S&C Coaches React To Sprinter Mathias Hove Johansen - Norwegian Sprinter!
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Mathias is some athlete, love watching his stuff as it's rare to have elite sprinters doing these video blogs and showing how they train. When you consider Mathias is arguably not even elite as a sprinter, its amazing how strong he is at weighlifting, squatting, pressing, vertical jump etc. The top elite olympic final level sprinters have to be capable of insane numbers
Usain Bolt wasn't very gym strong. Christophe Lemaitre, the first white man under 10s, also had a pretty weak squat.
Nah a lot of the elite guys aren't incredibly gym strong. You don't have to be, it's about having short ground contact times. Which you don't really train from the traditional lifts
For the resisted sprints around 4:29, they are using a device called the Exer-Genie. One of the main variables with resisted sprints is the resistance itself. Using sleds, the resistance is harder at the beginning before the sled gains momentum, using bungees it's the opposite resistance curve. With the rope/friction device, you can provide a consistent resistance from the start. Pretty sure it was developed (or at least I first came across it) by Jonas Dodoo, who's an elite sprint coach who has some of the most informative seminars I've seen on TH-cam. At this point it sounds like I'm shilling but I promise I just think it's an interesting training tool from a smart coach.
Anyway, keep up the good work! Been following Mathias almost as long as I've been following the two of you and its cool to see those worlds collide.
Charlie Francis talked about the “isorbic exerciser” in his CFTS book, which is the same kind of device. I think friction based devices have been around a long time.
@@ATHLETE.X Awesome! Just downloaded it and it looks like the same design! Might pick up a used one and see how it feels. Looked like a cool tool but was cost prohibitive. Thanks for the heads up!
Great series, very informative. also it is entertaining to see what athletes do outside of the sports you are familiar with
Love it lads.
In the spirit of sprinters, could you please review Marcell Jacob's training. And specifically his wind reduced over speed training.
Thank you for the content!
Great show!!!!!! Mathias' workout looks like an incredible speed workout for running backs and receivers in football!!!!!! Mathias is a great sprinter, and his training has much to do with it!!!! I teach football players that they may never have the speed of NFL great Tyreek Hill, but with the right training they can run NFL receiver speed, run as good routes, and aquire ball catching skills like Hill!!!!
Mathias has been a norwegian national champion in weight lifting. Of course he is good at lifting 😉
In response to 8:35. I have had weighted/resisted sprints in my training as more of a technical tool for the initial 0-10/15m. The drive phase of sprinting requires a higher ground contact time to flight time ratio (2:1) with an ideal Projection angle forwards that gradually rises.
Some athletes may learn this "projection" more effectively with a loaded implement (me as an example) as it requires you stay on the ground longer and actively push while keeping a low heel recovery.
Yeah i think this is the key thing they're missing. They're speaking as though they are using the weighted sprints for 100 or 200m but they're simply overloading the first 15m or so so they have to produce force. And the thing about the selds is after the sled is moving the frictional forces don't increase much, its not quite what theyre making it out to be.
I differ with your opening comments here. Sprinting isn't any more dependent on genetics than the other athletics attributes you critique. You can't train someone who's not gifted to be a sub-10 sprinter, but you can certainly get closer and closer. 1 run a week definitively will not increase your ability in sprinting. However, consistent, correct training over time, will make you faster. Mathias himself has been dropping his PB's consistently for many years. And he will continue to do so throughout his prime. He seems on a legitimate arc toward a 20.2 200m dash (his primary event), which will place him in many Diamond League Finals. That's world class. When he started doing these vlogs he was at 21.5+ - that's extremely different than where he is today (20.68), and exponentially different than where he will be (20.2). So the measurement of improvement for sprinting is simply dramatically different.
Resistance sprints may help condition muscles involved in sprinting perform under heavier load it helps strengthen the muscles along posterior chain and benefits of resistance sprints are 8 to 12 weeks
These reaction videos are the best - love them - the little comments are so interesting about how you guys would tweak things. From ordering of exercises to shoe selection.
The mini hurdles or boxes are to improve front side mechanics. It’s rare a sprinter would be lifting the knees too high. The drill is called - wickets. Good breakdown 🤛
Been watching Mathias for a few months. Never clicked on a video so fast
Been waiting for this for months.
Love s&c reacts
I am now a masters (40+) athlete (sprints) and training (especially in the gym) has changed incredibly over the last 20 years (for me at least). I also have a background as an olympic lifter and would consider myself very proficient in it. I still do heavy front squats for injury prevention (I took them out for a pre season and ended up with patella tendonitis from too much fast short range work). My mainstays in the gym are quarter squats (barely even that) quite heavy (but not at the cost of too much speed), and FAST. Ankle pops, FAST, never weighted (the dorsiflexion jumps that Mathias does) and sometimes assisted with bands to train the CNS for fast GCT. The only weighted jumps I will do are quarter squat with lots of speed at the top which ends up in a jump (wish I had a keiser!) I will still warmup snatch because I love the movement, but that's all, nothing slow. The full range stuff I see as necessary for injury prevention and mobility (I am very flexible, background in gymnastics, so I don't stretch at all anymore, just mobility through exercise). Fast weighted step ups are good so long as patella's can handle them. Clean pulls from hang or drop hang (period depending), speed is king. Everything else is done in running training, ie. Plyometrics etc. Nothing beats the GCT of actual sprinting so no need to make it too complex with fancy exercises IMO. I agree with your "silly" comment about doing nothing but sprinting, but I think some weights are required for injury prevention (unfortunately, so we do the best we can in the gym by training at high velocity)
I do not do resisted sprints or starts. I don't believe in them. My weakness is top speed and I believe resistance in sprints would be of detriment to that. I believe that Korfist uses his 1080 ONLY for over speed.
Are loaded jumps (hex bar jumps) a good replacement for things like hang cleans or snatches for athletes who don't have as much time to learn the proper technique of olympic lifts? Say for a basketball or soccer player for example. Aren't we just looking at loading hip extension with a hex bar jump or a hang clean and one is a lot easier to teach than the other?
I really love this guy. Cool to see your review of what he's doing
It's VmaxPRO. The thing measuring velocity and power.
Love this series lads, keep it coming
I don't think there's a video, but please review Nils van der Poel's (Olympic speed skater) training program.
www.trailrunnermag.com/training/trail-tips-training/the-wildly-cool-training-approach-of-speed-skating-gold-medalist-nils-van-der-poel
Is this what you're talking about it?
@@sikastrength Would love this as well! And there's a translated video now. th-cam.com/video/HDTI4pbxdck/w-d-xo.html
As a sprinter myself, weighted sprints is used more for the mental cue aspect. It teaches you how to push, kind of like a slow motion replica of a movement for your body to learn without being "too slow" and completely shift away from a real sprint acceleration. Personal I've never done them and I'd say I'm a pretty fast starter.
For my sprint training we will use weighted sleds for very short distances like 10m and it's more for the first steps out the blocks when your body is more horizontal and you're pushing against the ground (drive phase) vs when you're more vertical and sprinting after the drive phase
About the mention about squats for sprinting, I’m no expert and only just returning to sprinting again implementing resistance training. I’m trying to see how keeping it mostly in the 80-85% range and leaving some reps in the tank and slowly increasing my estimated max overtime (don’t really see the point in testing it). Ideally I’d combine that with velocity based training but don’t have access to that
Jonathan Edwards was very good at Olympic lifting. His best clean was 150kg at 72-73kg BW (btw he was about 181cm), snatch was also 110kg+ and he front squatted 230kg. He was also very low volume and skipped loads of sessions and refused to train on Sundays or run any distance further than 100m. His 100m time would have been better than Johansen in this video as well.
He used to be regularly beat Linford Christie and Frankie Frederiks to 30m in training. His best 30m was 3.54s from a standing start 1 metre before the first Infra Red gate. Bare in mind no 100m WR holder has ever run the first 30m below 3.60 even after excluding their reaction time.
You used to be able to find some of his training logs online
@@tangrz yes
The clean is believable as he was a freaky jumper and I’ve seen a few track athletes with double bw power cleans! Front squat I’m 100% convinced would probs be to parallel at best and most likely above. Regards the the 30 time 1m fly in and normal starts are not comparable the conversion is about 0.3-0.5 so comparably bolt could most likely hit a 3.3x under these circumstances. Not discrediting him cause he’s a freak athlete either way!
@@camyjumps Not so sure on Bolt 3.3x. Bolt is 3.8x with RT. Edwards was 3.9x indoors when running 60m in training at around 6.9.
We know anecdotally as well that Edwards would regularly beat Linford Christie and Frankie Frederiks when he trained with them.
Edwards first 30m was truly world class. The stat that is questionable about him is about his top speed being 12.4ms in his WR jumps. It was in some paper and apparently Edwards himself thought the analysis was flawed
@@camyjumps actually I change my mind I reckon bolt could perhaps get to 3.39
Weighted sprints for me is all about training the acceleration phase of the sprint, training form.
Wish you would have placed the link for the original video somewhere. I always like watching the original first and then the reaction videos
Love this series, great stuff as per
This is awesome! Thanks guys!
Can you do a whole video on the subject of joint mobility? And how to expand your hip mobility so you can squat deeper and w/o "buttwink"? Very important topic, but I have never seen anyone cover it. Would like it to be from you guys.
Seated GM is probably best for this.
Does anyone know the optimal drugs protocol for someone to maximize their speed once training is optimal?
Let's say for an athlete who wasn't subject to testing so they could take whatever they wanted for as long as they wanted, what compounds would yield the best results. Would using things like THG be ideal or could you just stick to the mainstream compounds like test, tren, turinabol?
Y u need this?
Vmaxpro barbell unit about £300
Hi, re: what you said about Olympic lifts being helpful but only at a certain level of competency, could you get this effect from Kettlebell cleans, snatches and jerks if you focus on doing them with high velocity?
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I’ve found that with a very small chain dragging behind me I can “feel” my hips more. I think it’s because the ground contact time is slower. I then try to use the same technique and feel my hips more when sprinting unweighted. I’ve also used a heavy sled push to drop the shin and feel the hips extend over the lower leg. Any opinions on this or advice from coaches who read this would be appreciated.
Been waiting for this one
He’s elite by Norwegian Scandinavian European standards but pretty average in the USA and below etc world wide
Edit: but a damn good weightlifter for a sprinter
Exactly, would be interesing to see how strong the elite olympic final level 100/200m sprinters are at weighlifting. Mathias is incredibly impressive at it and like you said he's not at the elite olympic level yet. You'd assume the guys ahead of him are even stronger at weightlifting
@@declanosullivan8749 Some are as strong or stronger but honestly I don’t think there are many sprinters cleaning this kinda weight. Harry aa (10.0x sprinter) from the uk did a 171kg power clean which is the highest I know of for a sprinter. Most sprinter are more gifted reactively (elasticity) and neurologically.
@@camyjumps He’s a skill-full lifter alright. His ratios prove that, I think his biggest squat is 200kg and he’s getting great snatches and cleans with a lowish squat. Ben Johnson was doing 250kg x 6 and it wasn’t his limit, i don’t think Mathias is that strong, very very skilled yes
@@declanosullivan8749 He's strong for a sprinter. Mathias does reps of 170 atg squat? Ben Johnsons squat was wrapped and bouncing off a high box. Most 9.9-10.1 sprinters ive seen power clean 120-130 and barely squat.
Awesome stuff guys👍
Lads, physio had me doing these (12:13) against a thick resistance band and referred to them as tantrums for my hamstring tear recovery in its later stages
You say at the start of the video that probably the best way to train for sprinting is to sprint once every two weeks and then lie at home.
I always had a very light bodyweight relative to my height when I was growing up and was fast because of this
When I finished growing in height I was 70kg
I increased my weight to 95kg over the span of a few years by doing weight training
I then reduced my weight training volume significantly when I lost access to a gym in 2020 and my weight dropped to 85kg which I found easy to maintain. I mainly just do overhead pressing now to hold onto some upper body mass.
I started practicing sprinting in 2021 and when I am using a track I only train once per week because I feel strain on my claves and shins after each session which takes several days to go away and I don't want to cause an injury
If I train on grass I can train 2x per week.
My question is whether simply doing a routine of one track session per week with no significant weight training is actually enough to maximize your speed potential when you are sub elite level?
If I dropped my weight to 75kg and basically lost all of the muscle I gained over the years, would I then run faster or would it reduce the amount of force I could put into the ground which would reduce my speed?
Hey, I used to train 4 times a week on the track. 1 sprint specific, 2 longer sprints and 1 circuit/interval based session. Along side a long run day and weight session. I never used to have problems with calves like you describe.
However now I don’t run regularly and whenever I go for a track session (once every 2/3 months) my calves are destroyed for days! Could be just you need to push through it to get used to the weekly volume!
You may benefit from some direct lower leg works like calve raise and tibialis raise.
You have to slowly build up training capacity too. Not just doing a lot of volume that you can't handle in one day and doing nothing the whole week.
Excellent as usual guys, any chance of looking at a mountain / trail runner?
Hey lads, you mentioned that you could train reaction time for getting out of the blocks, what would that training look like? Great video as always!
We will try and get a reaction time training video done soon. It's mostly around specific practice. Similar to skill training. Low load, low volume
@@dfitz5384 Awesome, thanks! Looking forward to the video!
Love Mathias!
My understanding is recent science favors heavily weighted sled sprints. Even world class middle distance runners use them. Check out Clayton Murphy. He follows up with weighted sprints quite a bit.
@@HkFinn83 haha, fair enough…
Please do an episode that requires saying “pergola “ much more.
Can you do Will Ratelle pls?
Would jump rope be effective for training short ground contact time?
Yea, but you can’t do them for more longer than 30 seconds. Their a great warmup, but you’d need more plyometrics to increase stiffness
When are you going to do a react vid to the BloatLord himself Kyriakos Grizzly
Guys what do you think about genetics of su bington
At 11:40 h it is a kind of the “Bauer Übung” from Coach Valerie Bauer. Not as good as the original one.
He alternates legs on the jerks
Can you discuss assisted plyometrics more? I saw an IG video on a guy doing assisted jumps with a band like how Mateus did in the video but more exaggerated. I thought that it was bullshit tbh. I thought that by lowering your weight you would not increase speed enough to improve power output. He was talking about explosivity and not speed though so it might be different. Is there merit to doing assisted plyometrics like that?
Yes the assistance and added height u get kinda unlocks your nervous system and introduces it a stimuli u couldnt get on your own.
@@MrSpicabooo Has there been any good research on the topic or is it more anecdotal. I couldn't find anything good, whilst doing a quick search.
@@kebabrepubliken1 i think the dude from pjf performance puts his articles in his website or bio in videos ill try to find em
@@MrSpicabooo oh okey. I would appreciate it!
Next video on chimaev!!
React to some Olympic wrestlers.
I agree that being a world class athlete has to do with your genetic components, but that could be said for any physical prowess sport. Saying that you’re more likely to make yourself slower with speed training is misleading. You can definitely make yourself slower by doing sprinting and speed work wrong, but sprinting ability is about more than muscle fiber distribution. Matthias trains with an incredibly high volume of speed work and yet he has gotten faster over the years. Higher volume sprint work usually tends to correlate with a shift to fast oxidative-glycolitic fibers which I’m sure every athlete, even world class sprinters have had happen. As a matter of fact muscle biopsy performed on a world class hurdler showed a predominance of type 2a muscle fibers.
Could you react to Ryan Crouser's training. He has recently started uploading weight training videos to TH-cam and already has posted a lot on Instagram.
sprinter algorun
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GG first
Don't u want height
Regarding weighted sprints, you always say that you need to train at the speed you plan to perform at. Is that not the idea when using very light weights? He can still perform a sprint at the same cadence because the weight isn't too high, but the added resistance promotes extra power output at that cadence. Or should I just stop chatting shite and leave it to the experts?
Nothing going on with him. Must be injured.
The Experts in everything. These guys would critic a Neurosurgeon in how to remove a brain tumor.
Two Strength and Conditioning coaches, reviewing an athlete's Strength and Conditioning.
Not exactly brain surgery.
what is the sense of this stupid "react to videos"?
It is something the world doesn't need