Meaning of Life: Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning
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- 1) A Philosopher's View of Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning. I explore his 3 meanings of life and other themes.
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Frankl is the sacrifice who plunged into hell to bring us light on who we are!
I’m lucky to get these lessons at no cost where others have paid with life!
Freud - Will to Pleasure
Nietzche - Will To Power
Frankl - Will to find Meaning
Accurate summarization of these three notable minds.
Damo Revo , what utter rubbish. Time will teach you whether altruism is a waste of time. This is nothing but second hand verbiage borrowed from Nietzsche, Rand and other misguided misanthrope. I pity you for what will befall you.
@@atiphwyne5609 oh lord, a random guy from the Internetz with his Shakespearean language making wild assumptions of the semantics of what I wrote.
.. And " only time will tell" he says as if to prove his point.
Crawl back into your mom's basement ya geebag.
No doubt that you fit the adage that man is an animal. There is some irony that you mention the Lord. If you don't believe in altruism why mention God who instructs us to be our brother's keeper care for others as a means of serving him etc. Was it just a slip of the tongue like all of the rest of your pretentious text. Inhere indeed in- here in your stupid empty second hand immature brain is the problem.
One day undoubtedly the course of your miserable life you will be in need of help from someone then if these imbecilic words of yours are not a pose they will come back to haunt you. As you do unto others so shall it be done to you. Let's take from the other great contributor to the Englush language. I am not a soothsayer I am a truth sayer. Don't be frightened just wait and see.
Better still repent from this arrant nonsense and act like a responsible human being.
Even more remarkable that a man of your age is spouting nonsense like this.( altruism is a waste of time and energy!). You should be ashamed of yourself. It is obvious you are suffering from some senility too you mentioned the Lord at the start of your text. It is pretty clear that you were not referring to the nobility but rather the title given to God or if you happen to be a Christian Jesus Christ. Now to the substance or rather lack thereof in your text. I have heard this garbage ad nauseam, religion is a social construct a coping mechanism, myth legend etc. I want to know if you have a better explanation than ad hominem attacks or expletives to the existence of this universe it's astonishing order and precision. Look at the heavens above the planet's follow a predetermined course from which they don't make the slightest deviation. Similarly from the minute whirling electron to the mighty nebulae they operate by laws discovered by physics only recently set by God aeons ago. In man his birth, growth and life are regulated by a set of biological laws. Do you seriously wish me to believe that this is all by chance. If you set a million monkeys to work on a million typewriters for a million years are they going to come up with the complete or even partial
works of Shakespeare or Goethe or Al Khawarisme? Of course not so why expect any right thinking person to accept this vast universe and the human being to have appeared by chance. In the Holy Quran it says in a famous ayah ( verse) : And We created nothing finer than reason). In fact it exhorts the human being to think honestly about the facts of his existence to a time when he was not to a time when he will die and be brought to account for how he lived his life on this earth. If your God is Bertrand then again I pity you a sad miserable man who was promiscuous and according to his son overweening and harsh. No wonder you decry altruism with that misery as your role model.
As far as self deception and gullibility being two black holes that human beings are sucked into I agree. Perhaps you should truly ask yourself am I not prey to the maladies I have described? I really do hope that you take stock and revise your philosophies because it is not too late to turn back and after all your true nature is to acknowledge the one true God/Lord. It is up to you. May God guide you .
Frankl’s teachings helped save my life. He is a true hero. Thank you for sharing his work.
Thanks for sharing, I purchased this book at a used book store for $1.50 what a great read! The meaning of life for me is to “ be kind to the kind & to be kind to the unkind “ & to serve and help others with love. Namaste
Your videos are grand. Thanks for sharing. I hope you keep putting them out!
A wonderful, comprehensive summary of the book. Thank you for this. I don't think I've commented on a TH-cam video in years. Please keep what you're doing.
Another brilliant video! This channel is like a hidden gold mine.
A very practical and hopeful philosophy. I've always loved Frankl's book and have read it many times. Thank you for your succinct and clear presentation!
I watched many videos on people trying to break down this book...I like your version...your pace and voice (so soothing) played a huge part...thank you
Respect to this profound wisdom - what greater test than that undergone by Viktor Frankl himself - so he did not fall into hatred and seek revenge, or become manically greedy, say, after experiencing starvation and disempowerment... so beautiful and inspirational and a great testament to the goodness of his parents who nurtured his consciousness in childhood.
Just finished reading this book. The connection of state of mind with state of immunity explained in the book is amazing. Good read.
Thank you for making this video. I've read the book Mans Search for Meaning multiple times, and each time I learn something new. Your breakdown of the philosophy helped me understand and question even more about what meaning can be. Good job!
Thank you U Tube for bringing us Philosophy in its most digestible format.
For bringing it to us at all !!!
The explanation of the theme help us know that when we are suffering, we don't need to seek pleasure in order for us to gain back what we had loss from our suffering but to follow our conscience alone. I'm glad I bought the book because it teaches us alot about Viktor Frankl and how he manage to control his despair for life and used a psychological treatment know as logo therapy to help anyone who has been in the same position of consciousness.
Thank you. 👍 Love your thoughtful explanation and probabing questions.
Thank you for presenting Viktor Frankl's book on this platform. I read it 30 years ago after a spiritual experience, where I learned that surrendering to a higher power creates unimaginable peace of mind. That peace of mind allows me to see the beauty in people and nature, which I believe is the meaning of life for me.....along with the pursuit of freedom and justice for all living things. I look forward to listening to your past and future presentations.
Thank you for your videos, I enjoy them a lot and also develop my thinking with their help!
Thank you for this lesson - this is awesome!
Thank you for making this video, the content is indeed intersting
Your voice is also very smooth, calm, i love it
Thank you so much for this excellent introduction to Frankl.
Thank you. Enjoyed this overview. God bless you!
One of the best book I have ever read, I carry the wisdom of that beautiful man in my heart always,thanks for your truly love for his book,your explanation is perfect.glad I found you.
Awesome! Wonderful presentation. Thank you for creating!
This is really excellent content and I appreciate the video.
I read the book of Frankel and found it deep and beautiful.
I always try to find meaning in life by being an observer and observe myself trying to find meaning.
This is a good explanation
You are finally back! Your videos were my first introduction in ethics and philosophy in general and I have been reading a lot on philosophy since I discovered your videos about 1-2 years ago. Thank you very much for that!
Thanks, Sajanth. I am happy to hear that. Enjoy your exploration of philosophy. :) I slowed down the video making as I have other projects nowadays.
Thanks for this great explanation..
Thanks, that was excellent and very inspiring
This was very interesting and helpful. Thanks for sharing.
I think Frankl is a theist existentialist, in the sense that he accepts the literal meaning in life through actions and experiences, and also accepts possibility of a trascendental meaning. Atheist existentialists would include Cioran, Sartre and Camus, who saw no real meaning in life, or thought that you created your own meaning. Frankl didn't believed that you created your meaning, but that you discovered it. That is why I would put Frankl in the line of Tolstoy, Kierkegaard, Dostoyevski and Chestov. It could be called trascendental existencialitsm.
Bread! That was amazing!
Happy to listen to Daniel Schobuch on the Logo therapy. Very good. Also it is a great honor and privilege to listen to the author himself in an interview. His equation D = S-M. Is so good. His explanation of the space between the Stimulus and Response is remarkable. Finally what matters most is the attitude. Highly valued person to say this because of his 4 years experience in the concentration camp. Thank you.
That space between stimulus and response is where our power is.
Universal sense of life is self improvement, development, love, experiencing life itself in all areas of life (in healthy way because hedonism will destroy you), seeking fulfilment in process of life, spreading good and love, helping each other and list goes on. Personal sense of life is unique to every person and you need to find that. Kinda what you can do for humankind, yourself, "what you can bring to the table?"
Your voice is loving
Thank you for this lecture
Richard Burton would have been perfect.
Thanks for this video
Thank you for an excellent overview of Victor Frankl's book. Is excellent.
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Great analysis
Thank you for this amazing lesson. I found you today, on Good Friday, and these hard times. What a beautiful way to spend this Day in reflexion, with passages from Viktor Frankl. 🙏🏼I read them when I most needed him 1994, when my husband dissapeared and was never found. He had depression.
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Excellent contents, very good work, 👍
Just re read the book. This is a good discussion of the concepts by Frankl
Excelent class!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent introduction to this most admirable, respectable book of human philosophy and wisdom.
Except it was all a lie. He spent 3 days in Auswitsch. The majority of the book is fabricated.
@@dennis1662 have you read the book? "We had to wear the same shirts for half a year, until they had lost all appearance of being shirts." - this quote is from the 30 something pages devoted to Auswitsch. He was only there for 3 days max.
Paul wrote "If a man has not love, he is only a noisy gong or clanging symbol." (1 Corinthians 13).
I'vev met many Christians who claimed to love God, but have no love for other peoole.
well spoken
Each day remind yourself you are free.
My response to that statement is that from my dualistic mind's perspective, this is true. However, from a more nondualistic point of view, it isn't. I find solace in the faith that I am a part of an eternal whole, but by that measure, my life is totally determined. However, my freedom arises in the dualistic world of subject and object.
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What a great video... how to find meaning in suffering?..now there's a trick
when one cannot run away suffering...then one can hear its message.. and if the message is heard the suffering goes away..if its not then it stays
@teachphilosophy, Thank you so much for sharing the fruits of your study, contemplation, and erudition. My question re your "ultimate meaning" cup analogy: This example presupposes a creator that imbues the cups with purpose. But what if the creator is evolution, and life itself is the meaning? In other words, if the cups' creator is not a "mind," but a "process?" As Joseph Campbell said "“Life is without meaning. You bring the meaning to it. The meaning of life is whatever you ascribe it to be. Being alive is the meaning."
Thank you
I really liked this video and plan to read the book soon.
As with Buddhism and Stoicism, Frankl seems to focus on what is most important here and now.
How can we improve ourselves, help others, and enrich our lives today?
As opposed to dealing with speculative questions about the ultimate purpose of the universe
or whether there is an afterlife.
I liked best this quote: "Mental health and growth is based on a tension between what one is and what one ought to become."
A certain amount of tension is essential to achieving anything that is worthwhile. Sometimes the tension is anxiety and stress, which none of us like, but living through and dealing with the anxiety makes us stronger and adds meaning to our lives.
Thanks for the Video.
Curly Howard Frankl is getting us to pick up our Crosses. Like Christ. He’s a messianic Jew x
hi. nice summary. thx
im looking for a source for theme 2. it is true that frankl talks about freedom of will but i cannot find this quote about the space between stimulus and response.
Good summary
It would be nice if we could just say "no explanation needed". Being free or not creates so much insecurity at least in my own experience. I suppose I shouldn't worry about my circumstances since I can't control them but that takes us back to wether I can choose.
No one can stop you from transcending your circumstances no matter if they take everything from you, even your life. If you truly love someone, I think you truly know them.
seek meaning and all else follows. . . not as ends in themselves. . .
I would say that the whole video can be characterized as a philosophical device to help you cope.
It is easy to philosophise on things like "meaning" and "purpose". Those are abstract concepts that do not exist in real world, but are solely there to help our minds navigate and relate to the world.
Note on the purpose of cups example: does it matter to cups what was your reason for creating them. There is a true purpose behind creation of those cups, but to cups themselves that purpose is indistinguishable from a false purpose.
Hi Mirza, I agree. If cups were conscious and free, they could choose whatever purpose they want. For example, one cup may say, "I will not be drank from, my purpose is to become an elephant or telephone or to sit here an be aware." That is, I agree that even if they were made with a purpose, they may not know it and don't have to choose that purpose.
teachphilosophy I would also say that the purpose of the cup is not the property of the cup, but property of your mind. Purpose of an object is not a label that is attached to an object and that follows it everywhere.
Good point. So I would have to ask the creator of the cup why he made it if I wanted to know what the purpose of the cup is in the sense of "what was it originally made for?" I can't know it empirically/scientifically.
Some would object and say, "if a genetic engineer made acorns with the purpose of becoming oak trees, then we can see the "purpose" of an acorn by observing it's "path of development." Can we discern the purpose of acorns in the sense of what they are moving towards (telos) when they are fulfilling their nature? Is this an idea of purpose that is not simply in the mind?
teachphilosophy I would say that in your example of acorn, the purpose of acorn would depend on the existence of the engineer and would not exist outside the head of engineer.
For example, an engineer could put a round boulder on top of the hill for the purpose of rolling it down the hill to dislodge another boulder.
Alternatively, on a distant planet that nobody will ever visit, a round boulder on a hill could be created by chance, roll down and dislodge another boulder. There is clearly no purpose to this event.
teachphilosophy Another point on purpose: Purpose of an object is very useful to predict what will happen next. While a rock and a chair are both inanimate objects, knowing that chair's purpose is to sit in, allows you to predict that someone will sit there and you can then place whoopie cushion in it.
The purpose is still just an arrangement of chemicals and electrons in your head, but it allows your to navigate material world.
Anyone who listens to this who has only couple fibers of compassion should do everything to stop any war, maybe stop production of weapons, killing animal...dr Frankie’s accounts r tortorously disgusting to listen to & yet incredibly inspiring..rip good soul
I think the idea of ensuing success is bit inconsistent with stoical principle of what you can control and not control. Since success is not our under control how we ensue then? Pursue what you can’t control ensue what you can control.
I might be wrong.
I just watched this as I try to figure out how to travel to Florida from NY to see my older brother who is dying. "Love transcends great distances, even death."
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I hope you was able to see your brother ! A inspirational true movie about a old man in Iowa I believe, that was poor loaded up his riding lawn mower with a trailer and drove two or three hundred miles to see his brother that was dying, I wish I remember the name of it. It's worth watching.
Hi @teachphilosophy.
Thank you for the great videos.
I have a question...
When you say "If you think you need a person to be happy, how does your relation to that person change? Are you truly capable of seeing them and loving them if you need them to be happy?"
Q? Do you mean:
- If I think I need a person for me to be happy; or
- If I think I need that other person to be happy?
Many thanks
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I am not sure. :) You would have to explain the difference to me. That question (that I asked) is derived from Anthony De Mello's Way of Love, who -like many mystics and eastern thinkers- see love as a type of awareness, not a state of desire or lack. Love is a way of seeing according to this view
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If I say "I need a person to be happy."
That could mean either:
1). For ME to be happy I NEED a person - whatever needing a person means; or
2). For THE PERSON to be happy - whoever that person is.
Both are ME needing, but the person who ends up happy is different in each case.
Make any more sense? lol :O)
ah, yes, I think I got it. When I said that, I was thinking of 1... but I need to think more on 2. :) I think of 1 because sometimes in my life I thought, "Oh, I couldn't exist or have meaning if that person rejected me or died or..." This sort of mindset, in my personal exp, seems to produce more clinging than love.
Thank you :O)
Yes, you have it! lol
I think you would find Andrew Austin's Metaphors of Movement work interesting, as he deals with Relationships, Attachments, Emotional Injury etc. through the metaphoric landscape.
I don`t remember who said it, it was an Asian man, he said, one can search his whole life for the perfect flower and, it wouldn`t be a wasted life. You can tell a child they are loved over an over but, if they don`t feel loved, in their eyes their not loved.
Hi Paul! Is faith something to be determined by feeling? Can this be justified by giving examples of other things we do without any regard for evidence? Reading The Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy, they asked the same question and came to my mind was your comments about critical thinking and how an answer like Kierkegaard's could be seen as just shutting down. What do you think? Kierkegaard was very intelligent and used the biblical story of Abraham and his son Issac in a very poetic and tragic way. Is his theology more art than philosophy or theology even. Id love to hear what you have to say!
Hi Jonathan, Yes, based on what I understand of Kierkegaard's argument, he portrays the choice (of way of life) as entirely arbitrary. Reason is shut down because there is no rational answer. However, I believe one can transcend reason (or find nonrational ways of knowing any particular claim like introspectively knowing "I exist.") and not shut reason completely down. There may be some truths that are 3D where reason is 1D. To know (or rather experience such truths), one must immerse self in myth, symbol, music, art, and Nature without reducing it (completely) to a formula that can be understood. So, I believe some truths must be experienced and lived from; they cannot be rationally and objectively understood in a reductionist way.
We are put on this physical plane for a brief moment to accumulate light and warmth by "appreciating" (loving) the beauty of this paradise planet lifeboat and the miraculous works of fine art called "life" that inhabit it. So that we can become a bundle of light and warmth called a star floating in heaven (joy and beauty) after we drop the clothing of this physical plane.
If we worship ignorance (greed) to depreciate life in order to fabricate "entitlement" to suck the joy out of life , we become the darkness and emptiness that surrounds the stars.
If one abandons the prison of lifeless numbers, ones experience on this physical plane becomes a metaphysical, magical, mystical experience filled with joy, beauty, harmony and meaning.
The super natural, super magic called love transforms misery, ugliness and conflict into joy, beauty and harmony. It turns this march into a dance. And water into wine.
So what his three methods to find the meaning to life
I would have liked to hear discussion 8
Do you think Hobbes has any connection?
Never read and do not plan to read Frankl 📙! At first no money, second no Austerlitz even at 🇷🇺 now days, at least, imho. Nevertheless the lecture was overall excellent and I wish the author consequence of his work on a happier life being. TX. Gr8 lecture indeed. Still interesting even 5 years after... What else needs to a proof that it was done really Gr8?
Is it that WE are to believe that all people are useful or that WE, know matter how horrible the circumstance, can find meaning?
The poem that wrote its self through me just as Viktor suggested. This is at 17:55 on the video and happened on a retreat after 5 years of psychospiritual psychology training.
WHEN SPIRIT BREAKS THROUGH THE MADNESS.
I walked along a grassy track, contained on either side, by walls that held & guided me, towards my own way back.
I thought there was an opening, at the other end, that would take me to a garden, just around the bend.
I arrived to find no opening, just an old & disused gate, run down & capped with thornbush, was this to be my fate.
I checked in desperation to see if I was right, & saw the thorns were placed there, to guard this thresholds rite.
Beyond it grew some brambles, both wild & uninviting, with a gap that I could manage, if I could take the fighting.
If I battled with the thorn bush, then headed for the gap, then maybe I could make it, to this other track.
Beyond this lay some barren land, that hadn’t seen much use, & the road of little traffic offered no excuse.
This barren space of lostness reminded me of me, I looked around to find a seat, in the shelter of a tree.
No place of rest was offered, & I struggled what to do, to flee this place of awkwardness, or just invite a clue.
A seat appeared within a wall, it had been there all along, it called to me to rest a while, for it knew to leave was wrong.
When I reached this pause in writing, I reflected ‘this was great’, these words would touch my colleges, & they’d want to be my mate.
Then came the ‘NO’ to consciousness, with sudden lightning speed, I will not let this happen, steel this beauty for you need.
This isn’t of your making, & it isn’t yours to take, if you tried they’d see right through you, they’d see you for a fake.
‘HA’ ‘HA’ yelled out this voice inside, I think I win again, you think that your so big & smart, I know that you're just vain.
You think you’re wise & wonderful, that you can change the world, ‘YOU CLOWN’ I sometimes laugh at you, your mind all warped & curled.
You had no chance to start with, for it was always me, you fool you just don’t get it, that you is really me.
But ‘I’ could feel its panic, & hear fear within its voice, its challenge almost over, its fight without a choice.
One tear sneaks up from within my heart & drips upon my arm, it primes the wick for others, though there seems like no alarm.
As tears flood from my very soul, & my heart now rives in pain, I am the soul that longs to know its Self, & feel alive again.
This pain that feels like more than mine, so old & without end, feels seen for just a moment, & then its gone again.
For it knows I can only take so much, & it regulates my pain, then with great big breath it lets me go, to return to the world again.
By Billy Grant: Retreat weekend July 2010
This poem was downloaded/written live at the moment that it was happening to me. We were on our very last Psychosynthesis training weekend & the training was held at Debden House in London. The scene described at the start of the poem can be found beside the house.
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Theme 1: But, surely, Frankl, there must be some reason -- otherwise you have only an assertion
I’ve read the book. It’s one that all should read. However, I disagree with the idea that every person has the capacity to decide for themselves how they’ll react to various situations in life. For various reasons, some people are much more capable of doing this than others. Can people grow into becoming more able to exercise free will at all times? I’m skeptical that that’s the case. Certainly, some will have to work at it more than others. I believe that Dr. Frankel, either by nature or due to his psychiatric training, was more capable of it than others. I also think he overestimated the ability of all people to get to that state. We can but try; but for some, it takes many years of hard work. For others, it’s simply not something they’ll achieve. And I think that Frankel should have allowed for that in his thinking.
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Thanks.
There is no such thing as a meaningless life, yet there many lives that have never come to terms with their meaningfulness !
I can only find value in serving the Lord. That includes caring. The eternal Maker is what matters. If I matter to Him, then I matter. Yes people will let you down, but my hope is in Him and not in someone else nor in me but in Him. If someone loves me, then often I love that someone back and I feel worth, fulfillment. But it is hard to feel valuable when no one cares and I must care for someone even though that someone doesn't care for me. That is not easy when my own cup is empty because I am a frail mortal human being and can find myself not feeling valuable. Only in the Lord do I matter. Outside of Him life is meaningless. I agree we should not find our worth based upon one's work, even though most people value you for utilitarian reasons. I pray that one day I will find that my life mattered. I think Jesus said what matters when He said, "And this is eternal life that they may know You the only true God and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." (John 17:3). God is a relational Being. Since we are made in His image we need to have meaningful relationships with Him and with others. But that can be hard for me to find.
Amen.
To be free and experience it.
You can't do that on someone else's PRIVATE CURRENCY of you to be taxed regulated and dictated to for LIFE. You need authority over your TIME for that.
How would one be able to find meaning in a death camp situation if someone you loved or children were being tortured or pain was being inflicted upon them?
Angir, it's a good question. It reminds me of Sisyphus too, can one really find meaning in rolling a stone up and down a hill forever? Are we deluding ourselves?
Frankel's conception of meaning through suffering, reminds me of Zapffe's sublimation as one of the coping mechanisms.
Thanks, but I went to link and there's nothing about this transcript.
Alfred, thanks. here is the link again; it's under the ethics course at lucidphilosophy.com lucidphilosophy.com/frankls-mans-search-meaning/
If only the world would invest just a little time in listening to Frankl´s views on the world perhaps there would be less suffering and more clearsight for the individual. We already have seen what the nazi´s did with Nietzsche´s thoughts and what that can lead to. What´s basically wrong with Freud´s and Nietzsche´s views and thoughts is that it allows all the dark sides of human nature to blossom to a level that is destructible. Frankl´s views at least question the meaning about things. I find his thoughts more optimistic than the other two philosopers because his views are at least based upon the premise that human nature is fundamentally good.
20:37 I don't think so. I can be present with myself, loving myself and still not be happy. If you are living in wrong place, wrong people, not in alignment with your personal truth and moral codex, soul mission, have some internal conflict, not pursuing your life goals and ambitions etc. then you gonna feel like shit and be really not happy. No amount of love, pleasure etc. gonna make that tolerable because basically that's like being traitor to yourself and your soul mission. Until you accept all these conditions and start working on your life nothing gonna change. Work on your life, do self improvement, heal yourself, get out of that mental basement and computer 24/7. Presence is important to being conscious of your place in life but this is not a magic pill to resolve all your life dissatisfaction.
Here because Jordan Peterson recommended this book ❤🎉
Thank you for visiting. I will be producing many more videos in the next three months. Jordan Peterson is intelligent and I have learned much from him, especially about the intersection between psychology and philosophy and his thoughts on Dostoevsky and Jung.
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And from within her prison walls
She was able to create
Images so powerful
Enough to deny Her own Nothingness..
La Raision d’Etre
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🍞🕊🦢🦜🦚🦋🪲🧚♂️💜🧡💛and from within her prison walls, she was able to create Images, so powerful….enough to deny her own nothingness
Theme one of Frankl sounds like a page out of C.S. Lewis' book, "God in the Dock," to wit:
"If you think of this world as a place intended simply for our happiness, you find it quite intolerable: think of it as a place of training and correction and it’s not so bad. Imagine a set of people all living in the same building. Half of them think it is a hotel, the other half think it is a prison. Those who think it a hotel might regard it as quite intolerable and those who thought it was a prison might decide that it was really surprisingly comfortable. So that what seems the ugly doctrine is one that comforts and strengthens you in the end. The people who try to hold an optimistic view of this world would become pessimists: the people who hold a pretty stern view of it become optimistic. [1. C.S. Lewis (God in the Dock,”Answers to Questions on Christianity” (1944), ans. 5, p. 52.)]
Nietzsche also famously said: "To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering."
Frankl's second theme is likewise otiose. We do not have nearly as much "freedom" than we think. We were born with a particular DNA sequence, embedded within cultural context, subject to certain socio-economic factors, etc., etc., and these greatly affect how we regard and understand ourselves as well as what we believe is possible to choose... If, after qualifying what is meant by "freedom to choose" you still believe that is the essential characteristic of being human, then you are merely restating French existentialists, etc. Frankl's denial of the heavy hand of circumstance begs questions -- he offers no real argument (metaphysically) for his position but instead offers anecdotal evidence...
I will not comment further. Frankl, in my opinion, is not a serious thinker...
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Ultimately as the cup diagrams show, we cannot know the logo (meaning or purpose ) of something except from what the creator says. Human beings are created beings. We didn’t make ourselves, so I think the God of the Bible will give us a good idea into what our meaning is, for the Bible tells us why He created us. To find meaning outside of God is futile as there is a space inside of us that is only fulfilled by God Himself, not by the ‘self’. We just had Easter so our meaning must be similar to Jesus who gave Himself for others. If we try to find meaning we will never find it. If we live for others, and particularly help them to get their eternal meaning through Christ, then we’ll found it.
Jesus lived as a hero and that is what we are called to do, one way or another.
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I like a great deal that Frankl says, but I disagree about what the main goal should be for "man"....
(God I hate that when I still come across all people being referred to as "man" and the false claim that it refers to all people. Frankl, like most male writers up until his time, (and many still today) wrote for and to MEN. That was the audience they had in mind as they wrote or spoke and males were the ones other males thought were important impress. They all literally felt superior to all females...despite some men loving a woman dearly--as did Frankl. )
But as to what the main objective in life should be -- pleasure, power, meaning -- I know it to be HAPPINESS. Each of those first three are desired because they bring a FEELINGS of happiness. I'm not saying hedonism, but a genuine FEELING OF HAPPINESS, which changes as one becomes more aware of real REALITY. But it is this genuine "feeling good" that indicates that one is in vibrational alignment with one's vast, wise, loving INNER BEING. And that is the main goal of every wise person. If you hold beliefs in common with your Inner Being, this will natural generate happy feelings, and these beliefs and feelings will lead you to happy feeling actions.
Many people, including Frankl, seem to think that helping others is the highest good. But that is not true. Alignment with one's Inner Being is the highest good. But living in a left brain paradigm means encountering "self-sacrifice for others" as the highest good. But many women develop breast cancer because they adopted this left brain belief from their family and religion and culture. They give themselves away completely; they nurture everyone but themselves; and their Inner Child does not like it. We must nurture ourselves first, and nurture others only when it is in alignment with the wishes of our Inner Being.
Its easy to assess this alignment. Simply get uiet, close eyes, turn inward and focus on a few long slow breaths. Then imagine the contemplated action. Does your energy and do your feelings expand? feel light? feel good? Then thats a yes from your Inner Being. But, if , when you imagine doing the contemplated action, you feel a slump, a dropping of energy, a darkening...then that is a no...or rather a "not recommended." You are still allowed to do it and observe the outcome. But as soon as you're able, get back in alignment. However, either way is an "allowed free-will choice."
But if you like feeling happy...go with your Inner Being's suggestion.
Again..we are allowed to think and do anything/everything. But only what is in alignment with our Inner Being will bring happiness and further expansion.
I don't agree with Frankl's belief that outer-directed caring/feeling/acting is the place to necessarily find meaning (or happiness.) It may or may not be. Inner, beliefs, feelings and actions (inspired by our Inner Being) are tremendously powerful. Attention to one's spiritual (NOT religious) development, will automatically put spiritual gold in the spiritual bank (Jung's collective unconscious) for the expansion of self and of all. We are all One Being.
Frankls requirement for outward actions of kindness is a result of his left brain dominance. The left brain was designed to look outward and it thinks that outer -reality is real, objective reality. Its not. And that assumption leads to great unhappiness for most people. The left brain doorway to the ego-mind leads to assessing one's self and life by what it sees out-there.
But "Out There" is a subjective consequence of the person's beliefs. ..In Here. Change your beliefs and you change your world. But do it for yourself..not for others or for the purpose of changing the world. All action should be the result of beliefs shared with your Inner Being...and from urges arising from that. And that inner alignment is a fluid shifting changing paradigm that no intellect-driven set of rules can pin down. It is entirely subjective and within the realm of SITUATIONAL ETHICS. That is ... alignment with ones all-wise, all-knowing, Inner Being.
One day it might be aligned to give your piece of bread to another prisoner, and the next day it might be aligned for you to eat it yourself. One must check within constantly. This becomes easy second nature after a while.
The meaning of life is to walk your path as a human being and go and study, work, enjoy every moment with family and receive the good and bad storms and continue your walk on the path of life, live breathing the beautiful ocean, trees, night star splendor of life, when bad times come just continue with a strong demeanour and keep calm and look for what makes you happy, life is beautiful just leave the cube of games and go out to meet your happiness, You are the one using your mind to elevate to a better state of being. Since a child my mind was open to all that was literature, writing, art, religion learning about Jesus helped me in all my struggles just live and listen to Yeshua by Zemer Levac in TH-cam the meaning of life is to walk closely to Jesus he will guide you and stand strong just like he did in the cross. John 3:16 Thank you
I mean seriously....i dont see how one can find meaning in ALL situations.
Sometimes we make a big mess of things, or we are violated by others and we have a choice: blame others, blame ourselves, God or something else, or... learn from the experience. In a way, learning from the experience helps to find meaning. You choose...are you a victim or will you be okay? These are man's best intentions to make sense of life. Praying for you ♥️
your speach is too low sound quality
Satre’s existentialism is hopeless…why do people make a hero of him….he is despairing, unhappy, with no joy, no transcendence. I’ll believe the catholic and protestant saints who offer the hope of salvation through Christ. Uneducated pilgrims understand the deep meanings of life that the rational mind can not penetrate. Satre was a prisoner of his unbelief….and certainly could be forgiven if he were given the light even at his last moment, because God’s salvation is for all…..same for Simone….
its not much of a choice he promotes, between a good inmate and a bad inmate. how the choice to be an inmate......
✫The Meaning of Life, simply put, is … “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.” (Ecclesiastes 12:13). "Fear God" does not mean what you may think.✫ Lord-Jesus-Christ dot
I love Frankl and his work. I enjoyed this video; however, the phrase “take up your cross” is inappropriate and very culture-specific. A reminder: not everyone is a Christian or understands references to Christian stories. Particularly in a talk that, I assume, is intended for a general audience - including for students in a classroom - this was jarring.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me.
+ The Holy Gospel according to Saint John The Theologian 14:6
So how ya doing?
Alan Kuntz Good.
These comments tell that the German people had always a choice to harm the Jewish people or to not harm.