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Just last year, I had to deal with the worst drama I've ever had in my entire life. I posted an artwork for a fandom I really enjoyed on my old DeviantArt account and got a bizarre comment. The person said that they really loved the piece and would should it to their brother when they woke up. I ended up reading a little too much into what they said and asked them what they meant, and they responded that their brother was in a coma. I shared my sympathy for their situation and, feeling empathetic towards them, offered to help them any way that I could. I didn't really expect them to take advantage of my generosity and soon found myself being pulled deeper and deeper into their situation. Before I knew it, I had their entire family following me and constantly messaging me. Being the kind of person who finds it difficult to say no to someone in need, I even ended up agreeing to do a project with them. It wasn't too bad at first, but the more and more time went on, the more clinging and demanding they became of me. On a day that I was not on the site because I had so many other things I wanted/needed to do that day, it was their birthday and they became furious with me for not wishing them a happy birthday. I didn't even know it was their birthday yet I apologized and explained the situation to them, only for them to remain angry at me. They soon became angry at me for not responding to messages right away and, when I expressed my need for space, they were absolutely infuriated with me. Soon after, I started receiving messages of the brother who was in a coma (who had woken up) had run off and was on a "killing spree". He'd send me kill counts and it was really freaking me out. I begged them to leave me alone and to stop what they were doing. I threatened to block them when the brother suddenly revealed that his "killing spree" was just a prank. I was so infuriated with him and told him off about his stupidity. My family actually had to call the police about the situation but they couldn't do anything since the owner of the account was from the other side of the world. I wasted no time in blocking the entire family but soon after got a message from a friend who revealed that the entire family was actually one guy. I had never been so outraged with anyone in my life. I had given so much help and kindness, thinking that this was a family in need, only to discover that it was one jerk who wanted to play with my feelings. I thanked the friend but, wanting to be careful that it wasn't the same guy trying to get back at me, blocked the friend. I thought it was all over and done with, but started getting contacted by people who watched our project or followed the person, informing me that they were being harassed by the person to talk to me about unblocking them. I explained the situation to them and they all felt horrible about what I was going through, promising to no longer watch the person and to block them. The last person to contact me about it said that the cousin of the person who had deceived me wrote a journal that the person had committed suicide after what had happened and blamed me for the whole thing, saying all these horrible things about me that weren't even true. That was the last straw. I deleted my account and moved to a new one, not wanting to put up with his lies any longer. Knowing what a liar the person was, I bet he was only pretending to be a cousin and lied about his death. But if by some chance it is true, they have no right to blame me for anything. I was the victim of the situation, falling into their trap of lies and dragged through absolute torture because they had filled me with guilt that I should not have felt. When my dad talked to me about the situation, he warned me about people called "emotional predators". As he explained them to me, they are people who make you feel things that you should not feel and will guilt trip you whenever possible, making you feel responsible for their troubles and force you into situations for their amusement. I NEVER want to have to go through that ever again! I ended up having to carry my Pikachu plushie everywhere I went with me because I was so worried that the person might try and come after me! It was my little security "blanket" throughout the whole thing. I still sometimes cling to it whenever I get scared about the whole thing. It's been a year now since the whole thing but I'm still worried about it. All that I have left to say is "be careful of who you meet online".
Holy text wall. But wow that sounds awful. So remember, kids: where it's your place, try to stand up for yourself. Many people who claim to be in a tragic situation, especially on the internet, will try to guilt trip you into doing things for them (especially making art for them, from what I hear), so keep skeptical and if they get angry with you do your best to tell them why you're not at fault so they can understand. If they're just not listening, blocking is a good way to go. I hope you don't have to face anything like that again, Midnight. By the way, did you resume talking to your friend after it all passed?
Uh, the only "friend" I made in that time was the lying jerk, so there's no way I'd continue talking to him. I pretty much blocked everyone who brought up that discuss before moving to a new account just to be safe in case it was him again. What he did to me left me so paranoid, I couldn't even trust anyone who knew about the situation in fear that it was him again trying to sneak his way back into my life.
Oh, well, he wasn't actually my friend. He said he was a friend of the liar. I was really worried that it might be the same guy or that he'd start threatening me like his friend did, so I blocked him. The friend actually asked me to unblock the liar and his family. He asked nicely, but I wasn't willing to put up with any more of the drama. I was way too nervous to let anyone else involved try to befriend me after that. If that friend did somehow find me again and wanted to make friends with me, I'd probably still turn him down. I'm just not over what happened yet and I'm not ready to trust anyone involved in the drama. I probably will never be. I have some anxiety issues so I just try to avoid whatever makes me feel uncomfortable whenever possible so that it doesn't get too bad. I am willing to face my problems when I have no other choice, but it's not very healthy for me.
Sadly, in the fandom I'm in, drama isn't really caused by miscommunications, but by bullying. By believing in different things, whether that belief is right or wrong. I wish this would stop, it's not healthy. And not being overly emotional is very hard too, because of events that have happened that literally tore this fandom apart.
A lot of fandoms are sadly like that, there is usually a group of people that believe that their opinion is the one and only good one and I've seen a lot of people being straight up bullied and yelled at for disagreeing with someone, a lot of people seem to be so immature it's sad :(
SPYRONINE um i dont think its undertale...... that drama doesn't happen in that fandom...actually bearly any drama happens except for the haters of Undertale and ships
When it comes to drama, I think a good habit is to stay civil, but put fact before feelings. I've been involved in a fair share of drama, like half of this comment section. My most recent and impactful experience was, like most of my problems, my fault for allowing to happen. I want to make the distinction that while I did nothing wrong in the moment, I made a mistake that made this possible. For half a year, I talked with and tried to help out depressed people. I'm not a psychiatrist or whatever, and I definitely wasn't in a healthy state of mind doing this. Eventually, though, my own depression vanished, almost like it was never there, but the same couldn't be said for a few of my friends. There was one girl who adored me, and I had been comforting her and allowing her to be as close as she pleased, which I didn't mind a ton. She did have feelings for me, though, and that was frustrating. The problem with me almost exclusively being with her was that I was sacrificing my mental health and my existing friendships for her needs. I did my best to make it clear to her that I simply wanted to be loyal to my group of friends, and that I'd still talk to her often. She seemed to be encouraging and understanding, but within maybe a week or two, she was sending accusatory texts about how I didn't care. Twice, I had to confront her, talk to her, and make up, hugs and all, but it didn't amount to anything. The texts still came, and I finally gave in and retaliated. I wish I hadn't, because that damaged our chances of being friends again, but it was a good decision to leave entirely. Sometimes, you have to be merciless. Not like cruel, but you have to put feelings aside and deal in truths. The important lesson I learned, and tried to convey to her, is that feelings are subjective, and anything can hurt you if you misinterpret what someone is saying or doing. I do have a bit of a positive ending, though. When me and this girl had finally broke off connections, her best friend had, at first, despised me, even up until a couple months ago. But I think my level-headedness and friendliness warmed me up to her, and in May, she was willing to talk to me like a friend would. She was joking around and all... and just a month prior, she wouldn't even refer to me as a human. Hopefully, that first girl and I can make the same progress. This might've turned into a rant, cos I don't remember what I started with, but I hope someone can learn something from this.
The SmartAleck holy cow the Voltron fandom is the most toxic fandom for shipping it’s crazy. I can’t even make a plance edit on Instagram implying why I believe it might be canon without getting attacked by a bunch of klancers
Usually when I'm in an argument, I'm mostly thinking *"Don't prove them wrong, let themselves be proven wrong"*. This quote coincidentally doesn't work with me, I'm always wrong.
It's also worth addressing when the "drama" is between you and someone with authority over you. Let's say, not-so-hypothetically, you're on a discord server you enjoy taking part in, but the owner is being unfair to you and not seeming to acknowledge that they are being so. You have to keep in mind that trying to explain to them that they're being unfair could get you kicked out of the server, and keeping things brief, as hard as it may be and however much it leaves you internally salty afterwards, is definitely safer option in terms of staying on the server. At least, that's what I did.
I really liked how you defined drama. Also, remember that a simple miscommunication can lead to as much as centuries of imprisonment in limbo if you are unfortunate enough... let's just not go there.
Sometimes when drama strikes, you gotta cut toxic people loose. Not over any little thing... but there's a limit, and sometimes you need to put your hoof down and cut your losses.
Hallo again! So, Drama. I actually know small and big scale drama from my time online. I find the best thing to do with it is try to reach out to them and reach the common ground, and if they ignore it, well, you did your best. Don't get too beat up on it if ya fail, cuz for each person out there that's hostile, there is one more that is friendly.
It’s good to have a friend who’s willing to be a lighting bolt and clear up drama in friendships, like me. I’ve had my fair share of drama and you just got to be patient with the two feuding friends and find different ways to mend the friendship, I’ve also been apart of drama with one of my friends and we had to teach him/her a lesson about how he/she should treat others that his/her behavior shouldn’t be tolerated nor be encouraged, this was a risky move on our part but talking to him/her wasn’t cutting it. He/her learned his/her lesson.
I had a "friend" and her favorite hobby was causing drama, and I got so tired of her bullcrap that I stopped talking to her all together, and I'm actually very happy that I cut her out of my life, because she was also extremely toxic and manipulative, why did I write this? I don't know… This video just got me thinking :3
I’m a drama queen 👸🏻 but sometimes my family and friends get little bit annoyed with me. And btw Ty, I’m not Canadian I’m Filipino but I understand that you’re proud of your country and I am too. And I might comment again because I am a bit of a chatterbox which is one o my oc’s bad character traits because I was worried that I would create a Mary Sue as my personal oc. Which is why I watch your videos and channel! You said in your other video, *I pretend to be you to quote this* “If I didn’t ever watch channels like Dr Wolf, Silver Quill, and Mad Munchkin, I would have never *remembers line you said* *forgets* whatever! This is feedback and sharing, not sentimental nonsense! (But the reason why I shared the thing you said in the other video is because I can relate. You are the Dr Wolf, or Silver Quill, or Mad Munchkin to me.) And yes I do understand your issues and problem stuff so I get why you don’t make much content nowadays. Or maybe it’s because mlp fim is over? Well, idk. But I do know that your channel is awesome and (only if you can), you should start making more content again. Thanks for reading! (If Tyandaga actually sees this comment, OMG 😆 I am a fan!)
Although... what do you do, when you do all of this, understand the person you wronged, what you did wrong, and even willing to saying sorry and they were right calmly, but has no result from the other, what then? Yes I saw the end, but recently i pissed off one of my best and oldest friends over something’s meant as a gift that went horrible wrong, and they won’t even give me the time of day
Did that the other day. Long story short, I 'disrespected' someone by rebooting their forum and blocking them and their friends for an issue that was completely unrelated. A few days later, the forum was going great. Then, they came on and demanded that I took down the forum because I had blocked them. I didn't understand why they were so offended. What I did, I'm not proud of, but it's all I could do. I explained to them that I was very sorry for what I did and didn't realise they had taken it so personally, and I should have been more considerate and perhaps explained the issue to them. They replied with: 'If you're really sorry, get your head out of your ass and delete every post on this forum, you spineless piece of sh*t. I'm not leaving until justice is served and you've learnt your lesson.' I tried to explain that two other people were roleplaying and enjoying it, but they got more and more angry and sweary, and they brought their friend along to harass me too. Eventually, I spent a little over half an hour in tears, deleting every single post in the forum. I had blocked the people before, as advised, but they made alternative accounts and harassed me even more because of it. After I deleted the forum, I left my phone alone for a few minutes to cry, and when I came back on I was flooded with sympathetic messages, most asking me what was wrong, since I had posted a status update saying that I now knew what cyber-bullying was. I feel a lot better now, because I'm not alone anymore. I no longer feel like I want to die. That's good.
One of other thing to keep in mind is if a situation does not involve you (even if your close friends with those involved), DO NOT get involved. And if you are asked to get involved, try not to. A few times, I've actually been asked to get involved in incidents and have said no for the most part, even though I'd back it up by giving a different solution.
I have never been asked to get involved in anything serious but people in my class have the feeling to get me to resolve arguments about nothing. It is hilarious what some people argue over.
I completely agree with this video, and it feels like this video has been speaking my mind. Fandom Drama in my opinion is the worst. I honestly do think it's worse in some fandoms than others though. For example, I for the life of me cannot stand the Star Wars fanbase right now, and the drama is exactly why. It seems like most of the Star Wars fans I see these days have a "If you don't share my exact same opinion as me, then you're not a true fan" mentality and will bully anyone who shares an opinion that isn't their own, since they always see their opinion on each Star Wars movie as fact. I am so sick of reading comments of people online talking about whether or not they liked The Last Jedi, and then ending up in a war zone with other fans because some people decide to bully and insult him just for having an opinion. It's actually surprisingly hard to find someone who has a different opinion to me about The Last Jedi, and having them actually be civil about it. I have a TH-cam channel where I publically review movies, and yet to this day I still haven't reviewed it, and the extremely toxic fanbase is exactly why. It's not just me either. Star Wars fans became so relentless on George Lucas on the prequels that he decided he didn't want to make any more Star Wars movies and gave it to Disney instead cause he had enough with the fandom's crap. The fanbase is so toxic it's literally making me like Star Wars as a franchise less because of it. Star Wars is honestly dying in my eyes, but The Last Jedi has nothing to do with it, considering I absolutely loved The Last Jedi. What's killing the franchise for me isn't the movies, it's the toxicity of the fandom. Anyone else agree with me?
So what do you do when someone is spreading rumors and falsehoods about you or someone you care about, and they both refuse to stop and admit what they're saying isn't true?
I've known a few people who just thrive on bringing other people down. Avoidance is generally the best policy, putting as much distance between them and you, even if it means no longer being friends with friends who are also connected to those people. Or you go the other route and fight back against them, but then be forewarned if you don't win, and win so well that it stops them. Then its just going to continue and be worse. Since you just painted a giant target on yourself.
This is a great explanation of drama and what to do. There's too many irrational dramatic choices people make to try and stay on top. Keep up the amazing work!
I've seen my share of drama, over the years. Be it personal drama with worrying if my shunt will malfunction and I would have to endure ANOTHER operation (I've had six in my life, so far.) Drama with finding my place in the world and especially drama within my favorite fandoms. The two biggest places I've seen drama happen came from the Steven Universe and MLP Fandoms. HOWEVER...in spite of it all; I remained a loyal member of both, to this day. Why and how...because I think of a simple phrase, should such moments arise. "One tree does not make a forest." Simply put, just because ONE person or group of persons you know of causes waves within your clique. It shouldn't cause you to destroy your ties with the people you're with. For example; not long ago, I saw a video by Rhys Davies Channel. One of him proclaiming he has officially ended his Roundup series. Going on to say that both the series has become boring (something I myself have yet to feel) and that the actions of a Brony have caused far too much drama for him. Now, I fully respect his decision to leave. There is so much a person can withstand, after all. But as I said, one tree does not make a whole forest. Just because one person caused some sour behavior in a group. It shouldn't destroy the goodness the majority has together. I'll forever enjoy looking at the content, stories, art, videos, etc of this fandom until the end. Because it has brought me more joy than the drama has brought me bitterness. But that's just me
Where was this video when I was first starting to be an active internet denizen? This is so helpful and straight forward, I love this. Thanks for this Ty, this is great stuff.
This was so helpful to me. Thank you very much, Tyandaga. Drama is something I go through all the time it is the bane of my existence. It is so difficult for me to get along with other people. I try my best to be nice. However I make mistakes that tick people off. It is bad enough to be a dysfunctional outcast. It is a struggle. I do appreciate the help. The one thing that I am good at is having a thick skin. I don't get upset easily. It would help to have that. I can stay calm in arguments. I have my limits though. Too much drama can be downright toxic, and it ruins my mental health.
Great video, I agree that no one should feel like they need to win the argument but people do feel the need to do that and I think "why bother, you're just wasting your breath"
I'm not much of an mlp fan, but your videos have such great points that can relate generally and not specifically mlp. I just love your style of videos and your advice helps a whole lot. I like that you use iconic characters to assist on how you get your point across as well.
Wow I haven't watch one of your videos in ages(no personal reason, just fell out of love with the pony show) but your video quality has very greatly improved. Im glad you continued to grow. 👍
You know, I'm glad that you're covering real life issues. I haven't seen this from a brony TH-camr before, but this is really uniqe, and pretty great advice. Thanks :-)
It’s really refreshing to see such a neutral party comment on this. Either people are highly negative and want to make out that drama is a pathetic Immature thing to partake in, and never realising that drama doesn’t start that way often, or they’re overly eager to stir the pot and make things worse. This was a very mature and thoughtful video.
I had a issue with a fellow artist they were upset about the pose in the picture I drew as it was similar to theirs so I apologised and offered to take my art work off my page, being positive and nice about it they responded just as nice and we worked out a solution to the problem and no shots were fired, great vid and advice ty
its nice how you address this. usually people dont discuss this at all and seem like they are right at all times. Hope you practice what you preach as well ty! hang in there.
Daizy74 it might be more of a pride thing then. But I’ve been in that situation before. I just told them that i was going to be friends with both of them regardless of how they felt for the other friend. If it gets to much maybe tell them to leave you out of it till they are ready to try and get past it.
The best thing to do about the whole drama thing is to try to ignore it. I’ve dealt with drama at least a few times and it’s not fun obviously. If it’s got anything to do with family or something like that then I can see that, it’s different for everyone. And getting bullied on this fandom I’m part of doesn’t necessarily help.
I know that this video has 2 years now, but have you read the four agreements (and the fifth agreement)? It's all about a way of living in society to don't get hurt, understand yourself and the others. There is some summaries on the web if you are interested, and this can help avoiding drama easily. (Why does the educations systems not talk about this, knowing how to live in society is cucial)
Couldnt of said it better myself! And very relateable as too. I had my far share of stuff like this happen. And sometimes sadly walking away from it is all you can do no matter how close you are or was with the person.
Poniezzzz. Nice video. I like the fact that bronies are(for the most part) pretty well versed in amicable human relationships because for better of for worse the show is getting into our skin with positive attitudes. What you are talking about are exceptions i am pretty sure but because the most vocal exceptions are the ones that stand out it sometimes feels that it's worse and way more broad than it actually is the case.
Dear lord I wish that we would all be so much more civil when it comes down to things like shippings and all... Once people get their minds set on a pair, nobody listens to what others’ opinions are - even if they’re being calm and respectful about the whole thing. I despise one of the largest pairings in another fanbase simply because of character handling reasons and numerous other things...yet voicing my opinion in a room with a large number of people in that fan base would get me shot almost IMMEDIATELY due to how prevalent that pairing is and how popular it is. I suppose every fandom will have its naval battles, but currently none are as hectic as the ones involving that pairing and someone with a logical reason to dislike it.
Kind of funny you upload a video about this subject as I'm writing a fanfic about the same exact subject, just a specific example. The fic is called The Refugee Club.
I notice you get close to no dislikes and that surprises me! I see people with a fair amount of dislikes as likes but you? You impress me! I wish I could animation like you. ;-;
How to avoid drama 101 1. Don't let things get under your skin 2.just be nice 2.5. Get drunk and have a knock out drag out fight 3. Laugh at the drama when it's over with.
This is why I don't get evolved in ship wars. It's because I like knowing the other person's perspective of a ship and why they do or don't ship it. I just see myself as a understanding person and I like being a understanding person it just feels right.
When my fiance and I are arguing about something and one of us starts to lose control, we will walk away, separate ourselves for a few hours/days and then come back and talk about it. I call that moment when we walk away, our "cool down" time.
Ah TH-cam drama where people in the wrong seems to win unless there being killed by idubbz then almost every time it's the person that did mess up things that wins unless the Community itself knows when someone is in the wrong.
My experience is that the vast majority of drama on the internet is being perpetrated by shallow selfish manipulative people. It's almost never a case of a simple misunderstanding. These are people who just seem to thrive on manipulating others to prop up their own ego.
Also I maybe made like the third comments Mosst usually after a drama someone gains or losses followers subscribers whatever social media website they're using
It's weird how a week ago I posted a video talking about drama in the LPS community, which spawned from a video of one of its members talking about both the LPS & Animation community. Paying it forward, perhaps?
I've never had drama come to me before in the fandom but I have seen tons from those I follow on Instagram. Ranging from someone simply having an oc with the same name as another oc to colour schemes and it's quite ridicilous
There's MASSIVE beef/drama going on in my friendship group One girl even SELF-HARMED (one of the two main people in the beef) because of it I sit next to one in Science and am really good friends with the other, so I'm caught in the middle I don't even know why it happened the two people were just like "I don't like you!" "Well I don't like you either!" Aaaaand beef was born help me
The biggest drama i've gotten in with my friends is what PS4 game are we gonna play next lol Okay so ngl i don't watch MLP anymore but this video is great uwu
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Thank you guys so much for the patience between videos! I was having a bunch of issues, including but not limited to Computer issues, availability, and other such issues ^^; I have a much better set up now, that should allow me to produce videos more often ^^;
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Take your time when making videos, we can wait
So true XD
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Tyandaga, what about the ToonKritic Drama? I feel like you forgot that in your drama video.
That drama is old, I think that everyone wants to move on from that.
"To be, or to not be; that, that right there, is the answer."
- Tyandaga, 2018
Can we get this on a t-shirt please?
*_"To be, or to not be; that, that right there, is the answer."_* - Tyangada 2018
Just last year, I had to deal with the worst drama I've ever had in my entire life. I posted an artwork for a fandom I really enjoyed on my old DeviantArt account and got a bizarre comment. The person said that they really loved the piece and would should it to their brother when they woke up. I ended up reading a little too much into what they said and asked them what they meant, and they responded that their brother was in a coma. I shared my sympathy for their situation and, feeling empathetic towards them, offered to help them any way that I could. I didn't really expect them to take advantage of my generosity and soon found myself being pulled deeper and deeper into their situation. Before I knew it, I had their entire family following me and constantly messaging me. Being the kind of person who finds it difficult to say no to someone in need, I even ended up agreeing to do a project with them. It wasn't too bad at first, but the more and more time went on, the more clinging and demanding they became of me. On a day that I was not on the site because I had so many other things I wanted/needed to do that day, it was their birthday and they became furious with me for not wishing them a happy birthday. I didn't even know it was their birthday yet I apologized and explained the situation to them, only for them to remain angry at me. They soon became angry at me for not responding to messages right away and, when I expressed my need for space, they were absolutely infuriated with me. Soon after, I started receiving messages of the brother who was in a coma (who had woken up) had run off and was on a "killing spree". He'd send me kill counts and it was really freaking me out. I begged them to leave me alone and to stop what they were doing. I threatened to block them when the brother suddenly revealed that his "killing spree" was just a prank. I was so infuriated with him and told him off about his stupidity. My family actually had to call the police about the situation but they couldn't do anything since the owner of the account was from the other side of the world. I wasted no time in blocking the entire family but soon after got a message from a friend who revealed that the entire family was actually one guy. I had never been so outraged with anyone in my life. I had given so much help and kindness, thinking that this was a family in need, only to discover that it was one jerk who wanted to play with my feelings. I thanked the friend but, wanting to be careful that it wasn't the same guy trying to get back at me, blocked the friend. I thought it was all over and done with, but started getting contacted by people who watched our project or followed the person, informing me that they were being harassed by the person to talk to me about unblocking them. I explained the situation to them and they all felt horrible about what I was going through, promising to no longer watch the person and to block them. The last person to contact me about it said that the cousin of the person who had deceived me wrote a journal that the person had committed suicide after what had happened and blamed me for the whole thing, saying all these horrible things about me that weren't even true. That was the last straw. I deleted my account and moved to a new one, not wanting to put up with his lies any longer. Knowing what a liar the person was, I bet he was only pretending to be a cousin and lied about his death. But if by some chance it is true, they have no right to blame me for anything. I was the victim of the situation, falling into their trap of lies and dragged through absolute torture because they had filled me with guilt that I should not have felt. When my dad talked to me about the situation, he warned me about people called "emotional predators". As he explained them to me, they are people who make you feel things that you should not feel and will guilt trip you whenever possible, making you feel responsible for their troubles and force you into situations for their amusement. I NEVER want to have to go through that ever again! I ended up having to carry my Pikachu plushie everywhere I went with me because I was so worried that the person might try and come after me! It was my little security "blanket" throughout the whole thing. I still sometimes cling to it whenever I get scared about the whole thing. It's been a year now since the whole thing but I'm still worried about it. All that I have left to say is "be careful of who you meet online".
Holy text wall. But wow that sounds awful.
So remember, kids: where it's your place, try to stand up for yourself. Many people who claim to be in a tragic situation, especially on the internet, will try to guilt trip you into doing things for them (especially making art for them, from what I hear), so keep skeptical and if they get angry with you do your best to tell them why you're not at fault so they can understand. If they're just not listening, blocking is a good way to go.
I hope you don't have to face anything like that again, Midnight. By the way, did you resume talking to your friend after it all passed?
Uh, the only "friend" I made in that time was the lying jerk, so there's no way I'd continue talking to him. I pretty much blocked everyone who brought up that discuss before moving to a new account just to be safe in case it was him again. What he did to me left me so paranoid, I couldn't even trust anyone who knew about the situation in fear that it was him again trying to sneak his way back into my life.
Awful doesn't even begin to explain what it was like . . . I was down-right petrified!
I was referring to the friend who told you it was all one guy.
Oh, well, he wasn't actually my friend. He said he was a friend of the liar. I was really worried that it might be the same guy or that he'd start threatening me like his friend did, so I blocked him. The friend actually asked me to unblock the liar and his family. He asked nicely, but I wasn't willing to put up with any more of the drama. I was way too nervous to let anyone else involved try to befriend me after that. If that friend did somehow find me again and wanted to make friends with me, I'd probably still turn him down. I'm just not over what happened yet and I'm not ready to trust anyone involved in the drama. I probably will never be. I have some anxiety issues so I just try to avoid whatever makes me feel uncomfortable whenever possible so that it doesn't get too bad. I am willing to face my problems when I have no other choice, but it's not very healthy for me.
In some weird way, you are the perfect person to talk about this.
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Sadly, in the fandom I'm in, drama isn't really caused by miscommunications, but by bullying. By believing in different things, whether that belief is right or wrong. I wish this would stop, it's not healthy. And not being overly emotional is very hard too, because of events that have happened that literally tore this fandom apart.
A lot of fandoms are sadly like that, there is usually a group of people that believe that their opinion is the one and only good one and I've seen a lot of people being straight up bullied and yelled at for disagreeing with someone, a lot of people seem to be so immature it's sad :(
SPYRONINE um i dont think its undertale...... that drama doesn't happen in that fandom...actually bearly any drama happens except for the haters of Undertale and ships
So..... Basically like politics?
When it comes to drama, I think a good habit is to stay civil, but put fact before feelings. I've been involved in a fair share of drama, like half of this comment section. My most recent and impactful experience was, like most of my problems, my fault for allowing to happen. I want to make the distinction that while I did nothing wrong in the moment, I made a mistake that made this possible. For half a year, I talked with and tried to help out depressed people. I'm not a psychiatrist or whatever, and I definitely wasn't in a healthy state of mind doing this. Eventually, though, my own depression vanished, almost like it was never there, but the same couldn't be said for a few of my friends. There was one girl who adored me, and I had been comforting her and allowing her to be as close as she pleased, which I didn't mind a ton. She did have feelings for me, though, and that was frustrating. The problem with me almost exclusively being with her was that I was sacrificing my mental health and my existing friendships for her needs. I did my best to make it clear to her that I simply wanted to be loyal to my group of friends, and that I'd still talk to her often. She seemed to be encouraging and understanding, but within maybe a week or two, she was sending accusatory texts about how I didn't care. Twice, I had to confront her, talk to her, and make up, hugs and all, but it didn't amount to anything. The texts still came, and I finally gave in and retaliated. I wish I hadn't, because that damaged our chances of being friends again, but it was a good decision to leave entirely. Sometimes, you have to be merciless. Not like cruel, but you have to put feelings aside and deal in truths. The important lesson I learned, and tried to convey to her, is that feelings are subjective, and anything can hurt you if you misinterpret what someone is saying or doing.
I do have a bit of a positive ending, though. When me and this girl had finally broke off connections, her best friend had, at first, despised me, even up until a couple months ago. But I think my level-headedness and friendliness warmed me up to her, and in May, she was willing to talk to me like a friend would. She was joking around and all... and just a month prior, she wouldn't even refer to me as a human. Hopefully, that first girl and I can make the same progress.
This might've turned into a rant, cos I don't remember what I started with, but I hope someone can learn something from this.
One thing in fandoms that causes a LOT of drama..........
S H I P P I N G. XD
YASS
In the Voltron fandom, definitely. I don't think it's an issue in the MLP fandom, but in the former... yikes.
The SmartAleck holy cow the Voltron fandom is the most toxic fandom for shipping it’s crazy. I can’t even make a plance edit on Instagram implying why I believe it might be canon without getting attacked by a bunch of klancers
Drama gets harder to handle when one side refuses to be reasonable or even listen to other viewpoints.
Usually when I'm in an argument, I'm mostly thinking *"Don't prove them wrong, let themselves be proven wrong"*. This quote coincidentally doesn't work with me, I'm always wrong.
Logically that must mean you are wrong again. ;)
Somehow I end up dragged into Drama and I'm just the quiet art person
That's me when I'm on stage I start freaking out and stutter a whole lot... It sucks
Thats everyone on stage
It's also worth addressing when the "drama" is between you and someone with authority over you. Let's say, not-so-hypothetically, you're on a discord server you enjoy taking part in, but the owner is being unfair to you and not seeming to acknowledge that they are being so. You have to keep in mind that trying to explain to them that they're being unfair could get you kicked out of the server, and keeping things brief, as hard as it may be and however much it leaves you internally salty afterwards, is definitely safer option in terms of staying on the server. At least, that's what I did.
I really liked how you defined drama.
Also, remember that a simple miscommunication can lead to as much as centuries of imprisonment in limbo if you are unfortunate enough... let's just not go there.
Yaaaaay Some one talking about the drama & ways to handle it peacefully. Thanx for tackling that TyanDega
Sometimes when drama strikes, you gotta cut toxic people loose. Not over any little thing... but there's a limit, and sometimes you need to put your hoof down and cut your losses.
Hallo again!
So, Drama. I actually know small and big scale drama from my time online. I find the best thing to do with it is try to reach out to them and reach the common ground, and if they ignore it, well, you did your best. Don't get too beat up on it if ya fail, cuz for each person out there that's hostile, there is one more that is friendly.
Tyandaga posted a video!
*clicking intensifies*
It’s good to have a friend who’s willing to be a lighting bolt and clear up drama in friendships, like me. I’ve had my fair share of drama and you just got to be patient with the two feuding friends and find different ways to mend the friendship, I’ve also been apart of drama with one of my friends and we had to teach him/her a lesson about how he/she should treat others that his/her behavior shouldn’t be tolerated nor be encouraged, this was a risky move on our part but talking to him/her wasn’t cutting it. He/her learned his/her lesson.
I had a "friend" and her favorite hobby was causing drama, and I got so tired of her bullcrap that I stopped talking to her all together, and I'm actually very happy that I cut her out of my life, because she was also extremely toxic and manipulative, why did I write this? I don't know… This video just got me thinking :3
I’m a drama queen 👸🏻 but sometimes my family and friends get little bit annoyed with me. And btw Ty, I’m not Canadian I’m Filipino but I understand that you’re proud of your country and I am too. And I might comment again because I am a bit of a chatterbox which is one o my oc’s bad character traits because I was worried that I would create a Mary Sue as my personal oc. Which is why I watch your videos and channel! You said in your other video, *I pretend to be you to quote this* “If I didn’t ever watch channels like Dr Wolf, Silver Quill, and Mad Munchkin, I would have never *remembers line you said* *forgets* whatever! This is feedback and sharing, not sentimental nonsense! (But the reason why I shared the thing you said in the other video is because I can relate. You are the Dr Wolf, or Silver Quill, or Mad Munchkin to me.) And yes I do understand your issues and problem stuff so I get why you don’t make much content nowadays. Or maybe it’s because mlp fim is over? Well, idk. But I do know that your channel is awesome and (only if you can), you should start making more content again. Thanks for reading! (If Tyandaga actually sees this comment, OMG 😆 I am a fan!)
Although... what do you do, when you do all of this, understand the person you wronged, what you did wrong, and even willing to saying sorry and they were right calmly, but has no result from the other, what then?
Yes I saw the end, but recently i pissed off one of my best and oldest friends over something’s meant as a gift that went horrible wrong, and they won’t even give me the time of day
Did that the other day. Long story short, I 'disrespected' someone by rebooting their forum and blocking them and their friends for an issue that was completely unrelated. A few days later, the forum was going great. Then, they came on and demanded that I took down the forum because I had blocked them. I didn't understand why they were so offended. What I did, I'm not proud of, but it's all I could do. I explained to them that I was very sorry for what I did and didn't realise they had taken it so personally, and I should have been more considerate and perhaps explained the issue to them. They replied with: 'If you're really sorry, get your head out of your ass and delete every post on this forum, you spineless piece of sh*t. I'm not leaving until justice is served and you've learnt your lesson.' I tried to explain that two other people were roleplaying and enjoying it, but they got more and more angry and sweary, and they brought their friend along to harass me too. Eventually, I spent a little over half an hour in tears, deleting every single post in the forum. I had blocked the people before, as advised, but they made alternative accounts and harassed me even more because of it. After I deleted the forum, I left my phone alone for a few minutes to cry, and when I came back on I was flooded with sympathetic messages, most asking me what was wrong, since I had posted a status update saying that I now knew what cyber-bullying was. I feel a lot better now, because I'm not alone anymore. I no longer feel like I want to die. That's good.
One of other thing to keep in mind is if a situation does not involve you (even if your close friends with those involved), DO NOT get involved. And if you are asked to get involved, try not to. A few times, I've actually been asked to get involved in incidents and have said no for the most part, even though I'd back it up by giving a different solution.
I have never been asked to get involved in anything serious but people in my class have the feeling to get me to resolve arguments about nothing. It is hilarious what some people argue over.
Thank you now I will now know how to deal with drama! I appreciate this video and I'm glad you're back
(Sadly) An important video.
Good job, Tyandaga. :)
I completely agree with this video, and it feels like this video has been speaking my mind. Fandom Drama in my opinion is the worst. I honestly do think it's worse in some fandoms than others though. For example, I for the life of me cannot stand the Star Wars fanbase right now, and the drama is exactly why. It seems like most of the Star Wars fans I see these days have a "If you don't share my exact same opinion as me, then you're not a true fan" mentality and will bully anyone who shares an opinion that isn't their own, since they always see their opinion on each Star Wars movie as fact. I am so sick of reading comments of people online talking about whether or not they liked The Last Jedi, and then ending up in a war zone with other fans because some people decide to bully and insult him just for having an opinion. It's actually surprisingly hard to find someone who has a different opinion to me about The Last Jedi, and having them actually be civil about it. I have a TH-cam channel where I publically review movies, and yet to this day I still haven't reviewed it, and the extremely toxic fanbase is exactly why. It's not just me either. Star Wars fans became so relentless on George Lucas on the prequels that he decided he didn't want to make any more Star Wars movies and gave it to Disney instead cause he had enough with the fandom's crap. The fanbase is so toxic it's literally making me like Star Wars as a franchise less because of it. Star Wars is honestly dying in my eyes, but The Last Jedi has nothing to do with it, considering I absolutely loved The Last Jedi. What's killing the franchise for me isn't the movies, it's the toxicity of the fandom. Anyone else agree with me?
So what do you do when someone is spreading rumors and falsehoods about you or someone you care about, and they both refuse to stop and admit what they're saying isn't true?
I've known a few people who just thrive on bringing other people down.
Avoidance is generally the best policy, putting as much distance between them and you, even if it means no longer being friends with friends who are also connected to those people.
Or you go the other route and fight back against them, but then be forewarned if you don't win, and win so well that it stops them. Then its just going to continue and be worse. Since you just painted a giant target on yourself.
Report and block when you can. Spread the news and call it a day.
Tell the the truth about the person who spread the rumours to everyone they told
Awesomeness.
This is a great explanation of drama and what to do. There's too many irrational dramatic choices people make to try and stay on top. Keep up the amazing work!
I've seen my share of drama, over the years. Be it personal drama with worrying if my shunt will malfunction and I would have to endure ANOTHER operation (I've had six in my life, so far.) Drama with finding my place in the world and especially drama within my favorite fandoms.
The two biggest places I've seen drama happen came from the Steven Universe and MLP Fandoms.
HOWEVER...in spite of it all; I remained a loyal member of both, to this day. Why and how...because I think of a simple phrase, should such moments arise.
"One tree does not make a forest."
Simply put, just because ONE person or group of persons you know of causes waves within your clique. It shouldn't cause you to destroy your ties with the people you're with.
For example; not long ago, I saw a video by Rhys Davies Channel. One of him proclaiming he has officially ended his Roundup series. Going on to say that both the series has become boring (something I myself have yet to feel) and that the actions of a Brony have caused far too much drama for him.
Now, I fully respect his decision to leave. There is so much a person can withstand, after all. But as I said, one tree does not make a whole forest.
Just because one person caused some sour behavior in a group. It shouldn't destroy the goodness the majority has together. I'll forever enjoy looking at the content, stories, art, videos, etc of this fandom until the end.
Because it has brought me more joy than the drama has brought me bitterness.
But that's just me
Where was this video when I was first starting to be an active internet denizen? This is so helpful and straight forward, I love this. Thanks for this Ty, this is great stuff.
This was so helpful to me. Thank you very much, Tyandaga. Drama is something I go through all the time it is the bane of my existence. It is so difficult for me to get along with other people. I try my best to be nice. However I make mistakes that tick people off. It is bad enough to be a dysfunctional outcast. It is a struggle. I do appreciate the help. The one thing that I am good at is having a thick skin. I don't get upset easily. It would help to have that. I can stay calm in arguments. I have my limits though. Too much drama can be downright toxic, and it ruins my mental health.
Great video, I agree that no one should feel like they need to win the argument but people do feel the need to do that and I think "why bother, you're just wasting your breath"
I'm not much of an mlp fan, but your videos have such great points that can relate generally and not specifically mlp. I just love your style of videos and your advice helps a whole lot. I like that you use iconic characters to assist on how you get your point across as well.
You are entertaining, people like your content and you inspire smaller channels. This is why I enjoy to listen to what you wish to say.
Yay Ty is back!
This really needs more views, it would really help with the toxic parts of fandom's ^_^
Wow I haven't watch one of your videos in ages(no personal reason, just fell out of love with the pony show) but your video quality has very greatly improved. Im glad you continued to grow. 👍
You know, I'm glad that you're covering real life issues. I haven't seen this from a brony TH-camr before, but this is really uniqe, and pretty great advice. Thanks :-)
Yay! A new Ty video!
U right. I hate being a part of it, but it's awesome being the spectator.
It’s really refreshing to see such a neutral party comment on this. Either people are highly negative and want to make out that drama is a pathetic
Immature thing to partake in, and never realising that drama doesn’t start that way often, or they’re overly eager to stir the pot and make things worse. This was a very mature and thoughtful video.
Luckily, none of my friends is having a state of mind of discussing everything in a drama way.
My ex-bffs used to always start fights for no reason and now i have depression and im suicidal yay! I really had great friends
His antlers have the right attitude!
And he has answers.
You're alright man 🤙🧡
This is a really good video, drama can be everywhere in life or in a story (if written right)
Sigh! If it was so easy to convince people.
Today, many drama in the fandom can go haywire. :(
love your presentation, pretty fluid :3
5:15 tyandaga jumpscare warning
"Or someone said something offensive to someone else"
*laughs in that one roblox drama*
I had a issue with a fellow artist they were upset about the pose in the picture I drew as it was similar to theirs so I apologised and offered to take my art work off my page, being positive and nice about it they responded just as nice and we worked out a solution to the problem and no shots were fired, great vid and advice ty
Ah yes, Drama. Great in the Theater, downright nightmare anywhere else ;w; Great Video Ty. ^^
This video is, very meaningful and helpful. Thanks!
its nice how you address this. usually people dont discuss this at all and seem like they are right at all times.
Hope you practice what you preach as well ty! hang in there.
Drama in a nutshell: Who cares what lives get ruined by it, if it makes us money, we'll keep doing it.
Just like politics.
I’m at the center of my friends drama and I hate it. ( Two of my friends hate each other)
Daizy74 have you figured out why they hate each other?
Bl00dR3ap3r They have a grudge on each other and they keep bringing up the same few points and I can’t get any other information
Daizy74 it might be more of a pride thing then. But I’ve been in that situation before. I just told them that i was going to be friends with both of them regardless of how they felt for the other friend. If it gets to much maybe tell them to leave you out of it till they are ready to try and get past it.
Same ;-;
Bl00dR3ap3r I’ve tried but it’s hard because one of them I my closest friend and she get angry with me every time I try
The best thing to do about the whole drama thing is to try to ignore it. I’ve dealt with drama at least a few times and it’s not fun obviously. If it’s got anything to do with family or something like that then I can see that, it’s different for everyone. And getting bullied on this fandom I’m part of doesn’t necessarily help.
Cute deer oc, fun enthusiastic voice, deer is extra thicc! 10/10 would watch again!
Ohhh that explains why I like fighting (not the physical type of fighting xD) with other people so much... I'm weird🤔...
Space Dorito A combination of both, actually. That makes it even weirder now that I think of it...
Meh. Some people just like to argue....Personally I cn never be far enough away from these people, but you do you.
For me there is drama in the fandoms Im part of is when there is a new season,character ,a new possible ship or some huge plot twist
I know that this video has 2 years now, but have you read the four agreements (and the fifth agreement)? It's all about a way of living in society to don't get hurt, understand yourself and the others. There is some summaries on the web if you are interested, and this can help avoiding drama easily. (Why does the educations systems not talk about this, knowing how to live in society is cucial)
Amazing
When wasn't there drama?! Half of the fandom is the reason why my MLP project is so damn late!
Couldnt of said it better myself! And very relateable as too. I had my far share of stuff like this happen. And sometimes sadly walking away from it is all you can do no matter how close you are or was with the person.
Poniezzzz. Nice video. I like the fact that bronies are(for the most part) pretty well versed in amicable human relationships because for better of for worse the show is getting into our skin with positive attitudes. What you are talking about are exceptions i am pretty sure but because the most vocal exceptions are the ones that stand out it sometimes feels that it's worse and way more broad than it actually is the case.
This information was very helpful, thanks for it.
Dear lord I wish that we would all be so much more civil when it comes down to things like shippings and all... Once people get their minds set on a pair, nobody listens to what others’ opinions are - even if they’re being calm and respectful about the whole thing. I despise one of the largest pairings in another fanbase simply because of character handling reasons and numerous other things...yet voicing my opinion in a room with a large number of people in that fan base would get me shot almost IMMEDIATELY due to how prevalent that pairing is and how popular it is. I suppose every fandom will have its naval battles, but currently none are as hectic as the ones involving that pairing and someone with a logical reason to dislike it.
Kind of funny you upload a video about this subject as I'm writing a fanfic about the same exact subject, just a specific example. The fic is called The Refugee Club.
1:27 so every episode of mlp? so I'm nearly 6 mins in, slow start, but the video seems to be told from a optimal stand point. A best case scenario.
I notice you get close to no dislikes and that surprises me! I see people with a fair amount of dislikes as likes but you? You impress me! I wish I could animation like you. ;-;
How to avoid drama 101
1. Don't let things get under your skin
2.just be nice
2.5. Get drunk and have a knock out drag out fight
3. Laugh at the drama when it's over with.
This is why I don't get evolved in ship wars.
It's because I like knowing the other person's perspective of a ship and why they do or don't ship it. I just see myself as a understanding person and I like being a understanding person it just feels right.
it still amaze me that people still don't know how to properly apologize.
When my fiance and I are arguing about something and one of us starts to lose control, we will walk away, separate ourselves for a few hours/days and then come back and talk about it. I call that moment when we walk away, our "cool down" time.
Ah TH-cam drama where people in the wrong seems to win unless there being killed by idubbz then almost every time it's the person that did mess up things that wins unless the Community itself knows when someone is in the wrong.
basically me
People getting upset about things they really shouldn't be upset about is honestly quite funny.
I deal with drama at school, but it’s about my friends. And it is damaging for me. Because of Drama, I’m sad all the time.
My experience is that the vast majority of drama on the internet is being perpetrated by shallow selfish manipulative people. It's almost never a case of a simple misunderstanding. These are people who just seem to thrive on manipulating others to prop up their own ego.
Twilights wing at 1:23 xddd
Your eyes remind me of derpy the go wall eyes sometimes I like it
Also I maybe made like the third comments Mosst usually after a drama someone gains or losses followers subscribers whatever social media website they're using
I've never known much drama in the fandom....but then i dont know how to contact them...ok i know some bronies on my facebook but still
Drama spreads fast.Just yesterday I got into a drama because they thought i was a tracer without evidence..
Very nice talk
It's weird how a week ago I posted a video talking about drama in the LPS community, which spawned from a video of one of its members talking about both the LPS & Animation community.
Paying it forward, perhaps?
Oh dang... This video woulda been really useful yesterday.
In this fandom, no drama was more well documented than Too...
*Mysterious events occur*
I've never had drama come to me before in the fandom but I have seen tons from those I follow on Instagram.
Ranging from someone simply having an oc with the same name as another oc to colour schemes and it's quite ridicilous
There's MASSIVE beef/drama going on in my friendship group
One girl even SELF-HARMED (one of the two main people in the beef) because of it
I sit next to one in Science and am really good friends with the other, so I'm caught in the middle
I don't even know why it happened the two people were just like
"I don't like you!"
"Well I don't like you either!"
Aaaaand beef was born
help me
where is the best place to connect with other members of the fandom? i’m having a hard time finding other MLP fans ono
He makes this this stuff sound SOOOO simple
Inner Canadian...
That was most likely the moment when canadians either snapped or laughed their peaceful asses off.
*so, "TL;DR -> FNGR" ?*
;''3
(both regarding drama and "doing it right" alike)
"I used to think my life was a Drama. Now I realize it's a Romance"
I usually find that when you are face to face you use less drama. So I keep thinking like am am With them personally even when contacting on line.
Ty what's your favourite cookie?
How ironic. I just had to deal with a whole bunch of petty stuff a few days ago.
this is very helpful! im sure its gonna help a lot of people including me. thanks or this video
I wold say I'm not big into the MLP fandom, but I have a cat named Celestia.
The biggest drama i've gotten in with my friends is what PS4 game are we gonna play next lol
Okay so ngl i don't watch MLP anymore but this video is great uwu