Thank you for taking the time to make this very helpful video. I just bought the Traxxas Bronco. I won't be buying any of these mods. Thank you for saving me money! :)
I think the big thing with brass portals is that when you are flexing out on a rock or obstacle that it helps settle the tires back down on the terrain easier and quicker than not having the weight. I don't see a big improvement in climbing ability, but more stability on uneven terrain.
Kevin, I love your Passion and Energy. I dig your accent, although it can be a little difficult/impossible to make out all words, I have no trouble following your program. Definitely one of the best.
Thank you for spending your money, time and efforts in performing these tests/comparisons!!! You are very scientific and exacting as possible! Great stuff, Kevin.
Really great video! Focusing on my shell weight gives me the most reward in performance. No need to post for wheels and brass at this point. Thank you for the breakdown and performance! Cheers 🤟
For ascending, adding the weight to the front only will be more effective than all the way around. It may also help with the side slope since the front is not overdriven.
I thought the extra weight low would keep it planted better too. This really proves shaving weight at the top is much more effective than trying to compensate by adding weight to the bottom.
I wasn't completely accurate. We didn't get to see what it was stock, just lightweight body no upgrades was. What Was the progression of change just lightweight body?
True comment. Exo is as real as it gets! Love your channel! Seems like your channel was a mom spider that xploded and millions of others appeared in your area. Good for you
I love this kind of comparison. I would love to see some more with big basher monster trucks , and some with some racing parts on track racers of all scales and catigories . I found this to very informative. Keep up the incredibly good work bro . And please please please do more like this
I love your videos Kevin! You try new things, your entertaining, funny, educational and of course, you love RCs!!!! Keep up the good work! You have my support!!! ❤❤🖒🖒😉
Subscribed, i like seeing numbers not just video footage side by side of before and after, especially to the ones who do outdoors course and you can see the difference of weather. I like your tests, make it one less variable to change that, along with actual numbers
good video. I had a trx4 land rover body on mine . I done very similar mods but I restricted the shocks by 6mm spacer under the shock piston . made a massive difference aswell. keep up the good work.
wondering what would happen if the wheel weight's where only fitted on the front as is seems its the front that lifting? And add some weight along the front crossmember to keep the front down.
That's what I'd have liked to see on the front only. Side climb would most likely be the same but straight climb you'd hope would be better. If not, best not waste your money
Good Job ! In vertical test you should use a less flexible board, because the vehicle weight causes flexion and changes the real angle of some degrees (this is the reason all vehicles have problems in the middle of the board and not at the beginning). But this changes only real values, not the great job and the overall results !
This may sound crazy but it worked for me. The inside of the bumpers are hollow. Mold aluminum foil to the inside of bumpers. Take lead fishing wights and heat. Pour melted lead into aluminum mold. Remove aluminum and super glue lead molds to inside of bumpers. There are other places on trx4 you can also do this.
I suggest a redo of the test. With the suspension adjusted. Give 7mm of preload up front and 5mm in the rear. When they are set in the middle like how those seemed to be the truck leans and tips much easier. Ever since I lowered my preload and added 2.5oz of weight to each corner it climbs hills and sidehils like crazy.
the problem with that uphill one was that when it got to the middle the weight of the truck made the board flex making the top part even steeper making it tip over. But overall nice vid
I also can't ditch the body I like the look. I'll just add aluminum and brass all over down low and get the Lipo lower and deal with it. check out the weighted front bumper mount that has adjustable brass inserts and some steal bumpers
the way you installed the brass parts, is for a lower center of gravity. to affect climbing you want the weight up front. It'd be nice to see the test with the brass up front only, and the spare of the truck then compare it to the light body.
I think those body's overpower what the difference might be per item. Had you used the light weight body during each part upgrade, you might have gotten the results you wanted. It sells those items short. Lighter body put the overall weight more pro to proper detail per each upgrade..
what is the best 3 cell lipo for my traxxas trx-4, now I got a traxxas 5000 3s 25c lipo but after 1 year I got just the half of the promesed runtime. ruurt from the netherlands. can you please help me out.
I think the brass covers would make a bigger difference in a situation where you are flexing back and forth a lot and need the extra weight to keep the tires on the ground for traction
Great video man. Great channel keep up the great work. After watching some of your videos I went and picked up the TRX 4 with the ford bronco body. It's a great out of the box rig. I'm running a 12 volt cordless drill motor in it at the moment and did the steering servo upgrade to a 277 oz. in. Servo as well as a bigger set of tires on 2.2 rims. What would you say would be the next best thing to upgrade on this RC. Been thinking of going brushless but really like to crawl around my course I have set up. But like to do a little bashing to. Any input or thoughts would be great thanks
You should get a twin hammers dt 1.9 it's a amazing rock racer and basher all it needs is one aluminum part and it's indestrctbe and can be turned in to a 2 speed and can go brushless and just looks stunning I have one my self by the way
OK ,being a total Knoob to all things RC and wanting to start a new hobby i think i want a crawler rather than a basher., all the stuff i've looked at seems to point me the the TRX 4 but alot of the vids are on the older side, is this still a good buy in 2021???
It is, but keep in mind that this comparison is abit off. If you want to do more technical crawling/climbing, go for the Sport version, if trailing with moderate crawling is your thing than go for the Defender imho.
The first trial for the tilt test with the raptor body was higher than the 2nd test so it probably did just a couple more degrees (Go to 16:04 and skip 10 seconds, you’ll see a light difference in the Ramps angle)
Kevin not bad its a start but I got you blown out of the water with incline degrees. Check out my trx4 testing and I am loading a new one now with a 2.2 tire incline test..And I'm not using grippy foam incline. I'm using a sheet of 1/2 drywall :-0 As always great video and testing ;-)
2.2 testing is uploaded..No purchased mods just one simple tweak ;-) Check it out. I'm guessing may 65+degree's give or take a few, I say give a few ;-)
I am building a monster slash and it sucks up my money like a black hole, maybe when it's done I'll get trx4. I've wanted one since they came out but I don't have much money.
These are great tests, but they do not show all of the advantages that the brass weights and heavier wheels provide. More weight translates to more grip and less slippage (wheel spinning). This is very noticeable when cresting over a rock ledge or dirt ridge. The added weight also helps your suspension decompress to it's fullest extent when a wheel is floating in mid air and you want it to connect to the ground. Finally when the truck hits a bump and bounces the heavier un-sprung weight keeps the tires more in contact with the ground while the body (over spring weight) jostles around. None of this is covered by these tests and are very important when it comes to competitions and trailing performance. These tests did show improvements and if you think a couple of degrees doesn't make a difference then go stand on a 4 degree road and a 6 degree one. You will feel it in the different way you have to stand and walk on the two different roads (yes, I live in a mountainous area).
If you add the same weight on the left and right or front and rear nothing will change, you would fair better in real world than in controlled environment. That brass looks nice though lol
Make Nitro Great Again not technically if u think about it the more Weight u have even if it’s low when ur crawling if the parts u weighted down is on the higher incline it’s still going to flip bc of the extra weight being higher
You need yourself an assistant. Yes, next video please have your cheerleader, in uniform, helping you and us...we'll all be happy. Peace Out from Spokane, Washington, USA
You could have achieved way better #’s by simply adjusting your suspension and/or wrapping some lead wire on the front wheels, also different stage foams make a difference in balance as well. I’ll keep it as stock as possible and blow away guys that spend thousands on their rigs.
I quit my job and made $100,000 on ebay last year. See how you can too! kevin-talbot.teachable.com/p/kev-s-ebay-course
What do you think would be a good car to get for about $300-$400 that is good off road
@@jackl3384 most likely the trx4 sport, 340, also you have the axial deadbolt and the redcat gen8 also have good reviews
Fuck you
the weight may not make any improvement in angle... but id think it would help with traction... think a traction test is in order
Kevin I really appreciate you mentioning me and the link. Thank you!!
Is the long arm kit worth it?
I'm liking mine.
I run a lightweight 1'400mah 50C 3S LiPo when I'm rock crawling, and a 3S 5'000mah 50C when I'm trail driving. It helps the overall C.G. greatly!!!
Thank you for actually showing the installation of the portal axle brass hubs nice job
Thank you for taking the time to make this very helpful video. I just bought the Traxxas Bronco. I won't be buying any of these mods. Thank you for saving me money! :)
I think the big thing with brass portals is that when you are flexing out on a rock or obstacle that it helps settle the tires back down on the terrain easier and quicker than not having the weight. I don't see a big improvement in climbing ability, but more stability on uneven terrain.
Kevin, I love your Passion and Energy. I dig your accent, although it can be a little difficult/impossible to make out all words, I have no trouble following your program.
Definitely one of the best.
you talk to fast, 99 percent of you tubers do and I just do not know why, a 10 percent would be great
Greg Plaka did you know rl that the average person’s ability to listen is far greater than the fastest talker can talk? Where does that put you?
Thank you for spending your money, time and efforts in performing these tests/comparisons!!! You are very scientific and exacting as possible! Great stuff, Kevin.
Really great video!
Focusing on my shell weight gives me the most reward in performance.
No need to post for wheels and brass at this point.
Thank you for the breakdown and performance! Cheers 🤟
For ascending, adding the weight to the front only will be more effective than all the way around. It may also help with the side slope since the front is not overdriven.
I thought the extra weight low would keep it planted better too. This really proves shaving weight at the top is much more effective than trying to compensate by adding weight to the bottom.
I wasn't completely accurate. We didn't get to see what it was stock, just lightweight body no upgrades was. What Was the progression of change just lightweight body?
True comment. Exo is as real as it gets! Love your channel! Seems like your channel was a mom spider that xploded and millions of others appeared in your area. Good for you
But... but... the Defender Body looks soooo good!!! Great Test Kev!!!
Awesome video I was thinking about doing the same thing and now that I see it I might rethink it so thank you😁
Crim Land agreed
I love this kind of comparison. I would love to see some more with big basher monster trucks , and some with some racing parts on track racers of all scales and catigories . I found this to very informative. Keep up the incredibly good work bro . And please please please do more like this
I love your videos Kevin!
You try new things, your entertaining, funny, educational and of course, you love RCs!!!!
Keep up the good work! You have my support!!! ❤❤🖒🖒😉
Preload your rear shocks, and retest the highest incline #'s, it's worth it ;)
For the climb, you should try swapping the spare tyre location to on the bonnet.
Subscribed, i like seeing numbers not just video footage side by side of before and after, especially to the ones who do outdoors course and you can see the difference of weather. I like your tests, make it one less variable to change that, along with actual numbers
I'd like to see wheel wights on the front only with the softer tires combo Kev. That said - good vid man :)
good video. I had a trx4 land rover body on mine . I done very similar mods but I restricted the shocks by 6mm spacer under the shock piston . made a massive difference aswell. keep up the good work.
wondering what would happen if the wheel weight's where only fitted on the front as is seems its the front that lifting? And add some weight along the front crossmember to keep the front down.
That's what I'd have liked to see on the front only. Side climb would most likely be the same but straight climb you'd hope would be better. If not, best not waste your money
@@BlueDroneBlues the weight may not make any improvement in angle... but id think it would help with traction... think a traction test is in order
Good Job !
In vertical test you should use a less flexible board, because the vehicle weight causes flexion and changes the real angle of some degrees (this is the reason all vehicles have problems in the middle of the board and not at the beginning).
But this changes only real values, not the great job and the overall results !
I never see you be this gentle on any of your trucks....lol....great vid tho 👍
Cool video my man , you always thnk outside the box and do stuff out of ordinary. K.O.R.H. and you are my top rc channels. Need more xmaxx , lol
Ik it’s a old vid but does anyone know where he got the brass weights for the portals?
This may sound crazy but it worked for me. The inside of the bumpers are hollow. Mold aluminum foil to the inside of bumpers. Take lead fishing wights and heat. Pour melted lead into aluminum mold. Remove aluminum and super glue lead molds to inside of bumpers. There are other places on trx4 you can also do this.
Wade Caton that’s a smart idea... I’m gonna have to check that myself as well.
Wade Caton let me just get my molten lead
I suggest a redo of the test.
With the suspension adjusted. Give 7mm of preload up front and 5mm in the rear. When they are set in the middle like how those seemed to be the truck leans and tips much easier. Ever since I lowered my preload and added 2.5oz of weight to each corner it climbs hills and sidehils like crazy.
the problem with that uphill one was that when it got to the middle the weight of the truck made the board flex making the top part even steeper making it tip over. But overall nice vid
lame
Great video man thanks for the Quality Control👍🏼🏆
Hey Kevin!! Awesome video!!! Going to buy the weights too..
What?!? Lol I was already subbed to exo cage. Lol awesome!
These videos are the best
Kevin highlighted my comment omg
I also can't ditch the body I like the look. I'll just add aluminum and brass all over down low and get the Lipo lower and deal with it. check out the weighted front bumper mount that has adjustable brass inserts and some steal bumpers
The swap to the brass and the rims and tires added about 1.3 lbs or .59 kg.... not bad 👌
the way you installed the brass parts, is for a lower center of gravity. to affect climbing you want the weight up front. It'd be nice to see the test with the brass up front only, and the spare of the truck then compare it to the light body.
I think those body's overpower what the difference might be per item. Had you used the light weight body during each part upgrade, you might have gotten the results you wanted. It sells those items short. Lighter body put the overall weight more pro to proper detail per each upgrade..
Putting brass portals on the back will cancel out the extra weight advantage added by the front ones surely?
cool but was thinking for more degrees that stock,,, good work kevin
Thank you for sharing this was awesome you have a Merry Christmas happy new year keep it fun and keep it safe
Another great video Kevin keep it up😊
hey kev. what do you think about filling your tires with water? did it once with an scx 10 and out crawled everything else out there.
tae BBs instead of water, same effect without rotting and rusting stuff
what is the best 3 cell lipo for my traxxas trx-4, now I got a traxxas 5000 3s 25c lipo but after 1 year I got just the half of the promesed runtime. ruurt from the netherlands. can you please help me out.
I think the brass covers would make a bigger difference in a situation where you are flexing back and forth a lot and need the extra weight to keep the tires on the ground for traction
The shocks do that hopefully tho
Good video man .... FYI the last couple videos they didn't notify me. And where can I get some of your stickers ?
So my bronco should perform better then the defender
I was thinking at the beginning of the video take the spare wheel off
You gonna put the wider shafts in this truck too?
Great video man. Great channel keep up the great work. After watching some of your videos I went and picked up the TRX 4 with the ford bronco body. It's a great out of the box rig. I'm running a 12 volt cordless drill motor in it at the moment and did the steering servo upgrade to a 277 oz. in. Servo as well as a bigger set of tires on 2.2 rims. What would you say would be the next best thing to upgrade on this RC. Been thinking of going brushless but really like to crawl around my course I have set up. But like to do a little bashing to. Any input or thoughts would be great thanks
Also try switching your shock fluid to a thicker one, that would help with body roll.
tried that before it didn't make any difference, stiffer springs do tho
Need a sway bar installed on it in the front any way it’s leaning so bad it’s twisting the body up on the upper side causing more wait transfer
Awsome video man you should do more videos like this
Great video and surprising results.
You should get a twin hammers dt 1.9 it's a amazing rock racer and basher all it needs is one aluminum part and it's indestrctbe and can be turned in to a 2 speed and can go brushless and just looks stunning I have one my self by the way
One aluminium part to be indestructible???? Pmsl
Cam you post a link for the brass portal covers thanks
he told me to tell you no he will not said to me look it up
Link for your drivers you used with your drill.
Can you please post a link for the hex bits you use?
Excellent video bud, are they fasttrax parts?
OK ,being a total Knoob to all things RC and wanting to start a new hobby i think i want a crawler rather than a basher., all the stuff i've looked at seems to point me the the TRX 4 but alot of the vids are on the older side, is this still a good buy in 2021???
It is, but keep in mind that this comparison is abit off. If you want to do more technical crawling/climbing, go for the Sport version, if trailing with moderate crawling is your thing than go for the Defender imho.
great video kev, why don't you try doing a water crossing with the trx 4.
Ryan watch my videos on water crossing
no one:
kevin talbot: using an xmaxx for crawling and a trx4 for bashing
The first trial for the tilt test with the raptor body was higher than the 2nd test so it probably did just a couple more degrees
(Go to 16:04 and skip 10 seconds, you’ll see a light difference in the Ramps angle)
Add a front over drive setup and that should help you in each of your tests
who makes the aluminum beadlocks you put on the TRX 4
Kevin not bad its a start but I got you blown out of the water with incline degrees. Check out my trx4 testing and I am loading a new one now with a 2.2 tire incline test..And I'm not using grippy foam incline. I'm using a sheet of 1/2 drywall :-0 As always great video and testing ;-)
what degree did you get and what mods?
2.2 testing is uploaded..No purchased mods just one simple tweak ;-) Check it out. I'm guessing may 65+degree's give or take a few, I say give a few ;-)
I want to see a test where you take the foam out of the tires and put a bunch of BB's or lead shot or water inside the tires and see what that does..
Taller tires up set c.o.g..best bet keep chassis low or run flat irons for more better stance
I love your videos so much
Damn it, I always end up watching your vids. Just sibscribed.
welcome aboard dude :)
I am building a monster slash and it sucks up my money like a black hole, maybe when it's done I'll get trx4. I've wanted one since they came out but I don't have much money.
Also doesn't seem to be any links to amazon for your tool's.
What about stiffer shocks..could make a difference
Hey Kevin what do U have a link for power tool Allen keys
how much effect would have the spare wheel have had?
Even though it's unsprung weight, would stiffening the suspension make a difference?
Yes
Did you set the esc to crawler mode before you did this test?
What body is the raptor one like what car is it for
What type of weels are you upgrading to
Great video !👍❤
I WAS GUNNA DO THIS VIDEO< DAMN YOU LOL love the info though! Great work!!!
Do it anyway dude :)
Can I have the link for the wheel weights
I would image these weights are for bounce
the lcg bowhouse battery tray is a good start
Looks good but can it take my size lipos?
Kevin Talbot yeah I do believe so there are some videos if I'm right
Kevin Talbot I think you may have to trim the shock frame brace though if they are long
For longer packs, you can either get our companion rear chassis brace or trim the stock one. 👍
Rustler top speed vids!
Take the heavyweights out of the back. And see if there's a difference?
Nice video 👍👌👍
These are great tests, but they do not show all of the advantages that the brass weights and heavier wheels provide. More weight translates to more grip and less slippage (wheel spinning). This is very noticeable when cresting over a rock ledge or dirt ridge. The added weight also helps your suspension decompress to it's fullest extent when a wheel is floating in mid air and you want it to connect to the ground. Finally when the truck hits a bump and bounces the heavier un-sprung weight keeps the tires more in contact with the ground while the body (over spring weight) jostles around. None of this is covered by these tests and are very important when it comes to competitions and trailing performance. These tests did show improvements and if you think a couple of degrees doesn't make a difference then go stand on a 4 degree road and a 6 degree one. You will feel it in the different way you have to stand and walk on the two different roads (yes, I live in a mountainous area).
If you add the same weight on the left and right or front and rear nothing will change, you would fair better in real world than in controlled environment. That brass looks nice though lol
SoleEpiphany wrong. He's trying to achieve a lower center of gravity. Adding weight lower achieves that no?
Make Nitro Great Again not technically if u think about it the more Weight u have even if it’s low when ur crawling if the parts u weighted down is on the higher incline it’s still going to flip bc of the extra weight being higher
Where is the link for the drill and drill bits
What paint do you use
Can u add the link for the bits please
Where did you get that ford body?
its a proline raptor for savage or revo
Kevin Talbot ok thanks!
I know this is old but thicker stiffer shocks for side angles so it don’t lean as hard
You need yourself an assistant. Yes, next video please have your cheerleader, in uniform, helping you and us...we'll all be happy. Peace Out from Spokane, Washington, USA
why does your audio sound like an AM transistor radio
Nitros yet?
great video.
Want to see overdrive differences❤
mitutoyo angle gauge from a combination square set. nice tool $$
Just got a traxxas rustler xl5 for Xmas
You could have achieved way better #’s by simply adjusting your suspension and/or wrapping some lead wire on the front wheels, also different stage foams make a difference in balance as well. I’ll keep it as stock as possible and blow away guys that spend thousands on their rigs.