What if the Spanish Empire NEVER Collapsed?

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  • The Kingdom of Spain had a very disappointing collapse of their Empire, everything in red used to be controlled by Spain, making them one of the biggest Empires in human history, although they’re often forgotten, as the British, Roman, and Mongol Empires are more popular.
    After Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Spain, it all started going downhill. After the Peninsular War, Spain was in a political crisis, accompanied by the loss of its overseas colonies in the Americas and the rise of Basque and Catalan nationalism during the Industrial Revolution.
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  • @genovesator8454
    @genovesator8454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +302

    Girls: He's probably already forgotten me.
    Boys 150 years later:

  • @idie6606
    @idie6606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Viva España from the Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭❤️🇪🇸🇪🇸

    • @josevicentelopeztel2072
      @josevicentelopeztel2072 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Viva Filipinas, desde España.

    • @randomanon8631
      @randomanon8631 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Viva! from honduras ❤

    • @yaboiN3O9
      @yaboiN3O9 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Viva Filipinas from a Mexican in Spain 🇪🇸​🇲🇽​❤​🇵🇭​

    • @fargonzo7020
      @fargonzo7020 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Viva la hispanidad 🤍♥️

    • @Kanmeii
      @Kanmeii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      los hispanos de Asia, ¡siempre hermanos! Viva Filipinas

  • @generellconfusion2592
    @generellconfusion2592 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    In almost every single map of the spanish empire they either forget the spanish netherlands or the spanish holdings in italy. It infuriates me.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      I didn't forget them, I simply showed a map from 1790, a bit before the Napoleonic wars

    • @generellconfusion2592
      @generellconfusion2592 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@rewriting-history In the video when you showed the map you said that this was all the land the spanish empire used to controlled which is wrong since it didn't include the spanish netherlands, milan and sardinia.

    • @AdrianTresentsCobos
      @AdrianTresentsCobos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In 1790 spain didn’t own Italy

    • @generellconfusion2592
      @generellconfusion2592 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@AdrianTresentsCobos I'm not saying it did. He said that the territory shown on the map was all the land spain used to own, which is false. I was not referring to that specific year. But all the territory spain owned in it's history.

    • @epiphany195
      @epiphany195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@generellconfusion2592he never said that’s all the land they ever owned tho u just wanna be mad abt something

  • @jeremiahmarlow8938
    @jeremiahmarlow8938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +182

    Have a wonderful day

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Appreciate it, you too!

    • @tarikbogucanin4359
      @tarikbogucanin4359 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@rewriting-historyrealism:8/10 very good and realistic subscribe😊

    • @chorosenkotriuglic4037
      @chorosenkotriuglic4037 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks bro, you too 😊

    • @Hahatomato
      @Hahatomato 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You too!

    • @spaggotyee5466
      @spaggotyee5466 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You too man

  • @rorymoore9269
    @rorymoore9269 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    This is probably my Favourite video you've made. This is incredible! Thank you, also I'll probably give it a 9 in Realism. Makes Quite a lot of sense.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Glad you liked it! Really amazed that so many people like it so far!

  • @matacurrei5665
    @matacurrei5665 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Algunos errores.
    Los territorios americanos de España, no eran colonias, eran virreinatos y capinanias generales.
    Diferente a la política anglosajona de ir y matar todo lo que no fuera pálido y desabrido.

  • @jonC1208
    @jonC1208 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    There is one really important thing about the carlists, they supported de centralization a lot which would help a lot keeping the empire toguether. Also is likely that eventually the capital is moved to mexico as spain itself was probably the weakest area of the empire and since spain intermixed with locals eventually there would likely be given equal votes american spanish and peninsular spanish and "tye colony" would be closer to spain itself

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Moving the capital is a really interesting suggestion. If I knew that, I could have added it in the video for sure!

    • @jonC1208
      @jonC1208 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@rewriting-history the spanish constitution that ferdinand refused gave equal rights to the spanish on both sides of the athlantic and were seen as equals, not the philipines, those were much more of a colony, and probably after 1 or 2 generations it would be more of an american state more worried about brazil usa or canada (uk) than european affairs as mainland spain was a backwater compared to the american parts. In the spanish empire fir every 10 gold coins 1 was used in europe and 9 in the americas. Thats the reason why spain was irrelevant after loosing the empire whike france or uk quickly recovered

    • @Benito-lr8mz
      @Benito-lr8mz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​​@@jonC1208Today the quality of Life is better in Spain than France or U.K and today the U.K its a simple troupe of U.S and France IS obsvoously no a first superpower .

    • @jonC1208
      @jonC1208 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Benito-lr8mz currentmy the uk or france has a higuer gdp per capita. But my point is that france after loosing its empire quickly got another as did the uk but spain never recovered

    • @arriba_teruel
      @arriba_teruel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      carlists were the most keen yo decentralization

  • @gabrieleitor280
    @gabrieleitor280 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Spain had no colonies man, that was their territories too just that directed from the Capital as almost all empires, just something i wanted to mention but good video anyway

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Still glad that you liked it! Always looking to improve my content

    • @mauris4583
      @mauris4583 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Si no recuerdo mal, los virreinatos y capitanías generales en América fueron reconocidos formalmente como "territorio español" en la última parte de las campañas de independencia. osea, en términos generales si eran un estado colonial pero con más libertades.

    • @tercomada
      @tercomada 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No creo, pues la libertad que había era la misma que en la península ​@@mauris4583

    • @gabrieleitor280
      @gabrieleitor280 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mas o menos si claro, por eso lo digo también@@mauris4583

    • @soropintoresco9030
      @soropintoresco9030 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@mauris4583 Nosotros NUNCA FUIMOS COLONIAS, eso es estúpido, la organización jurídica del imperio español estaba formada por Reinos, Provincias, Capitanías generales y Virreinatos, nosotros éramos virreinatos, No éramos colonias, colonias las que tenían los ingleses o los franceses, donde solo se extraía un producto y se llevaba a la metrópolis.
      En la América española las cosas no fueron así, aquí habían ciudades, sistemas de salud, recreo y de ley públicos, había sistema educativo y reconocimiento de todos los ciudadanos de los virreinatos como súbditos del Rey, por ende equivalentes a los peninsulares.
      Y en tema de riqueza los virreinatos eran varias veces más ricos tanto en pib per cápita como en pib bruto que la península, La Nueva España, era la potencia económica más grande del mundo occidental y ciudad de México era una señora ciudad mientras Madrid era un pueblucho en comparación, y en la América inglesa nisiquiera había ciudades, la Nueva España era tan rica que el propio Humboldt la alabo y llamo a la ciudad de México "la ciudad de los palacios", ya quitemos ese estigma estúpido victimista y falso de que fuimos colonias, NO NUNCA FUIMOS COLONIAS

  • @Counteris16
    @Counteris16 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Spain enters WW1 and gets nothing? The Ottomans enter, barely do anything and get Cyprus? Suuure. You'd think Spain would at least be awarded Gibraltar for helping in WW1. This was the only part that seemed ignored on your part RH.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Spain got Cameroon and Namibia. I agree that I missed that Spain could have gotten Gibraltar, so my bad

    • @cesarcastillo7872
      @cesarcastillo7872 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why would Britain give up one of its most important military/naval bases in all of its history. The fact that they still hold on to it to this day should tell you something of its importance.

    • @joaquinmorales2955
      @joaquinmorales2955 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@cesarcastillo7872to not have a hostile power as this spanish empire?

    • @cesarcastillo7872
      @cesarcastillo7872 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joaquinmorales2955 we have already established by this very video that they won't be hostile as they are allies. Now if they want to become hostile after the war, that is different but regardless, Britain would not give up Gibraltar. They would rather antagonize the Spanish and fight a war in the future then give it up even if WW2 is some kind of alliance of Britain vs Spain and their allies they would rather fight a war. That is how important Gibraltar is they would not give it up without a fight.

  • @Nuaheal
    @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Aranda's plan to create a Hispanic commonwealth before 1800 would be more realistic

  • @Sweden-Empire_xd
    @Sweden-Empire_xd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Fun fact: I make vid what if spainish Empire never fell like you, but my version Spain, joins the Central Powers

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh damn, good job! I assume it could happen with a different monarch that is pro-German. This makes it really interesting

    • @IndoSlovenian-Animations
      @IndoSlovenian-Animations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@rewriting-historySpain did have a Hohenzollern King before the Franco-Prussian War however France forced the Hohenzallen king to back down and be replaced

    • @enriquevisiedo2750
      @enriquevisiedo2750 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      El rey de España tiene el título de emperador de Roma, por curiosidad miren los títulos que a heredado ya en desuso

  • @JoboGamezzz
    @JoboGamezzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Spain already took over the independent Dominican Republic in our time line so it would probably end up under Spain in this line to

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good point, this is really positive

    • @JoboGamezzz
      @JoboGamezzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-history you make good videos and I like the folic you sometimes do with showing the coins

  • @germancat429
    @germancat429 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Best video yet especially because I love Spain, Hope you get to 10k subs soon

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Glad you liked it! After about a week I will hit 10,000!

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Can't wait to see which house Will be the ruling one! Really hoping for the Trastamaras. But if not the Habsburgs are also good

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      You will be really surprised, can't wait to see if you will like it, when it releases tomorrow

    • @danielsantiagourtado3430
      @danielsantiagourtado3430 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rewriting-history yep

  • @CouscousKhan
    @CouscousKhan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Since Spain still had a massive empire, wouldn't they have gained more colonies in africa? If yes wouldn't it alter WW1 more, especially with the treaty at the end of the war??

    • @aaronbelhandi4289
      @aaronbelhandi4289 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      In addition to if Spain were in the triple entente, since the king of Spain also has the title of king of Jerusalem, if they defeated the Ottomans in the subsequent peace treaty, Spain would surely claim the territories of current Israel and Palestine under a protectorate. of Jerusalem or a captaincy general of Jerusalem. Not to mention that Spain made attempts to conquer Cambodia and Brunei so possibly these were replicated and came to fruition. Furthermore, Spain would surely remain the main world power, but one of the clearest things is that Morocco would surely be a completely Spanish protectorate, not like in our reality, which was divided between Spain and France, it would have a greater presence in the Pacific, surely forming a Viceroyalty of Indonesia (it should be noted that this would not be composed of all of Indonesia but the Philippines, the island of Brunei and surrounding islands in addition to its Pacific islands) this viceroyalty can also have the name of Viceroyalty of the Philippines, Brunei or the East Indies, Surely it would be given more possessions in the distribution of Africa, possibly predominating the aforementioned Morocco, a larger region for Spanish Guinea in the Gulf of Guinea, surely Tunisia due to Spanish attempts in the past during the beginnings of its empire, possibly some concessions. In East Africa, the most likely small size or the island of Madagascar to have an interconnection between its American, European, African and Asian territories. The relationship between Spain and France would not be entirely positive, mainly because France has a territory known as Perpignan or Roussillon that previously belonged to Spain and also having Napoleon third in power, assuming what happens as in our reality, that relationship would not be positive at all. less in the short-medium term and it would be more pro-Prussian in the Franco-Prussian war due to the fact that Spain has territorial claims against France, in addition to the fact that France would not be important as in our reality it is surely between the third and fourth world powers. Spain's greatest enemy at this point would be the British Empire since in our reality it encouraged the independence rebellions and that tells us that they would try it in this other one but failing in the fact in addition to the fact that then it would be more difficult for the British to consolidate their power starting with a great disadvantage in resources with the Spanish Empire, it is most likely that industrialization could occur in the British Empire but Spain would take little time to catch up so possibly the British Empire would be much less important or powerful in this reality. Parallel, remaining as the second world power, remaining as the rival of Spain as a step in our reality between the French and the British until the arrival of the Germans, now I could not tell you if this, in the case of this reality, would calm the Spanish-British rivalry or inflame it more by putting the Spaniards on the German side I think that it is 50% yes, 50% no, that would be very variable political frameworks due to the already historical and existing triple rivalry between the Spanish, British and French empires, something that I am clear about is that the British would have control of India and they would be given quite a few concessions in Africa but surely not as many as in our reality. Another thing that would change are the opium wars in which Spain would surely be more involved than it was in our reality because it would be beneficial to have the Chinese market open, with the Philippines as the main trading point in the East. Another change would be the opening of Japan. abroad, since the Americans did not have much control of the Pacific, this imposition of the USA towards Japan to open itself to the world would surely not have been given, although it is most likely that another nation would have done so, possibly the British Empire, the French Empire or Spain itself, but There is also the possibility that this did not happen and Japan did not have the rapid industrialization it had and the Japanese empire was not formed and finally it is the annexation of Hawaii to the USA. It is most likely that they would remain independent like the Hawaiian Kingdom or they would be annexed. as protectorate by the British Empire or the Spanish Empire. Now around the First World War and consequently the Second and the Russian Revolution, things would not be chlorine as they could be due to what has already been mentioned in the existence and possibilities of Spain's relations with both Germany, the British Empire, France, Austria. Hungary, Italy... From my point of view these would be the most likely scenarios if the Spanish Empire did not collapse.

    • @CouscousKhan
      @CouscousKhan หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aaronbelhandi4289 that’s a lot of consequences huh
      Now I feel like this video deservs a sequel (or remake).

    • @aaronbelhandi4289
      @aaronbelhandi4289 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CouscousKhan The thing is that I am Spanish and since I was little I have liked history but especially studying Hispanic history, their geopolitical relationships in the past and how their empire behaved. The fall of the Spanish empire, although we do not usually think about it, is a very important event because with its fall it gave way to the splendor of other nations such as France, the United Kingdom and the United States, in addition to the fact that the Western world would have another point of view for that matter. say it Hispanic or Latin unlike our reality which is more Anglo-Saxon because the previous world power was the British Empire and the current one is the United States. And I'm sorry I said something is written wrong, it's just that I don't know much English and the translator helped me a little XD.

    • @EadwineHerendil
      @EadwineHerendil หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe is for the tratado de tordesillas Africa was for Portugal and America, except Brazil for Spain, saludo desde España 🇪🇦🇵🇹🇬🇧

    • @aaronbelhandi4289
      @aaronbelhandi4289 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EadwineHerendil que alegría encontrar otro español. Pero bajo mi punto de vista para esa época el tratado de Tordesillas no seria muy tomado en cuenta como paso con los intentos españoles de conquistar Camboya o la expansión de los territorios brasileños durante periodo portugués que se saltaban el tratado y más teniendo encuentra como fue el reparto de África en Berlín

  • @myhonestreaction6217
    @myhonestreaction6217 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No fascism and no communism what a world to live in

  • @Austria_started_two_world_wars
    @Austria_started_two_world_wars 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think this is definitely my favorite video that you have made!

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here! Many people really liked this one!

    • @Austria_started_two_world_wars
      @Austria_started_two_world_wars 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rewriting-history just realized this is your hundreth video, keep up the good work man!

  • @blazingblizzard-6894
    @blazingblizzard-6894 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The only thing in the entire scenario which I’m still confused about is why didn’t Romania join WWI in this timeline? They joined irl when it was like the worst time, so when Austria and Germany are getting toasted they don’t?

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think I overlooked that, so I could have added that

  • @kygigni
    @kygigni 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I have two questions
    Why didn't Spain participate in the initial scramble of africa?
    Why did Germany have to give up Memelland after the Lithuanian uprising in Russia despite not really being a part of this conflict?
    I give it a 7/10 in realism, it was an enjoyable video.

    • @unnamedshadow1866
      @unnamedshadow1866 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were already in decline by the 1800's. They were an irrelevant power.
      They spent too much time, money and manpower fighting dumb religious wars.
      They got a lot of land in Europe due to inheritance.
      But their Religious Intolerance, basically made them lose it all.
      Had they not been intolerant religious zealots and tried to enforce trade policies that only benefited the crow, the Dutch would have never revolted.
      They didn't revolt against Burgundy for almost 250 years. But the moment the Spanish inherited Burgundy it all went to hell, because they tried to force religion and trade policy on the Dutch.
      That War triggered the whole Religious Wars that would go on for almost 100 years.

  • @guccigucsi8491
    @guccigucsi8491 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    really good video, dont stop making these

  • @Nickthedog2011
    @Nickthedog2011 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is so good!

  • @soundfxsar9300
    @soundfxsar9300 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This vid it's a piece of art. Im very thankfull for putting the work by learning my country's history. Cuality content 👌🏻

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    LET'S GO! Love your content 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

  • @StuffAboutHistory
    @StuffAboutHistory 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good video, keep it up!

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I will, so soon I will upload more videos like that

  • @IndoSlovenian-Animations
    @IndoSlovenian-Animations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hey Rewriting remember me from the last live stream? I was the one asking for a Carlist revolution success scenario and you did say you were gonna mention it in the stream and oh you surely did in this vid

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Damn right. I'm a man of my word, you should remember that

    • @IndoSlovenian-Animations
      @IndoSlovenian-Animations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rewriting-history Oh ya I got a good idea its What if China was a Central Power and IK WW1 probally wouldnt still be won by the Central Powers but im interested to see a Larger Chinese front as Japan would have an actual front and im interested how this will affect Russia, France, The Brits, and Thailand as all these were states in Asia

    • @arriba_teruel
      @arriba_teruel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-historyyou could ask me on carlist ideals for getting an idea on carlist ideals. I'm a carlist myself.

  • @falconia4071
    @falconia4071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video as always! It's a bit funny because some weeks ago I started writing a scenario but it begins after the Spanish succession war

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha nice! I'm glad you liked the video!

  • @ZeNpps
    @ZeNpps 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dang why did we get the worst timeline.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I disagree, most people really liked it

  • @DonPedroman
    @DonPedroman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Spanish myself, and with quite a bit of knowledge about our history, this video sadly comes from a false premise, Fernando VII swearing the constitution wouldnt have solved anything, all american territories outside of Cuba, Puerto Rico and Peru (a true royalist bastion that didnt rebel, but was conquered by Bolívar and San Martín) developed independence ambitions that were irreconciable, coupled with high levels of republicanism stemming from the US and the French revolution, the actual measures to mantain the empire in the Americas would had to ve taken before, there are two possibilities, the Aranda Memorial, wich stated that basically out of the continental american territories we should have created three Kingdoms of the same dinasty that were basically independent but cooperating with us economically and geopolitically; or another approach that was to cut power from the Vicerois (the delegates sent by the King to be supreme authority, this system also was used in like Italy, Aragon and so on at various times) and let the nobles, cleregy and third estate of the american territories have their own cortes (this was somewhat problematic due to the Bourbonic centralism, but could have actually have been done under Carlos IV that was a bit more leanient due to him not being too smart) also, the more rebellious territories were New Granada and Río de la Plata, why ? Because their Vicerroyalities were newer (and New Granada was actually abolished during some decades in the mid 1700s) and less well structured, so that gave rise to the unchecked influence of local authorities, also they had less priviliges inside of the complicated political and economic system, also affected by the trade reforms of Carlos III that were detrimental to american trade.
    Also the Philippines were actually given autonomy, but some months after the peace with the rebels was signed, the war against the US started and they returned to the rebellion, and actually they fought the americans for like 4 years more when they conquered the islands.

  • @mrhappy8185
    @mrhappy8185 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This was one of your best scenarios so far! I love the realism you putted to this, because Spain is still powerful, but they don't become the undisputed hegemon of the world that many imagine if the spanish empire survived. This is a 10 in realism.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I really appreciate it! People agree it's one of my most realistic videos, so this is a step in the right direction!

    • @The-Army-Snake
      @The-Army-Snake 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You’re insane lmao. There just an isn’t a realistic way for Spain to hold on to those colonies for as long as they did with such little problem. Spain certainly wouldn’t develop that well either as these colonies are what led to their stagnation as it gave them unlimited resources and therefore made industrialization unviable as it was easier to just make money on plantations. This scenario turns Spain into a super powerful state with zero issues when in reality it’d remain a backwards and overextended empire.

    • @Ulti47
      @Ulti47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@The-Army-SnakeI think it’s implied that they handle things differently in this timeline

    • @AnahuacMex
      @AnahuacMex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@The-Army-SnakeThe plantations were only the economic engine of the Caribbean, and even in the Caribbean they were not the entire production, you do not have even the slightest knowledge of the Spanish empire, And "unlimited" resources, that's absurd

    • @The-Army-Snake
      @The-Army-Snake 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnahuacMex Bro American silver Litterally inflated the Spanish economy to the point of collapse. The wealth extraction that the colonies were entirely set up around ruined Spains ability to develop properly. There’s a reason why the Spanish colonies failed when they broke free, because they quite literally were never set up for long term success and were just made for as much short term profit as humanly imaginable.

  • @Rex_-fh3qj
    @Rex_-fh3qj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Love your content so entertaining suggestion( what if everything went right for greater Romania)

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for the idea! I can do all endings for Romania soon, so stay tuned on that one!

  • @CarribeanVibes
    @CarribeanVibes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro I love your videos

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate that! Glad you enjoy them

  • @MidnightSpaceLauncher
    @MidnightSpaceLauncher 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your maps look amazing

  • @js_munchies
    @js_munchies 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk what you use to make your maps but they're BEAUTIFUL

  • @PanamaMapper
    @PanamaMapper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, I began seeing yoru videos a month ago and their are excellent, a very good explanation, a voice that is not robotic/ai generated and a lot of realism! 9/10 of realism, it was great and it makes a lot of sense that if these changes would have been made, spain wouldn't collapse or atleast would remain it's empire. As a latin american, I can say that the first rebellions were only to gain more autonomy within Spain (during 1810's) but after Spain denied that, and they poorly managed the war, the independentist ideas surged.

    • @enriquevisiedo2750
      @enriquevisiedo2750 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      En realidad todo empezó en la invasión napoleónica los novohispanos no aceptaron a José bonaparte como rey de España

  • @Yashveergurjar4513
    @Yashveergurjar4513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the video i wanted 😊👍

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm glad you want that, hope you liked it!

  • @uhh...1651
    @uhh...1651 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Will be really interesting to see it!
    Also I have scenario idea from the same sphere: 'What if Japan was colonised?' The story had shown that Japan could've been colonised by Portugal, but it failed miserably. Also y theoretically come up with something else.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I want to make this scenario, so expect that soon!

    • @uhh...1651
      @uhh...1651 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-history I can't wait to see it! It'd be quite interesting to see how much possibilities of Japan being colonised will be there.

  • @TheSerbNationalist
    @TheSerbNationalist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this looks very good

  • @canariaballoficial
    @canariaballoficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ty for ur videos, greetings from spain

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching! Greetings from Bulgaria, love Spain!

    • @canariaballoficial
      @canariaballoficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-history Love bulgaria!!

  • @arriba_teruel
    @arriba_teruel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no. the independence wars were because of local elites wanting more power against peninsular spain, and they were backed by the british who wanted those lands for themselves, in fact argentina was part of the unofficial british empire.

  • @Cskyll
    @Cskyll หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Rewriting i love this concept and idea and the historical facts seeing spains options i give it a 9 on the realism scale

  • @frankdieter9907
    @frankdieter9907 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd say it's a 7 or an 8 on realism, because some things were just tricky and random but one other thing, which is the landtaking from Germany after the lost war, is quite different to my first expectation

  • @mohamedrafik2237
    @mohamedrafik2237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the video deserves a 6-7/10 on the realism meter

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is still really good, appreciate that!

  • @MCLegend13
    @MCLegend13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This might just be The best timeline I’ve seen yet.
    Thanks to Spains commonwealth, Britain forms the Imperial Federation. and France, Russia Italy and maybe even Portugal keeps Brazil by Turning into a Commonwealth or Federation too.
    Only one mistake the British weren’t selling them a Cruiser but rather a Dreadnaught Battleship that was supposed to enter the Ottoman fleet but with the outbreak of war became HMS Agincourt

  • @Moyoutuber
    @Moyoutuber 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    all of the stuff you said doesnt sound too unrealistic but i think th history goes far that we cant really predict it so im going to rate it a decent 7/10

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is real good score for me

  • @geography_europe
    @geography_europe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can agree that this is an interesting concept seeing how Spain could interfere in foreign affairs.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you liked the idea, hope you liked the video too!

  • @JustJ_KK
    @JustJ_KK 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can’t wait to watch it when I’m free sorry I couldn’t watch it live

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fine, comment later and let me know if you liked it!

  • @kakalidutta1104
    @kakalidutta1104 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This feels very realistic. 8/10

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great, I'm really improving! This is good news for the community!

  • @KameroonEmperor
    @KameroonEmperor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like this video, thought very optimistic to say the least. I don't think they would've been able to keep as much of their empire, like Argentina. Also love your take on Carlos, definetly can see how he could become like a Napoleon III type figure but for Spain
    A+ for originality but C- for realism, ain't no way they're cool with the US
    You should do a part two with a more realistic take I'd love to see that

    • @Nuaheal
      @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they had neutralized Argentina around 1810 there would be no territorial losses, The Mexican War of Independence was neutralized for the first 3 most violent years, after that they would just have to wait

    • @Nuaheal
      @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I love the part where Peru asks for independence when Peru in real life was the only viceroyalty that wanted to remain in the Spanish empire for almost the entirety of 1810-1825

  • @guilhermeguerra2006
    @guilhermeguerra2006 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, you need to do a what if D. Sebastião from Portugal didn't dissapear in morroco, I think this has potencial to make a cool scenario.

  • @Elverdaderopablo
    @Elverdaderopablo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I gave a 9 in realism. Great video i loved it!

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Appreciate that! Really glad you liked it!

  • @RustyPotato32
    @RustyPotato32 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Suggestion: What If Poland Lithuania Never Got partitioned? Basically in this world Austria And maybe Prussia protect Poland with especially Austria getting a Habsburg Candidate to become leader and in return of the alliance Austria Would Give Up The Polish majority of Galicia (Not Ukrainian Though) and with this I would see that Russia has minor expansion into the Baltics and Ukraine (So Like Just A little Bit Weaker Poland Than Before The Partitions) With this I would say Either during the Austro Prussian Wars Russia invades Poland While Austria's distracted leaving Poland To Fall In Russian Hands (most likely most territories become a puppet government) Or a later Hungarian Uprising in Austria Russia invades and a compromise comes with the borders from the 3rd partition.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seems like a great idea, I can do that in the future, as now I don't have enough knowledge on that topic!

  • @Gamer-is6ew
    @Gamer-is6ew 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing!

  • @user-qq6vu2jw7e
    @user-qq6vu2jw7e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So recently I wondered about one hypothetical alt-history scenario:
    What if Belgium had mountainous terrain?

  • @mikelgo4046
    @mikelgo4046 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a basque, this video was just awesome, I loved it

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really glad to hear that from you! Appreciate ut

  • @hardanddryjojo5449
    @hardanddryjojo5449 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Video absolutely amazing bro but please do a what if japan became a superpower video

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the future I will inevitably do it!

  • @itapi697
    @itapi697 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d give this a 10 for realism because I think what Spain would do this to continue to secure its position as a global power

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really glad that you liked it!

  • @mqdboy9278
    @mqdboy9278 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alright, so there are some mistakes that I have to fix (sorry but I literally study Spanish history). So It doesn't really matter if you call the Viceroyalties colonies or not, the Spanish Empire wasn't really a "traditional state" as it was called "the Spanish Monarchy" the Viceroyalties were part of the Crown so they already had a large degree of autonomy. The wars of independence were just a ploy of the creole elites to take power (since the Bourbons started to tax heavily on the elites), most of the people living there and the natives supported the Crown but since the peninsula was demolished by the French and British invasions it didn't have the economic power to rearm the military (plus most of the wealth was in America), also during the wars of independence the British sent troops to help the rebels, but they also looted the royal haciendas (where all the gold and silver was storaged) and they also destroyed the proto-industry that Spain already had. The rest is pretty much legit (if we count it's alternate history), the Constitution of 1812 would have been enough to keep the Viceroyalties loyalty so yeah, good job.

    • @mqdboy9278
      @mqdboy9278 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, Spain would have probably recovered economically way faster if the Viceroyalties didn't get their independence and there wasn't political instability. Spain (by this I mean the entire empire) would have probably become the second global power after Britain (since it had a massive quantity of resources).

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "All you had to do was to give your country-sized Viceroyalties parliament representation, CJ!"

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hahhaha nice reference, I love that!

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rewriting-history :)

  • @playu99
    @playu99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spain had netherlands, i didnt see in the map

    • @danielguerrero894
      @danielguerrero894 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Era propiedad del rey de España,no del reino español.

  • @racism.gaming
    @racism.gaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Spanish Empire not collapsing at all is like a 3/10 or 2 but ignoring the crazy premise, your approach was like a 7/10 with the details of how it might survive and the effects. Good job!

  • @LoanShark_totallyreal
    @LoanShark_totallyreal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful video! Btw slight correction, mehmed the fifth didn't rule the country, he was just a figurehead. Talaat pasha was the ruler

  • @thisisaname5589
    @thisisaname5589 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's no possible way Lincoln would've allowed Spain to keep Florida.

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Depends, only if the civil war gets real bad

    • @Nuaheal
      @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​I don't think Spain cares about Florida, it would look for other benefits

  • @m.a.n4134
    @m.a.n4134 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    one of if not the best video you've made yet, good narration and a good balance between realism and not making spain collapse, 10 out of 10!

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate that so much! This is such an accomplishment for me!

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the realism meter, I rate it a 7-8/10. While, as expressed in the video, we assumed some things that are not guaranteed like an earlier end to institutionalized racism in America ending under an extended Lincoln, the overall outcome is pretty reasonable all things considered. Nice job! We need a HOI4 mod like Pax Britannica on this now.

  • @Manu-ld4xc
    @Manu-ld4xc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video!! The only thing that i think is missing is the scramble of africa as i think this spain would get more and ww1 peace treaty as i think spain would want some compensation as for example gibraltar, but still very good

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you! I missed this aspect and I regret it

  • @celdur4635
    @celdur4635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Spain had a more powerful navy RL than the USA until 1880's or around then. So imagine if they kept their empire .

    • @Galletas-my3sv
      @Galletas-my3sv หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the war of 1898 it was stronger, corruption was what caused them to lose property.

  • @jaypeedesuyo662
    @jaypeedesuyo662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ending we could have had if King Ferdinand VI wasn't such a stubborn man and have not resisted the constitutional monarchy.
    From the Philippines. 🇵🇭 Viva España! 🇪🇸

  • @rogeliovaldez6594
    @rogeliovaldez6594 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing i didn't get was why spain would willingly give land to the US and the US, Florida, since it's so geographically stategic, maybe louisiana. The adam onis treaty was a one and done deal bc it formerly set the borders and prevented US expansion its why they didn't renew a version of this with Mexico irl. Great video tho keep up the good work

  • @berni_7161
    @berni_7161 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent video, But I think that Spain would have gotten more land in Africa in the Berlin Conference, since it would be a more powerful nation and would still maintain its fleet that it lost against the USA ❤🇪🇸

  • @Nuaheal
    @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The viceroyalties were not colonies, in addition to the fact that you did not include the general captaincy of Chile within the viceroyalty of Peru, Chile was from Peru, If you do not include it, you should not illuminate the general captaincy of Caracas in the viceroyalty of Granada because it was autonomous from the viceroyalty.

  • @geethukottukappallil
    @geethukottukappallil 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you britain forms the imperial federation even though you mentioned it in this video i want a full video about it

  • @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
    @saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All good, but you lost me at the great war (ww1) suddenly everyone joins the entente

  • @Captain_Griff
    @Captain_Griff 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

  • @IyaMiri_ne_Sero-Kizuru
    @IyaMiri_ne_Sero-Kizuru 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Por dios, la patria, y el rey!!!
    Oriamendi, a carlist song.
    Did you know the richest province and the first one to have a railway in spain was Cuba before 98'?

  • @cristiuup2101
    @cristiuup2101 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why did Ukraine get Bessarabia in the end?

  • @jimryan5513
    @jimryan5513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd give it a 7-to-8; the assumption that Lincoln would go for a third term seems a stretch, although continued Republican control for that term seems likely.
    The one big flaw is not taking into account the rise of industrial wealth redistribution. Out of curiosity, what would be the position of your "Nuevo Imperio Español" in terms of business interests coming to the fore? If these companies are allowed the same ability to wield influence as they were in the US and Britain, there might be decisions made where Spanish business entities pushed the Empire into taking actions that would knock the scenario off target. If that's addressed at some point (i.e., more worker considerations taken into account more quickly than they had been in America and the UK), you'd still be on track with this.
    Otherwise, this was pretty good.

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Slowly but surely turned into "Pax Hispanica - An Imperial Timeline."

  • @user-kk3bi9rx6x
    @user-kk3bi9rx6x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't see how Serbia would just agree with giving away Macedonia to Bulgaria, and you didn't even give a good reason for it to happen. Also there is no way a war with the US could be prevented, Manifest Destiny was huge back then. 4/10 in realism

  • @MagyarorszagGovernment
    @MagyarorszagGovernment 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like this :)

  • @franciscojavierdelatorreba3554
    @franciscojavierdelatorreba3554 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    18:31 i mean uf the apanish know to control themselfs it could be a 7 or 8/10
    But would they controll themself that we doubt

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still a good score, this is among the best

  • @alphapollete7733
    @alphapollete7733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video, but wouldn't spain have received more colonies in the Berlin Congress due to having a more stable and capable army?

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree, this is an aspect I completely missed

  • @oooshafiqooo
    @oooshafiqooo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:19, Germany also would have 100 million plus (with colonies ofc)

    • @oooshafiqooo
      @oooshafiqooo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tough this is 10/10

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Germany lost their colonies after they lost the war, so it doesn't count

    • @oooshafiqooo
      @oooshafiqooo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-history oh, if they dont have colonies, then id say ~100 million (a bit buffed than in OTL because the East)

  • @eboniaco
    @eboniaco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    During the 15th, 16th, and early 17th centuries, Spain was the hegemonic world power. Neither France nor England dared to cough at him. Until the battle of Rocroi.
    And if Portugal had not become independent, Brazil would now speak Spanish, not Portuguese.

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if Crassus conquered Persia alongside Publius gaining the cognomen "Parthicus" for their family? This would make a third sphere in the civil war, and I know many things what Crassus planned was impossible and yes Carrhae was impossible but there didn't have to be a Carrhae because Armenia offered Crassus help which means Crassus could have attacked from the same route Trajan did.
    Crassus already had more money than Caesar and Pompey and the region he would have conquered would have put both Caesar and Pompey to shame in both the riches and the fame that would come from being the new Alexander, something both Caesar and Pompey would take as a major loss making Crassus possibly even more powerful than them on many ways. Also learning as he conquers Parthia would bring eastern tactics to the Romans earlier.

  • @Cesarhiguera664
    @Cesarhiguera664 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The viceroyalty of New Spain didn't want a constitutional monarchy. The "independence" movement started as an uprising against the Napoleonic represantatives, thats what father Miguel Hidalgo meant by "death to bad government". Bad government as in the revolutionary and democratic ideals of the French Revolution and Napoleonic Code. In fact the uprising had mostly died down by 1814 when the Spanish Constitution was repealed, but it picked back up in 1820 when it was reinstated and this time it was backed by the Mexican-Spanish elites and former generals in the Royalist army like Agustin de Iturbide and Lopez de Santa Ana. They were willing to make Ferdinand of Spain the Emperor of Mexico, similar to how Franz Josef would later be Emperor of Austria and King of Hungary, but the major sticking point was that Mexico should remain an absolute Monarchy. However since Ferdinand took to long to reply, Agustin was temporarily appointed Emperor, and by the time the Spanish constitution was repealed in 1823 and Ferdinand was finally willing to take action the Mexican monarchy collapsed and became a republic.

  • @user-ey6nf1xo7l
    @user-ey6nf1xo7l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    idea : what if the polynesian confederation plan by king kalakaua happened ?

  • @FredFish99
    @FredFish99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ​​it ia 2:40 am rn for me why am i awake

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope this is really worth it for you!

    • @FredFish99
      @FredFish99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-history it was

  • @ronanmahaffey2996
    @ronanmahaffey2996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7.33/10 for realism

  • @josipaugustan9747
    @josipaugustan9747 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can u do a video what if Croatia gained its indenpendence in 1840

  • @Donvasqueze
    @Donvasqueze หลายเดือนก่อน

    8/10, In WW1 Spain would probably get Gibraltar as a reward from the UK, and i think that Croatia would get indipendance and that Vojvodina would have been given to Serbia.

  • @Alfredo12
    @Alfredo12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that the subject of Japan was not touched on in the video, since the Japanese empire, regardless of whether it entered World War I or not, would still have expansionist desires in East Asia and would still see the Western colonies as their target to take, which probably if there is World War II. Japan will bring both Spain and the United States into it.

    • @KarolusTemplareV
      @KarolusTemplareV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it wasn't forced to open to foreigners the japanese empire might not exist even.

  • @josemaricuestadominguez4992
    @josemaricuestadominguez4992 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Como dijo Wellington en 1806 "la unica forma de hacernos con el territorio español de america es arrancandolos de la corona española en forma de Repúblicas"

  • @fox_fire7555
    @fox_fire7555 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You ignored the fact that simon bolivar existed

  • @user-jl6qk5rv8g
    @user-jl6qk5rv8g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Rewriting History can you make a video where the British create Isreal in 1920?

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can do a short in the future

    • @user-jl6qk5rv8g
      @user-jl6qk5rv8g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rewriting-history thank you!

  • @nachocross9729
    @nachocross9729 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Viva la Hispanidad desde Argentina!

  • @Nuaheal
    @Nuaheal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The video should start with Spain never ceding Louisiana to France around 1800s, Or that Spain never lets Napoleon's army enter the peninsula

  • @Dutch8255
    @Dutch8255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Days 1 asking @Rewriting History to make a video for saving the Habsburg empire

    • @rewriting-history
      @rewriting-history  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video they just survived tho

  • @ErFatalNiko
    @ErFatalNiko 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I give a 8 to realism because I think Romania would join ww1 to reclaim Transilvania or Hungary would have revelled before the end of the war to Austrians, but still a fantastic video 🤝

  • @al-ex8276
    @al-ex8276 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why wouldn't romania join the ww1? to get transilvania

  • @mouthballgaming616
    @mouthballgaming616 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a suggestion. What if the first Bulgarian empire took Constantinople?