3080s msrp is 805$ when adjusted for inflation in 2023… 4070 ti gives 30 - 40% better performance while using significantly less power and has frame Gen AT THE SAME PRICE POINT. This is a GOOD Gen on Gen improvement. What do you not understand here????
imagine crying about a 1 second drop to 50 ish fps on extreme settings in 4k when jumping in water. Meanwhile i'm still on my GTX 970 playing games at 1080p on lowest to mid settings with 40ish fps sometimes. 60+FPS would be a dream for me.
The 4070ti is memory bottlenecked at 4k, because it only has a 192 bit memory bus, that's why it lacks behind at higher resolutions but is great at lower resolutions
For 192 bit memory bus and 504GB/s of bandwidth i thought it would be far worse to be honest, the 7900 XT which is the direct competitor of this card has a 320 bit memory bus with 800Gb/s bandwidth but the performance gap isn't that large
And that's why it should have cost 599$ at most. The rtx 3070 ti has 256bit memory bus and it was priced for 599$ and it was still overpriced for the performance compare to the rtx 3070. Ideally the current 70ti card should have lower MSRP than the rtx 3070 ti, but it's Nvidia and we all know that they really effective at milking their fanboys...
But in reality, 4070 Ti is marketed for 1440p, but it has more frames than a 3080 in 4K. And yeah, 3080 wasn't even a high-refresh 4K gpu, more like for 50 or 60-ish frames. Conclusion; never trust marketing.
Seems like Frame Generation is the only real reason to upgrade to the 40 series, but with the disgusting price gouging, it's not worth it at ALL right now
not even worth it that much to begin with considering it's still only in a handful of games and it still needs some kinks ironed out. hopefully dlss 4 will be a far better improvement over 3 like how 2 was with 1
@@thewtfverse9763 DLSS 3 makes a HUGE difference, and I can tell that. In games, you won't even notice the "bad images" or whatever, because the game is so fast with it. You had to stare at the screen for minutes to find something corrupted.
It is good for it's price point . It's more cheaper than a 3090ti, 3090, 3080 and far more superior but not really that good in 4k. But hey not all of us here can't live with 50 fps or 60fps, and not all of us here game at 4k cause it's expensive
@@semp224 i recently tried GTA 5 on 4K with 50 and 60 fps settings. Difference is really noticeable. I don't want to play games at 1080 or even 2k. Nowadays 4K 60 fps should be a minimum to play on.
@@IronMan-jj2fd bit bus isn’t generation dependent unless you go back really far. 2060ti had the same bus width and 3060, a mid range, had the same. 30 series was the only gen to have more bit bus at 60ti
I guess at this point we can all agree that this is a pretty good card even for 4k RT, the only thing off is the price, I guess that between 150 and 250 lower than msrp would be more than a steal and probably the biggest enemy of all the GPUs currently out, but yeah... we probably can only dream of that.
@@zWORMzGaming Wished I'd seen anything under 1k here every model starts at €1250+, we can also all agree that there's no "good" guy here, we can talk about nvidia, intel or amd they're all the same and the worst part is that we keep agreeing with their BS.
@@maaax1173 Yeah, the 4070 Ti looks more like a 3060 (Ti) but with a price increase by 2x or 2.5x. Crazy! Prices for CPUs, RAM, SSDs, etc. are all still really decent. It truly is the greed of Nvidia and AMD that we are seeing right now.
I was just thinking what you said. "This is pretty close to my 3080ti". I guess I will wait to upgrade. Can you believe this was the model Nvidia was going to release as the 4080??
@wardogjr9718 yeah but at that Generation the 2080ti was the top Card ( not counting the Titan). This Gpu should have been faster than 3090ti, not match it or lose to it. Especially if you compare the MSRP of Rtx 2080ti and 3070 to 3090ti and 4070ti supposed Msrp
@Wardogjr97 It's similar situation, except before we compared a 80 series Ti card to a vanilla 70 class being the same which is huge. But now think about it, we compare 80 series NON Ti 3080 to a 70 class Ti card?! We just lost not one but 2 Ti's worth of performance. That means the vanilla 4070 will be much slower than a 3080 and exceptionally slower than a 3080 Ti. While it was supposed to be slightly faster than the 3080Ti if we follow previous gen path. 3070=2080Ti, 4070= 3080Ti but that will never be the case.
I think, when having realistic expectations the 4070ti isn't actually a bad 4k gaming graphics card that's not too far behind the 7900xt in non raytraced games and ahead of it most of the time when using ray tracing. The only real caveats being that it's needs to use upscaling tech some of the time. Especially when you consider the only GPU's that can do decent frame rates (1% lows above 60) and especially Ray tracing at 4k are all north of £1000. (here in the UK) Not bad for a GPU that starts at around £800 (again, UK pricing). (Remember folks that I am comparing to the current pricing landscape and not what we dream they would cost)
Totally agree. When did people start complaining about 4K and 60fps at the highest possible graphic settings. Omg I’m only getting 80fps on the highest graphic settings at 4K. WTF?
@@mr.nibblez2939 yeah I have a 4070 ti and I'll be at 4k yes I'm worried about the 12gb of vram but if I'm getting over 60fps I'm happy so I'll have it for 2-3 years then upgrade that simple it's capable enough really and slightly behind a 7900xt amds flagship.
At least in the US the RTX 4070 Ti is readily available for $800-850. They're in stock, sitting on shelves at retailers and e-tailers. From what I've seen, it's a very competent 4k GPU and a monster at 1440p.
1440p is more than enough for me personally. Really could care less about 4k. And if I want to play at 4k? I'll turn on Frame generation. Feels like Vsync enabled. no real "latency" perceived.
i appreciate you being honest about the pricing being too much despite nvidia sending you the card to test out. the product itself seems nice but the pricing is just too much, real shame.
I dont understand all the flaming and hating about the 4070ti.. sure its more expensive than a xx70 was usually but everything got more expensive. and its maybe not perfect and all for 4k but i dont see a problem in performance on 4k. If u play on 4k u cant expect to play on maxed out settings without any dlss (or other super sampeling software) anyways. at 4k you will always have to change some things to be able to get 100+ fps if you dont want to go for 4090 and so on. i own a 3080 12gb tuf oc and i quickly benchmarked Assassins Creed Valhalla with the same settings you showed and i got to an average of 75fps with 1%low 42fps. which means the 4070ti beat my 3080 12gb. so for anyone crying -> if you want to, you can play at 4k without a problem. He even showed great FPS with the card. And even if it does struggle. go to a High instead of ultra preset and maybe do one step less RTX or enable dlss Quality or Balanced and you have great FPS to play with.
and more energy efficient. Even with the expensive price tag it's still a decent card. People have paid way more for way less in the past like a 2080ti.
So sad this generation of GPU are so weak if you dont buy 4080/90, RTX 4070ti a brand new GPU that cant handle 60fps in some games even with DLSS, i'm afraid about 4060 perfomance
No last gen card is even pulling 4k60. Even the 3090ti wasn't a 4k card. This is the first time 4k cards are actually thing. You have multiple cards offering high refresh rate 4k. This isn't one of them.
my current build is like 2015-16 with gtx1070 and i picked parts for a new build and chose the 4070ti and thought wicked its gonna play sick then i seen the reviews and was upset and my parts coming from germany so i emailed them befor they got all parts in stock and canceled the 4070ti and im so damn happy. at first i thought even the 4070 super is better than this 4070ti. i have a alienware aw3423dwf monitor and it does 3440x1440p 165hz so from what ive seen the three new cards coming out are the 4070 super, 4070ti super 1440p at 144hz and a 4080 super(the card i want and thats right for my needs)i hope they have a gigabyte aero card or the NVIDIA card. i love my gtx 1070 and it plays all games well even at 4k i found it to be good. the thing i really didnt like on the 4070ti was the bus lane of 192 instead of the standard 256bus. which is what it also is on my old gtx 1070. with my gtx 1070 when i play fortnite i can set my graphics well and fps is above 60 but every so often it freezes a few seconds and i tried putting grapahics down and the fps was worse on lower settings. idk if my motherboard or cpu or even gpu is on its way out. i can start my pc every time fine. the moment i restart pc it shows the asus motherboard logo 2 times then goes to blue screen and switches off. i just power on pc and it works fine and i have this every time and not sure what the problem is. also i didnt know games were using hell a lot v-ram like nearly 12gb on cyberpunk jesus thank god i didnt get 12gb 4070ti. my first gpu was asus gtx 960 2gb and that was the shittest card ever. i never wanted 1080p for shit so it struggled doing anything higher than 1080p then i got a second hand gtx 1070 8gb and that worked fucking marvelous and did the job.
accept the fact, turning on dlss 3 and FG in supported games beat 3090 ti by a big big margin lol i think a 4070 can surely or even 4060 can possibly beat 3090 ti in DLSS 3 and FG supported games lol
To play 4k in high settings in 60fps, this card is overkilled and too expansive. Ultra settings are not optimized and people should not rely on it to evaluate cards. Some tunings + DLSS and you can play 4k 60fps even with a 4060ti
@@Jane-qh2yd it’s a great card for 1440p, beats any 30 series card in almost every game in 1440p. Frame generation adds to it as well. You can be mad at nvidia but it’s not a terrible card
goddamn adding 450$ for what 20fps gain rather get rtx 3080 just to play 4k anyways we use DLSS or FSR these days still skyrocket my fps when using DLSS or FSR
Keep up the good work. I like how you go to all areas and test the graphics for each games. THE way it should be... Like for your RD2 gameplay, going into the bushes etc in order to push the GPU. Too many other channels rely on synthetic benchmark.
The only reason to switch from a 3080 to this is literally FUCKING NO REASON AT ALL Why would anyone even consider "upgrading" from a 3080 to anything worse than a 4080/7900xtx?
You tested in detail in every possible scenario. It gives us a glimpse to understand how actually these expensive cards work before burning our hard earned money. Great job making such good informative video.
To people thinking the 4070 Ti has a 192 bit bus problem: It doesn’t matter if the 4070 Ti had a 192 bit bus or a 512 bit bus, it’ll still be less than half the performance of a 4090 because it has less than half the cuda cores. Also, der8auer already tested the claim of the 192 bit bus limiting the 4070 Ti and he concluded that it’s false. Like people pls, think before just looking at one part of a spec sheet 😭 Also the memory clock speed is just as important lol
@Transistor Jump Many gamers will be forced to upgrade to this because their systems are aging and buying an already pretty old 30 Series isn't a solution. He's right.
@Transistor Jump No. 3090 is new very expensive card, and I know many people will rather buy new gen than the old one used, because here and on a lot of places a used 3090 in good condition is priced same or above. Only 3080 Ti in ray-tracing and 3090 in pure gaming performance are the only competitors. Buying an already 2-years old platform new isn't a good way, if you wait enough this year will for sure drop the prices, and retail of these cards will appear. And then, you have something unbeatable.
Still the 1440p performance was insanely good. 4K60 seems good enough if that's constantly at 60 with some settings turned down that makes 1% without DLSS. But again, DLSS is there to make it happen.
4K gaming is such a small minority. I feel like someone who wants to game at 4k high refresh rate would never buy anything below a 4080. Clearly this card is a 1440p card...which costs 1k+ in europe
I'd like to see people testing in high presets (or 1 preset below max)... in most games ultra settings really isn't worth it at all and doesn't make a significant graphical impact over the second highest preset, but it does improve fps nicely.
i know right? usually there's barely any difference especially if you only turn the stuff off that you really dont need which eats up a lot of performance. but from what i've seen, ultra settings is usually more relevant when it comes to clock speed. it doesn't save a lot of vram
I totally agree. If you tweak some settings (not all needs to be maxed out) and enable dlss2 quality I bet you'll get even better stable fps. Some gfx settings eats fps like fog, clouds and shadows etc. How ever this video was really helpfull, just can't decide to get 4070ti or 4080 atm.
Really? I've been having that issue with the 4080 as well since that GPU came out and I've been in touch with Nvidia about it. They told me it was the motherboard bios 😅
Both the 4070 and 4070 ti are dedicated 1440p cards that get you comfortably over 60fps. The ti model will get you +15fps, but is that worth an additional $300? Both cards are crippled by only having 12gb of RAM and such a narrow bandwidth, but this is especially the case for the ti, which really could have been a much better card than it is.
@zWORMz Gaming In Battlefield 2042 the 4000 series gpus have a known bug where if you put the Terrain quality to ultra it will crash all the time, You have to lower it to high to get rid of the random crashes and you can keep all the other settings on Ultra.
Yeah NVIDIA doesn’t care about value or us gamers at all anymore. All they care about is if they’re gonna make their money and enough of it. They learned with the pandemic era that they can make a card cost however much they want and no matter what somebody’s gonna be desperate enough to buy it anyway so they’re just gonna get more greedy and make their card cost even more while barely improving them realistically. And making them with cheaper quality in the process eventually.
Same with AMD. If they wanted to be a fair competition, they would release good drivers at launch, and would price the cards to the level where Nvidia would get just blown off. Intel is an unstable platform but the only Nvidia competitor with a clean name and capabilities to make huge masses of GPUs. Sadly, no corporation will ever care about you, that's the reality.
PLZ, can you test 4070ti or 4080 with a bunch of games using Nvidia DLDSR 2880x1620p (45% Filtering) (1080p baseline DLDSR 1620p) Same type of tests... RT + DLSS Q if needed. Its available to all RTX 2000+ users but hardly gets videos on it.. Filtering in DLDSR is different to old DSR, 50% is more of a middle ground AI treatment, left slider is sharper, right slider is smoother. So I use 40-45% depending on the game. In some games, 2880x1620p Ai looks like a dynamic 4K or 1800p image with a nice FPS boost over 4K. Saves some VRAM, Better for GPU with lower Vram Bus widths like 192bit 4070ti, but 4080 could also scale well if not CPU bound.
Something is wrong with your benchmarks or computer, I am getting a minimum of 30% more fps in every game you showcased. Same settings, no DLSS, at least 30% more. Fix this video or take it down its false advertising
When you tested 3080 Ti you said that gpu is a monster, but you tested cyberpunk on 4k with dlss on balanced, which I find it to be a cheat. 4070 Ti have about the same performance and you tested mostly the same games but now you think this is not impressive 🤔
33:50 dammm I love this guys honesty 🥰. Idk why but TH-cam and internet are so filled with people trying to sell you stuff that’s isn’t good value for money at all. But Kryzzp always says straight to the point what it’s all about. All in a clear and understandable way for everyone. Thanks so much 🙏🙏❤
Considering the trend of increasing VRAM in high-end graphics cards, it would be expected for a 4K card like the RTX 4070 Ti to have more than 12 GB of VRAM.
@@zWORMzGaming only at launch, the price dropped lower than some 3080 AIB models and became a good deal, the 4070ti is better than the 3090ti which isn't even a year old, the ASUS tuf 3080 is 849 on the asus store, the 4070ti is the same price, it's a great value card especially even if you are upgrading from the 3080 which you can still sell for 500-600 dollars
@@sleeper5905 yeah if you buy used 3080ti, brand new the 4070 is cheaper and its better, Frame Generation is already pretty good after few driver updates its going to be a must especially for next gen titles beginning with Forespoken, 3080ti struggled in 4k with old games
NVIDIA and AMD are killing it with the worst GPU launches in decades.
Yup 😐
nah, it ain't that bad..
@@KryzysX sure...
3080s msrp is 805$ when adjusted for inflation in 2023… 4070 ti gives 30 - 40% better performance while using significantly less power and has frame Gen AT THE SAME PRICE POINT. This is a GOOD Gen on Gen improvement. What do you not understand here????
@@Drip7914 the problem is that it costs 100p$+ in most countries
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@@carmoj4121 fr I can't even find anything super special but I still love watching them😭
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Man after a long time watching Kryzzp
Feels like he improved his gaming sense a lot than before while still entertaining us
Neuroplasticity is fascinating
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I love watching 4k footage at 480p. Truly encapsulates the experience
watching 4k on a phone fr man i feel u
SAME
imagine crying about a 1 second drop to 50 ish fps on extreme settings in 4k when jumping in water. Meanwhile i'm still on my GTX 970 playing games at 1080p on lowest to mid settings with 40ish fps sometimes. 60+FPS would be a dream for me.
The 4070ti is memory bottlenecked at 4k, because it only has a 192 bit memory bus, that's why it lacks behind at higher resolutions but is great at lower resolutions
For 192 bit memory bus and 504GB/s of bandwidth i thought it would be far worse to be honest, the 7900 XT which is the direct competitor of this card has a 320 bit memory bus with 800Gb/s bandwidth but the performance gap isn't that large
@@marcelosoares7148 why would u compare a 70 series to nearly flagship of the competitor bro
And that's why it should have cost 599$ at most. The rtx 3070 ti has 256bit memory bus and it was priced for 599$ and it was still overpriced for the performance compare to the rtx 3070. Ideally the current 70ti card should have lower MSRP than the rtx 3070 ti, but it's Nvidia and we all know that they really effective at milking their fanboys...
@@voweee Everyone is comparing them because of the kinda similar price and performance to be fair
@@voweee brain-dead take
The 3080 at 700 dollars was targeted for 4k
And now you have to pay more for a gpu that is targeted for 1440p.
But in reality, 4070 Ti is marketed for 1440p, but it has more frames than a 3080 in 4K. And yeah, 3080 wasn't even a high-refresh 4K gpu, more like for 50 or 60-ish frames. Conclusion; never trust marketing.
@@protontech9662 4070ti barley has many more frames in 4K being a newer gpu and more expensive:)
@@gamingedition5165 No. Compared to 3080 non-ti it is a noticeable difference. Plus you get the new features and excellent power draw.
@@gamingedition5165 Anyways, have a good day [can't resist to return a smiley face] :)
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Seems like Frame Generation is the only real reason to upgrade to the 40 series, but with the disgusting price gouging, it's not worth it at ALL right now
not even worth it that much to begin with considering it's still only in a handful of games and it still needs some kinks ironed out. hopefully dlss 4 will be a far better improvement over 3 like how 2 was with 1
@@thewtfverse9763 DLSS 3 makes a HUGE difference, and I can tell that. In games, you won't even notice the "bad images" or whatever, because the game is so fast with it. You had to stare at the screen for minutes to find something corrupted.
It is good for it's price point . It's more cheaper than a 3090ti, 3090, 3080 and far more superior but not really that good in 4k. But hey not all of us here can't live with 50 fps or 60fps, and not all of us here game at 4k cause it's expensive
In Sweden the price of a 4070ti is actually technically kinda close to the 3070ti unironically at the moment, or a 3080.
@@semp224 i recently tried GTA 5 on 4K with 50 and 60 fps settings. Difference is really noticeable. I don't want to play games at 1080 or even 2k. Nowadays 4K 60 fps should be a minimum to play on.
That insulting 192 bit memory bus width killing the 4070Ti at 4K.
A low tier GTX 1660TI has 192 bit bus lol 😅
@@IronMan-jj2fd 60ti is a mid tier card, not a low tier card
@@grantmckenzie787 as of today it's a low tier card!
Ur right if it was 2019 or 2020, but it's 2023 now!
@@IronMan-jj2fd bit bus isn’t generation dependent unless you go back really far. 2060ti had the same bus width and 3060, a mid range, had the same. 30 series was the only gen to have more bit bus at 60ti
It's the cuda cores -_-
I guess at this point we can all agree that this is a pretty good card even for 4k RT, the only thing off is the price, I guess that between 150 and 250 lower than msrp would be more than a steal and probably the biggest enemy of all the GPUs currently out, but yeah... we probably can only dream of that.
The highest it should be is like 600 dollars, I agree
And to top that it's selling for a lot more than msrp, the cheapest here is 930€ and it jumps to 1000€+ for the second cheapest...
@@zWORMzGaming Wished I'd seen anything under 1k here every model starts at €1250+, we can also all agree that there's no "good" guy here, we can talk about nvidia, intel or amd they're all the same and the worst part is that we keep agreeing with their BS.
Yup, imagine this at 419 bucks...
(the 3060Ti was (supposed to be) 400 and the 4070Ti compares to a 4090 like a 3060Ti does to a 3090)
@@maaax1173 Yeah, the 4070 Ti looks more like a 3060 (Ti) but with a price increase by 2x or 2.5x. Crazy!
Prices for CPUs, RAM, SSDs, etc. are all still really decent. It truly is the greed of Nvidia and AMD that we are seeing right now.
I was just thinking what you said. "This is pretty close to my 3080ti". I guess I will wait to upgrade.
Can you believe this was the model Nvidia was going to release as the 4080??
Right? They were out of their minds to call it a 4080, it would be ridiculous
@@zWORMzGaming please intel core 2 q8300 gaming
@wardogjr9718 yeah but at that Generation the 2080ti was the top Card ( not counting the Titan). This Gpu should have been faster than 3090ti, not match it or lose to it.
Especially if you compare the MSRP of Rtx 2080ti and 3070 to 3090ti and 4070ti supposed Msrp
@@zalankhan5743 the 90ti was the titan of the 30 series. You can’t just not count the titan lol
@Wardogjr97 It's similar situation, except before we compared a 80 series Ti card to a vanilla 70 class being the same which is huge. But now think about it, we compare 80 series NON Ti 3080 to a 70 class Ti card?! We just lost not one but 2 Ti's worth of performance. That means the vanilla 4070 will be much slower than a 3080 and exceptionally slower than a 3080 Ti. While it was supposed to be slightly faster than the 3080Ti if we follow previous gen path. 3070=2080Ti, 4070= 3080Ti but that will never be the case.
4k60 high settings absolutely no problem. Stop wasting resources for ultra setting just to see a flower or two more.
Or better yet, don't waste your money buying a 4070ti.
I think, when having realistic expectations the 4070ti isn't actually a bad 4k gaming graphics card that's not too far behind the 7900xt in non raytraced games and ahead of it most of the time when using ray tracing. The only real caveats being that it's needs to use upscaling tech some of the time. Especially when you consider the only GPU's that can do decent frame rates (1% lows above 60) and especially Ray tracing at 4k are all north of £1000. (here in the UK) Not bad for a GPU that starts at around £800 (again, UK pricing). (Remember folks that I am comparing to the current pricing landscape and not what we dream they would cost)
12gb is a joke for a 4k gaming all gpu in 4k resolution must have 16-20 gb vram
It did pretty well, but yea for that price, you'd want a little bit more. Thanks for the video!
love that you're getting more of these cards sent out. keep up the good work
It looks like it's playing at least 4k60 in games just fine to me. If you want 4k high refresh, you probably want to consider 4080 or 4090.
Totally agree. When did people start complaining about 4K and 60fps at the highest possible graphic settings. Omg I’m only getting 80fps on the highest graphic settings at 4K. WTF?
@@mr.nibblez2939 yeah I have a 4070 ti and I'll be at 4k yes I'm worried about the 12gb of vram but if I'm getting over 60fps I'm happy so I'll have it for 2-3 years then upgrade that simple it's capable enough really and slightly behind a 7900xt amds flagship.
Exactly I think all the people complaining already have been using the best of the best.
Pay attention to the 1% lows. That’s abysmal for a $800 card.
@@mr.nibblez2939 The goalpost moved when they saw the honestly dazzling performance of the 4090.
The low memory bandwidth really hurts this card for 4k gaming.
Here in finland, the cheapest 3080 10gb is a 100€ less than the cheapest 4070 ti.
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Kyllä niitä käytettynä saa 600e. 4070ti halvin saatavilla uutena 1000euroa :)))
@@xTurtleOW Juu käytetty on käytetty.
neither are worth it, buy used, buy AMD or buy Intel, otherwise Nvidia will continue their pricing bullshit
At least in the US the RTX 4070 Ti is readily available for $800-850. They're in stock, sitting on shelves at retailers and e-tailers. From what I've seen, it's a very competent 4k GPU and a monster at 1440p.
1440p is more than enough for me personally.
Really could care less about 4k.
And if I want to play at 4k? I'll turn on Frame generation. Feels like Vsync enabled. no real "latency" perceived.
Cope
@@insatiateire4784 Coke.
i appreciate you being honest about the pricing being too much despite nvidia sending you the card to test out. the product itself seems nice but the pricing is just too much, real shame.
Okay, that 192 bit memory bus seems like deliberate move by nVidia.
They've always been extremely stingy with memory
You want know why?! If they put 16-20GB vram and more bus then no one buy xx80-xx90 , nvidia do it to make you buy expensive one .
Planned obsolescence by Ngreedia
I dont understand all the flaming and hating about the 4070ti.. sure its more expensive than a xx70 was usually but everything got more expensive. and its maybe not perfect and all for 4k but i dont see a problem in performance on 4k. If u play on 4k u cant expect to play on maxed out settings without any dlss (or other super sampeling software) anyways. at 4k you will always have to change some things to be able to get 100+ fps if you dont want to go for 4090 and so on.
i own a 3080 12gb tuf oc and i quickly benchmarked Assassins Creed Valhalla with the same settings you showed and i got to an average of 75fps with 1%low 42fps.
which means the 4070ti beat my 3080 12gb. so for anyone crying -> if you want to, you can play at 4k without a problem. He even showed great FPS with the card. And even if it does struggle. go to a High instead of ultra preset and maybe do one step less RTX or enable dlss Quality or Balanced and you have great FPS to play with.
basically a cut down 3090 level card with dlss frame gen as its selling point
and more energy efficient. Even with the expensive price tag it's still a decent card. People have paid way more for way less in the past like a 2080ti.
@@johnc8327 understandable but yeah they could always charge less for a 70 series card
90 fps at 4k at extreme settings in a battle royale? Its ok?? We have been so brain washed holy shit .y 1050 ti looks at this graphics card like a god
Lmao 90fps at 4k is amazing I'll take it
the price tag is the issue usually 70s cards were at 499 - 599 msrp
So sad this generation of GPU are so weak if you dont buy 4080/90, RTX 4070ti a brand new GPU that cant handle 60fps in some games even with DLSS, i'm afraid about 4060 perfomance
It'll be good for 1440p, 4K is a stretch though
No last gen card is even pulling 4k60. Even the 3090ti wasn't a 4k card. This is the first time 4k cards are actually thing. You have multiple cards offering high refresh rate 4k. This isn't one of them.
I think 4K at 60 is enough i believe no one had a 4k 144hz monitor,beacuse when you game 4K you don’t need high refresh rate
This card needs to go down in price by at least about 50%. Then it's going to be a good one. (same for the other 40 series).
It will, just don't expect a price drop right after launch lol.
how about they work hard and give u the card for free then?,yall greedy
my current build is like 2015-16 with gtx1070 and i picked parts for a new build and chose the 4070ti and thought wicked its gonna play sick then i seen the reviews and was upset and my parts coming from germany so i emailed them befor they got all parts in stock and canceled the 4070ti and im so damn happy. at first i thought even the 4070 super is better than this 4070ti. i have a alienware aw3423dwf monitor and it does 3440x1440p 165hz so from what ive seen the three new cards coming out are the 4070 super, 4070ti super 1440p at 144hz and a 4080 super(the card i want and thats right for my needs)i hope they have a gigabyte aero card or the NVIDIA card. i love my gtx 1070 and it plays all games well even at 4k i found it to be good. the thing i really didnt like on the 4070ti was the bus lane of 192 instead of the standard 256bus. which is what it also is on my old gtx 1070. with my gtx 1070 when i play fortnite i can set my graphics well and fps is above 60 but every so often it freezes a few seconds and i tried putting grapahics down and the fps was worse on lower settings. idk if my motherboard or cpu or even gpu is on its way out. i can start my pc every time fine. the moment i restart pc it shows the asus motherboard logo 2 times then goes to blue screen and switches off. i just power on pc and it works fine and i have this every time and not sure what the problem is. also i didnt know games were using hell a lot v-ram like nearly 12gb on cyberpunk jesus thank god i didnt get 12gb 4070ti. my first gpu was asus gtx 960 2gb and that was the shittest card ever. i never wanted 1080p for shit so it struggled doing anything higher than 1080p then i got a second hand gtx 1070 8gb and that worked fucking marvelous and did the job.
Me, who uses 3060 Ti on 1440p - I'll be fine with it :D
Same here. Skipping this generation. 3060 Ti will still give me a playable experience. I lucked out since I got the card at launch when it was MSRP.
brand new card for 1000 bucks then you see
250 to 280 watts is really good for this card. the 3070ti draws that kind of power and is waay worse.
I play 4k 60 with a pny 4070ti works great for me...
That's what happens at 4K when you skimp on the memory.
I really don’t get why you would need 4k anyways when your playing comp games
“Up to 3x the performance of the 3090 Tie” what a load of bs
Oh yeah lol
accept the fact, turning on dlss 3 and FG in supported games beat 3090 ti by a big big margin lol i think a 4070 can surely or even 4060 can possibly beat 3090 ti in DLSS 3 and FG supported games lol
@@mars7317 dlss in performance or/and FG on, means you are not actually playing at that resolution and ultra settings. Stop lying to yourself
@@kenshinhimura6280 Sure, always play your game at native resolution. Don't use DLSS 2 or FSR too : )
To play 4k in high settings in 60fps, this card is overkilled and too expansive.
Ultra settings are not optimized and people should not rely on it to evaluate cards.
Some tunings + DLSS and you can play 4k 60fps even with a 4060ti
25:59 You nailed it! Spending so much on a GPU but you still have to compromise on a lot of settings. This card ain't worth it for the price.
It’s a 1440p card. Don’t buy it if you want to play at 4k
@@grantmckenzie787 What an overpriced 1440p card.
@@grantmckenzie787 It's a terrible card. You shouldn't buy it at all
@@Jane-qh2yd it’s a great card for 1440p, beats any 30 series card in almost every game in 1440p. Frame generation adds to it as well. You can be mad at nvidia but it’s not a terrible card
Maybe use the card for the resolution it's meant for? Want 4k high fps, buy a 4090 or a 4080.
goddamn adding 450$ for what 20fps gain rather get rtx 3080 just to play 4k anyways we use DLSS or FSR these days still skyrocket my fps when using DLSS or FSR
Ordinarily I'd make fun of you for running at max settings and complaining about sub-60 FPS drops, but hell, for >£800 I'd complain too!
Exactly!
Heyo! Iceberg love your vids. I have the same sentiment too. Skipping this generation. I still got my 3060 Ti so I'll be good for a while.
I dont know about others but when reviewing a card, i would love to hear something about the noise level of the card.
you have tested soo many cards man, and forcefully knocked down on their knees by breaking resolution limits..
can you do that with a 3060 12gb please
I would like to see that too!
Its perfect for 1440p should be max 650
Because this stupid 192 bit bus stops 4070 in 4k thats why it cant use its full potential
For 800$ I'd expect at least 800 FPS at max settings at 8k with max RT.
That's part of the problem, people don't have realistic expectations. They want 4k100fps GPU for $400.
@@johnc8327 Yeah, for 400$ I'd expect 400 FPS. It's very unrealistic to expect 100 fps.
How i have comparable performance on 6800xt with almost half the price
Keep up the good work. I like how you go to all areas and test the graphics for each games. THE way it should be... Like for your RD2 gameplay, going into the bushes etc in order to push the GPU. Too many other channels rely on synthetic benchmark.
$799 for a 4070 ti is normal if you understand inflation
The only reason to switch my rtx 3080 would be the better power to performance rate but at that pricing no chance
The only reason to switch from a 3080 to this is literally FUCKING NO REASON AT ALL
Why would anyone even consider "upgrading" from a 3080 to anything worse than a 4080/7900xtx?
Yeah thats the only thing I dont like about my 3080, the power draw
@@maaax1173 I won't even wanna change to 4090 if I got 3080 it's pretty new man:v
@@Birdman._. exactly
remember when the 1080ti was supposed to be the first taste of 4k for only $700 and now at that price, that is just a 1440p card lol
If you want similar performance but without ray tracing in 4k games like rtx 4070 ti choose rx 6950 xt!
In certain games the latter is even faster.
Bugfest
I’ll get a 4070ti when the price comes down.
Would love to see all resolution , upscaling , ray tracing setting variation of 4070ti tested with a single game , lets say Spider man miles morales.
He did a 1440p video for this card the other day. It shines more there
i only have 4k 60hz monitor, so i thing this card will be my best option!
That's what I have and it will achieve 4k 60 no problem in basically every game except city skylines2 lol but nobody can run that game good
You tested in detail in every possible scenario. It gives us a glimpse to understand how actually these expensive cards work before burning our hard earned money. Great job making such good informative video.
a 70 class card should never have less than 256 bit memory bus. Nvidia just focused too much on the high end and the lower end is paying for it.
To people thinking the 4070 Ti has a 192 bit bus problem: It doesn’t matter if the 4070 Ti had a 192 bit bus or a 512 bit bus, it’ll still be less than half the performance of a 4090 because it has less than half the cuda cores. Also, der8auer already tested the claim of the 192 bit bus limiting the 4070 Ti and he concluded that it’s false. Like people pls, think before just looking at one part of a spec sheet 😭
Also the memory clock speed is just as important lol
If you own an old GPU or an old system and you want to upgrade, this GPU is good because they are new and have warranty.
Hey Daniel. Love your vids
@Transistor Jump Many gamers will be forced to upgrade to this because their systems are aging and buying an already pretty old 30 Series isn't a solution. He's right.
@Transistor Jump No. 3090 is new very expensive card, and I know many people will rather buy new gen than the old one used, because here and on a lot of places a used 3090 in good condition is priced same or above. Only 3080 Ti in ray-tracing and 3090 in pure gaming performance are the only competitors. Buying an already 2-years old platform new isn't a good way, if you wait enough this year will for sure drop the prices, and retail of these cards will appear. And then, you have something unbeatable.
Still the 1440p performance was insanely good. 4K60 seems good enough if that's constantly at 60 with some settings turned down that makes 1% without DLSS. But again, DLSS is there to make it happen.
its not much better than 3080. at higher cost.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j it's like 20-40 more fps at 1440p than the 3080 on average. That and dlss 3 so you choose if its worth the extra 100-150 bucks.
That much money to play at 1440p no thanks
@@JagsP95 will pay extra for DLSS 3, no doubts in that. That's an amazing thing to have if you are going fps and targeting 1080p/4K.
@@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231 Yeah ultimately whatever fits you
4K gaming is such a small minority. I feel like someone who wants to game at 4k high refresh rate would never buy anything below a 4080. Clearly this card is a 1440p card...which costs 1k+ in europe
I've seen a few sites claim that the 4070 TI is memory-starved for 4K gaming but the Hardware Unboxed benchmarks don't really show that at all.
Yeah I have a 4070 ti at 1440p it's amazing still yet to benchmark 4k but I think going by hardware unboxed it'll be just fine overall.
Brother pls pls pls make a review of Rx 590
I'd like to see people testing in high presets (or 1 preset below max)... in most games ultra settings really isn't worth it at all and doesn't make a significant graphical impact over the second highest preset, but it does improve fps nicely.
i know right? usually there's barely any difference especially if you only turn the stuff off that you really dont need which eats up a lot of performance.
but from what i've seen, ultra settings is usually more relevant when it comes to clock speed. it doesn't save a lot of vram
can yoou test rtx 2070/super/TI for 2023
I bought the ZOTAC Trinity OC today. Im curious how she performs. I Hope shes good enough for my Personal preferences.
3080ti?
Equivalent to a 3090 right?
Bro... you want Nvidia to keep these prices or increase them further? 5070Ti will be 1000 bucks if people like you keep buying Rtx 4000 cards
@@maaax1173 even latest amd gpu sucks!
@@IronMan-jj2fd Unfortunately yes, I hope they‘ll get the drivers fixed soon so a 7900xtx can finally beat the 4080 as they promised
Weird how this card is on par with my 6800xt on 4k. But tbh, the 4070ti should only be used for 1440p.
Most games he tested don't got much of a problem with 4k so for singleplayer tiles its not bad at all
But I would still recommend 3080 over this
@@Birdman._. 3080 is worse in every single way but the price, buddy.
Is it weird, knowing 6800XT's level of performance and that 6000 series only shine at 1080p/1440? I really don't think it is
Maybe try running optimized settings?
Seems like a perfect card for 4k optimal settings.
I totally agree. If you tweak some settings (not all needs to be maxed out) and enable dlss2 quality I bet you'll get even better stable fps. Some gfx settings eats fps like fog, clouds and shadows etc. How ever this video was really helpfull, just can't decide to get 4070ti or 4080 atm.
@@mrBytemareand what did u go for?
Nvidia has confirmed there is an issue with the 4070ti on BF2042 with the current drivers, it wasn’t your PCs fault
Really? I've been having that issue with the 4080 as well since that GPU came out and I've been in touch with Nvidia about it. They told me it was the motherboard bios 😅
@@zWORMzGaming I believe it was in the Derbauer review of the 4070ti he got a response from them
that GPU is gorgeous
The cards very well at 4k.. uter lies
Both the 4070 and 4070 ti are dedicated 1440p cards that get you comfortably over 60fps. The ti model will get you +15fps, but is that worth an additional $300?
Both cards are crippled by only having 12gb of RAM and such a narrow bandwidth, but this is especially the case for the ti, which really could have been a much better card than it is.
What is this program you using to see FPS?
Tecnicamente as série 40 deveriam ser todas voltada para 4k, se for contar seus antecessores e o preço
vdd
4050?
Never realized you had such dainty hands
🤣
@zWORMz Gaming In Battlefield 2042 the 4000 series gpus have a known bug where if you put the Terrain quality to ultra it will crash all the time, You have to lower it to high to get rid of the random crashes and you can keep all the other settings on Ultra.
Lol who plays this garbage game anyway ?
Yeah NVIDIA doesn’t care about value or us gamers at all anymore. All they care about is if they’re gonna make their money and enough of it. They learned with the pandemic era that they can make a card cost however much they want and no matter what somebody’s gonna be desperate enough to buy it anyway so they’re just gonna get more greedy and make their card cost even more while barely improving them realistically. And making them with cheaper quality in the process eventually.
Same with AMD. If they wanted to be a fair competition, they would release good drivers at launch, and would price the cards to the level where Nvidia would get just blown off. Intel is an unstable platform but the only Nvidia competitor with a clean name and capabilities to make huge masses of GPUs. Sadly, no corporation will ever care about you, that's the reality.
I like my 3090 OC even more now. Thanks !
I honestly don’t find these results horrible. Am I missing something?
Yes, the 900$ price tag
PLZ, can you test 4070ti or 4080 with a bunch of games using Nvidia DLDSR 2880x1620p (45% Filtering) (1080p baseline DLDSR 1620p) Same type of tests... RT + DLSS Q if needed.
Its available to all RTX 2000+ users but hardly gets videos on it..
Filtering in DLDSR is different to old DSR, 50% is more of a middle ground AI treatment, left slider is sharper, right slider is smoother. So I use 40-45% depending on the game.
In some games, 2880x1620p Ai looks like a dynamic 4K or 1800p image with a nice FPS boost over 4K.
Saves some VRAM, Better for GPU with lower Vram Bus widths like 192bit 4070ti, but 4080 could also scale well if not CPU bound.
Something is wrong with your benchmarks or computer, I am getting a minimum of 30% more fps in every game you showcased. Same settings, no DLSS, at least 30% more. Fix this video or take it down its false advertising
When you tested 3080 Ti you said that gpu is a monster, but you tested cyberpunk on 4k with dlss on balanced, which I find it to be a cheat. 4070 Ti have about the same performance and you tested mostly the same games but now you think this is not impressive 🤔
Nvidia? Value?
I didn't see the word value with nvidia for long
And 40 series is luxurious both in price and power usage as well.
33:50 dammm I love this guys honesty 🥰. Idk why but TH-cam and internet are so filled with people trying to sell you stuff that’s isn’t good value for money at all. But Kryzzp always says straight to the point what it’s all about. All in a clear and understandable way for everyone. Thanks so much 🙏🙏❤
No shit Nvidia never intended this to be a 4k card.
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Considering the trend of increasing VRAM in high-end graphics cards, it would be expected for a 4K card like the RTX 4070 Ti to have more than 12 GB of VRAM.
Hey cruuzp your eyes are red don't play on computer so much bro
* holy moly that was very fast thanks for the awser. Have a peaceful break
I'll take a little break in the next couple of days :)
No tiene nada que ver.
Eso debe ser por algun tema de presión ocular, o alergia.
Algun tema vascular.
@@McLeonVP it's lack of sleep and too much editing
@@zWORMzGaming take some rest man :)
@@zWORMzGaming does it hurt? pain?
For 750 id buy it but currently it is between 950-1050 euro and there's no way im gonna do that.
The pricing is just a meme... (The 7900 xtx costs around 50-100$ more lol)
Yea I usually like amd but there prices are bad I think the bad options is the 7900xt they should lower that by 200
Only reason to even look at this card is for dlss 3.0. Otherwise, this card is not impressive.
Only RTX 4090 is worth to buy. It could play AAA games at 4k easily.
It's a 3090 ti with VRAM limitation issues, basically.
No not really.
Nobody needs 24gb of vram. Unless your a hardcore animator. And no. At 1440p and 1080p this card is marginally faster than the 3090ti
900€ for 40FPS in 4K. What a good deal. Not.
will probably perform even worse in witcher 3 rtx
Its really bad that at the current time it is already running out of vram, imagine in a year time it would not be usable with those games
It’s basically a 3060Ti class tbh
Calling this 4070Ti is a SCAM,4060Ti for this performance is forgivable
RTX 4070ti looks like working in 4K the same FPS like my RTX 3070 but in 1440p. Hmmm... 🤔
Why are you not satisfied with 60fps ultra this is fine for most games
wait a minute so it cost less than a 3080ti and it performs better than the 3080ti in 4k plus has DLSS 3, yet you say it's a disappointment lmao
The 3080 ti was terrible value
@@zWORMzGaming only at launch, the price dropped lower than some 3080 AIB models and became a good deal, the 4070ti is better than the 3090ti which isn't even a year old, the ASUS tuf 3080 is 849 on the asus store, the 4070ti is the same price, it's a great value card especially even if you are upgrading from the 3080 which you can still sell for 500-600 dollars
I think it costs more than 3080 ti
@@sleeper5905 yeah if you buy used 3080ti, brand new the 4070 is cheaper and its better, Frame Generation is already pretty good after few driver updates its going to be a must especially for next gen titles beginning with Forespoken, 3080ti struggled in 4k with old games
Can you test rtx 4070 ti in witcher 3 ?
Sure :)
man, what's wrong with ur eyes? hmmm...
Too much computer ahahah
why dont you guys turn on MSAA and FXAA? i really wanna see how it looks like but nobody does turn it on! WHYYY????