"CITY DUMP" - The CCNY Basketball Scandal

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  • @howzyerfather
    @howzyerfather 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Carmine Lupertazzi invented point shaving.

  • @MrRyan-wu4jx
    @MrRyan-wu4jx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    In 35 years of following sports I’ve never heard of this story before. Kudos to Junius Kellog for doing the right and brave thing, after college he’d go onto serve in the military and then become a member of the Harlem Globetrotters until an accident left him paralyzed. He coached paralympic basketball teams to gold medals, and worked tirelessly in support of disabled veterans, received an honorary doctorate of law from manhattan college, and was inducted to the wheelchair basketball and Virginia sports hall of fame. A great man who I was happy to learn of today.

  • @WildwoodClaire1
    @WildwoodClaire1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    There's a new, excellent book by Matthew Goodman about CCNY and the point-shaving scandal. The title of the book is "The City Game: Triumph, Scandal, and a Legendary Basketball Team." It focuses particularly on the lives of players and lifelong friends Eddie Roman, Ed Warner, and Floyd Layne. There's also a great deal of interesting backstory about the investigations into point-shaving and how New York politics played a role in determining who was, and who WASN'T, targeted for investigation.

    • @lakers0910111
      @lakers0910111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just finished it was terrific

    • @WildwoodClaire1
      @WildwoodClaire1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lakers0910111 A bit of unwritten history: the deemphasis on basketball in NY, and maybe some unresolved questions about St. Johns players' involvement in point-shaving and favorable treatment by investigators, coach Frank Maguire may have found it convenient to leave St. Johns for the University of North Carolina, thus spawning the historic rise of Tar Heels basketball. The five starters for UNC in their championship year of 1957 were all New Yorkers who would most likely have stayed in NY if the point-shaving scandal had not been exposed.

    • @orbyfan
      @orbyfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's good to know; I like this documentary, but I wish it had talked about what happened to the players in later life rather than how people like Maury Allen were tarnished by the scandal.

    • @rewing84
      @rewing84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orbyfan valid point

  • @williamhild1793
    @williamhild1793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A wonderful documentary Thank you for providing this.

  • @marclaporte3710
    @marclaporte3710 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Uncle Junior bought himself a new Cadillac Fleetwood

    • @kentuky1233
      @kentuky1233 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Overrated show

    • @YoungOddo
      @YoungOddo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kentuky1233Wow

  • @tedmichaels1951
    @tedmichaels1951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Went to CCNY many years later where I met Bobby Sands. He taught basketball and was so knowledgeable and kind.

  • @rewing84
    @rewing84 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for posting this bruce

  • @normanlinden5786
    @normanlinden5786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In those years the N.I.T. was as big, and some say bigger, than the NCAA Tourney.

    • @Sephiroth766
      @Sephiroth766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was bigger, by the 50's or 60's the NCAA Tourney surpassed it

    • @normanlinden5786
      @normanlinden5786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True.

    • @dalelambdin208
      @dalelambdin208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes NIT was the big tourney

    • @ooammo632
      @ooammo632 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      only cuz it was @ the Garden

  • @viriatus7181
    @viriatus7181 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The saddest thing about this story is that a few of these players could have been impactful in Pro Basketball at the time.

  • @e-rab_malibu34
    @e-rab_malibu34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They beat an Adolph Rupp led Kentucky team by pretty much 40 points? Wowwww

    • @user-sd4jt4sw9x
      @user-sd4jt4sw9x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cats had their own point shaving game going on at that time.

  • @marklockettsr.8175
    @marklockettsr.8175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who is playing the jazz music? That sax is chilling

  • @cliffordnewell2445
    @cliffordnewell2445 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A great documentary about the saddest event in basketball history.

  • @scottsharp1763
    @scottsharp1763 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great upload, thank U. wonderful to watch such grace, use of both hands & backboard, ur teammates, david vs Goliath today’s players might bee better athletes “might” butden they are NOT better at BASKETBALL.
    Today’s game is impossible to watch because it isn’t basketball in any era!?

  • @classichost
    @classichost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Someone needs to do a documentary on the point shaving scandal that occurred at NC State back in the late 50's which spread to other ACC schools and which led to the end of one of the great holiday tournaments in the Dixie Classic

    • @normanlinden5786
      @normanlinden5786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That scandal is somewhat forgotten, and a number of UNC players were involved as well.

  • @bernardfradkin5712
    @bernardfradkin5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bernard Fradkin I went to PSAL HS Basketball Players with some of them that were involved in CCNY Point Sharing and why blame only the admin lowered the avg from 90 to 70 to get them in and yet nothing happened to them

  • @jakubwidlarz
    @jakubwidlarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. So funny and surreal to see a 6-foot 'keyring' paint.
    2. This was Marty Glickman's last TV appearance before his death.

  • @PeteMcCorvey
    @PeteMcCorvey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What I hate is that John Thompson of Georgetown got accused of racism, by saying that he wasn't going to back down when his team was going get into a fight and wasn't going to tone down who he was because he was a big black man, but Adolf Rupp openly admitted that he would never recruit a black player and history seems to forget that...smh.

    • @jakubwidlarz
      @jakubwidlarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And UK's arena is named after him...

    • @anthonyburns8563
      @anthonyburns8563 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got a link to that?

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re clueless if you think history forgets rupp’s racism! The UTEP game is always brought up and rupp’s racism is always mentioned.

    • @aaronrider4051
      @aaronrider4051 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rupp was a successful coach in a region where segregation was legally enforced. That is, he had no choice early in his career. When he DID have a choice (after segregation ended), he began recruiting some black players.
      When Rupp was a high school coach in Illinois, he had some black players on his team.
      The idea that Rupp was some super racism is a bunch of detritus, and it's awfully rich how these elderly boys from CCNY like to spread these stories about UK's supposed sins when they're the ones who got involved with the mob.
      And, no, I'm not remotely a UK fan.

    • @leroygardner2034
      @leroygardner2034 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronrider4051 If you think that this WS dog wasn't a staunch racist you must be SICK!! This dog could never live down what happened to his kkk ASS in Maryland. I watch that film Atleast once a week. Go watch that game some more Rupp lover.

  • @rjeffers3726
    @rjeffers3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New York Fascinates me. My neighbor is an acre away andy rent is 800

  • @orbyfan
    @orbyfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jackie Mason can be found in the strangest places--here he's at 30:18.

  • @tworthington27
    @tworthington27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who's the woman that appears on the thumbnail for the movie on Hulu?

  • @princepill
    @princepill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best documentaries I seen in a long time. I was born in 1981 and always heard about this, and as a college basketball fan since 1993 I always wondered why NYC was never in the midst of college basketball greatness and now I see why. A part of me is saying good for them for getting caught but another part feel bad for them. These young players did a stupid thing, but we all have at their age. Its just sad that they had to live with this stain for the rest of their lives. God rest their souls

  • @markbrodie2784
    @markbrodie2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just a fabulous documentary...they were poor city kids unlike today's spoiled college athletes...it was a tragedy they lost everything for being young and dumb like we all were.

  • @JumpShotsOverGunShots
    @JumpShotsOverGunShots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maury Allen sounds ridiculous . .

  • @johnathan7249
    @johnathan7249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome documentary! Only solidifies that in this day and age, and the past 30 or 40 years, should have, and should pay the players. I remember watching the Men's Basketball Championship game a few years ago, and one of the announcers said the budget for the NCAA was $775,000.000 dollars. Do they believe that we fans think college sports is legit? The hypocrisy makes these games today, and the past 30-40 years, at times, laughable. We are not this stupid! The NCAA, the body of college sports, is stupid! Bosworth was right: NCAA, National Communist Against Athletes!

  • @zacharyalmond1189
    @zacharyalmond1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maury Allen was a walking bucket.

  • @allinfun829
    @allinfun829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played competitive sports in school and there is no possible way I could go out and do what these kids did. No way. You play hard every single second. There is no way I'm letting up no matter the money. Now if they want to offer me money to play better maybe. If I'm hurtin for money. I can't say that would be tough.

  • @JumpShotsOverGunShots
    @JumpShotsOverGunShots 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I leave a comment it gets deleted

    • @warplanner8852
      @warplanner8852 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't leave a comment then!
      😂

  • @bernardfradkin5712
    @bernardfradkin5712 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    went to De Witt Clinton HS and saw Ed Warner play for us and he was terrific and watched Ed Roman play for Taft all from Bronx and Floyd Lane saw him play basketball at Haaram HS all great stars and from Bklym Lincon HS onto CCNY Bernard Fradkin Clinton 50

  • @grzlbr
    @grzlbr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I call BS on the race card nonsense17:55