Kim Kardashian Slammed for Alleged Blackfishing, Copying Naomi Campbell’s Looks Sans Acknowledgment
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2022
- Kim Kardashian’s latest Vogue cover has everyone talking, with many accusing the reality star and businesswoman of Blackfishing and copying some of Naomi Campbell’s most famous looks without proper acknowledgment. And if “liking” the claims on social media mean anything, it looks as though the supermodel might agree.
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Loni’s and Garcelle’s face everytime Adrienne spoke 😂😂😂😂😂
Cos they know Adrienne has a blackfishing photo on her XIXI page
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 why don't Asians need to call her out?
@@tondaniraluswinga2590 plenty colours whitefish so 🤷🏼♀️ who caaaaares
@@chcx5275 yup
Loni took forever to blink
Please leave Adrienne out of ALL kardashian Jenner segments, she is not able to be objective when it comes to them. They could be accused of murdered and Adrienne would support them.
Well she didn't take up for Kim she straight said, "She needs to speak on it". She didn't show any support to Kim at all.
@@Cantetinza17 what I got from it was that Kim should speak up to defend herself and tell everyone that she wasn’t responsible because “she didn’t know” 😂
She said she needs to address it
Well I understand why. They’ve been friends for a long time and she dated their brother. There’s history there.
@@qtcarmen7d896 I agree.
Totally agree with Loni and Garcelle. Kim knows exactly what she's doing.
🎯🎯🎯
She thought wouldn't nobody notice
Agreed! And I’d love to hear from Vogue and get an alternate cover. One worthy of BHM.
@@kaybee9071 Kim is on the March Cover. AND Vogue doesn’t typically celebrate BHM. Google it and STOP jumping on the bandwagon.
I would love to see Garcelle and Loni wear their natural hair and faces on The Real.
Adrienne is being ridiculous. This is not a matter of one poorly directed photo shoot. This is Kim’s MO. She’s not an innocent, unaware, 16 year old who’s just doing what they tell her to do. She’s a grown woman who is very much in control of her image. She knows exactly what she’s doing.
I think it’s because she does the same. If you look at her ig, her skin tone looks different than it does on the show. I think she thinks it’s okay because she’s Latina but it just doesn’t seem like she’s just “tan”.
@@anahism2311 Her XIXI page has a blackfishing photo which she hasn't addressed
@@anahism2311 You know what, the other day on the Victoria Beckham food clip, I commented on Adrienne’s hands being 3 shades lighter than her face and body. Honestly, I know it’s normalized because white people and fair skinned people do it 🙄, but when are we gonna talk about how tanning can be just as bad as bleaching? Bleaching is always socially unacceptable (which is how it should be), but people who tan year round to blackfish and/or look more “exotic” is just normal for some reason.
What's MO?
Its just bc she friends with Kim and she does the same thing i saw her with box braids😒
I love Garcelle’s honesty. She was like she was aware, she was aware
I I I lot going to work 💪👷😪😩😫and the way you do it to your voice mail and you can also find out
It’s always awkward when they bring up the Kardashians because Adrienne is obviously a friend of theirs which is okay but they should just stop mentioning them all together because we can never have a real conversation about it
At least Loni and Garcelle kept it real.
A real conversion? Or them just repeating things that have been said multiple times before? 🧐The problem is, y’all don’t want a “real” conversation y’all just want them bashing Kim. Idk about you but aren’t you sick of Kim hate train that’s been going on for 10 years now it’s so played out.
@@firethoughts5193 I think you’re lost on the difference between hating and critiquing. Loni even said that she likes Kim she has no problem with her personally, only with what she did. Also, she highlighted that Vogue is mostly at fault. So idk why you’re trying to victimize Kim
It's not just with the Kardashians and Addrienne isn't the only one that can be bias Loni has been with offset and April when they got called out the problem is they all are careful with certain celebrities because they are afraid of offending certain people. That's why i don't like all these celebrities wanting podcast and shows because they are not going to treat one of their own like a normal person.
@@firethoughts5193 Thank you! Its not the Reals job to make the Kardashian clan go away. Why do yall think they have that much pull??? Why do they have to do the dirty work
Lmao the fact that Loni straight up laughed at Adrienne 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
"This is just what she does" THANK YOU LONI!
Kim watches black women, especially the ones that are either mega superstars OR not known yet, and she copies their looks and pretends she was unaware or that she and her "team" came up with it. You cannot name a single style/ outfit/ makeup look / idea that Kim is known for that black women didn't make popular first.
And, Vogue really needs to say something. There's no way that someone on the creative team at Vogue isn't aware of the looks that NAOMI F'ING CAMPBELL wore in a previous issue, or even in a competing magazine. They are either up Kim's ass too far or they are being willfully obtuse if they really say they didn't know.
@Stormi j Women of all races, of all class positions wear wigs! If that means Loni is being inauthentic, then all people would be too!
Nice
@@naimam2860 women of races and all cultures have their own version of braids too
@@shocomoco1867 Don’t be dense, Knotless braids, butterfly etc., are a BLACK hairstyle. Nobody is talking about ONLY braids. The former hairstyles have been popularized by/within the Black community. People want to act as though these hairstyles are trends that do not have historical contexts attached to them, as if Black women haven’t been demonized for wearing them.
@@naimam2860 💯
I am so proud of Garcielle and Lonnie speaking the truth about the Kardashians. I was surprised to hear Adrienne say what she said because she usually don’t speak on the Kardashians but this is important for women of color to see it acknowledge it and call them out on it no matter how much we love them , how many black dudes they date or marry, no matter how many kids of *mix race they have, THEY ARE NOT BLACK!
Surprised why? Adrienne is always taking up for them
@@dance4life1208 totally agree and that was my point..this time it didn’t sound like to me she was defending her..so that surprised me because she never speaks on any of them..she will get quiet or make an excuse for their actions...she said something pertaining to Kim needs to speak up on this or somebody in her camp or even Vogue if it’s not true. That’s what she would do in a situation like this. Being that Kim won’t apologize or speak on it surprised me that Adrienne said she should.
I think she does that because her and the Kardashians are friends and they hang out so she tries to be on their side
She didn’t say much but she said something lol..more than what she usually does. I would be good with them leaving Adrienne out of the Kardashian segments to be honest because I’m sure true fans of this show is sick of it!
@@kykym1590 that’s what I think too. I have many good friends that I sometimes disagree with and sometimes have to call them out on things and vice versa. If she feels like she can’t do that then she prob isn’t considered their real friend or every time they do a segment about them she needs to remove herself. Because she has an opinion about everything else but them! and enough of us have noticed it and tired of it..lol
Kim can do anything and Adrienne will find a way to defend her, even when she is wrong.
Yeah
Adrienne desperately wants to stay in the good graces of Kim and the family. She's phony as heck...
Not one thing ade said was in defense to kim
@@Desi-zz4gb Nor in defense to black women and black culture
Yeah girl. Adrienne last week out on some braids you look ridiculous so I’m not surprised
Also, Adrienne, its not about speaking out! It's about not doing it in the first place!!!
Point. Blank. Period.
I love Adrienne but she just pisses me the hell off whenever the topic is about the Kardashians. The Kardashians could do no wrong in her eyes.
She wants to be in.
So sad that Adrienne has to always be placed in this position. Whenever it has to do with the Kardashians I think she shouldn’t be part of the conversation
When I saw the title I was like "I know Adrienne tired talking about her friends"
This isn’t a “poor Adrienne” situation. If a particular “friend” of yours is being continuously caught up in some cultural appropriation BS and never taking any accountability for it, maybe you should reevaluate who you surround yourself with.
Funny how everyone except Kim should speak out. Adrienne should not be around during Kardashian topics because she speaks from a place of bias due to their friendship 🙄 it gives very much pick me
I didn’t get that from this conversation
She didn’t defend Kim she’s just saying the magazine company needs to be held accountable as well which I agree with.
She said she needs to speak out. If not Kim then Vogue needs to. There is nothing "pick me" about it. Adrienne all around is not the type of person to tear someone to shreds.
@@britbritnicole9211 She kept insinuating that Kim needs to speak up bc they’re accusing her of something she didn’t do, like she needs to defend it. not necessarily that Kim needs to address the mistake she made but that she didn’t do what they’re accusing her of
I just don't get why they don't just have a conversation... Adrienne should be able to fulfil her role in her job regardless of who her friends are. And if they don't understand that, then she must check those friendships out.
A few weeks ago, Adrienne was wearing the braids and tanned her skin shades darker than what she usually tans. I feel that is why Loni said "and it's not just Kim." 🤭
So? Loni and Garcelle have their hair straight. Does that mean they are white fishing?
Yeah because having straight hair is exclusive to the white race🤣. Girl bye
Thank u I was just gonna say! Check out her Jewry page too she had this one image where she looked really dark…
It’s annoying. Only white people are copy black people and not the other way around.. right.
@@noturxalimo6389 yeah bc having curly hair and braids is only exclusive to black people, girl bye to you 👋
Loni is telling it like it is and I love it
I’m quite sure that this was done on purpose for viral marketing purposes. ALL companies and marketing experts now know that stirring up controversy and using Twitter (reactive posts) are key to making their product go viral! And it appears that they were successful in doing so - everyone is talking about this cover now.
I know I am so proud
@@TravelingOnStardust Does it increase the sales? Does it end up making more people buy the product?
@@ceterisparibus8966 It does. Everyone knows that Twitter outrage is free marketing for their product which is why we keep seeing it happen. What I don't understand how people keep falling for it time after time. More people need to understand how Psychology and Marketing go hand in hand.
Ray J admits that Kris and Kim were involved in releasing the sex tape all along. She has lied to the public and her fans by painting herself out to be a victim. I wouldn’t want her being anyone’s lawyer (I can’t feel secure that she really even passed the bar with all the lies she has told) She’s a fraud and can do more harm than we give her credit for!
Y’all I’m convinced that Adrienne received some type of threat to be black listed if she speaks out about the kardashians. I watched a clip from years ago, season 1 or 2, in which Adrienne had VERY different energy and called out the family for lying to her - she agreed to keep rob’s cheating out of the public and it was never supposed to play out on the show, and then she watched their narrative with the rest of the world. She was very confident and straight up and now seems just like worried about saying the slightest wrong thing. Hollywood is a tiny town and I swear they got to her.
Oh yes i remember that episode.
Its almost disturbing to see how she can never say of acknowledge their wrong doings.
If its up to her they can get away with anything. Tneyvhave her on a chokehold
Yea I’ve thought about that. They did her dirty and she still supports them!! How??
Same! I feel like they have something on her.
Y’all should’ve show Garcelles reaction 😂
Lol I know she was looking at Adrienne crazy
@@JT1L 😊😊🤭👀👁️
Adrienne just STOP seriously. It’s comical
There is no speaking out needed! The proof is there!! What more do you want! Actions speak louder than words, Adrienne!
Wasn't Adrienne wearing an inappropriate hairstyle last week?
@@jesussaves4634 I am saying and Loni was throwing shade at Adrienne too
@@jelanicard671 I didn't catch that part, why can't Loni just come out and say it like she does here.
What exactly would you like said or done?????????
Adrienne’s face at the end lmao
Kim just does that!!! She bites everything black women do. She needs to be held accountable for what she does. That’s not her natural skin tone. Please listen to Loni and Garcelle.
She doesn’t just copy black people, that family copies everything.
Naomi is an ivon.
But if a black gyal bleaches her skin, nobody cares.
This isn’t Adriennes natural skin tone and none of y’all seem to care. Look @ Adriennes Nightime Skincare Routine on her TH-cam , revels her natural light skin
@@Tressesbyjoanmary she does thanks
I remember when Kim was trying to culturally appropriate Japanese culture. She tried to call her product Kimono. Japanese ppl went ballistic. Loni and Garcelle are right. She knows what she is doing. She just doesn't care.
She may not have known. Kim is her name and she’s semi dumb at best
Loni slayed in this segment !!!! Yes Loni and garcelle for always being to true and transparent
The entire Kardashian clan are ridiculous! She knew exactly what she was doing.
I think they are a joke!!
but yet everyone follows them. People have the power to fix this by unfollowing and stop buying their products.
All day & everyday 👎🏽
@@HomeEduSchool enough people to make them money
@@dinakoss1029 all that cash is no joke
I think we have to understand there is a difference between Cultural admiration and cultural appropriation. Had she done one shot wearing a Naomi inspired dress and acknowledged it was inspired by the supermodel icon…maybe things would have been different. The fact of the matter is that she along with members of her family do take from other cultures and make a profit. They take from Black American Culture and Latino/Latina/LatinX Culture often and never acknowledge it. They don’t see the problem with their actions and it maybe to late to teach them.
You know what I would love to see? Kim wearing something from her one Culture. She's always saying I'm so proud of being Armenian". Ok, well what are somethings unique to your culture that you can make fashionable?
Naomi is a trend setter and her looks are copied all over. Her walk, her skin, her hair, her clothes. Does each person who copies something from a supermodel who is supposed to be a trend setter for fashion amongst the masses.
@@agathachris9722 They not only copy Naomi but Black women in general.
Say It Again!!
@@quietstorm1897 Say It Again!!
I feel like A was coming from a place of defending Kim but in my opinion she could have been a little bit more open to understanding what Loni and Garcelle were saying. Make them feel seen and heard and understood. And acknowledged.
@Stormi j u sounds crazy..look up black fishing and you’ll understand..and look at kims previous pictures
Adrienne tried to defend Kim but without defending Kim. 🤣
And the "Adrienne don't speak on the Kardashians" comments will begin in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
She shouldn't!
THANK YOU LONI FOR STANDING UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT! Loni always stands up for people like her. I am so proud of Loni.
Yes I had to sit up and listen to her preach she hit it right on the nail
At this point THEY(the entire Kardashian klan) KNOW what they are doing! They made their entire careers stealing from black/people of color creators/brands!!! THEY KNOW! The team can’t ALWAYS be the blame when YOU DO THIS ON THE REGULAR! Kim is around many celebrities/is on social media so you’re telling me she’s not aware of Naomi’s style/work?! Like something don’t come in her brain like “I’ve seen this before so let me not?” or atleast put a spin on it or give credit 🙄 THEY KNOW!
Copying is common in art. It's not Kim K fault that people likes her in whatever she wears.
It's also not Kim K fault that the audience don't celebrate black women the same. That's the markets response and has nothing to do with Kim
@@benjaminreyes3624 THANK YOU!!!!!
@GoldenGlam...I'm an Independent Latino, What is Adrianne saying, I never understood her?.......Ok, WHY is it Okay for Black Women to "Whitefishing"......Beyonce is the "Queen of Whitefishing".......No Bueno......Boring. I said, "Who cares, keep pushing move on with your lives".
@@iwontrespond4039 no problem lol
@@benjaminreyes3624 one, never said it’s her fault that people like/celebrates her(it actually is to some extent because she’s done a lot to stay in the media, good or bad)…that wasn’t my point! My point was that she is aware of her black-fishing/taking credit for things that she didn’t come up with and she DOESNT care! Second, coming from an artist(me) just because it’s common for people to copy other people’s work verbatim doesn’t make it right! We all know most things aren’t really new but you can make things your own/add a different spin to it! If you are going to copy at least give credit! Stealing is never okay just because “people like anything she wears.” What’s her fault is that her and her peoples/family members are thieves!!!
Loni said what needed to be said!! That whole family never takes accountability. They always play the damn victim. smh.
Duhhhh Adrienne. They don’t literally say “we’re going to copy Naomi Campbell”. They see what she’s done (and other black women), recreate the look and make it seem like they came up with the idea/vision behind it.
You would think that since she is paying for her styling team that someone would do their research and be like, "Kim are you aware that you are wearing Naomi Campbell's look again"? But then again maybe they don't give a hoot. Yeah you can't deny that all those receipts that they showed were Naomi Campbell's looks. So if I were Kim I would tell my team, the next person who doesn't do their research will be fired or next time you wear a frock say that you love Naomi Campbell's style.
They didn't pretend like they came up with it.
Lmaooooo thank you!
@@Cantetinza17 You think she'll be arrested for it?? TF
@@iwontrespond4039 What do you mean? I didn't say that she should be arrested. I'm not sure how you got that from my comment. That says she needs to FIRE her team, or GIVE CREDIT to who inspired her look (Naomi Campbell).
love Adrienne but my god does she get so defensive when it comes to the Kardashians...always an excuse and finds a way to dance around the topic
Like they have something over her😛
I wish she’d quit screaming when she speaks also 😂😂
@@heatherlynsey3092 at some point she also said I don't care about.... that got to me a bit. Why don't you care?
It’s cos they all came for her the early days of the real when she spoke about her relationship with Rob and I think that left her a lil shook 😭
@@charliexox9793 When did she say she did not care?
Gosh Adrienne always be working my nerve when Kardashians are the topic. She acts like she's a family member the way she defends them so passionately. They barely even acknowledge her existence 😆 🤣!! Like, girl, STOP✋🏿!!!So embarrassing.
They’re friends what are you talking about
Do you know how crazy you look getting riled up over nothing 🤣🤣
They did her dirty and she still supports them. It’s crazy!!
Wow loni articulates my thoughts so beautifully , a true talk show host
I love Adrienne, but when It comes to the Kardashians I swear she conveniently loses all common sense!! She deliberately pretends they are not wrong and it seriously pisses me off!!! They need to be held accountable for their BS. The Real please give Adrienne a day off when topics on the Kardashians are on the agenda. She's bias every single time and it's beyond ridiculous now!!!
The whole braid converation at the end was stupid. Knowing how Loni feels; I was wondering how come no one commeted on Adreinnes braids when she had them a few weeks ago
They literally stopped on air & told her she looked nice so why would they turn around & do that ??
@@dawncullen0214 it’s a double standard. They’re were quick to Judge Kim when she did it a year ago, but Adrienne there co-host/ friend does it; it’s not cultural appropriation. I don’t understand. It’s hypocritical.
What someone chooses to wear, is their choice. They're wearing straight weave while discussing culture appropriation. (Just because one is a minority doesn't exempt you.)
@@iyatunde7860 it’s a very hypocritical conversation.
I’m sorry but that part about the braids at the end.. so Kim is not allowed to get braided? Really?? I’m Mexican and braiding is done all over Latin America too, it’s not specific to just one culture/community. I’m sorry but y’all exaggerating.
They have been Blackfishing for years 😰 without acknowledgement
Preach Loni! Andre should have been on the cover.
Agree 💯
Should we necessarily always expect from the whitest people to lift us up or show us respect or give us our flowers in order to feel like we made it though ? Like it’s VOGUE… one of the biggest magazines in the country and all the just behind that or whatever I don’t understand the hype in us getting heated over an issue that is MARCH ! This isn’t even the February issue… this months cover of American Vogue is the amazing young actress from Squid Game - Hoyeon Jun! I don’t hear any outrage over that ?
Kim Kardashian does this for the attention. You guys are giving her exactly what she wants.
Adrienne…Adrienne…Adrienne…we know you’re friends with the Kardashians and you still want to be in their good graces. You can stay out of the Kardashian/Jenner conversations. You already know that Kim Kardashian is 100% aware of the creative direction for all of her photoshoots. She’s been guilty of cultural appropriation long before her daughter North had a fashion sense. Kim can’t say she’s inspired by her daughter’s style. All Kim ever does is make her skin darker, copy hairstyles and looks by black women then rarely give them credit or claim them as her own and then proceed to play dumb when people call her out for cultural appropriation. Kylie and Khloe are guilty of the same thing. Don’t play dumb Adrienne, we know you know the Kardashian/Jenner clan way too well.
Wheeew Garcelle never misses in the category of KEEPING IT REAL 🗣
Adrienne knows that the Kardashian-Jenners don’t hesitate when it comes to dropping friends, so ofcourse she’s gonna defend Kim at all costs 🙄 and they call this show the Real
I agree with everything said and I also wanna say Loni your makeup game is getting stronger and stronger you are doing amazing sis💖
Lonis face when Adrienne start speaking 🥴🤣🤣🤣🤣 she knew it was caming, nothing was caming.
Thank You Loni !!!!!! They Jock our whole Style and profit off of it 🙄🙄🙄 I'll never forget them calling box braids "Boxer braids"
Omg for real?😂😂
YOU HAVE KIM KARDASHIAN'S HAIR IN YOUR BRAIDS!!!!!!!!!! ARMENIAN PERSIAN SAME THING, YOUR HAIR YOU USE COMES FROM ARMENIA PERSIA INDIA HAWAII ETC ETC
@@iwontrespond4039 Never forget we HAD to get these styles in order to even work! To this day black ppl are discriminated against their hair! Wasn't it just like 2 years ago of a black boy having his dreadlocs cut in order to walk across the stage to graduate🙄🙄 While white ppl are profiting off of them!! Black ppl never claim to be the creators of straight hair, straight hair isn't inclusive to just white ppl, a hot comb will make mines kist as straight💁🏾, However Braids, Locs, Afros etc. Isn't just a "hairstyle" it is a cultural, it protects our hair, it was used as Maps, its has a deep history and is sacred to US! So have your fun but know that it is ours. Educate urself before u speak
Honest question…Did anyone tell Adrienne her braids were culture appropriation?
Lol . So only black women can wear braids ? Gtfoh with that bs. Its like saying you can’t straighten your hair or wear wigs or weaves… or else yo trying to be white. Lol. how about we let people do their HAIR however they want . Some of y’all sound bitter just bc other women who are not black probably look better than you hating asses . Being a hater isn’t going to make you cuter instead of hating you should look at it like that’s pretty. And move ON.
@@CesarRodriguez-ln4yd In my honest opinion I couldn’t care less what anyone does to their hair or body. I think you missed my point sir, how can these women criticize Kim or any other non black female for having braids but they didn’t mention anything about Adrienne having them just a couple of weeks ago. Let’s not be hypocritical and hold everyone to the same standard if you feel this strongly about it.
@@CesarRodriguez-ln4yd And by the way I am not black nor a hater
Lol. Right. And they very much are! On any woman that wants to rock them 💕💞 Do you Kim, is what I say on this type of thinking and subject.
“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.” Oscar Wilde
For the team of "The Real" please when you're addressing the Kardashian's - Jenner's clan in a topic it's better to skip Adrienne's cause unfortunately she's not able to be objective because of her relationship with this family, it's so annoying how she's always quite when it comes to them😭😐🤔
Thank God we have Loni's & Garcelle's that set the record straight! Brovo to them 👏🏾👏🏾
Adrienne is confused because she is sitting next to two dark skin black women who are wearing wigs and weaves and makeup to change their features to other ethnicities.
Didn't Adrienne have braids recently? How is that different? Can we sometimes be taking everything too far in deciding peoples motives?
What about blk woman wearing their hair straight or straight hair wigs. Color their hair blond etc. Isn't that CA! You can't have it both ways. Blk women wearing their hair straight like white woman, but white people can't. Geez get over it!
@@anitarhodes1839 Being blonde is not exclusive to white people. There are black people who are natural blondes, such as Melanasians and Australian Aborigines. However, being a natural blonde is rare amongst all races of people. In America, only 4% of people can produce blonde hair, so although we see white people with blonde hair all over the place, the majority are bottle blondes.
Straight hair is also not exclusive to white people. I am black with 3C hair and I have many black relatives who have naturally straight, wavy and 3C hair. A lot of white people and others who walk around wearing straight hair don't have naturally straight hair. They have wavy, curly or kinky hair and straighten their hair just as some black, Latin and Asian people do as well.
In general, the term cultural appropriation is used when the dominant culture copies from a group of minorities. Often involved is taking credit for creating what's being appropriated which leads to financial rewards and erasure.
Black people who wear straight hair or wigs are not taking away from other groups of people, and oftentimes do so because black people have been repeatedly told that wearing our hair in its natural state is unprofessional.
The fact that the CROWN act is in the process of being passed, because in 2021-2022 black people are still being expelled from school, fired or not hired at all for wearing our natural hair shows where the problem lies.
Since the day Black people stepped foot in America we have been told to assimilate...name, language, appearance, religion, etc. all forced upon us. Assimilation is not the same as cultural appropriation.
Minorities adapting to the standards of the dominant group for survival purposes is a common practice worldwide.
@@ExtraordinaryTrading blah,blah,blah always playing the victim!
@@anitarhodes1839 I prefer the term 'survivor'. You on the other hand are attempting to make white women the victims of cultural appropriation and can't handle the truth.
AGAIN, blah, blah, blah, survival of What? Slavery? Just excuses to blame white people for your problems.. You have every advantage of all races, but you continue to complain. If you got Reparations then What? You would still continue to complain.
Go to school, get an education and job. You have every opportunity to this. What is stopping you. Oh I know white people wearing braids. And if not that it would be something else. Get over yourself.
Loni kept is real. Acknowledgment is critical. Andre should have been on the March cover of Vouge. No question.
Adrianne switched her hair style to something else real quick 😂🤣
I just don’t understand why people can’t wear what they want to it’s crazy because most styles are copied
Didn’t adrianne have braids last week lol
Exactly I'm surprised they didn't say anything about Kim that day while she had those braids on her hair tbh lmaooo
Thank you Loni and a Garcelle for speaking the truth. I love Adrienne but when it come to the Kardashians she either stay quiet 🤫 or she's making excuses for them especially Kim...
So, just to be clear, I need to acknowledge a top model (who is paid to sell her image and the clothes she put on) when wearing the same clothes ? Because she is black!?. Do I need to acknowledge the creator of the clothes also?, or do I only do that when he or she is also black? Do I do the same for the stylist that put clothes on the model? What about the person who took the picture? This is ridiculous!!!! Coming from a black girl. You guys need to sort this black and white issue you are having. It is getting too much. So now we need to acknowledge black people when we do braids? I am from Africa, and I have never heard something like this. I personally like it when other people want to look like me for a change.
My sentiments exactly. It's getting ridiculous. Everyone knows braids originated from Africa. Everyone copies everyone's style in this world. It's the best form of flattery when your copied so why is everyone really mad?
Thank you so much for this comment! This whole topic is absolute nonsense.
Yes Yes & Yes. Now, I'm not black but I am a POC (Puerto Rican) and if I say this then I will get stones thrown at me. I'm glad to see this written from a Black woman because it's so true....we ALL know hands down Black women are the leaders in fashion, hair fashion, etc. however.......it's a little unrealistic to think people need to kiss the feet of every black woman they see as a form of "thank you" for your natural creativity and fashion culture...it's crazy. I just think we need to put more Black women in the forefront and present them better in media etc. instead of gatekeeping trivial things like cloth (unless it's literally traditional culture wear) and hair styles. I'll probably still get stones for even writing this but I don't care. Honestly, just over 4-5 years ago I finally let loose and let my natural 3c4a curls out and let them do what they do, and while I kept a flatiron in hand years prior I was afraid of being called out and people saying I'm trying to be black because I let my curls out. IT's so stupid. Recently I cut my hair into a long-pixie cut and just rocking the curls and I'm still in fear at work here of people thinking I'm trying to be black when all I'm doing is wearing the literal natural curls that grow from my dome.
SORRY for the rant/vent. Long story short, we just need to really get on the same page as to what black fishing REALLY is....because some things are just inspired by black and others are literally ripping from black. That's the difference.
And for the mixed communities is way more complicated. You are not enough black to do certain things and not enough white for others.
Thank you so much.
I’m sorry but the braid argument is ridiculous when black women wear wigs or make their hair straight. That’s a double standard to me. Just wear what whatever style of hair you want whether you’re black or white. It’s your hair! No one should tell you what to do with it.
IM TOTALLY ON BOARD WITH THE HAIR SITUATION... LIKE WHO HAS TIME TO CARE ABOUT A HAIRSTYLE NOWADAYS.
wigs aren’t worn by black women to look like white women ….. braids/locks have a deep rooted culture . also weaves/extensions were invented by a black woman and worn but all different races. lastly while no one is policing what people do with their hair the braids reference was pointing out that Kim had braids in that black women have been wearing forever and they were being referred to as kim k braids .. reducing the culture down to a trend and giving her credit for something she copied
It’s not a double standard. White women can wear their natural hair and it is viewed attractive and professional. That is one of the reasons why black women wear/wore wigs and/or straighten their hair. Traditional black styles afros, braids and locs historically have not been viewed attractive and professional by white people. That’s why when the Kardashians wore “boxer” braids, it became socially accepted to wear those type of braids to work, school etc. However Black people have been wearing braids for YEARS and told that it’s not professional and even worse “ghetto.” It’s in no way a double standard.
Please research before you talk
I genuinely want to know this.. why is it that Kim was blasted for wearing her hair in braids but when Adrienne did it just a few episodes ago, she got nothing but compliments?
Because Adrienne is Puertorican and Blacks and Ricans in some ways are connected culturally. They bonded over Rap and R& B hairstyles etc. I did say connect culturally, I'm not saying blacks and Ricans have the same culture
Jlo was popular for her authentic big booty and lips and braids.Black Woman didn't say anything... Mostly because Rican woman have the same things.In my opinion Kim probably just Love Naomi Campbell's Fashion. Maybe Kim just like Black Culture . I'm tired of hearing about cultural appropriation. We all probably have appropriated each other
Adrienne did look beautiful with the braids
Adrienne still tryna keep it cool with the Karsashians by asking these useless "do you know?" questions. Girl please...we see you 😒
🗣LONI & GARCELL👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 SPEAK ON IT.
Oh for God's sake, it is inevitable that different culutures mix. So you cannot say that this you can take from my culture but this you cannot. This you can appreciate about my culture but from afar??? What if black women couldn't straighten their hair anymore? Braids have been used in many cultures over the centuries and EVERYONE should be allowed to have ANY hairstyle they want, just like they can dye their hair any color and wear the clothes they want. This is our freedom. We shouldnt let anyone dictate who can wear what.
Does Adrienne really want to blame the fashion editor instead of kim? You think she dumb and unaware? She's the one who agreed to it. When it's positive feedback from the public they only praise the celebrity on the cover the the fashion editor, so you are clearly only using that when it's convenient for you. Also, when Adrienne is in the wrong, she just uses the "confused" tactic.
I mean shes still friends with them till this day
When Adrienne said "unaware" 🤭😬
No one tells Kim what to do; she's very much gonna have a strong say in such creative matters
This is a lesson on the importance of being well-informed and the importance of historical research. Vogue is a multi-million dollar magazine entity that must have staff and researchers at every turn who should be able to vet each magazine cover, article, etc is produces. Kim Kardashian is a billionaire in the beauty and fashion industry who will also be able to practice law. Both entities have unlimited resources at their disposal- spend some of that money on being well-informed. Poor decision-making is not an excuse for 2022.
We'll see if Kim will be able to pass the actual bar exam... I have my doubts. Poor judgement for a lawyer in training!
@@hmacklemore2226 She got people talking about her. I think that's her brand. So, mission accomplished, she should do well as a lawyer.
The days of accepting their fake apologies are over! The days of teaching them how and why they’re WRONG when they’ve overstepped boundaries ARE OVER! Enough is Enough. My people STOP PLAYING THEIR GAME, the moment we stop ITS GAME OVER FOR THEM
Naomi is a super model: we are meant to want to copy her looks!!! This is why designers pay her to wear her clothes!
Thank you! What is the big deal with “copying” clothes
The issue is her not giving credit or paying homage.
@@Bdotdecember 🤦🏾♀️ this is ridiculous Naomi is not the designer, she is a model ffs she wear what others put her in!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU
@@vrx7082 I would love to know that also, I don't understand it
But what about Adrienne’s braids she just had. I’m curious on their input. But yes. There definitely needs to some accountability and credit!
How would you like her to "give credit"?
Exactly they seem to be black- fishing too tbh isn't it😏🤔
Braids are for all cultures. I am Asian Bangladeshi women born in Bangladesh and brought up in England and we grew up wearing our hairs in braids.
Thank you Loni for keeping it real.
Lonnie is a BIG mess with her PWT man, and YOU know that, like she calls people tree monsters 😂🤣😂🤣 she is the A1 NUMBER ONE tree monster of them all, and I mean that from the heart and soul, and for you to agree with her I'm sure you're just like her
I absolutely agree that when the similarities are this clear, an acknowledgement of inspiration is so important. Otherwise, typically the white or non-black person overshadows the original and is given undue credit! On the other hand…if we feel that wearing braids is a no-no for white women, could we agree not to wear the Euro-Asian-textured hair of other races of women on our heads as black women? We need to extend grace in that area, particularly, in my opinion. Otherwise, we should acknowledge our hypocrisy there.
I , as a black woman totally agree! I feel its a double standard!
I understand, but for black women wearing wigs, we still very much so appear as Black Women, as we should. We don't look like ayone else whilst wearing a wig; and us wearing those wigs was done so for various reasons, protective hairstlying yes, but assimilation into euro-centric beauty standards also, after being told for generations that our natural hair wasn't enough.
We braided our hair to follow a route to escape the plantation. We used to braid our hair and hide grains of rice just to be able to eat at least something whilst working on the plantation. And we braided our hair to show and take pride in the African tribe we belonged to. No matter what we do with our hair we're always criticized. No mattrr what Kim K or any other non black Woman does with her hair, the lash isn't nearly as heavy for them as it is for us.Even when they appropriate.
@@kairelvictoria2148 Do white women not appear as white women when wearing braids? I feel they do. It’s clear that they’re white women with braids lol. I hear you sis, in terms of the assimilation piece. Aspiring to whiteness continues to be beneficial economically and otherwise. Whereas staying true to us doesn’t seem to lend the same benefit. When others, then, benefit from imitating what is natural to us but doesn’t always benefit us, the king-making nature of white adoption (of anything) becomes evident, and the unfairness is glaring. Still, I think there is an element of hypocrisy here that needs to be acknowledged. Furthermore, we can take our power back by learning to accept ourselves FIRST, I think. To really step it up, the best thing would be to divest from Euro-centric systems altogether and build of and for our own. That would indeed be a long-term solution and would require mass Black participation, but there would be some immediate benefits in even pursuing this. If we could just come together and get on the same page.
@@naturalhealermom Maybe having these honest conversations is a start. :)
The difference is braids are sacred to african culture. However wigs are not. Human hair comes from asians/indians not europeans. 🙂 Anyone of any culture can wear a wig. Braids hve always been something sacred. ALWAYS. It wouldn’t fall under hypocrisy imo only bc we arent cultural appropriating anyone when we wear a wig.
The people who say Kim is to blame are exactly the same people who will still buy the Vogue magazine..
And why doesn't anyone criticize Anna Wintour? Isn't she the head of Vogue?
Adrienne🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️Somebody should say something. You are on the seat to say something and you cannot claim that this is her first blackfishing escapades that you know of. YOU say something, and stop "not understanding how" 😑
She don't have to. She ain't kims mother.
Adrienne stop it! You need to be honest and call them out. Kim's not speaking out bc she didn't anticipate the backlash
Yesss Loni and Garcelle did Not allow Adrienne to cover up for her friends "The Kardashians" she Always makes excuses for them I get it they your friends but right is right
i love kim but this definitely gives black fishing vibes! like come on kim
No surprise seeing Adrienne refuse to call a thing a thing when it comes to a Kardashian.
Excuse me Kim is featured on the MARCH Issue of Vogue. The FEBRUARY Issue of British Vogue featured all African Models, and the American Vogue featured a Chinese Actress from Squid Games. It would be the Editor and Chief's responsibility for weather or not a black person is featured for Black History Month in the US. Ya'll need to leave KK alone. She had no control over this whole debacle. 🤷🏽♂️
Not Adrienne saying "how wack is that" when most if not ALL her bags from her label are copies of trendy luxury brands
The Kardashians will do anything just to be in the spotlight
... but I don’t see the reason everyone is on Ade’s neck. She did say Kim SHOULD acknowledge and address it!. That’s good enough, no? 🤷♀️
Exactly what else is there to say
@@fakeaccount704 and that it wasn't her fault.
She's acting as if it's someone else's fault and blaming others instead of kim. Kim's unaware? Are you dumb?
Yeah no lol she didn't directly say Kim should say something. She was insinuating and really believed that Kim had no clue. That's what made Garcelle and Loni go off lol and I'm glad they did. Any topic surrounding the Kardashians, Adrienne tip toes around it because of her association with them. I understand if you're friends with them, you want to defend them. But acknowledge when they're wrong about something and move on. But she never does
Accused ?
I hate this world, who cares how people do their hair, pose on a magazine, who decides what styles belongs to what race of people? I can’t!
I'm a black woman. Taking anyone's style is lame. However i think anyone can wear anything. Kim can't wear braids but we can wear straight European weave? Come on man.
No one wears hair from a European person don’t even try to use that comeback because that’s the dumbest one ever
@@Rokia2003 but black women wear wigs that aren’t their hair texture they’re wearing Indian/Asian/Hispanics hair textures, black women cannot grow silky straight hair the double standard is ridiculous if Kim can’t wear braids then Loni & Garcelle shouldn’t be wearing long silky hair pieces that don’t resemble their natural texture
@@milkyteawithbiscuits3555 exactly
There is a huge hole in your argument. Wearing European weave was a survival tactic. Black were ridiculed for wearing their natural hair or braids. So when society looks at black women poorly for wearing these styles (ghetto or not fashionable) it’s not ok for those same styles to be worn by non blacks but be praised for it.
@@milkyteawithbiscuits3555
Thank you. You get the point entirely. I ne trying to figure out if these internet philosophers are this dumb in real life, if they truly miss the point or just pretend to for the sake of arguing.
I know Adrienne is friends with Kim so her response to the topic may be clouding her judgment, possibly?!?!
Amen Loni! You are so right.
Thank you Loni and Garcelle 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Adrienne is so biased for the Kardashians she must be on their payroll 🙄 That she is that loyal to or scared of them says alot about Adrienne.
The Kardashian girls stay in relationships and marriages with black men to get some credibility when they wear and rock black styles/culture. They stay black fishing and have become millionaires off it. Being black adjacent has benefitted them immensely.
She scary af
It’s amazing how predictable Adrienne is when it comes to any segment pertaining to the Kardashians. Kim and the Klan having been doing this for years, and every time Black people speak up on it, they ignore it.
Thank God for Loni and Garcielle ,,,,,they always speak the truth unlike adrienne who is afraid to say any about kim and her family,
Unpopular opinion but people are reaching about Kim copying Naomi lol. The dresses weren’t made by Naomi, so just because Naomi wore it no one can’t ever?
I agree 💯 out of the 1000s of outfits shes worn just because a few of them are similar doesnt mean she is copying 🙄 as if she needs too 😂
Loni you look amazing in blue! Love the chat. Always interesting & honest. ☺️
Great point Loni love it 🙌🏾🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Loni didn’t do a great job explaining what blackfishing is…
This guys can never speak the truth when it comes to the Kardashians, it's almost as if the Kardashians are paying their salaries, they are very biased and dishonest when it comes to Kardashians.
Very well said Lonnie.
I’m sorry, but when I heard Loni’s statement about Kim & Northwest & the braids, I don’t understand why Kim can’t wear braids, just because she isn’t black! why? It seems a double standard, considering black women straighten their hair, wear straight hair wigs, extensions and has assimilated themselves! enlighten me please!
Like!! Makes absolutely no sense!!
Exactly and they go about wearing blonde wigs like get the fff outta here,
There is a difference between cultural appropriation and cultural assimilation. And it’s disheartening how most are ignorant to it.
Adrienne stop being neutral and tell the truth!
Idk why anyone even feels bad for Kim.
Loni speaking FACTS!!!!
Thank you Loni & Garcelle for keeping it real! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾