Class 86 E3173 was rebuilt with a streamline cab for aerodynamic testing during the late 1960s/early 1970s for the HST project. After the programme of tests was completed it was returned to standard becoming 86204 on 11/8/1975 serving until 8/1998
And the yellow streamlining was entirely add-on parts on top of the standard 86 cab to test the aerodynamics. Literally and deliberately a minimum cost test rig. It can be said to be part of the overall programme that led to the HST, but it absolutely wasn't an HST power car prototype. There were two of those, a matched pair, with the double window (redesigned because the unions refused to allow single manning at 125mph).
@@Boypogikami132 that's probably fair, I can't remember the date when the HST became its own thing. But, IIRC, at the time E3173 was the only AL6/86 with flexicoil suspension, and therefore got called "Zeberdee".
@@Boypogikami132 no. There was the APT and the HST programmes. By the time E3173 was testing aerodynamic front ends the APT-E design had already been finalised. This occurred in Nay 1969. E3173 was testing the aerodynamic nose ends between late 1970 and early 1971 (there are pictures online if this loco with a similar nose dating from October 1970). The APT--E design was noticeably buffer free unlike the Class 41 HST prototype power cars. In 1970 BR decided that they needed something sooner than what the APT project was predicting as an in service date, months HST was born. This married the 75' coach design that Swindon had been working on with 2 lightweight power cars.
I’m glad I was able to finally make it to tha video on time without having to watch it after the video finished hours ago on your channel darkness and until next time this is Samu the hamu studios signing off. P.S. the Diesel hydraulics in the U.S. had twice the horsepower of the EMD sd7 and the preserved sp DH has half of her capabilities but still works.
I'm thoroughly surprised that you didn't talk about any Edward Thomson designs. Not that I don't like them, but I know a lot of folks that think the A2/2 and A2/3 are ugly
I mean, I think they're unpopular aesthetically just because it's *so close* to looking normal but the cylinder placement makes it look just slightly off, and that small difference/slightly longer nose makes them look jarringly weird against literally everything else. It's a trainspotter with OCD's nightmare, essentially.
You made a point of identifying the Streamining as "OMG, Ugg-glie, but still only made a massive 60mph in this form".... sometimes it's the aesthetic look, rather than under the skin, that makes the locomotive. It was done at the time when the rest of the freaking world was going bat-crap crazy for streamlining. Taking two pre-BR examples; The LNER Gresley A4's were purpose built to be streamlined (with a Bugatti front end), and the LMS Royal Coronation's had external cladding added. In Australia the NSWGR C38 class had the first 4 as "Streamlined", the remainder not, and there was no difference in performance, negligible in weight.
the Class 43 prototype was in fact a Class 41. There were two of them. Quite clearly, the buffer beams were needed since it was just that - a prototype - and ease of movement by other locomotives was a necessity. The overal shape of the Class 41 resembles very closely the production model but again, as a prototype, to keep in line with lighting regulations it needed a simple if not pretty solution to house the obligatory lighting - the production models gained high-beams, not seen earlier on BR rolling stock, and between the lights they found a place for the horns rather than above the cab on the Class 41. The nosecone added to the Class 87 was for aerodynamic testing at high speeds. Remember there was no diesel locomotive capable of over 100mph on BR in 1973 - the class 87 being the latest electric locomotive and with a comparable 5000hp (the HST had a combined 4500hp) was ideal for streamline testing at speeds in excess of 100mph.
The Deltic was capable of going over 100mph and regularly did so, although they were only rated for 100mph. They served until the early 80s until the class 43s completely replaced them. Everything else you say is correct though, just the statement about no 100mph capable trains
@@tyler_bt3326 You are correct - the Deltic was known in one case to have descended Stoke Bank almost as fast as Mallard (125 vs. 126mph - although Mallard was severely damaged on this run...) and working regularly at up to 110mph was not unknown. However, for true, extended, high-speed running, the Deltic was not ideal. Remember the prototype HST was a world-record breaker at 143mph and a production variant later reached 148, but exerted at 125mph no more force on the track than a Deltic at 100mph. For this reason, the Deltic was not considered capable of more than 100mph in test running.
The C53 looks like a LNER A4 gone very, very wrong! (BTW, I happen to think the SNCB/NMBS Type 12 Atlantics are beautiful - if quirky -, but a friend of mine cannot stand them - what's your view, Darkness?)
I just looked up the NMBS Type 12 after I read your comment, and from straight ahead and the side it looks fine. The front quarter however... (shudders)
@@brendanoneal363 The problems I have with it is that the pseudo-smoke deflectors makes the main body of the engine look like it was built for a railway with a narrower loading gauge but then made the bottom wider at the last second. The other issue is that I don't like how the pistons are exposed that just makes the engine look like a botched attempt at streamling, but I have no doubt that it was never covered for ease of maintenance.
Interesting point at 2:00 with the photo of the Proto 43... there is a test coach behind it (blue/red thing) but then what seems to be the APT articulated rake... which does beg the question.... what were they actually testing at that point?
after the Production HSTs starting operating in full force the prototype set was withdrawn with the power cars were sent to the Research division where they were used during the commissioning of the APT-P set, for variosu reasons the APT-P power cars and trailer rakes were commissioned separately and thus needed separate traction to get them upto 125mph
6:25 Honestly, I love that paint in a grey/white color motif (I know its black and white photo, in just saying it looks good in grey). The red looks absurd.
"We can get more steam by adding more boilers." Makes additional boilers really thin to fit down side of central boiler. Tiny heating surface is tiny. "Oh, it turns out this was a bad idea."
That streamlined C53... it kind of looks like someone was describing a streamlined LNER P2 down the phone from a series of pictures, but then there was a rogue picture of a non-streamlined P2 and they described the inset front end of that.
1:52 Looks like a class 44 - 46 with a submarine sail put on top to prevent the driver from seeing anything. Also those buffers look more like guns with corks holed in to prevent bullets coming out of the evil diesel. This engine looks like it's ready for World War lll.
The C53 streamlined looks like a knock-off Snowpiercer concept, and the Santa Fe EMC 1800 gives me kinda the same vibe, though it actually looks like it would fit in the Snowpiercer universe.
Maybe the class 43 prototype was using a programmer's trick, if you have a nit-picking boss who always finds something they don't like, you give them something to find, like spell the company's name wrong on the opening screen. That way they can have their thrill without making you do something totally unnecessary and may be inappropriate in order to get past them.
The JGR C53 is a Narrow Gauge 3 cylinder steam locomotive, and Japan has mountain ranges that will make it hard to make it go over 60. Keep in mind, there is a Streamlined version of the JGR C55. C53-43 is the only Streamlined C53, 21 of the C55 From C55-20 to C55-40 are Streamlined. At least they look better than the AT&SF Blue Goose and the Frisco Streamlined steamer.
I've always liked the SP Krauss-Maffei locos, specifically because of their cabs. IMO, German-style hood-unit cabs have very clean functional yet æstheic looks.
(I don't know if this is true, so please correct me) I heard that the nose of the restored ML4000 number 9010 was actually taken from a GP7/9's half upper front/rear-end. Which is still kinda tickles me
The Krauss ain't that bad. Honestly I preffer it over a general H.U.D unit. Interesting to see a stremliner that ugly and not perfoms well too. I tought the weirdest looking streamliner would be the MÁV class 242 (well, it nose is weird), which served my country on the Budapest-Belgrad line.
I am mostly a SUBWAY guy and I must say that ALL of these 5 look ugly EXCEPT for the Non-Streamlined C53s. We had an "Ugly" subway car called the R40 Slant. The name "Slant" obviously comes from their Design. Introduced in 1967 they have a Slanted Front End design to make it more futuristic. However their design deemed to be uhhh "Unsafe" when crossing between cars... so during the R40 order, the rest of the R40s that were being built were modified into a straight end, nickaming them the R40Ms.
Can you please consider doing a video on the british rail class 41 warship? They were probably the only diesels built by NBL that were reliable and didnt suffer the same type of problems like the other NBL diesels, despite only 5 being built
The Class 43 Prototype reminds me of one of those _garish poisonous caterpillars_ going through different lifestages! 🦠 Maybe it eventually becomes a lovely butterfly? 🦋
The class c53 has all the beauty of a brand new Lexus (the Grille Machines 😂). There's a bit of George Lucas in there...looks like it was built to haul Lord Vader's Imperial Sith train!
"Honestly it just looks like an E-unit Or an F unit that slammed into a wall!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 XXXXXXXDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!! I need to make a meme of it some day!
The JNR Class C53's streamlining was certainly an aesthetic embarrassment but it was only a failure if it didn't improve the mileage of the locomotive.
There were some French 4-6-0's that were all tubes and compressors and I think they even had condensing gear. I think they were built by the Est railway, and were actually quite good engines, lasting until the early 60's, often pulling Paris area commuter trains. But they were GOPPINGLY ugly!
I agree the segment #2, Santa Fe 'Bulldog' was pretty ugly, but I found it fascinating that it started life as a 4 axle locomotive. They had 2 of them 'Amos & Andy' and ran the Santa Fe 'Chief' in record time Chicago to California in 35 hours. They converted the front to 6 axle and later the rear trucks to 6 axle. What is funny is they have HO scale models of both in brass. The centipede, CF-7 and Aerotrain were no beauties either. NdeM had some one of a kind, patch jobs that would take the grand prize.
SP 9010 is the only machine in the United States with an operational Maybach MD870/1 V-16 engine. Last I heard, the number 2 engine is still being rebuilt.
Engines. not traibs. if you are talking about a train, you're refering to the engine and all the wagons or coaches that follow. if you're only talking about the engine on its own, then its engine. period
ill be honest, I like the class C53 since its a locomotive from my country but it was pretty bad even without the streamlining. they were based off the class C52 which were locomotives made and imported from ALCO (yes American Locomotive Corporation) they were 3 cylinder locomotives, and for japan this was hard to maintain, the C53 was pretty much the Japanese attempt to make a 3 cylinder locomotive that was easy to make and maintain........ that didn't happen.... while they were fast locomotives for japan at the time they were somewhat unreliable and very hard to maintain, the class C53 was withdrawn early for a Japanese steam locomotive and were replaced with the more easy to maintain 2 cylinder locomotives. but only 1, C53 number 45 is preserved, this specific locomotive was just in pure luck, it ran as a train driving school locomotive after it was withdrawn and well, just restored that and, preserved its in Kyoto railway museum as of today.
If you do a part two of disturbingly ugly trains I already have one for you The New York Central M497 Black Beetle Experimental Jet Powered Bud Car Train
@@nottelling8129 it's not even a Class 41 (HST) cab, but an experimental design for the HST cab front. The shape us very different. The lack of buffers and draw gear on the production HST makes rescuing a HST harder to do.
One that I think was ugly was the Union Pacific M-10000 and its M-10001 and M-10002 successors. Somehow it reminds me of a walrus, and that cab looks dreadful. The M-10003 redesign was a vast improvement and its design clearly nfluenced the E-units to follow.
The Belgian triple boiler looks brilliantly wacky, I love it.
A real Frankenstein's monster 🙂
Commander, you have once again managed to fulfill our daily thirst for quality train content, praise be upon you my leige!
I loved that you had the ' Dieseasel ' score reorchestration by InstrumentManiac for the British Rail class 43.
Good catch! It was a great choice, wasn't it?
@@flickcentergaming680
Thanks. Definitely was. Makes a lot of sense.
Class 86 E3173 was rebuilt with a streamline cab for aerodynamic testing during the late 1960s/early 1970s for the HST project. After the programme of tests was completed it was returned to standard becoming 86204 on 11/8/1975 serving until 8/1998
You beat me to it
And the yellow streamlining was entirely add-on parts on top of the standard 86 cab to test the aerodynamics.
Literally and deliberately a minimum cost test rig.
It can be said to be part of the overall programme that led to the HST, but it absolutely wasn't an HST power car prototype. There were two of those, a matched pair, with the double window (redesigned because the unions refused to allow single manning at 125mph).
Back then the HST project was the APT project.
@@Boypogikami132 that's probably fair, I can't remember the date when the HST became its own thing.
But, IIRC, at the time E3173 was the only AL6/86 with flexicoil suspension, and therefore got called "Zeberdee".
@@Boypogikami132 no. There was the APT and the HST programmes. By the time E3173 was testing aerodynamic front ends the APT-E design had already been finalised. This occurred in Nay 1969. E3173 was testing the aerodynamic nose ends between late 1970 and early 1971 (there are pictures online if this loco with a similar nose dating from October 1970). The APT--E design was noticeably buffer free unlike the Class 41 HST prototype power cars. In 1970 BR decided that they needed something sooner than what the APT project was predicting as an in service date, months HST was born. This married the 75' coach design that Swindon had been working on with 2 lightweight power cars.
The Class C53 with streamlining is the first version of Darth Train, later popularised by the modified Class 20 in Goldeneye
Look closely at the streamlined C53. Does it not somewhat resemble the 700 series Shinkansen?
Upfront, a streamlined C93 looks like a N700...
No such thing as an ugly train, even the BR class 20 has an inner beauty, somewhere. Prove me wrong.
You've not sen many American licomotives. I can't think if any that weren't put together using an ugly stick to hammer home the rivets...
they look decent with the long hood forward so thats something... i guess...
I've always liked the later ML 4000 (specifically SP 9010 in its later years)
Also, that demonstrater 1800 looks like a 2TE10M
5:24 This one? Oh man it looks like they took the body of a Gresley A4 and just decided to warp it beyond recognition. 🤢
That Triple-Boiler Locomotive looks like it came out of a Jules Verne book/movie.
I’m glad I was able to finally make it to tha video on time without having to watch it after the video finished hours ago on your channel darkness and until next time this is Samu the hamu studios signing off.
P.S. the Diesel hydraulics in the U.S. had twice the horsepower of the EMD sd7 and the preserved sp DH has half of her capabilities but still works.
I'm thoroughly surprised that you didn't talk about any Edward Thomson designs.
Not that I don't like them, but I know a lot of folks that think the A2/2 and A2/3 are ugly
I mean, I think they're unpopular aesthetically just because it's *so close* to looking normal but the cylinder placement makes it look just slightly off, and that small difference/slightly longer nose makes them look jarringly weird against literally everything else. It's a trainspotter with OCD's nightmare, essentially.
@@chrisoddy8744 I like them because they don't look normal lol
We all can agree on this and The only built that was OK was the L1 and maybe the B1 everything else were UUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH YYYYUUUUUUCCVVKKKK
@@jordandorsett3106 I guess I am in the minority for thinking that the A2/3 is quite elegant.
@@exarkun42 Wdym? They're beautiful!
You made a point of identifying the Streamining as "OMG, Ugg-glie, but still only made a massive 60mph in this form".... sometimes it's the aesthetic look, rather than under the skin, that makes the locomotive. It was done at the time when the rest of the freaking world was going bat-crap crazy for streamlining. Taking two pre-BR examples; The LNER Gresley A4's were purpose built to be streamlined (with a Bugatti front end), and the LMS Royal Coronation's had external cladding added.
In Australia the NSWGR C38 class had the first 4 as "Streamlined", the remainder not, and there was no difference in performance, negligible in weight.
Being fairly stoned, I find 0:57 fairly adorable, in a dorky "sloth love chunk" sort of way.
Holy shit 1:26 he's so god damn cute
I love your reaction to the streamlined JNR C53, lol
If the number 1 spot would have appeard in Thomas, would he have three faces? And three personalaties?
I love the ML 4000, and I don't mind the EMC 1800. I like quirky locomotives, so long they aren't *too* quirky.
Same. The ML 4000 and the 1800 don't look bad at all.
For a second my heart stopped when you said the 43, but then I saw the prototypes you were talking about. Thank god!!!
the Class 43 prototype was in fact a Class 41. There were two of them. Quite clearly, the buffer beams were needed since it was just that - a prototype - and ease of movement by other locomotives was a necessity. The overal shape of the Class 41 resembles very closely the production model but again, as a prototype, to keep in line with lighting regulations it needed a simple if not pretty solution to house the obligatory lighting - the production models gained high-beams, not seen earlier on BR rolling stock, and between the lights they found a place for the horns rather than above the cab on the Class 41.
The nosecone added to the Class 87 was for aerodynamic testing at high speeds. Remember there was no diesel locomotive capable of over 100mph on BR in 1973 - the class 87 being the latest electric locomotive and with a comparable 5000hp (the HST had a combined 4500hp) was ideal for streamline testing at speeds in excess of 100mph.
The Deltic was capable of going over 100mph and regularly did so, although they were only rated for 100mph. They served until the early 80s until the class 43s completely replaced them.
Everything else you say is correct though, just the statement about no 100mph capable trains
@@tyler_bt3326 You are correct - the Deltic was known in one case to have descended Stoke Bank almost as fast as Mallard (125 vs. 126mph - although Mallard was severely damaged on this run...) and working regularly at up to 110mph was not unknown. However, for true, extended, high-speed running, the Deltic was not ideal. Remember the prototype HST was a world-record breaker at 143mph and a production variant later reached 148, but exerted at 125mph no more force on the track than a Deltic at 100mph. For this reason, the Deltic was not considered capable of more than 100mph in test running.
The C53 looks like a LNER A4 gone very, very wrong! (BTW, I happen to think the SNCB/NMBS Type 12 Atlantics are beautiful - if quirky -, but a friend of mine cannot stand them - what's your view, Darkness?)
I just looked up the NMBS Type 12 after I read your comment, and from straight ahead and the side it looks fine. The front quarter however... (shudders)
@@brendanoneal363 The problems I have with it is that the pseudo-smoke deflectors makes the main body of the engine look like it was built for a railway with a narrower loading gauge but then made the bottom wider at the last second. The other issue is that I don't like how the pistons are exposed that just makes the engine look like a botched attempt at streamling, but I have no doubt that it was never covered for ease of maintenance.
Interesting point at 2:00 with the photo of the Proto 43... there is a test coach behind it (blue/red thing) but then what seems to be the APT articulated rake... which does beg the question.... what were they actually testing at that point?
Wdym? Please reply to me!
after the Production HSTs starting operating in full force the prototype set was withdrawn with the power cars were sent to the Research division where they were used during the commissioning of the APT-P set, for variosu reasons the APT-P power cars and trailer rakes were commissioned separately and thus needed separate traction to get them upto 125mph
Mom, can we get Mallard?
No, we have Mallard at home.
The Mallard at home: #3.
I’m glad that we didn’t end up getting any of those hideous Intercity prototypes
BR is staying, but I am as used to it as "Darkness the Curse".
6:25 Honestly, I love that paint in a grey/white color motif (I know its black and white photo, in just saying it looks good in grey). The red looks absurd.
I physically flinched when you revealed the streamlined C53.
"We can get more steam by adding more boilers."
Makes additional boilers really thin to fit down side of central boiler.
Tiny heating surface is tiny.
"Oh, it turns out this was a bad idea."
Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder
They must get plenty drunk to see these as beautiful
5:05
C53 in streamlined version looks like an LNER A4 and DRG Br 03.10 smashed into each other and their casing got reused for the JNR C53
That streamlined C53... it kind of looks like someone was describing a streamlined LNER P2 down the phone from a series of pictures, but then there was a rogue picture of a non-streamlined P2 and they described the inset front end of that.
The streamlined JNR Class C53 looks like, what happened after some one with a lisp described a Gresley A4 down a dodgy phone line.
OK, the streamlined C53s looks hilarious
1:52 Looks like a class 44 - 46 with a submarine sail put on top to prevent the driver from seeing anything. Also those buffers look more like guns with corks holed in to prevent bullets coming out of the evil diesel. This engine looks like it's ready for World War lll.
For a second part, could you add the renfe 140-2438, please.
Just by looking at his boiler you will understand
6:27 actually after the ATSF rebuilt them it inspiered Electro-Motive-Division to make the E- unit
The C53 streamlined looks like a knock-off Snowpiercer concept, and the Santa Fe EMC 1800 gives me kinda the same vibe, though it actually looks like it would fit in the Snowpiercer universe.
Canada's LRC looks like a cabbage patch doll turned into a locomotive on a full moon.
Love the Railroad Tycoon music in the background
Maybe the class 43 prototype was using a programmer's trick, if you have a nit-picking boss who always finds something they don't like, you give them something to find, like spell the company's name wrong on the opening screen. That way they can have their thrill without making you do something totally unnecessary and may be inappropriate in order to get past them.
The original ML4000's were the best looking locomotives EVER.
It was only when USA re-designed it that they became ugly.
The JGR C53 is a Narrow Gauge 3 cylinder steam locomotive, and Japan has mountain ranges that will make it hard to make it go over 60. Keep in mind, there is a Streamlined version of the JGR C55. C53-43 is the only Streamlined C53, 21 of the C55 From C55-20 to C55-40 are Streamlined. At least they look better than the AT&SF Blue Goose and the Frisco Streamlined steamer.
The streamlined C53 looks like an armored war train.
There’s the good locomotives, the bad locomotive, and the ugly locomotives… see what I did there?
I've always liked the SP Krauss-Maffei locos, specifically because of their cabs. IMO, German-style hood-unit cabs have very clean functional yet æstheic looks.
(I don't know if this is true, so please correct me)
I heard that the nose of the restored ML4000 number 9010 was actually taken from a GP7/9's half upper front/rear-end. Which is still kinda tickles me
5:00 hey, it looks like an armored train. I like it
4:34 There was also a streamlined GWR King class.
British Rail diesels tend to look pretty normal making the class 43 prototypes stand out as ugly.
I like the Krauss Maffei because it looks great
I like how you use for BR The Thomas and friends Diseasel theme made by Instrumental Matic
Another suggestion should be Top 5 Best Railway Coaches Ever, and for the British Rail Segement, it would have to be the BR MK1s
The ML4000 is a nice looking loco, and the EMC 1800
Wow!
Well,the inventing prosess can lead to some...interesting places!
The emc 1800 looks like someone took an e-unit and hit in the nose with a really big frying pan.
Is this going to become a new series of loco vids? What other ugly/weird/bizarre locos could be out there?
Surprised the British Rail Class 89 wasn't on this list
Beat me to it.
Also known as a Badger or an Aardvark
I actually quite like the look of the ML4000
Looks pretty cool
Can't wait for part 2
The Krauss ain't that bad. Honestly I preffer it over a general H.U.D unit.
Interesting to see a stremliner that ugly and not perfoms well too. I tought the weirdest looking streamliner would be the MÁV class 242 (well, it nose is weird), which served my country on the Budapest-Belgrad line.
agreed! the ol' KM has an "industrial charm" to it for its size.
the triple boiler is a goofy ah moment
I am mostly a SUBWAY guy and I must say that ALL of these 5 look ugly EXCEPT for the Non-Streamlined C53s. We had an "Ugly" subway car called the R40 Slant. The name "Slant" obviously comes from their Design. Introduced in 1967 they have a Slanted Front End design to make it more futuristic. However their design deemed to be uhhh "Unsafe" when crossing between cars... so during the R40 order, the rest of the R40s that were being built were modified into a straight end, nickaming them the R40Ms.
The HST had union problems. Designed with a single driver in the middle that didn't sit well with operators so we got the pretty version.
Can you please consider doing a video on the british rail class 41 warship? They were probably the only diesels built by NBL that were reliable and didnt suffer the same type of problems like the other NBL diesels, despite only 5 being built
you are right on the HST prototype, it looks like an insect, the Kawasaki streamlined model is empirically hideous.
The class c53 with the streamlining makes it look like a military steam loco
The streamlined C53 sure did go rocket pace, if you mean Stephenson’s Rocket!
I’m honestly surprised the GE BQ23 isn’t on the list, personally I think it looks very ugly
The Class 43 Prototype reminds me of one of those _garish poisonous caterpillars_ going through different lifestages! 🦠 Maybe it eventually becomes a lovely butterfly? 🦋
That JNR C53 "streamlining" looks as it was envisioned by a Soviet tank designer...
The class c53 has all the beauty of a brand new Lexus (the Grille Machines 😂). There's a bit of George Lucas in there...looks like it was built to haul Lord Vader's Imperial Sith train!
"Honestly it just looks like an E-unit Or an F unit that slammed into a wall!"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
XXXXXXXDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!! I need to make a meme of it some day!
You really missed one. The AnsaldoBreda v250 (Fyra). The front of that one is hideous, it's one of the worst trains ever and looks the same.
Very cool
Imagine seeing the last one in ttte with 3 faces
The class 43 prototypes looked like they were trying for an early driverless look. Ahead of their time 🙂
The JNR Class C53's streamlining was certainly an aesthetic embarrassment but it was only a failure if it didn't improve the mileage of the locomotive.
I reckon you can include most of the American trains... (*runs away)
😱HOW DARE YOU
Just saying, most British trains are more beautiful (*run away as well)
Maybe some of those designs that had way too much pipework and no attempt to make it look good.
LET HIM COOK
LET HIM COOK NOW
There were some French 4-6-0's that were all tubes and compressors and I think they even had condensing gear. I think they were built by the Est railway, and were actually quite good engines, lasting until the early 60's, often pulling Paris area commuter trains. But they were GOPPINGLY ugly!
Honestly, a lot of American double deckers look godawful. Seriously, they're just distractingly colourful rectangles.
Nice one.
I agree the segment #2, Santa Fe 'Bulldog' was pretty ugly, but I found it fascinating that it started life as a 4 axle locomotive. They had 2 of them 'Amos & Andy' and ran the Santa Fe 'Chief' in record time Chicago to California in 35 hours. They converted the front to 6 axle and later the rear trucks to 6 axle. What is funny is they have HO scale models of both in brass. The centipede, CF-7 and Aerotrain were no beauties either. NdeM had some one of a kind, patch jobs that would take the grand prize.
that EMC-1800 has to be the ugliest non-steam loco bar none. Calculated to offend
In a book series I’m making, there will be a ml4000 named Morty and he can transform into a robot
SP 9010 is the only machine in the United States with an operational Maybach MD870/1 V-16 engine. Last I heard, the number 2 engine is still being rebuilt.
The K-M looks like a beast...which is exactly what it was supposed to be.
The class c53 actually looks kinda cool with the streamlining, like its a scifi locomotive
1:52 - boil
5:01 - bootleg A4
5:54 - literally a pug
As soon as I saw the thumbnail and that National Rail logo, I thought “fuck sake…”
For the C53 I think the streamlining was based on the A4 streamlining but they butchered it
Engines. not traibs. if you are talking about a train, you're refering to the engine and all the wagons or coaches that follow. if you're only talking about the engine on its own, then its engine. period
Class 43 was the design basis for the XPT in Australia
I do think that the hood unit ML4000 looks kinda off, but I think the full width body version looks okay
Surprised the Bulleid SR Q1 class didn't make this list. Or the Class 70.
ill be honest, I like the class C53 since its a locomotive from my country but it was pretty bad even without the streamlining. they were based off the class C52 which were locomotives made and imported from ALCO (yes American Locomotive Corporation) they were 3 cylinder locomotives, and for japan this was hard to maintain, the C53 was pretty much the Japanese attempt to make a 3 cylinder locomotive that was easy to make and maintain........ that didn't happen.... while they were fast locomotives for japan at the time they were somewhat unreliable and very hard to maintain, the class C53 was withdrawn early for a Japanese steam locomotive and were replaced with the more easy to maintain 2 cylinder locomotives.
but only 1, C53 number 45 is preserved, this specific locomotive was just in pure luck, it ran as a train driving school locomotive after it was withdrawn and well, just restored that and, preserved
its in Kyoto railway museum as of today.
I have a an o gauge tinplate streamlined C53 and I love it.
@@amraceway i don't hate it either too, the EF55 electric locomotive looks worse in my opinion
If you do a part two of disturbingly ugly trains I already have one for you
The New York Central M497 Black Beetle Experimental Jet Powered Bud Car Train
i would say that the BR gas turbine 3 prototype looks like an LNER A4 pacific and a UP GTEL had a baby.
"The Units Looked like an E or F Unit ramed face first into a brick wall"
why British Rail Class 43 (HST) instead of British Rail Class 41 (HST) that thing is uglier?
It’s not the 41, it’s an 86 with a 41 cab
Yes it true
@@nottelling8129 it's not even a Class 41 (HST) cab, but an experimental design for the HST cab front. The shape us very different.
The lack of buffers and draw gear on the production HST makes rescuing a HST harder to do.
@@nottelling8129 thanks
6:46 he suffered being in an old cartoon and being hit by an anvil
One that I think was ugly was the Union Pacific M-10000 and its M-10001 and M-10002 successors. Somehow it reminds me of a walrus, and that cab looks dreadful. The M-10003 redesign was a vast improvement and its design clearly nfluenced the E-units to follow.
Oh, you dissin' Little Zip?!? 😭
You gotta admit
The ML4000 didn’t look too good
but it looks so intimidating