Many A Stock Memories
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- A film about the former London Transport / London Underground Metropolitan Line A stock trains which were introduced in the early 1960's and withdrawn in 2012.
The trains are seen (both outside and inside) in original format, after refurbishment for one person operation, with three different styles of refurbishment and in their final format.
Mostly this film comprises S-VHS and HD video but it also includes other formats as well as still images and a little silent super 8 cine film from the days before I had a camcorder. Footage seen dates from the late 1970's to 2012.
Music: On the Cool Side. Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
License: CC-BY-3.0
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The A Stock was historically significant for multiple reasons:
🚇 It was the fastest London Underground rolling stock, and the world's fastest rolling stock to operate on 4th rail electrification.
🚇 It was the only London Underground rolling stock with luggage racks and umbrella hooks, as it was designed for journeys that could last over 1 hour.
🚇 It was the last London Underground rolling stock with no automated announcements.
🚇 At the time of its withdrawal, it was the oldest rolling stock in service on any metro system anywhere in Europe, having lasted for more than 50 years in service.
The A Stock defined the Metropolitan line for me.
They also operated on the East London line before it was converted to Overground in four car operation.
Oludotun John Showemimo I 100% agree with you on that it was my first line I ever went on when I was a young child and the A stock will forever be in bedded in my mind when I think of old metropolitan from back in the day
@@slygovnor8356 the seats were so comfortable, I often slept off and missed my stop
Those trains were built to a proper standard sized subway train on the Underground and they were the best on the network. I loved the A60/62 Stock on the Metropolitan Line and East London Line because they were legendary to travel on before all of them were scrapped in the end.
Heavy Solid trains that deserved preservation rather then scrapping.
Alas, they had asbestos and were deemed a potential health hazard - as long as their bodywork remained intact they were safe, the danger was that in years to come someone might start doing work on them which includes drilling holes in their bodywork without realising the risk of releasing the asbestos in to the atmosphere.
@@CitytransportInfoplus So does that mean that even if some units were put for decoration in a museum and visitors entered them that they could catch asbestos? 🤔
14:06 Those old Aldersgate maps could still be seen in some carriages (if faded) right up until the end of refurbishment in 1997/98. Was always an odd experience looking at a line map almost 40 years old!
Loving your throwback videos man it really makes me miss the old stocks even more by watching your videos even though I'm only 20 years of age.
Considering that you are 25 years old you were born way too late for the Golden Age of the Underground when the best of old trains were in service, ie 1931/34, 1938, 1962, 1967, 1973, and 1983 TS. Plus F20, O/P, and R Stocks.
I never went on the A stock but i will always remember going past Aldgate on the District line and looking at the A stock.
From that view, I even didn't notice there was a station.
Lovely archives of footage. Great to see all this, the way it used to be!
I always loved the A Stock particularly in the 2000s when I was a small child. I always remember going to and from the city, the best when it goes fast and you can bounce on the comfiest seats in the world and race past the other LU Stocks.
When S8 Stocks were introduced, I liked a few ideas they had (including walk-through trains to make life easier), but the they don't really have the characteristics of the true Met line rolling stock.
The last time I ever saw an A Stock was in December 2016, when one was a RAT, at Moor Park. I even got it to whistle. Thankfully there's one car at the Acton Museum, but every time I see that train I'd remember straight back to my childhood of these old yet wonderful machines.
Good memories.
All hail the mighty Big Met. King of LT. Nearest thing we had to NY trains, I just adore this chunky design in aluminum grey. Her little sisters on the H&C were also beautiful but The Big Met was the 800lb gorilla on the network. Thanks for a lovely film and some great memories.
Thank you :-) by the way, you may have noticed that I do not have any films from NYC. I've never been there - went to other, smaller US cities instead.
Back in the day when Metropolitan line ran all stations, fast and semi-fast services all day, everyday.
It also ran on the East London line in 4 car formation (now part of Overground) but did its main job on the Metropolitan Line. Miss the A Stock.
I hope one day I can ride the A stock again. So many childhood memories
alas, they have all gone - because of asbestos none were saved for preservation - the concern was that an unwary person in the preservation movement might unwittingly do something to the train's bodywork that causes asbestos to be released in to the atmosphere
It is a VERY BIG shame.
I will be absolutely devastated when the Central Line/Waterloo & City Line 1992 stock goes. That is my childhood. I was born in October 1993. I turn 30 this year. It has been around my whole life.
@@user-lj6jp8qp7z tbh the Central line is the line I've travelled on the least (I live in Harrow so no reason to take it).
I do have a soft spot for the 1973 stock and I will be sad when those trains are retired on the Piccadilly line
@@apx2444....the Bakerloo line trains are now the oldest trains on the tube network, dating from 1967. They're similar in looks to the Piccadilly line trains, but an older version.
It's weird though that the Piccadilly line trains are going to be replaced first.
I'm guessing this is because the Piccadilly line carries alot more people than the Bakerloo line does - plus it serves London's biggest airport, so I guess this is why they made the decision they did.
New Piccadilly line trains to arrive in 2025. But new Bakerloo line trains not until 2030 at the earliest. Even the Central line will get brand new stock before then. But again it carries alot more people than the Bakerloo line does. I think the Bakerloo line carries the fewest amount of people per year of any of the tube lines - except the Waterloo & City line.
Glad to have caught this video. I lived in the UK for a short time (2007-9) and rode this equipment regularly between Amersham and points east. There was a lot of talk of the new trains coming while I was there, but it would be another 3 years, I guess, until the new stuff finally arrived. I had the opportunity to ride the new S stock while back on a visit. They are certainly nice trains, but there was something special about those old trains, with their air chimes and whistles.
I'm probably in the minority these days, but coming from Chesham I miss the days of northbound fast trains missing out Wembley Park. However running fast over the various junctions at Wembley wasn't always the most comfortable experience.
Another great A Stock review. Thanks for sharing !
That canal shot was a thing of beauty
I just watched the onboard footage in time with the real life journey onboard an S stock - and the sounds still almost match up with the movements. Good memories
Ah, reminiscence. I'm half pleased they went, and half sad to have seen them go. Those windy, clanky old things were the humanity of the Metropolitan Line. But then, it's quite nice to step onto the new S stock in the heat we've been having and not completely boil.
Now that I agree with. Sad seeing oldies go but good not to bake alive :p
That experimentally refurbished one looks very interesting, class 313/455 style seating , new ceilings, and the pink grab poles look just like in First buses.
+citytransportinfo Great Video! You have quite an impressive collection of videos of the A Stock. Hopefully you could do more of these sort of things for some of the other old trains like the 72s or 73s?
I do miss the A stock. I rarely went on them, but I do remember them wizzing by whenever I went to Kilburn station.
Unfortunately I never got to ride on one of these beauties. Really good video showing what they were like both before and after refurbishment
I cannot promise anything but there is always hope that one of the two trains that still exist will be used on an enthusiasts special. But it might be that a special fare will be charged.
Most of my time on the A stock was from Rayners Lane to Uxbridge. They were very comfortable.
That clicking noise it makes when it first starts moving, that's the bit that does it for me.
My only memories of the A stock are distant as I was quite young when they were replaced. I just love the overall feel of them. They united the metropolitan line which I am greatful for. I also grew up with the S-Stock and so I also find that sentimental as well. I do like the girth on the A. I think we need a more powerful train to run fast services and let the S-Stock run local. Also electify Chiltern rail and put the Aylesbury route on the overground.
Funny how I have been on the tube more times than I can remember but I have only been on an a stock train twice in my life, and both journeys were only within the central london area. I more commonly found myself on the d stock and c stock most of the time of which I have had countless journeys on both. Shame I never got the chance to ride these more, especially into the heart of metroland!
Very impressive collection. Quality video
Thank you.
There’s hardly any character left in the Tube anymore. 😔
1972 and 1973 are the last ones with proper character imo
@@jonah6404 The 1973 stock "pretends" to be modern... dot matrix, grey ends, etc.
@Uzbek Traveller I do prefer the ones on the Waterloo and City... I do respect your opinion
@Uzbek Traveller The ones on the Waterloo and City are not ATO
hardly any character? I LIKE THE 1995,2009,1992 and S stocks better! But I do miss the D stock
nice video! i would like to see D78 stock memories as they were really good stock! still very nice.
Thanks. I still need to make a C stock memories! This something that I'd like to do during the coming winter.
The D stock memories will include some Vivarail D-Trains - so i am waiting for these to enter service on the Isle of Wight and by Transport For Wales.
Love watching the fast train, all stations train and mainline train in one clip
I just love looking at the destination put on the top of the train
Miss those Metropolitan and East London Line A Stock, they were comfortable to sleep on. I sometimes missed my stop because I slept off on those trains.
Aa yes the A stock one of my favourite stocks in my early 10s in 1990 I loved this train and the old C stocks and all the memories
lovely stuff
great content!
It does sound very similar to a 59/62 stock. Traction motor sounds very similar too but with different gearing.
16:40 The fast train at full speed was something to experience!!
It used to travel at up to 70mph!!! ...on the long 'non-stop' section - that's faster than any commuter train above ground.
@@robtyman4281 It was a literal fairground ride! Lots of fun but also on the limit of dangerous, the enormous cars used to bounce around like crazy!! Finchley Road to Harrow was a 15min roller coaster!!
surely less than 15 minutes? - the non-stop run Finchley Road - Moor Park was timetabled for 19 minutes
It used to be that on Boxing Day a handful of stations would be open ... the trains went to Amersham via Watford and the non-stop southbound journey (which is downhill) from Amersham to Rickmansworth must have seen the train reach something like 80mph. The train really zoomed along. I tried to film it but the ride was so rough that the camera could not be held steady enough to get a viable image
@@CitytransportInfoplus Maybe less you might well be right, it was a long time ago! I never travelled on Boxing Day but that must’ve been a lot of fun! Gone but not forgotten, I adore those aluminum days before the plastic colors and ugly new trains. The A, D, 38, even the 62 stocks were peak LT for me!
19:42 I like how all the people in the carriage just don’t give 0 craps if the lights flicker a lot!
Happened to me on the bakeloo line and I didn’t care
Fondly remember the A STOCK on the Metropolitan and East London lines.
Now S8 stock has taken over the Metropolitan line and Class 378 has taken over the East London line, now part of Overground.
Metropolitan will share with the Hammersmith and City and Circle lines East of Baker Street and Liverpool Street / Aldgate.
I HATE S STOCK AND CLASS 378 FOR SPAMMING METROPOLOTIAN, EAST LONDON, HAMMERSMITH AND CITY LINE AND CIRCLE LINE AND RUIN LONDON UNDERGROUND HISTORY!!! I WANT A, C, D AND R STOCK!!! I LIKE S STOCK ON DISTRICT LINE BETTER THAN S STOCK ON METROPOLOTIAN, HAMMERSMITH AND CITY AND CIRCLE LINE AND CLASS 378 ON EAST LONDON LINE!!! S STOCK KEEP ON SPAMMING METROPOLOTIAN, HAMMERSMITH AND CITY AND CIRCLE LINE NON-STOP LIKE KNS/KSF SPAMMING NORTH SOUTH LINE IN SINGAPORE!!! CLASS 378 KEEP ON SPAMMING EAST LONDON LINE NON-STOP LIKE C801A AND C801B SPAMMING BUKIT PANJANG LRT, C151A SPAMMING EAST WEST LINE AND C751C AND C851E SPAMMING NORTH EAST LINE!!! I LIKE C151, C651, C751A, CT251, 1996 STOCK, 1972 STOCK, A STOCK, D STOCK, R STOCK, C STOCK, S STOCK ON DISTRICT LINE AND C801
@@svc143bsoe also see it from TfL's side. As stock gets older, parts will be much more difficult to obtain and maintaince and operational costs become increasingly expensive.
Think of how much it costs TfL to maintain and run the Bakerloo line 72mk1s and mk2s and the Piccadilly line 1973 stock nowadays.
They were life expired and were going to get replaced eventually.
I remember A stock with some affection.
For some reason I wouldn't feel safe on a fast service in the 90s
This train motor sound like retired C141 train on NSL build in 1979 from Yio Chu Kang to Whampoa
The C Stock at Moorgate, was it doing an anti-clockwise Circle line service or the westbound original Metropolitan line Hammersmith to Barking, (now the Hammersmith and City Line from 1990)?
A Stock did the main Met services as 8 cars and East London line services in 4 car formation? I use the Metropolitan line to work a lot in Harrow on The Hill
Also when Met services were fast, semi fast and all stations services all day, everyday. Now TfL has reduced fast and semi-fast services to peak hours only Monday to Friday
I MISS YOU A STOCK!!! 😭😭😭
I miss the D stock
Looks worth wa😮tching, thanks
Comfortable seats, but before they were refurbished and repainted they were looking very tired.
Boy, that was a mixed DMU formation at 3:50. Obviously Marylebone scraping together anything they could find to make up the numbers.
From a Guards point of view the A60 was like (In winter) a nightmare, going to Amersham my Road Trainer told me to buy a pair of ladies tights and wear them, after one run in December I bought a pair along with thick gloves and a tea can with hot coffee, It was just like working in a freezer, and through in uncoupling in the sidings at Amersham hoping you had a spare 20 amp fuse in the cab, or it's GD01 (Guard) go walkies which means climb down onto the track and check out another cab for a red control fuse, in 1974 LT failed to issue you with shoes and I wore thin sole lace-ups, add the snow and you find yourself swopping duties with a Guard on the Circle line, At Neasden we worked all of the "Woodline" (Metropolitan main) and we also did Circles (Max 6) if you worked at Baker Street 31 & 34 duties did EIGHT circles on a Saturday Ho ho ho, let them suffer, Getting back to the A60 after the refit what used to be NOT a problem became one RED & GREEN with A&D Ends, gone was the universal coupler, now you had to check your note book (SILLY) the best part of an A60 was a missing Guards bar, that "stopped" passenger from walking through your position WRONG again, no Guards bar and "ALL CHANGE" this train is out of service. BIG SMILE off you go to the front of the train and have some handle time (Driving) not that we did that wink wink.
thanks, fantastic reminisces! I used to try to get a cab ride when on my way to school - sometimes successfully! Some drivers would ask that I (and friends) duck when entering the stations because he did not want station staff to see a row of smiling faces in the cab with the train driver!
Generally I caught the 8:14am Liverpool St - Amersham when on my way to school. This used the now closed bay platform. On one summer morning the front seating bay (by the driver's cab) was infested with greenfly - I remember noticing a few flying around and on window sills when I boarded the train... then looking up and seeing a seething mass of green - that is when I ran....
I never let kids into my cab, but I did let a few enthusiasts have a ride, and yes I did get them to duck, you had to watch out for Area Managers all the time, I once had the extreme pleasure of "Farting" an Area Manager out of my cab during the "Rush hour" I will never forget the look on his face, thank God for "Beans on toast" 5p a slice from the Baker Street canteen (1977)
I wonder why Southern Region never bought the A stocks for their outer suburban services to Reading, Guildford, Tunbridge Wells & The Medway Towns in the 1960s? I could see them in the Southern Green livery, also it's pretty rare seeing a TfL service running fast through a regular National rail station! A la The Chesham Flyer not stopping at Harrow a BR station.
Other than the sliding doors, the EPB family of EMUs are effectively very similar to A6x stock.
The rubber tips at the end of the doors were longer in the unrefurbished trains, I wonder why they made them shorter
You should play something like "Theme from a Summer Place" or "Apache" that was first out when these trains were new ;)
I also noticed the refurbished A stock prototype didn't have a hustle alarm.
I have to be very careful with music tracks - I can only use them if they are not copyright restricted, otherwise I'll get in to trouble.
I made a point of including the door closing sequences, complete with live sound!
What do you mean by door closing sequences with a live sound?
Most of this film had live sound which was recorded at the same time as the video images however a few scenes came from silent super 8 film (or still images) where I had to add the sound.
The super 8 film clips included the views with the BR Mk2 coaches, the views at West Hampstead with the 1986 tube stock and the train departing from Chalfont and Latimer. All other motion picture footage came from videotape and the sounds were recorded simultaneously. This includes the refurbished train leaving Baker Street where the train driver wished me a Merry Christmas. This was filmed a day or so before Christmas 1990.
The de-icer cars are probably not gonna be scrapped
What happened to the Beulah video of the A stock from Uxbridge to North Harrow.
sorry but I have no idea, it will be a shame if it has been removed.
In the late 80's the Metropolitan Line was the best for Graffiti. Due to it's very porous surface, even after cleaning ghost images would remain on the outside of the cars.. It reached it's peak in 1989 after which it steadily declined. But the ghost images remained until repainting...
The ghost images were one of the reasons for repainting!
What ghost imagine?
deaser92 ...there was a big BTP operation in the summer of 89 on the met line, they gathered 3 years of evidence and were trying to put writers on trial, along with extra security including cctv
I f*king love the A-stock 1996 stock
I Wish The Headlights Not Only On 1 Side
Things were very different on the railways in those days - many trains were still hauled by steam engines and these tended to place their front lights at different locations around the front of the train to designate the type of train - express passenger, goods train, a train without passengers, and much more.
also, front lights were more seen as marker lights for the signalman and track workers to see - not headlights. Typically these lights were not at all bright - especially when oil lamps were used they were about as bright as a candle. Oh and of the glass lens on the light was dirty then the light could be very faint!
Would really love to ride A stocks too
'Missile proof cab windows'
I have several questions
The A stock went out of service around when the last 67 stock went out of service
Not quite, the A stock was withdrawn completely in 2012, while the 67 stock was withdrawn in 2011.
The lights still go off on the bakerloo line
20:26 sound like the train has taken a dump
With the familiar farting noise with it as well.
14:10 But the Hammersmith and Barking branches aren’t there. Was there something prevent A stock from running there? What did?
The A Stock operated a range of services that did not go to Hammersmith or Barking. They were actually banned from some of these routes because they were too wide.
@@CitytransportInfoplusthe Hammersmith to Barking part of the Metropolitan line back then is now the Hammersmith and City Line
What did they do with the unpreserved ones? Dumb them in the ocean? Make parts for S trains? Disassemble them?
I would be horrified if they were dumped in an ocean. That would be extremely bad.
As far as I recall, they were sold for scrap. But I do not know how they were scrapped.
citytransportinfo Americans do.
citytransportinfo Dumping in the ocean is what New York does.
Run free rails of heaven!
Great video, will C stock memories be coming anytime soon?
I keep putting it off ... partly because I have still not scanned all my still images which show them in their original condition (views inside the trains!) and this needs to be done before a film can be made.
Eventually a D78 stock memories film will come too! But I am waiting for more locations to start using the Vivarail conversions of these trains plus I need to find a good view inside the trains when they had a zig-zag pattern seat fabric.
Surely they could of sorted the intermittent light outage over rail gaps and pointwork by simply fitting a battery to just power the lights over the points and conductor rail gaps
This was done for the emergency lights (light bulbs - not fluorescent tubes) which would remain on if there was a power failure. It is also done on more modern trains.
God damn, I miss these. I wish I got to ride on an unrefurbished one!
The United Republic of Movingmillion Yeah, me too! 😔
they seemed much quieter after refurb,could hardly hear the motors :(
17:46 many 81-717s here get exactly the same interior colors after refurbishment
I cannot promise anything but there is always hope that one of the two trains that still exist will be used on an enthusiasts special. But it might be that a special fare will be charged.
Any idea why the seat moquette was changed a second time after refurbishment?
sorry I do not know ... I only know that it happened.
They seem to be changed every 10 years or so.
The old one went to the Isle of Wight to replace the Network South East seat covering
They really should've converted the Metropolitan line into an Overground, instead of East London Line... ELL was more tube-like than Met, they could've just extended it without changing the mode of operation
The historic nature of the services help to explain why this did not happen
btw in its early days the East London line was owned by a consortia of 6 railway companies, 2 of which ended up as part of London Transport with the remaining 4 ending up as part of British Railways.
In addition to goods / freight trains it was also used by BR passenger trains - such as summer weekend holiday excursion trains to the seaside from Loughton - these were still running in the 1950's, possibly even the 1960's, which was long after tube trains had taken over the route to Epping
@@CitytransportInfoplus in 2007 all this was irrelevant... It doesn't matter which companies used to own ELL or which services used to run on it. In 2007 it was all tube. The thing is ELL doesn't have this crazy branching like Met has, the whole line is inside Greater London, even after extensions, even as a part of the Overground it has a tube-like service, without any fast or semi-fast trains, with two minute interval between trains in the section between Dalston Junction and Surrey Quays. I just think someone really wanted a bite of it... Because if you look at the numbers after ELL extension as part of the Overground, it has more passengers than the Met...
2:37 so original
I lived in Pinner '70s and 80s
Did they want those grey tubes the 1970 ones I think to look like New York city subway trains? because they look very similar
which 1970 trains? btw, I have never been to New York and know little about its subway system.
citytransportinfo Shame, you would've had great footage of the R27 and R30(retired in 1990 and 1993, respectively), unrefurbished R44s and R46s, the R110 new technology test trains, and Redbirds. And the real grotty graffiti trains, I would've loved to ride that. I'm too young to experience all of that(born in 2004)
Dmmzzz UK I
Did you ever see the unpainted end of a train drive?
Did you use an S-VHS camera for most of the older footage?
Yes! Mostly Panasonic MS50 although in circa 1993 I also bought what I think was an Hitachi S83
You're profile picture looks very familler.. Where did you get it from?
8:58 that’s me😁😁😁
Where?
If I were LT, I would've tried this livery:PINK ALL OVER AND CLEAR WINDOWS
the law requires that train doors are in a contrasting colour so that people with less than 20 20 vision have a better chance of being able to see the doorways
Than maybe orange to contrast with the sky. OR red for trees. Or yellow for both
Do you have a c stock memory video.
I will have, but not for a few months. However I have some films with C Stock trains which you may find to be of interest. Below are links to two of them:
th-cam.com/video/eqn_-3CsxCY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/FZifC6uBPq4/w-d-xo.html
Metropolitan Line A Tube Stock
what was the name of that awesome musical piece at the beginning of this video anyone please?
Its called "On the Cool Side" and is creative commons copyright free. It was written by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
There is a link to his website in the film text.
KOOTHA KOOTHA 🤔 i mean, what does one reply to a comment of this nature, does one even give it the attention it doesn’t deserve, someone from the Internet has judged me upon 1 track that I enjoyed instead of my vast playlists of different gems that I’ve acquired over many years from many different genres. But then I am a sound collector after all. So I guess the comment reveals a ‘crapness’ about you. Music is subjective to the listener.
wow c stock still looks like now
Can you do many memories of the D-Stock please.
I intend to do this but at present I am waiting for more developments with the Class 230 D-train
Didn't the power available on these units get turned down by around 10-15% in the mid 1990s ??? An attempt to improve reliability possibly?
The top speed was reduced quite significantly, from 70 mph to 50 mph, as the trains were getting old and there was a desire to reduce 'wear and tear' and keep them running without major expenditure on the bogies (wheel units).
@@CitytransportInfoplus Thanks. I can remember them running at a full 70mph. The bouncing over the points at Neasden was pretty nerve wracking to say the least!
can you please do a inside d stock constrastes video
I plan to but am waiting / hoping for a Vivarail train to include in the film!
citytransportinfo good luck with the vivarail project, I heard it was scrapped
0:36 When was this photo taken
1992 timeline
re: the photo at Chesham showing an A stock train in 'as built' condition, I cannot give an accurate date as this information was not recorded on the film but I think I got my first SLR camera in the early 1980s and this could have been filmed anytime after that - but before the trains were refurbished.
What were the missile proof windows for?
people throwing stones
Why would they do that?
In case a war broke out ie WW3, and enemies launched a anti-tank missile through the windscreen of a A Stock train
This is what the the A-stock replaced.
www.flickr.com/photos/seadipper/3006033505
www.flickr.com/photos/seadipper/3041837428
Far better - much more fun!
why were the london underground train white and other trains coloured.
when the A stock was new it was unpainted aluminium, which looked white, but years later the trains had to be painted because it was not possible to completely remove graffiti vandalism without leaving marks showing that it had been there
i love this video. the a stock is my favourte train why do they replace them with unreliable computerised trains. remember if it still works dont fix it
Alas, the A stock trains were wearing out and the bench type of seating dated from a different era / was disliked.
@@CitytransportInfoplus Well they dont know what a good reliable train is.
At the time of its withdrawal, the A Stock was more than 50 years old. It was so old that spare parts were very hard to obtain, and maintaining the trains was becoming uneconomical.
10:17 merry Christmas
17:29 the design there looked similar to many Network South East train interiors at the time.
Later on they had much quieter motors. Around 08:00 is the familiar loud hum around the 80s.
From what I recall, the amount of noise from the motors is one of the few differences between the A60 and A62 fleets.
@@CitytransportInfoplus well could be, I just wondered that all the later footage I've seen, the trains were much quieter. I wondered whether they had different motors or better servicing, or better components. Not sure.
So the A stock used to be the number 1 oldest and then the 1972 and 1967 trains came second and third
And they look horrible.
And how about the R-Stock?
6:11 what the heck is that noise. Is it the horn or a little girl screaming
small baby in a pushchair / stroller / buggy.
What does he mean by missile proof
people throwing stones, bricks, etc at passing trains.
birds too
Proof against anything up to an Exocet I believe
They could have done the same thing with them as they've done with the d stock
these were older trains that had problems with asbestos and were knackered - The D stock trains were 20 years younger and had recently been refurbished - including having been equipped with new bogies that had many years of life left
I understand the issues with the a stock but what about the c stock they are quite a bit younger and had been refurbished
@@dorikaroxby783 The oldest C stock were only 7 years younger than the youngest A stock. Maybe the second batch could've been saved as they were 8 years younger again.
I love thease but they have gone
I feel the same way!
What's a DM ?
Driving motor - a railway car (carriage) with a driving position for the train driver plus electric motors for propulsion
citytransportinfo thanks a lot !!!