Thread Lifts | PDO Threads- Are they worth it?
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This video discusses PDO monofilament threads. This is the most commonly used thread type.
What are thread lifts?
This procedure is meant for mild to moderate skin laxity.
What is the difference between monofilament & barbed/suspension threads?
Monofilament treads are made from suture material, most commonly used PDO. Other substances like poly-lactic acid is also used.
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What areas & concerns can be addressed with monofilament PDO threads AND who are good candidates for threads?
Lower face, neck, mild jowling. Patients with good dermal thickness & minimal sun damage do best.
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Do threads work on everyone?
Nope. They are good for mild laxity. Moderate laxity can be corrected with suspension - barbed - conical threads. If your collagen is lax, with minimal breakage (solar elastosis- sun damage), & if your dermal thickness is good, threads may be an option.
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How long do the results from threads last?
About 6 to 12 months. Honestly, more towards the former than the later. PDO threads dissolve in 6-7 months however histological studies have shown collagen stimulation for up to 9 months.
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What is the science behind thread lifts?
Thread in the dermis & hypodermis causes tissue fibrosis, meaning collagen stimulation. This improves laxity. Another theory is that threads in the subcutaneous tissue cause mild apoptosis of fat cells & tightening of the fibrous septae between fat lobules.
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What combinations work best?
Really depends on your clinical presentation, age, dermal thickness, ethnicity & expectations. Dermal fillers can be placed under threads. RF & HIFU can give synergistic effects. If skin quality needs improvement, certainly lasers can be beneficial.
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What threads can not do?
They can not give meaningful volumetric displacement. They are not a substitute for surgical intervention.
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Davin Lim
@drdavinlim
Dermatologist
Brisbane
Australia - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I had the procedure with thread lifts for my marionette lines. Had 10 threads inserted in my cheeks. It lifted my cheeks, reduced my marionette lines, made my face shorter and firmer. The procedure was not painful. I am doing it again for sure. Look 10 years younger, and my face looks the same, just younger.
@Tracy Mothersbaugh 300 EUR in Croatia, Europe.
How long did it last?
One minute for anesthetic cream application, few seconds for each needle. No bruises, no pain. But, be careful , plan dentist appointments before.
@@ANITA-iw8mf Hi Anita! How are they holding up?
Can this treatment be done on face for severe acne scars? Example on cheeks/ temple area ?
Refreshing to hear a Dr who explains what procedures actually do as well as giving us pros and cons.
I had no idea my fave TH-cam doctor was tatted up and I AM HERE FOR IT! Shows more of your personality, Davin.
I love it when people call people by their first names. Usually when my best friend or bf call me by my name I know I’m in trouble or if it’s a stranger then I fully expect to turn around and see someone giving me that joker smile
Shows irresponsibility and lack of professionalism to me.
This has been the most informative video about pdo threads I have seen so thank you. I got this done for my nasiolabial folds and am very happy with the results
You never disappointed us Dr. Lim!😊
I was just going to explore PDO threads and you uploaded a video on it 🥰 Thank you Dr Lim. 💕
One of the best videos on PDO threads, I have seen. Would love to see a cog thread video,.
have been waiting for this Dr. Lim!!! Thank you for the education. Waiting to see the response of the ultherapy done at your clinic!
Good to have you back!
The only video that I found explained the procedure. All others only spoke about barbed threads. Thank you so much for the clarification.
Amazing!!! Tks a lot for this. It would be amazing having a video of you doing the procedure. And the lift too!!!
I had threads a few months ago and are extremley happy with the results that just keep getting better. ( I was a good candidate) I didnt know about the collagen treatment to enhance so thank you Sooo much for this informative video. I will be doing that for sure! I did get a fair bit of brusing along the jaw line but a good makeup covered it up very well. I highly recommend this treatment. Im one for subtle changes that make me look more refreshed and anything that can help along the jawline like this a winner!
That is so awesome! ow many did you have and what did they cost? Thanks so much.
Thank you doctor. I appreciate your candid and honest information.
Such a wonderful explanation of this treatment and other treatments. Thank you!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! What an informative, wonderful video! the best I have come across! Brilliant! Thank you for answering all the questions one could have and more!
I love your work. Always with clear explanations
Invaluable info for those having it done!
Very informative video as always. Thank you, Dr. Lim.
I love this doctor! I wish he could be my doctor! I would definitely trust him to do threads on my face!
I believe his highly skilled RN's do this procedure under his oversight. He picks the best and most skilled RNs.
Love all of your videos, your voice, and tattoos 😍❤️👏🏼
Great to hear from an Aussie on these topics! Good on ya mate!
I don't need PDO but still happy to hear Ur explanation.
Cheeeeers!!
Thank you for being so truthful. Love your page
As usual, fantastic, well organised, information. What about PLLA threads? Do they offer same results as sculptra? 😉
Very informative Dr Lim, thank you! Would love to see a video on cone/barb threads as I am considering this procedure.
Agreed. No one here in the US uses this technique much. The barb threads are all the rage at the moment. This video was very informative and I really appreciate it! Please make a video about the barb threads Dr. Davin Lim. We love you!! Great job.
WOW! This is great information! Thank you for sharing this.
Loved the video, how you emphasised on the essential info and words. Subscribed ! Wish you could be my doc. 🙌
Informative video! Could you perhaps talk about what the popular procedures are in South Korea?
I currently have Barbed PDO threads. It's literal magic for jowls and nasal folds. However, it hurt ALOT even with lidocaine injected. Prepare for a day or two off after. It hurts to smile, brush your teeth, eat. It cost $1500. I like the results but considering the cost, pain and not lasting that long I doubt I'd do it again.
How long did it last for you? Many thanks
@@ShellyAF1 I've only had them for a couple weeks. My face still hurts a bit. The effects, in general, only last about a year if no additional threads are added after the initial.
@@sassy7506 Thanks for replying :)
diy
I wish to lift my nasal folds too, where did you have this done?
Nurse Injector here. I combine pdo threads with RF Microneedling and have great results with the right patients. I also use this to compliment HA filler for areas of laxity or where filler isn’t the right procedure. I inject lidocaine prior to insertion and yes, bruising is common in the neck. Spacing it out depends on the area being treated like you mentioned
which procedure suppose to be as a first RF or PDO?
Video says best candidates are those with a thick dermis.
The dermis lies beneath the epidermis. So how do you know whether you have a thick dermis or tin dermis?
Very informative. What size threads are usually used in the area that you are talking about?
Thanks for sharing. Gives some great insight as to what these threads can achieve
Oh thank you so much for that lesson. I’m 65 with marionette line’s & only the cost of the procedure would delay me having this procedure.
Red Led light mask, then tretinoin is worth a try. No pain. It’s a slow process but then any result is worth waiting for. It’s not as quick and impactful but then threading isn’t guaranteed either. I’ve been on the LedLight mask since Nov ‘20. (This is 8/‘21). I think the puppet lines are less now. I’m 73. In my area, using the “Rx” free coupon knocks off about 45$ for the tretinotin. Don’t rush the process as it’s slow in acclimating the skin. Now I can use these every day but that took months. No bruising, infection, uneven sides of the face, not noticeable. I mean, really, the thread can show!
@@Donna-cc1kt what brand of LedFaceMask do u use n tretinoin? How often do u use the LedLightMask?
@@alimama234 I have the Current Body LED mask. I did a lot of research before picking and this one is the best.
Everything you said makes sence..Thank you!
Doctor! Thank you so much 💓 great presentation 👍
Thank you for this very informative video.
Thank you for the very informative video doc!
Please add a video about the newest barbed threads. That’s what is being used where I live in the US.
I just got Matrix threads done yesterday with a fantastic injector. After numbing cream it was so quick and almost painless (just a tiny sting, very bearable). No bruising, swelling, pain at all. I'm getting hyperdilluted Radiesse next in 4 weeks as part of my treatment plan to build up collagen and firm up jawline/prejowls and Belotero for chin projection/v-line. It looks so natural no one can tell even 1 hour after treatment that anything was ever done...takes a few weeks to see the full results but I was a pretty good candidate as I am at the mild sagging stage with thick skin/fat levels at age 40. I do at-home chemical peels & Retin A, serums religiously and have a healthy diet/lifestyle/avoid sun exposure which also helps greatly 😉😁🤞
That s sound good 👍🏻 in which country you are?
Could you please share who the practitioner is? 😊
@@nazhakroucht4718 Melbourne, Australia
thank you for such wonderful explanation!
Do you combine the radio frequency/radio frequency micro needling on the same day as the pdo lift? Before or after thread insertion?
Very informative video Dr. Lim! How far apart should high frequency and PDO be done? Same day? Order in which to administer? For optimal results 🙏🏼
High frequency then pdo
Thanks for your amazing video!
I been thinking about to do!
Oh man I’ve always wondered about this. They look terrifying 🤣
So eloquently and clearly explained. Thank you. I would trust you to work on my face. Too bad you are in Australia.
Very educational, thanks doc.
I bet people into needle play would love this.
Everyone I've seen doing threads seemed to have very full results. So did I,especially my lips. I never heard that it took away fat.
It makes no sense for threads to do anything to fat...
Hi Dr. Davin Lim! I was wondering if you could cover the new magnetic lash tech that's out there. Everyone is raving about this lashify stuff.. I'm kind of scared to use them.. hearing about "magnetic particles" near my eye is a big no for me (I would really worry if I ever needed to have an MRI especially.)
Do you have any experience on this or can direct me to somewhere that really shows the safety regarding this?
Weird that this showed up on my list. Never heard of this but interesting. I like all my wrinkles... I’ll keep them.
Will you do a video on the suspension threads? This is what my Dr suggested but I’m a little scared 😅
thank you so much for this very honest and informatve video:))
Thank you. I learn so much from you
Hi Doc,
I did lipo on my lower face and that cause fibrosis. When i talk there would be skin depression because of the lipo. So i corrected it with fillers. And now it looks nice. And it looks nicer with threads. I did them 4-5 before. Are the safe in my case? Many thanks 🙏🏻
Thank you!!! Think you probably just saved me money.
Are there specific patterns you’re supposed to follow when doing them safe from the nose down or can you just put them in anyway you want or should there be a specific pattern? Great great video every time I had a question you answered it with your next question lol lol thank you.
I like this video! Very informative
Thanks for the video on this.
love you information, what do you think of DIY PDO threads ?
13:25 If you take the right PDO threads, 26g screw for example, you will get volume! I filled up my gaunt looking cheeks by doing this on my own at home. And it worked fantastically, looks very natural, as I'm not a fan of fillers at all.
How many in cheeks
Can you teach me plz?? Im sooo desperate
I'm 65 and screw threads are a game changer. I do my own🙂
I use both
@@laurawhite5013 how do you do it on your own? How do you know the exact spot under the skin to place them?
Great info!👏
so interesting!!! thank you
Can you do a video on placement of the threads for the desired results. I feel like each time I go to my doctor for the marionette lines and jowls, it’s not as effective as I feel like they should be. I don’t think she is placing them properly. Also some of the placement for underneath my chin, as the threads have dissolved over time, indicates that they were placed unevenly and over tightened. So again what would be the ideal placement of threads to tighten a chin? Thanks
This seems like a nutty thing to do.
Appreciate this Post. Just Subscribed.
Thank you Doctor❤️
Thanks for the video. Would you recommend this to a patient who has little but somehow sagging jowls?
Great video on Threads, I’m going to be having them done soon, my injector is wonderful and I’ve been going to her for years and Trust her to do this procedure on my one and only face @60+, I just have to save a little money to get it done as I’m due to have my Botox in those areas you mentioned, the forehead, 11’s and around my eyes all at the same time. Cheers from Brisbane also, my injector knows you as well which is a bonus for me. I’m pretty sure she worked at your clinic at some stage. Thank you Dr Lim. 😊
How did you like your results??
@@ZoeMC369 unfortunately I wasn’t a candidate for this procedure, it’s a year old video, as I stated in my above comment, I truly trust my injector with my one and only face and she didn’t recommend it for me, I guess I’m just too Old Lol 😂, on someone younger than myself I think they’d have great results but it just wasn’t for me and I Truly Appreciate Her Honesty and just didn’t do them for the sake of the money 💰, she’s an absolute doll. Maybe ask someone else from a different channel and see how they went. I’m sorry I couldn’t help you. Have a Great Day and Weekend ahead. 😊❤️❤️🇦🇺🦘🐨
@@-nellie-m3711 thank you so much for the feedback! I love when practitioners are honest and discerning enough to not recommend certain things on our one and only face lol. I hope up have an excellent weekend as well!! 💕🙏🏼
@@ZoeMC369 Your Most Welcome 😊, Good Luck with whatever you decide on. 🥰
Curious why you didn’t mention red light therapy. It is a heating treatments and it’s used for all sorts of things & has benefits similar to the other things you mentioned. It is also good for bruising after procedures especially if you have thin pale skin
Can you please make a separate video on types of Hyper pigmentation specifically on exogeneous ochronosis......,,.
Very informative.
Dr Davin. I love your beautiful smile and I like those tattoos thank you for sharing this good info I would love to do the treatment. 😊
Hi Dr. I would like to knkw if it is true that radiofrecuency like CO2 resurfacing can cause dark spot or melasma to some kind of color skin? Please I appreciaate your answer a lot. XOXO
I had a severe infection from PDO threads. Culture revealed non-tuberculous mycobacterium fortuitum specie. I was on ciprofloxacin & clarithromycin for 1 year.
I always wanted to do this nd because my dermis is thin now I know I won't benefit, thanks dr :)
Gin Amber// how do we know if our dermis is thin or not? I really don't know how to tell.
You would benefit from Mono threads. They cause collagen induction which tightens the skin. Almost everyone could benefit from this kind. He's speaking about barbed lifting threads.
I had 16 pdo cogs placed in my brow/cheeks/under eyes/jowls looked great for a few weeks but was in agony as dhe pulled them that tight but unfortunately once rhey all settled my skin was sagging extremely disappointed especially paying all that money 😢.. But i decided to start diy treatments ive placed many pdo/pcl mono & screw threads along with Microneedling/mesotherapy/botox/skin boosters/plasma fibroblast and ive completely lifted & tightened the sagging my face has never felt so firm and lifted i swear by the mono & screw threads 😊
Great info
Hi Dr, I would love to see you as you are soooooo good! But I live in Adelaide, so would you able to recommend a Dr in my city? Many thanks 🙏
When I have melting stiches my skin doesn’t heal at the stitch site until I pull it out, does this mean it’s a no go for me?
Ultherapy HURTS. Big time but helpful. I find prp microneedling just as effective for me
Thank you! 🙏
Thank you!
I have rosacea and have ice-picked scars which laser do you think 🤔 is safer for me and also brings out the best results
oh but are they worth it ? another question :what is the skin in the area thats treated like in 12 months time ?
Dr. Lim I've experienced more pain in life. No way am I going to have this done to look younger. Plus I'd want you as my doctor for surgical procedures but I'm in Illinois 🇺🇸
I had threads done a few days ago along with prf/prp injections. What are your thoughts on combining these two procedures?
PRP imo is a waste of so much money. It was incredibly painful and the only pro was the mid swelling. After a day or 2 of all swelling gone, I had no results.
Looks wild
Thanks. I always watch your videos. You talk alot about sucission. Can tread also work as subcision for acne scars? After all it is a niddle, even though tiny!
I came to ask the same question! I hope somebody answers with a yes lol
Dr can you please talk about any surgeries that make the eyes longer or larger?? I can only find things like double eyelid surgery which don't seem to be for me -I'm 23 and white, I have slightly hooded eyes I guess but I feel they are small and too close together.
If I could get bigger eyes, my whole face would be so much better
Once the thread lift is done, will the effect of the treatment be affected after for eg sleeping on the side, or maybe rubbing the skin with makeup remover?
Thanks. Can they be used between the eyebrows? Thanks.
Taking arnica before treatment can help with bruising
Thank you
Hi Dr, I’m thinking of doing mono threads and ultherapy but should I do ultherapy first or threads first?
Thanks 😊
What about PCL or Plla threads
Are does threads scars “since they are not last longer than 2 years “ are problem for future plastic surgery? 🙏🙏
What about pdo nose thread lift? Is it the same thing?
Why do you leave them sticking out like that? Why don't you remove them right after they are inserted? Is it to remember she you placed them?
I just had it done by a professional for free as a training class.
It didn’t look like the above needles. Instead they numbed my face in a straight line from the top of my cheek bone to the bottom of my neck with lidocaine, which burned like crazy!
Then they inserted the hollow tubed needles in six places, one at a time, from my check to my neck - they had to be about seven inches long - and pulled them out leaving the thread sticking out.
They did two next to each other, twisted, Rubbed upward and pushed it beneath the skin.
The results… enough pain to make it uncomfortable
to eat for two days, sore, bruising type of pain, and pinching for a week. It almost feels like your face is fatigued so eating, talking and smiling are an effort.
As for what I look like …… drum roll….I look like nothing ever happened!!!! An Infinitesimal difference… not a person would notice! I don’t even look refreshed.
Verdict: Not worth it. Save a little more and get a lower face lift. Thank god I didn’t pay for this!!