I don’t care how popular a player is in the locker room , are they helping us get closer to a cup run or not. The answer was no. They were given plenty of time
Yeah because Howie always has great drafts lol until the past 2 years he has done horrible did you forget Reagor over Jefferson come on dude don't let 2 good drafts wash away the horrible ones
Having a "good room" is a nice feel good story. But what has having a "good room" done for this team? We have no killers in this lineup, we need fiery skilled guys who are willing to be vocal and keep everyone accountable. After watching BTS footage of guys like McKinnon and McDavid being vocal and holding guys accountable, it was evident that we need more dudes like that, Obviously skilled guys like that don't grow on trees, but the Flyers are too comfortable being friends and settling for mediocrity.
FINALLY someone with a brain. I completely agree with you. 100%. Culture and having a good room has done nothing for this organization except keep them in a good light for public relations. It's time to actually change the on ice product
Hasn’t the plan always been trying to acquire top skill talent while clearing out the complacency? You can’t acquire top talent with while paying players like Hayes, frost, and Farabee on the roster. McDavid and McKinnon are poor examples cause players like that don’t come around like that very often. They are the elite of the elite. I’m guessing Bride’s plan is to continue to build through the draft and acquire one upper echelon center either through the draft or a trade.
@ you’re missing the point completely. I know they don’t come around often, I said that. The point is that they need guys who are competitors who don’t care that their buddies with everybody and will light a fire under their asses and call them out if they’re not pulling their weight. It’s great if they go to dinner and ball games all that other shit together, but if you’re too concerned about being somebody’s friend and not calling them out turning the puck over five times a game in your D zone and standing in the crease then what are we even doing?
@ I don't think Im missing the point. Briere and Torts have been on record for a while now what the plan is. Fix the locker room culture first, clearing cap space, then accuriing top end talent. Also that player you're describing sounds a lot like Michov. Once he learns english and develops more Im sure he'lll become that guy.
Danny will use the late 1st rounders and second rd picks to move up in this draft. I also feel torts needs to go. The team isn’t buying his coaching. The team is tough to watch anymore and should be focusing on tanking this year for a top 5 pick and building around michkov.
@@bigtimer6834 I feel like moving up in the draft is way less likely in hockey because they’re so few coveted players in any given draft. Why would anyone want to miss out on a top 10 pick for two or three mediocre ones? Obviously, it depends on the overall talent level in the draft pool but it just doesn’t seem that likely.
Don’t agree about Mich…..you can teach him in game….dont have to bench him….teaching moment vs. embarrassing the kid….why does drysdale get a pass every time he’s caught up ice….dont see him benched
I’m good with the trade. But I’m also unsure if this flyers management/coaching staff know how to develop players in this current NHL. I haven’t seen any of these guys get better over time.
I'm honestly at the point it's getting painful to be a fan of this team...over and over it's the same crap that doesn't work...at least now the so called "retool" crap seems to finally be done with and the rebuild, that should have started years ago, will finally start....they need to be very careful how they go about this because it's almost certain Michkov ain't gonna hang around after the ELC expires just to play for a crap team that has no chance of winning...why would he want to?...I wouldn't...they should have waited to bring him in, started the rebuild last off-season and in two years bring him in with at least a chance of being a winning team before his ELC expires....this team has potential with it's youth and once Sam gets full starter experience and stamina I'm sure he's gonna be a decent netminder but they need a decent scorer and that's always been lacking since G was in his prime...over paying for veterans over the hill clearly hasn't worked...they need to pay the ticket to bring in a quality scorer and at least have a consistent 70-80 point guy again...TK is a great offensive player but he's not that number 1 guy and plays better when that kind of pressure isn't suffocating him...this team is sadly just a mess at this point and it really F-ing sucks to know it's gonna be years before watching this team isn't tough to do anymore because they wanted to push this damn rebuild for no reason
like so many others I sure thought Frost would be special. We were wrong. I don't know was it the coaching was it his thought process the kids got skill it certainly didn't develop the way I'm sure everyone hoped
They can either .. reboot this whole team for the next 15 years with these 7 picks in rounds 1 n 2 Or you use some and grab a stud with the cap space they will have opened up in 25' n 26'
Flyers still have two huge contracts, for Couts and Sanheim, that probably make them both untradeable. Couts is making $7.75 million for 5 more years!!! And Sanheim is making $6.25 million for the same term. And Michkov has no defensive ability whatsoever. Has he won any board battles or caused a single turnover all year long? How do you get him to challenge for puck possession? Frustrating as a fan and don't see how they get out of this mediocrity.
We gave up on 2 young high draft picks because they haven't developed quick enough to the coach's liking ? Always the fault of the players, right ? Maybe the coaches & developers aren't as good as what the organization think. Anyway, we dumped Frost, Farabee, & their salaries. Took on 2 more under-achievers on expiring contracts, unlikely to be any more than 1/2 season rentals & not re-sign here. Plus a 2nd round pick in 2025 ( OK, maybe something good will come from that) & a 7th round pick in 2028 ( who knows ? ). Calgary got the better of the trade. Things will get worse this year, & probably the next couple as well. The official tanking has begun.
There’s certainly gonna be some strategy behind the tortorella contract and the psyche of the players. The only way to establish the standard, in my opinion, is to send a message to the players that torts isn’t going anywhere. Give him another 4 years and force the players to swallow that realization and get back to work.
If you consider JF's 5 mil and the 2-3 mil we would've signed Frost for thats like 8 mil per year off the books. I'm fine with it. Kuz is gone after this season.
Trade happened on the day Comcast stock dropped 12% and has been tanking for years. They basically couldn't afford to pay frost and farabee so they traded them for a small French kid who apparently plays good defence unlike farabee and frost
I'm ok with moving on from Frost and Farabee's long-term contract. They are average players. However, what we got in return doesn't seem like an upgrade at this point, we shall see. This could be part of a greater move downstream, I don't know. I've already accepted the Flyers may not make the playoffs. Keep stocking up on draft picks and freeing up cap space for future acquisitions. Also, unload Torts at end of year (or sooner).
Torts breaks players, he needs to go. He is toxic. The whole coaching staff need to walk the plank. PP sucks. Offense is just passing the puck around and around and around the boards. Make Risto a forward and let him crash the net. LOLOL. 3 games in 4 days would make any team look flat but no goals at all in consecutive games?
Sooo stoked about getting another 5'9" Flyer 🤦🏻♂️.. what's a few more years of waiting to win a cup again after you've waited 50🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ P.S. Torts needs to be shown the door.
Last year they said Walker was old and now they get this washed up Russian. I might cancel Comcast sports they should pay me to watch this dumpster fire.
My Trade is avalaible again to Buffalo Sanheim and Konecny for Rasmus Dalhin and Tage Thomson (OR) Dylan Cozens 🏒🤔, too late Buffalo Will say no thank you 🤷
Farabee, Frost, O’Brien, Rubstov, and Patrick was stellar scouting.
And Isaac Ratcliffe before Jason Robertson and Sam Morin before Ryan Pulock 🤷🏒
Thats a big reason the Flyers where they are 🤷
Seriously the whole 2000 10s was just shit drafts and prospects minus a couple here and there.
Damn shame
I've been saying it for some time. The scouting is terrible. The only good selection they've made in last 10 yrs is Konecny. It's time to clean shop.
Hextall and his smartest guy in the room mentality.
I’m from Calgary… not a huge trade, but probably good trade for both teams. Time will tell..
Briere is stockpiling draft picks.
The Flyers are not making the playoffs(Playoffs?)
I wish Farabee and Frost much luck with the Flames.
I don’t care how popular a player is in the locker room , are they helping us get closer to a cup run or not. The answer was no. They were given plenty of time
Michkov and kuzmenko do have chemistry together playing for St. Petersburg in the khl so possible help for Michkov
Have Howie do the draft lol😂!
Yeah because Howie always has great drafts lol until the past 2 years he has done horrible did you forget Reagor over Jefferson come on dude don't let 2 good drafts wash away the horrible ones
Having a "good room" is a nice feel good story. But what has having a "good room" done for this team? We have no killers in this lineup, we need fiery skilled guys who are willing to be vocal and keep everyone accountable. After watching BTS footage of guys like McKinnon and McDavid being vocal and holding guys accountable, it was evident that we need more dudes like that, Obviously skilled guys like that don't grow on trees, but the Flyers are too comfortable being friends and settling for mediocrity.
FINALLY someone with a brain. I completely agree with you. 100%. Culture and having a good room has done nothing for this organization except keep them in a good light for public relations. It's time to actually change the on ice product
Hasn’t the plan always been trying to acquire top skill talent while clearing out the complacency? You can’t acquire top talent with while paying players like Hayes, frost, and Farabee on the roster. McDavid and McKinnon are poor examples cause players like that don’t come around like that very often. They are the elite of the elite. I’m guessing Bride’s plan is to continue to build through the draft and acquire one upper echelon center either through the draft or a trade.
@ you’re missing the point completely. I know they don’t come around often, I said that. The point is that they need guys who are competitors who don’t care that their buddies with everybody and will light a fire under their asses and call them out if they’re not pulling their weight. It’s great if they go to dinner and ball games all that other shit together, but if you’re too concerned about being somebody’s friend and not calling them out turning the puck over five times a game in your D zone and standing in the crease then what are we even doing?
@ I don't think Im missing the point. Briere and Torts have been on record for a while now what the plan is. Fix the locker room culture first, clearing cap space, then accuriing top end talent. Also that player you're describing sounds a lot like Michov. Once he learns english and develops more Im sure he'lll become that guy.
Yeah exactly. It’s nice that they’re all friends and can hang out after they miss the playoffs again
Danny will use the late 1st rounders and second rd picks to move up in this draft. I also feel torts needs to go. The team isn’t buying his coaching. The team is tough to watch anymore and should be focusing on tanking this year for a top 5 pick and building around michkov.
@@bigtimer6834 I feel like moving up in the draft is way less likely in hockey because they’re so few coveted players in any given draft. Why would anyone want to miss out on a top 10 pick for two or three mediocre ones? Obviously, it depends on the overall talent level in the draft pool but it just doesn’t seem that likely.
Now since we are now sellers, and rebuilding, let’s hope Risto, Seeler, Laughton can also be traded for at least 2 future first round picks.
Don’t agree about Mich…..you can teach him in game….dont have to bench him….teaching moment vs. embarrassing the kid….why does drysdale get a pass every time he’s caught up ice….dont see him benched
Thank god I don’t have to watch Frost play hockey anymore😂😂😂
I’m good with the trade. But I’m also unsure if this flyers management/coaching staff know how to develop players in this current NHL. I haven’t seen any of these guys get better over time.
Every year same old shit with Flyers. Front office needs to go from the top to bottom.
How much could you get selling your Michov picture frame on the market?
I don't want to be the GM, but I really want my season tickets to have value.
I'm honestly at the point it's getting painful to be a fan of this team...over and over it's the same crap that doesn't work...at least now the so called "retool" crap seems to finally be done with and the rebuild, that should have started years ago, will finally start....they need to be very careful how they go about this because it's almost certain Michkov ain't gonna hang around after the ELC expires just to play for a crap team that has no chance of winning...why would he want to?...I wouldn't...they should have waited to bring him in, started the rebuild last off-season and in two years bring him in with at least a chance of being a winning team before his ELC expires....this team has potential with it's youth and once Sam gets full starter experience and stamina I'm sure he's gonna be a decent netminder but they need a decent scorer and that's always been lacking since G was in his prime...over paying for veterans over the hill clearly hasn't worked...they need to pay the ticket to bring in a quality scorer and at least have a consistent 70-80 point guy again...TK is a great offensive player but he's not that number 1 guy and plays better when that kind of pressure isn't suffocating him...this team is sadly just a mess at this point and it really F-ing sucks to know it's gonna be years before watching this team isn't tough to do anymore because they wanted to push this damn rebuild for no reason
like so many others I sure thought Frost would be special. We were wrong. I don't know was it the coaching was it his thought process the kids got skill it certainly didn't develop the way I'm sure everyone hoped
They need more talent. Konecny and Michkov are not enough.
They can either .. reboot this whole team for the next 15 years with these 7 picks in rounds 1 n 2
Or you use some and grab a stud with the cap space they will have opened up in 25' n 26'
seems like everybody sucks in Phily
Soooo glad to see Frost go!! Now if we can dump drysdale and zamula for some grit and tougher defenseman. Our back end is too small and soft.
im fine with jamie, Z sucks though hopefully we can get something more than a garbage can for him
Flyers still have two huge contracts, for Couts and Sanheim, that probably make them both untradeable. Couts is making $7.75 million for 5 more years!!! And Sanheim is making $6.25 million for the same term. And Michkov has no defensive ability whatsoever. Has he won any board battles or caused a single turnover all year long? How do you get him to challenge for puck possession? Frustrating as a fan and don't see how they get out of this mediocrity.
Carter who??
This is all great but when for the love of god is the end for this relic HC.
We gave up on 2 young high draft picks because they haven't developed quick enough to the coach's liking ? Always the fault of the players, right ? Maybe the coaches & developers aren't as good as what the organization think. Anyway, we dumped Frost, Farabee, & their salaries. Took on 2 more under-achievers on expiring contracts, unlikely to be any more than 1/2 season rentals & not re-sign here. Plus a 2nd round pick in 2025 ( OK, maybe something good will come from that) & a 7th round pick in 2028 ( who knows ? ). Calgary got the better of the trade. Things will get worse this year, & probably the next couple as well. The official tanking has begun.
There’s certainly gonna be some strategy behind the tortorella contract and the psyche of the players. The only way to establish the standard, in my opinion, is to send a message to the players that torts isn’t going anywhere. Give him another 4 years and force the players to swallow that realization and get back to work.
the players may revolt if that happens
Give Caveman Torts another 4 yrs??That's crazy. Star players don't want to play for him.
If you consider JF's 5 mil and the 2-3 mil we would've signed Frost for thats like 8 mil per year off the books. I'm fine with it. Kuz is gone after this season.
Poor trade, Danny should have held firm and gotten one of the Flames 1st round picks. Not impressed
They don’t have any centers.
so what? The 2 centers they just traded werent doing squat
@@mptr1783We traded one center Frost!
Thats just Torts being Torts Hahahahaha!!!!!!.......He needs to be fired at the end of the season.
Go out and get Clayton Keller.
Trade happened on the day Comcast stock dropped 12% and has been tanking for years.
They basically couldn't afford to pay frost and farabee so they traded them for a small French kid who apparently plays good defence unlike farabee and frost
The Flyers continue on the road to being completely irrelevant in Philly. A boring team filled with nothing but Joe Bag'O Donuts.
I'm ok with moving on from Frost and Farabee's long-term contract. They are average players. However, what we got in return doesn't seem like an upgrade at this point, we shall see. This could be part of a greater move downstream, I don't know. I've already accepted the Flyers may not make the playoffs. Keep stocking up on draft picks and freeing up cap space for future acquisitions. Also, unload Torts at end of year (or sooner).
Michkov is slow. Not impressed.
The Trade should be Frost for Kuzmenko and a 2 round Pick
I keep Farabee he got gritt and good commitment but at 5millions x 3more years maybe too Much 🤷🤔🏒 we can Say we' re in rebuild
They gave up on this team very disappointing hard to be a fan these days Hope is gone
Torts breaks players, he needs to go. He is toxic. The whole coaching staff need to walk the plank. PP sucks. Offense is just passing the puck around and around and around the boards. Make Risto a forward and let him crash the net. LOLOL. 3 games in 4 days would make any team look flat but no goals at all in consecutive games?
You are a fool 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sooo stoked about getting another 5'9" Flyer 🤦🏻♂️.. what's a few more years of waiting to win a cup again after you've waited 50🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ P.S. Torts needs to be shown the door.
I'm looking forward to Michkov being a solid two way player who averages 45 points a season.
You win with stars, no matter what the sport. I’m also not a fan of this coach, he had ONE great run with the Rangers, that’s it.
He had a pretty good run with Tampa too
Last year they said Walker was old and now they get this washed up Russian. I might cancel Comcast sports they should pay me to watch this dumpster fire.
He’s done at the end of the year? Don’t quite understand your point
@@Jandrews215 People need something to complain about.
They traded Walker for a 1st rounder, not because he's washed but because he was playing well to get that pick ?
Comcast sux..........they ruined the Flyers and I hate their cable
so... a soft pile of poop just got softer 😂
My Trade is avalaible again to Buffalo Sanheim and Konecny for Rasmus Dalhin and Tage Thomson (OR) Dylan Cozens 🏒🤔, too late Buffalo Will say no thank you 🤷