What a beautiful b12 right there, one of my favorite L.N.E.R tender engines. I hope the price wasn't too rough for a great model for that. Love the grand video Sam, and keep at it in due future times.
Well I'm very impressed with the B12, I had one of the original Triang models. As I remember,it was quite well equipped with Magnadhesion and Syncrosmoke . I didn't have any problems with it other the body cracking across the securing screwhole. I can't remember what happened to it, more than likely sold by my parents when I got into motorcycles. Happy memories.
It’s been a very long time since you’ve reviewed the Hornby B12! I remember watching that video a couple of times on your channel before and the model is outstanding! 😃
I had a brief scare with my Hornby B12 today. While I was running it with 6 older Hornby Teaks it slowed down and started spewing smoke from the boiler! I thought for a second the motor was fried, but then I remembered UK-market locos have EMI suppression capacitors. Lo & behold, after taking it apart, I found a burnt-out cap! I've removed it and now the B12 is once again running as pretty as it looks!
Ahh phew - I've had that before too with a county! Worth replacing that capacitor though - they reduce arcing on the motor commutator, and help to extend their lives! You can buy them on Ebay cheap enough, higher value the better! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam, just got my son his first B12 and was wondering if you had experienced that the middle wheel on the tender sometimes didn’t move as his does. Tried to look at the close up on the video and it looked like yours was the same. Is this correct or should they all move all the time?? Great channel and keep up the good work.
Is it me or do British steam locomotives have a certain “charm” to them? I mean don’t get me wrong I like most steam locos but the British ones somehow stand out to me. Anyway great review!
I think its to with their proportions due to the smaller loading gauge historically and still to a large extent now on the UK network. Diesel locos are most noticeable. Long, thing and relatively low. Put a class 66 next to lets say an gp40 or sd40 loco from the US. Their basically the same loco underneath but the 66 is packaged much more neatly.
Loved this review Sam, and your advice to Bachmann and Heljan over the benefits of a decent mechanism. Wonderful to see it pull the rake of 7 coaches up Gordon's Hill with no problem. I might invest in the black livery version.
The 'back-of-the-box' info on this one I find very interesting. I'm glad Sam is re-reviewing these. I've only been here about a year or so. As a US broadcaster (NBC) once said to promote it's reruns, "If you haven't seen it, it's new to you."
Wow! I am a personal fan of the B12 class because it just looks really cool. Also, if you’re familiar with the fan-made story of Alfred, the “B12” class (his class isn’t really defined but he looks like a B12), yeah, that’s also a factor. Anyway nice vid Sam! Amazing model! Thanks!!
Omg at 17:56 when the B12 coupled up to those coaches, all I found think about was that Thomas and friends coupling sound from the older model series XD
Beautiful model Sam! Such lovely engines and we’re lucky to have a preserved example! In fact, the preserved example is the only preserved British 4-6-0 steam engine with inside cylinders!
It's 2021; just bought one of these here in the US for $173 USD. Expensive, but still a great value for the money: all metal body, dual flywheels, fantastic detailing.... btw, my body fits 100% correct on the frame, and there are no missing bits, no glue marks, etc. Just 100% high quality assembly. Why can't they ALL be this good....?
I just bought one of these on the strength of this review. Looking closely through a loupe everything is perfect. The metal boiler joint underneath is spot on as is the lining, paint, no glue marks, and running. 10/10 I put some flat adhesive automotive wheel weights inside the tender as it only weighs 50g stock. Keep an eye out for eBay 20% and 15% promotional dealer discount codes. I got mine for the usual £145 less 20% paid by eBay and another 2.5% off going through a cashback site (Quidco) making it the best value new loco I've ever bought!
Hi Sam, A very classy loco. I was pulled by the one on the North Norfolk Railway. Agreeing with your previous comments on the LNER Apple Green and white lined livery it does look very good. As always a great review. Stay Safe
Hi Sam! After your review on the incredible Bachmann 37, I went ahead and picked up the class 40! I highly recommend it as it is practically the same in terms of quality and performance. The prices of them vary although I'm sure at some point you'll be able to find a good deal on hattons 😉. I'd also like to bring up the attention of the Bachmann deltic as this is just as good! Seems that all round Bachmann diesel range are pretty awesome! Thanks!
Hi Sam nice video love them all when is the next live season I have been paying a lot of train simulator games on Roblox today wish the weekends where longer than 2 days got to go to school Monday
my grandad built me one of these out of an old broomstick- my, this brings back so many memories (I actually have it sitting next to me as I write this)! I named it Alfred after the Thomas and Friends OC.
Yeah, he had a spare broomstick and some dowels lying around and he and I spent an afternoon making Alfred. I was 8 at the time so the painting was a bit sloppy, but it has charm and that's all that matters.
Hiya - I have 2 similar Loco's - BR 4-6-0 B17/2 'Welbeck Abbey' No. 61619 (R3448) & 'Westham United' No.61672 (Which came in the set called "East Coast Express" R1214). It says on the back that in 1926 with increased loading on the E. Anglia passenger services & the introduction of modern, vacuum-braked coaching stock, there was a desperate need for a loco that could supplement the Holden B12 Class on the former G. E. routes of the L. N. E. R.
Hi Sam. A couple of things I noticed that you didn't comment on. 1) There was a line along the top of the boiler (where the rivets were); I don't know whether this is a manufacturing fault, or was an original feature. 2) You appear to have gone back to your old Gaugemaster controller - what's going on there?
Hey Paul! Yes you're right about the line - some locos do have a join there in real life, but I was unable to find a photo of the real thing from above, so it gets the benefit of the doubt. I'll only criticise that if it's egregious, or stretches the entire length of the body: firebox to smokebox (in which case, it can't possibly be accurate). I sometimes upload videos out of sequence; this one was filmed before I swapped controllers! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yep got one of these and they are remarkable locomotives, possibly one of Hornby's best. Think I got mine for around £122 mark but was kicking myself for putting of buying it for so long as I could have got it for £116 from Hornby's own outlet shop in Swindon which has now sadly closed.
Beautiful sam, when hornby gets it right not much out there can touch them, just been running my battle of Britain 34077 which got lost in my collection, forgotten how nice it is , great review 👍
98462. Or “Alfred” was a LNER B12 purchased by the north western railway somewhere around the 1920s. And was only seen a few times in the railway series. We are later told he was taken back to the mainland.
I'm not a model railway enthusiast however always view your vids as they give excellent insight into the hobby which you clearly love. Question: why don't you fit the 'detail parts'?
Thanks so much Geoff, that's great to hear! I prefer to keep my models in as-new condition where possible... plus I'm a bit clumsy where glue is concerned! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
hi sam after i saw your review im now getting the b12 for christmas also i went on that train irl the day we came out of the last lockdown in sherrigham it runs 1 every 2 weeks there on the poppy line holt to sherringham and the other way round
I've got the vintage tri-ang one of these, which is weathered... i didn't know it was possible to make a basic loco detailed... but Hornby managed it!!
Ahh fantastic Will, I have a few tri-ang ones too and I love them! Yes these are a huge step up, though I'm still fond of the old version! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What about Gordon, the LNER A3 Pacific , or Spencer, the LNER A4 Pacific, the A3 and the A4 are the most famous LNER class engines in history. Maybe you should’ve put Spencer, the A4 class you have, or Gordon running with the Alfred, B12, since he’s had a appearance in the railway series.
Always liked the B12, was my first model Steam engine I had (first model train being a Hornby Cl91 in Intercity) so does bring back memories, might see if I can get the Union Mills one for N Gauge when things clear up a little, already got some teaks for it to haul around! Great video as always Sam! ~James
Hi Sam awesome video. hope you don't mind me asking but what camera and lenses do you use for your close ups? I was just thinking about that the other day 🤔
Hello! I have this exact model with a different running number, and I’m currently trying to fix it. The motor works perfectly, but the engine runs inconsistently. I saw that one of the plungers that collects electricity from the base keeper plate is lower than it should be. Does anyone know how to fix that?
Search me. But according to YTPGR-13 which stands for Yorktown Tennessee Pearl General Reunion fans-13, Sam, we need to think this question through. When will the L&YR class 8 4-6-0 be released?
Hey Sam, what happened to your original B12 review, I tried to find it in your reviews playlist, but couldn’t find it anywhere, can you please tell me what happened to it?
It’s a beautiful locomotive in a beautiful livery! In my opinion, non-streamlined LNER locomotives look amazing in Apple Green! Of course, A4s look lovely in all the liveries LNER applied to them. BR Black was an obvious money saving measure & BR Green looks like the GWR bought out the other 3 of the Big Four! On a mechanical note, why doesn’t Bachmann take notice of their competitors attention to quality mechanisms in steamers too?
Hi Sam! Love the video (and especially the B12)! I was wondering if you had any plans on buying one of the EFE rail Beattie Well tanks at some point in the future, although the cheapest I have found it is £118!
Very nice quality! I have a question about these “namm” couplers (if I’m writing that name correctly...). On high-end American model trains the couplers are realistic and true to prototype in using claw couplers, but it seems (to me anyway) that on British model trains the couplers are nothing like the real ones. Am I correct in that or am I missing something? I’ve basically learned about British railroads and models from watching you and an email blog I get form another source. Thanks as always!
Thanks Ken! Yes they're NEM couplers, yes the British model couplings are nothing like the real things, because the knuckle couplers weren't used in the UK - we used screw-link couplings which aren't practical in model form for most people :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)
i have to agree that this is a first class locomotive. I have a BR black version and I'm very tempted to buy another. Btw, I have to ask, why is there a wagon on the grass by Gordon's Hill?.
Not that much of a fan of LNER locos, but that livery looks most definitely stunning (especially with the teak coaches), and the way it went round that weird bit of Gordon's Hill? Flippin' impressive. Were I not specifically hunting for SR stock, I'd probably cop this. Great video as always. :)
Hi Sam, It looks from the side shots that the front of the loco is bending upwards quite a bit, which would explain why the bottom of the boiler doesn't fit flush.
One for my Xmas List Sam . Like to buy my Locos from the Model shop where you can inspect your loco out of the box before purchase . Nice review as always Sam takecare.
The covered axels are a little too covered. The B12 had/have a metal cover over axel. I’d also say, by doing the boiler in metal, the wash out plugs don’t have any detail in them, they just looks lumps. That aside however its stunning model to look at, and having worked on 8572 on many a glorious day on the footplate, it’s mostly very accurate. Only thing that put me off buying one, is it’s so detailed, and my experience’s with Hornby is that will all fall off in seconds. I don’t say that to be snide at Hornby either. But Iv let down so many times by them with previous models. It caused me not to buy this model, despite this being one of my favourite locos to work on. So Sam, how flimsy is the detail on it? Simply because I want to buy one, but seeing the smoke box dart missing, hasn’t allayed my concern that I’d be wasting my money.
Thanks a lot for sharing - good point about the washout plugs, I can see what you mean! All modern locos are pretty fragile, but this one isn't any worse than the rest! The smokebox dart is unfortunate - though that was beyond my control. Provided yours has one from the start, and you're careful with it, you shouldn't have a problem! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yes that's right - that's not how it came as new - while servicing, I sometimes adjust pickups to make better contact with the wheel - I went a bit too far with that one! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam take a look at the two BR versions of this loco. they have both painted smoke doors with runing numbers in BR`s number system. And the lner loco does not have the smoke box painted on the photos at hatton`s. and yes i think that lner one is prototypical it is the same thing with the BR ones. 👍👍👍👍
I remember seeing that locomotives on some TH-cam channel and the videos were made in train Sim 2009 every time that locomotive will show up they'll play some music from the 16 century and it had an evil face on that this is bringing back memories from watching that channel
i love the look of nem couplings but mine just fall of and get stuck in the track and makes my other locos fall over btw sam i have the a4 seagul , P2 cock o the north , A1 tornado (limited edition livery) A1 flying scotsman (triang) , smokey joe ( centeray ) and some which im trying to find the name also soon to have a b12
So Sam, the Model Rail Center is currently selling D16s for 76 pounds, is that a good deal? I mean, for that price, you might as well get one :). TMRC has a lot of good deals on stuff right now actually, including J50s for less than 60 pounds!
Thanks William - I just had a look - seems there's some good deals! I have 2 D16s already, so I probably shouldn't buy any more! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I am lucky enough to get to play with the real one of these - number 8572 - at the North Norfolk Railway, where I volunteer. She is the star of the fleet, helped by being unique, but also looking like everybody's ideal steam loco. LNER green being a big part of that. Not an easy colour to keep clean, especially the boiler. I wonder why Hornby chose not to model 8572?
Ooh lucky you Ian - that's fantastic! I can imagine it being very tricky to maintain that lovely green! That's a good question - did they not do that one?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That's great to hear! They're the power classifications - the higher the number, the more powerful the loco. F is freight, P is passenger. Both means mixed traffic! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Alfred is a character from The Railway Series based on that locomotive,but he only appeared in the picture of "the shed" that was in a blue livery with red lining(In "Edward's Day Out")
The B12 has been a fan favourite for decades, and this model truly encapsulates the charm and appeal of the class.
Alfred.
That should get me a lot of likes...
There you go! I've started you off! ;D
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What a beautiful b12 right there, one of my favorite L.N.E.R tender engines.
I hope the price wasn't too rough for a great model for that.
Love the grand video Sam, and keep at it in due future times.
I agree - they're wonderful aren't they?! Thank you! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains i just now noticed watching it again for the 3rd time, at 17:42 the middle tender wheels locked up, and stayed that way.
I absolutely Love the B12, Or as ther were originally classified as The Class s69. Its definitely my top favorite British Steam locomotive.
I already have a b12 (well 2 actually) and they run splendidly, glad your reviewing one :)
Great to hear that - they're such good runners! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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@@grooviestglobe4907 If you're going on the internet a lot you are going to be doing an awful lot of corrections. lol
Well I'm very impressed with the B12, I had one of the original Triang models. As I remember,it was quite well equipped with Magnadhesion and Syncrosmoke . I didn't have any problems with it other the body cracking across the securing screwhole. I can't remember what happened to it, more than likely sold by my parents when I got into motorcycles. Happy memories.
When I heard the name B12.... I just thinking about Alfred from Thomas and Friends Fan made the Fallen B12 No. 3
haha yeah - everyone thinks that! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains When will the L&YR Class 8 4-6-0 be released?
@@SamsTrains I tell you, “When will the L&YR Class 8 4-6-0 be released?”
Are you already watch the story of alfred 3
@@akaputra.p2049 No.
It’s been a very long time since you’ve reviewed the Hornby B12! I remember watching that video a couple of times on your channel before and the model is outstanding! 😃
Yeah it has, almost 4 years ago now! It really is a good one! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You cannot beat this sort of mechanism absolute beauty of a runner🙂🙂 brilliant review can’t wait to see the mode railway news for this month 🙂🙂
I agree - absolutely top notch! Hope you like the news when it comes! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I had a brief scare with my Hornby B12 today. While I was running it with 6 older Hornby Teaks it slowed down and started spewing smoke from the boiler! I thought for a second the motor was fried, but then I remembered UK-market locos have EMI suppression capacitors. Lo & behold, after taking it apart, I found a burnt-out cap! I've removed it and now the B12 is once again running as pretty as it looks!
Ahh phew - I've had that before too with a county! Worth replacing that capacitor though - they reduce arcing on the motor commutator, and help to extend their lives! You can buy them on Ebay cheap enough, higher value the better!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam vs b12 2: the return of Alfred coming to a TH-cam channel near you
haha love it! xD
@@SamsTrains Sam is there a steam tender engine class called the LNER B1
@@Admm744 Yes... Thompson's 'Bongoes' or Antelopes - and yes, 8306 was called Bongo
Sam, just got my son his first B12 and was wondering if you had experienced that the middle wheel on the tender sometimes didn’t move as his does. Tried to look at the close up on the video and it looked like yours was the same. Is this correct or should they all move all the time?? Great channel and keep up the good work.
Is it me or do British steam locomotives have a certain “charm” to them?
I mean don’t get me wrong I like most steam locos but the British ones somehow stand out to me.
Anyway great review!
Yeah a lot of people think that - you're probably right! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That's because we invented them and know what we are doing. 🙂
I think its to with their proportions due to the smaller loading gauge historically and still to a large extent now on the UK network.
Diesel locos are most noticeable. Long, thing and relatively low. Put a class 66 next to lets say an gp40 or sd40 loco from the US. Their basically the same loco underneath but the 66 is packaged much more neatly.
I agree they just stand out! The American steam locomotives don’t really do it for me, no effence but they don’t have very nice paint work
I agree I think Thomas is what start my love for British locos
Great review, Sam!
The Great Eastern certainly had a knack for designing beautiful engines.
Thanks Ben, yes they did!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Loved this review Sam, and your advice to Bachmann and Heljan over the benefits of a decent mechanism. Wonderful to see it pull the rake of 7 coaches up Gordon's Hill with no problem. I might invest in the black livery version.
haha thanks a lot Pete - yes the performance was amazing, just as it should be!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The 'back-of-the-box' info on this one I find very interesting. I'm glad Sam is re-reviewing these. I've only been here about a year or so. As a US broadcaster (NBC) once said to promote it's reruns, "If you haven't seen it, it's new to you."
Glad you liked that! And yeah, I really enjoy revisiting these once in a while! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow! I am a personal fan of the B12 class because it just looks really cool. Also, if you’re familiar with the fan-made story of Alfred, the “B12” class (his class isn’t really defined but he looks like a B12), yeah, that’s also a factor. Anyway nice vid Sam! Amazing model! Thanks!!
haha yeah I've heard about Alfred - particularly today, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Omg at 17:56 when the B12 coupled up to those coaches, all I found think about was that Thomas and friends coupling sound from the older model series XD
Regular people: sees regular train
Thomas fans: HOLY SHIT ITS ALFRED
haha I know right! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains wait you know the fanmade train alfred
😞I’ve never seen his vids
@@ColeyZilla yeah I think he watched NWR Origins idk
@@ColeyZilla 98462
Beautiful model Sam! Such lovely engines and we’re lucky to have a preserved example! In fact, the preserved example is the only preserved British 4-6-0 steam engine with inside cylinders!
Thanks a lot Ryno - yes I've heard that - quite something isn't it?!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
When I see locos of the quality I can’t help but think
“What would I be like if Heljan made it?”
Lol
If Heljan can make better B12s, I’ll eat my hat! and scarf and gloves.
@@wakefieldtrainlad340 that sounds delicious!
@@alexanderstuff5100 it is with ketchup!
Picture the Tango with the valve gear torn off, and some wheels missing... it'd look like that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It's 2021; just bought one of these here in the US for $173 USD. Expensive, but still a great value for the money: all metal body, dual flywheels, fantastic detailing.... btw, my body fits 100% correct on the frame, and there are no missing bits, no glue marks, etc. Just 100% high quality assembly. Why can't they ALL be this good....?
I don't like being controversial, but I think the B12 looks better in it's GER S69 form. The livery looks better and the overall design is sleeker.
This is my ultimate goal to achieve when I someday make a set up, this is probably my favourite engine overall.
I love the b12s I think I might look in to getting one when I've done my next board
Thanks Lewis - they really are good ones! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I just bought one of these on the strength of this review. Looking closely through a loupe everything is perfect. The metal boiler joint underneath is spot on as is the lining, paint, no glue marks, and running. 10/10
I put some flat adhesive automotive wheel weights inside the tender as it only weighs 50g stock.
Keep an eye out for eBay 20% and 15% promotional dealer discount codes. I got mine for the usual £145 less 20% paid by eBay and another 2.5% off going through a cashback site (Quidco) making it the best value new loco I've ever bought!
Great to hear it was perfect Blakey - and that sounds like a cracking deal!!
Merry Christmas - Sam :)
Great video, you shoyld review the ugears express locomotive. They give you a wooden locomotive to build that is powered by gears and elastic bands
Thanks Lewis, that sounds great - I'll have to look into that!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, A very classy loco. I was pulled by the one on the North Norfolk Railway. Agreeing with your previous comments on the LNER Apple Green and white lined livery it does look very good. As always a great review. Stay Safe
Thanks Leroy, that must have been amazing!! Glad you liked it - stay safe! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great review Sam if I ever get a B12 I’m going to try and get one in LNER green
Awesome! Yeah I think it was the best livery! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I've only seen a B12 in person once when I went to the Bluebell railway and it was beautiful! I think this model does it justice. Great video mate!
Thanks mate, I agree - it certainly does! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
"Bless you' mukka! Bad sneeze that. You had me reaching for my mask 😷 !
Its Bachmann virus it's a terrible virus as you catch it when you pay a expensive price for a steam locomotive with a terrible mechanism.
haha yeah - just don't know what causes these things! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That crawl on this loco is amazing! I could hardly see It moving!
Hi Sam! After your review on the incredible Bachmann 37, I went ahead and picked up the class 40! I highly recommend it as it is practically the same in terms of quality and performance. The prices of them vary although I'm sure at some point you'll be able to find a good deal on hattons 😉. I'd also like to bring up the attention of the Bachmann deltic as this is just as good! Seems that all round Bachmann diesel range are pretty awesome! Thanks!
Ooh fantastic - it's good then?! I'll have to look into it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
And just after I finally purchased a J36 and thought I was done expanding my fleet for a while....
Thanks for yet another great review Sam!
haha yeah! This is definitely the same top quality as the J36! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
13:37 “Stratford 1928”-Das Mann
Good spot mate - thank you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
What a beautiful loco - the poise and elegance... Hornby have done a fantastic job here!
Thanks mate - I agree, they really did! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Keep the great work up Sam!
Hi Sam nice video love them all when is the next live season I have been paying a lot of train simulator games on Roblox today wish the weekends where longer than 2 days got to go to school Monday
Thanks so much Oliver - it's starting again next week! Awhh, I wish that too :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
my grandad built me one of these out of an old broomstick- my, this brings back so many memories (I actually have it sitting next to me as I write this)! I named it Alfred after the Thomas and Friends OC.
haha a broomstick?! That sounds so lovely!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yeah, he had a spare broomstick and some dowels lying around and he and I spent an afternoon making Alfred. I was 8 at the time so the painting was a bit sloppy, but it has charm and that's all that matters.
The best I've seen a b12 for is 12 on rails and it's in beginning nationalization black and it is a deal too bad rails does not ship from hornby
Ooh that sounds amazing! And yes it's a pity about that :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Rails of Sheffield fell out with Hornby this year but Hattons and other model shops still stock hornby products.
Hiya - I have 2 similar Loco's - BR 4-6-0 B17/2 'Welbeck Abbey' No. 61619 (R3448) & 'Westham United' No.61672 (Which came in the set called "East Coast Express" R1214). It says on the back that in 1926 with increased loading on the E. Anglia passenger services & the introduction of modern, vacuum-braked coaching stock, there was a desperate need for a loco that could supplement the Holden B12 Class on the former G. E. routes of the L. N. E. R.
Thanks for sharing mate - those sound lovely!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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Idc but cool
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Well done! :D
You’ve definitely taken a shine to this locomotive. I’m glad there is one B12 still in existence today and running.
Very much so! I'm glad about that too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yes I agree and I’m lucky enough to see it running in the distance from my bedroom window on the NNR
Hi Sam. A couple of things I noticed that you didn't comment on. 1) There was a line along the top of the boiler (where the rivets were); I don't know whether this is a manufacturing fault, or was an original feature. 2) You appear to have gone back to your old Gaugemaster controller - what's going on there?
Hey Paul! Yes you're right about the line - some locos do have a join there in real life, but I was unable to find a photo of the real thing from above, so it gets the benefit of the doubt. I'll only criticise that if it's egregious, or stretches the entire length of the body: firebox to smokebox (in which case, it can't possibly be accurate). I sometimes upload videos out of sequence; this one was filmed before I swapped controllers!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yep got one of these and they are remarkable locomotives, possibly one of Hornby's best. Think I got mine for around £122 mark but was kicking myself for putting of buying it for so long as I could have got it for £116 from Hornby's own outlet shop in Swindon which has now sadly closed.
Great to hear that Rob - I think so too - yeah I saw them go down to £116 too - pity about that :9
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What an amazing runner you got yourself there. I'm getting myself a new A3 through my model railway club either this week or next
Thanks mate - ooh lovely - those are fantastic models too! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great to see such a beautiful engine produced so well and handle so well from Hornby.
Thanks Keith - I agree - a real breath of fresh air!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Beautiful sam, when hornby gets it right not much out there can touch them, just been running my battle of Britain 34077 which got lost in my collection, forgotten how nice it is , great review 👍
Yeah you're right - ahh lovely to hear that, they are great models! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I remember buying mine at the hornby visitor and got it along with a black peckett,
I got the black LNER version!
That sounds awesome - the LNER black looks stunning too! :D
Merry Christmas - Sam :)
I have a question is hornbys flying scottsman a good engine?
Sure! They're fine models! :D
Merry Christmas - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains thanks I will be sure to pick one up! Merry Christmas!
98462. Or “Alfred” was a LNER B12 purchased by the north western railway somewhere around the 1920s. And was only seen a few times in the railway series. We are later told he was taken back to the mainland.
I'm not a model railway enthusiast however always view your vids as they give excellent insight into the hobby which you clearly love.
Question: why don't you fit the 'detail parts'?
Thanks so much Geoff, that's great to hear! I prefer to keep my models in as-new condition where possible... plus I'm a bit clumsy where glue is concerned!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
hi sam after i saw your review im now getting the b12 for christmas also i went on that train irl the day we came out of the last lockdown in sherrigham it runs 1 every 2 weeks there on the poppy line holt to sherringham and the other way round
Ooh amazing Ethan - really hope you enjoy it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A very lovely model of a very elegant design. Many thanks Sam. (Really like your new lenses as well.)
Thanks Mike - glad you liked them mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
The lining on the wheels makes such a difference, especially on lner green locos!
Yeah I agree - it looks great! :D
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I’ve ridden on that one in preservation on the poppy line in Norfolk very handsome locos in my opinion :)
Ooh fantastic - I have too - such lovely engines! :D
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I have been tempted to buy one, if only for the fact the b12 is one of my favourite tender engines in real life.
Sounds good Jamie - they are very good models! :D
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Im buying one!!!! Best loco ive seen In a long while
I wish i had a train set like you but in my country i can't get any of that stuff but i enjoy seeing others enjoy themselves.also stay safe
Ahh sorry to hear that my friend - hope you can get some one day! :D
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Sam, remember that big flywheel machine you made recently? How do you think it would affect locomotive crawling?
I don't think it'd effect the crawling too much!
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Another impressive loco from the Hornby stable Sam...great review as always...Bob
Thanks a lot Bob, really glad you liked it! :D
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I've got the vintage tri-ang one of these, which is weathered... i didn't know it was possible to make a basic loco detailed... but Hornby managed it!!
Ahh fantastic Will, I have a few tri-ang ones too and I love them! Yes these are a huge step up, though I'm still fond of the old version!
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What about Gordon, the LNER A3 Pacific , or Spencer, the LNER A4 Pacific, the A3 and the A4 are the most famous LNER class engines in history. Maybe you should’ve put Spencer, the A4 class you have, or Gordon running with the Alfred, B12, since he’s had a appearance in the railway series.
Yeah those are all amazing too - love those! :D
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Always liked the B12, was my first model Steam engine I had (first model train being a Hornby Cl91 in Intercity) so does bring back memories, might see if I can get the Union Mills one for N Gauge when things clear up a little, already got some teaks for it to haul around!
Great video as always Sam!
~James
Ahh fantastic James - what a great way to start off in the hobby!! :D
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I've been looking for a good b12 model. I need some recommendations. This is a lovely engine and it's pretty much an iconic design
Oh sure - this is the best one ever, no doubt about it!
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Hi Sam awesome video. hope you don't mind me asking but what camera and lenses do you use for your close ups? I was just thinking about that the other day 🤔
Hey Thomas, I use a Nikon D750 and quite a variety of lenses. I use extension tubes for the real macro shots! :D
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Hello! I have this exact model with a different running number, and I’m currently trying to fix it. The motor works perfectly, but the engine runs inconsistently. I saw that one of the plungers that collects electricity from the base keeper plate is lower than it should be. Does anyone know how to fix that?
Search me. But according to YTPGR-13 which stands for Yorktown Tennessee Pearl General Reunion fans-13, Sam, we need to think this question through. When will the L&YR class 8 4-6-0 be released?
That's one beautiful looking locomotive. I've a Hornby B17 which I'm really impressed with but would like to get one of these.
Thanks mate, the Hornby B17 is lovely too! :D
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Hey Sam, what happened to your original B12 review, I tried to find it in your reviews playlist, but couldn’t find it anywhere, can you please tell me what happened to it?
This one replaced it mate - it covers the model in much more detail than the old one! :)
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It’s a beautiful locomotive in a beautiful livery! In my opinion, non-streamlined LNER locomotives look amazing in Apple Green! Of course, A4s look lovely in all the liveries LNER applied to them. BR Black was an obvious money saving measure & BR Green looks like the GWR bought out the other 3 of the Big Four!
On a mechanical note, why doesn’t Bachmann take notice of their competitors attention to quality mechanisms in steamers too?
Thanks Ewan, I think they do too! I don't know the answer to that - I wish they did!!
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Hi Sam! Love the video (and especially the B12)! I was wondering if you had any plans on buying one of the EFE rail Beattie Well tanks at some point in the future, although the cheapest I have found it is £118!
Thanks so much Oscar - yeah I do plan to review one of those! :D
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Very nice quality! I have a question about these “namm” couplers (if I’m writing that name correctly...). On high-end American model trains the couplers are realistic and true to prototype in using claw couplers, but it seems (to me anyway) that on British model trains the couplers are nothing like the real ones. Am I correct in that or am I missing something? I’ve basically learned about British railroads and models from watching you and an email blog I get form another source. Thanks as always!
Thanks Ken! Yes they're NEM couplers, yes the British model couplings are nothing like the real things, because the knuckle couplers weren't used in the UK - we used screw-link couplings which aren't practical in model form for most people :(
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i have to agree that this is a first class locomotive. I have a BR black version and I'm very tempted to buy another. Btw, I have to ask, why is there a wagon on the grass by Gordon's Hill?.
Great to hear that Les - I've been tempted by the BR black version myself, looks amazing!
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Not that much of a fan of LNER locos, but that livery looks most definitely stunning (especially with the teak coaches), and the way it went round that weird bit of Gordon's Hill? Flippin' impressive. Were I not specifically hunting for SR stock, I'd probably cop this.
Great video as always. :)
Thanks a lot mate - I think so too - they did such a good job on this one! :D
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Sam how often should you lubricate/service your locomotives?
I'd recommend every 6 months to a year, depending on how often they're run! :D
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Hi Sam,
It looks from the side shots that the front of the loco is bending upwards quite a bit, which would explain why the bottom of the boiler doesn't fit flush.
Yes it does look as though the body doesn't fit on properly - but I can't figure out why - I've re-seated it many times :(
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Nice lens on your camera makes all the difference, thank you. Nice loco too.
Thanks Drew, glad you could see a difference! :D
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I love the b12 and i got it for christmas last year. I enjoy watching the real b12 at sheringham
That's fantastic - glad you got one too!! :D
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One for my Xmas List Sam . Like to buy my Locos from the Model shop where you can inspect your loco out of the box before purchase . Nice review as always Sam takecare.
Cheers Michael! That's good to hear - probably a bonus being able to do that isn't it? ;D
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Lovely loco Sam..hard to believe its 4 years old. A fair score I thought too. Nice one..all the best.
I know - the time has just flown!!
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The covered axels are a little too covered. The B12 had/have a metal cover over axel. I’d also say, by doing the boiler in metal, the wash out plugs don’t have any detail in them, they just looks lumps. That aside however its stunning model to look at, and having worked on 8572 on many a glorious day on the footplate, it’s mostly very accurate.
Only thing that put me off buying one, is it’s so detailed, and my experience’s with Hornby is that will all fall off in seconds. I don’t say that to be snide at Hornby either. But Iv let down so many times by them with previous models. It caused me not to buy this model, despite this being one of my favourite locos to work on.
So Sam, how flimsy is the detail on it? Simply because I want to buy one, but seeing the smoke box dart missing, hasn’t allayed my concern that I’d be wasting my money.
Yes , the smokebox dart has fallen off this one. What's next.
Thanks a lot for sharing - good point about the washout plugs, I can see what you mean! All modern locos are pretty fragile, but this one isn't any worse than the rest! The smokebox dart is unfortunate - though that was beyond my control. Provided yours has one from the start, and you're careful with it, you shouldn't have a problem! :D
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18:35 You appear to have a brake dragging on the centre axle of the tender. The P/W guys will love you. LOL
it happens when the pickups press too hard on the wheels.
Yes that's right - that's not how it came as new - while servicing, I sometimes adjust pickups to make better contact with the wheel - I went a bit too far with that one!
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Sam take a look at the two BR versions of this loco.
they have both painted smoke doors with runing numbers in BR`s number system.
And the lner loco does not have the smoke box painted on the photos at hatton`s.
and yes i think that lner one is prototypical it is the same thing with the BR ones.
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Yes you're right - there are differences in the various liveries, and Hornby did get them right! :D
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I loved that end shot ngl
haha thank you, glad you liked it! :D
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what a fine machine its good that hornby are redoing some locos i just pray for a revamped n2 tank
I agree - an N2 would be epic!! :D
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@@SamsTrains was sad about hornby blue br a4 review very poor qaulity control
The missing dart seems to be a common thing with Hornby's locos in the last 5 or so years. My B1 and J15 were both missing theirs when new.
Yes, I've seen it a few times - pity about that :(
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I remember seeing that locomotives on some TH-cam channel and the videos were made in train Sim 2009 every time that locomotive will show up they'll play some music from the 16 century and it had an evil face on that this is bringing back memories from watching that channel
Ooh that's awesome - thanks for sharing, haha! :D
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Hi Sam, It's a lot better than the one I have, love the crawl , All the Best Brian 🤗
Thanks a lot Brian - yeah the crawl was amazing! :D
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LNER can be the pride of the line, also im subscribed and i liked the video
Yes indeed - thanks so much, glad you enjoyed it! :D
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One of my most favorite lner engines at 3rd place in my favorite list first place A4 2nd place The P2
Just 0.01 off a top 5 placing! What a great loco...might be one for the Christmas short list!
haha yeah - it's a stunner isn't it?! :D
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i love the look of nem couplings but mine just fall of and get stuck in the track and makes my other locos fall over btw sam i have the a4 seagul , P2 cock o the north , A1 tornado (limited edition livery) A1 flying scotsman (triang) , smokey joe ( centeray ) and some which im trying to find the name also soon to have a b12
Yes some locos are like that unfortunately - you can glue them in place if they keep dropping out!
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So Sam, the Model Rail Center is currently selling D16s for 76 pounds, is that a good deal? I mean, for that price, you might as well get one :). TMRC has a lot of good deals on stuff right now actually, including J50s for less than 60 pounds!
Thanks William - I just had a look - seems there's some good deals! I have 2 D16s already, so I probably shouldn't buy any more! ;D
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I can't believe this loco have a metal boiler and looks as good as the O gauge terrier nice re reveiw
I agree - incredible isn't it?! :D
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What a excellent loco and a very fair review well done Sam.
Thanks a lot Tony! :D
I’m watching a wartime black version on eBay. If I do get it it will be my first tender engine.
I am lucky enough to get to play with the real one of these - number 8572 - at the North Norfolk Railway, where I volunteer. She is the star of the fleet, helped by being unique, but also looking like everybody's ideal steam loco. LNER green being a big part of that. Not an easy colour to keep clean, especially the boiler. I wonder why Hornby chose not to model 8572?
Ooh lucky you Ian - that's fantastic! I can imagine it being very tricky to maintain that lovely green! That's a good question - did they not do that one?!
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The B12 is one of my favorite locomotives. What does the 4P3F and other codes on the back of Hornby boxes mean?
That's great to hear! They're the power classifications - the higher the number, the more powerful the loco. F is freight, P is passenger. Both means mixed traffic! :D
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Ayy you did a review on Alfred the Holden b12 (pretty much) quite fine engines
haha yeah I did!! They are very fine! :D
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@@SamsTrains could you do a review on a GER LNER J70
Alfred is a character from The Railway Series based on that locomotive,but he only appeared in the picture of "the shed" that was in a blue livery with red lining(In "Edward's Day Out")
Yeah I heard about that - very cool stuff! :D
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