Shadow Lands - Map Detailed (Game of Thrones)
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- The Shadow Lands beyond Asshai map from Game of Thrones / A Song of Ice and Fire explained
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Sometimes I forget none of these places really exist and I should stop wishing someone would explore them.
Same
feel you 😭
Was just thinking that lol
I know how you feel bud
Darth Wiffy damn u should call ur dad
Still can't believe Daenerys never even tried to seek out the guy who gave her the eggs. "Thanks for giving me the most valuable and rare items in the world, and like, changing my life and stuff."
wanderingseth
It’s one of those times I don’t know whether to blame the character or blame the writers.
Can any book readers confirm if daenerys didn't seek out the egg givers?
Eto Waifumura I’m almost done with the third, and she still has yet to
@@etowaifumura4952 Eto Waifumura i've read the books and i'm pretty sure that Daenerys didn't seek out the guy who gave her the eggs ( who i believe it was Illiryo Mopatis) because at that time they were just incredible precious stones, because everyone believed that the eggs were "dead".
She hasn't so far. I don't see it happening either. She's on that "destiny" kick.
I wish we could get a spin-off about those places, especially Shadow Lands and Sothoryos.
@@maartenwinkelmans1032 lol yeah but thats gonna be westeros centered as well, about the first men and children of the forest i believe
More backstory and in-depth exploration would rob those places of the mystery that makes GRRM's world so special. I would prefer to have a familiar POV character go to one of those places briefly. Like if we saw Dany's perspective of a quick visit to Asshai or Tyrion's perspective on an diplomatic trip to Yi Ti
@beanie0112 no
Maybe Ayra will go explore it since she sets sail east at the end of the series
JackSndAceS he’s gotta live long enough to finish the main series...which isnt likely in the first place...unfortunately...
Asshai and the Shadowlands, in my opinion, are some of the most interesting places in the A Song of Ice & Fire world. They're so steeped in history and mystery.
OneOnOne1162 and north of there with the 5 castles I think
Or, perhaps, they seem interesting precisely because how little is actually known about them.
Remeber how Lost TV show seemed interesting at the time?
and they should remain this way, no matter how tempting
The mystery literally exists because GRRM hasnt thought of anything xD
Agree I want to know about the dragons that are supposed to be there
So this is the place where Dark Souls was created
Nah its a manga series called Berserk check it out if you like ASOIAF you will love Berserk trust me!
@@Akaya7777 u think Martin believe Griffith did something wrong ?
Derek Goñi Esquivel lol thats a good one probably not 😂
Logan Hoomana Oh cool whats berserk
*googles it, sees anime*
GET THE FUCK OFF MY COMPUTER SWINE
@@thebeatleswin1 the manga is way better, but I'm seriously afraid that the author might not finish it. I'd recommend it to anyone who likes dark fantasy. I'm not the biggest fan of anime/manga, but I love Berserk.
Imagine a GoT spin-off where we're given a group of characters that explore all these places
😮
Possibly a arya series where she goes west but west is east and finds the further east of essos and she explores the shadow lands along with ulthos maybe even sothoryos
@@virtualunreality3771 thats what Columbus thought and found a whole new continent
like gilligans island?
@@virtualunreality3771 nah fuck that little cunt, we want real hardcore adventurers different skills and back stories exploring the world , that would be a lot more interesting than bitch ass Arya
nine voyages of Corlys Velaryon. he reaches Asshai and sees the boat of Alyssa Farman who stole three dragon eggs from house targaryen during the reign of King Jaehaerys I. many believe the three dragon eggs she stole are the petrified eggs Daenerys gets later in the story. And those eggs could be hatchlings from Balerion and Vhagar!
I get the feeling the Shadowlands is the result of an ancient magic/science project gone wrong.
the seemingly radioactive water and deformed fish would certainly imply a scifi cause
Could have to do with the Doom of Valyria, first the shadow lands became the shadow lands, then a couple hundred/thousand years later same thing happens to Valyria, now people are looking to do the same to Westeros
Failed alchemy
@@KingfisherMC Asshai and Shadowlands are probably waaay older than Valyria.
@@KingfisherMC dragons came to valyria from ashaii. They could have been immigrating to get away from a doom in ashaii, and then would do the same for valyria. They could be still around somewhere else
Asshai seems like a wonderful place to live. No children, dark, weird people. I’m for it.
It's possible they hide the children
@@TheMrPeteChannel they use them for slavery
Also as Martin warns, these places are on the other side of the world and the descriptions of them are through the eyes of maesters in the Citadel which might be very flawed.
Still, Asshai sounds like one of the creepiest places ever. Reminds me of Lovecraft.
What's so bad about children?
I'm with you. Let's make sail for the Shadow Lands.
One thing I would especially like is a full, global map of Planetos, just to see what it looks like from space. Circumstantial evidence suggests the Saffron Strait cuts from the Jade Sea to the Sunset Sea, with the Shadow Lands area being the eastern end of the continent, but pretty much everything we see except maybe Sothoryos is in the northern hemisphere, there's enough room for multiple continents in the completely blank space, and I'd really like to know what's there.
I always took the saffron straits as cutting into the eastern part of essos and ending, with Essos stretching further over. Seen some, fan made, maps of a continent of Easteros past that. I really like the idea that the section of the world we've seen in maps is like a quarter, or less, of the planet.
@@DracoSafarius those fans missed the obvious, Essos and 'Easteros' are the same thing but George obviously thought Essos sounded better
@@FieryFlamingFajitas Eh yes and no. In what I'm talking about they literally expanded the map to where Essos stretched off and another continent emerged, akin to Europe and Asia or North America and South America
this all sounds post apocalyptic like there once lived a far more technologically advanced civilization and something happened
I am beginning to think the same thing, that ASOIAF is actually a part of Georges 1000 worlds story
he swears up and down thats not the case but i am starting to wonder
More likely magically advanced than technological. And with all the similarities to Lovecraftian mythos, I’d suggest that a disaster related to some ancient horror is responsible for the state of Asshai or perhaps something similar to what happened to Old Valyria
More likely magically advanced than technological. And with all the similarities to Lovecraftian mythos, I’d suggest that a disaster related to some ancient horror is responsible for the state of Asshai or perhaps something similar to what happened to Old Valyria
@@aunabdullahaziz7977 Well as the saying goes "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
7:44 he activated eminem mode for a sec
LOLOL
Finally the Sahdow Lands!!! I just want a full tour of this area! It seems so much more "dark and creepy" than our westeros hahaha Keep up the good stuff bro 💙
Maybe they'll do something with it in the prequel they're making. Im keeping my fingers crossed! I wanna know more about sothoryos and asshai
@The Knight with how weird the only person from there is (melisandre) , those things are quite likely to be true.
The Shadow lands are the only place in ASoI&F that I can't associate with a real world country. I personally believe Asshai is actually based of the Greek Underworld.
Woah, mind blown !
The reason why the Shadowlands are mysterious, is because the people in Westeros amd Essos had never been there and explore it to the fullest. Remember, the world takes place in medieval time.
The Shadowlands kinda looks like India. Back when India hasnt been explored by Europeans, they thought the land are full of mysteries with giant creatures, that we now know to be elephants.
Shaped like India, around since the begining of civilization, polluted rivers, mostly unknown to Westeros... looks like India equivalent to me.
True that. I mean there is an area called Stygai, which pretty sure takes the name from the river Styx of the Greek Mythology.
@@voltairethegoldflame9280 Maybe shaped like India but the description of the land is far from India.
Carcosa is a reference to the "King in Yellow" written by Robert W. Chambers and published in 1895.
Nice.
The devil. A personification of evil. Great series explained through the show True Detective season 1.
True but he used Carcosa from Ambrose Bierce's "An inhabitant of Carcosa". Still love that he used Carcosa in this.
@@bryanwinebrenner3274 Thank you. I had never heard or read that before your suggestion. To find that Carcosa is older than I believed was a joy.
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Stygai feels a bit like Minas Morgul from Lotr, so I would definitely be interested in visiting. Also, Tolkien does mention fields of poisonous, pale flowers growing in the valley below that city, which sounds a bit like ghost grass in the Shadow Lands. Just nice little connections all around :D
The Golden Empire of Yi Ti next!
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I think I've talked about them a couple times now? Probably in my kingsguard video or the Crownlands one
I think Asshai is sort of like what Asia was to the Medieval Europeans. They knew about it and traded with it sometimes but it was so far away that hardly anyone ever went and so what they thought about it was more legend than fact
what´s interesting about Asshai is that the title about a very ancient city before anything in the world also applies to K´Dath at northeastern Essos and Yeen at Sothoryos, but also could be linked with the ruins at inner Leng jungles, the ruins at Ullos nearby to Ulthos, the ruins at the Toad Island nearby Sothoryos, the forbidden dead city of Stygai, the mazes of Lorath, the foundations of the tower of Ancient City, and the unknown cities of the farthest east closer to the Inner Sea as Carcossa, the Winged Men city, and the cities of Bloddless Men, all of them very linked with some eerie common background.
It's worth noting that the descriptions of these lands are from the perspective of Westerosi travellers/scholars, and aren't meant by GRRM to be the real lore. Just like in our real world timeline, the further away from 'Western' civilisation, the less people knew about the far away lands and thus wild interpretations were made. This is why the further from Westeros you go, the descriptions become less accurate and more fantastical
Really like all the weird things exist in the unexplored world
Asshai sounds like my neighbor, a big mansion style building, never saw anyone leave or enter the building. Even at night, the lights are off but there are cars parked inside. 😨
Check if he is even alive lol
Whatever you do don't eat his lawn
Euron Greyjoy probably been there. I seem to remember him saying that while venturing into the unknown, he saw things he couldn't explain.
It's ironic that theres a place called the mountains of the morn in the lore when the game of thrones show was filmed around the Mourne mountains in northern Ireland.
It would be cool if Drogon brought Dany to the shaddow lands to revive her. And they both come back with a from there to westeros. This time Drogon fully grown. And capture westeros from Bran "the broken"
That would be like a crazy wight queen with a giant ass dragon, no thanks! XD
André Fagerberg That would be cool tho because he flew off with her and nobody knows where he went. Even when he left the first time, no one really knew where he was. Just that he was out exploring. A new spinoff should have him flying there with her and she being brought back just like they did Jon but in a different setting.
Oh you mean burn down another city?
@@awaywiththefaeries9464 hey visenya do you want an alliance with the Lannisters
King Lynel Better then than Daenerys.
I always forget that Danys dragons come from old stock out of the shadowlands, and not relics from valyria.
Asshai to me sounds like another Lovecraft nod, like the drowned god. An ancient city so massive and old no one knows anything about it's origins. Love this kind of stuff I am sad he doesn't want to explore these areas further in a story but also glad the mystery will remain.
I always thought Dany would definitely go to Asshai, just to be presented with a choice that would shape the rest of her arc. Like, that's literally what Quaithe tells her to do over and over. I think that was the point of getting her away from Mereen. She might team up with the Dothraki and fly past the Moon mountains on Drogon's back.
The one who was whispering in the mad king's ear was cthulu. The WW are on the good side. The Asshai, dragons, faceless man, god of death, rhllor, 3eyed raven are on the evil side. GJ, Arya. You just destroyed the last hope of light.
Nah bro to kill Chuthullu you just need a boat now imagine what an entire fleet could do
@@vherox3826 That didn't kill him, just bonked him back into the sea for a while
Ok I go through these phases where I’m super into the lore of GOT so Thank you for all of this content, your doing an awesome job
Considering that magic is allegedly strong there.
There must be a small population of dragons.
Since animals and plant life can't thrive there.
It's kind of hard to tell tho.
Great video, and very thorough. I especially like that you noted the difference between the Shadow Men and Asshai'i. Most people ignore that, and think the people who taught the Valyrians were Asshai'i.
Another fantastic episode. Thank you.
I want a spin off so badly. Would be amazing if Maisie williams were willing to do a spin off of arya exploring the world
I have a theory as to why the world seemingly ends at the Shadowlands, and why it's so dark and inhospitable there. This also explains the horrible winter Westeros experiences with decades between summer and true winter. I believe the planet is rotating on its side (like uranus) BUT it is not orbitally locked (unlike uranus), meaning the planet wobbles on its axis, with Westeros being near its sun-facing pole, but just south of it enough that it experiences micro seasons (think greenland). The shadowlands reside just south of the planet's rotational equator, meaning the sun bearly rises above the horizon save for a few brief periods during the "year". Now this means that over one orbit around its star, which I believe takes decades instead of a mere year, the axis fluctuates. Also this setup means that for 95% of the planets travel around the sun westerose is experiencing a relatively normal sunrise/ sunset reality, but at those two critical points where the pole westerose is either directly facing the sun (imagine greenland or antartica at the height of their summers) or facing away from its star, is when the joyous life giving summer happens with a few years of boundless sun, good crops, warmth and short nights and the opposite the dark long night. The wobbling axis would explain the variations in how long the winters last and why some are darker and longer then others. Past the shadow lands I imagine the exact same reality would befall whatever land is hugging the opposite pole of the planet.
Can you detail Middle-Earth after finishing ASOIAF?
Maybe? I would have to get back into Lotr
whycreate I would pay for that
whycreate you should, that would be amazing
Thank you so much for this video, please do more unexplored areas like this in your videos!
I love stuff like this! Keep it up man! I’m definitely subscribing!
This is just me but I believe that all of the blackstone structures, such as the throne in the iron isles and asshai, were made by a long lost empire that was mostly situated to the east, maybe one of their main cities, or possibly even capital being asshai, but seeing as the meteors that these black stone things were in were almost definitely powerful in their own right, most likely containing large amounts of dark magic seeing as asshai is one of the most magical places in the world and the fact that the bloodstone emperor of Yi Ti often practiced with them. Anyway, they might’ve gotten too egotistical or whatnot and got a bit more risky with their experimenting and had some giant magical disaster take place, destroying their empire in one blow and causing the shadowlands to form, the only place being safe being Asshai, the city made out of black-stone. One thing I like to think is true is that this cataclysm caused the wildlife to become mutated wherever the black-stone was and make the local wildlife into hideous monsters such as dragons and whatnot, maybe this even made Sothoryos what it is today.
I know this is a commonly believed theory but I just wanted to lay it out for people.
I love these videos ! Thanks for making them!
A global empire that preceded the valyrians originating from asshai?
Many civilizations precede Valyria. The Great Empire of Dawn, Yi Ti and Old Ghis are just some.
-None with its sphere of influence reaching old town or the iron islands.
-Where the citadel tower base and the seastone chair are with both being made out of the same oily black stone the buildings in asshai are made of.
-Also dragon skeletons in westeros. Might be remnants of this asshai empire.
Genetix yes very true! I wonder about the connection of this black stone. But aren't the dragons in Westeros the remnants of Targaryon rule. I don't know if House Valaryon had any dragons but maybe since they are the only other full Valyrian bloodline in Westeros, i believe.
Some guy wrote a theory like that years ago on Reddit. It explained the black stone, the proliferation of dragons, and so much more.
Love your videos Man keep up the amazing work 👍👍
I think that this is the most intresting video in the series map detailed
A book/show/movie about the Shawdowlands would be epic. I wonder since GRRM doesn't seem to want to write about this, if he would be will to sign the rights to someone who would? Great work, thanks for the post.
I don't think he will sell the rights for this. He has already stated that the world was mysterious on purpose.
He will not allow anyone to finish the books for him if he dies before completing them, so chances of this happening are less than zero.
the whole point is he wants to keep it mysterious by not writing about it, so he’s not going to sign the rights to anyone unfortunately
Ha fella love all the details from your Videos on GoT give a great insight thanks!!! Keep making then.
Love how you used an Ayleïd Ruin from ESO for Stygai 😂
Keep the videos coming
I always wondering that further north of land of always winter is somehow connected with grey waste in further east of essos. Is it coincidence both of place had been through long night in same period, one was caused by bloodstone emperor & the rest was caused by war between first men and children of forest
Westeros resembles Great Britain so I doubt it connects to Essos.
Britain used to be connected to Europe and Scandinavia, it was called doggerland.
But wouldn't it be cooler if there were tons more civilizations with ancient history
@@ninjahitman6043 Great empire of le dawn Vs Valyria vs Shadora
The thumbnail of this video is literally one of my computer backgrounds!
Thank you for the video and the time that take you
5:18 I guess the last episode was filmed in Stygi then
The birthplace of dragons
Would love a series on this
Is the sorcerer lord named the Yellow King? Cause that would tops! A true detective/Carcosa literary tie in would be so cool.
LOL "Send a raven to ya number one Lady, Melisandre that got that work, that yellow crystal!" 😉😉😎
Carcosa and the Yellow King was already a literary tie in when True Detective used it, it seems a lot of science fiction and horror writers use it in their works, which means whatever is there in Ice and Fire is probably just as bad if not worse than what’s in the Shadow Lands
I like your channel it's dope
Great video keep it up!!
Sounds like a parrellel with the wall. The wall=The Five Forts.
The lands of always winter=The shadow lands.
Its like there are flame monsters and they are trying go to war against the whitewalkers and all humanity is caught inbetween.
I wonder if the ghost grass spreading across the region and killing of all plants and stuff is evidence on the Essos continent of winter returning, just as it is doing in Westeros with the Others return
Rose of Red Lake Yeah I always thought the white grass was a metahpor for whitewalkers, maybe the book will clarify these things but I dont mind it being left as a mystery either.
The less known about the shadow land the better so exciting to think about all the mysteries
awesome video good sir!
Awesome video like always. It's killing me though, where'd you get that picture you used for Stygai? It's the exterior of an Elder Scrolls dungeon, right?
Nice video man
Is there anything east of the shadow lands? There is like a line where the map ends at Essos where it just cuts off the land and doesn’t stop atthe sea like everything else with the exception of Sothyros and the Far North
Carcosa? King in Yellow, is that you?
I’d really like the Shadowlands and the Mountains of the Morn to be expanded upon. Lots of mystery to them.
the Maker, GRRMartin should flesh them out in separate stories =) man, good video. keep it up
Thank you for this. I love the part of the world.
If I may just point out one point o correction: it's true that Mellisandra is from Asshai, but not Quaithe. She is "of The Shadow". GRRM has made the very clear distinction in he books between "Asshai BY the Shadow" and "The Shadow" itself. Not the same place, though they are near and associated.
But then again it states that she visited ashai and also that she learned her magic there.
Sounds like The Shadow was hit by nuclear radiation
Omg could you imagine if they made a show of the shadow lands it would be amazing
Could you imagine if we got spin-offs of places like Ib, The Summer Isles, Sothoryos, Ulthos, The Shadow Lands, YiTi, etc. So much potential being wasted :(
Everyone: dragons are extinct!
SoFaI: they still live in Aschai.
I really do want to see this place in the prequel show
Asshai is definitely a nuclear wasteland.
great video
Hi just wondering what the font you use in your videos for titles like "Asshai" is
Love your videos! You, bridge4, and Alt Shift X are pretty much the only GoT/asoif video creators that I watch lol
Check out "secrets of the citadel" and "order of the green hand". Amazing stuff.
Thanks the vid was fun
I believe that the reason because westeros feels so lame compared to the far east is because the story is being told from the point of view of westeros/western essos. So, since almost no one has seen the far east and because of the lack of documented history, the stories become exaggerated. This is similar to hundreds of years ago when tales became exaggerated because of how isolated places were compared to present day.
There were giants in Argentina
Pretty sure that Stygai photo example at 5:23 is from the Elder Scrolls Online video game! :D
The stygai picture is from TES IV ;) I would recognize it anywhere
"Beyond the veil, lies the shadow lands where every soul has its place"
I wonder if shattering the Night King's crown opens the rift to these Shadowlands as well.
Will you do a updated video on all the new information over the past 4 years?
i wish we knew more about ulthos
you still wish for that?
Great video. Wanted to point out a spelling error though starting at 1:47 "randon plaes"
Hopefully future GOT can cover the entire world.
Nice
We need A sequel where Arya go an explore these lands😭♥️
Do you think further north than the lands of always winter there are ice dragons because George RR Martin wrote a story called the ice dragon also love your vids
Even in asoiaf there's talks of ice dragons between characters. I feel like they were added into the story only for world building and to sprinkle in some mystery, that all readers love. Plus I dont think there's enough time for something that drastic to be added in so late into the story :(
whycreate I guess I wish they spent more time further north imagine an army of ice dragons aswell as viserion and thanks for replying
Someone else could write about them after our current story is finished, GRRM does have others writing. @@whycreate
In the shivering sea there are ice dragons,and they are FAR BIGGER then valyrian dragons,or fire dragons in general
@@whycreate Yeah I agree. Imagine after all these stories of the books he said Nice story eh ?
Eastern Essos gives me goosebumps. It’s such a strange and creepy place
Bro.
Did you ever make the map of Carcosa and the city of winged man???
Such interesting locations.
Thanks.
I need to see a series that explores the shadow lands
Dothraki: we fear no man
Grass: exists
Dothraki: well shit
I'mma throw out the possibility that the black stone was possibly mined in the shadow lands, since it seems to basically be one of the world's few places that is akin to death incarnate. Near a colossal titan of a city in Asshai, which is a port for trade, and also close enough to Yi Ti for them to have mined somewhere in there under their first ruler's reign to build the five fortresses.
Is it a signature of yours to have at least 2 typos per video? This is seriously one of the best videos on ASOIAF but there is *always* a typo. I am not frustrated or anything but I was just curious.
Nice wee H.P Lovecraft reference at the end the.
corlys velaryon was in shadow lands and we getting a spin off series of him ,since house of dragon was a hit it will probably open gats for jon snow sequel, etc
Anyone else realise carcosa is a H.P lovecraft place? It's mentioned in the king in yellow, one of his short stories.
The Church of Starry Wisdom is also a Lovecraft reference. It's in his short story The Haunter of the Dark. I think it's safe to say Martin was influenced by him.
@@jmeds94 Basically half of the further east is all easter egg names
I think is very european and thoughtful, the way george describes the world. Its always from some westerosi perspective, being westeros a land imagined as some medieval lands from our own world. These descriptions of wild things and animal people are a direct reference to many western europe scholars on the middle ages that discribed the same kind of wild things on the far east and beyond the sahara. Marco Polo describes cyclopes, some others reference dog-headed men in the andaman islands, yare yare daze...
So you tell me
Arya forgot about sothoryos, ultos , the shadowlands , the north of the lands of always winter , the east of essos , and all these fantastic places and unexplored lands , and chose to go to the west where she is going to get killed by some sea dragons without even reaching it ????
I think what's west of Westeros is this world's version of Paradise/Valinor. The few people who have gone west and come back claiming they found nothing just don't want other people going there and ruining it.
I think this black stone is important. the tower in oldtown is made of it, but it isnt oily. maybe its good to build with, but becomes oily when it gets corrupted (or causes corruption)? may or may not have anything to do with dragons.
Lys or Volantis next?
Keep it up
Why don’t they just airdrop the others in this area? They’d fit right in!
according to lore they have a similar type of creature in the shadow lands which is what the 5 forts are to protect essos from.
It reminds me of the hive city’s but small version of it
Shout out to the ayleid ruin pic from eso for stygai