D2836/8 1100KV POWERPLANT TESTING - "The Workhorse"
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- On the spreadsheet linked below is a complete listing of all the findings of this testing, as well as some powerplant combinations tested previously:
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This is the workhorse of the Experimental Airlines fleet, used on more of my aircraft designs than any other motor. It is great for models in the range of 700-1200g AUW. It's moderate KV rating gives it a good blend of efficiency and power.
I have used this with props of 8-11" diameter and pitches from 3.8-6. It has a surprisingly good specific thrust (thrust per watt consumed) with certain propeller choices. For lower-speed planes the 11x4 Master Airscrew gets my vote as the favorite, with the maximum thrust of 1300g produced at a very respectable 5 grams per watt. This was my selection for the J*SCOTT STOL cargo dropping plane I built for FliteTest. I would use a 10x6 as an all-around prop choice.
This motor is $12 as of mid-2013 and is tested with the Turnigy Plush 40a ESC. Any reliable ESC of 25a rating or up is good. The Turnigy Plush 40a has a 3a switching BEC and so is good for models with 5-6 9g servos, with a reasonable reserve. My other choices would be the Turnigy Plush 30a or TY-P1 "HEXFET" ESCs.
Note the electric "specific thrust" for each power scenario as expressed as the grams of thrust per electrical watt. This is a good benchmark for comparing the efficiency of different motor and propeller combinations. 4 grams per watt is considered pretty good. Over 5 grams per watt is excellent. By comparison EDFs are often in the 1.5g/w range.
Turnigy D2836/8 1100KV motor
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Turnigy PLUSH 40a ESC
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Turnigy PLUSH 30a ESC (not tested here but known to work well)
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Turnigy TY-P1 "HEXFET" 25-30a ESC
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MASTER AIRSCREW propellers
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Turnigy Nano-Tech 3S battery packs
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Thanks for taking the time Ed, I sure appreciate it.
I just picked up a pair of these a couple weeks ago and your vid took all the guesswork out of string these up. Thanks again for all your efforts, Ed. My fly buddies are getting hooked on all your informative videos just as i have. My Synapse is ready for maiden and my Noob needs the motor balanced and mounted. Hopefully i'll have a couple more vids to upload in a week or two. ~peace!
Awesome stuff! Thank you for doing the research and sharing! That stand is impressive.
Thank you so much for going through the trouble of making this video, I ended up buying 2 of them and the spreadsheet is incredibly helpful!
Using this for Nerf application. You are very thorough sir. Much appreciated
Your effort here is greatly appreciated. I hope you do more with that set up. Please add two more columns; a motor weight and of course power to weight.
Wow, so you recorded all those for each test and the variation is just the different weather conditions for each test day.
Found the calculator and played around a bit, thanks.
first time to know why it is called 2836 .... although I use it in all my recent quadcopters ... it is a great motor ... also the motor mount is a bit weak, and this it very good, because it protects the shaft from bending when crashs happens in my quad..... great video ... many thanks.
Excellent work, thanks for the detailed spreadsheet.
Thanks Ed on the mark as always
thanks alot for the vid and spreadsheet. i use this motors but never got ard to testing it.
Love this motor and the whole Turnigy XP line, I own 3 of these, 2 of the 2826 2200kv, and the monster 3548 1100kv one. I have found my favorite prop for this particular motor to be a 10x6 apc prop running on 3s.
Great video, keep building the database is all i can say! Very useful to have some real world figures.
Yes it's definitely a possibility. The thrust angle thing is good for solid launches but if overdone it can affect the stability of flight. If you want you can PM me and we can share photos or a chat to help you sort it out. Some additional nose weight for first flights can never hurt until you get it trimmed right.
Great video! i've been searching for this exakt motor and esc info for awhile
Thanks Ed, must have been very time consuming. This info is very handy... I'm using your recommendation on my tricopter to upgrade from DT750 to these...
thanks Ed another great vid and thanks for spreadsheet
It's a great question but not too hard to compute with an online calculator. Density altitude takes into account the atmospheric barometric pressure, altitude, temperature, and humidity to calculate how dense the air is and compares it to the "standard" air density at a certain altitude. The less dense the air the less lift a plane has and the less thrust the powerplant will have. At sea level, cool and dry air = more thrust. At high elevation and hot temperature = less thrust.
Thanks for the vid, just the info I was looking for!
What prop would you recommend when running 4S packs?
I understand now, thank you. I did not test with a 3-bladed prop but it would look very cool. I might suggest an 8x6 3-bladed prop, though I am sorry I do not have test results for it.
Thank you , I 've a question. I try to mount a Skywalker X8. But i need to put on it about a 3500grm . I select this complement. 2 battery 5s 5800mAh, MT2526-8 /550KV ) Porpeller foldable 12x7. Is OK this selection or you recommend other one?
lol;-) Ed is because sometimes the translator fails! what he meant was:
If you did test this engine for 3 bladed propeller (3 Blades) I would like to use two of these but with bladed because it is a semi-scale plane (Canadair CL415). By the way so you know I'm finishing the Photon but my intention was to make all its models ...;-)
Again thank you for everything Congrats and thank you;-)
Bom trabalho! Obrigado!
Estou à espera que chegue da HobbyKing:
- 10,77 € - Turnigy D2836/8 1100KV Brushless Outrunner Motor (EU warehouse)
- 5,71 € - TURNIGY BESC Programming Card (EU warehouse)
- 2,72 € - Slow Fly Electric Prop 1045 SF (4 pc - Green) (EU warehouse)
- 2,72 € - Slow Fly Electric Prop 1045R SF RH Rotation (4 pc) (EU warehouse)
(YES, it's for a quad.)
Votos de bons voos.
(SIM, de PORTUGAL.)
can this motor handle 10x7 prop?? on 3S
Great video, very proffecional well done!!!
Can you also repeat the test but for a 4s battery..?
You are encouraged to download and customize the spreadsheet however you like. You can add the the weight and power to weight ratio (though I think that's more relevant to the whole aircraft) and delete the rows you don't want. The data is all there, just find what is useful to you and ignore the rest.
Thanks, appreciate all the great information you have shared! I've learned a lot from your videos...
The specs for this motor on the HK site can't be correct. In fact my D2836/8 motors came with a spec sheet that has 6, 7, 9, and 11 listed, but not the 8.
Assuming the 8 must fall in between the 7 and 9 and it is likely about a 300w motor. The amperage would calculate to the following, based on 3s battery: 300w/11.1v=27a
And if using a 4s you would not want to exceed 20.2a: 300w/14.8v=20.2a
Great motor though, I can see why it's your "workhorse". I bought them for the FT Sea Duck I'll be building, and I'm sure I'll buy more.
Thanks for your info.
I need new motor, something like emax GT2215/09, Is this a good choice?
What do you mean in the chart "power settings" min , max , low
Can't edit the post. Thanks You Tube! The study found GWS and Master Airscrew with design problems that led to much more inefficient props than other manufacturers.
I bent the shaft on this motor and it appears Hobby King doesn't have a replacement available, any ideas where I could find a replacement?
Great video Ed, when is the next challenge?
Ed, I picked up one of these from HK the other day, but they were out of the 10x5 props, so I went with a 9x6, figuring I would only be losing a little power. Would this motor and prop combo be appropriate for a Synapse with a light FPV setup?
Hi, nice video and very informative like most of your videos. i just wanted to say a small tip about parallel connection of your batteries. if the voltage isn't exactly the same then there is potential difference so i'm not sure if it's good for LiPo's. any information about that would be appreciated
Greats test again. Can you explain the density altitude column? All I can think of is that you were doing the tests at different altitudes but that makes no sense.
Obrigado por suas amáveis palavras. Estou perdendo a tradução de "tripa" em Portugeuse. Você pode tentar uma palavra diferente? Talvez você quer dizer a nacele do motor? Se for assim eu poderia usar uma pequena garrafa plástica de 500ml. Eu usei uma vez uma garrafa de 2l de um modelo muito maior escala do Skyvan. Deixe-me saber se eu posso ajudar
Can this motor handle a 10x7 Or a 11x6 Prop? (3S)
Ciao da ITALIA
i need info about props/LiPos type....
I've a ASW28 from FlyFly and i convert it into electric glider....this is a motor i've at home ... may i use it ??
If yes.... preferred combination with Prop (typology) and LiPo (N. cells) .... naturally with folding prop....
GRAZIE
would this work in a flying wing 54inch 20oz what would be a good prop on a 3cell
Are a Master Airscrew 8x4 and a SlowFly 8x3.8 nearly the same?
Good day ed,
Im using the same motor with 9x5 prop 40mps esc, do your motor get hot that you cant touch it for 5 seconds after 1minute of full throttle?
Is it normal or is there something wrong with my motor?
im having the same issue running a 10x4.5 , dont seem to be getting the same thrust and it gets hot. running it on an AUW 800g and i cant pull up vertifcally. plane also doesnt get very fast....
ive just switched prop just incase it was the CW prop i had gotten.
have you got the prop on the right way? numbers should face direction of flight
Pretty close, and in my opinion neither of these props really gets the full power capabilities of this motor.
could ya help me out i have a 30 oz ugly stick wing is flat 29 inch x 8.5 cord running a 3cell 40c trying 9. 47 but dont get alot of fly time and it has lot of power could ya help me out ..
Olá Ed obrigado pela partilha e parabéns pelo seu trabalho, qual a hélice tripa que se poderia utilizar com este motor você fez algum teste ? Tenho um avião de carga e queria utilizar 2 destes mas queria utilizar hélices tripa é uma semi escala ... Obrigado e mais uma vez Parabéns desde PORTUGAL ;-)
what are your thoughts on using this motor on a delta with 11x4 prop? Will it break on landing?
Have you ever reversed the motor shaft on this motor? Read a that a guy did it to put on Phoenix 2000 motor glider (what I'm doing) and he didn't mention needing to cut a second C clip ring on the shaft. So I assume/hope it has a second C clip ring internally and I can file a another flat on the other end for the bell's set screw.
Man i wish i could get my synapse to fly...lol...i think i have to much down thrust angle on my motor mount....would that cause the plane to nose up hard and act tail heavy...?
Mais uma coisa,
o que acha dos motores Sunnysky V2216-12 800KV e X2212 980kv II?
Super....Thanx....:)))
Posso usar esc de 30?
1200gram is that the waight with batt
DYS brushless outrunner motor 1100kv
In an airplane, you must put a propeller that can be used at maximum acceleration during the entire time that the battery lasts. Without the motore getting hotter. Usually this happens around 70% of No Load speed. less than that is just a coffee heater.
Testing a propeller for just a few seconds does not tell us that the propeller is viable.
You always have to get the number of rpm and the efficiency. An motore whose viable propeller is a 10x5 APC may work well for a few seconds with a 15x8. since this test tells us nothing. In other words, I don't agree with your testing method. aeromodelismoelectrico.blogspot.com/search/label/Propulsores
'setting' these up... not 'string'
I fly at the park you are flying at
THE TROUBLE WITH "HOBBYKING" is that everything is out of stock tomorrow! and the references your giving are worthless! it is 8/22/20 and certainly you can say its 7 years later what do you expect but i have seen it in under 3 years. and surprisingly this is a "name" brand model and is probaby not being made any more to begin with.
Please do more testing but show less.
The only entries that should be highlighted are maximums.
-- best prop for maximum static thrust for a given battery
-- best prop for maximum efficiency for a given battery
-- best prop for maximum watts for a given battery.
and of course, "if" you can afford it, the prop that burn out the motor after 15 seconds.
Booooooring!