51. Sure, it looks quite different, but if you compare things like the breast plate and pauldrons, they are _more_ similar to T-51 that T-60 pieces. It seems likely to me that this could be an attempt to update the T-51 design for higher spec, with a different profile to the plating but with a similar frame support, just like the T-60 is an update to T-45.
I always assumed the East Coast BoS used t45 because they were based in the pentagon, which would most likely have some power armor, but they probably couldn't spare any t51 suits in active military use
I like this Theory. But I know the Pentagon would absolutely send people to war while they get the new shit. My dad deployed to Kuwait in 91 and he showed me photos of him in woodlands. While at the Pentagon photos were taken within the same week as they all had Chocolate chip desert camouflage uniforms
It's probable that that's all the West Coast BoS sent them with. Remember, Lyons and his group were, while not officially, explicitly sent East to get them out of the way, since Lyons was a popular zealot who often clashed with the higher ranks. And that's also the origins of the Silent Hills BoS in F:NV. And also my headcanon for F:4's BoS (with them mostly consisting of former Outcast/Enclave).
I always thought that was the in-game explanation? The Brotherhood found an arsenal of the older suits under the Pentagon and used them instead of having to maintain the T-51b, and that's why they made the Pentagon ruins their HQ?
T45 is my favorite too because of FO3. I also tend to always join the Minute Men and gather the T-45s at the Castle and paint them in Minute Men colors. Any attack on the Castle is met by twenty Minute Men in full power armor and miniguns lol.
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As for the bits on the back of the Salvaged power armor, I think they might be used as some kind of cooling unit or air filtration unit. Probably hot as shit in that armor in the desert heat
we know the servos that *move* it are stripped out, because that's the part that needs training to use; it doesn't make sense that the NCR would also remove the very useful, nuclear powered, and no training required climate control and the like.
I only get a day or two per week where I can sit back and really lose myself in my games. What a treat that I'd get a new power armor lore video on a day I planned to spend playing Fallout. Another great one Radking, good stuff.
If I'm not mistaken I believe that in game it was stated that the Brotherhood got the majority of their T-60 power armor after defeating the Enclave at Adams airforce base
I’m pretty sure that’s not actually stated in the base game, I downloaded a mod called T-60 lore fix or something like that and it replaces the T-60 at the start of the game with T-51 and adds loading screen lore saying how the brotherhood got the schematics for T-60 which was a pre war prototype from Adams Air Force base and then mass produced it, that might be what you’re thinking of
In Fallout 4, they hint towards finding some pre-war cache of T-60 near Boston. But beyond that, there's not much there. Bethesda has only ever been good with Skyrim lore imo. But that's because 4 and 76 are lacking in lore. (With plenty of things to charge extra for!)
@@KalousTheGuy they literally fixed not only the T60 and T51 stat mix up that was in 4 but made my fan theory about X01 canon. so I'd say they did a good job.
31:31 my theory was this: Virginia Tech and MIT are both prolific engineering schools, MIT made the concept of power armor, which VT then made practical with the T-45 which was manufactured in VA, hence its presence in the east coast. MIT was given DOD funding to continue researching and creating better power armor, and in the short months between Anchorage and the Great War, they developed T-60, which was also manufactured in the East coast, and the brotherhood found it before entering Boston
I feel like the NCR Salvaged armor is more in line with they got rid of the Halo Spartan tier movement systems ("relax your muscles, let the suit do the work"); and replaced it with more deliberate systems that require direct input like a normal exoskeleton hence the weird pneumatic power pack on the back of the armor. Which means, it's still powered in a way - just not remotely as beneficial in the short term aside from being able to field it with anyone inside without risking the Iron Man 2 torso rip scene lol I could be entirely wrong, but that makes the most sense to me
T45 seems like the “produced in bulk” suit. Theres so many its easily repaired and modded, and in a wasteland where you cant produce new stuff, the best armor is the one that is expendable and repairable
I think the fallout 4 assault rifle has some reasons to exist. Water can protect some gamma radiation, so the water cooled barrel could have been used to protect the gun from deteriorating from radiation. The US military probably wanted a gun that could be changed into either a assault rifle or LMG. Still hate it
And you are right it can protect you need ALOT of it. Just two days ago watched a debunking vid of gamma radiation being stopped by lead and water and other myths. Lead was really bad water is great if you have meters of it. I doubt there is in distance enough of it even to work for radiation protection.
I'd always assumed the assault rifle just had a giant aluminum shroud like the old Lewis gun. It would be fitting with the weirdly retro tech and would be quite light for its bulk. Of course a water jacket on a rifle would make sense for Fallout logic too.😆
Water cooling is very effective for extended firing, it's just heavy so it was restricted to emplacement guns where a water supply could be hooked up. If you have a powered Exo suit the same set up becomes viable to have in a "hand" held configuration.
Another reason, that everyone seems to gloss over: Fallout is retro-styled, and Fo4 in specific is VERY American Revolution centric. The Assault Rifle is made that way to look like some WWI era machine guns, like the MG 08 or Lewis Gun
I don't remember where I read it but advanced power armor in fallout 3 was nerfed like really really hard right at end of game development so it's possible it's meant to be a lot harder then it is in finished game and Bethesda forgot to modify npc dialogue. Also hellfire enclave armor was also nerfed later possibly before the post game ending dlc which released with it forgot to balance it.
They should have just made enemies wearing the PA high-level enemies and have the lower rankings use combat Armor and T-51b and introduce "Advanced Power Armor training" which prevents players using it even if they have standard training.
Man some of those T-65 concepts look straight out of Warhammer 40k. Which makes me feel extremely conflicted on whether that is a good or a bad thing. The BoS are definitely an Iron Hands successor.
I’m fairly certain that the ncr salvaged power armor has a cooling system including in it by technicians. I think that’s what the stuff on the back is meant for.
Before fallout 4, I never really used power armor. I used it a bit in fallout 3(also my first game) when I first got training but stopped when I was constantly over-encumbered while wearing it. A +2 strength still makes the armor weigh like 20lbs in your inventory which is many times heavier than anything else you could wear. The increased DR just wasn’t worth not being able to carry as much other junk with me. My philosophy on this carried into FoNV where I never even touched it, and completed my entire play through in Benny’s suit, at least until I got stealth armor BAE. Fallout 4 was the first FPS game that made power armor actually useful by making it more of a vehicle than a suit of armor. It’s just such a shame that it was introduced so poorly, because it would’ve been an amazing end/midpoint item to look forward to unlocking. Keep up the good work my dude. I love your videos and look forward to them every week.
41:22 There are actually two Brotherhood paints that can be acquired by completing the Test Your Metal public event that are exclusive to the T-51 power armour, they’re the paints that Paladin Rahmani and Knight Shin use for their respective suits in the game
Waering the Scorched Sierra Power Armor with the restored helmet mod is *chef's kiss* satisfying. Then add the Titans Of The New West mod and it's just perfect.
I think its more probable that the Brotherhood found a stockpile of T-60 rather than just made them. Especially since T-60 is so much of an upgrade compared to T-45. Airships to power armor is a centuries long gap. I suppose its possible that they found the original factory and restored it, but I think it's a stretch to say they went from where we say them in fallout 3, to a society capable of replicating the cutting edge of pre war America in just 10 years. In the end I have no more proof for my theory then yours though, so either theory could be "true."
great video as usual Rad. my personal theory for east coast BoS using only T45 was that Lyon's expedition was meant to be a suicide mission in order to get rid of Lyon's ideals, end the Maxson bloodline, and consolidate power with the current regime. none of his troops are seen with even a shred of T51, and no gauss rifles, like you see in the Mohave. since there were previous attempts to only reach as far as the midwest that never returned, it stands to reason that if you have a loud mouth upstart talking about "helping the people" and "recruiting the public" instead of fulfilling your mission, that sending him twice as far as any previous expedition (F76 kindof ruins that pre-established lore a bit, but not terribly so), with the worst gear you have available should take care of that little issue. the only problem was Lyons actually reached his objective, and Arthur Maxson survived the journey so it was all just sort of kicking the can down the road. they could plausibly disavow knowledge of Lyon's actions by claiming contact had been cut, but if/when Lyons died and was replaced with a more "traditional" commander, they could "re-establish comms" with the group. it all seems too convenient that Lyons is so outside of the realm of accepted BoS doctrine, but was also entrusted to care for, and mentor the last Maxson, all while being farther from HQ than any other group, and using exclusively gear which is inferior to what the Mohave uses.
With T-60's bulky design it feels more a vehicle. Meant to use heavy weapons exclusively. Not as durable as T-51B but able to bear the weight of it's armament much better than it and T-45. I imagine while soldiers rush in within suits of T-51 having missile launchers and LMGs. T-60 wearers rain down lead and shrapnel with mini guns and auto grenade launchers. All while T-45 troops still use browning machine guns to hold the line defenses.
@@Themistocles30 It's too different to simply be called T-45 mk2. It would be like calling Enclave MK2 power armor X-02 when really under the hood X-01 and MK2 are completely different. Yes they similar in the outer design but one is just not built directly off the other. It's convergent nothing more. T-45 was a stopgap design in lore made in less than a month. In fact early suits didn't even a nuclear power source if I'm correct. T-60 though made most definitely to be a cheaper substitute to T-51B, a stopgap too if so. But you can't simply call it T-45 MK2 with a several year difference and different model(s) between them.
IMO they(east coast brotherhood Lyons) likely had T51 but since they didn't have the equipment to repair it anymore, they took the plates off the frames and replaced it with what they have the stuff to repair and replace in the DC area
But that is debunked by the Appalachian BoS, who made an arguably harder march but kept their T-51. More likely Lyons was given the leftover trash T-45 for his trek. Since said trek's purpose basically boiled down to: "we don't want to risk fighting you, but we do want you dead/gone. So go March across an entire continent without support and set up in the most badly destroyed part of the country (that our records show should be nothing but radioactive craters)."
My headcanon is that T60 was a design meant for CBRN environments, and built on the base design of the T45. Explains why it isn't quite as armored as T51. A trade off for the extra weight of heavier filtration and support systems. And it explains why the troops stateside had so many. There main threat at home would be riots, so lots of smoke, tear gas, and pepper spray floating around, so it makes sense to issue them with the armor that works better in toxic environments
My headcannon is that with recruitment and just loss of armor over time, the east coast brotherhood just grabbed whatever power armor they could, likely stopping at pre-war factories to salvage any armor possible. Possibly even restarting some to produce new armor
I think T-45 may be an easy model to repair in the field, since Asher’s armor is held together with strap and salvaged armor still moves. So it would make sense why the brother hood in their bunker facilities would use T-51 with heavy repair shops, but their exploration teams would use T-45
I'm a big fan of T65. I love the lore, it represents some very cool lore added to Fallout via 76, and not much cool lore came from Appalachia in general. Such a cool suit. My head lore says it didn't make it past the Rockys, but suits are waiting under the Denver Mint.
Here there are some fun questions that i’d like you, community, to try answer: 1)What are the attachments on top of the power armor helmets? (Aiming system? Heat vision?) 2)How does someone exit the power armor? Are there any visible comands? 3)Where is plugged the fusion core? (The core accommodation has a hole at the bottom) 4)How are the fingers operated? The model only shows a handle bei grabbed (pressure?) 5)How do you turn the torch on? Hidden button? No criticism, just curious about your head canon
Fun Fact: If you look at T-65 it actually shares some design elements of both T Series as well as the X-01. Examples I can give are that it has separated eye holes (X-01) BUT an external headlamp (T Series) As well the mouth vent thing on the front is elongated (X-01) but is also connected on either sides with tubing (T-Series)
7:00 I think this is a case of story and gameplay separation to be honest, like how the Minutemen lost the Castle to a single Mirelurk Queen in canon yet the moment the sole survivor shows up even our tiny squadron is expected to kill it. Canonically the Black Devil PA might actually have that kind of power but in game for balance reasons it doesn't, since you'd become basically immortal with it.
The thing about the T-45 armor and the T-60 armor is funny, cause even though the the brotherhood came entirely in T-60, the brotherhood in fallout 4 came from the capital wasteland from fallout 3! Meaning somehow after the events of 3, they were able to make production factories for the prdwyn and the armors, or they scavenged them somehow. Either way it’s still nuts to see the brotherhood in 4 is from 3.
Here's some headcanon to help with that. After the events of F:3 the BoS find the plans for the T-60 (which is basically an upgrade package for the T-45, developed because of how expensive/resource intense T-51 was), this can either be from The Pentagon databases or one of the Enclave bases. Or from absorbed Enclave remnants (if openly allowed to join). They also seize control/make trade arrangements with The Pitt, giving them access to all the raw materials they could need. They then upgrade all their T-45 to T-60. And now for some BoS headcanon that I wrote for some reason. If you only cared about the PA HC, stop reading now. At some point Maxson's growing fame (due to his numerous feats), charisma, and growing radical views allow him to convince the Outcasts (and a fair few Enclave, in secret if necessary. They might have also infiltrated earlier as well, and might have helped him with all of the previous feats/views) to rejoin the BoS. They immediately get to work radicalizing him further. This swells the BoS's numbers, and with the Capital wasteland pretty much secure, they begin to work on further expanding their influence, resulting in the airship program. But Maxson and his followers are constantly clashing with the BoS proper and the general population, and Elder Lyons begins looking for a way to get him out of the way (without another civil war). Then Eldar Lyons is killed (and maybe Sarah is severely injured, just for a bit more Maxson angst due to his crush on her) in a botched Synth replacement attempt. Giving the new Eldar (Sarah) the perfect excuse to send Maxson and his supporters away to the Commonwealth. And handedly explaining why the F:4 BoS acts more like an Outcast/Enclave hybrid than Lyons BoS, and why they have such a hate boner for Synths and the Institute.
I actually like Fallout 76's changes to power armor stats. T-60 being weaker in protection than T-51 doesn't necessarily contradict it being more advanced. T-60 might just have more efficient electronics, or be more responsive to the wearer's movements, or have better sensors, or any number of changes that don't include having thicker plating. I could easily see it being an economy model of power armor, developed later than the T-51 and with better tech, but not aiming for the same performance characteristics. For one real-life example, the US Air Force's F-35A multirole fighter has inferior kinematic performance to the older F-22A. But the 35 has superior sensors, sensor fusion, computing, and networking, as well as being cheaper and produced in larger numbers.
I once heard that the brotherhood did not want to lose any T-51 power armor when sending soldiers to the east coast. So they only send T-45 as for them it was disposable and easy to fix. This also why many believe that the centurion armor has a T-45 arm. As when the brotherhood went east they would most likely encounter the legion and loss a few man and armor fighting them. I have a personal theory of why they had so many models and why was the T-60 only found on the east coast. When the T-45 was developed the U.S thought it was the solution to the war. So they might manufacture the armor in the thousands. But when it only managed to stall chinese progress they realized they needed a more advance power armor. This would been the reason to make the T-51 and they would produce it in smaller numbers as they did not want to commit the same error of making it on large numbers just in case it did not succeed. When the armor became a success they decided to pull back all T-45 back to control main U.S and any new land they had taken in canada and mexico. This would explain it's absence on Anchorage and why there were not around. To not waste all the inferior T-45 they decided to make upgrades to the armor until it was a total different model deciding to name it T-60. They decided to slowly pull back T-45 back to the Pentagon as it was were they would upgrade. Every model of T-60 was send to nearby areas for riot control but with the war happening soon after the armor never had the chance to reach the west coast. This would be why there were so many T-45 on the east coast brotherhood was because they were mainly stored on the pentagon or at least a large number of them. This might been the same reason the brotherhood never used the enclave power armor for themselves. The T-45 was the armor they were familiar with and just like the Humvee in our world. It might be outdated and even unconventional but enough soldiers are familiar with it that if it broke on the road they could diagnose and fix the problem themselves. The T-60 might been similar enough where the brotherhood decided to use them. All they had to do was grab all the extra components from the enclave power armor and use the plans on the pentagon to upgrade from T-45 to T-60.
I have been at this game for 2 months now, and most of that time was spent blasting through the main story quests in 76, as well as connecting and upgrading the various power armor sets. Given the lack of content beyond the story lines, grinding the armor sets became a hobby. And with it, my one true annoyance with 76… no max level T45 armor. As a collector you farm the spawn locations for max armor; mostly within the cran bog. At the BOS outposts you will find max level T60, and 51b. Near the moonshine jamboree Is the only location I’m aware of you can find max level Raider helmet which is level 45. Because of diminishing returns in resistance, and the fact that legendary application is easily achieved, all of the armors are Perry equal. The REAL difference is the availability of the armor’s mods. Raider armor mods can be purchased and price manipulate with perks using caps from a vendor. T45, T51b, T60 mods are purchased from a vendor with caps that can be perk cost manipulated. Ultracite plans are a BOS quest reward and drop. Ultracite armor upgrades plans seem to just be dropped from scorched Queen. X01 plans are a reward for finishing enclave and the upgrades are sold for caps but enclave vendor. The Hellcat shot horns here in that it’s an readily available quest reward for the plans but the get plans for its upgrades, it’s part of the gold bullion grind. The gold grind for T65 and Strangle Heart is absolutely ridiculous, topped only by the sheer stupidity that is the stamp grind for the Union power armor set. But yea , just wear what you want. Far more fun that way
Kincaid park in Anchorage used to be a cold war missle defense base, it is full of bunkers and other military buildings. It was known as Point Campbell Military Reservation and had Nike-Hercules surface-to-air missiles. May be a cool place to add into a Fallout set in Alaska. As well as the Army star on the Chugach Mountains.
Also, the power armor suits in and around DC where probably recovered from the National Guard Armories and mobilization centers are older suits not the latest and greatest
hey RadKing! the reason ol ney or olney in fallout 3 is the death claw capital of the capital wasteland is because of the enclave im pretty sure. I am pretty sure it’s because they let the death claws loose to kill the nearby vault? if not that i’m 99% sure they let the deathclaws loose on the town itself
i suspect that the T-45 for the Lyons brotherhood came from National Guard depots since the army would be transitioning to T-51 and shifting older model suits into important areas of the country and occupied Canada, i would guess there were less T-51 suits....possibly because the army in the region was transitioning over to T-60 or was planing to hence the brotherhood in 4 managing to find so many suits in storage at Adams and other bases.
One thing I always wondered about with power armour is the fact it was mainly used to field weapons that vehicles could no longer transport due to the resource wars, so I wonder if any pre-power armour vehicles had energy weapons that were converted for power armour usage (I imagine the plasma caster falls into this group) i'd kill for a hugeass deathlaser with a chainsaw grip that was once intended for vehicular use.
Making T-60 a pre-war armor was a pretty shortsighted blunder that just raises unnecessary questions. Should have been developed over the decade by the Brotherhood to upgrade their abundance of T-45, would not need to explain why it was never mentioned before and it would display how powerful the East Coast Brotherhood had become.
Giving the brotherhood the ability to create a better armor or mass produce vertibirds leads to power creep cause you have to cook up ever bigger opposing factions to challenge them. It's much simpler just to say it was a late prewar evolution of T-45, BoS found them alongside the T-45's in LibertyPrime's basement, and either leave it as that accepting it as a retcon, or say the Lone Wanderer didn't notice the difference in the two armors cause they weren't a prewar soldier like the Sole Survivor and both armors were inferior to the rarer T-51's. Nice and tidy like that.
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I feel like the extra stuff at the back of the NCR salvaged power armor is there to replace what the removed electronic system's functions (air filtration, etc)
Say what you will about Fallout 4, but the weapon and armor crafting is just incredible. The segment of dude running around wrecking shit with a plasma powered super sledge one handed is just immaculate.
T60 being more common in Boston could be because Corvega was the one manufacturing it, since we know that industry leaders were working with the army to convert their production lines. And with t45 being so incredibly common, t60 could be based on it, just modified by Corvega themselves to better utilize existing production lines
Its possible that the stuff on the back of the Salvaged Power Armor is a battery to power the life support systems. EMP not doing as much damage still makes sense tho, since the armor wouldn't seize up and axt like a seizure ridden metal coffin.
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I’m thinking that the scrappy armor that carnal royez has is normal armor that he had but then when you nuke him that’s when he starts adding items, since he got nuked
I think it was implied that the Brotherhood found a cache of T-60 after they either defeated the Enclave at Adam’s Air Force Base or during their recon missions into the Commonwealth. But either way though, there was a line by Paladin Danse in Fallout 4 that confirms the Brotherhood don’t produce their T-60 power armor. It went something like, “imagine if the Brotherhood could produce their own power armor, we’d be unstoppable.” And I think he says this when you take him to Corvega Assembly Plant.
With the use of T-45D by Lyons Brotherhood I think the storyteller gave a good explanation with the west coast Brotherhood giving them T-45D out of their reserves as not to risk losing T-51B, I think this is supported by the Mojave chapter having T-45D in limited use. In regards to T-60B I think it was a mistake to make it a mass produced pre war model, I think a better explanation for it is that it was a pre war prototype model that the Brotherhood found the schematics for in Adams Air Force base and then mass produced it, either that or your theory that it could have been an upgrade to T-45D but I think that would only make sense as a post war upgrade by the Brotherhood. In my opinion the pre war US wouldn’t have had time to make so many new varieties of power armour, it was a new technology and so it would not make sense to keep mass producing so many different models, it just makes logistics a nightmare, having T-51B as the power armour used by front line units and the older T-45D being used on the home front or in reserve makes more sense to me. Also T-45A to C were meant to be prototypes that never saw mass production and were not actually practically useable, with the T-45A having a problem of cooking the user due to the huge amounts of heat generated, hence the protective suit that needs to be worn
I attributed the low distribution of T45 Suits in the Mojave chapter to the battle for Helios 1. It would seem likely that less experienced knights would be equipped with the less capable armor and suffered much higher casualties than T 51 equipped Paladins. It would also explain how the NCR has only T45 salvaged armor in its inventory. They struggled to down any of the T51 equipped Brotherhood troops.
I like the power armor that is being used by the brotherhood of steel in fallout 4 because it looks cool, and like it more with the hot roader paint skem
I like how angular the plates are on some of the armors. The angular shape makes it harder for projectiles to go through it. Even shaped charges wouldn't be able to easily go through. Although the joints are probably soft spots.
My best inference of why the T-45 is used by the East Coast “Brotherhood” is the suits were most likely National Guard/Reservist or possibly State Defense Force equipment. As for why the ECB only have it, I can only assume due to the extreme attrition due to the large number of zombies and muties in DC and the March to the former Capital. As for why the West Coast Brotherhood lacks it, I can only assume that with the relatively large stockpiles of more advanced armor, the T-45 would be relegated to second line units, or as training armor, which might explain why the NCR has such a large amount of salvaged armor, since the armor would not be in use, and thus captured intact, or the users were less skilled, and thus easier to get the armor from their corpses.
Could well be that 45 models were lost at a high attrition rate during the battle for Helios 1, leaving the surving Brotherhood with little of it left.
I’m typing this at the very beginning of the video; I was a kid I came I up with a theory pre-fallout 4, that the chest handle on T-45D was a late war addition used to drag injured soldiers away since it’s stated or at least, I’m pretty sure it was, that T-45D was taking heavier casualties leading to the development of T-51B
After watching most of your videos, I definitely want to do another play through of Fallout now. Took a long break from Bethesda games but it’s time to jump back into the wastes
There is a unique T-45 helmet/paint job in 76 called "Father winter helmet" It is statically identical to it's regular leveled counterpart, but sports a unique model that resembles the Father winter Fasnact mask. Surprisingly it's a rare reward from the seasonal event "Fasnact"
Thankfully the mod: Tale of Two Wastelands solves the lore question about T45d, it replaces the standard T45d power armour that BOS wear with the higher ranked soldiers wearing T51b which is pretty dope. Lots of cool lore friendly weapons added into the game too.
Little late but I thought they use the factory at adems air base it's been a long time but I'm pretty sure they use that to build there t-60 suits makes a lot of sense to me as if that was a enclave factory building hellfire or enclave suits then it's understandable that the bos use the same factory to build T-60 models
Just wanted to say, watching your stuff got me to brush off some of my college textbooks and look at the ethics of Vault-Tec. I'm actually almost done with the presentation, and I'm hoping to record and post the video to TH-cam on an alt. account.
Have you taken into account the ethics of a company openly recruiting people into their college and how weird it is that there is no record of people in the college goi g "what this is fucked up and evil"
There actually are Two Brotherhood of Steel paintjobs exclusive to the T-51b in Fallout 76, you can get the Knight and Paladin paints as a potential reward for the event "Test Your Metal"
Just my own opinion but I feel the T-65 is a redesign of Frank Horrigan's power armor from Fallout 2. Perhaps an earlier model even. He was former Secret Service after all.
18:50 this is actually a glitch (NV things), the scrips is to spawn with “brotherhood” power armor but it only allows T51 to be added, youll actually find some paladins have T45 helmets with T51 body armor
On the Salvaged Power Armour: the weight of the armour itself is 40, and the helmet is 5 weight units. If we are to assume that this is in pounds (and from what I can find, it is), then it actually wouldn't be all that bad, and would in fact, be in line with the weight of 15th century field plate armour (in fact, it would be on the lower end of plate armour weights). So it's actually a very impressive suit all things considered, and that weight is being distributed across the entire body rather than being centralized on just the back, like what modern soldiers carry (and modern soldiers carry even more weight than that on their backs). The NCR armourers knew exactly what they were doing. And just for reference, here's the mobility of someone in full plate: th-cam.com/video/q-bnM5SuQkI/w-d-xo.html
The "T" naming convention back in the day in the real world signified a test piece, it prefaced the "XM" prefix for experimental weapons and items, so the thought that all power armors kept their T prefix is interesting. It signifies that power armor of all types never even reached experimental fielding phase and was rushed into service.
Given their similarities, my personal headcanon is that T60 is heavily modified and reinforced T45. The reason that the BoS in Fallout 3 used T45 exclusively is that that's all the West Coast BoS sent with them. Remember that Lyons and his crew were sent east because the main BoS was trying to get rid of them. They also found several suits in the basement of the Pentagon. In my headcanon, I like to think that the T45 in the Pentagon were awaiting the application of a Modification Work Order (MWO) to bring it up to T60 standards, which is a common practice in the military when a new model of an existing item supercedes the obsolete item spec. This also explains why the BoS in Fallout 4 exclusively use T60. In the years between Fallout 3 and 4, they managed to successfully apply the MWO to their existing T45 suits.
The M60 Patton tank was basically just the M48 Patton with better Armour and a better engine with some minor visual differences but was still decided to be named a new tank instead of a variant of the M48.
So the United States is not shy of naming essentially variants as new vehicles
Makes sense to me.
@@EnemyAtom65 Not even close, the M577 is a M113 chassis with a a higher hull to provide room to walk in and have additional provisions as a command vehicle. The M3 is a variant of the M2 Bradley... And that's just more current armored vehicles I can think of immediately (my local regiment ran M113s and M577s for nearly 40 years so well acquainted with them). Also follows with firearms with the M4 being an evolution of the M16 design with some mechanical differences to improve reliability.
Also it's worth noting though T series American vehicles did sometimes serve in some capacity during WW2 rather than just being prototypes such as the T30 howitzer motor carriage, which itself was a M3 half-track with a 75mm M1 Howitzer mounted. There's really no universal standard with the nomenclature of weapons that is strictly adhered to all the time for one reason or another, often politics, ask the F-111 crews.
@@cericatyeah, that’s why there’s the joke “who comes up with these names?”
Then you have the Germans 🙄🙄🙄
the Mojave Brotherhood were intended to be wearing a mix of T-45d and T-51b suits in game, with the paladins in the bunker wearing T-51b while the knights wear T-45d. However Obsidian later commented that the reason the entire Mojave Brotherhood wears T-51b was simply due to a mistake when setting up the equipment lists for the BoS npcs, and the T-45d forgot to have the "can be used by this faction" flag added.
Sounds like the sort of thing that could have been patched or modded
It's kinda crazy just how many things are supposed to be in New Vegas and don't show up because of a coding error.
Neat
@@1983Corollait shows how incompetent obsidian are, its crazy. No wonder they are obsolete after new vegas.
Ohhhh that’s why the knights look like that lol
Fallout NV has my favourite set of T-series power armour. I love the look of Scorched Sierra power armour.
It is a sweet looking suit
Would have been even better if its helmet wasn't cut.
Definitely my favorite power armor of that game. Same with tribal in f3 Pitt. Such a shame neither have helmets
It's not proper power armour tho? Just the plates
@alexandre007opa It is real power armor. It requires the training to use and provides a strength bonus.
9:18 This actually makes a lot of sense. The armor would have been state of the art technology at the time. The last thing you would want is a deserter selling it to the highest bidder.
6:49 these in-game statements from the Brotherhood actually help prove the theory that the Black Devil armor in the lore is much stronger than what is in the game. Since you can encounter the Enclave in the main quest relatively early, the devs probably scaled down the power armor stats, so as to not absolutely wreak the player. So it's simply another case of gameplay vs lore.
Edit: 39:54 that statement is just what I was trying to state
Didn't seem to worry about super mutant overlords destroying us though
@@danielnunez1587 the Enclave had strong energy weapons, and if the armour in-game was made as strong as it was lore-wise, players would have an even worse time.
@@tinaherr3856 have you ever encountered an overlord with a tri-beam laser rifle?
@@danielnunez1587 no, unfortunately. Still, if the developers made things exactly lore-equivelant, the Black Devil armor would be far stronger than Super Mutant skin and whatever scrap metal they have on them.
@@tinaherr3856 the overlord doesn't wear armor and he kills you in a few shots even with power armor on. I think the enclave killing us in a bit more than that would be ok
Ever since seeing the medic T45, I had always wanted to see an exchange between Drill Sergeant Dornan and that power armor.
Lmao that would be hilarious
Dornan arguing with a power armor
@@Boone69 You're out of uniform soldier, WHERE IS YOU HUMAN PILOT? You don't have any? DO YOU EXPECT ME TO BELIVE THAT MAGGOT?
THE TRUTH IS YOU LOST AN EXPENSIVE PIECE OF HUMAN RESOURCES, THAT BODY WILL COME OUT FROM YOUR PAY, AND YOU WILL REMAIN IN THIS ARMY UNTILL YOU ARE FIVE HUNDRED AND THEN YEARS FULL OF RUST, WICH IS NUMBER OF YEARS, IT WILL TAKE YOU TO PAY FOR A WELL TRAINED ENCLAVE HEAVY INFANTRY SOLDIER!
Report to the armory and have a new body issued to you, then report back to me, private! DISMISSED!
@@Boone69You’re a set of power armour? You except me to believe that, MAGGOT?”
@@AlqhemyA 😂😂
The medic armor says something. “That was your power armor speaking? You expect me to believe that MAGGOT! The truth is you just BACK TALKED ME”
Reference the Lyon's East Coast switch to T45 armor it may have been the West Coast main chapter getting rid of a batch of obsolete gear to equip a batch of dissidents being sent on a fool's errand. Alternatively, going off of Fallout 4 experience, the repair materials for T 45 are a lot cheaper and easier to scavenge (basically steel with some circuitry for the chest piece) than for the more complex T 51.
The west coast basically sent Lyon’s out to die so it makes sense they would get the scraps
I've always thought something like this. I would postulate that since t-51b is fairly rare and probably harder to repair, they were sent east with the earlier t-45d. If I was the brotherhood, I'd rather waste a bunch of the cheaper models if things went south instead of wasting an entire chapters worth of t-51s
I thought that one of the Paladins in 3 said they found cache of T-45d in the Capitol Wasteland. Might have even specified the Pentagon itself.
I think the thing on the back of the Salvaged armor is some kind of after-market Air Conditioning unit. To mitigate that problem you brought up about the suit getting toasty in the desert.
I was about to say the same. The tank-looking thing is likely an air tank for breathing in toxic environments, and the other gubbins may very well be a cooling unit to replace the suit's original thermal control.
It makes a lot of sense to refit the suits like this, even if the "muscles" can't be replaced.
@@patrikhjorth3291 which would make the radiator unit on the backplate of the Scorched Sierra make sense too, big heatsink with active exhaust to push out as much as possible. One of the things Eddings through Sparhawk got right about plate armour is just how fast it gets hot and sweaty inside, even in cold climates you can be looking at heat stroke when the sun is out because then too you're wearing a gambeson under it. Which may also be part of the point of the recon suit, not interfacing with the mechanics, but the liquid cooling system.
That’s what I was gonna say
I always interpreted it as a battery, they stripped out the servos, but not all the electrical components, so it would make sense that while no longer “powered” other systems like the helmet could still be functional
Regarding the Power Armour rebalance in Fallout 76, and the lore, I have an idea about why T-60 was introduced.
The idea is that the T-51 were everything the US Army hoped... but the whiz-bang new polymer plating was expensive to produce... (And _maybe_ the numbers of those getting radiation sickness when using Fat Man catapults while wearing them was getting a _touch_ too high to ignore.)
As the Power Armour Corps expanded, the budget couldn't keep up. So the higher-ups ordered that a cheaper alternative be designed. And designed _fast._
So a design team took the T-45 and updated it with new technologies. The result: the T-60.
Technically a downgrade from the T-51 suits, but still powerful enough to satisfy all the requirements (including the increased radiation protection), while _also_ being quite a bit cheaper to produce.
As for T-65? Since only the Secret Service has them? Bleeding-edge tech demonstrator.
X-01's pre-War appearances can also be explained this way - as a commenter mentioned in response to another video - and I personally think it may be an attempt by another company to muscle in on the market that West Tek had a monopoly on at the time.
And then the Enclave claimed/stole the schematics.
Good chance, it's often a reason for revamped programs using cheaper options, the prototypes build to the pinnacle while the production line is just good enough and made idiot proof for GI use.
A bit like the T72 to the T62 tanks.
This theory works well with another I heard where T-60 was built entirely for domestic use regarding the rise in riots and civilian unrest.
It would also fit why in the start of FO4 you only see soldiers in T60 and continues the US's trend of giving army reserves slightly outdated or slightly altered equipment
@@swampdonkey1567 you mean T-64 right?
X-01 could have been Simultaneously developed by a different research group or company
I think I remember reading somewhere that it was supposed to be explained in a terminal that the DC Brotherhood used T-45 because they found a huge stockpile of it upon reaching The Pentagon and making it their home. After their journey to get there, the existing armour they had was damaged and with limited resources it was easier to just switch to the T-45 which was still "good enough"
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Sounds like a bad case of radiation sickness. Uhh I mean sounds like a good case of ascension into atoms glow. Just make sure not to freak out whenever your skin peels or you start stinking like a corpse. That part is completely normal
hmmm
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Maybe the cylinder on the back of the NCR Salvaged Armor is a lower tech workaround for the Air filtration system that you mentioned would normally be powered by the fusion core. Like an O2 canister from a scuba suit
Considering sometimes you can find cooling unit on their bodies this would check out.
That or my game has gotten unreasonably buggy.
I like the idea that the medic t45 was originally made with some help or input from the Big MT, yeah there’s the similarities to the stealth suit and the auto doc in the sink but it’s also just up their alley to make voice “ai”s that can be integrated with any kind of tech
Speaking of AI integrated power armor, what do you think of the Sentinel Control System in Fallout 4 Creation Club?
T65 has a bit of a bomb squad look to it, like specifically where the bulk is added and how it has a space behind a few of the shield parts
In Fallout NV there’s a magazine called “Future Weapons Today” that has, what I personally believe to be, some prototype Tesla T-45. It’s black with an orange visor and has wires across the whole armor, and is on the games energy weapon magazine. I believe this was the first attempt at Tesla armor before they moved onto more advanced units.
(Side note, T-60 is not the only armor that has Brotherhood paint jobs in 76, the T-51 has both a Knight and Paladin paint)
Re: the description of T60 vs the stats in 76. "More advanced" doesn't necessarily mean "more effective". Modern fighter jets are more advanced than older offerings, but aren't necessarily better than them depending on use-case. "Advanced" in this case could mean more modular, or easier to repair, or even just the fact it is built with a post-nuclear war environment in mind (hence the rad resistance).
Just some thoughts! Incredible video as always! 💙💙💙
My take on T-60 was it is in effect an up-armour kit of the T-45, something a stretched US military fighting on multiple fronts could do to increase power armour suit numbers by retro-fitting older suits to mordern standards as demand for the more advanced T-51 was outstripping supply and this is why The Brotherhood is able to go full T-60 in just 10 years, these are the same suits from Fallout 3 just up-armoured to a better spec with data recovered from, well where ever they found it
I know fallout 76 isn't the best game but I prefer what they did with the power armor balance in that game over fallout 4's
Yeah. T-51 is likely more powerful in of itself but is likely harder to procure/repair. T-60 is better than the T-45. Likely has some of the T-51 upgrades but built onto a T-45 frame.
In my head canon, the T-60 power armor was developed to be a cheaper alternative to the T-51. The T-51 was still the best prewar power armor, but it was a rather expensive unit and for domestic operations it was not necessary to have that level of protection. So, the T-60 was developed.
I'm with some others with it basically being a massive upgrade package for T-45, developed because T-51 was so expensive and difficult to produce. And T-65 is an development to the T-51, since they do share some similarities, but it was way too expensive to deploy in any significant numbers.
With regards to BoS T-45 in New Vegas, according to the wiki they were supposed to use a mix of T45 and t 51 but a bug caused all but those hardcoded to have 45d to spawn with 51b.Crucially those supposed to have 45d still have 45d helmets.
To me, the T-65 power armour looks like a development of the T-51.
Sure, it looks quite different, but if you compare things like the breast plate and pauldrons, they are _more_ similar to T-51 that T-60 pieces.
It seems likely to me that this could be an attempt to update the T-51 design for higher spec, with a different profile to the plating but with a similar frame support, just like the T-60 is an update to T-45.
I always assumed the East Coast BoS used t45 because they were based in the pentagon, which would most likely have some power armor, but they probably couldn't spare any t51 suits in active military use
I like this Theory. But I know the Pentagon would absolutely send people to war while they get the new shit. My dad deployed to Kuwait in 91 and he showed me photos of him in woodlands. While at the Pentagon photos were taken within the same week as they all had Chocolate chip desert camouflage uniforms
It's probable that that's all the West Coast BoS sent them with. Remember, Lyons and his group were, while not officially, explicitly sent East to get them out of the way, since Lyons was a popular zealot who often clashed with the higher ranks. And that's also the origins of the Silent Hills BoS in F:NV. And also my headcanon for F:4's BoS (with them mostly consisting of former Outcast/Enclave).
I always thought that was the in-game explanation? The Brotherhood found an arsenal of the older suits under the Pentagon and used them instead of having to maintain the T-51b, and that's why they made the Pentagon ruins their HQ?
Considering how resource deprived the bos is in fallout 3 this makes tons of sense, probably the few remaining suits of t51 are stored somewhere safe
i thought they mention that in fall out 3
T45 is my favorite too because of FO3. I also tend to always join the Minute Men and gather the T-45s at the Castle and paint them in Minute Men colors. Any attack on the Castle is met by twenty Minute Men in full power armor and miniguns lol.
“This should be an easy raid on these stoopid minutemen people, wait what’s that whirring sound… OH SHT”
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As for the bits on the back of the Salvaged power armor, I think they might be used as some kind of cooling unit or air filtration unit. Probably hot as shit in that armor in the desert heat
we know the servos that *move* it are stripped out, because that's the part that needs training to use; it doesn't make sense that the NCR would also remove the very useful, nuclear powered, and no training required climate control and the like.
I just repaired the T-51b suit in the BoS bunker in Fallout 1. Had to call it a night after I got it equipped but I'm excited to try it
I only get a day or two per week where I can sit back and really lose myself in my games.
What a treat that I'd get a new power armor lore video on a day I planned to spend playing Fallout.
Another great one Radking, good stuff.
If I'm not mistaken I believe that in game it was stated that the Brotherhood got the majority of their T-60 power armor after defeating the Enclave at Adams airforce base
I’m pretty sure that’s not actually stated in the base game, I downloaded a mod called T-60 lore fix or something like that and it replaces the T-60 at the start of the game with T-51 and adds loading screen lore saying how the brotherhood got the schematics for T-60 which was a pre war prototype from Adams Air Force base and then mass produced it, that might be what you’re thinking of
In Fallout 4, they hint towards finding some pre-war cache of T-60 near Boston.
But beyond that, there's not much there. Bethesda has only ever been good with Skyrim lore imo. But that's because 4 and 76 are lacking in lore. (With plenty of things to charge extra for!)
@@KalousTheGuy 76 has exceptionally good power armor lore.
@@Pigness7
Uhm.. yeah. Okay.
@@KalousTheGuy they literally fixed not only the T60 and T51 stat mix up that was in 4 but made my fan theory about X01 canon. so I'd say they did a good job.
31:31 my theory was this: Virginia Tech and MIT are both prolific engineering schools, MIT made the concept of power armor, which VT then made practical with the T-45 which was manufactured in VA, hence its presence in the east coast. MIT was given DOD funding to continue researching and creating better power armor, and in the short months between Anchorage and the Great War, they developed T-60, which was also manufactured in the East coast, and the brotherhood found it before entering Boston
I feel like the NCR Salvaged armor is more in line with they got rid of the Halo Spartan tier movement systems ("relax your muscles, let the suit do the work"); and replaced it with more deliberate systems that require direct input like a normal exoskeleton hence the weird pneumatic power pack on the back of the armor. Which means, it's still powered in a way - just not remotely as beneficial in the short term aside from being able to field it with anyone inside without risking the Iron Man 2 torso rip scene lol
I could be entirely wrong, but that makes the most sense to me
T45 seems like the “produced in bulk” suit. Theres so many its easily repaired and modded, and in a wasteland where you cant produce new stuff, the best armor is the one that is expendable and repairable
I think the fallout 4 assault rifle has some reasons to exist. Water can protect some gamma radiation, so the water cooled barrel could have been used to protect the gun from deteriorating from radiation. The US military probably wanted a gun that could be changed into either a assault rifle or LMG. Still hate it
And you are right it can protect you need ALOT of it. Just two days ago watched a debunking vid of gamma radiation being stopped by lead and water and other myths. Lead was really bad water is great if you have meters of it. I doubt there is in distance enough of it even to work for radiation protection.
@@Hiihtopipa it is supposed to protect against the small amount of radiation left over after the bombs fell
I'd always assumed the assault rifle just had a giant aluminum shroud like the old Lewis gun. It would be fitting with the weirdly retro tech and would be quite light for its bulk.
Of course a water jacket on a rifle would make sense for Fallout logic too.😆
Water cooling is very effective for extended firing, it's just heavy so it was restricted to emplacement guns where a water supply could be hooked up.
If you have a powered Exo suit the same set up becomes viable to have in a "hand" held configuration.
Another reason, that everyone seems to gloss over: Fallout is retro-styled, and Fo4 in specific is VERY American Revolution centric. The Assault Rifle is made that way to look like some WWI era machine guns, like the MG 08 or Lewis Gun
I don't remember where I read it but advanced power armor in fallout 3 was nerfed like really really hard right at end of game development so it's possible it's meant to be a lot harder then it is in finished game and Bethesda forgot to modify npc dialogue.
Also hellfire enclave armor was also nerfed later possibly before the post game ending dlc which released with it forgot to balance it.
They should have just made enemies wearing the PA high-level enemies and have the lower rankings use combat Armor and T-51b and introduce "Advanced Power Armor training" which prevents players using it even if they have standard training.
Hey, just wanted to give information that in the event, "test your metal" you have thr ability to get t51 brotherhood power armor
Man some of those T-65 concepts look straight out of Warhammer 40k.
Which makes me feel extremely conflicted on whether that is a good or a bad thing.
The BoS are definitely an Iron Hands successor.
I’m fairly certain that the ncr salvaged power armor has a cooling system including in it by technicians. I think that’s what the stuff on the back is meant for.
Banger videos my man! Very happy I found the channel.
Before fallout 4, I never really used power armor. I used it a bit in fallout 3(also my first game) when I first got training but stopped when I was constantly over-encumbered while wearing it. A +2 strength still makes the armor weigh like 20lbs in your inventory which is many times heavier than anything else you could wear. The increased DR just wasn’t worth not being able to carry as much other junk with me. My philosophy on this carried into FoNV where I never even touched it, and completed my entire play through in Benny’s suit, at least until I got stealth armor BAE. Fallout 4 was the first FPS game that made power armor actually useful by making it more of a vehicle than a suit of armor. It’s just such a shame that it was introduced so poorly, because it would’ve been an amazing end/midpoint item to look forward to unlocking.
Keep up the good work my dude. I love your videos and look forward to them every week.
41:22 There are actually two Brotherhood paints that can be acquired by completing the Test Your Metal public event that are exclusive to the T-51 power armour, they’re the paints that Paladin Rahmani and Knight Shin use for their respective suits in the game
Waering the Scorched Sierra Power Armor with the restored helmet mod is *chef's kiss* satisfying. Then add the Titans Of The New West mod and it's just perfect.
I think its more probable that the Brotherhood found a stockpile of T-60 rather than just made them. Especially since T-60 is so much of an upgrade compared to T-45. Airships to power armor is a centuries long gap. I suppose its possible that they found the original factory and restored it, but I think it's a stretch to say they went from where we say them in fallout 3, to a society capable of replicating the cutting edge of pre war America in just 10 years. In the end I have no more proof for my theory then yours though, so either theory could be "true."
great video as usual Rad. my personal theory for east coast BoS using only T45 was that Lyon's expedition was meant to be a suicide mission in order to get rid of Lyon's ideals, end the Maxson bloodline, and consolidate power with the current regime. none of his troops are seen with even a shred of T51, and no gauss rifles, like you see in the Mohave. since there were previous attempts to only reach as far as the midwest that never returned, it stands to reason that if you have a loud mouth upstart talking about "helping the people" and "recruiting the public" instead of fulfilling your mission, that sending him twice as far as any previous expedition (F76 kindof ruins that pre-established lore a bit, but not terribly so), with the worst gear you have available should take care of that little issue. the only problem was Lyons actually reached his objective, and Arthur Maxson survived the journey so it was all just sort of kicking the can down the road. they could plausibly disavow knowledge of Lyon's actions by claiming contact had been cut, but if/when Lyons died and was replaced with a more "traditional" commander, they could "re-establish comms" with the group. it all seems too convenient that Lyons is so outside of the realm of accepted BoS doctrine, but was also entrusted to care for, and mentor the last Maxson, all while being farther from HQ than any other group, and using exclusively gear which is inferior to what the Mohave uses.
The t60 should of been called the t45 mark 2.
With T-60's bulky design it feels more a vehicle. Meant to use heavy weapons exclusively. Not as durable as T-51B but able to bear the weight of it's armament much better than it and T-45. I imagine while soldiers rush in within suits of T-51 having missile launchers and LMGs. T-60 wearers rain down lead and shrapnel with mini guns and auto grenade launchers. All while T-45 troops still use browning machine guns to hold the line defenses.
@@achair7265 It should of just been an upgraded t45 with bulkier armor and helm.
@@Themistocles30 It's too different to simply be called T-45 mk2. It would be like calling Enclave MK2 power armor X-02 when really under the hood X-01 and MK2 are completely different. Yes they similar in the outer design but one is just not built directly off the other. It's convergent nothing more. T-45 was a stopgap design in lore made in less than a month. In fact early suits didn't even a nuclear power source if I'm correct. T-60 though made most definitely to be a cheaper substitute to T-51B, a stopgap too if so. But you can't simply call it T-45 MK2 with a several year difference and different model(s) between them.
@@achair7265 You do know that the t60 was going to be the new version of the t45 when the devs were making this game. But they changed it.
@@Themistocles30 You mean a redesign?
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Love me some NV
17:01 "i dont have an answer" was immaculately perfectly timed with what happened in game
IMO they(east coast brotherhood Lyons) likely had T51 but since they didn't have the equipment to repair it anymore, they took the plates off the frames and replaced it with what they have the stuff to repair and replace in the DC area
But that is debunked by the Appalachian BoS, who made an arguably harder march but kept their T-51. More likely Lyons was given the leftover trash T-45 for his trek. Since said trek's purpose basically boiled down to: "we don't want to risk fighting you, but we do want you dead/gone. So go March across an entire continent without support and set up in the most badly destroyed part of the country (that our records show should be nothing but radioactive craters)."
My headcanon is that T60 was a design meant for CBRN environments, and built on the base design of the T45. Explains why it isn't quite as armored as T51. A trade off for the extra weight of heavier filtration and support systems. And it explains why the troops stateside had so many. There main threat at home would be riots, so lots of smoke, tear gas, and pepper spray floating around, so it makes sense to issue them with the armor that works better in toxic environments
My headcannon is that with recruitment and just loss of armor over time, the east coast brotherhood just grabbed whatever power armor they could, likely stopping at pre-war factories to salvage any armor possible. Possibly even restarting some to produce new armor
I think T-45 may be an easy model to repair in the field, since Asher’s armor is held together with strap and salvaged armor still moves. So it would make sense why the brother hood in their bunker facilities would use T-51 with heavy repair shops, but their exploration teams would use T-45
I'm a big fan of T65. I love the lore, it represents some very cool lore added to Fallout via 76, and not much cool lore came from Appalachia in general. Such a cool suit. My head lore says it didn't make it past the Rockys, but suits are waiting under the Denver Mint.
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Welcome!
Here there are some fun questions that i’d like you, community, to try answer:
1)What are the attachments on top of the power armor helmets? (Aiming system? Heat vision?)
2)How does someone exit the power armor? Are there any visible comands?
3)Where is plugged the fusion core? (The core accommodation has a hole at the bottom)
4)How are the fingers operated? The model only shows a handle bei grabbed (pressure?)
5)How do you turn the torch on? Hidden button?
No criticism, just curious about your head canon
Fun Fact: If you look at T-65 it actually shares some design elements of both T Series as well as the X-01.
Examples I can give are that it has separated eye holes (X-01) BUT an external headlamp (T Series)
As well the mouth vent thing on the front is elongated (X-01) but is also connected on either sides with tubing (T-Series)
7:00 I think this is a case of story and gameplay separation to be honest, like how the Minutemen lost the Castle to a single Mirelurk Queen in canon yet the moment the sole survivor shows up even our tiny squadron is expected to kill it. Canonically the Black Devil PA might actually have that kind of power but in game for balance reasons it doesn't, since you'd become basically immortal with it.
The thing about the T-45 armor and the T-60 armor is funny, cause even though the the brotherhood came entirely in T-60, the brotherhood in fallout 4 came from the capital wasteland from fallout 3! Meaning somehow after the events of 3, they were able to make production factories for the prdwyn and the armors, or they scavenged them somehow. Either way it’s still nuts to see the brotherhood in 4 is from 3.
Here's some headcanon to help with that.
After the events of F:3 the BoS find the plans for the T-60 (which is basically an upgrade package for the T-45, developed because of how expensive/resource intense T-51 was), this can either be from The Pentagon databases or one of the Enclave bases. Or from absorbed Enclave remnants (if openly allowed to join). They also seize control/make trade arrangements with The Pitt, giving them access to all the raw materials they could need. They then upgrade all their T-45 to T-60.
And now for some BoS headcanon that I wrote for some reason. If you only cared about the PA HC, stop reading now.
At some point Maxson's growing fame (due to his numerous feats), charisma, and growing radical views allow him to convince the Outcasts (and a fair few Enclave, in secret if necessary. They might have also infiltrated earlier as well, and might have helped him with all of the previous feats/views) to rejoin the BoS. They immediately get to work radicalizing him further. This swells the BoS's numbers, and with the Capital wasteland pretty much secure, they begin to work on further expanding their influence, resulting in the airship program. But Maxson and his followers are constantly clashing with the BoS proper and the general population, and Elder Lyons begins looking for a way to get him out of the way (without another civil war). Then Eldar Lyons is killed (and maybe Sarah is severely injured, just for a bit more Maxson angst due to his crush on her) in a botched Synth replacement attempt. Giving the new Eldar (Sarah) the perfect excuse to send Maxson and his supporters away to the Commonwealth. And handedly explaining why the F:4 BoS acts more like an Outcast/Enclave hybrid than Lyons BoS, and why they have such a hate boner for Synths and the Institute.
I actually like Fallout 76's changes to power armor stats. T-60 being weaker in protection than T-51 doesn't necessarily contradict it being more advanced. T-60 might just have more efficient electronics, or be more responsive to the wearer's movements, or have better sensors, or any number of changes that don't include having thicker plating. I could easily see it being an economy model of power armor, developed later than the T-51 and with better tech, but not aiming for the same performance characteristics.
For one real-life example, the US Air Force's F-35A multirole fighter has inferior kinematic performance to the older F-22A. But the 35 has superior sensors, sensor fusion, computing, and networking, as well as being cheaper and produced in larger numbers.
I once heard that the brotherhood did not want to lose any T-51 power armor when sending soldiers to the east coast. So they only send T-45 as for them it was disposable and easy to fix. This also why many believe that the centurion armor has a T-45 arm. As when the brotherhood went east they would most likely encounter the legion and loss a few man and armor fighting them.
I have a personal theory of why they had so many models and why was the T-60 only found on the east coast. When the T-45 was developed the U.S thought it was the solution to the war. So they might manufacture the armor in the thousands. But when it only managed to stall chinese progress they realized they needed a more advance power armor. This would been the reason to make the T-51 and they would produce it in smaller numbers as they did not want to commit the same error of making it on large numbers just in case it did not succeed. When the armor became a success they decided to pull back all T-45 back to control main U.S and any new land they had taken in canada and mexico. This would explain it's absence on Anchorage and why there were not around. To not waste all the inferior T-45 they decided to make upgrades to the armor until it was a total different model deciding to name it T-60. They decided to slowly pull back T-45 back to the Pentagon as it was were they would upgrade. Every model of T-60 was send to nearby areas for riot control but with the war happening soon after the armor never had the chance to reach the west coast. This would be why there were so many T-45 on the east coast brotherhood was because they were mainly stored on the pentagon or at least a large number of them. This might been the same reason the brotherhood never used the enclave power armor for themselves. The T-45 was the armor they were familiar with and just like the Humvee in our world. It might be outdated and even unconventional but enough soldiers are familiar with it that if it broke on the road they could diagnose and fix the problem themselves. The T-60 might been similar enough where the brotherhood decided to use them. All they had to do was grab all the extra components from the enclave power armor and use the plans on the pentagon to upgrade from T-45 to T-60.
I have been at this game for 2 months now, and most of that time was spent blasting through the main story quests in 76, as well as connecting and upgrading the various power armor sets.
Given the lack of content beyond the story lines, grinding the armor sets became a hobby. And with it, my one true annoyance with 76… no max level T45 armor.
As a collector you farm the spawn locations for max armor; mostly within the cran bog. At the BOS outposts you will find max level T60, and 51b. Near the moonshine jamboree Is the only location I’m aware of you can find max level Raider helmet which is level 45.
Because of diminishing returns in resistance, and the fact that legendary application is easily achieved, all of the armors are Perry equal. The REAL difference is the availability of the armor’s mods.
Raider armor mods can be purchased and price manipulate with perks using caps from a vendor. T45, T51b, T60 mods are purchased from a vendor with caps that can be perk cost manipulated. Ultracite plans are a BOS quest reward and drop. Ultracite armor upgrades plans seem to just be dropped from scorched Queen. X01 plans are a reward for finishing enclave and the upgrades are sold for caps but enclave vendor.
The Hellcat shot horns here in that it’s an readily available quest reward for the plans but the get plans for its upgrades, it’s part of the gold bullion grind.
The gold grind for T65 and Strangle Heart is absolutely ridiculous, topped only by the sheer stupidity that is the stamp grind for the Union power armor set.
But yea , just wear what you want. Far more fun that way
Kincaid park in Anchorage used to be a cold war missle defense base, it is full of bunkers and other military buildings. It was known as Point Campbell Military Reservation and had Nike-Hercules surface-to-air missiles. May be a cool place to add into a Fallout set in Alaska. As well as the Army star on the Chugach Mountains.
Also, the power armor suits in and around DC where probably recovered from the National Guard Armories and mobilization centers are older suits not the latest and greatest
hey RadKing! the reason ol ney or olney in fallout 3 is the death claw capital of the capital wasteland is because of the enclave im pretty sure. I am pretty sure it’s because they let the death claws loose to kill the nearby vault? if not that i’m 99% sure they let the deathclaws loose on the town itself
i suspect that the T-45 for the Lyons brotherhood came from National Guard depots since the army would be transitioning to T-51 and shifting older model suits into important areas of the country and occupied Canada, i would guess there were less T-51 suits....possibly because the army in the region was transitioning over to T-60 or was planing to hence the brotherhood in 4 managing to find so many suits in storage at Adams and other bases.
One thing I always wondered about with power armour is the fact it was mainly used to field weapons that vehicles could no longer transport due to the resource wars, so I wonder if any pre-power armour vehicles had energy weapons that were converted for power armour usage (I imagine the plasma caster falls into this group) i'd kill for a hugeass deathlaser with a chainsaw grip that was once intended for vehicular use.
Making T-60 a pre-war armor was a pretty shortsighted blunder that just raises unnecessary questions. Should have been developed over the decade by the Brotherhood to upgrade their abundance of T-45, would not need to explain why it was never mentioned before and it would display how powerful the East Coast Brotherhood had become.
Giving the brotherhood the ability to create a better armor or mass produce vertibirds leads to power creep cause you have to cook up ever bigger opposing factions to challenge them. It's much simpler just to say it was a late prewar evolution of T-45, BoS found them alongside the T-45's in LibertyPrime's basement, and either leave it as that accepting it as a retcon, or say the Lone Wanderer didn't notice the difference in the two armors cause they weren't a prewar soldier like the Sole Survivor and both armors were inferior to the rarer T-51's. Nice and tidy like that.
I don't know why but RadKing has somewhat converted me or at least taught me to respect the children of atom more then any other faction. I would also like to mention that I've really enjoyed your video mans keep doing what your doing and never change.
I couldn’t agree more! I hope he keeps it up and never changes. Never change.
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Man these videos keep making me want to replay fallout 3
My plan is working then. Play it!
@@Rad_King I have been wanting to destroy the temple of union lately. Maybe I should.
I feel like the extra stuff at the back of the NCR salvaged power armor is there to replace what the removed electronic system's functions (air filtration, etc)
And considering the region, probably an expanded water supply/water filtration system.
My favorite power armor in any game is the lonesome road dlc Scorched Sierra Power Armor. Damn it looks slick. Totally worth nuking NCR lol
Say what you will about Fallout 4, but the weapon and armor crafting is just incredible. The segment of dude running around wrecking shit with a plasma powered super sledge one handed is just immaculate.
T60 being more common in Boston could be because Corvega was the one manufacturing it, since we know that industry leaders were working with the army to convert their production lines.
And with t45 being so incredibly common, t60 could be based on it, just modified by Corvega themselves to better utilize existing production lines
T-65 is close to my favorite but T-51 Ultracit power armor is my favorite.
You can throw BoS paints on T-51. I know there is a Knight and also a Paladin paint for it at the least.
I think the Brotherhood of Steel found a working power armor factory and started production.
22:07 I think that extra stuff on the back could be an ac system that was added so troops wouldn't get so hot in the Mojave
The backpack looks like a swamp cooler, a simple way to stay cooler
Its possible that the stuff on the back of the Salvaged Power Armor is a battery to power the life support systems. EMP not doing as much damage still makes sense tho, since the armor wouldn't seize up and axt like a seizure ridden metal coffin.
I'm not even a huge Fallout fan but I admire the detail in these videos.
As long as you get something out of it, I am happy.
Hi I know this is a very old video but I know a great video you can do it is going over the pre war fallout and the after fallout universe
T-51 is usually the main in 76 with the Knight Shin Paint
i came to watch this, i subbed and liked the video from your video “ambiguity is the point” i love your content i can’t believe i haven’t found you sooner than this year!
I’m thinking that the scrappy armor that carnal royez has is normal armor that he had but then when you nuke him that’s when he starts adding items, since he got nuked
honestly the t-65 looks more like it came out of a gundam series compared to the other suits
I think it was implied that the Brotherhood found a cache of T-60 after they either defeated the Enclave at Adam’s Air Force Base or during their recon missions into the Commonwealth. But either way though, there was a line by Paladin Danse in Fallout 4 that confirms the Brotherhood don’t produce their T-60 power armor. It went something like, “imagine if the Brotherhood could produce their own power armor, we’d be unstoppable.” And I think he says this when you take him to Corvega Assembly Plant.
I personally believe the stuff on the back of the NCR Salvaged PA is some sort of cooling system so that the wearer doesn’t overheat
Ah yes, T85 power armor, released 75 seconds before the great war, and saw extensive use in the ambiguous front lines🗿
With the use of T-45D by Lyons Brotherhood I think the storyteller gave a good explanation with the west coast Brotherhood giving them T-45D out of their reserves as not to risk losing T-51B, I think this is supported by the Mojave chapter having T-45D in limited use. In regards to T-60B I think it was a mistake to make it a mass produced pre war model, I think a better explanation for it is that it was a pre war prototype model that the Brotherhood found the schematics for in Adams Air Force base and then mass produced it, either that or your theory that it could have been an upgrade to T-45D but I think that would only make sense as a post war upgrade by the Brotherhood. In my opinion the pre war US wouldn’t have had time to make so many new varieties of power armour, it was a new technology and so it would not make sense to keep mass producing so many different models, it just makes logistics a nightmare, having T-51B as the power armour used by front line units and the older T-45D being used on the home front or in reserve makes more sense to me. Also T-45A to C were meant to be prototypes that never saw mass production and were not actually practically useable, with the T-45A having a problem of cooking the user due to the huge amounts of heat generated, hence the protective suit that needs to be worn
I attributed the low distribution of T45 Suits in the Mojave chapter to the battle for Helios 1. It would seem likely that less experienced knights would be equipped with the less capable armor and suffered much higher casualties than T 51 equipped Paladins.
It would also explain how the NCR has only T45 salvaged armor in its inventory. They struggled to down any of the T51 equipped Brotherhood troops.
I like the power armor that is being used by the brotherhood of steel in fallout 4 because it looks cool, and like it more with the hot roader paint skem
I like how angular the plates are on some of the armors. The angular shape makes it harder for projectiles to go through it. Even shaped charges wouldn't be able to easily go through.
Although the joints are probably soft spots.
My best inference of why the T-45 is used by the East Coast “Brotherhood” is the suits were most likely National Guard/Reservist or possibly State Defense Force equipment. As for why the ECB only have it, I can only assume due to the extreme attrition due to the large number of zombies and muties in DC and the March to the former Capital. As for why the West Coast Brotherhood lacks it, I can only assume that with the relatively large stockpiles of more advanced armor, the T-45 would be relegated to second line units, or as training armor, which might explain why the NCR has such a large amount of salvaged armor, since the armor would not be in use, and thus captured intact, or the users were less skilled, and thus easier to get the armor from their corpses.
Could well be that 45 models were lost at a high attrition rate during the battle for Helios 1, leaving the surving Brotherhood with little of it left.
I’m typing this at the very beginning of the video; I was a kid I came I up with a theory pre-fallout 4, that the chest handle on T-45D was a late war addition used to drag injured soldiers away since it’s stated or at least, I’m pretty sure it was, that T-45D was taking heavier casualties leading to the development of T-51B
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After watching most of your videos, I definitely want to do another play through of Fallout now. Took a long break from Bethesda games but it’s time to jump back into the wastes
There is a unique T-45 helmet/paint job in 76 called "Father winter helmet" It is statically identical to it's regular leveled counterpart, but sports a unique model that resembles the Father winter Fasnact mask.
Surprisingly it's a rare reward from the seasonal event "Fasnact"
Thankfully the mod: Tale of Two Wastelands solves the lore question about T45d, it replaces the standard T45d power armour that BOS wear with the higher ranked soldiers wearing T51b which is pretty dope. Lots of cool lore friendly weapons added into the game too.
A thing to note about T-60 in fallout 76 is that it's the cheapest to repair when compared to T-51
Little late but I thought they use the factory at adems air base it's been a long time but I'm pretty sure they use that to build there t-60 suits makes a lot of sense to me as if that was a enclave factory building hellfire or enclave suits then it's understandable that the bos use the same factory to build T-60 models
Just wanted to say, watching your stuff got me to brush off some of my college textbooks and look at the ethics of Vault-Tec. I'm actually almost done with the presentation, and I'm hoping to record and post the video to TH-cam on an alt. account.
Have you taken into account the ethics of a company openly recruiting people into their college and how weird it is that there is no record of people in the college goi g "what this is fucked up and evil"
That’s awesome! You can promote it on my discord if you want
There actually are Two Brotherhood of Steel paintjobs exclusive to the T-51b in Fallout 76, you can get the Knight and Paladin paints as a potential reward for the event "Test Your Metal"
Just my own opinion but I feel the T-65 is a redesign of Frank Horrigan's power armor from Fallout 2. Perhaps an earlier model even. He was former Secret Service after all.
18:50 this is actually a glitch (NV things), the scrips is to spawn with “brotherhood” power armor but it only allows T51 to be added, youll actually find some paladins have T45 helmets with T51 body armor
On the Salvaged Power Armour: the weight of the armour itself is 40, and the helmet is 5 weight units. If we are to assume that this is in pounds (and from what I can find, it is), then it actually wouldn't be all that bad, and would in fact, be in line with the weight of 15th century field plate armour (in fact, it would be on the lower end of plate armour weights). So it's actually a very impressive suit all things considered, and that weight is being distributed across the entire body rather than being centralized on just the back, like what modern soldiers carry (and modern soldiers carry even more weight than that on their backs). The NCR armourers knew exactly what they were doing. And just for reference, here's the mobility of someone in full plate: th-cam.com/video/q-bnM5SuQkI/w-d-xo.html
It always struck me that the recon armor looked an awful lot like the pilot suit worn by a Glitter Boy pilot from the TTRPG Rifts.