Rick Rubin on uncovering Beatles secrets with Paul McCartney: "It was spine-chilling" (interview)
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- Ahead of the publication of his book 'The Creative Act: A Way of Being', influential US record producer Rick Rubin recounts the experience of filming a six-part documentary series with Paul McCartney in 2021, titled 'McCartney 3,2,1'. Interview by Andrew McMillen, national music writer at The Australian.
To read more about Rick Rubin and the story behind 'The Creative Act', click here to read The Weekend Australian Review's cover story, published January 14, 2023 (~16 minute read):
www.theaustralian.com.au/arts...
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Hey, I’m the journalist interviewing Rick in this video. Thank you all for your kind comments. A quick note to those asking about the "Neil" that Rick mentions at 4min30sec: he’s talking about Neil Young. We had spoken about Neil earlier, and this video snippet you’re watching arrived around 60 minutes into a 90 minute interview.
BTW, Neil said this in a recent interview with The New Yorker: “Rick is a genius. You’re not gonna find a person who loves music more than Rick.” High praise from a great artist!
Watched a video on TH-cam with Neil Young and Rick Rubin recently, very interesting… I think it was sitting outside at Neils place, maybe with Zane Lowe I think….
Aaah! Not Niel "Sweet Caroline" Diamond.
I had a feeling it was Neil Young. Thanks for the interview
Great interview man! You really engaged him to share. We all benefit.
Thank you for that interview!
What a great man Mr. Rubin is. Humble, Curious, intelligent, good musical taste. Thank you very much for 3 2 1 serie, Rick Rubin!
You were blessed to share that time with Paul. I liked what Paul said when he observed, " Back then, I was writing with John. Now, I realize I was writing with JOHN LENNON. "
he was indeed blessed BUT he incredibly made the most of it in a way that perhaps only Rubin could. it takes a genius to get the best from a genius.
Man I had that same feeling when I saw McCartney in concert. Couldn’t believe I was in the same building as him.
Get real. He’s a good musician but not a god. Disgusting tot rest him as such and gush over him. What are you 5?
@@DaPoopIsInDaPudding I have a fairly expansive idea of religion and don’t think it’s an exaggeration to put great musicians into that category if I’m being honest. They are tapped into a mystical realm that has transformed my spirit as much as any concept of god has. I also do bring a sense of childlike wonder into music appreciation so yeah I feel like I’m five when it comes to this stuff. I enjoyed this comment - I know you’re being mean but it kind of highlights exactly how I feel about the music I love. Peace & Love goofballs wear masks.
Mr. Rubin, your series with Paul McCartney meant the world to me. I have been an ardent Beatles fan since 1964 and you opened up the songs for me. Thank you, Sir.
Not just the songs - but the process of creating a song. After watching Paul explain to Rick about how he came up with piano stuff, I sat down at my piano and messed with basic chords, changing the bass notes the way he did until I came up with something original I really liked. Most of Paul's piano songs are pretty easy to figure out and play. Live and Let Die is a good example (with Long and Winding Road being the notable exception - it's like nothing he's ever done before or since) Watching Paul explain the process only inspires others (like me) to do the same.
@@aquamarine99911 Springsteen is another good piano composer, he said he composed all of the Born To Run Album on a piano. That's one of the greatest albums ever made.
Joe, where can Rick Rubins Paul McCartney Series be found? Can it be found on TH-cam?
@@mrfester42 It was on Hulu. You can find snippets on TH-cam and online. Enjoy!
@@VortekStarling Born to Run is in my Top Ten albums of all time.
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I have watched ‘McCartney 3-2-1’ at least a dozen times. It’s so special ❤ And I saw Paul live for the first time last summer and cried the whole time, too. Glad I’m not alone in that lol
Das wäre mir auch so gegangen. 😭lg von Ellen ✌❤
I'm in my late 60s. I saw PM live about 6 yrs ago and it took everything I had to keep from losing it when he walked out on that stage.That whole evening was overwhelming and unbelievable.
@@3-ddjr460 oh this is a great Story and this is speziell for every real beatles Fan. When he was, the last time ,in Germany I can't go to him..lg Ellen ✌❤
@@3-ddjr460 💙 So surreal.
I saw the Beatles live in '66. I can relate to how Rick felt we he saw McCartney live. I was awestruck. The highlight of my life all thanks to my mom giving me her ticket so I could go. ❤❤
Paul is the greatest artist of all time.
He always said he had 'art' in his last name ! .... as in McCARTney ....
“Something” is the song that made me want to play bass
McCartney 3,2,1 was an eye opener; couldn't get enough.
I've seen Paul live twice, 15 years apart - the first time (1989) I was in that overwhelmed mode, "he and I (and 40,000 others) are in the same place at the same time" . . . like seeing a unicorn... the second time (2005), it was more, "how cool is it to be here with 40,000 other folks sharing the energy and singing along with THE MAN to songs that we've all loved our whole lives?" . . . . young, old, all types of people from all walks of life, sharing the love and music. Great shows both times, but what a great vibe to experience!
Lucky to be alive at the same time as The Beatles and Paul McCartney.
I saw Paul just once in '76 at a Wings Over America concert in St. Paul. I have a friend older than me who once was "forced" to chaperone her little sister to a Beatles' concert in Chicago. Wow! If she only knew then that she would be among the small number overall who got to see The Beatles perform together live.
What I loved most about the series was the chance to see the real Paul. Not the legend answering the same question for the 10,000th time.
Same.
No doubt the Beatles are very special. They're still on top , no band or single artist has outsold them yet and there is good reason for that. At this point it's legendary so it almost doesn't seem real that Paul is still around to tell us how it all happened. What a blessing!
A writer once said of the Beatles: "They are on top and couldn't get down from the top even if they tried. They remain Fab."
Slim Whitman out sold them. LOL. 😅
@@ksharpe10 In 1967, the Monkees outsold both the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.
@Duolingo Owl Yes, but you can't compare artists who stand so many years apart. Bands of almost 60 years ago didn't have the same kind of technology, like easy downloads, if you're including that as sales.
Peter greens Fleetwood Mac was sellin more records then Beatles and stones combined in 1969… also I think the eagles may have in the 80s
Rick is a true treasure in the industry. His positivity is palpable and his method totally brings out the best in the musicians we love.
There was a sense of honor and privilege just being able to watch it. It was truly wonderful.
Rick who is brilliant handled everything so thoughtfully.
This was so special to see.
I am so glad we have this... forever
Great interview! Rick, your infectious joy talking about Paul McCartney and the Beatles is palpable. They ARE the Mountain Top for sure! So GRATEFUL for their lyrics and music! Thank you for pouring your heart into making music and into your relationship with artists such as Paul. My 14-year-old son and I saw Paul McCartney in concert right after my dad died in May 2022. Hearing and watching Paul McCartney play LIVE in concert was truly a dream come true. When he played, “Let It Be” it was so healing for me in my relationship with my dad. I know people understand how healing music can be. Paul is still AMAZING!!! We love Paul and the Beatles as well and I cannot wait to hear your interview with Paul. I had no idea it even existed. 👍🏼 Paul McCartney is special indeed! “Let It Be.” 🎶 ❤
Thank you. Let It Be has brought me so much peace & relief over five decades!
Whenever I'm stressed I play it in my head - brings serenity.
I'm not huge into celebrity culture, but I will weep like a baby the day Paul McCartney leaves the movie.
Yah, me too. That will be a day.
It will be a very sad when this happens, lets hope it's not for a long time yet.
I have wailed at that thought many times. There will truly be a hole in the world.
the irony of ringo being the last living beatle,
The day Macca leaves this world..is the day this world will under go a Major... Major... Major...Change..
Watch and see.....Paul is a ANGEL walking this earth.....
A genuinely nice man with enormous talent whom Paul would have recognized as such. It's a great series and so glad it's available to the world.
I was able to see Paul McCartney in concert in 1993. Two and one half hours of legendary singing by MACCA and I was there!!! 😊 ❤
That is the tour I saw in New Orleans, LA. I cried the whole show
Yup.......killer.
Rick is such a beautiful human being. Great interview!
Did not know that Rick Rubin is such a big Beatles fan, very sympathetic! I also enjoyed his series and would not have thought before that you actually learn again new and amazing about the creative process of the Beatles.
Paul actually has listened back to the tapes over the years, whether it was for the Cirque, Rock Band, Anthology or his songwriting book, but only Mark Lewisohn and Giles Martin actually have listened to every single session that was ever recorded.
I was blown away by that series.
Great to see him Smile!
I saw The Beatles in black and white in '64. Thanks for bringing that experience full circle in the same format.
The only problem with that 6 part series with Paul is that it wasn’t much much longer!❤
I have to agree with Lorne Michael’s take on Paul. “He is our Mozart of our time.”
Just no.
Thank you Rick for expressing the sentiment I believe many of us feel. I feel so lucky to be alive during the Beatles era (that started in the early 60's). Love your work Rick thank you for that as well.
Many of us are so grateful for your amazing interview with Paul. I’ve been playing guitar since 1964 because I saw them play guitar on Sullivan. I thought I knew everything about The Beatles, but Paul opened up a whole new understanding of how he (and they) wrote those brilliant classics that will live on in music history forever.
love this interview, Paul is a god and will be a sadder world when he's not here. may he live until 200
Jesus is GOD
@@patcola7335god also said don’t push your religion on to others
@@cocoaman1564 He commanded us to share the gospel and take it into all the world. If you don't like it, you're free not to listen ? Nobody's going to force you.
Great interview!! Thanks so much
As a lifelong Beatles fan, I’d like to see more about Rick Rubin. The 60 Minutes interview wetted my appetite. Please feature Rick in a vid.
There was a cool series about him on showtime called Shangri-La
I get the same feelings when listening to the Beatles, I get emotional beyond words. This recent Christmas I received a message, purportedly from Paul on TH-cam, I couldn’t believe it was really Paul so I didn’t know what to say! I was astonished, breathless, for days.
I'm not jealous at all, who said I was jealous, there's no reason to be jealous, being jealous just isn't me....
I see what you’re saying. Sometimes I don’t see the real Paul either.
walter briggs Tell us more, please!
I think that if I went to a Paul McCartney concert it would actually kill me, he's that incredible.
Really loved McCartney 321 great stuff
Great interview here too!! I’m so glad that series came out so more people like you can take it further. Thank you!
Having seen The Beatles live twice in Belfast and followed everything about them since, I could never see Paul McCartney as an ordinary person. How is it possible for one man to have this much talent without exploding? I’m 75 years old and still every day I find him more amazing. As for John Lennon …….
Will that documentary ever come out on Blu-ray? 🙏
I havent looked, but I can guarantee theres many in this comment section telling you how great you are an interviewer! Its undeniable!
Damn Rick, Neil and Paul - you're rocking my senior years beyond belief. Thanks.
i pray an album of macca produced by rick rubin ........... he did some masterpiece with johnny cash
I am soooo hugely, galactically, universally jealous of Rubin's experience. I have wanted to meet Paul all my life, my hero - but at least I got to see Mr. Rubin have the experience I wish to have.
Love it.
Great series! I really enjoyed Paul's piano lesson segment. I also got a great kick out of the part when they're listening to Another Girl and Rick asks Paul if that's him playing lead guitar. And Paul says "I'm not sure. It could have been. Sounds bad enough for it to be me." Hilarious!
I was at Neil Young's gig in London around fifteen years ago at Hyde Park and Paul McCartney just walked out and started singing the 'woke up, got out of bed' part in A Day in the Life. Don't think anything has beaten that as a surprise moment. And exactly what Rick describes - that this is a human being in front of me who wrote and sang these lines all those years ago. At a McCartney concert, of course you're expecting it and it's overwhelming but surprise Macca on that evening was mind-bending. It's on youtube somewhere ..
It was a great series, and Rick Rubin is amazing, be great to see him do more like that
I agree with him so much ❤
Rick Rubin is a gift to the world. Excellent job from the interviewer also. Intelligent, insightful line of questioning.
Great questions and interview from Andrew
Many thanks, Eric
He really walks the planet. Very well put.
I'm with you 100%
I saw Paul play live for the first time in Seattle WA 2022. Someone gave me a free ticket and when he played Blackbird I was changed from the inside out. I cried and felt so much gratitude for life and it's really hard to put into words what happened to me. Paul is God's gift to the earth.
I agree Paul stood next to me for a moment in nyc and when turned and realized it was him I screamed like a little beatlemaniac fan
I have just watched it a couple of days ago. I was fascinated by it. It shows Paul is indeed Mr. Music. He not only talks about the songs, he does all the sound also with his voice, he pretends he playing all instruments...Gosh, it is unbilievable. He breaths music. And Rubin was perfect there, asking the right questions, saying what he had to say... i really love this series. It was nominated for an Emmy because it deserved to be. It lots for....Get Back! :) Well, I can understand.
Love love love
I used to think Rick Rubin was this super mysterious guy, full of pretense, arrogance, etc. And that's with never hearing him speak, or knowing anything about his character. I'm now embarrassed to say how wrong I was. He is the coolest, most down-to-earth, humble and talented guy. I hang on his every word.
Great interview!
Thanks Richard!
It's amazing. We beatles fans and music lovers become Rubin , and it feels like being in the room with Paul. This and Get Back are absolute treasures.
" loom large in his legend" is a line from A hard day's night
Agreed Rick, about being a fan as audience and creator. I know that feeling and to me that's what separated The Beatles from most bands. Great episode and thanks Andrew and The Australian for sharing this!
Thank you for the kind comment, René!
I recently watched a video of a beautiful break down of the bass line in “Something “. It was jaw dropping to realize what a difference it gave that song. So my ears perked up hearing Rick say that bass line acted like an entire orchestra 😮
I feel so lucky to have seen the series. Simply amazing.
i love that smile
This series deserves an award
Who gives a shit about an award. Why would you care. Someone always has to pop off with this deserves a Grammy etc. it’s all a bunch of meaningless BS
This should be released on Blu-ray it’s a total keeper!
Something about Paul’s sense of time live that I found special, he’s so precise with it and I’ve never noticed it with anyone else live.
i need a second part!!!!
Great insights, I'm going to have to watch that series again.
This interview is everything! ❤
I wasn't 4 when the Beatles hit Ed Sullivan. I still remember it, somewhat. They've been my favourite band since then. No one has come close.
It was the best interview ever!🇬🇧
I had a similar experience seeing Paul live. "We're just so lucky to be here right now."
Paul McCartney is king of kings, lord of lords and the god of gods in the world of music. His music will outlive humanity.
Alright I might have to watch this documentary. I had a similar feeling when I saw Paul, long hair at Madison Square, in 89. For my whole life up until then the closest I ever got to the Beatles was a record on a turntable.
It’s truly fascinating that a music producer that was known for a particular genre is so talented he can get such incredible results from a variety of amazing artists. All his subsequent work with artists like Johnny Cash, Neil Young etc have helped them create wonderful albums. Rick has helped pull more from these very established artists than it almost seems they had before.
It was amazing!!!!
I sat and watched the entire thing in one go, I was a teenager in the 1960s, the Beatles made it into a world of colour. People have no idea of what it was like when a new record came out it was exciting, especially an album. I remember very clearly listening to Sgt. Peppers for the first time, NOBODY had made such a record. Of course the whole scene was exciting, see Michael Caine's movie My Generation, he tells the story of that time.
Fantastic! Many thanks to Rick for this.
it was so inspirational
I loved this interview and even though Im not a professional I can relate to the strong feelings you have creating music,,there is nothing like it😊
Must have been amazing to meet Billy
Thank You Mr.John Lennon for picking Paul McCartney to be your partner in music!
B-E-A-T-L-E-S The Beatles Make The Very Best MUSIC!
I would have never guessed you were a Beatles fan. I discovered your work with Johnny Cash. Thanks for your contributions.
Maybe there'll be an extended cut of 3,2,1 sometime? Would love to see all 9 hours.
Found it and WOW!!!!!! Mind blowing.....
This is amazing!
Watched it and will surely watch it again. Such an intimate, relaxed, epic account of a man who, along with the other Beatles, is surely the pinnacle of what we can only categorise as 'popular music', because nothing else comes close for its unrivalled influence during the 20th century.
Oh, by the way, I was there in 1964 when The Beatles played Sydney Australia. Just thought I should drop that into the story. :-)
I couldn’t be farther from the world of music yet I know and feel exactly as Rick described it.
Can’t wait to see the interview series about this interview with the Australian
I enjoyed the series very much and there were a couple of new stories that i hadn't heard before which came out of it.
I agree. As I watched the film. Paul did genuinely seem happy to go over the recordings.
A piece of world history.
Fantastic series... Great insights into Sir Paul's genius
Thanks for this.
I loved 'McCartney 3-2-1', but I felt that there, as here (when Rick is discussing 'Something') he minimizes George's guitar contributions.
Totally true. Something flows easily as if it’s a simple folk song but it’s really more sophisticated than that. I have to think Paul recognized that and it fired up his healthy competitive instincts, leading to that great bassline. But George’s solo, come on-
Love listening to Rick anytime 😁😁💜💜💜😁😁
Beautiful
I saw Wings in 1976 which was the first major tour by McCartney after leaving The Beatles and when they came on stage and went into Venus and Mars in their opening number which lead into Jets the entire place erupted and it too was spine-chilling.
I also saw them in '76 in St. Paul. A great show of over 2 hours with just Paul & Wings, no other band.
Yep! Saw "Wings Over America" tour in S.F at the Cow palace...When Macca hit the stage
It was like a God had just arrived...Still the Greatest show I have EVER seen!!!! And I've been to at least
800 shows and Seen McCartney 6 times but....."Over America" was the Greatest!!!!! With IMO his best Band!!!
@@newspapertaxis1 , my no. 1 concert of all time too and have been to a bunch of concerts as well. Saw McCartney in 1990 and had second row seats and that was a fab concert too as he was opening up The Beatles songbook and playing Fool on the Hill and the Abby Road medley. Something magical in the air on the 1976 tour for sure.
thank you
Rick, you said, "I couldn't believe that the person who made the music that I've been listening to since I was a child, a tiny child, that THAT person walks the planet. In my world the Beatles are mythology. It's Mount Olympus." (BTW, I saw them on Ed Sullivan as a kid.) I said almost the exact same thing in a comment regarding another video that I saw here on TH-cam to a young person who said something stupid like, the Beatles were one of the best bands ever. Of course, I got angry because they weren't one of the best. They were THE best and others didn't come close. In fact, they were probably the best, the most talented and the most successful musical talent of the 20th century.
Your statement right there says it all in a nutshell. For those who didn't grow up with the Beatles while they were together, THAT is what they just cannot grasp. It's very frustrating trying to convey that to younger people. They'll mention Michael Jackson or older folks will mention Sinatra or whomever but we know it just doesn't compare.
Anyway, I could go on but you get it.
The Beatles really were just SO special. I’m glad I was alive when three of them still were, I missed John by a year 😢
I wasn’t alive when they were together and I get it. They are theeeee best 💙
"Mythology"? "Mount Olympus"?
John Lennon would have addressed that foolish talk quite properly. George Harrison probably would have done the same.
@@57highland You're probably right about that but it was obvious that John, for one, enjoyed that sentiment regarding the Beatles and he sometimes, not so secretly agreed. As for George, like Eric Clapton said in different interviews on a few occasions, "George was very contrary. No matter what you said, he would say the opposite." He gave the distinct impression that George was compelled to be a bit difficult and negative and even argumentative but despite all his nay saying about the difficulties of the Beatles massive fame and adulation he was very happy to enjoy its benefits.
All of that is besides the point though. Saying that it's foolish talk shows that you obviously didn't grow up with them in those days before the internet.. The Beatles were the most successful recording act of the 20th century by many different measures and Lennon & McCartney were the most successful songwriters of the 20th century so for many reasons it's NOT foolish talk at all.
Rick Rubin his a very respected and successful music producer and he's met and worked with many music stars so he knows them as real people yet even at his age and even having met and even spoken face to face and in depth with McCartney he still has that magical feeling of awe.
What is foolish talk is you calling it that because the fact is you just don't "get it". I feel bad for younger people that they never had anything like that.
@@mrfester42 First, I can only wish that I were as young as you assume me to be, and second, if I overstated by calling Mr. Rubin's comments "foolish", you would probably still feel it a challenge to deny that the "mythology" and "Olympus" talk is hyperbole, at least. No doubt, John enjoyed and appreciated the fruits of his work but I think he tired of the attention and the fuss much sooner than did Paul, who, matter of fact, still hasn't tired of it. John was self-critical to the point of denying that he was anything but a flawed human being, and he even dropped off the radar for five years to be a "house husband" and raise his son and in that manner get himself grounded again, which I believe was his wish and his need. And George too was ultimately happier in not being a Beatle than in being one. And, yes, I'm aware of the extent of the Beatles' success, both commercial and critical. I've read all about it and even lived through some of it, though I was pretty young at the time.
And, speaking of the towering (though not Olympian) level of the Beatles' success in the 1960s, I seriously doubt that even the present-day Rick Rubin could have gotten himself within a thousand miles of the 1960s Paul McCartney. Mr. Rubin would have seemed a mere hack beside George Martin.
Yes... Yes... Sir Paul McCartney is a great bassist, and vocalist... The Beatles, Wings... Need I say more...? Much love for them and for everybody that makes good music happen... Love your work Mr. Rick Rubin keep up the good work Sir... ☮🔥
Without a shadow of doubt. The Beatles are the greatest and most influential band of all time.
McCartney 3.2.1 was a great watch.
Lennon and McCartney is like catching lighting in a bottle
It was a fascinating, brilliant film. I wished the interviewer would have asked if we will see more footage down the road from the filming, or a new series of more discussion with more songs....There is certainly enough material to do many, many follow-ups!