I too have listened to this performance and piece obsessively and this rendering just peels the skin off my face. I tried resisting the urge to comment. I don't know about performance practices with Beethoven and this in particular but the feeling of total chaos and cacophony on the verge of complete disorder is so yummy to me here. It's like a foray into the composer's innermost at the end of his days. Definitely a "balls to wall" offering!
It is a question that has been raised and is a good one. I believe it has to do with playing the first note with a nudge and under the same bow play the tied note a touch as if you are feeling a nudge, be it of sadness, melancholy or pain, it would be up to that moment in the piece. (But would they let me conduct the Berlin... nnnnnNNOOOOoooo, so I sit here and only share my secrets with those who have the intelligence to observe and ask) and that's THAT! but honestly, I think that's what our beloved LvanB is asking for with this writing. An effect in the way it sounds. I could be totally wrong and I'm sure some academic out there, if they even read this, will point out my error from their point of view (which is wrong anyway as ALL academics are simply functionally adequate brains with no talent). It's a long standing and great question. Playing the notes sort of separately but under one bow, sort of, kinda like.
I'm reading these accolades, so this must be great music. While I love Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Bach,Chopin, etc etc. I can't seem to "get" this piece!
Mozart by the way has one "strange" quartet too. It's no19, called "Dissonance". Atonal introduction reminds me Shostakovich. But it is very beautiful. After this short atonal introduction starts normal Mozart's music, like Mozart saying: "relax guys I'm just kidding!"
As does everybody. This is a super genius putting his best of the best of the best forward. It's going to take a while. I've been listening to it since 1978 or so. It just keeps getting better. That's what's so splendid about it. It is also a severe heavy weight for the players to lift. So intonation can become shaky, even for international level musicians. Beethoven was a 1st class brat and did things tongue and cheek under the guise of being ultra sophisticated. Technical difficulty, to him, was a game. Same can be said of all the truly great and highly skilled composers.
@@barney6888 Your comment about listening to it since 1978 reminds me of Stravinsky's famous quote: "[The Great Fugue is an] absolutely contemporary piece that will be contemporary forever." I would say that assessment still holds up over a century later!
DEEPLY PENETRATING POWERFUL PERFORMANCE ! THANKS A LOT FOR POSTING THIS WONDERFUL PERFORMANCE
This music was published 1826. It sounds like it could have been released last year.
I have listened to the Grand Fugue just some fifty times, and I am already beginning to like it. This was a noble performance, thank you!
I too have listened to this performance and piece obsessively and this rendering just peels the skin off my face. I tried resisting the urge to comment. I don't know about performance practices with Beethoven and this in particular but the feeling of total chaos and cacophony on the verge of complete disorder is so yummy to me here. It's like a foray into the composer's innermost at the end of his days. Definitely a "balls to wall" offering!
Beethoven,the maximum,this quartet is a signal of his genius, uncomparable,that is a gift from heaven,brother.😮
Thank you for bringing this great work to a public who doesn't hear late Beethoven and his genius.
my my this beethoven guy seems to have talent
Amazing performance and interpretation of this masterpiece. Areta is a MONSTER on Vln1.
If B had just composed the string quarters and nothing else he would still be famous
Amazing interpretation, thank you so much!
Incredible.
기립박수 와우 베토벤이 살아놨다
This certainly presaged the modernist era.
Bravo!
Brillliant
Why did Beethoven write the quarter beats as 2 tied eighth notes?
It is a question that has been raised and is a good one. I believe it has to do with playing the first note with a nudge and under the same bow play the tied note a touch as if you are feeling a nudge, be it of sadness, melancholy or pain, it would be up to that moment in the piece.
(But would they let me conduct the Berlin... nnnnnNNOOOOoooo, so I sit here and only share my secrets with those who have the intelligence to observe and ask)
and that's THAT!
but honestly, I think that's what our beloved LvanB is asking for with this writing. An effect in the way it sounds. I could be totally wrong and I'm sure some academic out there, if they even read this, will point out my error from their point of view (which is wrong anyway as ALL academics are simply functionally adequate brains with no talent).
It's a long standing and great question.
Playing the notes sort of separately but under one bow, sort of, kinda like.
@@barney6888 Thanks!
ジュリアードＳＱとな！ロバート・マンは、イシドア・コーエンは、ラファエル・ヒリアーは、クラウス・アダムは何処へ行った？
minna kiete simatayo
ロバート・マンが引退した時点で解散しておけばよかったのです。
メンバーが交代してもそれまでの演奏スタイルを継承するなら名前を名乗り続けてもよかったのでしょうが、単に若手に交代して頑張りますというだけなら、名前を全く新しくするか、せめて「新ジュリアードSQ」にすべきでしょうね。
結局、ロバート・マン時代の名声・遺産を利用して生きのびていこうとするだけの団体になってしまったということでしょう。
I'm reading these accolades, so this must be great music.
While I love Mozart, Schubert, Brahms, Bach,Chopin, etc etc.
I can't seem to "get" this piece!
Mozart by the way has one "strange" quartet too. It's no19, called "Dissonance". Atonal introduction reminds me Shostakovich. But it is very beautiful. After this short atonal introduction starts normal Mozart's music, like Mozart saying: "relax guys I'm just kidding!"
As does everybody. This is a super genius putting his best of the best of the best forward. It's going to take a while. I've been listening to it since 1978 or so. It just keeps getting better. That's what's so splendid about it.
It is also a severe heavy weight for the players to lift. So intonation can become shaky, even for international level musicians. Beethoven was a 1st class brat and did things tongue and cheek under the guise of being ultra sophisticated. Technical difficulty, to him, was a game. Same can be said of all the truly great and highly skilled composers.
@@barney6888 Your comment about listening to it since 1978 reminds me of Stravinsky's famous quote: "[The Great Fugue is an] absolutely contemporary piece that will be contemporary forever." I would say that assessment still holds up over a century later!
五月蝿い演奏だ
言い得て妙！
その通りですね。「真剣に弾く」ということについて勘違いしていると思います。幼稚な真剣さとでもいうか・・・
A mayfly performance? What do you mean by that
Suena a Pearl Jam, Nirvana, a Neil Young. Es increíble cómo iba por delante de la música!