Rotor dynamically Perfect Wheels: Hambini Reams MAGENE EXAR DB508 Ultra

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
  • Quite unexpectedly, these wheels blitzed the rotor dynamic tests and easily had better numbers than anything else I've tested so far. Mechanically, they are very impressive. There has been a spate of wheels coming in from the far east that are basically beta tested on the streets of Northern Europe but these aren't it. This is a very polished product and the company behind it are by no means a small outfit.
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ความคิดเห็น • 261

  • @pigeonpoo1823
    @pigeonpoo1823 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    There's a special place in hell for the companies' employees pushing hookless

    • @universe-juice
      @universe-juice ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I have a giant revolt advance 0. Has hookless rims. They ride great but im always waiting for them to fail. Just having this in my mind messes up my rides. For that reason alone, i do NOT recommend hookless, evan on gravel.

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It's also the fucking bike shops that need a reaming for pushing it

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's about as sane as a parachute manufacturer removing the reserve release because you'd hardly use it.

    • @aveedub7403
      @aveedub7403 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've got a Giant tcr disc pro, with hookless rims, I crap myself when I take these wheels out, cornering etc. In case they pop off rim! Swooped with a pristine set of Fulcrum hooked lower rim depth with tpu tubes! I feel much more confident again!

    • @Reanimator999
      @Reanimator999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. Hookless means safety is not a major concern for companies who pushes it.

  • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
    @MrLuigi-oi7gm ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Totally agree with the recommendation of a good quality tire combined with a TPU tube. My new bike came with mid-level Continental tires and "regular" butyl tubes. I replaced them with Continental GP5000 tires and RideNow TPU tubes. I saved a total of 200 grams simply due to exchanging the butyl tubes with the TPU tubes. I saved additional grams by switching to the GP5000s. I immediately noticed an improved ride quality (smoother). I also immediately noticed an improved ability to accelerate due to the decreased moment of inertia of the wheels. As all you engineers and physicists know, the moment of inertia of a innertube is essentially given by I=MR². Since the tube is at the outermost radius of the wheel, reducing its mass gives you a "big bang for the buck" in terms of reduced moment of inertia and increased acceleration.

  • @biamarconchi
    @biamarconchi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you mentioned how using tpu inner tubes is just fantastic. using them on a road and gravel bike. no issues, no nonsense.

    • @adamgoodman3422
      @adamgoodman3422 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to hear. Aborted tubeless

  • @bunyaminesmer1580
    @bunyaminesmer1580 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Suddenly it all makes sense. The BB’s, NASA, Formula 1, bearing knowledge hahaha

  • @hitlerdamno1
    @hitlerdamno1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is Gold. I didn’t know that tax avoidance is illegal in UK.

  • @glennoc8585
    @glennoc8585 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd rather run a marathon in flip flops than faff with hookless tubeless. I've used gatorskinz they are tough but i found a bit hard. Be careful with TPU tubes folks they are easy to pierce so put a small amount pressure in the tube before fitting. If you can fit a tyre without levers then even better. I had a Magene p325 crankset was good apart from the battery life was wanting and the charging points I found fiddly. I have their computer for backup and it's solid for the little money. I think the future for the good generic brands is getting the supply chain sorted to the point that you can buy in your country not ex China.

  • @TomRucero
    @TomRucero ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dat linus tech tips part lol

    • @CodSlap
      @CodSlap ปีที่แล้ว

      I was almost ready to e-mail LTT that Hambini and LTT need to do a collab and hook Hambini up with the slickest solidworks machine ever. Considering the kind of relationship they already have with - for example - D-brand, it would be right up their alley. 😃

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Linus would auction Hambini bottom bracket without Hambini even knowing it.

    • @CodSlap
      @CodSlap ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tweed0929 Savage! 🤣

    • @TomRucero
      @TomRucero ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tweed0929 😆😆😆

    • @suminshizzles6951
      @suminshizzles6951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is the epitome of commercialized youtube clips. Both he and Mr. Beast are business. I avoid both. If the clip is not organic in nature i dont bother. If the clip starts out with a 1 min intro, i dont bother. If the clip starts out with begging for clicks, likes and subs then money, i dont bother. If the clip has baked in ads to avoid the ad blockers i dont bother.

  • @user-km4wd9jd9d
    @user-km4wd9jd9d 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't believe the tea spilled on hambini's true identity! 😮

  • @basedgodstrugglin
    @basedgodstrugglin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That pause at 21:43 is golden

  • @tweed0929
    @tweed0929 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    My hairdresser doesn't like it without vibration.

    • @thebelly925
      @thebelly925 ปีที่แล้ว

      My vibration prefers a hairdresser.

    • @Thecyclist84
      @Thecyclist84 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only thing keeping me from getting a wheelset like this is that I love the silence of my Onyx hubs! Thanks for the review.

  • @briz1965
    @briz1965 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I just looked up the price. Remember when Brian from Langdale Lighweights built me a set of Campy Record hubs drilled for flat spokes on 18mm Assos rims for £250. They were so good I loaned them out. Like the review if people want to repack per se, but a lot of wasted money on weight vs. quality. Cheers bud.

  • @Fedit8
    @Fedit8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🤯 Just when we thought we knew the real hambini, this info hits like a bombshell!

  • @BURAK_SARIKAYA3413
    @BURAK_SARIKAYA3413 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It looks legit to me. All the photos match the map locations.

  • @bljordan1055
    @bljordan1055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely brilliant. I was redirected to your website after I typed in reaming.

  • @Tantewillieja
    @Tantewillieja ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The inner tubes look exactly the same as the Ride Now ones. Those are widely available, cheap and amazing. Haven't had a flat in a long time.

    • @d_mac3233
      @d_mac3233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're surely not putting your lack of punctures down to tpu inner tubes

    • @paulwebster4499
      @paulwebster4499 ปีที่แล้ว

      my ride on tube leaked from the value join after about 500 miles shit for 16gbp

    • @peterwillson1355
      @peterwillson1355 ปีที่แล้ว

      Butyl tubes for me. Havn't had a flat for at least three thousand miles ...I might try tpu when they're no.longer the price of a decent tyre.

  • @silverburn55
    @silverburn55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quiet freewheel and rotor perfection?
    SOLD!

    • @bostjan-sj
      @bostjan-sj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      OMG yes, please. Loud hubs/wheels are just as annoying as loud motorcycles! :)

  • @DP-PhD
    @DP-PhD ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I totally agree on using TPU tubes, totally sold on them. The correct brand (I use RidNow) are also great with rim brake set ups. I researched reaming of p-hub and lost my breakfast haha. Sort of reminded me of fitting a pressfit ' 'bottom bracket'!

    • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
      @SamuelBlackMetalRider ปีที่แล้ว +5

      RideNow 19g are way too fragile. On paper it’s WOW, but in reality 3/4 died before/after 1st ride for me. 24g bit more reliable but there are hit & miss. 1/2 didn’t work. I have ordered dozens of them over the last few months from different sellers.

    • @DP-PhD
      @DP-PhD ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SamuelBlackMetalRider I didn't even know they did a 19g tube. That is far too light for rim brake. The 36g tubes I use are rim brake rated and no issues or punctures even in 2 years regular use, on wonderful Welsh roads!

    • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
      @SamuelBlackMetalRider ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DP-PhD lucky you. I guess yeah the 36g are stronger. I even use 50g Gravel / MTB TPU tubes on my Gravel bike and they’re great. 24g are RideNow but some other cheaper brands are offering 28g a tiny bit stronger, but some hit & miss. But these cost like $4 basically the same price as a 100g butyl tube now!!

    • @P4P5
      @P4P5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SamuelBlackMetalRider Been usin 36g ones for months. Absolutely no issues. I should add i use GP5000 tires

  • @JanneRasanen2
    @JanneRasanen2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kudos Hambini for pronouncing Nokia correctly like us Finns do. I have been to the town of Nokia.

  • @danihe8528
    @danihe8528 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These wheels look amazing, thanks for the review. I only miss info about how they works on crosswinds in front of their comptence...

  • @ronfeldman4386
    @ronfeldman4386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hambini, You make me laugh while giving me excellent information about every bicycle manufacturer.
    Cheers mate

  • @CodSlap
    @CodSlap ปีที่แล้ว +11

    ”The child-friendly reaming channel” - pls send help, the BBC blurb team has hijacked Hambini’s teleprompter. 😃

  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have there wheels. And they are some of the best wheels I own. TPU tubes and 23mm internal makes a huge difference.

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sure does big boy

    • @jeffreypoh
      @jeffreypoh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      waiting for ur comparison and review on the wheel

    • @Stoffendous
      @Stoffendous 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Show me your beaver!@@Hambini

  • @alexla9554
    @alexla9554 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should tell your audience more about the Fe / C diagram. That's worth a whole 30 minute show😊

  • @TheChindoboi
    @TheChindoboi 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a Magene power meter 👌🏻 Magene rear bike radar 👌🏻 now it’s time to get Magene wheelset

  • @fabianmolyneux2308
    @fabianmolyneux2308 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for going to all this work. It's really helpful. My thankful gratitude to yu

  • @mcveyj
    @mcveyj ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review! Really appreciate the thoroughness of breaking down the wheel into its individual components like the Stren carbon spokes and Koyo bearings.

  • @TaichoCyclist
    @TaichoCyclist ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As the 500th liked viewer, I hope the quality and customer service for their wheels will hold up better than their crappy electronics division ( I went through certain harrowing smart trainer and power meter warranty episodes with Magene).

    • @hinrichaue7199
      @hinrichaue7199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Had a heart rate monitor from magene which didn't work properly...

  • @davidsteel4139
    @davidsteel4139 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have their taillight with radar and heart rate monitor both excellent products and good value for money,

  • @jeremymitchell8470
    @jeremymitchell8470 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hooked is the only way for a big guy like me to go. From all my research, hookless only benefits the manufacturers due to simplified production processes.

  • @osmanbaloglu7088
    @osmanbaloglu7088 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can picture his face once he sees this. Can wait for the reaction.

  • @RV-jq5pb
    @RV-jq5pb ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hambini you are hilarious honest and above all else, so fucking generous with your time, energy, focus and attention. You are a rare human being and I so appreciate everything you do. If I had a million dollars, I wouldnt be a millionaire because Id be sending you a fuckton of cash to say thanks.

  • @davidwilson6226
    @davidwilson6226 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had Zipp 808s. The scariest wheels I ever raced on, wobbly at speed, very wobbly.

  • @Mike0
    @Mike0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had 2 Tubolito and 3 RideNow go in 2 months. Decent tyre pressure, 3 leaked from the valve, i have heard the same from 2 other people about TPU, leaky valves

    • @hinrichaue7199
      @hinrichaue7199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've had a leaky TPU tube too, but 2 out of 5 really is bad luck.

  • @dcv9460
    @dcv9460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent review, as always 😎👍

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Three cheers for dynamically balanced wheels+tires. And good chain line.

  • @protonjicari5990
    @protonjicari5990 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the Linus Tech Tips reference 😂😂

  • @Magnus_E
    @Magnus_E ปีที่แล้ว

    My man, I hope you consider exploring the e-bike world. It's the first time in my life I consider getting one...

  • @hakanonay8322
    @hakanonay8322 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The moment of silence. Rip Hambini?

  • @Muhammed-ez7ol
    @Muhammed-ez7ol 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this page real? If yes we all’ve been conned. Well played.

  • @bayramtuncer8015
    @bayramtuncer8015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I need a popcorn to read all this.

  • @Ih8GoogleandApple
    @Ih8GoogleandApple ปีที่แล้ว

    Those metrics for tension and out of balance looks amazing. Definitely live up to their billing!

  • @kwisin1337
    @kwisin1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a call out to LTT! Love it. The PeN iS working well this time...

  • @EdMontego
    @EdMontego ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In my Cycling Club you must have Zipp Wheels and Maap Kit to be accepted, its Crazy!

    • @jonnythelegs2597
      @jonnythelegs2597 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fortunately the air you're pushing your way through isn't snobby, it couldn't give a shit what stickers are on your bike or its components, if it works, it works.

    • @johnlesoudeur3653
      @johnlesoudeur3653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same in the golf club lol

    • @davidsteel4139
      @davidsteel4139 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're in the wrong cycling club

    • @jonnythelegs2597
      @jonnythelegs2597 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidsteel4139 I definitely second that, you don't need people like that in your life, they're no good to anyone but themselves.

    • @charlesmansplaining
      @charlesmansplaining ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The way to respond and take action against clubs like these are to form a large group of your own and crash their ride events. That will piss them off.

  • @richo7751
    @richo7751 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dream of throwing something like this on my bike as typically top out around 75kph. Trouble being i run a Duratec race tandem as a blind stoker. If only i could grab and go with off the shelf products

  • @jonathanz9889
    @jonathanz9889 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I own a pair of Exar's DB58pros, unfortunately had to send them in for warranty as there's this super loud sound when first engaging in the hub.
    It seems that many Chinese brands are facing similar issues with hubs after 1 year of use as seen in chinese forums.

    • @xuemouchen7419
      @xuemouchen7419 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pro was using the pawl system instead of star rachet.

  • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
    @MrLuigi-oi7gm ปีที่แล้ว

    HOOKED!!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @oatmealeverymorning
    @oatmealeverymorning ปีที่แล้ว

    The suit!!!! Your logo could mimic redtube lol

  • @AhmetGs-wv9wi
    @AhmetGs-wv9wi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saving this for later. I hope it won’t vanish too fast.

  • @mopedvieh
    @mopedvieh ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a miserable f**king materials engineer, I can confidently say that your explanation of the martensite phase transformation was Zipp, I mean shi*. 😅

  • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
    @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tubeless isn't about weight savings, it is about sealing punctures. With tubeless you can use Conti 5000 and still not get punctures because they will be sealed. No need for those heavy sluggish Gatorskinz.

  • @BikePappy
    @BikePappy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On the subject of wheel/tire balance: having some experience balancing automotive tires, on the larger off-road tire/rim combinations it can be impossible to balance the set. In this case we go with the large transport truck solution and use glass beads. It’s some king of voodoo magic but it works once the wheels start spinning. So, would the sealant in a tubeless setup have a similar effect to the glass beads and distribute around the tire in a way to offset any imbalance?

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. One is viscous and adherent, the other dry and able to seek new positioning and compliance to balance.

  • @CoreQ
    @CoreQ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I skipped all the way to the last powerpoint.
    I skipped all the goodies to find your conlusion. so it is yes we can buy it. ok good. I found what i'm here for

  • @LouieBaLLz
    @LouieBaLLz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hambini, if you had to choose one wheel set, would it be Princeton Carbonworks , Lun HYPER, or the MAGENE EXAR? I'm looking for new wheels and now dont know which ones to get.

  • @kroojinder
    @kroojinder ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The only thing you need to know about hookless is what @PeakTorque has mentioned: if hookless were the shit, all these fairly sophisticated Xiamen-based rim manufacturers would be swarming over it, yet... they are not, and that's really telling. Anecdotally, I've a set of Enve 3.4ARs with Michelin Pro TLR 32s and they feel... interesting in hard cornering or descents. You get a really good sense of what you can trust when doing certain descents, and taking those wheels down Gibraltar road in Santa Barbara is not something I'd wish to repeat, yet that route has felt totally fine on anything else, from Hed C2s to Bora WTOs.

  • @criticalmassyyj
    @criticalmassyyj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    balancing is very interesting to me, did you build your own system or are you using a commercial balancer?

  • @sandy_knight
    @sandy_knight ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed the apostrophe in "The pens working". Other than that, great vid 👍

  • @mrnobody9821
    @mrnobody9821 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good job I have insomnia or I would not have been first

  • @patricehenri8172
    @patricehenri8172 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Speaking of hookless wheels. I had the brand new Envee 4.5 on my brand new bike for one day. I took the bike from the dealer, took few shots of the new bike beside my old, and stored the bike in the garage. Coming from regular hooked + tube wheel (100psi), I put the maximum advertised pressure in both tires 80 psi. I noticed the rear wheel seems to lose its air and was making weird noise, as if the spokes where singing. I added some more air later in the evening back to 80psi. The rear wheel was still signing, ding ding ding. Eventually later at night I heard a big explosion in the garage. The rear wheel had completely exploded from the inside out. The earlier noise was not spokes singing but rather the carbon rim delaminating. I since changed them for roval clx II, a tubeless ready hooked rim with 130psi max tube pressure, and 110psi max tubeless psi. Never again hookless rim.
    I can't attached picture here but I can email them to you if you want them. Very scary.

    • @MrHallTV
      @MrHallTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Max psi for those wheels is in the 70s though. Now, it should not blow at 10psi over and in fact should be good to almost double in theory but I’m also out on hookless. I don’t see what it gets me and I’m annoyed that makers like zipp and enve have gone exclusively to it.

    • @brasso9393
      @brasso9393 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Max for hookless is 73psi and to be on the safe side better use 28mm width tires. Its pretty dangerous because some manufacturers specced the bike with hookless wheel which many are not aware of the max psi which could result in catastrophic blowout 😢

    • @patricehenri8172
      @patricehenri8172 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zipp max hookless is 73. Envee max hookless is 80. Check the specs if you don't believe me. Still, there should be a safety margin. If it's writen max psi 80, it should have been tested for 90 or 95. Plus, they where sitting in my garage brand new at 21C. This is unacceptable safety margin.

    • @brasso9393
      @brasso9393 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patricehenri8172 😲 did you contacted Enve about that?

  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Hambini - For the aerodynamic chart, is more power absorption good or bad? Thanks

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's bad. The number wants to be as small as possible

  • @eymenaykan337
    @eymenaykan337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hambini’s gone rogue 😅 I guess finally you got reamed

  • @irfancanaras9337
    @irfancanaras9337 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Rotating equipment engineer at prax. Just wow…

  • @rolandmg1
    @rolandmg1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those wheels are wider than the ones on my MTB, I can’t understand why people want to ride these with 32mm tyres on road bikes.
    25mm are so comfortable and fast and light, I’ve been out in 23’s this morning on a classic bike and they felt great.
    You might as well put drop handlebars on an MTB.
    Great work as always though and I’ve always enjoyed your videos.

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm using 28c at the moment and I'm liking the ride have to say After years on 25c. I do have 23c tubulars on my classic and it rides very nice too. As I've gone for wider rims recently(28mm Od).

    • @adrianc6534
      @adrianc6534 ปีที่แล้ว

      so, what are the downsides to 28-32 mm wheels other than the fact that YOU dont like them? every time i hear some old fart spew this nonsense, it is never back by facts, just the usual "25mm is good enough for me so why isnt it good enough for everyone else?" garbage.

    • @aitorbleda8267
      @aitorbleda8267 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You probably don't live in the uk. 23s is not a good idea with the roads we have in most of the country.

    • @rolandmg1
      @rolandmg1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aitorbleda8267 I do live in the UK and ride everyday all year round.
      I’ve been back on 25mm tubulars all year and they feel so good after decades on clinchers.
      I have used 28’s in the winter but they just feel slow and make he bike feel dead and that’s with 5000’s and latex tubes.
      When I put 25’s back on the bike feels alive and responsive.

  • @Alieren10.
    @Alieren10. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fucking brilliant!!!! An oil refinery employee 🤣🤣🤣

  • @ChiTownBrownie89
    @ChiTownBrownie89 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn hambini even calling out LTT lol

  • @bulentagtas070
    @bulentagtas070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who would've thought? 🤔 DoubleLife?

  • @universe-juice
    @universe-juice ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid. Your hairdresser has been neglecting your hair. Probably busy elsewhere 🤣

  • @thrawed
    @thrawed ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fyi there are muuuuuch better high puncture resistant tyres nowadays, like Pirelli's Cinturato Velo. Gatorskins have the worst possible wet grip you'll ever see in a tyre, which isn't especially good for cycling in Britain.

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. When someone recommends Gatorskins to newbies on forums, it's like the worst kind of advice a man can give to someone with no experience. Gatorskins don't grip on wet. The same goes for wallet-friendly Continental Ultra Sport and Ultra Race. Very nice ride quality, but zero grip on wet.

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are called pirelli ditchfinders for a reason. I'll stick with the continental

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@HambiniTry the Tufo duo comtura 28c it's my tyre of choice now.

    • @philipk4475
      @philipk4475 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cinturato are very nice tires indeed. Roll beautifully, very supple considering their puncture resistance

    • @yuKHKHKHKH
      @yuKHKHKHKH ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hambini whats the problem? t. 8000km on cunturato velos no ditches nor punctures

  • @danielotero4484
    @danielotero4484 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Hambini. But like you said on your video they Magene knew they were sending these wheels for you to review. I ordered a pair and they NOT OUT THE BOX BALANCE and the bearing used by Magene are takino hybrid bearing that spin like SHIT. I would return them ASAP

  • @rollingnome
    @rollingnome ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hambs. Would you ever allow Sram to cut & blow your hair?

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah. I'm even more of a shill than David Arthur

    • @rollingnome
      @rollingnome ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hambini Sir David, to you.

  • @dan2304
    @dan2304 ปีที่แล้ว

    32 tyres are fine with lower rolloing resistence on a 23 mm ID rim.

  • @chimps4gimps
    @chimps4gimps 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    #Legend 😂 Best intro ever!

  • @peterwillson1355
    @peterwillson1355 ปีที่แล้ว

    All my rims were made in France, Belgium, Germany or Switzerland.
    Thank you.

  • @dan2304
    @dan2304 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also spoked 2x drive side 1 radial the other which compensates for the weekness caused by dished wheels.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak ปีที่แล้ว

      The torque from braking is more than from pedaling so it's dumb to do 2:1 on disc rear wheels.

    • @dan2304
      @dan2304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trentvlak You obviously do not understand the dynamics of a spoked wheel. The tension on the spokes about 120 kg is needed so that the varying tension on the spokes due to rolling, pedaling and braking is small compared to constant spoke tension, otherwise spokes fatigue and break. With dished wheels 2:1 spoking allows both sides of the wheel to have similar spoke tensions making the wheel more reliable. With one piece hubs the torque is transferred to all the tangentially laced spokes. Ideally spoked bicycle wheels would not be dished, and for heavy 100 kg plus riders I build frames with the chain stays offset to remove the dish in the rear wheel. Bikes for riders up to 150 kg have no wheel/spoke issues. Twisted cranks, bend pedal spindles, bend seat posts but no wheel problems.

    • @trentvlak
      @trentvlak ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dan2304 No, I do understand. Mavic and Zipp tried radial spokes on the drive side and it didn't work out for them. Doing it on the braking side is double the mistake. Try to be more humble in the future.

    • @dan2304
      @dan2304 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trentvlak As a mechanical engineer and 40 years frame and wheel building I am being humble, trying to increase understanding of something I am passionate about. They were not the only ones and radial lacing on the drive side does not address the problem of spoke tension on a dished rear wheel. 1:1 spoke lacing on a dished 11 speed rear hub produces spokes on the drive side some 2-2.5 times the tension as on the non-drive side. As the rim limits tension for spokes at about 120 kg some go to 140 kg that means the non-drive spokes are too lose and are unreliable due to changes in tension causing fatigue and fracture. With 2:1 lacing with 2 tangential lace drive side spokes and 1 either tangential or radial on the non-drive side produces spokes of roughly even tension on both sides of the wheel. With a 3 mm asymmetric rim and 2:1 lacing as described a dished rear wheel with the same spoke tension on both sides of the wheel can be obtained. The front wheel due to the low fraction of the weight load that it carries and wider flange spacing is much more tolerant but with disc brakes must have at least one side tangential lacing.

  • @Velozrocks
    @Velozrocks ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Can you do campagnolo wheels?

  • @stephaneb.2307
    @stephaneb.2307 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone else test these wheels on the road? I have them and experience significant wind sensitivity at the front. At high speed, it seems to even tend to wobble. Now the problem is that my bike is also brand new so I can’t compare with another wheelset on that bike. But on my old bike, Trek Emonda, i had 50 wheels as well and never experienced such behavior. I guess next step is to borrow another wheelset and compare.

  • @ds6914
    @ds6914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gatorskins on your fancy deep rims. Tut tut.

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm practical and not a badge snob

    • @ds6914
      @ds6914 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hambini will nobody think of the gators

  • @canerses1568
    @canerses1568 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holy shit man. Working at oil refinery?

  • @JK-zx3go
    @JK-zx3go ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TH-cam subtitles: "Hello I'm beanie fans"

  • @h.p.734
    @h.p.734 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I find your Eurobike video? You mentioned I could see the magene booth in the video, but I can't find it

  • @philipk4475
    @philipk4475 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the spokes sufficiently captured at the hub? I don't want a single broken spoke leading to rapid detensioning of the other spokes and subsequent wheel disassembly

  • @Twisty1024
    @Twisty1024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have Gatorskins changed since I last used them or is their traction still rubbish?

  • @jigglypuff4227
    @jigglypuff4227 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahahaha linus tech tips front xD great!

  • @huunguyen7669
    @huunguyen7669 ปีที่แล้ว

    There're some reviews on Taobao/Tmall that Magene exar rims too hard, fragile and easy to broken. Don't know if they were fixed or not.

  • @RB-xv4si
    @RB-xv4si ปีที่แล้ว

    I really don’t even consider a performance wheelset without a solid rim bed and hidden nipps these days.

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. ปีที่แล้ว

    What's their weight limit? 🤔
    It had been nice to hear the hub. 😉

  • @glacialpace5655
    @glacialpace5655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This may be covered already but what size tyre did you run, and what size was the tyre when you did your aero testing? I'm looking for something that I can run a 28c GP5000 TR on and would like the tyre not to be bigger than the rim if possible (I understand that is a bad idea from and aero prespective)
    Thank you sir.

  • @dp1568
    @dp1568 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello there,
    I have a 105 compact 50/34 chain ring that needs replacing. It is a 10 speed gear and I was wondering if I could replace the 10speed chain rings for the new version 105 11speed chain rings?
    Thank you for your help

  • @carlos4731
    @carlos4731 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will these wheels fit a Giant Propel Advance 2? Im considering either 25c or 28c tubeless tires. What measurements should I take to find out if these wheels will fit my bike?

  • @avoirdupois1
    @avoirdupois1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to start posting on one of the other platforms XD ?

  • @rubioedwin
    @rubioedwin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hambini, EXAR or Lun hyperwheels 2023? I am looking for a wheel-set rim brake.

  • @user-yy7hl2vv1b
    @user-yy7hl2vv1b ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Hambini! Thank you for your Videos. I have a question, before i buy a Wheelset from China.
    1. I buy Rim Brake Wheelset
    2. I wanna between 50mm and 65mm Rim Deapth
    3. My Budget is 1200$
    4. I wanna under 1500g Wheelset.
    Could you recommend a Wheelsets?
    Thank you in Advance and best regards

  • @essjayaitch
    @essjayaitch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've not measured the weight distribution of a tyre so maybe it doesn't matter so much, but shouldn't the wheel be balanced with the tyre installed for ultimate pedantry?

    • @jonnythelegs2597
      @jonnythelegs2597 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah you gotta take into account the valve weight which is around 5 ior 6 grams more if you've got really deep section rims plus extenders, sounds like fuch all but it doesn't feel like fuch all at 45mph tho.

    • @jonnythelegs2597
      @jonnythelegs2597 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbf if the wheel itself is well balanced its a lot easier to counter weight it with some accuracy. Flexy fridge magnets are you friend for this.

  • @richardhutchings1980
    @richardhutchings1980 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any issues with the way the spokes are attached to the hubs? They look exposed?

    • @CodSlap
      @CodSlap ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a straight-pull system, and with those spoke tensions (assuming they’re maintained), they’re not coming out of there, even if it may look mighty strange. Personally, I’ve only built J-bend spoke wheels, but one downside / point of interest that I have for straight-pull systems like these is water retention and corrosion.
      We’re talking about different brands here, but since some of the spoke heads always rest on the hub ’flanges’ horizontally, they tend to retain water quite well, it sticking between the spoke heads and the flanges. I’ve seen pics of some pretty bad-looking corrosion that’s started to develop on some wheels over time. Those were on the MTB-side of things, though, which means worse riding conditions, more mud and muck, as well as (often) less maintenance. I’d also be interested in real-world user experiences of where that leads to (besides the infirmary 😃) and most of all, how quickly.
      Compared with the J-bend, the straight-pull is a relatively new system, so I assume there’s not that much consumer-level data out there yet. Realistically, though, if you’re buying this very wheelset, I don’t think you’re going to be riding too much in the rain, at least intentionally, and even if you are, I’d assume (at least) that the flanges get dried with compressed air straight after, so this kind of corrosion damage should be a non-issue.
      As a side note, outside of competition-level wheelsets like these where weight reduction is a true merit and where you need a system to attach carbon spokes, I’m not a fan of the straight-pull system. It’s often marketed as eliminating the ’weak point’ of J-bend spokes, which is the elbow of the spoke. If you know anything about steel, however, you know to stress-relieve the steel spokes after you build a J-bend wheel, which brings the inherent stress of the elbow well below its yield. This removes the ’weak point’ and you’ll have a happy wheel that will likely outlast you.

    • @tweed0929
      @tweed0929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CodSlap I prefer traditional hubs for J-bend spokes. The reason is: tangential spoke patterns. With J-bend hubs you can do radial, tangential 2-cross, 3-cross, 4-cross, crow foot and so on. You can choose. With straight pull hubs you are limited only by the spoke lacing pattern that was determined by manufacturer and if you lose a spoke, more often than not it is PITA to find the replacement spoke for your particular wheelset. Usually, rim-brake road bike wheelsets come with the front wheel laced radially. I don't like that. Not only you get overly stiff wheel, but also they look just ugly.
      Overall, J-bend is: user-friendly, corrosion free, choice-friendly, wallet-friendly. Straight pull just adds complications for no real benefit.

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've never seen a j bend Carbon spoke

    • @CodSlap
      @CodSlap ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tweed0929 Agreed. 👍 Straight-pull has its use cases, but at least for me personally (and probably for most of the Joe Averages out there), J-bend tends to be the way to go.
      That being said, I may just be a full luddite too when it comes to my wrenching. 😃 I worked in very IT-heavy fields before I retired, so now when it comes to simple machines like bicycles, I like them tried-and-true and relatively low-tech. It’s simple hardtails, steel frames, hydraulics and cables for me… 🤪

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tweed0929problem with a J bend is you have a point of wear as the spoke moves radially ever so slightly under compression. MTB moved to straight pull as spokes were known to break at the bend from stress cycling.

  • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
    @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is hookless on a bicycle bad? It is the standard in racing cars, motorbikes, regular cars, trucks. But not in bicycles for some reason? IMHO it is because some of the bicycle tyres are sloppy crap and the rim manufacturers don't want to mess around with upset customers. The hooked may be worse in every other way but it least it allows to use the tyres which have not been manufactured properly. Of course, I am only talking about modern road wheels (like the subject ones, which are wide and allow wide tyres and low pressures.)

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      70+ psi is still quite a high pressure, no car tire has a tire pressure that high.

    • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
      @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@supervhschannel4139 I have been using hookless bicycle road tyres on hookless rims for several years now without any issues. I would say that your rumours about the stiffness of my tyres and the bulk of my arms was greatly exaggerated. We could argue benefits but I have not observed any downsides during the last couple of years and couple thousand Kms.

    • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
      @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@supervhschannel4139 Hookless has some benefits (outlined above) and no downsides. The only benefit of hooked is the extra insurance for extra cautious people. But if in practice there are no blow offs, that extra insurance comes at the cost of losing the benefits of hookless. You mentioned limited choice of tyres, but my tyre of choice does work with hookless anyway and I selected it not based on that but just the value and quality. It is extremely popular as well (Schwalbe Pro One).

    • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
      @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @supervhschannel4139 I didn't mean to make any personal comments at all, but I guess you'd like to take it personally to find an easy way out of the conversation. That's ok, we need to get used to the unique snowflakes getting depressed and from people looking at them the wrong way.
      It's all about how you word it isn't it? You are not "being extra cautious" you are "enjoying piece of mind"... word games are very trendy these days as well...

    • @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding
      @Hard_Work_Is_Rewarding 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@supervhschannel4139I don't know why you keep bringing this subject of me not being able to say it in a face to face conversation. I have no issues with that at all.

  • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
    @SamuelBlackMetalRider ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gatorskin terribly slippery in the wet, a catastrophe really!! GP5000 4S if you want protection

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think anything comes close for puncture protection

    • @bengt_axle
      @bengt_axle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hambini You mean tyres or something else?

  • @X41N3
    @X41N3 ปีที่แล้ว

    LTT subscriber here lol

  • @nestorlcotto1763
    @nestorlcotto1763 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Which one you consider is better Hyper Ultra or Magene?

  • @lincolnlu9869
    @lincolnlu9869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ouch. Kicking Linus Tech Tips while they're down lol

  • @leslie7922
    @leslie7922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I came faster than the hairdresser

    • @Hambini
      @Hambini  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's impressive.