What do you think of Michael Peterson/Charles Arthur Salvador, AKA Charles Bronson? Are you mad at him for glorifying the Kray twins in all his books, especially his main book about them?
Its a very well known fact Ronnie was a violent predator and sadist but yet he is held up as some kind of icon... Fair play to james English and guest for actually calling this out the idolising needs to stop
@@crispyduck1706 i go as far as too say Ronnie and saville were connected , both had friends in high places and saville spent alot of time frequenting Broadmoor
All of them were scum but I couldn't understand why a guy like Freddie Foreman helped them , not with buggering young boys but their murders. I bet Ronnie got rid of a few victims.
Reggie was also into young looking men in prison too. They are plenty of stories of him trying to impress young lads with expensive gifts etc for you know what in return. Both of them were that way inclined.
Yeah...Ronnie had perverted parties at his flat...Boothby ..etc Can't imagine the sickening things that went on...makes my ring piece twitch 😮 Apparently Lord Boothby liked to watch young lads taking a dump😮 Another MP was involved too Labour I think ...name I've forgotten. Another bum boy lover 😮
This stories awfal . I did Parkhurst etc and luckily never saw anything like rape etc ! I thank god I'm 6ft 5 and built like a brick wall I didnt really get much grief . Poor bloke 🇬🇧
Mum and her siblings and parents knew the Krays. My mum's ex boyfriend was Ronnie Hart, and the families used to holiday together. Mum and her sisters were naive about the twins, but my dad has always described them as "violent, sadistic, thugs" and knew they were bad people.
As much as I want to think that the story was fiction it's too easy to believe it was true. No one can endure that level of wicked abuse and remain whole and sane. That and the fact the *system* didn't/doesn't look at the full picture; *why* did this boy, a 13yr old is a boy, start fighting and stabbing the bigger lads? Put him somewhere worse-where the monsters are even bigger, more violent and that he would be violated. Every. Bloody. Day. They didn't care. Those in charge knew what was happening and would happen. They didn't bloody care. He is breathing but he hasn't been *living* in 50+ years.
@leedutch5155 when they were nicked for the murders the police covered up the fact that reggie was in bed with a young man and considering he was in a relationship with a man within his first year in prison shows where his proclivities lay
All these bloody books about the Krays would fill a whole aisle of any bookshop. I’m surprised there isn’t a Kray Cookbook or one written by their barber.
Their mother's hairdresser wrote a book about them .Of course, she worshipped them . I think she really knew a lot more about them than some of the other authors.
The krays use to get boys for the ppl in Westminster, boothby ect, if u was a crime boss,,whats easier have to pay 6 members to be yr body guards for ever,,or be locked up on a wing where u mite just need to intimate a few,,?
Ronnie McCray stole far too much of our oxygen for far too long. And before I get the, "who was supposed to do it? He was crazy, strong and could fight." I guarantee he wasn't the only one and when it's four against one, none of your strength matters.
Did 2 years 2014 - 2016 and never once saw or heard any thing like this [ rape ] or even sexual assault except 1 time in Hull nick some young guy about 25 years old got jumped in his cell by three young lads because he had drugs up his [ A ] and stupidly bragged about it before hand so when he came back from visits they got a spoon and some water held him down and got the drugs [ spice ] I was told but here's the punch line, all 3 got taken down the block immediately for there own safety where charged with sexual assault a few weeks later taken to a different nick in Scotland I was told and all put on the sex offenders list and of coarse spent the rest of there prison time plus the extra 2 years each on a sex offenders wing surrounded by other sex offenders and very scared to be put back in to the prison population not to mention when they got out you are now a sex offender on your record. On another note what the hell is it with American prisons / prisoners as this seems to happen a lot over there perhaps ronnie should have been in prison there where he could find plenty of his sick kind to play with.
@@stevenhoward9926 THERE means something completely different to THEIR. As I say this is basic English that an averagely intelligent primary school child should understand easily. It seems beyond the wit of a lot of adults now.
Ronnie Kray was in Pankhurst Prison from 1972 to 1979. He first was sent to Durham prison after the kray trial ended. He arrived at Durham Prison on the 4th of July 1969. Nipper Read separated the Kray gang and had them sent to different Prisons. Ronnie kray artived at Durham prison were a whole bunch of the famous "Train Robbers" were already banged up doing 30 years. They were all housed on the special unit there. Also, Ian Brady was on the special unit at the same time as Ronnie and the Train Robbers, and no one laid a finger on Ian Brady. When Ronnie first arrived at Durham prison, the screws used to beat him up. His mum would visit him, and he would have black eyes. Ronnie would tell his visitors that the screws just keep steaming into me. Ronnie Krays mother, Violet kray, had to campaign for 3 years to the Home Office to get Ronnie moved to Parkhurt prison to be with Reggie. She stated their twins and needed to be together, and for some reason, they allowed him to be moved to Pankhurst prison. Ronnie said of his 3 years spent in Durham prison, that he had never met one decent prison officer they were all nasty bustards.
The Jesus had a bad name but in real life nipper read was a wrong un a policeman yes but many ex police told me he was a real wrong un very unpopular he thought after the kray trial he was going to be head of flying squad they sent him to Nottingham where he came from he heard a lot of innocent people
One met a guy in the supermarket who once met a guy who knew a man who served time with Ronnie Kray. Some of the stories he told me are truly shocking. If i wasn't already bald they'd have made my hair curl. Still have nightmares to this day
I remember hearing one of those Eastend style villains telling a story about how Ronnie Kray was in a pub with his cohorts and he broke wind very audibly and Reg severely reprimanded him for making a foul smell.
I used to know a woman whos Dad was the dentist in Parkhurst. She had several Christmas cards from Reggie. I used to own a load of letters written by him to his step son too. He could hardly string a coherant sentence together.
This poor guy was raped in borstal as a kid and then violently raped by one of the kray brothers was born without a hope in hell in life. The system fucked him over and discarded him, Sad to hear that this could actually happen to another human being.
EX COP 👮 WELL UP IN SCOTLAND YOU GUYS WERE 😂 GETTING PAID FOR PROTECTING ANIMALS LIKE HAMMY THE POOF SO KARMA IS WITH PPL WHO WERE GETTING PAID FROM HIM
@@TheHungryTrollRawr Goggle the 🐀 He’s the worst person that ever existed in this world 🌎 But he got what he was deserved for everything he did to young boys That he was rapping in and out of the jail He paid police officers 👮 And prison officers 👮♀️ for getting to do what he wanted to young guys And they ended up taking their own lives so he couldn’t get them anymore That’s how bad a horrible human being Hammy the POOF 😡😡😡
@@TheHungryTrollRawr The most evil human being ever He was a animal 🦔 that was paying the police 👮 and prison officers 👮♀️ for letting him do what he wanted to Goggle Him 😡😡😡
My mate got a lifer in 80s and crossed his path various jails, said he bad bstrd, and intimate screws /inmates...saying he knew what time their family members walked dogs, their familys day to day moments, he told me he pulled up Hugh Collins and he shit himself, lots of other bad stuff...nasty piece of work @@allison3608
They had a connection to Lord Boothby. Another paedophile. The Kray twins shouldn't be admired. They supplied children to the powerful around town. These are the rumours. As my father said.. "Shit breeds Shit in most cases". They are the perfect example.
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he was scum
What do you think of Michael Peterson/Charles Arthur Salvador, AKA Charles Bronson? Are you mad at him for glorifying the Kray twins in all his books, especially his main book about them?
Ronnie would’ve loved Huw Edwards
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😂😂😂
About 50 years too old for Ronnie.
Birds of a feather flock together as they say.
@@smith2781you spelt boys wrong
Its a very well known fact Ronnie was a violent predator and sadist but yet he is held up as some kind of icon... Fair play to james English and guest for actually calling this out the idolising needs to stop
Agreed needs to be thought of as no better than Jimmy Saville
@@crispyduck1706 i go as far as too say Ronnie and saville were connected , both had friends in high places and saville spent alot of time frequenting Broadmoor
Krays were disgusting creatures
In impoverished communities the violent ones are always ‘icons’.😒
They were pedos
All the glamorisation of the krays makes me sick, bad, bad people.
All of them were scum but I couldn't understand why a guy like Freddie Foreman helped them , not with buggering young boys but their murders.
I bet Ronnie got rid of a few victims.
Reggie was also into young looking men in prison too. They are plenty of stories of him trying to impress young lads with expensive gifts etc for you know what in return. Both of them were that way inclined.
They were nothing like in the films.
That poor man he was talking about. Failed by the system 😭
Still happens all the time 😢
the system is shit
yep, you go in a criminal, you come out either a hardened one or Traumatised
Think of all those actors and such, that hung around with the Krays and glorified them.
Yeah...Ronnie had perverted parties at his flat...Boothby ..etc
Can't imagine the sickening things that went on...makes my ring piece twitch 😮
Apparently Lord Boothby liked to watch young lads taking a dump😮
Another MP was involved too Labour I think ...name I've forgotten.
Another bum boy lover 😮
no wonder that lord boothby liked them never understood looking up to two crooks who's life ended at age 28 .
They were probably as bad as the Krays.
This stories awfal . I did Parkhurst etc and luckily never saw anything like rape etc ! I thank god I'm 6ft 5 and built like a brick wall I didnt really get much grief . Poor bloke 🇬🇧
Did u nt have a boyfriend?
@@CarlBland-l8l not funny mate
Mum and her siblings and parents knew the Krays. My mum's ex boyfriend was Ronnie Hart, and the families used to holiday together. Mum and her sisters were naive about the twins, but my dad has always described them as "violent, sadistic, thugs" and knew they were bad people.
I HATE this World.
Leave then 😂
Me and you both.
@eddierose6442 I am soon thankfully
@@eddierose6442that’s a really screwed up thing to say to someone.
It's the human race that's the problem
As much as I want to think that the story was fiction it's too easy to believe it was true. No one can endure that level of wicked abuse and remain whole and sane. That and the fact the *system* didn't/doesn't look at the full picture; *why* did this boy, a 13yr old is a boy, start fighting and stabbing the bigger lads? Put him somewhere worse-where the monsters are even bigger, more violent and that he would be violated. Every. Bloody. Day. They didn't care. Those in charge knew what was happening and would happen. They didn't bloody care. He is breathing but he hasn't been *living* in 50+ years.
If a Hollywood movie was made about this 13 year old boy's life it would win OSCARS!!
Why is this guy saying this with a smile on his face like hes telling a joke down the local pub
Don't think that's the case. Its just a reaction. Think the fella said what he heard made him want to cry .
Did me too
This man was held in the highest regard in the criminal fraternity.
No he wasn’t.If he hadn’t been taken off the streets he would have been Unalived
The richardsons were the real gangsters not the krays,gays are not respected
Really? He was a Nonce.
Yeah I think they had about 1 more month left in them before they both got executed on the street. Going to jail saved them.
My dad saw RK in jail. Said he was shot full of drugs and stood there staring at the floor.
Prison sounds bloody awful.
Very sad your life can take a turn for worse at any moment 💔
I bet everyone who went to his funeral and sent condolences feels like a mug after hearing this😒
I used to idolise the Kray brothers when i was younger. Defìnetly not anymore
@@K-a-n-d-i-sthat’s because you grew up!
Unfortunately there’s many who don’t.
Yh I liked them when I was a child but as I got older I realised they weren't Robin Hood
@@leedutch5155 exactly!
@@Kiefer1976 yes I know a few older people who still do idolise them unfortunately
If this story is true it’s xtremely sad
Reggie was as bent as ronnie
I’ve heard rumours
@leedutch5155 when they were nicked for the murders the police covered up the fact that reggie was in bed with a young man and considering he was in a relationship with a man within his first year in prison shows where his proclivities lay
They where *bum bandits* !😂
That’s why is wife killed her self
😂😂😂😂@@a.v.london1952
This is shocking.....presuming it's true! The system failed him 😢
If true ?? When Ronnie was arrested he was not in bed with a 13 boy ! He had his own lover a lot older than
Me ol'nan lived two houses down from the Krays. Me ol'nan said they were good to their mum, innit.
What the fuck are you about?
Oh enough with the flippin Krays now.... 60 years ago
Why you watching this then
They are in hell now
Yet there you were tuned right into a 4minute short all about one half of them
A lot of money in the prison system and there is always someone milking it
Ffs terrible,guy never had a chance
Bent up like a pretzel. 🤦♂️
All these bloody books about the Krays would fill a whole aisle of any bookshop.
I’m surprised there isn’t a Kray Cookbook or one written by their barber.
Their mother's hairdresser wrote a book about them .Of course, she worshipped them . I think she really knew a lot more about them than some of the other authors.
The krays use to get boys for the ppl in Westminster, boothby ect, if u was a crime boss,,whats easier have to pay 6 members to be yr body guards for ever,,or be locked up on a wing where u mite just need to intimate a few,,?
They were pedos
What a bummer
If that story is true, it shows the prison system achieves nothing. He never stood a chance. 3 years for burning curtains was excessive to start with.
Ronnie McCray stole far too much of our oxygen for far too long.
And before I get the, "who was supposed to do it? He was crazy, strong and could fight."
I guarantee he wasn't the only one and when it's four against one, none of your strength matters.
Who?
@@xMisterAx that’s what I said 😂
Did 2 years 2014 - 2016 and never once saw or heard any thing like this [ rape ] or even sexual assault except 1 time in Hull nick some young guy about 25 years old got jumped in his cell by three young lads because he had drugs up his [ A ] and stupidly bragged about it before hand so when he came back from visits they got a spoon and some water held him down and got the drugs [ spice ] I was told but here's the punch line, all 3 got taken down the block immediately for there own safety where charged with sexual assault a few weeks later taken to a different nick in Scotland I was told and all put on the sex offenders list and of coarse spent the rest of there prison time plus the extra 2 years each on a sex offenders wing surrounded by other sex offenders and very scared to be put back in to the prison population not to mention when they got out you are now a sex offender on your record. On another note what the hell is it with American prisons / prisoners as this seems to happen a lot over there perhaps ronnie should have been in prison there where he could find plenty of his sick kind to play with.
you said you NEVER heard or saw anything except 1 time...??? so YOU did see then..??? DOOH
'THEIR own safety'. Getting THERE THEIR THEY'RE right isn't rocket science. It's basic English.
Jesus your sad 😂😂😂😂@@heiltd1286
@@heiltd1286 so what.
@@stevenhoward9926 THERE means something completely different to THEIR. As I say this is basic English that an averagely intelligent primary school child should understand easily. It seems beyond the wit of a lot of adults now.
And we idolise and look up to these animals?!
What does it say about us??
Fair play James for airing this.x
U idolise them batty boys
Hi James,heart breaking story that,is thier a full interview with this chap, great interviews you do mate.Tony
This ex. Police officer would of been on the numbers with all the wrongins.
Ronnie Kray was in Pankhurst Prison from 1972 to 1979. He first was sent to Durham prison after the kray trial ended. He arrived at Durham Prison on the 4th of July 1969. Nipper Read separated the Kray gang and had them sent to different Prisons. Ronnie kray artived at Durham prison were a whole bunch of the famous "Train Robbers" were already banged up doing 30 years. They were all housed on the special unit there. Also, Ian Brady was on the special unit at the same time as Ronnie and the Train Robbers, and no one laid a finger on Ian Brady. When Ronnie first arrived at Durham prison, the screws used to beat him up. His mum would visit him, and he would have black eyes. Ronnie would tell his visitors that the screws just keep steaming into me. Ronnie Krays mother, Violet kray, had to campaign for 3 years to the Home Office to get Ronnie moved to Parkhurt prison to be with Reggie. She stated their twins and needed to be together, and for some reason, they allowed him to be moved to Pankhurst prison. Ronnie said of his 3 years spent in Durham prison, that he had never met one decent prison officer they were all nasty bustards.
Ronnie was in Broadmore until his death.
@@CrueLoaf He was admitted there in 79
The Jesus had a bad name but in real life nipper read was a wrong un a policeman yes but many ex police told me he was a real wrong un very unpopular he thought after the kray trial he was going to be head of flying squad they sent him to Nottingham where he came from he heard a lot of innocent people
One met a guy in the supermarket who once met a guy who knew a man who served time with Ronnie Kray. Some of the stories he told me are truly shocking. If i wasn't already bald they'd have made my hair curl. Still have nightmares to this day
He reminds me of David Brent.
Yeah he does lol
i thought that too lol
haha
Ronnie had a reputation for Red Tape and youths.
red tape?
@@TheHungryTrollRawrscotch tape
You can't say rape apparently the police will arrest you.
I believe the ex cop, but like he himself said don’t believe the lying prisoners story.
I remember hearing one of those Eastend style villains telling a story about how Ronnie Kray was in a pub with his cohorts and he broke wind very audibly and Reg severely reprimanded him for making a foul smell.
52 years.
Cray twins.
i'm glad you are both gone.
Brothers destroyed each other's assssss
You mean arse?
Interesting, he was a corrupt cop! Giving an interview, I would love to meet him!
The guy dead so anyone can say what they want without being challenged
Yes that is correct my friend a lo said by people they had bother with
How does anyone know Julian was telling the truth when he was obvous mental he could of made it up or imagined it
It's well know both the krays were involved in pedofilia
'He could OF made it up'. Someone who's intelligent would write 'He could'VE made it up........'.
@@heiltd1286 Well you didn't write it, you typed it.
@wilfridwibblesworth2613 check his shorts mate the kinda night out he has no wonder he's a vile troll the poor lad
Move on ffs.trebble ?stop cashing in
I heard he bummed Yammy B too....
Does Yammy talk about the Krays at all on his channel? I've watched a few vids about Lee Duffy and Paul Sykes, not seen them all thou yet
😂😂😂😂😂😂💪☘️🇮🇪
There we were,now here we are...
Not gangsters, and usually.. bullies with idolising no marks looking to be somebody by association and they always end up being the next victims.
I used to know a woman whos Dad was the dentist in Parkhurst.
She had several Christmas cards from Reggie.
I used to own a load of letters written by him to his step son too.
He could hardly string a coherant sentence together.
They were deeply disturbed individuals.
Why would you admit this
from your favourite social networking
Poor lad
That's fucken horrible
Pair of beasts
The Krays werent actually in prison.
Psyop all the way.
Ronnie was in Parkhurst on the IoW, Reggie was in prison.
Exactly. People’s sexual preferences cannot be changed
Ronnie was a P
Yep them hardened krays were up hill gardener's 😂
It was curtains for him!
This poor guy was raped in borstal as a kid and then violently raped by one of the kray brothers was born without a hope in hell in life. The system fucked him over and discarded him, Sad to hear that this could actually happen to another human being.
Kray was a raving iron
I here they were all up themselves and Courtney would supply young boys from his dungeon parties and escorts them back and forth to prison for them.
ronnie was a nasty puff.
Krays the mith the truth you all still love it .
sounds like you're the one that loves it!
Rather Reg and Ron than any of the scum around today.
Ronnie Kray was seriously mentally ill. Not an excuse but just to clarify he was anything but normal
Typical Scooby
EX COP 👮 WELL UP IN SCOTLAND YOU GUYS WERE 😂
GETTING PAID FOR PROTECTING ANIMALS LIKE HAMMY THE POOF SO KARMA IS WITH PPL WHO WERE GETTING PAID FROM HIM
who is Hammy?
@@TheHungryTrollRawr Goggle the 🐀
He’s the worst person that ever existed in this world 🌎
But he got what he was deserved for everything he did to young boys
That he was rapping in and out of the jail
He paid police officers 👮
And prison officers 👮♀️ for getting to do what he wanted to young guys
And they ended up taking their own lives so he couldn’t get them anymore
That’s how bad a horrible human being
Hammy the POOF 😡😡😡
@@TheHungryTrollRawr The most horrific person ever to exist on earth 🌍
@@TheHungryTrollRawr The most evil human being ever
He was a animal 🦔 that was paying the police 👮 and prison officers 👮♀️ for letting him do what he wanted to
Goggle Him 😡😡😡
My mate got a lifer in 80s and crossed his path various jails, said he bad bstrd, and intimate screws /inmates...saying he knew what time their family members walked dogs, their familys day to day moments, he told me he pulled up Hugh Collins and he shit himself, lots of other bad stuff...nasty piece of work @@allison3608
Bullshit. Ronnie kray was never in patkhursr
A HS nonse? well there’s a first!
Moron… I’d be so proud to be bummed by ronnie fr
Vote labour
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It was Reggie it was on Parkhurst , not Ronnie .
Fucking hell, everyone knows this .
Why ? Ronnie, come out way before Reggie ..... why would it be obvious ?
Ronnie was at parkhurst, reggie was at long larton
@@tommytit1618 you’re wrong. Reggie was in Parkhurst, my cousin was serving eight years on there when he was there .
Anyone can google that .
They were both in parkhurst before ronnie was nutted off
@@BullyBoxer ronnie was at parkhurst on c wing,the he was sent to Winchester where he got committed and moved to broadmoor
Not a very nice claim to fame.
I hate the Kray brother bullshit
🤢
Krays😂😂😂😂
And people think there legends 😂
Well that’s what happens in prisons ,not saying it’s right but it just is what it is !
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Cry Baby Mug
😊
Twins wir bent
😅
Sorry
Pure nonsense about Ronnie,
Why do you say that?
They had a connection to Lord Boothby. Another paedophile. The Kray twins shouldn't be admired. They supplied children to the powerful around town. These are the rumours. As my father said.. "Shit breeds Shit in most cases". They are the perfect example.
Yeh, Ronnie
Pure Nonce...
PureNonce Ronnie...!
Not On Normal Courtyard Exercise.
pure cap
They wood not last 5mins today a pair of pratts
Didnt Cliff Richard attended Ronnie Kray's parties?
Kitty .
The krays were wrongens and nonces well said james