Paul Pogba to Man City? | "I wouldn't go anywhere near him!" - Jamie Carragher in HEATED debate 😳
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Carragher is spot on, 6 years in this league and we are still having pointless discussions over Paul Pogba. Great talent but ultimately hasn't show any prolonged spell of consistency.
Yup if city want a player who shows up in 1 in 10 then they're welcome. As a United fan IDGAF where he ends up. Jaime is spot on with Pogba he killed the argument when compared with Steven Gerard, Gerard always gave his 100% Pogba never
@@Uncle_Samn gerrard just a poor man danny drinkwater 😢
@@Emre_Za Gerrard is a rather wealthy man but Danny should drinkwater tbh
A liverpool fan agreeing with a liverpool legend? i for one am shocked
@@Uncle_Samn if there’s one man for the job it’s Pep. He’ll simplify pogba’s game and get him working hard off the ball, so I think city can get a player out of Pogba I really do
Carra is right and Jamie/Micah are wrong. You dont add someone to your team on the off chance that they might play differently to the way they've played for the last 6 years in the league. Theres no need for City to do that.
This discussion is a perfect example of cultural differences that are built in to people underneath the skin. Northern European standards of working hard are completely different to elsewhere.
They need a GOAL scorer. Not a fashionista
united have failed pogo just as much as he's failed united.
Pogba will never be able to change the ingrained style of play he now has, he does NOT work at all, let alone work hard enough, it would be a mistake to put him in such a good side like City !
@@kevinm6749 I know only pay him£350,000 a week,spoilt rotten mollycoddled ,gives you one game in eight but it's United's fault,give me strength
"Pogba might have a point to prove at City" If he walks into arguably the best team in the world after 6 years of average performances at United why would he feel like he has to prove anything?
United is the worst team in the world. You forget that part. Pogba deserves to play alongside ballers, like in France. Not a bunch of B-level players.
He leads the best International Team on the planet. Sure he’s rubbish lol
@@ismaeladen2582 Where did I say he was rubbish? I said I can't see how he's going to be determined to prove a point by moving to a better team on probably even more money than 300k a week.
@@ismaeladen2582 this is a myth.
You kind of already said it mate. What other player who doesn't work hard enough still be wanted by Pep?
@@ismaeladen2582 Teams like City only want players who work hard and have discipline. Pep has too much self respect and respect for the fans to take someone like Pogba.
Carragher is spot on. He’s literally collected a cheque for 6 years. When has he ever had a consistent series of games where he’s been outstanding?
Lingard
Mata
Matic
Jones
Maguire
All they do is collect cheques
How long have you been watching United? I would just ask you to look at his 2018/2019 season before you go with your sentiment. He carried the team that season and was included in the PFA Team of the Year. Carragher knows that Pogba would make City untouchable with Pogba and Haaland. Arguing for the sake of arguing.
@@awakenthegreatnesswithin You forgot Lee Grant and Tom Heaton.
Quality + Hard Work = Consistency.
@@kizito8888 So you have to watch him for four years to see the best of him? If he can't motivate himself to play for Manchester United, then why would he be any different down the road?
As a blue I don’t want anything to do with him he doesn’t graft anywhere near as hard as the starting 11 we’ve already got, soon as things go south he disappears! Carragher spot on here
He wouldn't get played if he didn't work hard. Pep left Bernardo, Leroy, Mahrez and others out for not putting effort. Paul Pogba with effort is a great player, completely different for France.
Aw mate it's painful watching him at united.
Paper talk, nothing more. The media has punters absolutely hooked on this nonsense.
💯. as a city fan you’d be lying if you can’t see his quality but I’d hate for him to come and then all of the sudden the dressing room becomes fractured or whatever
He's still better than Rashford.
"I wouldn't go anywhere near him " -Carragher. As a Manchester United fan, this statement is massively underrated.
“I wouldn’t go anywhere near Manchester United”-any top player nowadays. As a fan of a random football club, this statement is massively underrated.
@@smallarmskepa4390 calm down lad...
Im not even ManU fan. Talent wise Pogba is top tier player but he has no class.
Micah Richards is a joke of a pundit, he’s like a 14 year old defending his best mate
@@donaldduck5553 Richards is the only pundit out of these 3 that burst onto the scene
For once I agree with Mr Carragher. Absolutely nailed it. Listening to Jamie Redknapp and Micah is like listening to the Chuckle Brothers. Redknapp "Pogba lives local it would be great for him" and Micah's " He will only have to run 10 yards in this Man City team" says it all. Bring in some proper analysts ffs!
Agree. Hes been running 10 yards with UTD for 5 years. He'll cost 30m a year in wages and addons. So a 3 year deal wud be nearly 100m. LOL. FREE TRANSFER.
Agreed. Those two are easily amongst the worst pundits out there. City won't go anywhere near him.
ahah so true. Never heard a worse analysis/comment/counter argument where someone says "he will be perfect because he will only have to run 10 yards here and there". Absolutely shocking
@@MWG-qv2hq city looking for a replacement for Fernandinho. Won't be Paul Pogba. He's poison. Toxic. Forget his ability.
@@Marjopolo302 I know, as I said, City wont go anywhere near him
As an LFC fan I'd love to see Pogba at City. He'd be such a big disruption and will drag them down.
Notice how only lfc fan say so🤣🤣🤣. We will win the ucl if he arrives with kdb halland and foden
LoL all these blind lfc fans that think everything is about them…talking like Pogba in the France team is the same pogba you see in man utd..different teams different consequences…
@@KingstonFortune Pogba works well in the France team because of, players like Kante for backing him, and mbappe to run for the ball whoever pogba kicks it up, Manchester untied don't have players like that, pogba can make a team shine, but he has to have those type of players around him
@@KingstonFortune Pogba brought the France national team out on strike! He's poison wherever he plays. It has nothing to do with his technical ability. His ego was too big for Mourinho FFS!
@@zidic3948 you didn't have to say Foden 😂😂😂
Carragher is spot on and I feel sorry for him having to explain such a simple point to these two muppets. And to the argument that “he will be desperate to prove a point” - will he be desperate to prove that? Or is he in his head the best midfielder in the world and he’s got absolutely nothing to prove to anyone? I’m more leaning towards the latter…
Must be infuriating to have these guys arguing against him lol. Any City supporter would be on Jamie’s side, Micah is a real stupid pundit sometimes.
If he was desperate to then he would have done it already
Carragher correct in this 💯 he basically agrees that Pogba is overrated
Carragher talking out his ass again
My thoughts exactly. Word for word. Was literally just about to say how I felt sorry for carragher. Not often I say that
Im a United fan and im absolutely buzzing that we're finally seeing the back of him.
Even better if he goes to a rival and poisons their dressing room instead of ours.
Carragher slams the door shut on this argument when he compared Pogba to Gerrard.
Gerrard was in an average Liverpool side for years and was world class every single season, no matter who his manager was.
"Even better if he goes to a rival and poisons their dressing room instead of ours".jose wanted him out for this reason,i believe man uniteds problems stem from this player in the dressing room and his toxic lazy attitude
Gerrard wasn’t world class every season, unless you’re a deluded Liverpool fan.
@@Cell2Dee was you dropped on your head as a child? Or are you just on the spectrum?
@@sticksandstones3277 no swearing, please!!!!!
@@Cell2Dee He was better than Paul Pogba has been in the Premier League every single season.
Pogba has earned the "stick" he's gotten at Man Utd. It hasn't been unfairly given.
Facts
He's an absolute disgrace deserves it all he even faked an injury the other week there soon as Liverpool went 1-0 up
if he played well, for example like casemiro, people would say it
Absolutely madness that Jamie said that pogba would add a lot to city.
What does pogba have that debruyne doesn't
Bad work ethic,laziness bones made from tissue, please take him
He said it was a ‘no brainer’, wtf 😂
im assuming you mean redknaap as there's two jamie's
This is almost 5 minutes of Redknapp and Richards explaining why they weren’t top Premier League players
They both had injury problems.
BINGO
@@007Fusiion head injuries' ????
@@firsteerr 💀
@@007Fusiion Marco van Basten retired before he was 30. Still a world class striker. Your career in football is what you make it.
Saying he adds a lot to the team just shows how clueless some of these pundits truly are.
Fact! A virus is always a virus
Yeah I agree but pep does like to have a wide tool box of a bench so I could definitely see him getting some use out of him
@@jackthompson6499 for the money eh will want he wouldn't be worth taking as a bench player
Totally agree!
Micah Richards is legit one of the worst pundits I have ever seen. He is right up there with Michael Owen. He is very biased towards city, never rational, cannot take criticism, he's too loud, and he just jokes around too much. His laugh used to be entertaining, but now I am just finding him increasingly annoying. I rarely find myself agreeing with anything he says either. I genuinely think he only got the punditry job due to wokeism as a diversity appointment. I can't see why else he would get hired on Sky Sports.
If you were an overrated, poor footballer who is also a poor pundit too, what the hell is that person doing on Sky Sports? Why not have Andy Carroll, Scott Sinclair or Aaron Lennon on next as a regular pundit!? That's the point I'm making. At least the likes of Carragher, Neville, Wright, Keane, Henry, Lineker, Souness, Shearer, Alex Scott etc were great players. Richards wasn't a great player so he has to be a great commentator then like Kamara, Savage, Redknapp etc, but Richards isn't either. Him and Owen are the two worst pundits.
He wouldn’t get anywhere near City’s team. He’d be a backwards step for them.
What quality does he have? Since he came back the only stand out performance I can think of was the brace against City four years ago.
He’s 29. He should be at the peak of his powers but all I see is a player on the decline.
Fergie got rid of him for a reason, we should have never taken him back.
The Fergie pointer was ABSOLUTELY spot on mate
Completely agree with Cara, Jamie’s “hasn’t he shown glimpses” says it all. Those city players are committed, work hard, track back, you see it in nearly every game, that’s why they are the best side in the league. They have to do that consistently, not have glimpses, they are work horses that also have technical ability, athleticism, good football brains. Pogba, just isn’t that type of player.
Over rated.only looks good when someone doing his donkey work around him.
Why any club would want him is beyond me.he just wants loads of wages and he hopes the clubs can cash in.on his commercial success. Would any club want someone who doesnt work hard for the team and doesnt graft.doesnt man mark a player..he just wants to be a luxury player.
@@paulm813 not just that he severely lacks intelligence and concentration on the pitch, he is constantly out of position and getting dispossessed in the midfield everytime he plays, same for France aswell! When scholes said he goes away with the fairies, he needs someone behind him talking to him ALL THE TIME!! That’s embarrassing for someone who is proclaimed to be “world class”
I dont often say this but i FULLY agree with Carragher here. Its also amazing to me how some people still get excited about Pogba. Like he would be a major signing. He has been awful and part of the pollution at Old Trafford. "Get the best out of yourself" Well said Carra
He is a good very good player .
the problem is the team.
Let him go to city you will see
the real Pogba
@@mimshack7278 we have had a few teams with him in it. He's one of the longest standing members of the club, also 4/5 different managers, we have played him in four different positions. That's nonsense, his attitude or the prem is too difficult for him. He gives the ball away something like 6 times a game. I don't dislike him necessarily but carragher is right here.
Ofcourse he's major signing
@@jonnyting71 he will change when playing in a decent team with a decent manager
@@mariolisa2832 no doubt
I am 100% with Jamie Carragher on this and find it incredible that the other two can't see he is spot on.
Pogba is nothing like a the type of player Pep wants in his teams. I cannot imagine there are many Man City fans who would want him.
Carra is pure cognitive dissonance. Praising the player 2:30 accepting that he could change 4:22 and then writing him off in the same 3:25 breath I cannot wait for Pogba to move to a UCL team and turn things around
We do not want a flop in our team
@@mediacenterman8583 How is that cognitive dissonance? You can accept that someone has talent, but if they don't work hard enough, then that talent is useless.
@@skgsinc1833 Nobody does, and Pogba owes Man United an apology, even if he isn't the only problem.
@@mediacenterman8583 Nonsense. He only accepts that Pogba could change in the sense that anyone has it in them to change, and nothing's impossible.
There's a difference though between thinking something is possible and actually believing there's a good chance of it happening.
I'm a United fan and this is one of the rare times when I agree with Jamie. United is rebuilding and doesn't want someone with that toxic attitude bringing the team down, and City have a title winning team where you have to work hard to make the team (and Pogba doesn't want to work for it).
Carra is spot on about it. And also shows why having football pundits who know their football is important. Waiting for 6 years for someone to prove their potential, there are lots of players like that, potential means nothing if you don't have the internal motivation to convert it.
Pogba is the most uncity/unguardiola like player I can think of. Pep’s philosophy is based around possession retention, players who are quick on the ball who receive a pass, take one or two touches and then release. Pogba is the opposite of that type of player. He gets the ball, takes abour 5 touches, tries to beat other players on the edge of his own box and loses it. He slows the game down far too much. Pogba isn’t suited to the premier league full stop, never mind city.
I agree with you, this is the reason why grealish isnt the same player as he was at villa.
Are you sure its pogba or man united that causes him to do that? Have you seen him in France, minimal touches and inch perfect passes
Pep didn't go for pogba for nothing. Most of this united players would succeed in city. The environment is different. United is full of weak non competent people
@@Nino_G97 Grealish playing better now lately.
@@ma466 he is indeed, but when he was at villa he had more touches of the ball and kind of just played more freely. City are a very tactical team if you know you know.
Carragher is spot on. I wish he'd left years ago and glad we will finally see the back of him even if he does join City. Ever since Raiola's comments which Pogba never commented on I've wanted him out. I don't care about his potential to have great performances but his potential to cause problems.
Pogba is almost 30 and people still talking about potential. He waste his potential.
Agreed, but shows how awful the club is ran that they didn't sell him last year, him and Lingard, Pogba spent his prime here and wasted it, most of the time he couldn't be bothered
Juventus was the only club that suited his style, and made him worth all that money, all players are different, not all can adjust to a way of playing, Di Maria is another example, at United.
Hope he goes good riddance
Carragher has always spoken facts about Pogba. Bad idea for any team to sign him.
As a Liverpool fan, you'd think Jamie would want City to sign him
As much as he hates United theirs a mutual respect for them they've earned their stripes unlike city who've literally won the lottery. No class what so ever
City**
that's why he said "you can have him"
Six years in the prem, he's been under Jose, Ole and Ralf I really can't see him changing so much he'd get in the City team.
And the 'he plays well for France' argument is getting old, he plays far more club football and for me this is a more accurate depiction of him.
“It’s not about working hard” sums up Micah’s career lol straight out the horses mouth 🤣
Yeah that was really odd coming from him. You'd think if he watched City games he would know everything successful about the club is BECAUSE all the players work tirelessly. Where would they be if they didn't work hard? 🤣
He's clearly wanting Pogba at City to wind up United fans, but compared to Tevez this one is a willing gift from the red half.
As a Villa fan I endorse this comment 👍
Jack G works hard? They just paid 100m for him!
They were winding him up aswell you see how flustered he was getting,,worst commenter in the world ,,,
Micah is already very fortunate he's even in this position as a pundit. Does anyone really care about his opinion
As a Man Utd fan, I'm so so much impressed by Carragher's wisdom. He knows so much not just about his team but others. Pogba cannot play competitive football in the premier league, regardless of Pep or Klopp. He could move to a league where there's less competition and more tolerance for his lackadaisical attitude towards football.
That’s why he was so comfortable in Italy where players tend to have more time to move the ball around compared to the constant pressure seen in La Liga and the Prem (not denying some teams do press just most don’t)
@@thatonebirtyd5058 Look what Tammy and Giroud are doing in Serie A. It shows you how much leagues are different.
Bro where did you go to school
@@_trust9994 indeed it does but to be fair Giroud was an underrated hero and Tammy is still young and deserved more time to bulk up and solidify his own style but ye you can see it’s been easier on them compared to the Prem
That’s why Carragher and Neville are respected from most football fans, they say it as it is and they are honest. I’m gutted Micah doesn’t have even half the brain Carragher does with his City connections, how can he think it would be a good idea?? Sad day for football and City if he does cross over 😔
People seem to think City would be signing him and putting him straight into the starting 11…let’s face it, if it’s a free transfer then it can only make tactical sense more than anything else, he would be a backup player at best but it means he can’t hurt you from the opposing side with some random special moments as we’ve seen over the years.
Probably right there, but someone with his wages I don't see how it would be worth it
If City need a player to strut around the centre circle, arms up in the air instructing his teammates where to go and what to do Pogba is THE MAN. That will be my abiding memory of him as a Man. Utd player. I agree with Jamie Carragher Free transfer or not, his high salary makes him a risk.
Well said Carragher, as a United fan my only regret about Pogba leaving is that we didn’t cash in while he had a decent amount of his contract remaining. Good riddance
You are absolutely right
One of the biggest flops to grace the league
Criminal neglect from Woodward or whoever in is charge of contracts to let him run down his contract and leave on a free!
United fan here, and i agree.
hes one of your best players cry about it
As a United fan I would love to see him in City. Believe me I have watched him for 6 years and he will be the one who will play spoil sport in the dressing room, not by his antics on field but mentally influencing the team to be ok when they loose the game. When I look at City now I look at a team who is determined to win every single battle, bring in Pogba and he will soften that feeling. I can also tell you that he will have a great first season because of the WC, these pundits will praise him as one of the best players in the World and how Man United didn’t use him correctly. The actual circus will start the season after.
You’re an idiot… respectfully
Spot on
I'm not worried about Jogba in City, not in the least. His mentality will poison the backroom, as surely as the dawn. Mourinho called him the virus and we didn't listen. He was absolutely right.
💯💯💯
Agree, there is only one issue. It's not us who'll benefit, it's Liverpool. We just suck. But give Pogba 6 months, he'll make City which is 95+ points per season team drop to 88. Then we need to convince Klopp to take Maguire for free to level the playing field.
Carragher was spot with the Gerrard comparison. For a decent to middling team Gerrard was consistently one of the best players in the league.
Even when you look at players like Eden Hazard, I've seen so many occasions when he won games for Chelsea on his own, even when Costa left we were terrible at building a proper team around him and he didn't play with an elite striker and we often looked disjointed at times, yet he was still a standout. In his final season under Sarri he absolutely carried us and won 14 MOTM awards in the PL (same number as Suarez in 13/14). Pogba was rarely a standout in the PL like he was, when Man Utd were in big trouble I could count on one hand the number of times Pogba stepped up
Carragher: 'I am, once again, IN NO WAY, saying he has not got talent. No one is disputing that he has got talent. He has talent. I'm merely questioning his effort.'
Redknapp: 'So, you're saying he's not talented?'
Man City doesn't need Paul Pogba...he would be sitting on the bench or even worse....
Whats worse then that? oiling peps head?
Only thing worse for Man City would be him playing
@@unclebob1478 😂🤣🤣
They didn’t need grealish. Don’t be surprised
Fernandinho
Carraghers right. If we're still asking the question after 6 years, that itself answers it.
Not really
Pogba wouldn’t last in the locker room when Roy keane was the captain.
@@thomassmith5395 yes. If he was good enough, we wouldn't need to be asking if he was good enough 6 years on, because we would know.
Watch him go to City and prove all you haters wrong!
@@jamesduffy7549 that is just for United. Uniteds style/approach is completely different to the way Pogba plays. Just look at the way Pogba plays completely different and like him self within the national team. You need to stop thinking that Pogba will be the exact same on and off the pitch if he was at City. So many players at flopped at Clubs then moved and become successful again
When they said “Pogba has something to prove.” He had 6 years at United to prove he’s worth anything. I believe he’s got quality, but Pogba needs to agree to a pay cut from wherever he goes next before he can prove he’s worthy of more.
He won the club a few mickey mouse trophies while playing with players at the end of their careers in Schweini, Zlatan, Ronaldo, Sanchez etc., plus Fellaini, Herrera, Schneiderlin, McTominay and Fred and a lot more trash players at the club. And you actually think Pogba wouldn't improve that City team by a mile? There is a reason Pogba is a must in that French squad. Fans, smh.
Then after that short “point proving” period players of that childish disgusting mentality will just revert straight back to character
@@kizito8888 I'd like to see Maguire get that same respect then he's magnificent for England innit 😂
No serious club touches Pogba. He'll end up at PSG selling shirts for 400k a week. He wouldn't improve Newcastle let alone City. 10 good matches a season and people treat him like he's Zidane.
@@basil1457 Did you just compare Pogba to Maguire? The only reason Maguire plays for England is that he signed for United. And get out of here with your "no serious club touches Pogba." They will be queueing up.
@UCX6LxwVLjAQS0eX4p2EBuQw "Maguire produces nothing less than a 9/10." Right! And I am sure they have trophies to show for it. I will stay away from whatever you are smoking.
I have to say I agree with Carragher - he's a 'Premium Economy' Balotelli (i.e. slightly better), you don't win leagues with people like that because he doesn't put a shift in when things are going against you. Pogba's talent is undeniable, but grit is undervalued and players like him don't have it, they're more interested in stuff off the field...
First comparison that came to my mind....Balotelli. Man City do not need Paul Pogba, even on a free.
I'm with Carragher
You can have him
As a United fan I'm excited at the prospect of Pogba sabotaging them instead of us
True 😆 everyone forgets it was Kante in his pomp playing like 2 players that did all the work for Pogba for France
Braindead English, 4-0 to a mid table team. More to come next season with Pogba long gone, bet you old farts and English rejects will jump on whoever the English media blames for next seasons failures
@@Sheepwillbesheep and it was pogba playing like he does for united that got them knocked out of the euros when they should have won the thing easily.
As a Man Utd fan, I’d love nothing more than a Man City move for Pogba,…he would be doomed in a Guardiola squad with his work ethic…he has the technical ability that Pep demands but not the discipline and tactical intelligence that Guardiola demands…..
Nah mate. He could thrive also. Pep would kick the attitude in first week itself. Pogba is still a world class player, but the attitude needed change. At united he did not do that
Pogba. 89 million he cost man utd. In 6 years i cud count on 2 hands the amount of good games hes had. Very poor return for a player of his talent.
Pep likes ball players. pogba is a ball player.great match
🤣🤣🤣 you lot just chat out of ur asses
This discussion is a perfect example of cultural differences that are built in to people underneath the skin. Northern European standards of working hard are completely different to elsewhere.
Pogba :
"I've fooled some of the people all of the time"
The fact he's been there so long invalidates all their points. Jamie is right, in all that time he hasn't been at the level you would expect of someone who would play for City, that isn't going to change now.
english and football just isn’t the same as for the rest of the world that simple in the history of the game no player regardless of their quality has done well in a no good lousy In balanced team
Micah is deluded, he wouldn't fit in this City team. They work so hard to get the ball back. Already Grealish is struggling in that aspect even though he has intent. Talk about Pogba 's intent, it's non existent
Micah is a City fanboy through and through.
Grealish played well today. Will be good next season
Worst pundit going
@@kevinconway2965 that was his team so
pogba is miles better than grealish. he has the technical ability to fit into this city team
I was a young man watching Pogba at Juventus, absolutely buzzing hearing of him signing for United. I am now an older man sick to death of hearing his name being stirred around in the same way every single time. I’ll be happy to see the back of him. If he goes on to do well for another PL club then good luck to him but he’s made a fool out of United and made a fool out of every United fan. Doesn’t give a monkeys about the fans at all, if he did then he would’ve changed his attitude long ago. If Pogba is given a new contract at United then I think the club has given up on its morals.
Pogba is literally one of our best players. Take out ronaldo pogba de gea bruno and now we have a glorified norwich
@@keepfighting4791 that’s why 3 different managers haven’t fancied him! He’s been one of your biggest liabilities
Could not agree more.
@@keepfighting4791 doesn’t matter how good a player is, if he doesn’t want to play for the shirt then get him out. I’d rather have someone who will walk into the changing rooms win, lose or draw knowing that they left everything on the pitch. “Glorified Norwich”, hardly.
@@smokeymac4516 u probably rate mctominay cuz of “passion and desire”
As a Liverpool fan I would love to see him at Man City. Hopefully his work shy mentality can rub off on the rest of the squad. He can get them down the barbers for a silly hair cut and get them more worried about how many instagram followers they've got rather than their on pitch performances like him.
Stop it man🤣🤣🤣
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As a Man United fan, I highly encourage you to sign him and play him in your starting 11 .... If you want Liverpool to win the league next year lol
Pogba’s been part of the problem at united for the past 6 years with his inconsistent performances.
remember when united signed pogba and his was what the fans said was missing. United have had issues way before pogba. Ever since Ferguson left. United look for players as scapegoat. First it’s Phil jones then pogba then maguire then RONALDO. The fans and the way the board run the club is the problem. Ferguson set that bar very high and they just can’t replicate that old united so it’s alot of pressure
But who has not been the problem at united?
How do these ppl expect one person to carry the team. He’s not even a striker that should be scoring. You expect him to carry a team that lost 4-0 to Brighton. You must be outta your mind
@@keepfighting4791 it's strikers or attacking midfielders that carries team and that is when the other team members are doing their basic job. Everybody is Benzema carried Madrid this season but aren't every other players doing their basic job? What can a deep lying midfielder do in a dysfunctional team? With Ronaldo in his prime we cannot make top 4 with this team
@@shitturasheed3551 there you go well said.
I wouldn’t take him based on the attitude, as an arsenal fan when arteta got rid of aubameyang everyone said it was a bad decision but the team has grown in confidence and has started playing better as a team with camaraderie, I think Pogba’s attitude towards how he plays and trains is reason enough not to sign him
exactly we’re doing better now than we were when he was with us
With him you won 3-1 against Spurs. Now you lost 3-0 to Spurs and youre going to lose your CL spot 😂😂
@@oneeyyyyyyuh164 ok? its football it happens? matches are won on the day. weird argument.
@@ygbh5934 Youre not so clever are you? Youre talking about The fact youre doing better, but youre losing your CL spot to your biggest rivals. Fking mid club you are
@@ygbh5934 also nothing to do with Pogba 😂
When someone shows you who they are, believe them. Pogba's been showing you who he is for the past few years. Top sides aren't bringing people in and hoping they can pull off a big transformation job with the new player. Carragher's got it right and the other two have got it exactly backwards: the player earns the right to play for a top side with their body of work. The job of the manager should be to make it easier for the player to do things they've shown a desire and ability to do; NOT TO GET THEM TO DO THINGS THEY'VE SHOWN NO DESIRE OR ABILITY TO DO.
Carragher simplified the whole argument:
"Does he work hard enough?" (For a title winning PREMIER LEAGUE side, City). ..
Answer is no.
I’m a united fan but I’m with Jamie 1000%, city can have him do us a favour
which Jamie
Typical English fan
@@duncankowable hopefully he means Cara
Good, we will sign him
No hard feelings then
I agree with Carra ! A great manager may be able to get a bit extra out of a great player , but 100% commitment should be a given . If he cant give that from his own desire - he doesn`t deserve a place in a top team like City . Weve seen it at Utd ,this year , what having players with poor attitudes can do to the whole team . Even as a free transfer not worth the risk for City .
He’s been here for 6 years done nothing and shown nothing worthy of a top team. The worse argument they use and everyone else uses is that he plays well for france 🤦♂️ Harry Maguire plays well for England but in the league he’s been shocking so that’s a null point…..
As a United fan I’m with Jamie here, they can have him. He has quality, but when you have his attitude that simply isn’t enough. Pep and Co will find out soon enough if they take him that he simply isn’t a team player that works enough
Mayb , it is just a mayb . Can pep discipline and being the best out of him . He hasnt had a manager like pep , just my opinion . I have a slight part of me that thinks that pep can fix his artitude and his playing style
He's had Mourinho and van gaal and even they couldn't discipline him enough. I wonder what pep can do different with him tbh😅
@@Brajona_ come to think of it , u r r8. And besides there is no space for him to fit into the bench in man c let alone the starting 11
@@nik8468 City have multiple 18 year old youth players on their bench every single game who don’t play a single minute, you sound absolutely stupid if you believe that
@@Brajona_ pogba played well under LVG. That was prob his best man u form
Even for France though he doesn't work hard enough for Pep. The reason he looks good enough for France was because of the workrate of players like Matuidi and Kante
Preach
Thank you. He looks good for France because Kante does the box to box duties of two players at once because HE is the truly generational midfielder that France have
@@ajscott9528 Not every player has to be a workhorse. Different players have different roles. Pogba is more technically gifted then all of city's midfielders bar kdb.
And international football is slow and most teams are championship level.
@@huzaifaahmed2298 OK lets take away being a workhorse he has zero understanding of the game and his positional sense is dreadful. He also is prone to be give the ball away in the mot important areas of the pitch at the most crucial times.
Real didnt want him why should we want him clubs rejected him for a reason consistency is everything in football pep want consistent players not cry to the media players
It's not just about how he would perform at city. It's probably more important what impact he has on the other players there.
100%
I'm a man utd fan for life.jamie carragher was spot on.i loved his honesty.
How
Pogba is the most overrated player in premier league history. The fact that they found someone who would accept him on their team on tv is sickening. I hope manU gets rid of him. Idc if we get no money just get rid of him asap
@@michaelduarte1905 But you don’t know if Pogba will be the same player at City like he was at United. For all you know Pogba could turn into another Yaya Toure
Carragher is spot on. Micah and Jamie have gone out of their minds.
Micah Richards is like a child in punditry
They're always out of their minds ... two of the most overpaid people on TV
@@rorymathers7315 I felt sorry for carragher there it was like trying to explain to 2 8 year olds that things cost money! He could of gone into more detail beyond just the fact he doesn’t work hard enough
I dont think that Jamie Redknapp has ever watched France play. They have a system that is designed to get the best out of him. If Man City did that then that takes away from De Bruyne (who is a better player) and it makes them a poorer team.
His scoring record for France is actually poor as well, 11 goals in 91 games for an attacking midfielder. Remember that a lot of those games are against the likes of Moldova, Estonia, Faroes etc.
also, when they won the world cup he had peak ngolo kante next to him, being two men, and another midfielder also to cover for him. he wont make the french team for much longer either given the talent available to france.
Jamie Redknapp and Micah Richards overhyping a player that's proven over multiple years to be overrated.
What's new? Carra is completely correct and the only one talking logicallly here and not just reading a headlines hype train.
Richards just likes pogba personally I think he’s attracted to him, look at him trying to convince carragher to change his opinion “the quality”…like some 10 year old trying to convince his mom to let his best friend stop over, pathetic
Jamie spot on as usual. Manager shouldn't matter as to put or not put effort. 6 years in the league and never really impressed, has all the talent in the world but is a luxury player that won't work as much as you need to work within a team
oh fr 6 years in has never ever come close to justifying the 90 million price tag hell i don't think he's even put in 50 million worth
Exactly, it's only children that need constant encouragement to do better. An adult, a professional player doesn't need or should not need a constant encouragement and inspiration from the manager to work hard and play well. Working as hard as possible is the minimum requirement in professional football, it doesn't matter who the manager is at the time. A player worth his weight in gold always strives to go above and beyond what is required. Pogba is not an individual capable of doing that.
Spot on ? Yes. As usual? No.
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 my mans hating so hard right now. Pogba is literally one of our best players there’s no need to over exxagerate. We’ve all seen him impress before
@@keepfighting4791 not at all he's never come close to justifying that 90 mil price tag he's had some good games but for the majority of the time he has looked and performed uninterested lazy and just doesn't care In his last 3 seasons he's only scored 8 goals combined In 71 appearances ........ not good enough since he's returned to united 39 goals In 224 appearances once again is not good enough in the 6 seasons he's been here just once has he broke double digits goal scoring in all competitions but suuuuuure hating rn also fun fact Ronaldo has racked up 24 goals in Just 38 games and is significantly older then Pogba we also got him for free
Carra's calling this one right for me. If I was a City fan I'd be really unhappy with the very idea of Pogba joining a fantastic squad that just doesn't need his kind of influence about the place.
As a Man Utd fan for 38 years, i think the currentam City Midfield line up have no place for a Prima Donna like Pogba.
With the world class line up of B silva De Bruyne, Foden, fernandinho, Mahrez, Sterling amd Gundogan.
Pogba is not even half the player of foden. Lack alone the more senior man city player.
Why do you think Pep said they don’t have money ? 🤣😂🤣😂😂
Completely agreed. Why on Earth would you even take the risk on someone like Pogba if you don't have a pressing need to strengthen the midfield. City has the pull to bring someone in who's hungrier and who doesn't have a track record for disappearing for long stretches of the season.
Pogba is a perfect example of what is wrong with football
Imagine being paid all that money to do something you supposedly love, yet not being ar$ed to
Doesn't deserve anywhere near the life he has
Physically gifted and that’s it has the work rate of a Mexican landscaper
Well said
Bravo. And it’s so disappointing to see. I’m Spurs til I die, but I want the best players in the world to play their best and do it in the Prem. It’s a shame to see a guy like Pogba who has absolutely elite talent, but only decides to use it on rare occasions.
I've said it before if you had to name just ONE modern day footballer that sums up the over paid under motivated type, it would be Pogba.
@@LeeThompson-pu6xf thankgod his pig of a agent has kicked the bucket that’s one less snake hissing down his ear 🐍
It's crazy that when some people talk about Pogba's quality they go back to what he was like at Juventus 6 years ago
in a league that isnt as good quality wise, for the team that dominated that league. see lukaku.
"It's not about working hard, come on." And there's Micah Richards's career explained for you
Ahahaha 😆👏🏼👏🏼
I don't know what you are trying to prove with your comment about Richards career but he had a high work rate.
@@yao052 not off the pitch, by his own admission
He's an embarrassment to punditry.
Absolutely! 💥
Crazy arguments from Redknapp and Richards there "you're saying he can't or he won't" 100% he can run all day the fact that he doesn't is why City shouldn't touch him.
But football isn't about running all day - hence why every top club in the world will be interested? Carragher saying how he and Gerrard run all day yet barely won anything...
@@Chris-mk1wh I felt that Carragher was tallking about standards and being professional, giving your all no matter the situation on the pitch.
Honestly i dont think he can run all day
He can run without a doubt we see it with France.
I'd be interested to see how it works out.
I've never agreed more with Jamie as I do right now. Spot on.
I am a United supporter and I 100% agree with Cara on this. What type of character doesn't have enough motivation to play hard when their children are watching? Why should he need a manager to get the best out of him? Wrong personality, mentality and character for a Pep team. Or any top club imo. 5 or 6 years with different managers (incl. A world class trophy winning manager) and still the same nonsense. He plays when he wants to and that is not top a player imo. Pep would Yaya Toure him within months. Gone by the January window lol.
Yeah that's why he won world cup
@@mangeshgadekar7619 ok manga
Always “doesn’t work hard enough” look at his distance covered the guy covers a lot of ground people don’t notice because he can be nonchalant on the pitch
Agree whole heartedly with Jamie. Pogba is brilliant… when he wants to be. He’d be a horrendous fit at City where Pep is demanding and he rotates the team like crazy. He’d be mad after five games
Jamie is spot on.I can't think of one outstanding moment from Pogba in all those seasons.Lazy player and not suited to the fast pace of the Premiership
That one game where he scored 2 against City. Apart from that he's been average or thereabouts.
He did get those 5 assists in one game at the start of this season, but again he puts in 1 phenomenonal performance and then disappears for the next 7 months.
@Real Alpha you posted this 3 times... Are you trying to get a job as Pogba's agent or something? I don't think he is hiring, perfectly happy with Raiola helping him fleece Utd to the tune of hundreds of millions.
Pogba is overrated and better suited to Italy where the game is slower. I would welcome City to take him off Utd's hands so he can go flop there instead.
@Real Alpha says the guy simping for a man on the Internet. Pogba's not gonna let you smell his feet no matter how hard you simp for him bro.
Europa League player of year? So you’re basically admitting he’s a second rate and on same level as James Tavernier 🤣
would love to hear Roy keane's view.
He'd say he's lazy and isn't up to playing for a big team.
Sounesssss
"If Man City go anywhere near Pogba in the summer, they're in cuckoo land"
“I hope City do take him, yeah, might level the playing field for the other teams in the league”
Imo City defenders work way too much as they're most of time are roaming in opponent half and if there is one mistake they have to run back asap with enormous pace and reading game
So Pogba also have to work hard and play defensive aswell.(which he didn't do under Jose as a result Jose & Pogba had fight)
Pogba play offensive game rather than defensive/overall game pep want good player to play overall game(press win ball and than join attack)
Pogba play better in France because he know he got player who can cover for him if he go up and join attack.
Pogba is a technical player but he have to prove that he is a overall player too or most of time he would have to come of the bench or be a secondary starter
I think Jamie made a fair argument at the end for what I thought at the start. My view before the video was that pogba is a waste of time for city but actually got his point of view by the end
As a liverpool fan, i would love to see Pogba in City. With Haaland coming in, the only way City can get weaker is by self destructing themselves by signing someone like Pogba. If Pogba playing is not an issue, then Pogba not playing would cause an issue because of his antics. Lets pray Pogba goes to Man City 😉. BTW micha and redknapp speaks rubbish.
Me too Liverpool we are.
I completely agree
Once city takes in pogba.
Klopp needs to take in Maguire, to level the playing field
@@ARAVINDDIPSY 😂😂
@@ARAVINDDIPSY don’t even compare pogba and maguire. Pogba is 10x the player maguire would ever be 😂
If Pogba was good enough for City we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
simple as that
facts
Pogba should’ve been an nba player or summet
Totally agree with carragher. I think he is well overhyped and I personally can’t see who loses their spot in this city team to fit him in. City are an unbelievable and well balanced team, I think pogba would mess up that balance. I doubt the players would want him
Skill will never be more important than teamwork, for me. Pogba can be great (if you think he is), but if he's not willing to work as a part of the team, then what is the point to have someone who can dribble a lot and then not plays for the team. This is not futsal, this is football. You have to play with the rest of the team. You lose the ball, you immediately go back and do the best to get it back, not staying in the ground, jogging and then feeling sorry. He's done that for years now. Many of the opposite side teams have scored goals against Man Utd for his mistakes. For me, that's not a United player. That's just someone trying to make a name for himself until a better option comes along. Just look at how much Juan Mata have done in this last couple of games, compared to Pogba. Yes, we've lost with Juan, but we've lost much more with Pogba. He can be world champion with France, but that's a whole other team and circumstance than playing for United weekend in and out. If he wants to leave, be my guest. At least, that's what I think. And finally, if he goes to Man City, that will tell you everything you need to know about what he's looking for right there.
Carragher is absolutely spot on.
He seems more interested in his social media presence these days than actually performing well on the pitch. He played well in Italy because the game wasn't played at as high a tempo and he had more time on the ball. I can't see him fitting into the pressing style Man City play.
You mean you do.
he didnt play that well in italy either. he was pulling the same numbers there that he was in united. only in italy he was a young kid with a lot of potential so people overlooked his faults thinking he's going to get better
@@srijanagrawal255 how many seria A games did you actually watch during his time in Italy? He was playing with quality and delivered with his own dose of quality.
He actually scored some great goals and played quality football hence man u actually wanting him back
@@registame2878 I agree. I said he pulled the same numbers. Similar goals and assists etc. There was no massive dip in form from juve to utd. People are upset cuz he never grew into the player that we all thought he would
@@srijanagrawal255 he actually should have done better but when you see how bad man u are he didn’t really stand a chance; serious players need a serious environment to develop in. Getting away from all the nonsense can only help him get it better
It's crazy that people say it's everyone's else's fault. Get rid. Pep will not go near him.
I agree with Carra on Pogba for sure, but there will be no losers if he goes to City, it doesnt matter if he does well at City or not, and if United sell him they can replace him with someone more consistent. Win-win
Redknapp saying "Hasn't he shown glimpses?" After 6 years in the league being hyped as one of the most talented midfielders, you'd hope he would have done significantly more than shown glimpses. Absolutely awful player for City to sign, he does nothing better than everyone city already have in that team, and free transfer would just mean more wages or signing bonus
Couldn't agree more
You don't understand football
Redknapp treats him like he's a promising up and coming 19-year old. He's 29 years of age and had plenty of time to show more than just glimpses.
and glimpses are all you will ever see no matter where he goes! Redknapp and Richards are so naive to think it would be a good move."if it aint broke,dont fix it" just leave him well away from City
City are about to win their 4th PL in 5. Signing Pogba is a terrible idea.
Pogba going to Man City will be a great move for Liverpool
How?,I actually think it would be a wrap, imagine facing pogba, kdb, haaland, Mahrez, over 2 legs pep will destroy teams with them
I think the Pogba criticism over the six years he has been in English football is more a reflection of English culture than on Pogba as a player. The English appreciate hard work over technical ability and this is reflected on the fact that English football still doesn't have a midfielder who can enable the team to keep the ball and dictate the play as well as managing the game. His languid style gives the impression that he doesn't work hard enough.
Statistically, he has given greater output at Man Utd than when he was at Juve. Never got to double figures in goals or assists at Juve but got to double figures in assists 17/18 and goals in 18/19. He just doesn't meet the English stereotype of a midfielder.
It hasn't helped that he has been in a period when ManUtd have been in a state of flux and instability. How can you explain a midfielder who is a nailed on starter for the best national team in the world being supposedly "poor" and worthy of all this criticism? He is not the only Utd signing to have gone to Utd and struggled for consistency. The club hasn't had a proper playing style and recruitment strategy and I wonder why all this is ignored when assessing Paul Pogba.
He is a world class midfielder who signed for a team that didn't have the structure to get the best out of him in a way that emphasises his strengths rather than leaving him exposed.
why would anybody argue with someone saying they dont want pogba in their team?
the only way to drag man city down is to give them pogba on a free lol
spot on🤣🤣
@@corkion not really remember tevez, Peter
@@petermumbi7748 Tevez >>>> Pogba
if grealish couldn’t drag them down pogba will be fine
@@marcelohendrix6139 Anyday Grealish>Pogba
Pogba has had enough time to prove many points over the past 6 years. He has the ability but only when he can be bothered.
Quite simply, pog isnt good enough for city. He needs to go somewhere that is more his level, for instance something like LA Galaxy in the 'US Major league soccer'
Micah Richards: 'It's not about working hard.' Has he not been watching City and Liverpool these last few years? The running and pressing is off the charts - it's a key part of the modern game
"It's not about working hard" - man who didn't work hard and blew his career
What is Micah Richards smoking saying "he would have pogba at city in a heartbeat". He's on hundreds of thousands of pounds a week at united and he's playing like I would hungover on a Sunday morning after a free bar the night before!
Carra never misses
just savage from carra
Except when he says there’s no way Ralph can do 6 hours a week at united on top of the Austrian job.
@@david6178 that was the ONLY DUMB THING I've ever seen him or heard him say.....
Wrong about cr7
I feel like in the modern game you have to run your socks off (look at Sergio aguero 1st year under pep vs the year before) but midfielders especially.
Also there’s almost no excuse to not work hard at this level. You can do it for the fans, the manager, the club or the paycheck, but the point is you need to work hard.
Real variety in suit choices from the lads here
“He’s done well for France”
Yeah with N’golo Kante next to him covering the entire pitch on the heat map
Not to mention Benzema who will slap an attitude out of someone, he helped mold Vini into the player he is now
@@nash9625
You do realise that Pogba was part of the 2018 France team with no Benzema. The one that actually won the World Cup.
It's funny that people make up things to slate a player they don't like.
@@Agee1 you assume I don't like the guy, I want him to go to Real so I can watch him be successful.
@@nash9625 yeah at least a 37 year old modric would do the running for him.
@@Agee1 yh and mustafi won a world cup wouldn't exactly call him a top player would we aha
Where's Souness??? We needed him for this!
he cant talk properly
it was good to see genuine disagreement rather than opposition just for the sake of it
If and that’s a rather big if, Pogba puts his head down, works week in week out and shows the leadership he does at France he can still win that Ballon D’or he was meant to receive in terms of his talent
Jamie is spot on with his assessment of Pogba. He doesn't work hard enough for United. He would be out of his depth at City with the way they play with their energy and intensity.