ive had the honor of diving kamloops, what an adventure and thanks for the upload this footage is incredible...lots of lore surrounds this wreck.....shes on her starboard side and is 200 ft down.....tec dive for me and it was soooo cold and scary......saw two bodies during my dive to her stern and there are more trapped in the bow end..one is in the engine room and one is one of the 2 women stewardess lost at sea(the other womans body was found w a few other sailors frozen marooned on an tiny little island not far from the sinking months later)...there is a memorial headstone ive seen pictures of commemorated to the crew on the island....whiteys body is in this video thats the white mass at 2:00 you see in the engine room tangled in the catwalk...gives me chills seeing this footage.....my instructor said the body is like soap and if you look close his wedding ring is still on his hand but i kept my distance...his desk chair is floating behind him up on the upper level of the engine room...lot of treasure divers have been down there messing with him and some of the wreckage has literaly been chained down by the nps to keep people from stealing souveniers....when you first descend the line attached to her stern you are right near the engine room and its the easiest place to enter the wreckage....so ya see him right away and get the tragic impact.....it is a gravesite afterall however a time capsule to be explored.....cool footage of the lifesavers.....tons of em down there....candys disolved but the rolls are still intact as they were in 1927......florshiem shoes,wheelbarrows,chicken fence and disc brake are all down there still in the cargo holds....so enlightening thanks again
@@cyberash3000 I've read some ghoul already swiped it. I'd leave it on his hand,as his last thoughts were likely his beloved who he was trying to get home to....
The thing about Old Whitey that scares me is that you look at this guy looking like some statue of play-dough and then you realize something haunting: You realize that Old Whitey is an actual dead body that has been floating around since 1927 and you not only feel awful looking at it, you feel awful for what this poor lad went through ❤️
excellent photography. I read a book by Jacque Costeau years ago. He was diving during the war on a german vessel and felt something touch his back. He turned round and it was a german in uniform, who was being pulled along with Jacques current. He was shocked !
2:02 that be old Whitey. A body thats been on the ship since it went down. Nobody really knows whose body it is but its said that it will follow divers around. Remains preserved and intact due to the cold water and lack of life on the lake bed
That ship was built just up the road from where I live on Teeside in the northeast of England. She sailed with her first cargo from Teeside to Canada, it was said that she received many strange looks when on sea trials because of her configuration of pilot house forward as you only saw welldeckers in the North Sea in those days. Rest in peace old lass.
My dive instructor back in '78 was an ex Navy Seal and salvage diver. He showed us film footage he'd taken on a reck dive in Lake Superior but I don't recall the name of the ship. His footage showed a body in what he said was the engine room but the body had on overalls. I'm guessing it was this ship.
Corpses at 2:00 and 7:06. Human bodies under frigid waters do not decay as on land, the body fat turns into a white wax-like substance called adipocere (reaction with anaerobic bacteria). So the white figure you see at 2:00 is a corpse face down and at 7:06 there is another corpse (the white thing) behind the "disks".
@@sheethaldeekshith7074 Not at this point we wouldn't be able to see that much detail, just like when you leave a bar a soap in water for too long. You have the shape but all else is a mess.
My brother-in-laws dive buddy, Ken E, researched this wreck for years before he found the Kamloops in and my bro in law Dean was technical dive support for the initial discovery dive along with other divers needed at the lengthy decompress stops. Ken E was interviewed about his discovery on am radio WCCO shortly afterwards. Another diver friend of mine Ken H dove the Kamloops in the late 70s for a full color article featured in the Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper. I became certified at age 15 and spent the entire summer of '77 diving the south Florida gulf & the keys. Spoiled by the warm waters so early in my diving didn't stop me from my own Great Lakes wreck diving but I had little interest in those 200 ft dives mostly because of limited bottom time but also this was before mixed gas diving was popular and I didn't want to end up with nitrogen illnesses like so many divers in their old age had gotten. I still dive and wouldn't mind finding my own wreck one day but for now I'll just be happy to find fools gold like fishing lures & poles, anchors, sunglasses and the occasional boat engine at the bottom of Midwestern lakes.
Nice dive! Boat went down in Dec 1927. Apparently broke down heading to (Port Arthur, ON) Thunder Bay and drifted back across in a storm until the anchors fetched up a few hundred feet from the Isle Royale shore. Supposedly a couple of bodies were found on shore later but everyone else went down with the ship when she finally rolled and sank...thought to have rolled due to ice build up on deck and cabins while they worked on the broken down engine. Excellent diving at Isle Royale! Please respect the wrecks and remains!
Amazing that the cardboard Lifesavers boxes have faired so well and poor Whitey not so well.. This is incredible footage, thank you so much for sharing. The decomp must have been a bear.
This ship has always fascinated me, ever since I read about it in the Nevada Barr novel, while visiting family for Christmas in Michigan. I was only aware of one body, Whitey, that was still in the ship. Was that white mass, around 5.55, in the forward hold another one?
I too learned about it on her novel! I live in Ashland, wi, and am from Jackson, ms. so a few of her novels reference locations familiar and dear to me. she's SO good!
That very well could be one,I've heard 7are down on board..good catch,I missed that one first time around it appears to have the same look as the engine room body.. perhaps the diver who shot this could add more clarification on it?
The only ones I'm aware of are Whitey and a female (1 of 2. The other is Alice, the last sailor to perish of those who managed to make it to shore) in the helms room
The two most important lessons i learned from this video are: u 1 I can't hold my breath for 9:28 no matter how hard i try cause this video makes me feel like I have to 2 Nothing on earth would make me go down there willingly.
Rob Farrow Wow so that's the legendary Whitey. I wasn't aware of there being more bodies, just him. Creepy! You divers are some of the gutsiest people around. I'd be scared to death to dive on that wreck.
yes that body is the engineer and had his head cut off the scubadiver put him there because that body was following him, i knew that from darkness prevail's scary diving stories.
@@brianrose5492 i wasnt aware of that either. Every story I have heard there was one body in the ship and 9 found on the isle. There were some frozen to death and the ones that werent were half eaten by wolves
Fascinating film of this tragic wreck - were those shoes part of the cargo or, as I suspect in a couple of cases, the remaining effects of their wearers? Poor beggars. RIP Old Whitey and his shipmates.
Amazing footage. It seems so quiet, I'm assuming you are using a rebreather here? Also are you diving alone? Seems pretty risky on a wreck like this! Great visibility though, would love to dive this one day.
Amazing I just found out about this wreck. I love learning about ship wrecks they are interesting yet sad if I had enough money I would get diving lessons so when I get more experienced i could dive to visit this amazing time capsule of course I would be respectful doesn't old Whitey like follow you? If so then it is proof that spirit's exist
Hi, there! We are covering the story of the SS Kamloops for one of our podcast episodes and are looking for someone who has dived the Kamloops to give a short interview about their experience. Would you be interested in coming on the show? Interviews are typically 10 - 30 minutes long and you can promote or shout out any projects you'd like. Thank you for your consideration!
@@vengeance2825 The ship was carrying shoes as cargo and it seems unlikely that any of those shoes were being worn by the crew when it went down. The bodies are preserved at this depth in Lake Superior unlike on the Titanic where you can tell that some shoes were once worn by a body that has since decomposed.
I honestly thought my HDD on my laptop was failing. Then I paused the video, and realized it was just the soundtrack from the video. Only then did I remember I have a SSD in here. Thanks for scaring me.
the only divers allowed down there are all experienced so they probably knew about the story and figured that was him. It looks like he's been logged in there, perhaps by other divers as he's usually known to drift behind the divers' currents.
He’s laying face down. It’s the only white color on the screen at 2:07. His boots are pointing towards 9 o’clock and you can only see up to about his waist area.
2:00 is the body of "Grandpa" or "Old Whitey," nicknames that the divers gave the unknown corpse. It belonged to a crewman who's body never left the vessel, but National Parks and Services made the decision to leave it there because a) the person is a John Doe, so no one ever requested his body to be surfaced b) it would disintegrate if placed in a body bag because it's fragile. c) it's just a torso with some leg stumps, arms and hands. He wasn't alone, tho. A diver died in a tragic accident on the Kamloops. Not sure if they recovered the body tho. But, Grandpa is a good spirit. Divers reported the body floating and following them, but never attacking or trying to make contact. He's just enjoying the company he has with the divers. Some even reported to have shaked hands with him. He doesn't leave the wreck, tho. It's just his home where he welcomes the divers who visit. Pretty cool stuff, but the Park Rangers only let highly experienced and respectful divers to visit because of the stories about Grandpa.
@@stayfrosty6290 That's really quite beautiful. He's like the guardian of both the living and the dead who visit the SS Kamloops. I'm not religious, but I still love that idea. Make you have hope for some peace after this life.
YES, however it's NOT just one body down in that ship; there's many bodies. The bottom of this lake is the same exact temp we morticians cold store bodies, so the bacteria in our bodies that devour us when we die doesn't occur; and since that doesn't occur the body will not rise to the surface at all, it will remain under water and if it's in a wreck it will remain under the water in the wreck perfectly preserved. However, in warm waters our bodies will eventually rise to the surface because the bacteria is able to devour us causing bloating from all the gas build up.
PoserExposer No, but there is crew remains at 2:00. The white mass is a unidentified corpse called 'Old Whitey’ by divers. He’d basically a torso and 2 leg stumps by now, and his body is like soap.
@@drfye Yup. Tastes fine too, just like the candy canes from the S.S. America on the other end of the island. They only lost a little bit of mass, from soaking for all those years in cold fresh water. *S S. America sank in 1928.
just a question you were there if allowed would it be possibel to recover the Bodys without damaging the ship or is Old whitey the on we see in your video the only accesebel?
two reasons they won’t bring him up! the first is a old maritime rule, never risk the living for the dead. second is since it was so long ago no one has claimed it so no one has showed interest in recovering his body.
Very strange lifesavers candy...the gails of november dint care for candy apparently.....strange seeing that cool though of all things it amazing how the cold preserves
Are these the legs or the arms we're seeing at 2:00? I have wasted too much time replaying that part because people in this comment thread have said "he's a torso with legs" or "he has leg stumps and wedding ring on his hands" so I can't tell which.
I think the wedding ring is on another body. While Whitey is the most famous body, from what I’ve heard there are a few bodies on the wreck including a contemporary diver who died in the engine room
Do you know what an evp is? They're voices of people no longer alive. They're everywhere we are, even under the water. I didn't come here for that. I came here to see the wreck but picked up some anyways. Most people can't hear them but some of us still can. The ones I heard are residual, meaning they are from the past and were the actual words spoken. Kind of a loop from the past. There's more than these here but here are some more notable ones. 2:24 "What happened!?" 4:49 "Turn A-ROUND!" 4:52 "I don't know!" 4:54 "For the last time, God help ..." 6:00 "Turn her up!!" yelled
@nickstanton9480 It's like I said, most people can't hear any let alone one or two. But some of us can. It's validating when people do hear them but if they couldn't the audio still doesn't lie. It must be hearing ability plus I use high end headphones and speakers with the volume cranked all the way up. There can never be any background noise distractions at my house when listening too.
@@Pro-Deo I heard things that you could misinterpret as distant, vague voices and language, but that isn’t EVP. That’s your brain trying to make sense of the background noise. I did hear what you misinterpreted as language, but there were no human voices.
@@technologicallyilliterate Well then it's settled. I know where you stand on this. So does anyone else who reads our comments and replies. Meaning you are right in your own mind as much as I'm right in my mind too. Am I upset by this or even you? Nah, it's all good🕊
I heard that dead bodies will mix with the soil. But the body is in shipwreck,so it is mixed with the water,crocodiles will eat the body. I am not understanding how body is present on the shipwreck.
I don’t understand people this idea about “respect”. I was shown images of dead concentration camp victims or some grisly civil war casualties in school and no one was on a soap box complaining about respect. It’s just a corpse and just pictures. Now if people are rifling through the pockets (unless in wartime) I’d have a problem with a respect issue. I have more of an issue with the lifeboat being shown.
It's more respect his corpse and leave it alone than anything else. His name stems from literally nobody knowing who he was, and his origins as a ghost story before a diver realized it was his mummified dead body. He used to follow people around down there due to the currents people made pulling him along with them, so somebody stuck him in a corner where he wouldn't cause somebody to freak the hell out and drown or destroy his corpse. Some jackass apparently knocked his head off while trying to stick a stetson on his head.
It's what I've heard. It's fact as far as I know, some disrespectful asshole went "LOL imma put a cowboy hat on this dead guys head and take a picture of it!"
Bob The Builder I couldn’t care less. You’re dead! To tell the truth I didn’t even notice it until someone pointed out the time. Pictures of dead are taken all the time. How about autopsy photos or crime scenes? Do you think it’s respectful having king tuts corpse under glass and displayed? And it’s no different just because he’s thousands of years old. If the other guy is asking for better shots so what? He just curious
Lifesavers candy the most unfortunately named candies to be found among a shipwreck.
lol
Yeah lol
@@SeñorrTaco what?
Hate to paugh but yeah haha
ive had the honor of diving kamloops, what an adventure and thanks for the upload this footage is incredible...lots of lore surrounds this wreck.....shes on her starboard side and is 200 ft down.....tec dive for me and it was soooo cold and scary......saw two bodies during my dive to her stern and there are more trapped in the bow end..one is in the engine room and one is one of the 2 women stewardess lost at sea(the other womans body was found w a few other sailors frozen marooned on an tiny little island not far from the sinking months later)...there is a memorial headstone ive seen pictures of commemorated to the crew on the island....whiteys body is in this video thats the white mass at 2:00 you see in the engine room tangled in the catwalk...gives me chills seeing this footage.....my instructor said the body is like soap and if you look close his wedding ring is still on his hand but i kept my distance...his desk chair is floating behind him up on the upper level of the engine room...lot of treasure divers have been down there messing with him and some of the wreckage has literaly been chained down by the nps to keep people from stealing souveniers....when you first descend the line attached to her stern you are right near the engine room and its the easiest place to enter the wreckage....so ya see him right away and get the tragic impact.....it is a gravesite afterall however a time capsule to be explored.....cool footage of the lifesavers.....tons of em down there....candys disolved but the rolls are still intact as they were in 1927......florshiem shoes,wheelbarrows,chicken fence and disc brake are all down there still in the cargo holds....so enlightening thanks again
+itsthe guero i would take his wedding ring, and return it to his family. rather than leave it down there at the mercy of treasure hunters
cyberash3000 I wouldn't touch him for 1000 bucks
Learn to use paragraphs fuckface.
My theory do to the. Ship rocking some crew evacuated and the ship took a nose dive landed and slid down the slope to it's current position
@@cyberash3000 I've read some ghoul already swiped it. I'd leave it on his hand,as his last thoughts were likely his beloved who he was trying to get home to....
The thing about Old Whitey that scares me is that you look at this guy looking like some statue of play-dough and then you realize something haunting: You realize that Old Whitey is an actual dead body that has been floating around since 1927 and you not only feel awful looking at it, you feel awful for what this poor lad went through ❤️
Yes it is sad that he met this fate but he is perfectly preserved in that substance and will last longer then most of us in perfect condition
The people who dive there have made reports of a ghost they have named grandpa and they claim that old whitey was his body which he still inhabits
Too bad he could not be removed and give him a Christian burial i hope and pray he is at rest his name only known to god. ❤
So....if they know who it is. Why doesn't the coast guard bring him to the surface. And give him a proper burial?
@@joen3992its not as easy
excellent photography. I read a book by Jacque Costeau years ago. He was diving during the war on a german vessel and felt something touch his back. He turned round and it was a german in uniform, who was being pulled along with Jacques current. He was shocked !
I would pass clean out; Amazing mental picture.
Going in your pants at that point is a sure as s... !
About that time there would be a 20 pounder in my shorts
When your down there your prepared for that possibility if uou know it could happen
I’ve read stories where Old Whitey would or has done that to divers in the ‘loops.
This came up in my mentions, but who else remembers this wreck from Ask a Mortician video?
I saw that also... I'm not sure but I think that white mass at 2:14 is a body... as told in one of her vids
T Wrecks yes at 1:50 you can see the white body
I came to get a better look at the body. Fascinating
Yo yo yo I’m a deathling
Can pointing out bodies get a video taken down?
2:02 that be old Whitey. A body thats been on the ship since it went down. Nobody really knows whose body it is but its said that it will follow divers around. Remains preserved and intact due to the cold water and lack of life on the lake bed
Sucks he can’t be determined but he is remembered at least
Where?
@@bonnyrose14 the white object behind the grating is his preserved body
It's one of the engineers. The body is held up by a chair and stays in place.
Just thinking of him walking onto that ship, only to remain there till the end of time...chills
That ship was built just up the road from where I live on Teeside in the northeast of England.
She sailed with her first cargo from Teeside to Canada, it was said that she received many strange looks when on sea trials because of her configuration of pilot house forward as you only saw welldeckers in the North Sea in those days.
Rest in peace old lass.
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My dive instructor back in '78 was an ex Navy Seal and salvage diver. He showed us film footage he'd taken on a reck dive in Lake Superior but I don't recall the name of the ship. His footage showed a body in what he said was the engine room but the body had on overalls. I'm guessing it was this ship.
Correct. This body in the video is referred to as Old Whitey and the body you're referring to is known as Grandpa
Corpses at 2:00 and 7:06. Human bodies under frigid waters do not decay as on land, the body fat turns into a white wax-like substance called adipocere (reaction with anaerobic bacteria). So the white figure you see at 2:00 is a corpse face down and at 7:06 there is another corpse (the white thing) behind the "disks".
I’m afraid to ask what body part I’m looking at. Is that just a human head?
Does the corpse at 2.00 have a face?
@@andrewflynn2500 I don't know which one you are referring to but when I saw it it was the whole body, one of them was the upper half.
@@sheethaldeekshith7074 Not at this point we wouldn't be able to see that much detail, just like when you leave a bar a soap in water for too long. You have the shape but all else is a mess.
@@tsunami770 thank u for replying.
I feel sorry for that poor guy left to be like that for about a century
Great footage, use to dive this wreck back in the mid 1990's, Glad see stuff is being left alone.
Thanks for leaving it alone, my man.
I touched that stern wheel in 2010... A peak experience!
Thanks for that... btw ur cool
My brother-in-laws dive buddy, Ken E, researched this wreck for years before he found the Kamloops in and my bro in law Dean was technical dive support for the initial discovery dive along with other divers needed at the lengthy decompress stops. Ken E was interviewed about his discovery on am radio WCCO shortly afterwards. Another diver friend of mine Ken H dove the Kamloops in the late 70s for a full color article featured in the Minneapolis Star Tribune newspaper. I became certified at age 15 and spent the entire summer of '77 diving the south Florida gulf & the keys. Spoiled by the warm waters so early in my diving didn't stop me from my own Great Lakes wreck diving but I had little interest in those 200 ft dives mostly because of limited bottom time but also this was before mixed gas diving was popular and I didn't want to end up with nitrogen illnesses like so many divers in their old age had gotten. I still dive and wouldn't mind finding my own wreck one day but for now I'll just be happy to find fools gold like fishing lures & poles, anchors, sunglasses and the occasional boat engine at the bottom of Midwestern lakes.
this shivers me timbers
Nice dive! Boat went down in Dec 1927. Apparently broke down heading to (Port Arthur, ON) Thunder Bay and drifted back across in a storm until the anchors fetched up a few hundred feet from the Isle Royale shore. Supposedly a couple of bodies were found on shore later but everyone else went down with the ship when she finally rolled and sank...thought to have rolled due to ice build up on deck and cabins while they worked on the broken down engine. Excellent diving at Isle Royale! Please respect the wrecks and remains!
Amazing that the cardboard Lifesavers boxes have faired so well and poor Whitey not so well.. This is incredible footage, thank you so much for sharing. The decomp must have been a bear.
He's actually really well preserved. The white stuff is called adipocere.
The fact that Old Whitey has been there nearly 100 years is incredible. He is remarkably well preserved compared to most 100 year old corpses.
This ship has always fascinated me, ever since I read about it in the Nevada Barr novel, while visiting family for Christmas in Michigan.
I was only aware of one body, Whitey, that was still in the ship. Was that white mass, around 5.55, in the forward hold another one?
I too learned about it on her novel! I live in Ashland, wi, and am from Jackson, ms. so a few of her novels reference locations familiar and dear to me. she's SO good!
Kokopilau77 No you can see it around 2.00
That very well could be one,I've heard 7are down on board..good catch,I missed that one first time around it appears to have the same look as the engine room body.. perhaps the diver who shot this could add more clarification on it?
I’d imagine there are a few in the wheelhouse. Plus apparently there is the body of a modern diver in the engine rooms as well
The only ones I'm aware of are Whitey and a female (1 of 2. The other is Alice, the last sailor to perish of those who managed to make it to shore) in the helms room
The two most important lessons i learned from this video are: u
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I can't hold my breath for 9:28 no matter how hard i try cause this video makes me feel like I have to
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Nothing on earth would make me go down there willingly.
Was that a body on the stairs in engine room?
Yeah, that was a body. When it was found in 1977 there were 7 bodies still on board...not sure if they moved any like they did on the Emperor.
Rob Farrow Wow so that's the legendary Whitey. I wasn't aware of there being more bodies, just him. Creepy! You divers are some of the gutsiest people around. I'd be scared to death to dive on that wreck.
Looks like it, mummified by saponification, the fat has turned into a white waxy substance.
yes that body is the engineer and had his head cut off the scubadiver put him there because that body was following him, i knew that from darkness prevail's scary diving stories.
@@brianrose5492 i wasnt aware of that either. Every story I have heard there was one body in the ship and 9 found on the isle. There were some frozen to death and the ones that werent were half eaten by wolves
God I wish we had a better better look of the entire engine room! I would like to know what the other sides look like!
Fascinating film of this tragic wreck - were those shoes part of the cargo or, as I suspect in a couple of cases, the remaining effects of their wearers? Poor beggars. RIP Old Whitey and his shipmates.
The shoes were part of the cargo
Amazing footage. It seems so quiet, I'm assuming you are using a rebreather here? Also are you diving alone? Seems pretty risky on a wreck like this! Great visibility though, would love to dive this one day.
Astonishing Legends podcast just put out an episode on the Kamloops. I never would of learned of it if it weren't for them.
Same!! Love that podcast
rest in peace Old Whitey, and the rest of the crew. terrible way to go.
*TH-cam recommendations be turning into my history professor*
Amazing I just found out about this wreck. I love learning about ship wrecks they are interesting yet sad if I had enough money I would get diving lessons so when I get more experienced i could dive to visit this amazing time capsule of course I would be respectful doesn't old Whitey like follow you? If so then it is proof that spirit's exist
Haylea Addison hey! you can find out more about this shipwreck in AskAMortician’s latest video
the corpse in the engine room is held up by a chair.
1:03 Copper boilers for washing clothes, stacked up.
All those LifeSavers and it still sank!
Just read about this on Reddit! Thanks for posting!
Great footage! Look forward to someday see this in person!
Those two white things that you see in the engine room at 2:07 is the human remains correct?!Please let me know!?
Correct.
Buz Taco ja
Specifically, the one seen there is the corpse of an unknown crew member nicknamed ‘old whitey’ or ‘grandpa’
sadly yes
Yes that is the captain of the ship been floating since 1927
Hi, there! We are covering the story of the SS Kamloops for one of our podcast episodes and are looking for someone who has dived the Kamloops to give a short interview about their experience. Would you be interested in coming on the show? Interviews are typically 10 - 30 minutes long and you can promote or shout out any projects you'd like. Thank you for your consideration!
Thank you for not heavily filming Old Whitey. Man deserves his privacy
6:53 La dee da, "box of life savers candy"... No mention of the DEAD MAN's SHOE kicked off on top of it. Nightmares. Rip.
More likely part of the manifest than a persons belonging....
The ship was also carrying shoes
@@lokiwiseyt8608 Ship was also carrying people wearing shoes.
@@vengeance2825 The ship was carrying shoes as cargo and it seems unlikely that any of those shoes were being worn by the crew when it went down. The bodies are preserved at this depth in Lake Superior unlike on the Titanic where you can tell that some shoes were once worn by a body that has since decomposed.
The ship was bringing cases of new shoes as part of its cargo that is why you see so many shoes
I honestly thought my HDD on my laptop was failing. Then I paused the video, and realized it was just the soundtrack from the video. Only then did I remember I have a SSD in here. Thanks for scaring me.
What camera, light, and housing are you using? The quality is clear!
Did you know you had gotten footage of one of her crew while filming? Or did you realize it after you finished your dive?
the only divers allowed down there are all experienced so they probably knew about the story and figured that was him. It looks like he's been logged in there, perhaps by other divers as he's usually known to drift behind the divers' currents.
I'm sure he knew about Old Whitey, most who dive the Kamloops know about its long dead sentinel still floating about its final resting place.
That's old Whitey's body at 2:10.
I finally understand why they call it the officers mess LOL
Very good lighting...thanks for sharing great video
Ninja are butterflies, bring you here
You have to be one crazy mother to dive that deep nice footage though thanks for sharing 👍
Rust and barnacles give me the creeps. Never mind viewing an old shipwreck on the bottom of an inland sea!
2:06-2:09 you can make out Old Whitey’s skull behind the grating on the upper right
I'm here for old whitey
Like the sing Lake Superior never give up her dead.
Fantastic video. Thanks so much for sharing.
Amazing footage. Thanks for sharing it.
I must be the only person who can't see any corpses at either timestamps lol
He’s laying face down. It’s the only white color on the screen at 2:07. His boots are pointing towards 9 o’clock and you can only see up to about his waist area.
2:00 that's a human body
Yeah that’s Whitey or grandpa. He was two nicknames. Nobody knows his real name.
I would love to dive down there, but I'm only 12 years old
and I'm really far away from lake superior
Crescent Lake in PNW Washington has some similarly disturbing cases due to the year round temperatures
The water is so clear! 😱
Old whitey at 2:10 ?
I always hear that there is the chief engineer's body trapped down in the engine room, is there really?
That white thing on the stairs in the engine room is it.
Andy Flynn 2:14?
2:00 is the body of "Grandpa" or "Old Whitey," nicknames that the divers gave the unknown corpse. It belonged to a crewman who's body never left the vessel, but National Parks and Services made the decision to leave it there because a) the person is a John Doe, so no one ever requested his body to be surfaced b) it would disintegrate if placed in a body bag because it's fragile. c) it's just a torso with some leg stumps, arms and hands. He wasn't alone, tho. A diver died in a tragic accident on the Kamloops. Not sure if they recovered the body tho. But, Grandpa is a good spirit. Divers reported the body floating and following them, but never attacking or trying to make contact. He's just enjoying the company he has with the divers. Some even reported to have shaked hands with him. He doesn't leave the wreck, tho. It's just his home where he welcomes the divers who visit. Pretty cool stuff, but the Park Rangers only let highly experienced and respectful divers to visit because of the stories about Grandpa.
@@stayfrosty6290 That's really quite beautiful. He's like the guardian of both the living and the dead who visit the SS Kamloops. I'm not religious, but I still love that idea. Make you have hope for some peace after this life.
YES, however it's NOT just one body down in that ship; there's many bodies. The bottom of this lake is the same exact temp we morticians cold store bodies, so the bacteria in our bodies that devour us when we die doesn't occur; and since that doesn't occur the body will not rise to the surface at all, it will remain under water and if it's in a wreck it will remain under the water in the wreck perfectly preserved. However, in warm waters our bodies will eventually rise to the surface because the bacteria is able to devour us causing bloating from all the gas build up.
Apparently old whitey follows the divers around the ship can anyone tell me if this is true or not
Not true at all. The body is held at the spot that it's at by a chair.
DOUG BELL...is that also crew remains at 5:55?
PoserExposer No, but there is crew remains at 2:00. The white mass is a unidentified corpse called 'Old Whitey’ by divers. He’d basically a torso and 2 leg stumps by now, and his body is like soap.
Rival Racer Gaming I mean, we can’t rule out 5:55 being a body too.
It looks like a shiny object to me
Yes it is.snd another @ 7:06
man this is eerie. really fantastic footage.
Creepypodden någon?
I wonder if that candy is still edible? Also did not know life savers candy was around in1929.
Yes it is.
@@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu
🤔Even though its been sitting i water for close to century?
@@drfye Yup. Tastes fine too, just like the candy canes from the S.S. America on the other end of the island. They only lost a little bit of mass, from soaking for all those years in cold fresh water.
*S S. America sank in 1928.
@@Minong_Manitou_Mishepeshu It's dissolved IIRC.
I would of brought up a bundle and opened it up see if any were still good you could get a bundle for one case for ebarf
It has to be so cold down there. Anyone know what the water temp is?
It’s somewhere just above freezing if I’m not wrong
It's almost precisely 0 degrees celsius
just a question you were there if allowed would it be possibel to recover the Bodys without damaging the ship or is Old whitey the on we see in your video the only accesebel?
two reasons they won’t bring him up! the first is a old maritime rule, never risk the living for the dead. second is since it was so long ago no one has claimed it so no one has showed interest in recovering his body.
@@averyvogt and this was an answere to a question nobody asked
@@averyvogt I'm getting into museum work and scuba at the same time. I might see about writing a grant to recover the body(s?) from the wreck someday.
@@gunnarthefeisty I have mixed feelings this. Bring up artifacts yes but bodies no its like disturbing their graves
@@madmanmechanic8847 They should be given proper burials
Very strange lifesavers candy...the gails of november dint care for candy apparently.....strange seeing that cool though of all things it amazing how the cold preserves
whos here looking for old whitey
Is that the crew dead body face at 2:08
No, that's old whitey's legs and torso. Pretty sure his head has been long gone.
@@machinegoat2280pretty sure you can just make out the skull by the 2-3 grate bars from the top
If somebody lose a book there It can be readable??
Anyone else see what looked like a face in the engine room? When they first went in.
Nice video Doug!
What flavor lifesavers? I like cherry.
Are these the legs or the arms we're seeing at 2:00? I have wasted too much time replaying that part because people in this comment thread have said "he's a torso with legs" or "he has leg stumps and wedding ring on his hands" so I can't tell which.
QueenWeirdo that’s old whitey he’s unidentified. Those are his leg stumps.
@@mrazoz5538 It's hard to tell because of the ends pointing down. Guess that means his lower legs, head, and arms are floating around somewhere 😱
I think the wedding ring is on another body. While Whitey is the most famous body, from what I’ve heard there are a few bodies on the wreck including a contemporary diver who died in the engine room
Are there any bodies in this video? I was too lazy to watch the entire thing.
2:00 the white thing
7:06 too
A bit up
Ah old whitey/grandpa on guard still better not mess about or he gonna get ya and make you clean his ship😂
Amazing footage
Not enough money in the world.
Am I the only one here from a scary video
no but you are the only one who has posted a comment 2 hours ago and yet already received 5 likes since, making this the top comment
no but you are the only who has posted a comment 2 hours ago
is English ur first language mate?
Matt Galaxy No
no
No. Am I the only one who was disappointed they didn't show the dead body from the story :P?
2:07 that body called “old whitey” is terrifying why do people do these things like dive
Haunting and heartbreaking
Ninjas are butterflies sent me here
Old Whitey, the most famous underwater corpse in a dark claustrophobic environment. 🤣🤣🤣
Them disks are farm equipment
you can ring Doug's belllllllll
ring Doug's bell
Doug's bell
Goddamn lifesaver candies were apparently shirking their duties…..
Ninjas are butterflies
Does anyone know of any other sunken ships with preserved bodies like this?
Probably the Edmund Fitzgerald. It sank in November 1975. It sank in Whitefish bay in Superior.
Most Great Lakes wrecks will probably have a body or two inside.
Pretty much any wreck in the Great Lakes will be similar
The Emperor had bodies but they were removed.
@@amazingturtle5075 No, most don't.
Ol' Whitey, still on the job . . .
Was head or his legs?
Legs and torso. All that's left at this point
is that a torso at 8:07?
No, but the white mass at 2:00 is a body known as "Old Whitey"
@@VirreFriberg what about the stuff behind those disk thingies?
@@nateh145thats a body
Why won’t anyone show “the ghost?
you see the dead body in this video in engine room
bet that water was cold my boi
Yep thats a dead guy in the engine room, crazy how their still there aint it!!
Who else lives in kamloops and got really confused
Do you know what an evp is? They're voices of people no longer alive. They're everywhere we are, even under the water. I didn't come here for that. I came here to see the wreck but picked up some anyways. Most people can't hear them but some of us still can. The ones I heard are residual, meaning they are from the past and were the actual words spoken. Kind of a loop from the past. There's more than these here but here are some more notable ones.
2:24 "What happened!?"
4:49 "Turn A-ROUND!"
4:52 "I don't know!"
4:54 "For the last time, God help ..."
6:00 "Turn her up!!" yelled
What
I checked all of the time stamps you posted, heard nothing.
@nickstanton9480 It's like I said, most people can't hear any let alone one or two. But some of us can. It's validating when people do hear them but if they couldn't the audio still doesn't lie. It must be hearing ability plus I use high end headphones and speakers with the volume cranked all the way up. There can never be any background noise distractions at my house when listening too.
@@Pro-Deo I heard things that you could misinterpret as distant, vague voices and language, but that isn’t EVP. That’s your brain trying to make sense of the background noise. I did hear what you misinterpreted as language, but there were no human voices.
@@technologicallyilliterate Well then it's settled. I know where you stand on this. So does anyone else who reads our comments and replies. Meaning you are right in your own mind as much as I'm right in my mind too. Am I upset by this or even you? Nah, it's all good🕊
Lol Lifesavers
I heard that dead bodies will mix with the soil.
But the body is in shipwreck,so it is mixed with the water,crocodiles will eat the body.
I am not understanding how body is present on the shipwreck.
Crocodiles are found in freshwater and saltwater however there are no crocs in Lake Superior as it's too cold.
Too deep for crocodiles, and crocodiles don’t live in Lake Superior.
This dude really thought there are crocodiles in Lake Superior. 😂
Crocs are only found in warm water. Lake Superior's bottom is the same temperature as a freezer
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 Lago is not warm all the way down?
#Sundaycooltees
I don’t understand people this idea about “respect”. I was shown images of dead concentration camp victims or some grisly civil war casualties in school and no one was on a soap box complaining about respect. It’s just a corpse and just pictures. Now if people are rifling through the pockets (unless in wartime) I’d have a problem with a respect issue.
I have more of an issue with the lifeboat being shown.
Mr102405 wait, why the lifeboat?
where spunchbop
You can ring dougs bell
Ring dougs bell
Dougs bell
Ring dougs bell
And calling him Grandpa or Old Whitey. Yeah ok respect is just pouring out of that
It's more respect his corpse and leave it alone than anything else. His name stems from literally nobody knowing who he was, and his origins as a ghost story before a diver realized it was his mummified dead body. He used to follow people around down there due to the currents people made pulling him along with them, so somebody stuck him in a corner where he wouldn't cause somebody to freak the hell out and drown or destroy his corpse.
Some jackass apparently knocked his head off while trying to stick a stetson on his head.
Mr. Trox am I being a sucker or did someone seriously try putting a Stetson on his head?
It isn’t hard to believe someone would try that?
It's what I've heard. It's fact as far as I know, some disrespectful asshole went "LOL imma put a cowboy hat on this dead guys head and take a picture of it!"
Mr. Trox it must be bullshit unless he puts his cellphone in a plastic bag or has an underwater camera
@@Mr102405 A lot of divers have underwater cameras, they're not exactly rare.
So that is like.his legs or something?if you are gonna videotape corpses atleast try and get good shots.
Luzur show some respect dude seriously what the hell
Will you like it when you die if there is footage of your body someone says try to get some good shots?
Bob The Builder I couldn’t care less. You’re dead! To tell the truth I didn’t even notice it until someone pointed out the time. Pictures of dead are taken all the time. How about autopsy photos or crime scenes? Do you think it’s respectful having king tuts corpse under glass and displayed? And it’s no different just because he’s thousands of years old. If the other guy is asking for better shots so what? He just curious
Mr102405 you right
It’s his legs, but there isn’t much of him left, which makes sense considering he’s been there since 1927