This gave me something to think about. I always play on PvP servers but most of the time I don't attack others I just defend myself. It backfires quite often. You spare some dude at very low life fighting a mob but when he has healed up here he comes attacking you when you are grinding at low health. Not giving a damn about how nice you just were not attacking him. My worry I guess has been that if I attack and kill them first I'm not going to get any peace grinding afterwards.
It really depends on what stage of the game you are at too. Normally at the very start of Classic people will leave each other alone because people just want to level and the pvp system isn't implemented yet so there is not as much incentive to kill people.
This was hugely popular in 2004 on Kel'Thuzad. No one farmed it unless they worked for a gold company. It was a battle zone controlled by Chinese rogues on both factions.. Sometimes a few hunters too. This way, you'd get griefed to open the spawns for both factions of Chinese. This won't be farmable outside of being a battleground. 5 knplayers. 350+ of them 60 in 1 month tops. 10% of those 350+ fughting to farm in this area alone.
When you're a druid and you know what you're doing, the smart enemies wont even bother trying to gank you. Not because they can't, but because even if they can, it will take forever.
This was a great edited video. Didn't feel like I was watching a 16 min video at all. The tips are solid and the pvp footage makes it so interesting to watch :D
Awesome content man. I thoroughly enjoy your style. Your druid videos keep me optimistic about rolling druid or shadow priest for classic. Best of luck and keep it up!
Comparing the speed to the Hunter kill speed was a good idea. I think a little bit more of that comparison would be good in the future. Great vid, keep it up Ebbn.
For people playing classic. You wont do nearly as much damage as him. Lvl 60 druid here with some tier 1 gear. I heal half as much. Also, this does not work on medium servers because stuff does not sell at all.
give it time. Ive seen felcloth go 2g and 2 days later up to 6g per. (My opinion): Most classic players are full time workers. School peeps yeah but not as much an impact from 6pm-11pm server. I wait till the weekend when servers full. During the week server is never above medium. As for drop rate yeah its a lil underwhelming when 4 mobs in a row have 0 loot.
you dont actually show on map where its at, and you even pull up ur map and close it so fast no one can see it. not sure how this is not an obvious thing to consider making a video on where to farm.
Yeah a lesson for the "nice guys" out there: DO NOT leave lower players alone, especially healers. Often times they will not pick a fight with you (obv reasons) but as soon as you get into a fight with a level 60 they pay you back for leaving them be for 30 mins by jumping in to help the guy fighting you. Also, the fact that the 53 is a Corp and the 60 Mage is a Pvt says something... I think that mage is used to losing.
As a druid I also basically lived in that zone (real and pservers). Even if bored of farming, the pvp was fun. Tons of raid farm items there do you get players with good gear on but also get to see who are pvp'rs and who are just raid loggers.
For some classes it is good for others it isn't unless you are the spec that matches up with the gear that drops. For Paladins/Druids that aren't healers and Warriors that aren't tanks there isn't much for them.
@@Turtlemilk Yeah indeed. Farming the Ogre Warlocks at Deadwind Pass is pretty nice cash. About 30g/h from just the gold, silk and grays and there's a change to get an enchating pattern that sells for 150g-250g
Been farming this on my rogue and vendoring everything besides felcloth that sells for 3g a pop on my server. I get probably 40g per hour before I sell felcloth mabe almost 200g in about 4 hrs edit: also I farm jadefire glen has alot less people that come around
Awesome video, man. Love the informative combined with the style of "day-in-the-life" of a PVP realm druid. Really let's me feel like that could be me playing while watching you. Keep it up!
Good stuff thanks for vid, one question though. did you do this in moonglow spec or heart of the wild spec? i often find it hard to do AOE pulls and resort to going bear and swipe which makes process so much slower. Atm running heart of wild spec / resto spec.
So what role do you take in raiding with HOTW+NS build. I'm going to be rolling a druid for my main on classic but was a priest in vanilla. I like the healer hybrid build. But does it qualify as healer or more spot heals/dps
May want to mention why the runes are so special. They are like a life tap, trade health for some mana. But they also do not share a cool down with mana pots so if you are having problems with mana while raiding you can pop both a pot and a rune back to back for a lot of mana. I farmed these on my priest in Vanilla.
The rogues always stun me out of barkskin/hurricane early, I also don’t seem to have enough damage to get them in one hurricane. Do I need better gear?
hi ebb! I have a question, is it better to "rush" the quests / grinde for a faster up, and turn around with items that drop in the way, or better stop up to run behind items, at certain lvls?
I think I was grinding there on my warlock in vanilla from 55-58 or something, I had all the felcloth for my robe if the void while getting XP cloth and gold ...But I was playing a but late into vanilla so it wasn't that dense from enemy players. Probably it will be packed in classic launch .
Back in vanilla I'd farm here regularly with my warlock (and at the nearby firbolg village). I was on a PVE server, and I've been thinking I might try a PVP server when Classic rolls out, but after watching your video I'm back on the fence. :-P
Drinking up, since it is one minute and by the time you cast the spell + kill and loot the mobs you only have 20-40 sec left on the cooldown but you still have to drink. So it should be up every pull.
Gold. Felcloth is the only thing worth putting o the AH. Also go to jadefire glen. You get mageweave Instead of runecloth (which sells better on my server) but it's never contested and more mobs
4:07 starts aggroing satyrs, 4:49 finishes killing all of them, then waits for mana 20 seconds, total 5 satyrs killed, roughly 1 min time spent, including resting. Gets really low on mana and risks dying to decently geared enemies. 12:30 starts killing satyrs in catform, 13:03 killed 4 satyrs, high mana and health so no need to rest. HOW is this slower than the aoe method? Not only this but your mana will never be low since it's regening it in catform, so you're unlikely to be caught off-guard.
@@MrBrian465 if it was by 5 times, at 12:52 healing touch took 2 seconds, are you trying to say it has a cast time of 10 seconds? I realise it's sped up, by 50% -100% or so, but not x5.
@@MrBrian465 I'd actually be quite interested in a datasheet with actual farm times compared, INCLUDING downtime from eating/drinking/aggroing. Sure aoe farm is a lot faster if you exclude those, but I'm not 100% sold on the idea. Besides, he fought lower lvl/ undergeared players, but if he was ambushed by another druid or someone else in comparable gear, being so low hp from aoe farm he'd stand no chance.
I remember running through felwood when my spriest was like high 40s and a skull level troll rogue was tryin to jump me. He was probably mid to high 50s based on gear but i got close to killing him. I went oom even with mana pots but i always kept rank 1 swp on my bar and cast it to avoid stealth and was wanding.. Got him to like 20% a few times i guess till he said fk it and left me alone. Moral of the story is... Shadow priests are fucking strong!! Loved leveling ne priest on pvp with shadowmeld etc.. Next time id roll dwarf fem priest.
Imagine getting bullied off a farm by a druid...
only problem is that 40 others are grinding the same spot
Thats the Problem of TH-cam Videos... everyone is farming These "secret Gold farms" just keep those for yourself....
This gave me something to think about. I always play on PvP servers but most of the time I don't attack others I just defend myself. It backfires quite often. You spare some dude at very low life fighting a mob but when he has healed up here he comes attacking you when you are grinding at low health. Not giving a damn about how nice you just were not attacking him.
My worry I guess has been that if I attack and kill them first I'm not going to get any peace grinding afterwards.
It really depends on what stage of the game you are at too. Normally at the very start of Classic people will leave each other alone because people just want to level and the pvp system isn't implemented yet so there is not as much incentive to kill people.
@@Ebbnflow not a chance on stalagg. farms like this are highly contested.
@@Cofg12345 we're not all pussies
This was hugely popular in 2004 on Kel'Thuzad. No one farmed it unless they worked for a gold company. It was a battle zone controlled by Chinese rogues on both factions.. Sometimes a few hunters too. This way, you'd get griefed to open the spawns for both factions of Chinese.
This won't be farmable outside of being a battleground. 5 knplayers. 350+ of them 60 in 1 month tops. 10% of those 350+ fughting to farm in this area alone.
Yeah this area is very popular. On Northdale when the pop. was around 10k There was normally 2-4 people!
always great videos, you and Skarm have collectively converted me to play a druid for classic
Awesome! Druids are so fun
It’s awesome how you show the pvp aspect of farming too and not just a perfect farm while you’re alone. Great video as always!
When you're a druid and you know what you're doing, the smart enemies wont even bother trying to gank you. Not because they can't, but because even if they can, it will take forever.
looks like the mage was casting polymorph on a druid.
"attack those guys and win the fights" dayoum! killer strategy...
What addons do you use to get that nice font?
whats your spec and talents? would appreciate u linking it early on, cheers!
This was a great edited video. Didn't feel like I was watching a 16 min video at all. The tips are solid and the pvp footage makes it so interesting to watch :D
Thanks Viking! Glad you enjoyed it
My two favorite movies are the wizard of oz and aliens. Both teach a valuable lesson about dealing with your enemies.
Kill them.
Hello! Im sorry to bother you, but do you plan on streaming some world pvp before the blizz launch?
this is only doable as horde. alliance are 30:70 ratio on pvp servers so you'll get 3:1'd as alliance.
Ready to roll druid for classic!!
Glad to hear! Druid is the best
Used to run with a group of 4 for farming places. Two farm the area other two kill other faction players. Good times back in vanilla.
Awesome content man. I thoroughly enjoy your style. Your druid videos keep me optimistic about rolling druid or shadow priest for classic. Best of luck and keep it up!
Good video man. I can’t wait to start my Druid in classic.
Comparing the speed to the Hunter kill speed was a good idea. I think a little bit more of that comparison would be good in the future. Great vid, keep it up Ebbn.
For people playing classic. You wont do nearly as much damage as him. Lvl 60 druid here with some tier 1 gear. I heal half as much. Also, this does not work on medium servers because stuff does not sell at all.
Yeah you never been to whitemane
"but little does he know that I'm hunting him" haha. Absolutely loving your Videos man!
With a name like Redbully. I would never give a pass.
That wolf at the entrance is MVP :D
Great vid
right? he helped me multiple times :)
Love this extended video! Atleast i enjoy this more then 4min speed guides!^^
in classic you dont pull them like that ^^ and droprate is not high, you make less than 8g an hour (felcloth 1g80)
give it time. Ive seen felcloth go 2g and 2 days later up to 6g per. (My opinion): Most classic players are full time workers. School peeps yeah but not as much an impact from 6pm-11pm server. I wait till the weekend when servers full. During the week server is never above medium. As for drop rate yeah its a lil underwhelming when 4 mobs in a row have 0 loot.
CLEAN EM UP
I remember farming the shit outta felcloth there as a lock.
Not a droood but your vids show how actually effective druids are in open world , such an awesome rp class to play with that moonglade stuff too
That would be crazy on a pvp server. I've made thousands of gold in that area. Never had to worry about being ganked.
you dont actually show on map where its at, and you even pull up ur map and close it so fast no one can see it. not sure how this is not an obvious thing to consider making a video on where to farm.
Could have saved so much time not pvping at all until threatened.....more farming time more money.
I farmed this area on shaman and hunter. On my hunter I could kill them as fast as they spawned, and this was with shit gear.
Thats funny felcloth are 2 gold on my server and dark runes are 10 to 12 gold deveit delight
Yeah a lesson for the "nice guys" out there: DO NOT leave lower players alone, especially healers. Often times they will not pick a fight with you (obv reasons) but as soon as you get into a fight with a level 60 they pay you back for leaving them be for 30 mins by jumping in to help the guy fighting you.
Also, the fact that the 53 is a Corp and the 60 Mage is a Pvt says something... I think that mage is used to losing.
That mage looked like a gold farmer and not pvp player based on how he reacted to you lol
As a druid I also basically lived in that zone (real and pservers). Even if bored of farming, the pvp was fun. Tons of raid farm items there do you get players with good gear on but also get to see who are pvp'rs and who are just raid loggers.
Yeah I love Felwood, its a great zone.
Or just play on a normal server lol
Warlocks: These mobs are green so they will yield Soul Shards
which server? i'd like to check out your gear on Legacyplayer ;c
Tested this on a dungeon geared holy pally and I can usually pull 4-5 with holy wrath and consecration
Lol the dislikes are from people who get ganked in Felwood XD
Molten Core gear isn't crazy good? Then what is at this stage of Classic? JEESH!
For some classes it is good for others it isn't unless you are the spec that matches up with the gear that drops. For Paladins/Druids that aren't healers and Warriors that aren't tanks there isn't much for them.
@@robertp457 Thank you for the clarification.
check shadow. He even didnt have own tier gear
Felcloth is 1,5g ea on my server lol.
Jami that’s so cheap. Might as well just farm Essence of water .
@@Turtlemilk Yeah indeed. Farming the Ogre Warlocks at Deadwind Pass is pretty nice cash. About 30g/h from just the gold, silk and grays and there's a change to get an enchating pattern that sells for 150g-250g
what i dont understand is how you dont take pushbak while channeling huricane
barkskin
Any Druid who attacks another Druid is trash
great video! just wondering what spec your running in this ? looks like a moonglow hyrbid spec?
nvm you mentioned it at the end :D got it
Your content always gets me even more hyped for classic! Can't wait...
Rule #1... get a friend and gank that F'r.
That human mage payed actor kekw
What is the addon showing the cooldown on the debuff on that druid's lifebar?
Been farming this on my rogue and vendoring everything besides felcloth that sells for 3g a pop on my server. I get probably 40g per hour before I sell felcloth mabe almost 200g in about 4 hrs edit: also I farm jadefire glen has alot less people that come around
Which it be a balance rotation spec?
the spot is fucking packed dude
Awesome video, man. Love the informative combined with the style of "day-in-the-life" of a PVP realm druid. Really let's me feel like that could be me playing while watching you. Keep it up!
Your kodo can sure twerk it!
This is one of those pserver things that doesnt work in retail. Cheers pserver kids
works in classic you sperg
@@markymark5887 you go have fun fighting 30 people for 1g felcloth on ass drop rates. Lmk how it goes, send photos love
Bad idea. 2 Felcloth for 70 mobs
Good stuff thanks for vid, one question though. did you do this in moonglow spec or heart of the wild spec? i often find it hard to do AOE pulls and resort to going bear and swipe which makes process so much slower. Atm running heart of wild spec / resto spec.
I wish you could impede your own faction players who are farming your spots. Like drop a tel abim banana peel
So what role do you take in raiding with HOTW+NS build. I'm going to be rolling a druid for my main on classic but was a priest in vanilla. I like the healer hybrid build. But does it qualify as healer or more spot heals/dps
This is how i got my Epic mount in two days. Was early high level so spot was not contested but now it’s crowded as fuck
In a nearly 20 minute long video you couldn't show the map and where it was? ;_;
May want to mention why the runes are so special.
They are like a life tap, trade health for some mana. But they also do not share a cool down with mana pots so if you are having problems with mana while raiding you can pop both a pot and a rune back to back for a lot of mana.
I farmed these on my priest in Vanilla.
The rogues always stun me out of barkskin/hurricane early, I also don’t seem to have enough damage to get them in one hurricane. Do I need better gear?
Except thanks to videos like this half the server is there now, this spot is no longer valid.
stop telling everyone
Awesome to see this in detail - thanks Ebn
No problem George!
am a rogue and i farm other places but what to Point out that fel cloth sell for 2 g
Hey man i rly Love you video . Could you pls make a video where you make a Pvp Pve resto build ? Or maybe you already have one .
What addon did u use to change font, or replaced blizzards own in files?
hi ebb!
I have a question, is it better to "rush" the quests / grinde for a faster up, and turn around with items that drop in the way, or better stop up to run behind items, at certain lvls?
Always put leveling ahead of getting certain items or quest rewards. You can always come back later. Druid is very gear independent.
I think I was grinding there on my warlock in vanilla from 55-58 or something, I had all the felcloth for my robe if the void while getting XP cloth and gold ...But I was playing a but late into vanilla so it wasn't that dense from enemy players. Probably it will be packed in classic launch .
hum, I would have thought hunter would have farmed quicker
Back in vanilla I'd farm here regularly with my warlock (and at the nearby firbolg village). I was on a PVE server, and I've been thinking I might try a PVP server when Classic rolls out, but after watching your video I'm back on the fence. :-P
It's your loss. World PvP is fun.
how do you have pvp gear there is no honor yet?
Hi, I would like to ask, is this possible to aoe farm with deep feral spec with just some int gear ?
Yeah, its all about the mana pool. You won't have insect swarm so it could be a bit more challenging.
Can you aoe grind these as a lock?
Does it work for Warriors Right now in Classic too?
I got more into the pvp part. That looked fun. thnx for vid. Kay
how do you avoid the mind control from the tricksters? i try to aoe down as mage but i alwasy get mind controlled and lose them all
Roll undead like a man
What build are you using?
Great videos. Can I ask how much can earn per hour in general?
great video. what are you doing while hurricane is on CD?
Drinking up, since it is one minute and by the time you cast the spell + kill and loot the mobs you only have 20-40 sec left on the cooldown but you still have to drink. So it should be up every pull.
Love it Ebbn keep up the classic videos. seems everyone has gone dark since beta ended
wow great video !! ty
You are hunting a lvl 53 druid as a 60. Wow, you're such a great player, well played. Sarcasm obviously.
4 year old video. This is a dumb spot to farm at anymore. Sorry I'm bad at a game, enjoy life buddy.
dirtbag
What exactly are you farming here?
Gold. Felcloth is the only thing worth putting o the AH. Also go to jadefire glen. You get mageweave Instead of runecloth (which sells better on my server) but it's never contested and more mobs
Awesome video
Nice video, that was also my favorite farming spot in vanilla as a druid.
Not for long
vid starts @3:17
bro youre blowing out our spot lol
He is rubbing his hands, this will fuel his pvp rank when he kills em :)
Great content as always!
4:07 starts aggroing satyrs, 4:49 finishes killing all of them, then waits for mana 20 seconds, total 5 satyrs killed, roughly 1 min time spent, including resting. Gets really low on mana and risks dying to decently geared enemies.
12:30 starts killing satyrs in catform, 13:03 killed 4 satyrs, high mana and health so no need to rest. HOW is this slower than the aoe method? Not only this but your mana will never be low since it's regening it in catform, so you're unlikely to be caught off-guard.
Vartosu did you not realize the melee one was sped up like 5 times lmao
@@MrBrian465 if it was by 5 times, at 12:52 healing touch took 2 seconds, are you trying to say it has a cast time of 10 seconds? I realise it's sped up, by 50% -100% or so, but not x5.
Vartosu it was maybe 1.5 seconds, and the original cast time is 3.5. Over 2 times speed. My point still stands.
@@MrBrian465 I'd actually be quite interested in a datasheet with actual farm times compared, INCLUDING downtime from eating/drinking/aggroing. Sure aoe farm is a lot faster if you exclude those, but I'm not 100% sold on the idea. Besides, he fought lower lvl/ undergeared players, but if he was ambushed by another druid or someone else in comparable gear, being so low hp from aoe farm he'd stand no chance.
Brian he is In Moonglow spec so I know he is not casting 3.5 second healing touches
this is how i got my epic mount back in vanilla. love this spot
13:45 giggity~~
I remember running through felwood when my spriest was like high 40s and a skull level troll rogue was tryin to jump me. He was probably mid to high 50s based on gear but i got close to killing him. I went oom even with mana pots but i always kept rank 1 swp on my bar and cast it to avoid stealth and was wanding.. Got him to like 20% a few times i guess till he said fk it and left me alone.
Moral of the story is... Shadow priests are fucking strong!! Loved leveling ne priest on pvp with shadowmeld etc.. Next time id roll dwarf fem priest.
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