How's she goin'? What a nice add for the drill press. I always struggle with finding the center especially when drilling round stock. This would be a great solution to that problem. Thanks for sharing. Take care!!!
Thanks... yeah, so far I like it. I added the square column and x y table to the drill press. It very accurate... maybe within + or - .003" Not sure about the self centering yet. I have not tried various sizes yet.
I need to make a follow up video. I've had some problems with getting the vise to hold things secure. I like the vise otherwise. Hopefully the larger vise will hold better. Apologies in advance if it doesn't work well. Thanks for watching and please comment after you get the vise.
The only problem I have with it is clamping power. It's not as good as I had hoped. Having both jaws move at once is the same as cutting the TPI in half. Example: 5 TPI on a vise doesn't clamp as well as 10 TPI
When I have to cross drill round stock, I lay a 6" machinists scale across the stock and bring the bit's point into contact with the scale. When it's adequately centered the scale will be level.
In a similar use of the same technique the centre height of a lathe tool can also be found quite accurately with a steel rule/scale. A simple but really useful trick to know.
I have never understood why somebody doesn't sell a drill press with a dovetailed column. Grizzly sells two industrial drill presses with mill tables and a ROUND column!?!?! What on earth were they thinking? I know the dovetails add cost but I'd spend a but more for this and I'm sure others would too. I have a 1920 camel back drill press and it has a dovetailed column! We lost out way.
One thing this vise has is SPEED. With some loss of accuracy it sets up very fast, time and again in the centre of the stock. It saves you big time on indicating over and over again. So if a few thou accuracy is good enough for the job this is a winner
@@tonycstech - Yeah... I'm guessing it isn't great. I haven't tested it to see how accurate it is. The biggest problem I have with it is clamping force. With both jaws moving it halves the thread pitch. I'm not sure what it is but lets say it's 10 TPI. That means it's like a vise with a 5 TPI screw.
Try using something round and larger than the vertical v groove on the vice jaws so that you have to open the jaws a bit to get it to fit. That may be more accurate? Thanks for posting, I think I might ask Santa for one of these.
Adding a tapped hole for an end-stop will take this to the next level: you can hold large stock, drill it, chuck a smaller piece up at the end stop, drill it and have two parts to bolt/rivet/pin together on centre without having to measure anything.
You might center it more accurately by clamping the round bar into the centering vise and chucking it by the bar into the chuck and then lowering it into the jaws of the main vise.
Actually this vice is a good concept however due to the fact that both jaws work at once you end up with half the pressure. The thread pitch should have been a much finer thread. This would have increased the clamping pressure in relation to torque on the handle.
The chuck didn't move I just put in in there because it was easier than finding a flat place for a magnet. I think when I did the large vise I had it stuck to the square column
Pretty nice little vice and setup.
I like it so far, thanks
Very handy vice to have, good setup..
Thanks Matty, I think so too.
How's she goin'? What a nice add for the drill press. I always struggle with finding the center especially when drilling round stock. This would be a great solution to that problem. Thanks for sharing. Take care!!!
Thanks... yeah, so far I like it. I added the square column and x y table to the drill press. It very accurate... maybe within + or - .003" Not sure about the self centering yet. I have not tried various sizes yet.
You're right, too cool!!!
I suspect I will be using this a lot.
Absolutely love the tips on this channel
Thanks!
Thanks from the UK, for pointing this out. I bought 4" wide Jaws model off Ebay. Cost approx. £70. Can't wait to get it. Many thanks. Love your videos
I need to make a follow up video. I've had some problems with getting the vise to hold things secure. I like the vise otherwise. Hopefully the larger vise will hold better. Apologies in advance if it doesn't work well. Thanks for watching and please comment after you get the vise.
Thanks for sharing! Looks like a neat little vice.
Will be looking for your follow up. I know the effort it takes to produce videos.
The only problem I have with it is clamping power. It's not as good as I had hoped. Having both jaws move at once is the same as cutting the TPI in half. Example: 5 TPI on a vise doesn't clamp as well as 10 TPI
Thank you for sharing. Yes, $31.00, good price, going to get myself one. Thanks.
I think it's a good price too. Thanks for watching!
Nice little vice Mark !! I like it..
I agree... It's not extreme quality but very usable for most things.
Looks like good setup.. Decent looking quality for the price 👍👍
Good for most drilling in a drill press I'm sure.
When I have to cross drill round stock, I lay a 6" machinists scale across the stock and bring the bit's point into contact with the scale. When it's adequately centered the scale will be level.
In a similar use of the same technique the centre height of a lathe tool can also be found quite accurately with a steel rule/scale. A simple but really useful trick to know.
I do the same
Yes... I do the same in the lathe as well
That's a nice set-up there.
The square column and X Y table on the drill press is absolutely a huge plus. The addition of the self centering vice is icing on the cake :o)
I have never understood why somebody doesn't sell a drill press with a dovetailed column. Grizzly sells two industrial drill presses with mill tables and a ROUND column!?!?! What on earth were they thinking? I know the dovetails add cost but I'd spend a but more for this and I'm sure others would too. I have a 1920 camel back drill press and it has a dovetailed column! We lost out way.
One thing this vise has is SPEED. With some loss of accuracy it sets up very fast, time and again in the centre of the stock. It saves you big time on indicating over and over again. So if a few thou accuracy is good enough for the job this is a winner
Good assessment and I agree!
How few, 2 ?
@@tonycstech - Yeah... I'm guessing it isn't great. I haven't tested it to see how accurate it is. The biggest problem I have with it is clamping force. With both jaws moving it halves the thread pitch. I'm not sure what it is but lets say it's 10 TPI. That means it's like a vise with a 5 TPI screw.
Try using something round and larger than the vertical v groove on the vice jaws so that you have to open the jaws a bit to get it to fit. That may be more accurate? Thanks for posting, I think I might ask Santa for one of these.
I'd say you are right but the 3/8" rod was looked very close to center.
Adding a tapped hole for an end-stop will take this to the next level: you can hold large stock, drill it, chuck a smaller piece up at the end stop, drill it and have two parts to bolt/rivet/pin together on centre without having to measure anything.
I did that to my mill vise. For repeat holes this would be a great idea.
Put an edge finder in the drill chuck to find the exact center of the work piece
Both jaws move.
Great video winky, keep'um coming.
Thanks, this is a cool vise.
You might center it more accurately by clamping the round bar into the centering vise and chucking it by the bar into the chuck and then lowering it into the jaws of the main vise.
That may be true. Good idea.
Very handy.
I agree
Do you still use this vise? Would it be better to have it an inch larger? It is still available on our Canadian Amazon in both versions.
Actually this vice is a good concept however due to the fact that both jaws work at once you end up with half the pressure. The thread pitch should have been a much finer thread. This would have increased the clamping pressure in relation to torque on the handle.
@@WinkysWorkshop thanks very much for the info
@@green122s You're welcome
With all the other stuff you make, I'm surprised you didn't make your own vice.
Ha... thanks!
too cool
Agree! Thanks
You had your indicator in the chuck, you could have just trammed the square stock using the Y axis movement.
The chuck didn't move I just put in in there because it was easier than finding a flat place for a magnet. I think when I did the large vise I had it stuck to the square column
Nicely done, as always!
Thanks, I think this vise is going to be handy